by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
extracted from 'The Wave - The Green
A recent correspondent wrote:
“In May, this
year, I met Cathy O’Brien and Mark Phillips in Sydney. If what they said in
their book and the two tons of material they possess cannot prove their
story, what can? But for Cassiopeians that is not credible. What sort of
reason they would [O’Brien and Phillips] have in spreading lies?”
As we have already seen, there are a LOT of reasons for the spreading of
lies, though I doubt that conscious, deliberate lying on the part of the
individual involved is the most frequent.
But, before we say anything else,
let’s go back over what the Cassiopaeans really DID say about the Cathy
O’Brien case. In order to have the questions and answers in context, I am
going to insert the particular quote from
Trance Formation of America by Cathy
O’Brien and Mark Phillips 73.
73 O’Brien, Cathy, Phillips, Mark Trance
Formation of America The True Life Story of a CIA Slave, (First Edition
Privately Published in the United States of America by GLOBAL TRANCE
FORMATION INFO, LTD. P.O. Box 158352, Nashville Tennessee 37215, September
1995). Contains photocopied numerous government document title pages.
I did not include it in the original transcript
(for obvious reasons), but feel that the reader will have a better grasp of
what is being said by reading for him/herself.
“...Using standard Jesuit hand
signals and cryptic language, he triggered/switched me and accessed a
previously programmed message. ‘Senator Johnston sent me to give this to
you.’ I handed [governor] Clinton a thin, large brown envelope. ‘And I
have some fairy dust guaranteed to make you fly high.’ I took the
personal stash of cocaine that Johnston was sharing with Clinton from my
Clinton snorted two lines of the coke
immediately. He smiled. ‘Tell Ben I’m impressed.’ He showed me to the
door. The severe torture and mind-control programming that I was
enduring at Tinker Air Force Base had prepared me for this simple
‘mission’ and many others. Although Cox’s out-of control occult serial
killings poly-fragmented my multiple personalities as intended by
[Senator] Byrd, it was Johnston’s alien theme mind conditioning that
locked me into absolute robotic helplessness.
After all, had I been capable of
rationalizing, I would have found that the thought of inter-dimensional
travel and aliens was no more bizarre to me that Cox’s murderous actions
or having found out pornography king Jerry Ford held the office of
“(President) Clinton added to what
Houston said, talking in local colloquialisms. ‘Bottom line is, we’ve
got control of the (drug) industry, therefore we’ve got control of them
(suppliers and buyers). You control the guy underneath ya’ and Uncle
(Sam) has ya’ covered. What have ya’ got to lose? No risk. No one’s
gonna hang ya’ out to dry. And whatever spills off the truck as it
passes through (he laughed and snorted another line of coke) you get to
clean up.’ Hall smiled at his friend, which was apparently interpreted
Clinton motioned for his aide to get his
ledger. Overstreet began pulling out his paperwork, and Hall neatly
cleared the table of the remaining coke lines. Clinton gestured to me
and told Houston, ‘Get her out of here.’ Houston didn’t move and
laughed. ‘She’s a Presidential Model. She’s kept secrets bigger than
yours.’ Hall’s wife led me away and locked me in a back bedroom.
“After an indeterminate period of time, I heard her telephone Hillary at
the guest villa. She then drove me up the mountain through the dark to
meet with Hillary. Although I had previously met Hillary we had very
little to say to each other -- particularly since I was still dazed and
tranced from the tortures I had endured at the CIA Near Death Trauma
Center in Lampe. Hillary knew I was a mind-controlled slave, and, like
Bill Clinton, just took it in stride as a ‘normal’ part of life in
“Hillary was fully clothed and stretched out
on the bed sleeping when Hall’s wife and I arrived. ‘Hillary, I brought
you something you’ll really enjoy. Kind of an unexpected surprise. Bill
ordered her out of the meeting and I took her to my bedroom and made an
interesting discovery. She is literally a two-faced (referring to my
vaginal mutilation carving) bitch.’
“‘Hmm?’ Hillary opened her eyes and sleepily
roused herself. ‘Show me.’ Hall’s wife ordered me to take my clothes off
while Hillary watched. ‘Is she clean?’ Hillary asked, meaning disease
free. ‘Of course, she’s Byrd’s,’ she responded, continuing the
conversation as though I were not there. ‘Plus, I heard Houston say
something about her being a Presidential Model, whatever the hell that’s
supposed to mean.’ “
‘It means she’s clean,’ Hillary said
matter-of-factly as she stood up. I was not capable of giving thought to
such things back then, but I am aware in retrospect that all
Presidential Model slaves I knew seemed to have an immunity to social
diseases. It was a well-known fact in the circles I was sexually passed
around in that government level mind-controlled sex slaves were ‘clean’
to the degree that none of my abusers took precautions such as wearing
“Hall’s wife patted the bed and instructed me to display the mutilation.
Hillary exclaimed, ‘God!’ and immediately began performing oral sex on
me. Apparently aroused by the carving in my vagina. Hillary stood up and
quickly peeled out of her matronly nylon panties and pantyhose.
Uninhibited... Hillary had resumed examining my hideous mutilation and
performing oral sex on me when Bill Clinton walked in.
Hillary lifted her head to ask, ‘How’d it
go?’ Clinton appeared totally unaffected by what he walked into, tossed
his jacket on a chair and said, ‘It’s official. I’m exhausted. I’m going
to bed.’ ”
That was certainly edifying, won’t you agree?
And now you may understand why I didn’t want to either read it into the
record, much less have to retype it from the tape!
So, let’s look at what the Cassiopaeans DID say
Q: (L) I have several things from the little mail list that I
would like to get to first because I think they may go fairly quick. The
first is this book called
Trance Formation of America - The True-Life
Story of a CIA Slave by Cathy O’Brien with Mark Phillips. There is a
rather lengthy quote from this book here that we have all read. I
certainly am not going to read it out loud because I don’t want to have
to type such a thing myself, so I won’t read it, but I am sure you are
aware of what it says. What I would like to know is: what is the
motivation behind the authors of this book?
Q: (L) Disruption of what?
A: Anyone disruptable.
Q: (L) It specifically seems to be aimed at the Clintons or the power
structure. Are any of these descriptions of the behaviors of Hillary and
Bill Clinton as explicated in this extract anywhere near close to
A: Anywhere near? Well maybe, but not as
Q: (L) Is there such a thing as this girl
describes? These CIA slaves that are sexually mutilated and programmed
with this mind control programming that she has described?
A: Any such experiment would be handled by the cellular structure of
pseudo-governmental satellite, not normally by CIA.
Q: (L) So, what you seem to be implying is
that what is described here IS taking place?
A: To an extent, but the story as related is fictional.
So we see that the Cassiopaeans are not
precisely saying that these folks are “spreading lies.” In fact, in a funny
sort of way, they confirmed what O’Brien and Phillips are saying, but added
that the story itself is fictional.
On another occasion, the Cassiopaeans said:
“As you know... fiction is often the guise
for the deliverance of the deepest of truths.”
So, when the Cassiopaeans said above that the
purpose of the book was “disruption”, it may very well be that the efforts
of these people, using whatever “guise” for the message they felt necessary
to protect the genuine source of the information, is to “disrupt” such
programs and to inform the public. And, if even half of it is accurate in
any terms at all, honey, we are in DEEP Trouble!
We must also consider the idea that the defamatory claims made about the
Clinton family, may very well be the work of
COINTELPRO. Obviously, if there
is a network set up to satisfy the “presidential” lusts, Billy Boy wouldn’t
have gotten caught with Monica’s cigar. In retrospect, we might even think
that the backing for Cathy and Mark was the same backing that put
Bush in the White House.
From the proliferation of books and web sites about mind programming, it is
beginning to sound like everybody has been kidnapped and messed with!
Is it REALLY that bad?
Q: (S) I don’t want to sound paranoid, but all the reports about
programming... is it as widespread as we have been lead to believe? That
it could be the guy next door, and a certain color, or word or sound
could set them off? What is the percentage of programmed people?
A: 2 out of every 100.
Q: (L) How many are programmed by human means?
A: 12 per cent of the 2 per cent.
Q: (L) So, out of every 10,000 people, there are 200 that are
programmed, and 24 of these are programmed by humans which leaves 176
programmed by aliens, as in 4th density STS?
A: Understand that 4th density is physical, indeed. You are drifting
further and further toward an ethereal only perception/theoretical
Q: (L) You are saying that the humans working on these kinds of
A: No, Laura, we are saying that there is really a very strong “nuts and
bolts” reality to this phenomenon, and don’t ignore it!
Now, those figures are frightening!
Two percent of the population of the United
States, the last time I read a population figure of 275 million, would be
5.5 million individuals. That means that something like 660,000 of them are
programmed by human agencies. That number is pretty hard to believe.
What are the logistics of mind programming that
If there is any possibility that this number is anything close
to accurate, we have to conceive of some sort of very large and
extraordinary “bureaucratic machine” that handles the coordination and
tracking of such a project. And trying to think of that - well, I suppose it
is not so difficult when you are dealing with “mind programmed” people as it
might be if it were a simple government agency where people spend as much
time complaining and demanding service as anything else.
Maybe mind-programmed people don’t do that?
Maybe they are easier to deal with than the people in the local welfare
But still, we are left with two people out of every hundred. That means that
in any large gathering, there is likely to be one or more programmed
individuals present, and that is NOT a pleasant thought. But I think that,
for the most part, we are talking about people in the public eye or who have
a public presence in politics or the arts and education and so forth.
Yes, there are probably the “Manchurian
Candidate” types who are programmed for special needs, such as causing
riots, mass killings, assassinations, or special missions, and maybe a sex
slave or two just for variety. But for everybody to get paranoid about their
neighbors and family members is going to an inadvisable extreme.
It also points out the fact that out of that 100 people, if there ARE two
who have been “messed with” and the programs have glitches, and they begin
to be deprogrammed, there is not likely to be much support or understanding
from the majority who have no experience with such a reality and will
certainly find it difficult to believe, much less relate to! Yet, they too
For the most part, the other 98 people are programmed as we have discussed
in the previous section - via religion and related popular belief systems,
including “scientific materialism”. Most of these never merit further
programming efforts because the easy, environmental methods and assorted
“Master Programmers” work just fine, thank you very much!
In addition to the more overt “programming” efforts, we have another item to
consider here: Past Life Programming. We have to remember that, with the
time travel capabilities, with the presence in our reality of the “Lords of
Entropy”, for some considerable time, there have been programming influences
throughout many incarnations.
This becomes a very real “program” that one
The following exchange highlights this aspect:
Q: (AM) So many things have happened to me, that I am wondering if
something happened to my brain in this life or another that would
explain my thinking. Did anything happen in another life that has caused
me problems in this life?
A: The answer is yes, as with all others.
Q: (L) What happened to cause these mental
A: Not mental, emotional.
Q: (L) Can you tell us a little bit about
A: Death of a twin in the last lifetime. Farming accident in 1880’s.
Fell off of the ox-driven combine, driven by father. Was decapitated.
Q: (L) And what were their names?
A: Lucas and Lawrence. Lucas was the one that died.
Q: (L) Where was Lawrence, at the time?
A: In the house.
Q: (L) And what kind of emotion has carried
over into this lifetime?
A: Her longing is insatiable as she is
always “looking for love” due to her loss.
Q: (L) How old was Lucas when this happened?
A: 8 years old.
Q: (L) How many years after this accident
did Lawrence live?
A: 22 years.
Q: (L) Have any of the persons of that
lifetime returned to interact with her in this life?
Q: (L) Not even the twin?
Q: (AM) Emotions are not mental, there is a
difference? So, my problems now are emotional and not mental?
A: Your problems are due to maladjustment.
Q: (L) From life to life or just this life?
A: They are the same.
Q: (L) Was there any sense of blame or
resentment directed toward her by the parents of that time?
Q: (L) Was there any mental or emotional
abuse that took place in that lifetime?
A: Maybe some, but it is not significant.
Q: (L) What steps can she take to resolve
A: Awareness of the root of the problem.
Q: (AM) So, all the problems that I had as a
child were the result of this?
A: Some seek an environment of
“punishment” in an attempt to resolve leftover issues.
Q: (L) Did she have feelings of guilt that her twin had died and she was
A: Yes, but this was not imposed by others.
Q: (L) Okay, she felt guilt, and sought an
environment that would punish her?
A: Close enough for hand grenades.
