D: When I go into the off-world
contacts you can you can identify me as an official in a
European Member State to make it fairly loose when I go into the
K: For me, in terms of your trajectory, can you give me just the
nuts and bolts in how you got from point A to point B to where
you are today in the position you are in? Did you have some
special help to get into those positions that you hold?
D: My country is a small country to get a job, everyone has to
have some help.
K: So was the help coming from any direction, in other words,
associated with the Vatican, Academia etc?
D: No, no. Let’s say local politics but on top of local politics
there was the off-world connection.
K: Did you feel this was a positive off-world connection that
was guiding you, or helping you along, or not?
D: It’s mixed. Now, I was made aware of this off-world
connection and I was asked to do a lot of reading on Helena
Blavatsky. I was instructed to read books like ‘Isis Unveiled’
and ‘The Secret Doctrine’ as well as ‘Alice in Wonderland’ and
‘The Lord of the Rings’ to prepare me.
I was also referred to
the old Egyptian religion and pointedly the ‘Egyptian Book of
the Dead’. I was pointedly told that, typically, eighty years
after the inception
of any religion, it [the religion] starts to
get distorted, usually in a severe fashion, as careerists under
illuminati or parallel agendas.
I went through the material and I was also alerted to certain
situations in the past, certain anomalies, a point in fact being
the high point of the nuclear crisis between the US and Russia
in the early Sixties and, I was given an indication about how
the situation had been resolved through an off-world connection.
If one follows the exchanges between the Kennedy side and the
Russian side one can note that the correspondence appears to be
erratic. The situation was this: Kennedy was hot headed, Jackie
was less so.
off world controllers did was this: a phone
call to the Russian side was faked - simulated with Kennedy’s
voice and that is why the sequence is so erratic and that is why
the Russian reaction was so bizarre.
That is why you see the
Americans answering the first letter from Khrushchev to Kennedy
and not the second angry letter.
K: So, the faked Kennedy voice, was this trying to escalate or
calm down the situation?
D: No, to calm them down... to diffuse.
K: But Kennedy’s real reaction was more aggressive?
P: Yes and akin to that of an arrogant young boy - although
towards the end of his life he changed a bit.
K: What does Jackie have to do with it?
P: Because Jackie was in to Buddhism and so on.
K: Did they reach her?
D: They used to her to calm things down in the background.
K: Are you able to say who ‘they’ is?
D: Let’s say - a parallel civilization or better
One parallel human civilization which some of us are about which
Neuschwabenland and has a population of between 20,000 to 30
000 is governed by councils.
There are another 3 parallel civilizations.
One has a population of about ½ million, another
of 5 million. There are 3 groups: R, A and L.
R are the
A are the Atlanteans
L are the Lemurians
The Atlanteans number about ½ million and the Lemurians about 5
million, although the populations sizes vary. Within the
Lemurian side there are 4 sub races. The Atlanteans and
Lemurians work well relatively together.
The Reptilians are
opposed to them.
The Atlantean technology is more advanced than
When Atlantis collapsed some of the survivors
moved somewhere else, but they are still with us in close
proximity, although time flows rather differently there.
K: Right. To Egypt
D: No, not only. Another, is
Lemuria still maintains a strong
contact with people on this earth, including China.
K: And they are in the Pacific Ocean - in these under Sea bases?
O: Are you able to say where they are?
D: I will tell you off camera. I will give you some hints. You
have books like the ‘Lord of the Rings’ which refer to real
situations - the Hobbits are the humans. This is opening and
closing dimensions - going around.
Have you heard about Nicholas Monsarrat? He wrote a book called
‘The Time Before This’. There is a link.
K: The ones you are referring to: are you able to describe their
physicality? Within these groups, you are saying there are at
least 4 different groups within the Lemurian. There have to be
several different groups within the Atlantean Group too?
D: Possibly. However, it is my understanding that their society
is governed by monarchs and they still use Sanskrit, in a
fashion more akin to its pre-Vedic form.
However, all the groups
interact, including the very small numbers of humans there,
possibly 100 or so interact freely. However, the reptilians
demand that the humans join their hands in supplication when
they are approached.
As an aside, it is not permitted for the
[visiting] humans to take live video or pictures there, although
they are permitted to write about their experience.
K: How did this information come to you about these groups?
D: I was informed.
K: From a human source or was it a download or psychic
D: By someone who ought to be dead a long time ago.
K: Did you see my Time Travel conference? I have some
information about this?
D: Yes, I did.
K: Did you see the story that I told at the end about people who
are supposed to be dead that aren’t?
D: Yes, I think I did.
K: So this person who is supposed to be dead: 1. are they one of
those people who has lived here a long time because they have
gotten the key to longevity?
D: You could say that.
K: Or, 2. are they one of the people that has been exposed to
the reverse ageing process or, 3. do they come over from the
D: The first bit. Number 1 and number 3 - they are connected.
But even 2. is possible.
K: The longevity key and the parallel dimension. But you don’t
want to say who this person is?
D: I can give you some hints. He is Russian and I can give you
something interesting else. You know about the Russian Imperial
family - you know that they were executed.
Everybody thinks that
Anastasia was the one who got away - actually it was Alexis who
got away. The boy. He was brought to Great Britain and his
descendants are still alive in the UK.
I think there was a deal by different sides to arrive at this
situation. This person knew Alexis - they were close.
K: Do you have any Russian descent or blood line in you?
K: Is there some reason why they chose you to approach?
D: I had been defrauded of a hell of a lot of money. They said
we have chosen you because we know you have been defrauded, but
you did not go negative. That is how they select certain people.
That is one of the ways that they test people.
K: And how were you defrauded - in what field?
D: Lets say commercial. But then it was partly a karma thing
because the person whom I had defrauded, I had badly treated in
Germany in the 1940s. I had maltreated him in the 1940s.
K: To keep the thread alive... Was this person that you mention, are they a sort of a mentor
- are they in the government?
D: No, not at all.
K: So, how did you get into this position in the government?
D: I applied for a job. I was qualified. To some extent I was
given the job a few months before I would normally have gotten
it. The process was accelerated. But it wasn’t involving
It had to do with someone being pushed to do
the paperwork. He did it correctly but he was pushed to do it.
It was above board, but he was remote influenced to do it
because he is a bit lazy.
K: They wanted you in place? And who is they?
D: The off-world civilization. But then I had done a very good
favor for them.
K: What favor did you do for the off-world civilization?
D: There is a connection device which you know about - surely
you have heard about - and the Russian had made a mistake and I
had to buy back this thing for him - this device.
K: Are you talking about the yellow book?
D: No, it was the ‘larig box’.
K: How did you buy back the device?
D: The Russian been a good entity but he fell prey to some
understandable human failings which we are all prey to. He had
spent a lot of money, went into debt and pawned the device to a
The device ended up in a casino. It was held in
custody there and began to have a lot of freaky effects on the
surrounding environment. We managed to recover the device back.
K: Who is 'we'?
D: The Russian and myself?
O: By normal means?
D: A bit and something else.
K: Some more remote influencing type thing?
D: Yes. The device began to have some crazy effects even around
the casino. The sky in the immediate vicinity began to (laughs)
change colors and all that.
K: What kind of device was this? Can you describe the device?
D: The device is able to translocate an individual from one
point on a surface to somewhere else.
O: A communication device to get somewhere else?
D: Like literally through solid rock - lots of rock-800 miles.
O: So we are talking
D: You could say that.
K: I think I know what this is. What year did you start in this?
I don’t know how long exactly you have been where you are? Do
you have preliminary levels in the government? I don’t even know
D: Do you want to focus on the off-world stuff or the
interaction between the off-world stuff and what is going on the
K: When I am asking the questions, if you could just tell me a
little bit about - it kind of characterizes you in a certain way
and it will help later - it just triggers some stuff.
D: Ok. In the hard world, I often interact between my country
and the Eastern hemisphere of the globe.
K: Do you speak these languages?
D: None. But then for some funny reasons - I think it is karma -
I get on very well with the Chinese.
K: Have you studied Eastern philosophy?
D: Yes, I have.
K: Do you meditate?
K: At this point can you just tell me how long you have been in
D: A decade.
K: And prior to that?
D: I was in other parts of the public service. I spent 5 years
as a court lawyer doing very mundane work.
K: So you know law?
K: Do you know international law or just the laws of your
D: I am familiar with International Law.
K: Now you can go wherever you like.