Q: (AM) Let me ask this: all of the
experiences that I had as a child were caused by this emotion where I
was trying to punish myself. I have spent my lifetime trying to punish
myself. Is that right?
A: Close. But remember, the point is, you
sought out an environment that you perceived to be restrictive and
unforgiving. Especially with your father.
Q: (AM) Since you told me about the past life experience, and that all
of my problems have been emotional, have all the mistakes that I have
made been because that is what I INTENDED to do in this life? Were all
the mistakes I have made in this life part of a plan?
A: No. Mistakes are made by choice, plan is
Q: (L) So, she had a blueprint, and the
mistakes were made by choice because she made the wrong choices?
Q: (L) Well, I think that what she is trying
to deal with here is her guilt. She wants to know why she has lived her
whole life making these mistakes and messing everything up every time
she made a choice to do something?
A: Must be specific as to mistakes, always!
Q: (AM) Well, I am not prepared to do that.
A: Not prepared due to “shyness”. Remember,
we told you about the unfulfilled quest for love, acceptance, approval,
and to be “needed”. The reason for the failure of the quest is being
hasty, impatient, and stubborn.
Q: (L) Can I help her to get to the issue
A: She must do this on her own.
Q: (AM) Why have I been so hasty, impatient
A: Because of past life programming. You see this is the challenge for
all those in third density existences. Some learn in any given lifetime,
and some do not!
Q: (AM) But, I had never heard of it!
A: Not necessary. Just follow “the signs”.
Q: (AM) Is it that I am so stubborn that I cannot see?
A: Have been; less so now.
Q: (AM) Well, I’ve never SEEN any signs.
A: That is part of the lesson, but it really should be obvious.
Q: (AM) Well, I can’t think how to ask any more questions...
So, we see that, in this case, an individual had
a past life experience that was so traumatic that it colored her emotions
into this life.
At every point where she made a choice, she
COULD have used her mind to think, but was so deeply stubborn and impatient
that she consistently made decisions based on these deeply “programmed”
emotions, that led further and further into disaster after disaster.
She was so afraid of loving, living in a state
of emotional paralysis, that this had caused her to rationalize that she was
THINKING logically when she avoided emotional involvement! And she
stubbornly resisted anything that suggested that the real problem was FEAR.
Because, of course, she was “denying emotions”, right? Therefore, she didn’t
feel fear, right?
So, she would be “impatient” and jump into
situations to PROVE she was not fearful, all the while the underlying
dynamic was FEAR of LOVE!
Then, when she started to “feel” in any relationship, her mind would freeze
her emotional response, and she would begin to create negative dramas
wherein her demands and behaviors were so completely unloving as to drive
away a saint!
And, when the normal human beings with whom she
interacted did, finally, reject her, she was able to proclaim triumphantly
“See! I predicted it was not love, and now I
am proved right!”
And, of course, in each of these dramas she
created, she chose to believe that everything was done TO her by others
because she had “let her emotional guard down,” and this just further
justified her “logical approach” to life, eliminating love from the picture
So, at a deep level she believed she deserved to
be punished and clung stubbornly to this concept. It was and is a tragic
situation because this individual is now advanced in years and struggling to
come to terms with a lifetime of hurt and harm to both herself and others
due to this “past-life programming”.
Another interesting result of some of the Mind Programming efforts is a
recent proliferation of books by “Pro-Reptoid Experiencers” trying to do
“damage control” in response to the many revelations about
group, possibly even including our own material.
The following is an exchange where we were
discussing just such a volume, which curiously admits to the programming and
genetic engineering of human beings, but giving the ostensible purposes as
being highly “benevolent”. This author, who claims to be a “new Reptoid
hybrid”, also remarks that Bill Clinton is also a “Reptoid Hybrid”!
title of the book is The Ultimate Alien Agenda 74, and you
might enjoy reading my review of it at Amazon.com75!
74 Walden, James,
The Ultimate Alien Agenda
Amazon Reviews written by Madam Arkadiusz Jadczyk
Q: (L) Okay, now, onto this alien book. It seems to be almost a
point-by-point refutation of some of the things you have told us. At the
same time, it is very revealing.
This guy says that,
have developed an array of human programs or life orientations which
they use to create human hybrids. I was programmed to serve others, and
most of my life has been devoted to service as a public official,
educator, and psychic counselor. My life exemplifies one category of
Is it a fact that
the Reptoid aliens are making a
bunch of hybrids to “serve others”?
Q: (L) Another thing he talks about is the underground laboratory, and
he has a terrible time trying to speak about it because of the pains in
his head. He finally gets to the point where he admits that part of the
human “engineering” project, part of what they are doing with the
embryos they create by harvesting human eggs and sperm, is that they use
them for “nourishment”. Naturally, he is aghast at this admission from
his own memory. And somehow he just glosses over it. Is this true? That
some human embryos are being created to provide nourishment for aliens?
A: In a sense.
Q: (L) He never comes back to this specifically, except to vaguely state
that the vats and body parts and all that which are reported by many
eyewitnesses, are merely “symbolic” imagery to teach us how unimportant
the body is... can you comment?
A: Not necessary. We have already stated that the vats do exist and what
they are for.
Q: (L) He further says that the Reptoid aliens have been increasing
human intelligence for these many thousands of years with the intention
of letting go and leaving us on our own. The Reptoids are going to pull
out soon, because they just came to “help us evolve,” and now we are at
the stage we can take charge of things ourselves... Have the Reptoids
been increasing human intelligence? Is this part of their agenda?
A: Perhaps, but the agenda is not as stated.
Q: (L) Okay, he says, “I wonder if the current relationship between
humans and aliens may be analogous to the abolition of slavery in
America. Freedom arises when people accept others rather than being
afraid of them or trying to control them. We may be learning to accept a
technologically advanced interdimensional race, and the aliens may be
trying to transform us into compatible neighbors. Perhaps humans and
aliens will become more alike as time passes and our two dimensions will
become increasingly integrated. They are now allowing us to discover
this information. I believe the aliens are getting ready to reveal who
they are, but first they are helping us to discover who we are. Aliens
may be programming human hybrids like myself to learn through
self-discovery and self-acceptance, and we are likely to learn more
about them as we discover ourselves. Important information about them
may be archived in our minds or implanted in our bodies. To retrieve the
information, we must learn to express the interdimensional aspects of
our being. In other words, we must integrate our human and
interdimensional selves and learn to function in both worlds. I believe
this is how we will eventually establish two-way communication with our
alien creators, and learn to coexist with them.” Blah blah blah. Then he
says that he was created from the genetic material, and soul essences of
three separate individuals. Comments please.
A: No need.
Q: (L) Well, yeah. All of these things have already been covered, which
is why it was so interesting to see such different explanations for the
same observations. He says that his “image is being used to tell people:
wake up human hybrids! It’s time to accept your interdimensional
identity. It’s time to discover your Reptilian heritage and fulfill your
mission!” YUCK! Then he talks about the sexual aspect of abduction. He
wondered why it occurs so frequently.
He thinks there is a link between
the frequency of human sexuality and Reptilian intelligence... he thinks
“this could explain why people so often perceive aliens and their
messengers in sexual roles. So many abductees report having sexual
experiences, in fact sexuality is a common theme of all alien abduction
experiences. Could sexual stimulation be part of the methodology of
A: And the “Playboy Channel” originates on
In another session the following exchange took place:
Q: (L) The whole point of this article (Lyssa Royal) is to say that ET’s
who abduct people are here to help us evolve and that it is only us, if
we have dark and dirty unconscious minds, who perceive them as negative.
A: Wrong, you do not need “help” evolving,
nor does anything else.
I guess this guy is the equivalent of a Madison
Avenue adman for the Drachomonoids!
I do find curious the reference he makes to
“I wonder if the current relationship between humans and
aliens may be analogous to the abolition of slavery in America.”
that even relate? Unless, of course, he is freely admitting that we are
slaves and the aliens are slave masters.
On the other hand, does he mean to imply that
the aliens are slaves and WE are the “slave masters” who are “afraid of and
trying to control” the aliens? Most peculiar. His mixed metaphors are just
further evidence of the confusion factor of these kinds of communications
where the “programmed” individuals seem to be talking out of both sides of
their mouths at once!
Speaking of those
Lively Lizzies and their libidinous appetites, we have
still another factor of our reality that is possibly a side effect of some
singularly distasteful programming, (no pun intended!)
As I wrote in my book Amazing Grace, it was as a result of “looking into” a
local murder case that I became so ill that I was bedridden. During this
time, I began to read about the “alien reality” when Frank brought over a
bag full of books on the subject. On the first day I was out of the house
after this “opening of the doors of perception,” or, at the very least,
“asking the question,” I encountered the woman who was my first “abduction”
And, of course, as I have said, I was pretty
determined to demonstrate that it was NOT an alien abduction - and failed.
This is chronicled in the St. Petersburg Times article pretty well, so I
won’t repeat it here.76
76 French, Thomas,
The Exorcist in Love: A
Tale of Possibilities; (St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Feb 13,
Nevertheless, there was this strange “connection” between this “looking into
the case” of the murdered girl and the arrival on the scene of the woman who
was on my sofa the night all the Flying Black Boomerangs were seen all over
the three county area.
Later, as I have written already, I ran into the same woman running a print
shop when I was looking for a printer for the nascent Aurora Journal.
Now, what I haven’t talked about are some of the details behind that event.
At a time prior to this when I was working with Candy, I had been down at
the local Private Investigator’s office one day talking about Candy’s
situation and we started talking about the above mentioned murder
investigation, which had pretty much been the beginning of the relationship
between the PI and myself.
I asked him if anything new had come up, and he
“No, they were just waiting to see.”
It was the opinion of several of the law
enforcement officials that the guy would “go off” and “do another”.
I thought about it and said I was pretty sure it was a one-time thing.
Unless something really unusual came up, this guy would never kill again.
But the PI felt that he would.
As I left that day, his parting words were,
“All we can do is wait until the pressure
builds up and he HAS to kill again!”
His words stuck in my head.
So, time went by and there I was in the print shop talking to this woman who
had been my first “abductee” two and a half years earlier. The very next day
after this very strange renewal of our acquaintance (and we are going to
call her “Pat”), another girl went missing from the same general area as the
first girl who had been murdered. I picked up the newspaper and saw the
photo of the second girl and nearly dropped my teeth.
She was almost the spitting image of the first
girl! My blood literally ran cold. I remembered what I had said about the
guy never committing a murder again unless something really unusual came up.
What if that unusual thing was another girl who looked exactly like the
At the same time this happened, I was reading a book about UFOs and cattle
mutilations that talked about some cases where “lights in the sky” had been
linked with the cattle mutilations on the ground. I noted that this
particular series of mutilations had occurred in the very same area of the
Ted Bundy lived in at the very time many researchers
conjectured that “something happened” to him to turn him from an ordinary
mild pervert to a cold-blooded killer.
And, of course the reason these two ideas
connected was because I had just finished reading several books about Bundy
which endeavored to explain what is now called the “sociopathic
personality”. I had read these books because of the idea that serial killers
such as Bundy might be attached or “possessed” by one or more discarnate
entities, and I was looking for clues that this was a possible factor in
this particular psychological disorder.
In the book about Bundy, a pretty long section had been devoted to trying to
figure out exactly what it was that happened at a certain point in his life
when he just “switched”, as the author put it. He had the whole world in
front of him; he was a smart guy with charm and looks and wit. He was on a
track to success and then, suddenly, he just “snapped”. And no one knew why
because Bundy himself never could adequately explain it.
So the date of Bundy’s “switch” was in my head when I read about these
lights in the sky associated with cattle mutilations in the same area where
he had disposed of many of the bodies of his victims. I had already wondered
about the possibility that cannibalistic murders, such as those of Jeffrey
Dahmer, might not be influenced by aliens, even if only by example and
exposure to their own “appetites”.
Now, a whole different “connection” suggested
itself to me.
I began to think about the connection of the murder
investigation that occurred just prior to the UFO flap in my own area, and
could it be possible that the individual who had committed THAT murder had
been abducted and programmed to respond to a certain “type” of individual.
Could that be the link between the two girls?
Not only that, but the fact that looking into this case resulted in a
situation wherein I was brought face to face with the alien reality had a
curious effect on me. From “looking into the murder” I was then “looking
into” a deeper level of a control system.
Was there a connection?
I knew I
was stretching it, but I brought it up at the next session.