D: Ok. I would like to give you some mechanistic how... my
perception of how the political situation on the earth is
actually handled. In the cold war we were under the apparent
threat of essentially MAD -
Mutually Assured Destruction - the
fear of nuclear annihilation.
Now the situation is as follows:
All these 3 sides referred to above are really scared of each
other. What is worse than a nuclear war? A dimensional war.
K: My understanding is that it does pierce dimensions which is
what is part of the problem.
D: These different groupings have a certain arrangements to keep
a time line constant. Now, what they are scared of. Say, a young
guy who gets hold of an obscure occult book, puts into operation
something he doesn’t understand and breaks through the
There is someone you have heard who did that - who
may have made such a mistake.
Crowley did. He was an
extremist. He tried everything and he actually broke
dimensions. Now we have a very bad impression of Crowley, but he
was not that negative.
But then again, in part he was
essentially an artist who wanted to put an end to the crass
hypocrisy of the Victorian and Edwardian eras. As a wag once
‘The artist must go very far, so that the ordinary man
will go far enough.’
I believe that to the end he was on humanity’s side, despite
whatever was put out against him by the Daily Mirror…
K: Yes, I also believe there was a dis-info campaign put out
there purposefully. Actually, I believe by him. I believe he
wanted that to hide behind [that persona]. I have studied this
D: Now, A is more powerful than L.
technology is 1000s of years ahead of us. We have to go back in
understanding why A collapsed. A collapsed because its
technology advanced much more ahead of its moral development.
That is why you said in your last interview that - Courtney
Brown said the buildings appeared to be in 1950s mode while the
technology appears to be a 100 years ahead of us.
Atlantis had made a 1,000 years of progress in the equivalent
one hundred years. That is what actually happened. The
technology just went wild, beyond their ability to control it -
it is my opinion that
used the situation to help
K: But I understood there was also a hit coming from outside the
planet - a meteor that specifically hit the island in a certain
place - that was sent.
D: Could be. But there exists Atlantean technology that is
functioning. A case in point
the Tunguska situation was averted
because of the old technologies that were still functioning.
K: Ok well, what we have been told that there are these buried
1. in China
2. off the coast of Florida
3. one, I guess, in Russia
So you know of my interview with
D: He is correct.
K: So it is still functioning. So, when you are describing the
Atlanteans; are you describing the Anunnaki?
K: So they are 2 different civilizations. And when you are
describing the Atlanteans do you understand who they are and
where they came from?
D: They are humans that began to advance rapidly in a
K: So they were humans. Do you know what planet they came from?
D: Humans, but different from us. I know/perceive there is a
connection to Mars. I think that what happened in Mars - there
were a lot of genetic experiments. Their technology began to go
a bit wild, mixing human genes with animal genes.
pigs: there is an argument saying that pigs have human DNA in
them as a result of wild boar being genetically manipulated. A
lot of these legends about Minotaurs and other chimera, there
could be a kernel of truth to them.
D: And manmade mermaids and so on. But on another track, the
Reptilians, because of
the Illuminati agenda, would rather keep
technology - keep people in a bind - so that they can control
and dictate how technology is drip fed into the planet’s economy
so that they can control the economy. 
Are you familiar with a
deceased Russian economist called Nikolai Kondratriev? 
around in the 1920s. He discussed the link between the leakage
of technology into the economy and economic growth. So, by
controlling whether or not we get technology the Controllers can
determine the whole earth’s technology and the direction in
which it is going.
There is a certain joint council who decided
which technologies we are going to get and which technologies we
aren’t going to get. The different sides have different
K: You are putting the Anunnaki and the Reptilians in the same
D: No, I am not talking about the Anunnaki. I don’t think the
Anunnaki are as powerful now as they are portrayed. They were
powerful a long time ago but I no longer think they have the
influence that they had before.
There are still some of them
left but I wouldn’t say a more than a few hundred here, at the
most. They are bully boys with residual influence. But then
again there are a few who are more positively inclined.
K: You understand there is a distinction between the two races?
K: Do you agree that
the Vatican is run by the Reptilians?
D: Yes, I do, in part.
Benedict was in a situation; he was aware
the NWO agenda and was not on the same lines. He was led to
discover the Templar material and that is where he went ‘off the
K: When he discovered the Templar material - are you saying for
some reason he became simpatico with their work?
D: The Templars were partially rehabilitated by the Church under
Benedict. He also did a volte face over his perception of
Buddhism, becoming more sympathetic to it.
While he had formerly
denigrated it, he was on the verge of making blatant overtures
towards some sort of genuine dialogue with it. He also
rehabilitated Teillard de Chardin… whose basic philosophy was
that humans are eternal spirits having a physical experience.
K: He was brought a bit more into the [Atlantean-Lemurian] fold?
D: Yes, he was.
K: Kind of a public relations campaign. But, Benedict, the one
who has just left: what about his Nazi background?
D: He was an opportunist. He was a feckless careerist. But then
eventually there was a good side to him. On another level he is
spiritually evolved, despite his Roman Catholic conditioning.
An option which could be on the cards: although there is a 1%
chance of this happening, is that the Vatican relocates to a
central Mediterranean island at some point. It is always on the
On another track, in terms of
forthcoming Earth changes I think
the sea level might rise all over the world.
Discussion about where to take the
D: You have heard of Terence McKenna right. The impression that
I am getting is that the elite know that the time is up in the
Western Hemisphere so they are preparing to run away with the
On the other hand, the off-world civilizations know
what is happening and the better side is trying to help that it
transits to a positive line. Then there is the debate on how
this could take place. There is a lot of discussion about
financial system. When the system is under very extreme pressure
all the sides rub together.
You know how
the 2008 crash was
resolved in the short run? 20 billion Euros or Dollars had to be
pumped back into the system and the money wasn’t really there.
There are certain gold mines owned by the US government and so
on, which are not recognized and
some gold from there was used.
K: In the Philippines or somewhere else?
D: I do not know the location, but some major governments have
secret gold mines that they don’t acknowledge. Some gold was
used from there. Also, are you aware of parallel dimensions?
Some gold was brought in from a parallel dimension where the
value of gold is lower.
K: Why is the value lower? Is it because of their exchange
system or the value of the gold itself is lower?
D: It’s from a different time line. It is a different situation.
K: Yes, but you are saying that the different situation - there
is no difference to the quality?
D: No, no difference. I don’t know whether they could process it
to eliminate or put it through some machines, but apparently
some gold was brought in from the outside.
K: Who is crossing over? Is it some secret space program?
D: No, no, at the very top level. The 3 groupings ultimately are
able to transverse timelines with ease, just as the Anunnaki do.
K: One of those groups?
D: The 3 groupings working together.
K: And you know this because...?
D: I was told a long time before the crisis had erupted that the
banks periodically run out of money and they go to the 3
groupings and then they discuss how they are going to re-inflate
the economy. The same thing happened in 1987. But the situation
was much worse in 2008.
K: What about right now; and this thing with the Germans and
D: I am not sure how it is going to work out but I feel - there
are different scenarios. One is that China closes its borders to
the West totally.
K: How does that help?
D: It doesn’t help the West directly in the short run ; it helps
K: Ok, but my understanding is that China is actually more or
less bankrupt at the time and they are very dependent on the
West for staying afloat.
D: China is sending people all over Europe with the instructions
to study the welfare systems all over Europe. The idea is that
they will turn China into a welfare state - its consumers will
be more secure.
They will not save as much as they normally save
and consequently they will spend more and that will create a
massive internal market in China. At moment China is generally
dependent on exports, not on internal consumption.
But it has
already taken substantial technology from the West. Yet, this
could change and China could impose import controls again and
attempt to flourish by way of import substitution.
K: In other words they would depend on the consumer consumption
of their own people to fund their economy?
D: They would create their own system.
K: It sounds like a bad plan.
D: But China always does that. It did it before. Actually it
could turn out better for the West in the long run.
K: Did it before when?
D: Reference the erection of the Great Wall of China. At one
point they sent explorers out, but subsequently China closed
itself when it felt it had the highest standard of living in the
K: But they weren’t involved with the West then.
D: They were always involved with the West. Chinese diplomats
recall that China had received envoys from the Roman empire.