Q: (L) It has become increasingly obvious to me that there is some sort
of connection where MG [an unsolved murder of a local 13-year-old girl]
was concerned, some synchronous connections between that murder and the
appearance of the Black Boomerang UFOs in this area. And I also noticed
a connection between the life pattern, or change in life pattern, of Ted
Bundy and certain UFO sightings, and cattle mutilations that were in his
area of the country. At that time, I first met Pat and experienced my
own “awakening” to the other reality. Now, we have another girl who has
come up missing at the same time Pat and I reconnected and was actually
discussing the MG case! It is just too bizarre! This new case has a lot
of things that seem to be common to that case. I see that there is an
issue here that I would like to explore. Did my involvement with the MG
case have anything to do with opening the door of my mind to other
phenomena, particularly UFOs and aliens?
Q: (L) You can’t give me a clear answer on that?
Q: (L) Okay. I had dreams about it. The work that I did on the case, the
dreams I had about it, as well as certain impressions I received,
convinced me that a particular individual was the killer. Was that an
opening of my instinctual awareness in some way?
Q: (L) Was there some soul connection between MG and myself?
Q: (L) Was there some connection between MG’s murder and “alien”
A: There is always this connection in one way or another, at one plane
convergence or another.
Q: (L) So, the murder of MG was a “mini-plane convergence”. Can this
mini-plane convergence be described as a point where one person’s
individual plane of reality converges with another person’s plane of
reality, and one or the other gets annihilated?
A: 4th, 5th and 3rd density is involved.
Q: (L) So it is sort of a plane convergence of those three densities. Is
this true with all murders?
A: Discover and yes.
Q: (L) Was my interaction into that reality a sort of entering into a
point of plane convergence?
A: Flirting with the edges.
Q: (L) So, when a person is working on a murder investigation, or
thinking about it, or applying thoughts, talents, instincts or whatever
to the solving of this kind of puzzle, they are interacting with a plane
A: This represents one manifestation of the always-present desire to
return “home” to 5th density.
Q: (L) Okay. Well. Now, I want to get to the 64,000-dollar question. In
the MG case, was my conclusion correct?
A: “Correctness” takes many forms and provides a window to many
conventions. We recall advising a cautious approach, in order to insure
that your lessons are learned not only accurately, but painlessly as
It was true, and I understood it clearly, that
my awareness of the killer did place me in some danger.
But it seemed that the Cassiopaeans were
implying greater danger than just that.
Q: (L) Could you suggest, just to get me on
track here, a form of question that would be a “cautious” question? Then
I can frame subsequent questions on that model?
A: The issue here is not how to “frame” a question in such a way as to
lure us into answering in the way you desire, but for you to learn most
effectively. Do not have prejudice that there is only one thing to be
learned from each response. “You never know what there is to be learned
when you inquire with innocence and freedom from supposition.”
At this point, since Frank and I were working
alone, I played the tape back to find out what the Cassiopaeans had said in
that long delivery.
The tape was full of static and sound anomalies that had
never occurred to us before.
Q: (L) I just played the tape back and it is
all muddy. Could you tell us why we are having this problem with the
A: Telekinetic wave transfer.
Q: (L) What is this telekinetic wave
A: Evolving energy.
Q: (L) Given off by us?
A: Both to and from.
Q: (L) From us to you?
A: You and others, not us.
Q: (L) Who are these others?
A: 4th density eavesdroppers, Pat’s involvement should “heat things up”. Expect anomalies.
That one went right past me!
Q: (L) Okay. Back to the issue. Was there
something about Ted Bundy, and the fact that his life seemed to
disintegrate at the same time a lot of UFOs were sighted, related to
this kind of activity?
Q: (L) Was Ted Bundy abducted?
Q: (L) Was
Ted Bundy programmed to do what
Q: (L) What was the purpose behind that
A: We must withhold answer for the present.
Q: (L) Okay. Bundy described his murdering
urges as a “pressure building inside” him that he couldn’t overcome, and
it seemed to cause him to stop being “human”, as we think of it. That
seems to me to be an example of a program being able to overcome a
person’s social behavior, or controls over antisocial tendencies. Is
this also what happened to the person who killed MG?
Q: (L) Is there a connection between the
newly missing girl and MG?
A: You are doing well in your probing of the
knowledge within on this issue, we suggest continuance, and after all,
learning is fun!
Q: (L) So, it seems to me that there was a
connection between the physical looks of the new missing girl and MG.
Could it be that the individual who killed one or both of them was
programmed to respond to this particular type facial characteristic?
Could that be part of the programming?
A: End subject.
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: We have helped you all that is necessary for now on this matter. It
is beneficial for you to continue on your own for growth.
Q: (L) Can I ask just one or two more LITTLE
questions in a different direction? I mean, this is like walking away
and leaving me in the dark!
A: No it is not! Why don’t you trust your incredible abilities? If we
answer for you now, you will be helpless when it becomes necessary for
you to perform this function on a regular basis, as it will be!!!!
Q: (L) Well, frankly, I don’t want to be
involved in any more murder investigations. It is too upsetting. Am I
supposed to DO this sort of thing regularly???
A: Not same arena.
Q: (L) Well, then how do you mean, “perform this function”?
A: No, seeing the unseen!
So, it seems now, in retrospect, that I was
getting very close to some matters that are essential to know, but MUST be
learned on one’s own.
The Cassiopaeans almost seemed desperate to
prevent me from following this track too directly, or in an improper way,
and their particular remark about “learning lessons painlessly” was
certainly a hint that this was a sensitive subject.
When we look at the questions and answers above, we discover some VERY
interesting things. The first one is, of course, the idea of a “mini-plane
convergence”. I am reminded of the fact that the Cassiopaeans have referred
to the earth as “Convergence point” of The Wave.
That’s one thing to think
about. But the fact that a murder or murders is evidence of a convergence of
5th, 4th, and 3rd densities opened up a whole new area of speculation.
Another thing is the idea that an interest in such matters is not
necessarily prurient, but,
“This represents one manifestation of the always
present desire to return ‘home’ to 5th density.”
But the clue about the face being a sort of “trigger” apparently really was
“close to home,” and deserves some consideration.
Can it be that no murder
is really a “random” event?
Can it be that murderers are “programmed”, even
if at 5th density and prior to incarnation, with some sort of “seed” to
murder that individual who has a certain facial likeness?
And, if that is
the case, how else can facial likeness be used to “trigger” programs?
Are some people “programmed” to choose their mates based on this type of
Whether for good or bad, using those terms loosely, what can this
What if the “right” person is kept away, and the “wrong” person
with the “right” facial characteristics is then “brought in” to trigger the
“love program” to run, thereby causing a serious setback in incarnate plans
Is that another means the Lords of Entropy use to interfere
with our purposes?
And if so, it is indeed important to be able to “see the
unseen”. To see behind the facade, as it were... the
But, there was still another interesting series of remarks in the above
Q: (L) I just played the tape back and it is all muddy. Could you tell
us why we are having this problem with the tape?
A: Telekinetic wave transfer.
Q: (L) What is this telekinetic wave
A: Evolving energy.
Q: (L) Given off by us?
A: Both to and from.
Q: (L) From us to you?
A: You and others, not us.
Q: (L) Who are these others?
A: 4th density eavesdroppers, Pat’s involvement should “heat things up”.
I had spent the day in the company of Pat,
talking about this murder and the new missing person case, as well as
negotiating for the printing of the new magazine, but I really had no idea
how interesting this was going to become!
When I had first met Pat, at the time of the first session described by Tom
French in the St. Petersburg Times article, she had introduced herself as a
“real estate agent” caring for a sick husband who was retired from
“government service”. As we became reacquainted after the passage of over
two years, I learned a lot more about her background. Pat’s husband was, in
fact, a physicist who had been employed by the government for many years and
had even worked on the Mars Observer project in the field of “pattern
Humans have the ability to recognize letters. Whatever fonts are used, no
matter what size, color, style, or whatever, we are able to say, “this is
A”, or “this is B”. If we are asked how we know that this is “A”, it is very
difficult to give an answer. We would say that “A” consists of three
straight lines. But, if they are not straight, but wavy, we still have no
problem discerning that it is “A”. If they are not lines, but a series of
dots, our mind will convert it into an “A” and tell us that it is an “A”
made of dots. Even if the “A” is upside down, we still know that it is an
Now, the idea of “pattern recognition” is to try to teach a computer to do
the same. A computer that is taught pattern recognition for the purposes of
going to Mars would be one that should be able to observe a rock formation
and to be able to tell if it is natural or artificial. It should also be
able to tell if a series of signals of any kind is random or intelligently
Clearly, the purpose also includes the ability to note that stars are stars;
asteroids are asteroids, determining their shape or illumination, and other
But, the most significant idea is this: to be able to note and determine the
presence of an object near or far, for the simple purpose of avoidance in
terms of survival, does NOT require pattern recognition. It only requires
sensory input. The idea that “pattern recognition” is a project for
computers launched into space may suggest that something else is being
looked for, i.e. “artificially constructed” objects!
So, Pat’s husband worked for the space program in the field of pattern
recognition. That was a very interesting revelation when you consider the
UFOs that suddenly appeared all over the area the night I had her under
hypnosis on my living room sofa. But it became more interesting when I
discovered that Pat, herself, had held a security clearance and had worked
in some sort of government installation out West!
Well, that certainly explained why something or somebody was VERY interested
in keeping her quiet!
Pat was very interested in our communications with the Cassiopaeans and
asked to attend a session. After what they had said about her interaction
“heating things up a bit”, I didn’t see any reason why she couldn’t.
It certainly did not sound like a negative thing
that was being suggested, so I agreed.
Q: (L) We have Pat with us tonight...
A: Hello Pat.
Q: (L) Now, with all of us here, we would
like to ask why the black, flying boomerangs showed up on the night Pat
first came for hypnosis?
A: Examine issue carefully.
Q: (L) The first thing we thought about it
was that this was a, if not necessarily rare, at least somewhat rarely
observed type of craft, and the event itself was rare... is this
A: It is rare.
Q: (L) If it is rare for such a “UFO flap”
to occur in response to a hypnosis session, which person were the UFO
occupants particularly interested in?
A: It was not a person, but information that
is hidden in the subconscious memory of Pat.
Q: (L) Were they wanting to get this
A: No. To monitor what would be revealed.
Q: (L) Does this mean that Pat has
information programmed into her before birth that she needs to access as
you have suggested about others? A: No.
Q: (L) They wanted to see if anything would
be revealed about their abductions of her?
Q: (L) Okay, since she is here, can we ask
who abducted her?
Q: (L) How many times has she been abducted?
A: 4. Snow scene was only 3rd density abduction. Abduction, which
occurred there was strictly physical.
Q: (L) Okay, the abduction that occurred in
the snow was a physical abduction. Perhaps the others were no? Were they
A: The others were 4th density. 3rd density
abduction only occurs rarely, and is of great import.
Q: (P) Was my son abducted also?
Q: (L) Why did they want Pat so bad that
they would take her physically?
A: Do you have any ideas?
Q: (L) Yes, I have ideas. Maybe Pat has
ideas and knowledge that she could access to use against these beings?
A: But real reason is more fundamental: Exposure. Government
Q: (L) What we were talking about earlier;
about people who have a family member working for the government, and
that such people tend to be abducted more often. But, just because Pat
was married to a scientist who worked at JPL doesn’t mean she knew
anything herself. I don’t get it. A: Not what she knew. Because of
proximity to Consortium activity. Pat was implanted for possible future
Q: (P) Was this related to what was going on
under the mountain? (L) What mountain? What’s under the mountain? (P)
A: Not locator, personnel are factored.
Q: (L) It was not so much where she was as
who she was in contact with?
Q: (L) Was it her husband?
Q: (L) Maybe that is why there is a higher
rate of abduction among family members of government employees, so that
they can be activated or controlled? (P) But my husband wasn’t really
working on anything secret that I know of. Yes, he had a security
A: He had access to sensitive facilities.
Q: (P) I had a security clearance, too. (L)
So, P had an implant put in. An actual, physical implant. Where is it?
A: Behind sinus cavity.
Q: (L) What is this implant designed to do?
A: Activate behavioral control reflex and thought pattern generation and
Q: (P) Is that why I can’t remember
Q: (P) I do have this memory problem in a
big way. (L) So, can I say that this UFO appeared over my house on the
night Pat was under hypnosis, to reinforce the implant so that she
A: To monitor.