When one deals with China one is essentially dealing with a
6,000 year old bureaucracy, which sometimes has the perception
that the EU is a possibly forlorn attempt to recreate the Roman
K: So get back to the story that we are creating here. The
interaction between the off planet - the Atlanteans that are here,
are they known as
D: In part yes. There is an interaction with one group of
Atlanteans and the Illuminati but I don’t think the main thrust
of off world Atlantis is negative. I don’t think that they are
the negative. It is the negative part of the Atlanteans that is
pro illuminati, not the broad thrust.
K: They would in theory be at war with each other.
D: But the Atlanteans were infiltrated by the precursors of the
K: Who are they?
Akhenaton - that sort of philosophy, towards the end. Look,
K: That is the Anunnaki side.
D: Yes. But they were pushing for a certain trajectory… what we
know now as the New World order, previous to amalgamation into
a Galactic Federation.
K: So you are considering this the positive side?
D: No, I am not saying that. Imagine the US at the moment, the
US, the Western sphere is at present illuminati dominated, it
doesn’t mean that all Americans\Westerners are bad or whatever,
just parts of their respective governments Imagine, the
Atlanteans are in a situation, they are fighting against Lemuria,
or the Ancient Greeks.
At the very pinnacle of their power they
just collapsed. And this is what is happening in the US at the
moment, it is reaching a peak, and it is at the point of
collapse. No doubt, the real national and entrepreneurial spirit
of America could recover rapidly once it detaches itself from
its so called ‘empire’ which is draining it.
Take Russia, it
appears to be at least somewhat on the road to recovery after
having it ditched its [Soviet] empire.
K: Do you know where the Atlanteans are in the governments
around the world at this point? Do you know who they are? Let’s
Rothschild: who is he aligned with?
D: Negative side of the Atlanteans.
K: The Lemurians: are they the Chinese? Do the Chinese leaders
D: It’s mixed. Chinese politics is not like Western politics.
There are a few different groups.
The Triads are the Eastern
equivalent of the illuminati.
K: You have the Nationalist Chinese, you have the Communist
Chinese. That is the biggest division.
D: No, not quite. It’s different groups, You have the Triads,
you have the Chinese traditionalists, You have the Maoists... it
is a combination of groupings. There are dozens of secret
societies operating in China.
K: Isn’t the Communists, which I suppose would be the Maoists,
aren’t they running China at this time?
D: Don’t think of the government of China as being homogenous,
this is what Western media puts out. It is just not true.
fact there is a very close similarity in the way that the
internal factions in the Chinese government cooperate together
which corresponds more or less to the functioning of the
factions within Japanese politics.
Don’t forget that Marxist
communism is merely a very recent Western import to China.
K: But there has to be some leadership in a country
D: Yes, but it is a coalition of different interest groups. The
illuminati have some control over the government but they don’t
have total control. Now the Chinese are very nationalistic.
K: But do they align themselves
with Lemuria? These groups in
general - are they even aware of Lemuria?
D: No, no they are not. But under the surface there is a
connection to Lemuria.
K: So, you named 3 groups. You named the Reptilians
D: The Reptilians are closest to the Illuminati. They are the
real entrenched power. Now do you know where the Reptilians came
D: Not only. The earth’s gravity is not constant. The dinosaurs
had at some point involved into a humanoid species. When the
earth’s gravity increased they went elsewhere. The
by 1 inch every year, takes on mass inter-dimensionally and
becomes heavier. 
The dinosaurs could not exist on the
Earth’s surface because they were much too heavy. This is why
there are all these bizarre academic theories saying that the
dinosaurs used to live in lakes in order have their weight
partly supported by the water etc. They do not make sense.
K: Aldebaran. Are you aware
K: So some of the Nazis certainly align themselves with
Aldebaran at this time. So are you saying that some of the
influence comes from Aldebaran.
D: I am saying that some of the influence comes from the
intra-dimensional terrestrial evolved species.
K: From where?
D: From here. From a dimension very adjacent to ours.
K: But they are descendants from elsewhere.
D: I am not excluding their interaction with other
extraterrestrial races groups. The other 3 groups interact with
outside. So have you have A and L interacting with the Pleiadians up to a point.
K: So, let me ask you this. Are you familiar with Africa and the
things that Gordon Douglas was saying about Africa being sold to
a group probably coming in from Aldebaran, the Chinese have been
building cities in Africa to prepare for this and that all the
countries in the world are prepared for this and are aware that
this deal has been made to basically clear out Africa and to
allow this race to come on to this planet
D: I don’t rule this out, but I think that the Chinese are
basically interested in securing food supplies, minerals and
energy for their population.
K: Your sources haven’t made you familiar with this information
about the possibility of opening up Africa to an incoming race.
They haven’t told you about that?
K: Before I talk to you about it this minute, did you know about
D: Yes, I had heard this, but I can’t verify it.
K: Because you wanted to do an interview - let’s cover what you
D: What I want to do is basically bring along the idea that
are being guided by a previous civilization which does not want
us to make the same mistakes that we made previously during its
K: But you are aware that we are going to war in Syria and that
they are already bombing them and doing crazy things over there?
So, do you have any information - do these groups, do they
have... are the US more aligned with one group than another? Is
Russia more aligned with one group than another?
D: I would say that in America the Illuminati have more
K: The Reptilian Illuminati? Or the Atlantean Illuminati
D: It is one group basically. I would say the Reptilian
Illuminati have more influence.
Russia was once under Reptilian
control, but it slipped out of it. China is a mixed
situation - it is half in and half out. Japan used to be under
Illuminati control, but I am not sure whether it remains so. The
K: Do you know that the prophecies that Japan is going to sink
very soon and that they have to make provision for the people
and they have to go to the Kamchatka regions and that they have
D: I am aware of that.
K: Is the Chinese government consciously aware of this?
D: I am aware that they are building cities in China. There are
many empty cities...
K: Many people say that they won’t go to China???
D: Possibly. Although unlikely as it seems at the moment on the
surface, there could be a rapprochement between China and Japan.
K: There is definitely a very strong effort to destabilize the
Middle East right now.
D: Yes, but in the next year all this is going to be forgotten.
In the next year, the focus is going to be in the US. We were
informed that America is going to lose its Empire.
K: Due to what?
D: Over extension. Because the Illuminati is using America
against America itself. Draining of all the resources in all the
wars of empire and so on. The partial collapse of its currency.
This is not a new thing. We have been there before.
the collapse of Rome with the Roman Imperial government reducing
the amount of gold in its coinage to the extent that even its
own treasurers did not want to accept Rome’s own coinage.
K: They are taking it down economically right?
Secret Space Program seems to be orchestrated by the
Americans - there seems to be a real issue with that - they seem
to have a stronghold on that - which seems to be their only ace
in the hold to keep them - at least the group that runs America
in any kind of sense of being able to hold on to their Empire.
Is there anything to do with geophysical earth changes.
D: If you bring me a piece of paper and a pen I will explain
D: Our whole solar system revolves around another star system
which is Sirius.
Now, the models we have of planetary motion are
not quite correct. The sun moves like a comet around Sirius
taking 26 000 years. 25 500 or so years - this is the so-called
Great Year. When it moves it creates a wake. And the planets are
orbiting in a coma trailing in spiral mode behind it, with the
coma being more in the nature of a vacuum than interstellar
Now, the solar system is about to pass through denser
material, so the coma is about to contract inwards.
are going to be pushed outwards, away from the Sun and the
asteroid belt is in the process of being dislodged this is why
we are getting these waves of incoming asteroids. Now, to prove
this model I can point to one thing: do you remember when they
launched the Voyager spacecraft? Do you remember they said after
a certain point the craft began to slow down.
This is because
they were no longer in the coma and are now transiting the
denser interstellar space. So the Earth’s year is about to
increase because we are going to be pushed away from the sun. At
some point the Earth’s year was 300 days, gradually in stages it
reached 360 days and then 364. 24 at present.
Earth’s year going to gradually increase to 369 days or whatever
- but anyway the year is going to be longer.
This could take a few decades, but this is why we are getting
anomalous effects with the observation of the moon etc... and the
meteorites coming in, we are going to get more of these.
O: The Russians have announced that what fell in to their
country is part of a whole entourage. They have announced it on
their news - whether it is true or not - they announced it.
K: I have also had dreams about this - meteor showers. What
about the 2nd sun - the binary sun system?
D: We are a binary because Sirius is a binary to us.
K: Not because there is
a Brown Dwarf
D: No, this is not my impression so far, although I don’t
exclude the presence of other brown dwarfs in our vicinity.
Sirius’s twin is Earth. I am not aware of any 2nd sun coming in
that would create a significant disturbance.