Q: (L) If Pat had revealed the details of
her abduction, would there have been any repercussions?
A: Not in this case.
Q: (L) Are there cases when persons reveal
details of their abductions, that there are repercussions?
Q: (L) So, if Pat had gone to anyone at all
for hypnosis, these craft would have appeared?
Q: (L) You have already told us that this is
extremely rare. (P) Does this have anything to do with Camp David?
A: Not the issue, its personnel!
Q: (L) Was it that she knew someone or
interacted with someone in particular?
A: Many others!
Q: (P) Do the planes have anything to do
A: It is up to Pat, the extent she wishes to retrieve and divulge, the
many unusual experiences that were met, by Pat, with unusual
Q: (P) The first thing unusual was the
geographic location of our house. Directly West of us was the mountain
that housed all the communications to be used in the event of nuclear
war. We were 13 miles North of Camp David. And, while we lived there,
many, many things took place at Camp David that were of global
significance. And, we built a barn in 1982. We had bought the house in
1976, and never, in all the years that I lived there, did I ever notice
these planes until we built the barn. If I had a stick in my hand, I
could have touched them, that’s how low they flew. Right over my barn.
The same days every week. And there were always two of them, and they
never had a single marking on them. And, they were propeller planes. And
I wondered: what in the hell is this country doing flying planes,
unmarked, propeller driven, and so low, over this area? This continued
The Wave Book Three - 22 115 until we moved from that house. So, these
planes came twice a week from 1982 until 1989. (L) What were these
A: Search to learn.
Q: (P) Well, after the first couple of
times, I sort of just said: “Well, there are the planes.” So, what else
Q: (P) I thought the planes had something to
do with the mountain. We knew they were flying under radar. Now, that I
am thinking about this, nobody else ever talked about these planes. It
was like we were the only people that ever saw them, or just the people
who were at our house saw them too. My best friend who lived right up
the road never saw them. I asked her: “Did you see the planes?” and she
said, “What planes?” I mean, she was seven acres away and nothing in
A: Unusual experiences mount!
Q: (P) My husband also noticed these things
and he would always say - he was less indifferent than I was - he would
say: “what in the hell are those planes, and what are they doing?” (L)
Why was Pat so indifferent? (P) Well, it didn’t affect MY life, except
that I was damn mad that it upset my horses. But then, the horses got
used to them too, and they became indifferent! [Laughter] Well, they
came so often, twice a week - “it’s Wednesday, the planes will be here!”
A: More... continue probing...
Q: (P) The planes came from East to West,
and in the West was the mountain...
Q: (P) That is the name of the mountain! (L)
What is it? (P) The tunnel where all these facilities were... under
Catoctin Mountain. Camp David is near, too.
A: And MUCH ELSE! Mount Weather, Virginia. And why did you live in
area... helicopters? What brought you to Maryland?
Q: (P) Fort Detrick. (L) What does Mount
Weather mean? (P) The underground tunnel - everybody in town called it
The Tunnel - but there was nothing around there to ever give anybody the
slightest clue as to what it was. In fact, I lived there for quite a
long time before I knew it existed. And, on top of the mountain there
was a weather station... My husband was doing electron microscopy -
A: REALLY? Helicopters, Pat? We are asking you!
Q: (P) Well, the helicopters in Fredrick
went over our house every time the president was at Camp David. But,
that was our house in Walkersville not in Emmitsburg. When we first
moved to Maryland. Sometimes the helicopters were unmarked...
A: You see, Pat is resistant due to experiences, things don’t “phase”
her easily, programming, etc.
Q: (L) So, all of these things happening
around her, the planes, the mountain, the helicopters... (P) But the
helicopters, I knew it was the President either going to or coming from
A: Resistant, not resisting.
Q: (L) Is the term “resistant” a clue?
A: All is a clue here!
Q: (P) Isn’t that just my personality, that
if it doesn’t affect me I don’t bother with it?
A: Yes. Shoot somebody in front of Pat, and she says: “Oh well, that’s
life” so, to discover spectacular things, one must be patient and probe
carefully, no hasty assumptions, please!! There is much to be retrieved,
revealed, studied. Let Pat digest it, and report back later.
Q: (L) At
the time we had all those sightings around here on the night we did that
session with Pat, why did so many other people see them?
A: Window was
Q: (P) I would like to know about the
apparitions of the Virgin Mary at Conyers, GA, as well as this book
Mary’s Message to the World77 and all the other messages
about the End Times that are coming out all over?
A: The forces at work here are far too clever to be accurately
anticipated so easily. You never know what twists and turns will follow,
and they are aware of prophetic and philosophical patternings and
usually shift course to fool and discourage those who believe in fixed
77 Sparrow, G. Scott, Blessed Among Women
: Encounters with Mary and Her Message, (Harmony, December 1996).
Q: (P) One last question: How could I be used to monitor personnel when
I never noticed anything as being unusual?
A: Very complex, in fact, parallel subject. Pat is a “locator probe” for
the purpose of monitoring those in her midst. Telling is not important,
reading is. Besides, most of the work performed did not involve
Q: Is this still going on?
A: Partly, but also, Pat could be used as a probe to monitor all events
taking place at JPL and other laboratories by examining aural imprints
of her husband and others with whom she was acquainted. All events leave
permanent imprints upon aural energy fields. This explains, for example,
some sightings and apparitions. “Ghosts” are sometimes merely
spontaneous activations of the aural records of the natural
Interestingly, every session Pat attended was
plagued by extreme static on the tape recorder.
This also occurred if I had simply been in her
presence for any period of time on the same day as the session was held.
This had never happened with our tape recorder before, and every effort to
solve the problem failed. We even tried using a back up recorder, and it
failed to record at all.
But, note the most interesting remark above that “Pat is a ‘locator probe’
for the purpose of monitoring those in her midst. Telling is not important,
reading is. Besides, most of the work performed did not involve conscious
That tells us a bit about how people can be used without their conscious
awareness. Apparently, a person can be implanted with a particular device
that simply is “read” at a distance by either human or alien personnel.
What is even more interesting is,
“Pat could be used as a probe to monitor all
events taking place at JPL and other laboratories by examining aural
imprints of her husband and others with whom she was acquainted. All
events leave permanent imprints upon aural energy fields.”
This seems to be saying that there is some sort
of 4th density technology that can read the “aural imprints” of other people
in such precise terms that it even “knows” where they were and what they
Now, THAT’S creepy! It made me realize a very important thing: even if I
like or love someone, even if they are totally innocent in conscious terms,
they can be used to monitor me or even vector energy in my environment that
is harmful. That opens a wide door to manipulation and control in our lives.
We can be manipulated to invite someone into our lives who is nothing but a
tool to be used against us.
And the tragedy is, they can be totally and
completely innocent! THAT hurts!
And, I would like to add another thing about the above case: there is, more
or less, independent corroboration of what the Cassiopaeans were saying
Clearly, there was EXTREME interest in her from some other
“levels of reality”, as was evidenced by the numerous sightings of Flying
Black Boomerangs that BEGAN at exactly the time she was under hypnosis on my
sofa. That is an incontrovertible fact, reported by numerous witnesses, and
written up in the St. Petersburg Times.
Thomas French wrote about it in his
“The newspaper and TV were reporting
multiple sightings of UFOs in the area. From mid to late April in 1993,
more than a dozen people in Pasco, Hernando and Pinellas counties said
they had seen a large, boomerang shaped craft moving across the sky. One
of the witnesses, a Hernando County sheriff’s deputy, said the craft
carried no markings, was adorned with blue lights and had a wingspan of
at least 200 feet. He watched it for several minutes, he said,
before it accelerated away from him at a speed that would have been
impossible for any human-made craft.
“‘Based on what I know now, no, I
don’t think it’s from this planet,’ the deputy told a St. Petersburg
Times reporter. ‘Nothing on Earth could hover and haul ass like that.’
“...The first alleged sighting of the boomerang-shaped craft had been
made in New Port Richey on the evening of Thursday, April 15, the same
night she [Laura] was conducting her hypnosis session [with Pat]. The
person who had seen the object that night lived only six blocks or so
from Laura’s house; she said she had seen the craft through her bedroom
window after 10 p.m. that evening, after L.A. Law came on. ...The
witness claimed that she had seen the giant boomerang at the exact time
Laura was deep into her session; in fact, she said she’d seen it
hovering over Laura’s own neighborhood.” 78
78 French, Thomas,
The Exorcist in Love: A
Tale of Possibilities; (St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Feb 13,
So we have a certain form of validation.
But, of course, as I have said, at the time I
had no idea of the significance since I did not know of the government
connections of my subject. My feeling at the time was that the boomerang
craft appeared just to “scare me away” from the subject matter of UFOs, or
to “get my attention”. That was a little bit egotistical, in retrospect.
And after learning of Pat’s background, the
whole incident, including the accompanying UFO flap, made more sense.
Indeed, it does seem that Pat had information that somebody, or some THING,
did NOT want me to access! And, we are left with the problem of HOW such
knowledge was communicated to these unknown beings?
As I pointed out to another researcher, futurist, Mike Lindemann, the kind
of surveillance that was implied by the knowledge that I was going to do
that hypnosis session, particularly when nothing about aliens or abductions
was ever mentioned, would be predicated upon mind reading! If we are going
to postulate that it is some sort of “Secret Government” that is behind the
UFO phenomenon, then we must allow for this “mind reading” technology.
And, if our government possesses and uses it, WE
ARE ALL SCREWED! Which is, of course, a distinct possibility!
But there is another kind of “tool” in the alien bag of tricks: Robots. This
is a subject that was mentioned briefly in
The Ra Material 79, though that
group never came back to the subject as far as I can tell:
79 Elkins, Don, McCarty, James Allen, Rueckert, Carla, The Law of One:
Book I, The Ra Material by Ra, An humble messenger of The Law of One,
Copyright 1984, (Ra Session #12, January 28, 1981)
Q: Is an entity
in the fourth density normally invisible to us?
Ra: ...The fourth density is, by choice, not
visible to third density. It is possible for fourth density to be
visible. However, it is not the choice of the fourth density entity to
be visible due to the necessity for concentration upon a rather
difficult vibrational complex, which is the third density you
Q: Are there a Confederation or Orion [STS]
entities living upon the Earth and operating visibly among us in our
society at this time?
Ra: There are no entities of either group
walking among you at this time. However, the crusaders of Orion [STS]
use two types of entities to do their bidding, shall we say. The first
type is the thought-form; the second, a kind of robot.
Q: Could you describe the robot?
Ra: The robot may look like any other being. It is a construct.
Q: Is the robot what is normally called the
“Men in Black”?
Ra: This is incorrect.
Q: Who are the “Men in Black”?
Ra: The “Men in Black” are a thought-form type of entity, which have
some beingness to their make-up. They have certain physical
characteristics given them. However, their true vibrational nature is
without third density vibrational characteristics and, therefore, they
are able to materialize and dematerialize when necessary.
Unfortunately, no further questions were asked
However, the Cassiopaeans did expound on this
subject to some extent. We already have talked about the “Grays” being
“cybergenetic probes” of the Reptoid beings, and there is a great deal of
discussion of this aspect in my book,
The High Strangeness of Dimensions,
Densities, and the Process of Alien Abduction.
What we want to talk about
here is something a bit different.
The subject of “robots” was brought up in response to some questions about
Roswell and the alien autopsy video. It is not the time or place to engage
in a lengthy debate about either Roswell or the much contested video, as
that would be time consuming and counterproductive to my intention of
getting back to the subject of The Wave. I do intend to cover the Roswell
subject more thoroughly at another time. For the moment, just let me make a
I recently had a conversation with an individual who is fairly certain that
all of the so-called “alien activities” are merely “planted” memories or
perceptions devised by any number of Secret Government mind control projects
somewhat akin to what was revealed in the Greenbaum lecture.
It is thought by many who take this view that
Andrija Puharich were the brains behind
the technology that could produce the effects I have described above in my
own experience with the “abductee and the black boomerangs”.
I had researched the Black Boomerangs and discovered that they were not all
that usual, but at the same time, they DID have a history that made me give
the matter some thought. As I pointed out in Book One in relation to the
Black Boomerangs, the earlier sightings and relationships were so similar to
my own as to suggest something altogether different. They were sighted as
far back as 27 years before my own experience with seemingly no change in
model and design.
So, as I suggested there, if it IS a Secret
Government project, those boys in Black Ops have no imagination at all!
Still using the same model!
But, more seriously, how does one relate the idea of a
project based on Tesla and Puharich technology to all the many sightings of
UFOs and clearly alien-type beings throughout the past two millennia or
It seems that some of such interpreters want to make a distinction
between those incidents of the distant past, and everything that has
occurred since Kenneth Arnold followed by Roswell. My contention is that it
is the SAME phenomenon wearing a new suit of clothes as I have explicated in
History did not begin with Tesla, Puharich, or the Secret Government, and I
could cite many cases from the past here that would demonstrate clearly that
we are dealing with the same phenomenon.
Now, of course, I say to those individuals who claim that the whole scenario
of the present day IS part of some mind control project that has evolved out
of technology discovered in this century, if that is the case, then they
must also allow
Time Travel capabilities to this same
Secret Government to explain many of the related and/or similar historical
events. And, if they do that, then we are really in not much different shape
than if it WERE alien beings that can come in and out of our reality via
hyperdimensional space, and the argument becomes moot.
There are many problems with
Roswell story, which are touched on by the following excerpts,
not to mention the many arguments against the Alien Autopsy film
revealed to the world by Ray Santilli.80
80 The Alien Autopsy film is steeped in
severe controversy. It alleges that the US government undertook and filmed
an autopsy of an alien that had crashed in the Roswell vicinity on June 2,
1947. The 50 year old film canisters came into the possession of Ray
Santilli from a freelance photographer of the 1950’s. (http//www.mufor.org/gehrman1.htm)
One of the rather naive arguments against the
Autopsy film was that, if the government had REALLY captured alien beings,
they would have engaged a “competent” camera man, or would have engaged the
“finest scientific minds” and done the autopsy in the dissection theater of
some large university, and certainly would not have had such inept hands
handling something of such great, scientific and historic import.
Well, let’s get real here!
If you are a small group of power-mad control
freaks functioning in the darkness of secrecy, who are you going to get to
do this kind of work? Somebody with an international reputation and no fear
of you, who would go to the press first thing next morning, or somebody over
whom you have some control by intimidation?
I vote for the latter, myself. And, if that is the case, then your options
Obviously, such a group did not plan to have a
crashed UFO with bodies, or they would have been prepared with proper
personnel and equipment in advance. But, once the event was in their hands,
the best and only option would be to involve only those people who could be
relied upon to keep their mouths shut for any number of reasons, including
the fact that some life shattering secret about their lives could be held
over their heads to keep them “in line”.
And, if that is the criteria for selecting the person to do the autopsy and
the film, then obviously, you don’t have a wide selection that matches the
So, we can dispose of the idea of the “camera man” even being
a competent handler of the equipment he had available, and can also
conjecture that the whole “Camera Man Story” was a deliberate ruse from the
very beginning. Therefore, those who have pursued that avenue of potential
“revelation” are essentially following a red herring from the start.
As to the competence of the autopsy itself, the “crude handling and
procedures”, the same rule would apply. If you are part of a secret
organization that was not really prepared for such an occurrence, then you
just do the best you have with what you’ve got. So, you don’t have a great
surgeon or anatomist handy to do “the autopsy of the millennium.”
Maybe all you have is a mad scientist who you
have rescued from Nuremberg, and who spent the war butchering little
children. Well, that’s what you’ve got. You find the best “secured location”
you can get, send for your little team of guys who you know you can control
because they have some really dark secrets of their own, and send ‘em in to
Now, just suppose, some years later, a few members of this “Secret
Government” that thought it was in charge of the whole situation, discover
that they are NOT at the top of the food chain. And maybe they discover that
things are much further out of control than they ever imagined it could be,
and they get really scared? Well, what are they going to do? They have to
figure out some way to set the situation up so that when the doo doo hits
the oscillating vector, there just might be an “out” for them. So, they
hatch a plan to release information via various “doorways”.
Suppose Ray Santilli is one of those doorways?
Under such circumstances, dealing with such hidden controllers, do you think
for a minute that Ray is going to cave in and say ANYTHING other than the
story cooked up by the “Black Ops” guys? Nope. Don’t count on it! In such a
case, he would behave exactly as he HAS behaved. He cannot do otherwise. And
I repeat: CANNOT.
Having said all of this, let’s have a look at some of the Cassiopaeans’
comments about Roswell and the Alien Autopsy film:
Q: (L) Now, we have a problem here with Roswell. I just finished reading
Kal Korff’s book Roswell: What They Don’t Want You to Know 81,
and it is pretty much a bashing expose of lies and confusions spread,
supposedly, by the many witnesses who have come forward over the years.
He takes Jesse Marcel apart, he takes
the fireman’s daughter’s story apart; he rips the undertaker’s story to
pieces; he takes
Phil Corso’s story apart; you name
it, he bashes it to bits.
81 Korff, Kal K.,
The UFO Crash at
Roswell, What They Don’t Want You to Know, (1997).
Pretty effectively, too, in my opinion. He
seems to have located the origin of the “little sticks with
hieroglyphics on them” seen by several of the so-called witnesses. This
is a SERIOUS problem with this whole story. The problem is that, despite
the fact that all the stories have been dissected by this guy so
effectively, there ARE things he cannot account for, and explanations
that he makes that simply don’t fit his thesis.
On the one hand, he claims that the Roswell
base people instituted a cover-up of a top-secret balloon project, and
on the other hand, he says that the Roswell base did not KNOW about the
top-secret balloon project because it was so secret! That is completely
irreconcilable. Then he quotes a general’s written statement that
something WAS going on that had something to do with alien interactions,
and dismisses this signed statement as “hearsay.”
The thing that occurs to me is that
either we have somebody going back and
forth in time, tweaking the facts, such as Marcel’s military records
and such things including any records of the nurse that the
undertaker claims to have talked to
we have something that did happen and
either they went back in time to set a situation up so that people
would start remembering something OTHER than what happened, so as to
cover up the real event with more or less “false memories” that
could be not stand scrutiny
they are just feeding disinformation
through all of these people, and have produced a whole scenario with
all kinds of witnesses and weird stuff to cover up something that
Could you comment on this?
A: Try scenario 3.
Q: (L) So, they are feeding disinformation through all the so-called
Q: (L) To cover up something that really did
Q: (L) And they are feeding the
disinformation through the people so that they will come out with this
whole story, make all this big splash, so that it can THEN be proven
false, so that everybody will think that the whole thing was a crock of
kaflooey. Is that it?
A: Not quite. Confusing stories and fabrications are used to muddy the
waters in anticipation of future disclosures. And beware of authors who
cast one stone and hit multiple targets. As with any conspiratorial
mystery, keep focused on the earliest entries in the evidentiary train,
i.e. “RAAF recovers flying disk in Roswell region.”
Q: (L) Oh, the newspaper headlines. Yes.
Hmmmm... Terry was saying that he thought the Roswell business was a
cover-up for space-time travel by some secret U.S. group.
A: No. Roswell did involve evidence of non-human intelligence.
Q: (L) I just can’t understand some things.
When these researchers get out there and they start digging into things,
and this happens over and over again, they don’t dig deep enough...
A: Kennedy was assassinated by everyone...
according to the myriad researchers, so called.
Q: (L) So true. You read one “carefully
researched” book, and there is one candidate for the assassin. You read
another “carefully researched” book and there is another candidate. By
the time you get done reading all the books, everybody in the country is
implicated! At the very least, everyone present in Dealey Plaza had the
opportunity. (F) They keep on searching. But, if you go back to the very
beginning, that is where the clues are. Right away, there were reports
of shooters on the “grassy knoll.” The very early evidence gathered from
those present was completely ignored and washed away as “irrelevant” or
“misperception.” (B) There were people ducking and diving for cover
because of their awareness of the source of the bullets! (L) Yes, but
all that is just brushed away as panic or whatever because, of course,
Oswald did it! And, handily, Oswald gets blown away by Jack Ruby so he
can never talk, for sure! (F) And Jack Ruby died of cancer without
talking to anyone except Dorothy Kilgallen, who then decided that it was
the best time to commit suicide, right after interviewing Jack Ruby...
naturally, before she ever wrote a word about it. (L) Is there any trail
we could follow that would enable us to obtain a more definite
indication of what really DID go on in the Roswell case?
A: There is no “proof” or evidence unless
the perceiver is willing.
Q: (F) Yeah. It’s the same story with the
abduction experience. They have now discovered that if you put somebody
in a sensory deprivation chamber and subject them to EM waves of some
sort, they will report the same thing. So, let’s just ignore the
physical traces of alien interaction, not to mention history! Let’s
forget all that and pronounce that, “See? We have tested these other
people in tanks, under waves, and that proves that this is the only
thing going on here!”
Q: (L) Now, in regards to Kal Korff’s book82, you have said
that my scenario about the different stories, the various witnesses,
whoever is behind the cover-up is just feeding disinformation through
all of these people and have produced a whole scenario with all kinds of
witnesses and weird stuff to cover up something that happened, and that
this is the closest to being correct, I would like to know how close,
and just how they are feeding disinformation through all of these
witnesses. Obviously, these people believe what they are saying.
A: They do.
82 Korff, Kal K., ibid.
Q: (L) Why do they believe?
A: They are telling what they remember, but it is soaked in twisting
Q: (L) Are the people doing this themselves?
A: No. Event mixture. There was more than one “crash in the vicinity” of
Roswell, and at different times. The four-body scenario refers to the
incident most frequently cited.
Q: (L) How many were there?
Q: (L) There were three in the July period?
A: June/July. June 4th, July 1st, and July 4th. This explains the famous
news release because the base was abuzz due to all these occurrences.
Q: (L) It seems to me that if the base were
already abuzz with these occurrences, they would already have had their
cover organized and their stories straight! In such a case, the famous
news release would never have happened.
Q: (L) But they all seem to remember this
July 4th crash, or so they say.
A: Yes. But events were intertwined.
Q: (L) So, some may have witnessed different
A: Parts of...
Q: (L) Have they also been tampered with in
terms of abduction or having implanted memories or screen memories?
Q: (L) Have they, in any way, been exposed
to something that was falsely staged by the government in order to make
Q: (L) So, they are all sincere and honest
witnesses, but they are witnesses to different events, and they all
think that they are witnesses to the same event?
A: The so-called suspicious circumstances are merely a patchwork,
cleverly used by those who wish to conceal.
Q: (L) For example: did the fireman actually
go to a crash site and witness what his daughter claims he witnessed?
Q: (L) Was it an alien craft crash site?
Q: (L) Did Jesse Marcel witness a crashed
A: Pieces of one.
Q: (L) Did Glenn Dennis really talk with a
nurse who later disappeared?
Q: (L) How did this woman disappear? Kal
Korff could find no record of her existence.
A: (L) Transferred, discharged, records expunged.
Q: Is she dead?
Q: (L) Did she die under suspicious
Q: (L) Did the little balsa wood pieces
actually come from a toy company as Korff suggests?
A: No. Kal Korff was paid to mislead, but it
is now moot as the military changed its story yet again after his book
Q: (L) One of the things that Kal Korff did
was to dig into Jesse Marcel’s background, and he claims that Marcel
never had any of the background that he claimed, and that Jesse Marcel
is basically a liar. He has the military records to back him up on this.
Were Marcel’s records altered?
A: Jesse did not lie.
Now that we have an idea that there is more to
Roswell than we might have initially thought, let’s see about the Alien
Autopsy and how it may relate.
Q: (L) Earlier today, at the MUFON meeting in Clearwater, there was a
speaker who proposed that the Vedic idea of who and what the Lizard
Beings were is that this is the activation of the sexual principle, or
kundalini within us. Any kind of UFO or alien activity is merely the
reflection of what is inside all of us. Is this a correct assessment?
A: In truth, the best way to most adequately
answer those questions is to ask yourself what do you believe, based on
the knowledge that you have collected and have been given.
Q: (L) Well, I sometimes wonder if they are
not part of ourselves, in a parallel universe, and they emerge into our
world and interact with us in a negative way. And, that the historical
stories of alien/human interaction are really just stories of human
performance of mechanical operations, guided by negative aspects of
their own being in another dimension or density. Would this not be a
A: Not in the sense that you are thinking. Remember, it is always wise
to review ALL of the previously gathered information whenever any new
ideas appear before you. This is true not only in this particular
instance, but also all others as well. For example, how often would mere
thought patterns, or realities emerging from a parallel universe, appear
in desert locations and be retrieved by third density beings for study
in the third density realm? Now, if indeed you believe that this has
happened, and it HAS, one must contemplate the meaning of such and how
it relates to one’s proposal that the whole issue involves much higher
levels of density on the etheric plane, and, or, inter-dimensional
capabilities that cannot be measured within the realm of third density.