K: Are you aware of moving through an energetic field?
D: Yes. The solar system’s progression around its companion,
Sirius, takes five roughly equal phases would make up 25 000
year Cycle comprising the Great Year of the solar system’s
movement around our binary star Sirius, and this Great Year is
made up of segments of 5 000 or so years each.
21 December was
the point when our solar system began to move to transit through
a slightly denser field.
K: Have you heard about the Atlantic ridge bulging right now -
the iron gasses are coming out of it? This was on the news.
D: I wouldn’t be surprised. Let’s say the mass of the earth is
smaller than it should be if it were totally solid.
K: Have you been aware or in touch with
the inner earth
civilizations or any of the contacts with any of those beings?
D: Yes, am aware of their existence.
K: For example, you know the Romanian sphinx and you know that
whole the story about the Transylvanian sun and moon rise? Did
you read those books?
D: I read parts of them.
K: Radu Cinmar was head of the major think-tank in Romania and
then he disappeared supposedly being invited into inner earth
because of the installation that was found and because of his
umbilical cord and how it was enlarged when he was born and his
abilities and his high intelligence - are they the same people?
Are you aware of any of these same people are in contact with
D: The same crowd.
K: Have you seen them physically?
K: Do they look like us?
D: What I have seen is something in-between a human and an
K: What does an Atlantean look like?
D: The intermediaries start to take on Atlantean DNA - or their
DNA opens up. I have seen shapeshifting.
K: But when you are talking about an Atlantean - how would there
physicality differ from ours - are there any obvious ways?
D: They are taller.
K: Any other - color of eyes, hair, any other physicalities?
D: My impression is slightly blue skin and red hair, or a lot of
hair that is tinged onto the red side.
K: Is the blue due to
the Sirian Anunnaki?
D: I am not sure.
K: What about
the Greys - the other alien races?
D: I know about them. I think many of them are future humans
derived from our own lineage.
K: The greys?
D: They are coming back for DNA. Imagine if you have a photocopy
and you start to photocopy it successively repeatedly - one copy
derived another - eventually it degenerates.
So they have to go
back in time and dimensions to get more DNA so that they can
continually get new bodies and replicate, successively
downloading their consciousness into the new shells. Did you see
the Gerry Anderson UFO series in the 70s? Note the blatant
illuminati ‘one eye’ symbolism in the very first few frames of
In the series one of the aliens (actually a
future human) reveals that the ‘aliens’ bodies are
K: This is also the
Dan Burisch story.
N: Actually in the 2nd series they capture an alien and it was
blue in color and they found out that they were basically
degenerating and they were stealing body parts basically.
D: Now my impression is that at his Zurich Camelot 2011
presentation, Dan Burisch was talking from his heart within
certain parameters he is locked in - he was not negatively
motivated. He was giving 30% of what he knew.
K: Are you
aware of MJ12 and what they call Scion.
D: I know MJ12.
K: There was a transition - even within the time of Camelot when
MJ 12 that turned - that Dan Burisch and the rest of them had to
turn in a completely different direction. Were you aware of
D: I am not aware of that. I can tell you as far as I can go. The
Dan Burisch presentation at the Zurich Camelot conference was
really important because the writing he showed on the
presentation board very much resembled Arabic.
K: I am aware of some ET writing that resembles Arabic
D: My impression - now this is a very difficult situation
because we are going to knock one of the major religions. My
impression was that Mohammad was being
channeled by a future
timeline - now it doesn’t mean that all the channeling was
negative, but it was designed to take the humans on to that
K: That would make sense in some ways with what I know.
D: If you study Spain - there is some evidence to show that at
first even the Catholic Church allowed the Muslims to take
charge in Spain - that was to displace the Visigoths that were
in charge in then in many parts of Spain.
K: What was wrong with them?
D: They were Gnostics
K: What was wrong with the Gnostics?
D: There was nothing wrong with the Gnostics, but in the eyes of
the global controllers, the mind control associated desert
religions i.e. Atonist Judaism, Atonist Christianity and Islam,
which are more or less of the same flavor, are better to work
with in terms of steering humanity onto a predetermined time
Essentially, they wanted the Muslims in and I think that the
abuse by Muslim religion in a massive way by the global
controllers is ultimately being used in a massive way to steer
humanity. There is some evidence to show that the very high
levels of Masonic organizations - at high levels - the
paraphernalia and iconography tend to go very ‘Islamic.’
Normally, in any country the religious books inside Masonic
lodge tends to be the book of the religion of the country - so
in predominately Christian countries it would be the Christian
bible. But then at a very high levels you see the masons wearing
the fez hats and taking oaths on the Koran.
My impression is
that the ultimate dark controllers are using the religion to
steer humanity’s course. However, all this does not mean that
Islam in its original form was that negative.
K: But you understand where the Vatican is taking that?
The Vatican is not a single faction. My impression is that
the Jesuits are on the same lines as the illuminati, but I don’t
think Benedict and his associates, including Bertone, wanted
this agenda ultimately. So belatedly, they attempted to move out
of the rut... but they couldn’t or at least they preferred
the Rothchild faction to the possibly more virulent
K: So they wanted
Benedict to leave.
D: Well, he was ultimately indicted for the pedophilia
situation. That is why he had to leave
about Francis and what he is doing?
D: My impression is that he is sympathetic to the negative
timeline - that he is sympathetic to the Illuminati.
K: Very much so. In terms, of the groups that you are naming;
for example, the Lemurians, can you describe them?
D: Short - shorter than the Atlanteans and their technology is a
little bit more primitive than the Atlanteans. The Lemurians
find it hard to reason, thus they tend to solve situations
through accessing their memories.
On a humorous note both groups
perceive humans as being terribly smelly. Atlanteans have very
beautiful cities, while Lemurians tend to be rough. At the
moment they are at peace with each other, but there was a
history of belligerence between the two sides. It is slightly
easier to get access to the Lemurian dominated regions than to
Atlantean dominated regions.
But basically we are talking about
an area equivalent to the size of Latin America, being
mountainous that the general surface of the Earth, having lower
gravity. There is a lower percentage of water cover to land mass
than on the Earth’s surface.
K: What area are they affiliated with? Are they indigenous...
D: They are indigenous. The Lemurians used to hold the eastern
hemisphere of the globe physically and now they have a ‘remote’
but ever present influence on the eastern hemisphere of the
K: Are you aware of Mu?
Mu and Lemuria are the same thing - pretty much.
K: But Mu is in the Pacific.
D: Yes, the eastern sphere.
K: So you are crossing over.
D: Yes, I am crossing over.
K: So when - are you aware of the information that I got from
Douglas Dietrich for example? He worked in San Francisco - he is
part Chinese/part Japanese.
D: I think I read one of his articles in Nexus magazine.
K: He talks about how angry the civilization of Mu is right now
- they are rising up from their undersea bases - they are very
about Fukushima etc.
D: This is understandable.
K: So this is Lemuria as you understand it as well. So that
being the case - at least what I have heard is that they are
amphibious; they are related to the Chinese.
D: Some, but not all groups are amphibious?
K: How does this affect world affairs at this time?
D: Well, it is an upheaval. We have got to be prepared for
rising sea levels, but I think they are going to take place
gradually. We also have to be prepared for a creeping ice age in
northern Europe because the Gulf Stream is collapsing.
energy that normally keeps it from freezing to the state that
say Kiev on the same latitude as the UK, normally experiences,
is being diverted to northern parts of America - which explains
the very rough weather we have been recently getting in Western
K: But what about the - supposedly the Gulf situation with the
nano oil - the black oil - you are aware of that?
K: This was triggered by an off-planet race. You have heard
D: I would not be surprised.
K: It is eating the bottom of boats out - it is very dangerous
but it is also being put into one for the car oils. That it can
be put into a human body and animate it. 25 Marconi scientists
D: The black goo.
K: Basically what happened was that they were taken over and died
in the most bizarre fashion - not even human.
D: But basically our consciousness is rising so we should not
perceive of these as being real threats these acts are being
carried out basically by forces who are afraid of losing
K: But do you know the race. One person is saying that it is
associated with the Chinese - the race that brought in the black
goo. Have you heard anything like that?
D: I have heard about the Velon but I am not sure what they are
K: The what?
D: The Velon. They could be a derivative of
the Verdants. But I
am not sure.
K: So when you said you were in touch with both positive and
D: No - they work together.
D: I will tell you off the record.
K: In your own life - in a more personal level can you talk
about that? Your interaction with the various races?
D: Lets say, supposing there are so many officials present at a
European Union meeting - if you studied the situation where
there are 28 European member states present.
You can start analyzing very very, carefully - you would find that the
majority would ostensibly be within Illuminati sphere of
influence and a minority under joint Atlantean/Lemurian
control... and a very small - a third group the orientation of
which I don’t understand, but whose access to technology is
lower than that of the other groups and another group that is
So within these meetings you would get these 3/4
However, I have to qualify this by stating that you
could get an individual who is ostensibly under
illuminati/reptilian influence but still has a service to others
orientation as opposed to a service to self orientation. When
push comes to shove he or she could opt for a positive path.
K: And you are affiliated with one of those factions?
D: Yes. But if you really start to perceive what is going on it
starts to make sense.
K: But in terms of your affiliations would you say that you are
with the good side of the Atlanteans?
D: I would hope so. At this point it is very interesting to
study the behavior Greeks and Cypriots…..
K: Which is why Greece must be attacked and taken down… There was always a discontinuity between Rome and Greece.
D: Yes. You have some elements of the Greek Orthodox Church
which have a discreet contact with Atlantis and Lemuria.
K: Given this situation - are you aware of incoming planetoids -
why the Vatican tried to squash
Christopher Barbato and the
Jesuits? Do you know about that? Do you know why they were....?
D: Yes, I know all about that - my impression. I think there is
a lot of knowledge in the Vatican library - a hell of a lot and
they don't want that information out. Now, I suspect many of the
old books are from the library at Alexandria which were
supposedly destroyed, are in the Vatican library.
K: Sure. I have always thought that. You got information about
the destruction of the library at Alexandria and what is under
sea of the coast of Egypt there.
D: On another track, we have to think of Atlantis not being a
D: It used to have a lot of satellite cities all way around the
Western hemisphere. Very much like Phoenicia had in its day,
many millennia after.
K: You listened to the Courtney Brown - my info is that he is
wrong. That the drilling of Mount Toba that he was emphasizing
is not how Atlantis fell.
D: I think Atlantis was sabotaged by the Anunnaki. Because
Atlantis began to threaten their monopoly on power and that is
why we are being dumbed down.
At one time the humans used to
live a lot longer - they don’t want us to live to 300 - 400
years of age because then we will start to accumulate so much
occult knowledge that we would really start to challenge them.
They just was biological robots to do the grunt work for
K: But although that barrier has broken. There are some races or
there is this longevity. There are some people who have broken
through that. And for the most part they are say, affiliated
with the Atlanteans or Atlanteans themselves.
D: Yes, but up to a certain point one can’t really describe them
as being human. In their progression the intermediaries DNA will
gradually change. Their DNA will be able to regenerate itself at
a 100% faster than the normal DNA than the normal body system
K: In terms of what is going on here and what you wanted to tell
D: Ok - one of the intermediaries I think is St Germain.
K: And have you been in contact with him?
D: No, although I suspect that he may have had contacts with the
K: And how do you know this?
D: If it looks like something and acts like something... it is
K: Yes, I have had a lot of information come at me from that
D: But I think it was a joint decision by the Illuminati and the
good side of the Atlanteans to establish America. A joint thing.
K: But now they are taking it down. But know you are hearing
that it will be invaded - it will be broken up?
D: I think there was one plan to turn it into a North American
federation. I am very suspicious of the UN. I think that the
WWII was not really fought over crushing Nazism brutality per se
- I think it was fought over Hitler - the Germans had gone off
the reservation by printing their own money independent of the
Rothschild banking control - and that really got to them.
other idea was to set up the UN as a milestone on the road to a
global government and another thing was to set up the state of
Israel to help orchestrate events.
K: Is it your understanding though that there Israel there is a
very strong Anunnaki faction?
D: I don't know that. I believe that the Israelis are ultimately
being used by the Zionists.
K: Can you describe exactly what is going on the planet right
now that to some degree is being orchestrated off-planet?
D: I think the controllers are really rushing - they had a 5/20
year plan to get everything under world government control - and
they are losing it.
It’s like trying to drive a car by taking
off the steering wheel and replacing it with a wrench. You are
trying to steer in a crude fashion. When you do things in rush
you make mistakes and lose control.
They are trying to start a
war in Syria - they are trying to do this and that it could be
that it is not going to work for them
K: I would agree - but what I am really asking you is what are
your contacts telling you? Is this what your contacts are
D: They are telling us not to panic. It could be that the
control is going down - the suppressed technology is being
released and eventually this will invigorate the world’s
K: So your contacts haven’t mentioned anything other than earth
changes and a rising sea changes that are fairly gradual as
being anything hugely cataclysmic?
D: No, no - it is not going to be anything that drastic - or
that negative. We have to take it in our stride.
some point the whole of the Earth including some of the hidden
dimensions, will unite… but more on the lines of
the Law of One
as indicated by the Ra material as opposed to the
K: But you were really propelled to tell me some things today
D: The message is not to panic basically. A lot of people are
going to have to do a lot of soul searching next year - starting
K: Which people?
D: The alternative media and so on - because the established
media is going to gradually lose control - people are going to
have to look for answers and they are going to have to turn to
the alternative media, as their governments and religious
leaders will not quench their search for the truth.
O: What is the difference between what is going on now and what
is going on next year? Why would they suddenly look for answers?
Is there an event that triggers this change?
The banking system is about to get a little bit worse
initially but it could be managed.
O: What you are saying is that the economy is not just
happening, but it is something that is being managed?
D: Yes, the dollar was originally set up to collapse round about
O: So are we going into the gold standard in some form?
D: There could be other replacement currencies circulating.
Bitcoin might actually work and some other ideas might pan out.
K: Are you aware of the movements of the Iraqi dinar?
K: Are you aware of
the gold in the Philippines and the
frequency fence and the beings that are guarding it.
D: I am aware of the gold in the Philippines, but not aware of
any frequency fence.
K: Some say that the gold in the Philippines is no longer there.
Have you heard anything about that?
D: Yes - it has been taken to different places. Some of it is
still there - some of it has been moved.
K: In terms of the US economy - do you hear of anything specific
because we know it is like they are taking it down gradually?
D: They don’t want a totally panicky situation... The negative
side don't want a situation like in the late 20s early 30s when
K: So they don't want a crash?
D: They want a controlled crash. But they don’t want a situation
where even the integrity of the system will be challenged.
the 20s and 30s there were many riots in America that never came
out in the mainstream news.
If you look at the internet you
will see footage of real big riots - they do not want a
situation like that.
K: In other words - there is a real big deal in America about
FEMA camps and things like that - they are obviously making
plans. Do you think that they will just not be used?
D: I don't think so.
K: In terms of?
D: I think some elements in the US army - I think eventually the
white hats will intervene.
K: When you say eventually within the next year or two?
D: Could be next 4 years, but eventually they will
K: In this scenario that you drawing here, do you see anything
that is coming up very clearly that has to do with the transfer
between parallel earth and this earth?
D: There exist parallel time lines and there are 4 major ones.
There is ours... there is a scenario where the Germans one the
2nd WW, 3rd one in which the humans are a bit more
traditionalistic - still have castles and have zeppelins for
moving around from point to point.
Our scenario is a bit more
positive and there is one is which is a bit more jumbled up. You
know you see in the pyramids freaky animals with funny shapes...
that is because the Egyptian priests were directly looking into
Now, it is easier for us to move into option 2
where the Germans won the war than for the ones in that option
to come into our dimension.
K: But this is already happened in
Project Paperclip... the
Nazis are running the...
D: Yes, because there are karmic bleed throughs.
K: You said your contact is part of the scenario - part of the
longevity program, but that it also has part to do with a
D: Yes, but the improvement in our planet will also be linked to
a more positive situation affecting the other parallel time
lines as well.
K: But Dan Burisch has also said that....
D: Ok. May I expand a little bit on this point? In the Times of
London - the London Times... in the 80's there were a lot of
alternative stories about what would have happened if the
German’s had won the war.
The alternative history stories were
based on the real other time lines. Like Albert Speer taking
over after Hitler - say starting an arms race between America
and Germany - America had not joined the Second World War in
that time line.
These - sometimes these stories are leaked as
they were based on reality.
K: Sure. Have you seen the TV series Fringe - talking
specifically about the parallel.
D: Yes, yes that is correct.