These theories, certainly, are part of the answer, but merely a part of
the answer, and none of them represents the entire answer. And we
caution very strongly that you avoid falling into the trap of believing
too strongly in any one explanation that appears, as this too, is a form
of attack which can lead to destructive consequences.
Q: (L) So, there are
actual, material, alien
craft that have been captured or retrieved by the government and
A: Do you have any doubt of this?
Q: (L) Well, sometimes I wonder if the whole
thing is cooked up by the government just to make us all crazy!
that’s an interesting concept, but we can assure you, that that is not,
in any way, correct.
Q: (L) Well, if these craft emerge into our
reality from fourth density, as I assume some of them do, how do they
stay here? Do they become absolutely physically material and do they
A: If they malfunction in third density, they then become frozen in
third density. Very simple.
Q: (L) And, does the same hold true for the
Q: (L) So, they are very real and
A: They are very real and physical in
fourth density, too. The
difference is that fourth density physicality is not the same as third
But that is not to say that there is no
physicality in fourth density.
In order to completely remove all attachment to
physicality, one must reach sixth density or higher.
Everything below that
involves some aspect of physicality or attachment to physicality; as in
fifth density, the contemplation zone, which is simply a recycling of those
from 1st through 4th densities, in the etheric plane. They are brought back
down and recycled into one of the physical realms.
density level one through four, involves
lesser and lesser physicality, as you know it, but nevertheless there still
is physicality. Third density physicality, however, remains constant on
third density. When a being or a craft or an instrument of any kind
manufactured or conceived in fourth density arrives in third density, it is
able to navigate through third density in fourth density reality. However,
when it malfunctions, whatever is left of it remains in third density.
Those reports of objects or of any physical
structure whatsoever, be it a being or a construct, disappearing from third
density to fourth density, in each and every case, involves an object or a
being, or a construct, which is not in the process of malfunctioning. It is
still fully operational at its fourth density realm. It is merely visiting
third density which has a limited capacity, as you measure time in its
passage, therefore it does, indeed, remove itself naturally, at some point,
to fourth density.
However, if it malfunctions or is in any way
broken or altered, it will remain in third density.
Q: (L) So, if someone removes an implant,
the best way to keep it here would be to smash it?
A: If someone removes an implant it is no longer functioning as it was
designed to function.
Q: (L) Okay. So we have some real things happening, and a possibility
that a film was taken of this interaction with these malfunctioning
fourth density beings and craft. And, supposedly, this film is going to
be shown on television. Is this film of this autopsy, and examination of
craft remains, a true filming of same, or is it a fake, or fraud?
A: Well, one would suggest that for the
maximum amount of learning, that the film be witnessed by those seeking
the truth, in order to determine for themselves whether or not it is
factual, as such will be possible upon viewing.
We took a break
to watch the 'Alien Autopsy' film...
Q: (L) Well, on the subject of abduction: we watched the film on
television, Monday the 28th, that was a purported video of an alien
autopsy, or, more correctly, an autopsy on an alien body. Was this, in
fact, an alien?
A: How do you define “alien”?
Q: (L) Was it a being other than a naturally born human on this planet,
as we know human beings?
A: That is correct.
Q: (L) It was other than a naturally born
human? In other words, it was not a deformed human?
Q: (L) Okay. What kind of a being was this?
Q: (L) What was it a hybrid of - combining
A: Cybergenetic creatures you refer to as “Grays”, and earth human such
as yourself, third density. So, in essence, it was a hybridization of a
3rd density and 4th density being. It was a 3rd and 4th density being.
Q: (L) How can a being be both 3rd and 4th
A: It is the environmental surroundings that count, not the structure of
the individual. The same is true, for you. After all, you have read
literature stating that your world or planet is in the process of
ascending from 3rd to 4th density. Have you not?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: And this literature has also stated that this is an ongoing process,
has it not?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: Then, one must wonder, if it is an ongoing process, how would it be
possible, if it is not possible, for a being to be in both 3rd and 4th
density at one time... Also, if you will recall from review material,
you are currently living in the same environment as 2nd and 1st density
level beings. Is this not true?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: At least that is what you have been told. So, therefore, it is
possible for a being to be in 3rd and 4th density. And as we have also
told you, when 4th density beings visit 3rd density environment, they
are, in effect, 3rd density beings, and vice versa. The so-called
abduction takes place, especially if it is a physical abduction, the
subject becomes temporarily 4th density, because it is the environment
that counts. And the key factor there is awareness, not physical or
Q: (L) I have a paper here that talks about
the Grays and says that they have two brains: an anterior brain and a
posterior brain; and that if you shoot one - this is what it says, I am
not suggesting that I want to shoot anybody - that if you shoot one, and
only shoot one part of the brain, that it does not die; that you have to
shoot it in a special way and get both brains in order to kill one. Is
this a correct concept?
A: Well, it is rather puzzling. Brings up a lot of questions. One
question that comes to mind is: why would one seek to shoot anything?
Q: (L) Well, I didn’t suggest that I wished
to, this is just what this paper says here.
A: The physical description is accurate in terms one variety of what is
referred to as the Grays. It does have an anterior brain. However, this
is secondary to all other issues. And, also we would suggest that it
would not be advisable to seek to cause physical harm to any particular
species. Therefore, it may be advisable to disregard the information
contained in the work that you are describing.
Q: (L) It also says that the Grays have to be very close to a person to
telepathically link with that person. Is this correct?
A: Close? No, as we have described to you
before, there are technological processes involved, which do not require
close physical proximity as you measure it.
Q: (L) It also says that they implant some sort of crystal on the optic
nerve of humans that is 2 to 4 microns in diameter and that this crystal
is tuned to the frequency of the individuals implanting it, which allows
them to establish a mental frequency for communication. Is that anywhere
along the line of what you are talking about?
A: Physical implantations do occur. The precise locations vary according
to the desired effects. And when it comes to the interactions between
the human species in 3rd density, and other STS issues in 4th density,
there are a variety of mechanisms in use as well as a variety of
directives and objectives. For example, some implants are used merely
for tracking. Others are used to alter consciousness, and still others
are designed to be mind altering or motor altering mechanisms. Each of
these has a different structure and a different material content
according to which is being employed and for what purpose. The
particular function you are describing there has been used, or, rather,
something similar, though we are not completely familiar with that which
you have described; so, we suggest that this may be fabrication to some
extent, or expansion of accurate information. But, in any case, it is
true that implants do get implanted for various reasons.
Q: (L) Shifting gears back to the alien autopsy: can you access the
information and indicate whether this hybrid being was one that was
obtained from a crash that occurred
at Roswell, New Mexico in 1947?
A: The crash did not occur at Roswell. It
was in a desert area, approximately 157 miles to the West by Northwest,
of the Roswell location. The Roswell location that you are familiar with
did not include either a craft or any bodies or living beings. It was
merely a debris field. The craft, which had malfunctioned over Roswell,
thus leaving behind the debris field, had, in fact crashed some distance
away. This is where the bodies and living beings were recovered along
with what was remaining of the craft. And, yes, the being in the film
you have seen DID come from there.
Q: (L) Now, switching gears: while watching the alien autopsy film, we
saw a massive organ that occupies the whole center of the abdominal
cavity. What was that?
Q: (L) (S) A combination of both in one?
Q: (L) They also carefully removed a solid or hard object that they then
put in a small container. What was this object?
A: Crystal transceiver.
Q: (L) What was all the loose matter?
A: Organic tissue. Not important.
Q: (L) Was it a female or a male?
A: Both and neither.
Q: (L) Was it a being that could reproduce sexually?
Q: (L) What kind of nourishment was required by that being?
A: Saline gelatin globules. Applications using biological microforms to
metastasize through primary glandular channels.
Q: (L) Did that being use oxygen as in breathing?
Q: (L) Where were the lungs?
A: Side of torsal cavity.
We obtained a copy of the British TV version of
the Autopsy and watched it numerous times, after which we came back and
asked more questions.
Q: (L) I want to talk about the Roswell video that we’ve all watched.
Now T continues to insist that it was not Roswell, that it’s a phony
video. He just can’t get into it. This is also the consensus of the UFO
community at large, due to the lack of cooperation of Ray Santilli. I
would like to know if that video is of alien beings that were retrieved
from the crash referred to as “Roswell” even if we know it did not take
place precisely AT Roswell?
Q: (L) OK. Why did so many people report seeing aliens that had only
four fingers and [toes], you know, like the standard grays? The being in
the film had six fingers and toes.
A: Multiple subjects.
Q: (L) OK, so there were more than one type of alien on that one craft?
Q: (L) OK, the story that came from the
“camera man” who shot the video was that there were these four beings
outside the craft. One was dead, and three were standing outside the
craft, crying and clutching boxes to their chests. What were those
A: Storage of translation matrix group to individual; emotion
Q: (L) What is a Translation Matrix?
A: Translates foreign thought patterns, not needed except in emergency
loss of electromagnetic grid wave.
Q: (L) OK, what is an emotion stabilization
unit used for?
A: Variety of uses, mostly for survival by neutralizing
thoughts of harm by emotionally charged beings, not accustomed to
shocking turn of events.
Q: (L) Were the harmful thoughts that they were
designed to neutralize, thoughts emanating from other beings?
Q: (L) Well, they didn’t work very well, did
A: Did not have chance to activate.
Q: (L) OK, so if they had had the
opportunity to activate these boxes, they would have been more or less
able to extricate themselves from this unpleasant situation?
A: Not extricate, lessen negative aspects.
Q: (L) OK, how many beings were in this
particular craft that crashed?
Q: (L) How come the reports say there were
A: Reports are suppressed and fragmented, as far fewer individuals
witnessed interior of craft!! Also, some reports are of other incident.
Q: (L) OK, now of the 21 that were in the
craft that was captured, so to speak, there were four outside the craft
when it was approached, is that correct?
Q: (L) Then that would mean that there were
17 inside... Of these 21 beings, how many were grays, the standard gray
lizzie-probe type being?
Q: (L) Were there other kinds of beings in
Q: (L) There was one human in there also?
Q: (L) There were 5 humans inside, so we
have... Why were those humans in the craft?
A: Retrieval and study specimens, two big foot types.
Q: (L) Does that mean that the humans that they had in there were
retrieval and study specimens, or otherwise known as abductees?
Q: (L) Oh, they were dead humans. Wonderful!
It just gets uglier and uglier! Did they abduct them dead? Or did they
abduct them alive?
Q: (L) Did they abduct them alive and then
Q: (L) Were they dead as a result of the
Q: (L) Well, then, what’s the story here, I
mean, what other choices do I have?
A: Retrieved. Picked up after expiration.
Q: (L) OK, so they picked up dead bodies, is
Q: (L) You said that there were two big foot
types: were the big foot types also dead?
Q: (L) You said that there were five dead
humans inside that were retrieval and study specimens. Where did they
get these bodies?
A: Mexico and South America.
Now, let’s insert here a segment from another
session wherein a particularly bizarre series of remarks were made which
prompted me to ask a certain question that we will come back to shortly.
the following excerpt, we had a guest, TK, who was retired from the Navy:
Q: (L) TK does have a couple of questions he would like to ask, and one
of the questions is: has he himself ever been abducted by aliens?
A: Complex. Ships are vulnerable to ELF and
“Zero Time Transfer”.
Q: (L) So, are you suggesting that any
abductions that took place, took place while he was on board a ship?
Q: (T): What did you serve on, what kind of ships? (TK): AEGIS Cruiser,
I was just on one ship, that was just the last five years or so... (T)
Were his abductions... did they take place while he was on the ship, on
A: We see “Bahrain”.
Q: (TK) We were only in Bahrain one night.
A: Examine. You must remember, different
branches of your military services have underlying code mechanisms to
determine their classification status for “secret” duty, including study
of personnel, this is all very complex... Now, “U.S. Navy is status 2”,
which means among other things, that it is married to a class 2
“Cooperation Agency”, the O.N.I. All technical personnel are approached
during their service, and asked to perform tasks for Secret Government.