K: So, given the very strong efforts at this time
the Middle East...
D: The idea is to pit the Sunnis against the Shiites, and thus
create a World War 3 scenario.
K: Are you being told it will be successful. Are you being given
any information about this in any way? About Syrian, Iran,
D: What I am getting is that the mass media will eventually
transfer its attention
K: …on to the US mainland because of the collapsing economic
D: Not the collapsing, the reforming. This is something
positive. It is a process.
K: Have you seen Obama leave office for example?
D: 3 or 4 years ago some elements of the negative side were not
happy and they were trying to remove him but somehow it didn’t
really quite pan out.
K: So you think he will stay in office?
D: I am not sure. But what I see is this, I see the people
eventually displacing certain powers-that-be in the government.
K: Have you seen in other words a coup?
D: No - rather a passive displacement process. I will give you my
version of the real history of the 20th century - it is going to
be really controversial. And the late 19th century.
effort of the 20th century was to create an oil and banking
monopoly and 2, to keep the anarchists out of government. The
only real threat were the anarchists.
The communists were always
under some sort of control. If the communists had not been
financed in 1917 to stage the Bolshevik revolution, the
anarchists would have taken control. If you examine what
happened in the Spanish civil war the whole - the BBC propaganda
was specifically directed against the anarchists.
the communists at the end of the day were Rockerfeller created
and always ultimately subservient to the Rockerfeller/Rothchild
Nothing has changed. In the 19th century, Russia was the
world’s largest oil producer and the Rockefellers didn’t want
the Russian oil supremacy to continue as they wanted a monopoly
for themselves so that is why the financed Trotsky to stage the
K: But they have made a comeback.
D: Yes, but it is not longer under Illuminati control. Even
though they do dreally odgy stuff together at times like what
happened in Poland a few years ago.
K: But really the bottom line is that Russia maintains a certain
amount of control over Poland.
D: Because Polish population was a bit too big to be easily
managed and too independent minded - it is a sort of an oddity -
population is a bit large - 40 million and the Russians are
always afraid of Polish nationalism and the Illuminati were as
well. The Poles are a rather a Europe skeptic bunch, also…
K: You know the
Billy Meier's prophecies.
D: No, I do not. I have heard of Billy Meier though.
K: Well, one of the prophecies is that basically Russia will run
D: Yes, its influence is going to increase. The hold that the
Western Hemisphere has all over the world is about to decrease
and the influence that the Eastern Hemisphere holds is about to
Russia is about to become more wealthy in relative
terms. But I look at Putin as being a sort of a Russian Romanov
rethread. He is a Russian nationalist at heart.
K: But he seems to be playing a game. Do you understand the game
that he is playing with Snowden?
D: Yes. The Russians are trying to - they are using Snowden to
capture the hearts and minds of the West. You know what is going
Russia Today. Russia Today is being used to increase
Russia’s influence over the West and they are doing it very,
They are letting all the US dissidents have their say
over the media.
On another track, I can give you an example of an Atlantean/Lemurian
intervention in Russia.
Let say Atlanteans and Lemurians would
have noticed that the birth rate in Russia had really toppled,
they would attempt to make a legislative move in order to
finance Russian women so as to readdress the situation.
K: Why would they do that? Why would they want to boost the
D: To keep a balance. To keep an internal balance.
K: Between the powers on earth?
D: Not quite. Between the young and old within Russia in terms
of internal demography. Now I will explain to you what happens
before any significant election in any country.
Lemurians and Reptilians, they have a problem in terms of
gauging of how our society works. It rather like human
anthropologists trying to work out the internal politics of a
troop of monkeys that they are are observing.
Thus, they use intermediaries in order to have an idea of what
intervention should be done and what decisions should be taken.
What happens is that a limited number of intermediaries
abducted with their own consent.
Thus, in a pre-election meeting
the soul intermediaries from the different factions would join
together and would decide on what should be done and what should
not be done.
K: So they have a meeting on the astral plane?
the astral plane. This happens for example in European
elections. But not only, for example, an important decision has
to be taken about North Africa. You would get people in the know
even from Italy for such meeting because they would have some
sort of insight, besides North African intermediaries
K: Were you invited to such meetings?
D: I have been to such meetings. But the situation is contrived
that one can only recall bits and pieces of whatever transpired
when one wakes up.
K: In terms of who is running these meetings - the people at the
very top level?
D: There would be some Atlantean, Lemurian and Reptilian
Ok. Lets take a hypothetical case: let’s say in order to
stabilize Tunisia a decision is taken to increase the number of
people in the army - to give young people some jobs.
K: In terms of your participation in these meetings - if you
understand who is doing these interventions....
D: No you don’t. They are masked. It could be that even you
yourself are attending these meetings and are not realizing what
is going on.
K: I am sure of it. Ok. But what I am saying here is that, from
the perspective of what you understand, what you have seen, I am
interested in this so called leadership group - this mixture of
positive and negative beings that would be participating in
D: We are talking about different levels. Thus, the in-between
DNA intermediaries who would have a mix of the DNA of human DNA
along with the DNA of the off world civilizations are permitted
to attend certain meetings...
K: But again - if I would ask you to describe this group?
D: I couldn’t. But you would know if you were at the
meeting. You go to sleep at night, you fall asleep, that 8 hours
has passed and you feel a little bit tired afterwards when you
wake up as you were partly occupied elsewhere…
O: When you say they are masked, do you mean literally or in a
kind of vague way?
D: They are veiled. You don’t really see what is going on.
K: This middle group then. Would we recognize them on a human
D: No, not really. But psychic would.
K: for example, St Germaine would he be in this middle group?
K: Do you agree with Erin Rothschild that Crowley is still
D: You know the answer
D: But I don’t think that he is negative. He is still a bit
crazy in a funny sense. He acts as being rather greedy in terms
of money - in order to give it all back, sometimes to charity -
he is still a shaman…
K: But in terms of the sort of, the trade off in terms of this
middle group. If some of these people are
D: Some of them even change sides. You get intermediaries
changing from one side to another. Some of them get very bored
as well. When you start to live very long you begin to become
very eccentric and start to do sort of oddities like flipping
dimensions a little bit - entertaining and so on.
K: There seems to be... the new world order does seem to be
making some headway on the planet this time, and they seem to be
trying, especially in Britain, to clamp down on really...
increase their police state. Now some of this might be a public
display of might if you will.
D: That is what it is.
K: But, in the US as well, personal liberties have been taken
away very rapidly.
D: Yes, but the shift is positive - this is just a last gasp.
O: They are still trying to take down the anarchists.
K: We are talking about direct attacks on the alternative media.
Are you familiar with
Michael Hastings - the rolling stone
journalist who was killed in June in a very bizarre way?
D: You will expect these things to happen.
K: But given that we are doing this at the moment. We have
things like drones, we have things like we are being giving
predictions of invasions by a robotic race that is coming this
way, it may even be in our sector at this time.
D: Yes - but they are not happening.
K: I will give you an example. The London Olympics. I think they
were all set to go with a fake alien invasion.
D: I really think that for a few seconds they even tried it
during the Opening Ceremony but then someone told them to pull
back because their graphics were not good enough.
N: Was that visible on the opening ceremony?
D: Yes. If you go onto YouTube you will probably find it.
N: I have a hi definition copy of it.
D: They were about to start and then they pulled out at the last
K: Well it was said that there was a UFO sighting during that
D: That was it - they were probably going to take it further,
but they couldn’t
K: I am curious about your understanding of the Anunnaki. Do
you feel that you have been given information - or the
information has been kept from you in this regard?
D: There is a lot of talk about them, but there are only a few
of them left.
K: Have you been told about a commanding control centre
K: and you are familiar with the
Clarke McClelland disclosures?
Do you have anything to say about any of that?
D: Yes, the Anunnaki live underground, are usually only party
clothed or down right naked. For the great part they are
to self in their orientation.
K: Do you know about solar warden?
K: Do you have anything to say about that?
D: I have said everything before - they,
the elite, know the
whole scenario is changing. That is why we are seeing films
such as the Hunger Games and Elysium. They are trying to posit a
future situation where there is a bifurcation in human society.
K: the balance on planet earth is changing but it is also said
that - is it your feeling that the frequency is rising - so
things like Fukushima - and the permutation...