If they accept, they are “brought under classified management”.
Q: (L) That was the answer to the question,
why was he abducted? (J) Or was he abducted at all?
A: Examined, as with all others on ship.
Q: (T) Was the Navy aware of what was
A: Segmented. Some know and some don’t. Some in Navy are cooks.
Q: (T) That’s what Steven Seagal said in
[the film] Under Siege - “I’m just the cook, you know!” He wasn’t really
a cook. (TK) The funny thing is, I WAS a cook in the Navy in the
beginning... (T) OK, you gave us some information about Navy being
connected to Navy In intelligence (L) Are all military personnel
routinely abducted and studied by aliens?
Q: (L) Are all military personnel routinely
abducted and studied by the
Q: (L) What is the classification that the
person has to fall into in order to be abducted and studied by the
A: What makes you think “classifications” correlates with abductions?
Q: (TK) It’s not the classification, it’s...
it’s got to be the type of person...
Q: (TK) And how easy it would be to
A: Of course. And many other factors.
Q: (TK) It would have to have something to
do with what they could do for the abductors. I mean, they have to be in
a position to help them...
A: Yes. STS Vibrational frequency.
Q: (T) OK, that’s a factor. There’s more
than one agenda involved with abductions. Are the military personnel
that are being abducted; is that a specific agenda that is being
A: Artificial classifications, such as military designations, are
important to human groups only.
Q: (J) I’ve got a question. Isn’t it true
that in order to become part of the military, you have to go through
boot camp, the indoctrination to the point where you’re going to follow
orders without questioning, and that that mindset would lend itself more
towards? (TK) The Marines are about the only ones that even try to get
people to follow orders without question any more. The Navy has all but
given up on that. It’s not a time of war so it’s not necessary right
A: Yes. Some have always “faked” such blind allegiance anyway.
Q: (TK) I basically faked it, I...
A: You were not alone.
Q: (TK) Oh, yeah! There were a bunch of us. “Yeah, sure, tell us what to
do. If it’s in our interest, if we’re going to stay alive, we’ll do it;
if you’re going to kill us, forget it!” I used to tell them on the ship,
that if I ever got captured, I’m going to tell them everything I know. I
said, they aren’t going to have to torture me long... (T) Besides, when
you torture me, I tend to scream a lot and not tell you too much, so
I’ll just tell you and let’ s skip the torture. (TK) So when I refused
to go up for ESWS, I was kind of an outcast, I wasn’t in the club
anymore... Enlisted Surface Warfare Specialist. (T) Aha, that’s when you
were asked! (J): That’s where they separate the men from the boys...
(TK): This captain put it in such a way, he said, “Well, if you’ll work
on your ESWS and get that pin, I’ll see to it that you get good marks
and make chief...” which to me was like saying, well, if you don’t do
it, you’re not going to make chief. I said, “Sorry, bud! I’m not going
to do it. I don’t respond to that kind of bribery/intimidation stuff!”
(F) You would have set the service back a number of years. (TK) That’s
when I became an outcast from the club.
A: Not correct concept, not outcast, just deemed not SG material.
Q: (L) What’s SG?
A: Secret Government.
Q: (TK) Darn! (J) You had your chance Tom, and you blew it! (TK) Was FRW
initiated? Was he one of the Secret Government agents?
A: No. Was a “conduit”. There are several steps that must be followed to
become part of the Secret Government.
Q: (J) You have to know the handshake... (T)
I can’t get my foot in my ear, I’m sorry! [Laughter]
A: Vietnam MIA’s (missing in action), where do you suppose they are now?
Q: (TK) Have they been abducted? (T) Some of them got blown up so badly
that they couldn’t be found, so they were listed as MIAs, because they
couldn’t mark them as KIAs (killed in action). Some of them are deserters, some of them...
well, deserters would fall into several classifications, which I won’t
bother getting into. Some of them went into the drug trade. (TK) Some of
them just decided they liked it better over there. (T) Yeah, there’s
that, and some of them, I would imagine, have been either abducted or
swapped, moved into the Secret Government. (L) Is all of this correct?
Q: (TK) Are we supposed to still be on the military subject?
A: KIAs... Are a separate subject!! KIAs, how many really were?
Q: (T) How many of the 60,000 really were killed? How many of them are
listed as dead when they’re not? (TK) Tell you what, there were so many
different kinds of people that went over there, the Secret Government
could have recruited a bunch... (L) Are these some of the people working
in these underground places we are always hearing stories about?
Q: (L) That’s where those personnel are coming from...
A: And many other places, times, etc.
Q: (TK) Wars all through the ages. How many are we talking about?
A: Since your imagination center is on low frequency tonight, suppose we
have to spell it all out for you...
Q: (L) Go ahead, spell it out for us. How
many are we talking about here?
A: W.W.II, 72,355, still alive where????
Q:(T) Now, wait a minute... (T): That’s how many people the Secret
Government has snatched up? (J) From W.W.II? (TK) That’s out of
something like 40 million... (F) Total People killed in W.W.II was 70 to
80 million... (TK) Military casualties... we’re not talking about just US
military, either, we’re talking about total, anybody’s army... (T) That
was supposedly killed in action...
Q: (T): From all branches of the service?
Q: (TK): These people aren’t aging; they’re still in action and ready to
A: Precisely, my friends!!!
Q: (TK) How about Korea, Vietnam, etc.
A: Korea: 6,734.
Q: (T): Yeah, there were about 55 thousand casualties in Korea, in the
four years of Korea. Really it was 3 ½ years in Korea. So 6,000, about a
little over 10% of them aren’t really dead.
A: Vietnam: 23,469.
Q: (T) 23,000 of the 66,000...
Q: (T): ...Are still alive?
A: Yes. Some are body duplicate soul receptacle replacements.
[Change in tape sides; first few sentences were
Q: (J) They have just around 100,000 with
those three figures they gave us. (TK) They’ve got a military force
right now, and it’s not just a military, these are elite. I mean,
they’ve been recruited. (J) They’ve been asked the question, and they
said yes! (T) Yes, this is not some guy hunking a gun in a foxhole just
for the heck of it. These are specialists. (TK) The CIA was siphoning
people off in ‘Nam right and left.
Q: (L) Are there any Civil War KIAs involved in this scenario?
A: A few.
Q: (T): Well, the farther back you go, the specialties weren’t
developed. But a specialist is a specialist, no matter what the war.
A: Not point.
Q: (L) I think the point is who they are. Now, in the Matrix material,
there’s a section that talks about technical abilities to jerk people’s
souls out of their bodies, insert other souls, reprogram the memories,
essentially that there is no congruency...
Q: (L) OK, so the jerking out and the manipulating of souls as described
are false? In a general sense?
Q: (L) OK, now, you said a moment ago that some of these bodies were
used as receptacles, soul receptacles. When you say soul receptacles, do
you mean soul receptacles for whom?
A: Replacements for dead bodies,
Q: (L) So, in other words, they make replacements for
dead people and put their souls in a replacement body, so that they can
continue living on, is that it?
Q: (L) Do they ever use dead bodies and reanimate them and then put
other souls in them?
A: No. For example: a soldier is KIA, his body is duplicated, his soul
is replaced into new body, then he is “reprogrammed for service” to
aliens and S.G. [Secret Government]
Q: (L) Where does the new body
A: It is
duplicate of old body. TDARM.
[TDARM is Trans
Dimensional Atomic ReMolecularization]
Q: (T) Otherwise known in Star Trek as a “Replicator”. (TK) Does
somebody have to die in a certain way before they can do this?
Q: (TK): Is there a time limit on how long they can be dead?
A: No. Zero time.
Q: (L) They use the frequency vibration of the soul pattern, they take
it into another density, use their TDARM technology to cause a molecular
re-assembly; in other words, the atoms begin to assemble around it in
the pattern that it had before, and then it is a full-fledged body, and
then they insert it back through the time doorway into 3D again. Is that
Q: (T): OK, you said... let’s use Vietnam. You said there were 23,000
KIAs of the 60,000 that actually were not killed in action. True? Yes?
A: Were killed, then reanimated.
Q: (L) We’re not talking about physical
bodies here, are we?
Q: (L) OK, there are some that were killed in action that the actual
bodies were reanimated? (J) As long as they weren’t blown up in a land
mine, yeah. (L) There were actually bodies that were actually
reanimated, is that correct?
A: Some, but most were duplicated. War makes covert actions so easy.
Q: (T) It’s just that the cover of a war, is
easier to take the bodies. (TK)
They do not want people to realize... They do not want to just take
them out of the graves, because if you did, it would be more noticed.
(L) Were some of these bodies taken... were the bodies picked up, taken
into another density for this ReMolecularization patterning?
Q: (L) OK, so they had to have an actual
body for the pattern. Were the original bodies returned once the
duplication was done?
A: More than one type of situation.
Q: (L) So, in other words, it could be
sometimes, yeah, they were, and sometimes, no, they weren’t. (T) Were
some of these supposed “killed in action’s” actually not killed? Were
they still alive when they were removed?
A: All possibilities.
Q: (L) So this is in a sense a “crime of
opportunity”. (J) War is a supermarket of opportunities! (T) Some were
just taken by the Secret Government when they were alive, some were dead
and brought back in new bodies to continue on, and they were considered
dead, but they’re all considered dead.
A: Taken by aliens, not SG. Secret Government is aware to some extent,
but not in control of operation.
Q: (L) OK, now this brings up the question
about... We were told that there was, and this was... last week we asked
about this thing about the death... and we were told that there was an
impenetrable triple veil that prevents some of this type of activity,
that he describes happening. How can this be reconciled? Well, the
explanation that I see is that it happens that they do this before they
go into the tunnel, into the light. They catch them in the transition
before they go to 5D. Is that correct?
A: Time adjustment.
Q: (L) Does that mean that they know that
they’re going to die, and they go back in time to just before they die,
or just at the moment of death, or?
Q: (T): Now, what are the aliens doing with
these bodies? With the humans that they replicate and duplicate and
reanimate? What are they doing with them?
A: Serve them. Workers.
So, now that you know what was in my head when
we were talking about Roswell, you will understand why I asked the next
question in the session we broke away from to insert the above segment about
Q: (L) OK, did they plan to reanimate these corpses?
Q: (L) Do they ever pick up dead bodies, you
know, right after, and reanimate them?
Q: (L) When they pick them up and reanimate
them, do they reanimate them with the souls that left them? Do they
like, catch the soul and put it back in?
Q: (L) When they reanimate them, do they
reanimate them with an alien soul?
A: Multiple possibilities.
Q: (L) If they reanimate them, is it
possible to reanimate them with no soul?
Q: (L) OK, when they reanimate them with no
soul, do they have kind of like a zombie-like situation?
Q: (L) Well, could you give us a little more
information on this particular aspect? If they reanimate them with no
soul, what is the animating force or energy?
A: Indistinguishable from other humans.
Q: (L) How is that possible?
A: Technology makes all things possible!!!
Q: (L) Of course, you are talking about 4th
Q: (L) Now, a reanimated corpse that has
been animated by infusion of
some form of an energy pattern... (SV) Is it “chi” energy, maybe? (L)
What if the reanimated corpse dies again, I mean, you have got to
understand here, that we perceive the soul as being the animating force
of the physical body, and when the soul is gone, the body dies. Is that
A: You are making assumptions based on limited data.
Q: (L) OK, well, will you expand my database
by telling me how a corpse
can be reanimated if not done by a... if not with a soul?
A: Complex technology, using electronic biogeneration frequency
matching, combined with extremely high frequency radio beacon
transmitters for tracking and control of all functions, including
thought pattern mimic and emotional frequency vibrational rate
Q: (L) If they’re doing this, does it make
the physical body do all normal physical functions?
Q: (L) The blood, the heartbeat and
A: All functions, including cellular, are duplicated.
Q: (SV) What about the aura? (L) Would a
being such as this still have an aura?
A: Projected. This is method used for subjects discussed in “Matrix
Material” instead of “Robots”, as suggested.
Q: (L) Is there any way that a normal person
would be able to identify such a being?
Q: (L) Approximately how many of this type
of being are walking around on our planet, acting like normal people?
Q: (L) Approximately 2 million?
A: Yes. You, Laura, have come in contact with 7 of them!
Q: (L) Who are they?
Q: (L) Can you give me a clue, has it been
within the last...
A: Open. All it takes is a “hospital visit”.