D: I could point to other stuff… like Brussels being heavily
chemtrailed, possibly on dates when important decisions are
taken… so that the various representatives from EU member
states would be temporarily isolated from their higher spiritual
connection when decisions are taken… I will give you an example
I work in a small government office. 20 years ago the
employees would not have discussed these things amongst each
But the alternative media is having an impact… it is
making inroads. The younger employees are openly discussing
things - say 10-15% of them - and they are tacitly beginning to
influence the older ones too - so it is coming through.
K: But when I say - a rise in frequency, my theory is that this
poisoning of the earth is an ongoing effort but it is not going
to be successful, at least in that a certain portion of
humanity, this level we are moving into, basically the 4th
dimension and we are going to be out of....
D: Look, why are there all these rumors of this idea to reduce
the population? Now, all of us individually have a slight
psychic capability. Now when you have numbers - 7 billion right -
you are going to challenge the controllers... because
consciousness will create its own reality right. That is why
to reduce the population. That is what it is all
consciousness rises, it will create its own positive
feedback. Will give you an example of what happened it Ireland.
In Ireland in the late 60s the consciousness level began to rise
and the Protestants and Catholics began to interact beyond the
Subsequently, what happened was that the Illuminati manufactured
the incidents like Bloody Sunday between the different
communities to polarize the situation - to produce
We have to be aware of these games. Some people
can point to the people who sparked these incidents.
K: Is there going to be a showdown?
D: There will be some showdowns, but my inkling is that there
will also be clear indications that consciousness is rising. A
case in point being the September 2013 refusal by the UK
parliament to approve full scale military action against Syria.
O: I wanted to ask something about - you know how before you
said that in Russia there was an intervention to increase the
population - and now we are talking about the reduction - can
you define it more clearly?
D: The positive side wanted a balance in the population.
planet can take anything between 20 and 40 billion people -
there is no problem.
What we can’t take is parasites feeding off
us, taking our resources for clandestine space programs with
objectives that a benefit a very narrow class of human society.
That is what we can’t take.
O: When you are talking about those factions - the ones that
want to increase the population and the ones that want to
decrease the population - can you relate that to the groups?
D: A (atlanteans) and L (lemurians) could recognize a healthy balance in the population,
they don’t mind. The R (reptilians) side wants to push the population down.
O: …and the illuminati - where are they?
D: with the R.
K: …in terms of your - how did this work in terms of did you
come here purposefully to meet with me - did you know you were
going to meet with me or where you going on instinct?
D: No, I did not - I was going on instinct. But I was informed
that it was the right time.
The comment was about Camelot - they
said you can get very good information from Camelot, but there
are a number of people who are being put on Camelot who are a
bit negative and say low quality - but you have to do something.
If you are involved in something of this order it is
impossible to vet incoming information to the point that it is
peter perfect i.e. 100% - you have to take the good with the bad
- it is a learning curve and nobody gets it right all the time.
The way I see it that Camelot, along with
Creations, is taking a leading role towards presenting
information to the global public. It is up to the individual to
sort out which jigsaw pieces are valid and where these fit and
K: It is not so much that as it is purposeful in that if you
don’t display the dark and the light then people only understand
And most people have some combination - and some more
than others -
Leo Zagami is a perfect example.
He is much more
on the dark, but you can see a lot from the dark by seeing this
man on display and how he operates - so this is purposeful - it
is understood in terms of a method of teaching.
There is no good
in not having people from the dark side.
D: But some of the videos would have been ideal teaching tools -
say you had to give them to psychology students and task them
will identifying who is telling the truth and who isn’t and
instructing them to study the body language.
K: …and more than that too - there is too much emphasis on
body language in my opinion - there is what can be felt and what
resonates because body language can be faked in my opinion.
D: It can but only up to a point. One of the things that
they teach one when someone is trained to be an agent is to
remain in eye contact. Normally when someone is telling a lie
the natural tendency is to maintain one’s gaze as the natural
tendency is to avert one’s gaze when one is fibbing, but one
can’t really hold it for more than half an hour…
K: But that doesn’t really - again - it’s just my personal
opinion watching this dynamic. In terms of the overall picture
with the Vatican and where they are going - you have heard of
this recent decree that Francis put out that anyone under Roman
law could be prosecuted. Do you understand that the reverse side
of that is that?
D: It is
the Vatican losing control. Who established the
K: Ok. The Romans - but in a sense it is the US and the Brits
who are the ‘new’ Romans at the moment. So what about the earth
changes, the volcanoes, the earthquakes, the potential for
tsunamis, even manmade.
D: The impression that I am getting is that things are not as
bad as they are making them out to be.
K: But what about manmade disasters? Other things that might be
coming along that might be - have you been told anything like
D: No, we being told not to worry too much. They are there but
not to worry too much. I think the high point this decade was
the Japan earthquake and the Haiti...
K: Why are they allowing Japan to go under? What is the
motivation - do you know?
D: It goes back a while. I don’t think that they really expected
that Japanese would have taken such a massive bite off the US
economy in the 80s. Then they had the
Kobe earthquake - that
was set up by the Illuminati so that the Japanese would
surrender their banking interests….other wise the illuminate
timeline agenda would have been scuppered.
K: Well these are continual threats to Japan - these things but
at the end there is still this thing that this island is going
to be taken down - that it’s not going to survive the next even
10 years possibly.
D: There is a problem, but I don’t think that it is as bad as
they are trying to make it out to be. The other thing is that
Japan is an oil importer and at one point the Japanese had begun
free energy devices for possible mass production and
I think that got to them as well.
It could be that part of Japan
is going to be affected by the earth changes but it also could
be that they also trying to make it out that Japan is not a
viable option - not a secure country.
K: I also heard that Fukushima was to some degree the Zionists
allowing this to happen so that there was a fight over uranium.
D: I think Fukushima had been planned a long time back.
K: There is also the issue that the Lemurian maybe more aligned
with the Chinese and there is a very long antipathy between
Japan and China.
D: No, there is antipathy against Japan's government - part of
the government because it is under illuminate control but not
against the Japanese.
There is antipathy against
the [Zionist] government
of Israel - but not against Israelis. However, despite the
history of belligerency between China and Japan… I can see the
two joining forces in the future.
As an aside, it is very
interesting to watch the predictive programming in the recent
James Bond Skyfall movie. In the movie the UK appears to be on
the down swing while China appears to be on the upswing.
Scotland appears to be frozen over, perhaps the result of the
collapse of the Gulf stream, while you have a great eyed piglet
representing the bad side of Atlantis featuring prominently
throughout the movie and notably towards the end… this is
indicative of the intention of the minority bad Atlanteans to
someday attempt to return….
K: But in terms of this take down of Japan - I am interested in
what the Lemurian controllers - what their investment is.
Because in a certain sense, if they are orchestrating things to
some degree, trying to influence things.
D: The Japanese are basically partly of Lemurian descent - no one
does not - as are the Chinese - they are not going to savage
K: Well in theory not but what we see happening is this
poisoning of this continent - at least it is being said, and you
agreed with me initially that Japan will submerge.
D:. No, no it will be threatened. My understanding is it is going
to be in part threatened but it is not going to be something
K: So you see it continuing to exist for say another 20 years?
D: It is going to gradually diminish in size. But it doesn’t
mean that people cannot relocate. People move around from place
to place all the time.
K: Are you familiar with
Veterans Today and Gordon Duff? Are you
noticing that they are rising in influence and do you understand
what is going on behind the scenes there?
D: Yes, yes, I think it is a grass roots rise in consciousness.
Take the UK you can see a lot of posters on street regarding
army recruitment - yet they are finding it very difficult to
find young people to go into the army to go and fight new wars.
K: What about the underground bases, the super soldiers and the
robotic soldiers and so on?
D: The elite is going to be replaced by another elite. There is
still going to be an elite, but the soon to be former elite want
to run away from us.
K: There are a lot leaving the planet - you are getting this?
D: IT COULD BE.
K: When you are answering my question is it because you have to
say a certain amount and you can’t say more or is it only
because you know so much?
D: No, I am trying to... I am going to give you an indication.
Wasn’t there a book written ‘The Time Machine’ by H G Wells. H G
Wells had actually had a contact that really had
time travel. You heard about that?
K: Yes. I understand that.
D: He saw the population splitting into 2 parts. This is what is
going on. One part underground and one part on the surface.
K: This is the Nordics and the Greys.
D: Some parts of the elite have the notion that they are
going to try and live underground...
K: But there is also a faction going off planet.
D: Yes, but they knew about it all along. So they deliberately
brought about the creation of
the US Federal Reserve - they went
off the gold standard. Did you read the Wizard of Oz? What was
it about all about? The gold brick road.
The illuminati put out
that book because they were criticizing the American president
of the day by implying that he was restricting economic growth
by sticking to the yellow brick road and the yellow bricks are
gold - they were criticizing him for trying to maintain the gold
standard - previous to them manipulating to have
Reserve set up in the process abandoning the gold standard.
K: So they went off the gold standard to fiat money?
D: So that they could ramp up parts of the global economy by
creating artificial wealth - and siphon off that that wealth to
create parallel civilizations - so when the consciousness rises
- they have somewhere to run to.
K: So you are aware of groups going off planet and you are aware
of elites leaving this is your understanding?
O: Do you know where to?
D: There is some talk of Latin America
K: Absolutely, but it would be interesting as it seems that
Latin America is very much occupied by the reptilians and the
So that is in an interesting combination.
Because the Lemurians - whether they have allowed it to happen
or not there has been a huge abduction, hybrid, alien program
in that area.
D: It is interesting to note that Latin America is slipping away
from US control. Consciousness is rising over there, too
K: Nonetheless, there has been strong - you see Lemuria as
having a strong positive influence...
D: Yes. I associate Lemurian intermediaries with having brought
beneficial medical technology to the surface.
K: But the fact is that the Nazis have infiltrated that space.
So is there a war of sorts between the Lemurians and the Nazis or
are they working together.
D: I don’t think they get on very well together. Many wars are
not fought directly - they are fought by proxy.
K: In terms of this interview, we don’t have to keep going
forever and I want to know where you are at so far.
D: My idea is to give you a positive message. There is something
that can be done. They want us to see parallel dimensions and to
get gradually acclimatized to the idea of human travel to other
But it has to be done in a way that will not shock the people.
So it might be a good idea if you put out this situation on
Camelot - saying look - we understand that there could be a case
that people start to view parallel dimensions, for it to be done in a way that doesn’t shock the general
Followers of Camelot are being solicited to send in
Then when the suggestions come in, copy and
paste without disclosing who is sending them on to say a link
right, and put the link out in general public - then this will
be picked up right by some of the off world groups and they will
Because the problem is, they can’t just gauge human
behavior accurately - it has always been a problem for them -
this is why they always have to recruit intermediaries.
K: So as a sort of a market research program - float this out
D: Yes - float it out and see what happens.
K: In a sense my time travel conference was doing this already -
A'shayana Deane’s material also talks about this.
D: The point is that a clear program has to be created.
K: In a sense
Fringe was doing this.
D: But Fringe was negative, wasn’t it…? The elite were just
telling us in our faces via Hollywood that they had been up to
mischief and that by our acquiescence we were accepting what was
being hidden in plain sight... But anyway sometimes the right
thing is done for the wrong reasons.
K: Ultimately, whether Fringe was negative or not was a good
question... the parallel is more negative than the current one
but that is actually the case.
D: Yes, but I mean.
K: In a sense was accurate - the crossing over was accurate.
D: Illuminati are kabbalists but I think the release of this
information could be done in a more positive way. A way that is
N: For the public maybe but not the film industry.
O: I wanted to ask you about the 4 dimensional parallel time
lines. You made this assertion that there was one time line -
the Nazis succeeding in the war is closest to us and the bleed
through actually happens from that parallel reality rather than
from the other two.
D: Yes, there are bleed thoughts from all of them. There is a
bleed through from ours to theirs. And the other way.
O: When you talked about it you mentioned that hits one is the
D: I think it is the closest. That is my impression.
O: How do you see it?
D: Because there are people in that universe who are
identifiable from our universe. For example our shadow selves as
well. For example, you get Albert Speer taking over from Hitler
in the 50s.
But then the Nazis in the parallel universe, after
they have conquered everywhere - they have done all ethnic
cleansing that they have to do and they have become a bit more
However, the people there look a little more ‘gross’
than we do, probably an effect of the lower gravity.
O: So in that reality there are very few Jewish people, black
D: Yes, the scientists have not been born so the technological
progress has been slower. The women are still wearing 1940s
clothing - they started using jets as passenger aircraft about
10 years ago.
The nose end of the jets are slightly reminiscent
of the equivalent Heinkel bomber equivalent. Australia is
smaller than it is in this dimension. The earth is slightly
O: Is there British government in this reality talking to the
British government in that reality? Does that exist?
D: I can tell you this much. Britain was overrun by the Nazis.
O: Because I have experienced this - that gives me this
D: I wouldn’t be surprised.
O: If there is anything else - for example I can experience the
bleed through - I can have visions of what is going on - and I
am thinking if I can feel it then there must be the same kind of
experiences between those who have a need to be in power.
K: If you heard my time travel with this individual who has
heard about these individuals who have crossed over back over
here - in other words some of their scientist military people
have been brought over here. They are not dead - they have
crossed over in physical.
D: There is a problem with our culture - because we are really
afraid of death. In fact it is just a change of vibration of
The problem is, I think when we die. Our souls are
captured by an electronic soul machine and we are sent back and
we are completely wiped memory wise. I think that
the Moon is very interesting to study.
There is a soul capture device on the Moon and we continually programmed by the media in movies like
Poltergeist and Ghost to ‘move towards the light’ - the light is
actually part of a soul capture machine that sends us back to be
2009 movie 'Moon' by Duncan Jones shows the game
pretty clearly… maybe you might want to interview
Robert Morningsky about this…
Maybe the best way for humans to dodge
the process is to move away from the apparent holographic
Christ, Mohammed and other religious figures we
typically encounter when we are in the
crossing over phase of
the dead transition experience, i.e. experiencing the bardo.
K: On a more esoteric level though the white - if you want to
wipe your mind you make it all white.
D: But then we acquiesce - we agree to come back.
K: This is changing - partially because of the frequency and
partially because they are coming in not forgetting. Lots of
people haven’t forgotten. I have memories - lots of people are
able to pierce the veil much more.
D: There is a control system between Saturn and the Moon. Saturn
is controlling our time line - but progressively it is going to
be hit by a lot of meteorites - the control system going to be
damaged. It might not lose all its power, but it is going to
lose some of it.
K: Are you aware of the Norman Bergrun research and the ships
that are going in the rings of Saturn (The
Ringmakers of Saturn) and are supposedly on
their way here?
D: I am aware of his work. I don’t know much more than that, but
I am aware that the control system - the Saturn control system
is going to take a beating - this is not a bad thing.
K: Have you heard it said that there is
a special portal on
Saturn into the next dimension?
D: I would imagine so.
K: It may be the key to this other dimensions - certainly it
might be a portal - there seems to be something very special and
very specific to Saturn as a portal into something.
D: Yes, I would imagine so.
O: What are you referring to when you talk about the control
that is in Saturn?
D: Saturn is Chronos - Saturn is there to control our frequency.
It is basically negative.
K: Our perception of time for one thing.
O: Who is controlling it?
D: I would say some reptilian groups. Their aim of which I think
is to dimensional level is to vampirize this whole system.
Imagine you want to become a god - how would you go about it?
You would try to capture other entities and materials and
attempt to feed off them.
To do that you would try to arrange to
get everyone and everybody on the same frequency before
attempting to scoop them up. Eventually you will run out of the
energy that you have scooped up in the process... so you have to
find new victims to prey on. It might explain the Western
‘illuminist’ fixation with time… a case in point the
establishment of Greenwich Mean Time in the UK.
time did not exist in other cultures.
O: So you are hoping that this is what happens?
D: Yes, maybe they won’t capture us this time. Perhaps we will
be able to slip out of the net this time.
O: I listened to a news conference that scientists in NASA did
they were explaining something similar to what you are talking
about. They were talking about some planets in our solar system
being outside of
the heliosphere and how this will affect us.
What you are saying here is that some planets will be outside of
the cone or what I call the heliosphere - interestingly is what
they were talking about - that we won’t have the protection -
you are saying the same thing - some of the planets are going to
be outside of the protection.
D: They are going to be pushed back and they are going to be
damaged by all the incoming stuff that is not in the cone.
K: They say there was time when the Moon was not here.
D: I know that it is semi artificial and that is part of the
control network linked to Saturn. It is hollow - it could
potentially float on water.
K: In terms of what we have been doing here - have you reached a
place where you feel comfortable - or do you want to give more?
D: Maybe some other time I will be in a position to give you
more... Pleasures yet to come…