Q: (LM) Then what happens? Does this mean if
one goes into a hospital for surgery, that it’s possible for them to die
and be reanimated in this manner? Without anybody being aware of what
happened via time/space manipulation?
Q: (L) Is it up to me to figure out what
characteristics these individuals have, in order to...
A: Based upon data given, yes.
Q: (L) OK, is one of the characteristics I
think, that these kind of individuals might have, since they have this
projected emotional frequency, would be a repeating emotional pattern,
that they just simply, in spite of seeming intelligence, do not seem to
learn from anything; that it just repeats over and over again, is that a
Q: (L) OK, then, this same inability to get
a clue about what’s going on... OK, that’s a clue, right there. Is there
any kind of instinctual sensation that one would get about these types
Q: (L) That they’re bland in some way? Is
that it, that these individuals are bland individuals?
A: Spend inordinate amounts of “time” in solitude. Bland is not
in this situation, just a clue for you to identify individual.
Q: (L) OK, bland is just part of it.
A: Not key component, more likely to be spreading of disinformation.
Q: (L) OK, well, there ARE people I have noticed, that if you tell them
something logically, it’s almost like they have a preset program that
runs, and the minute you get to the point where you think that they just
HAVE to be getting it... then it just shuts down and they repeat the
program, almost word for word! And it just amazes me that people can be
that way. OK, do these beings know what they are?
A: Not conscious beings! Are being remote controlled.
Q: (SV) So, if you told one of them what
they were, they’d agree with you? (L) No, they’d probably disagree with
you. Whoever is in charge would not want you to know it, so they’d
naturally deny it vehemently. (L) Now, what is the purpose of putting 2
million of these kinds of critters on the planet? Can you give us a
A: Wait and see.
Q: (L) Okay, if a person were, say, a
robot person, when a person
becomes a robot person, what happens to the soul of the robot person?
A: Same process: Death.
Q: (L) So, a person can die and leave their
body, their body can be taken over and reanimated and controlled to
function, and do a lot of things for a long time? Meanwhile, the
original soul has completely departed to 5th density ready to recycle?
A: Yes, but body is replaced, not reanimated. We caution that, even
though you have met 7 “robots”, in your entire lifetime, not to “see”
them under every bush or around every corner. You have met so many
people in your life. We gave you one, and only one!! [One was identified
for me as part of the clue system.]
Q: (L) Well, there are two million of them
on the planet, and I have been told that I have encountered seven. I did
think that this was a pretty high ratio of robot people for one person
A: Yes, but your life path has been unusual.
Q: (L) Can you tell me in what sense it is unusual?
A: Can’t you?
Q: (L) Well, I thought I would trick you
into telling me...
A: No tricks, we only treat.
So it seems that, in addition to “Green Bombs”,
in several varieties, as I have been informed recently, mind controlled
individuals manipulated by the Secret Government, we also have a handful of
Robots wandering around on the Big Blue Marble just waiting to do SOMETHING.
Or, even doing it all along, seeming to be
ordinary folks like you and me except for a particular “blandness” that is
NOT universal to them, and a propensity for spending a lot of time alone.
But, two million is really a pretty small number, considering the population
of the planet, taken as a whole, so these must be pretty specialized
individuals. That they are “servants” and “workers” for the Alien/Human
Consortium is pretty clear, and that many of them are supposedly drawn from
a “military pool” is also pretty clear, but the possibilities are wide open
in terms of where and how they might be “placed”.
We came back to the subject at one point, with more interesting revelations:
Q: (L) One of the things we talked about the last time TK was here was
about the underground bases and military interference in civilian
affairs and civilian interface with military affairs. One of the
questions we were dealing with was the use of warfare to create
situations in which bodies could be taken...
A: Warfare has many “uses”. Generation of environment to facilitate
inconspicuous replacement of gene pool. Factors in paradigm shift
through stimulation of conception activity, replacement of key personnel
according to frequency vibration pre-readings...
Q: (L) “Replacement of key personnel
according to frequency vibration pre-readings...” Okay: do you mean to
say that war...
A: Creates “environment” for unnoticed genetic
modifications because of greatly heightened exchange of both physical
and ethereal factors.
Q: (L) What do you mean by “replacement of key
personnel”? Key personnel according to whose definition?
A: 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Are these key personnel human?
Q: (L) When you say replacement, do you mean something as simple as
someone dying, such as
a head of state, and being replaced by another
person who comes to power? That would be the simplest scenario that
would fit this explanation.
A: Your scenario is not simple.
Q: (L) I mean simple in terms of the logistics...
Q: (L) Would it also be that key personnel
could also be replaced as in duplication?
A: Yes. And removing to secret activity realm. Enough wars have taken
place to effectively create entire new “underground race” of humans,
both from direct capture followed by “re-education”, and spawning
activity using these persons and others.
Q: (L) What do you mean by spawning
A: Those captured have reproduced offspring,
these never having seen your world.
Q: (L) Are you saying... (TK) They have
given birth and these children have never seen our world... (L) How can
an entire race of people, or groups of people, live under the surface of
this planet, without the whole 6 billion of the rest of us on top, or at
least a large number, realizing that there is anything going on? This is
so wild an idea...
A: No. How much space exists underground, as
opposed to that on the surface?
Q: (L) A lot, I suppose. You aren’t saying
the earth is hollow, are you?
A: No, not exactly.
Q: (L) Well, how deep is the deepest of these underground cities?
A: 3,108 miles.
Q: (L) That’s pretty deep! But wouldn’t it
be too hot at that depth?
A: No. Temperature averages 68 degrees F.
Q: (TK) That’s pretty comfortable! (L) How
do they have light?
A: Magnetic resonance.
Q: (L) Well, aren’t they subject to being
crushed by earthquakes?
A: No, earthquakes are not felt deep underground!!
Q: (TK) Is any of this under the ocean?
Q: (TK) Well, we’ll never explore all of
what is under the ocean. (L) It just
staggers the mind to think about it. What do they want these people for?
A: To replace you.
Q: (TK) And why? Because they can control
Q: (L) Do these people being bred and raised
in these underground cities
A: Yes, most.
Q: (TK) Are they just like us only raised
A: More complicated than that.
Q: (L) How long have they been doing this?
A: 14,000 years, approximately.
Q: (L) If they have been doing it that long,
obviously the ones they have taken at the beginning have croaked and are
of no use to replace anybody on the earth unless they have been
replacing people from time to time for various reasons...
A: No, their technology makes yours look like Neanderthal by comparison!
Hibernation tubes... One heartbeat per hour, for example.
Q: (TH) That means that for every year we
live, they would live 4200 years... (L) How do we fit into all of this?
(TK) We don’t!
A: You have been the “preparation committee”.
Q: (L) What have we been doing? Is it part
of the plan for us to destroy the
planet, destroy the ozone layer, pollute the seas, and so forth, to make
it more habitable for them?
A: Those things are inconsequential and easily repaired.
Q: (TK) With their technology, they can fix
all of that. (L) This is really horrible, you know! To think of all
this... (TK) Apparently, from what I am understanding, they can’t just
come in and wipe us out and replace us, because the “rules” won’t allow
A: Yet the natural cycles within the framework of the natural order of
things will allow all these things to fall into place.
Q: (L) Is there some law within the realm of
these beings, sort of like the law of gravity that prevents them from
just coming in and taking over?
Q: (TK) I don’t think it is like the law of gravity...
A: What “law” is there that inhibits you from manipulating 2nd density
beings at will?!?
Q: (L) Well, I don’t go out and deliberately
hurt or manipulate anything or anybody. (TK) Of course, in our handling
of these “critters”, we are conserving them in some ways so that we will
have an ongoing food supply... I think there are rules to the game. It’s
like a chess game. They can’t just come in and change things, it has to
progress in some way. But, there are loopholes and they can sneak in and
manipulate and get away with some things... (TH) Then, those aren’t
rules - there are just guidelines.
A: Two important points there: 1) When we said “you”, we meant 3rd
density collectively. 2) You missed our statement about the natural
cycle and order of things almost completely. We suggest you reread and
ponder... Also, what if your race is manipulated to destroy yourselves,
or, just hang around until the next natural cataclysm?
Q: (TK) Well, it seems like there is
another side that is trying to prevent them from gaining control. (L)
Well, from what I understand, the only thing the good guys are able to
do is, because of free will, they have to wait to be asked for help, and
the only they thing they can really do is give information. (F) Well,
this is valuable if used by the right people at the right time. (TK) You
have to come up with the right questions, too. You have to have enough
information to be able to come up with the right
questions. I am sure the information is there. You have one group with
all these people underground and they want to take over the planet. This
group likes being 4th density - they don’t want to advance. They want to
block advancement. Then, you have the group that wants to advance; they
want the natural order to proceed. This negative group wants to stay
there and keep everyone they can there. Obviously we have the
information, but we haven’t really dug deep enough so that we don’t know
the questions that we need to ask. Is this true?
Q: (TK) Is what I was saying close to the truth?
A: Yes. Total truth is elusive.
Q: (TK) So, what I said was the gist of what is going on here. So, we
have to figure out what we are supposed to do so that the earth can be
A: You will do what you will do.
Q: (TK) This is true.
A: Do you, in general, control 2nd density beings on earth?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: So, what is “fair” about that?
Q: (L) Nothing.
A: Okay, so what is the difference?!?!???
Q: (TK) So, basically, we control 2nd density, and 4th density controls
us. There are the good guys and bad guys. (L) And we will do what we
will do. Either we choose to align ourselves with the good guys, or with
the bad guys.
A: It’s up to you.
Q: (TK) However, if too many people themselves with the bad guys, then
the balance tips in their favor, and there is no more advancement, so
there has to be education so that people will know...
A: TK, you are close, but you are missing the point.
Q: (L) What is the point?
A: The point is, there “has to be” nothing. You will do what you will
do. You choose. We have told you this repeatedly, but you still suffer
from self-centered perspective.
Q: (TK) Everybody is worried about themselves. They all want to be saved
and not worry about others.
A: More to the point, everybody in an STS realm views themselves as
somehow “special, chosen, or protected”. This is simply not so!!
Q: (L) So, in other words, by having
knowledge of the situation, what we do with it is our choice?
Q: (TK) The point is it’s going to happen...
A: But, nobody is there to intervene on your behalf as many would like
Q: (L) So, we are here on this planet, and
we will either make it or we won’t, just like Dorothy and Toto in Oz,
based on our own ability to figure it out, to overcome the odds, the
witch, monkeys and soldiers... (TK) Maybe what they are trying to do is
give people the information, or make the information available so that
people can make the choice, do they want to stay...
A: We are not “trying” to do anything. We are here to answer questions
if asked. We cannot interfere.
Q: (TK) Yes, the noninterference idea is
pretty clear and understandable. So, they cannot interfere...
A: And, even when we answer, you may not believe, it is up to you!
Q: (L) So, we are really on our own!
A: You always have been, and so have we, and all others, too!!
Q: (TK) I guess then, it is a matter of asking the right questions so
that you will know what course of action to take. I mean, do you want to
advance? Do you want to go to 4th density? Or do you want to go higher?
Or do you want to stay here? How can you make an informed choice if you
don’t know the true conditions and what your options are? (L) Is it that
the religions that have been generated and foisted on the human race,
have been designed to give people a feeling of complacency or faith in
something outside themselves, and that this prevents them from seeking
knowledge, opening their eyes, facing the facts of their existence, and
therefore keeps them in bondage?
A: Its just obstacles, as always. You employ those too, for your 2nd
Q: (TK) What state of mind do you have to
have to want to advance? (F) Well, you know you are on the path when you
can see that the words don’t match the facts of life. Think of all the
people you have met with whom you may have had a philosophical
conversation. How many will say: Oh, all I need is the Bible. That’s all
I pay any attention to. (TK) I don’t have many philosophical
conversations with people because I rarely agree with anything that is
said. (F) Well, you must have decided on this because you tried it and
found it didn’t work. (TK) I have a real problem... yes, the Bible has
been around for a long time, and religion has been around for a long
time... but I have a real problem believing something that is so
obviously produced by humans with agendas of their own! (F) But most
people that you tell that to will say: Oh, no! People didn’t write the
Bible, God did! Or, they could be a complete atheist and believe only in
the religion of science. (TK) I believe that a person is supposed to
live by rules and treat people with respect and honor life... and some
of the ideas of religion are good... but they just go over the edge. (F)
That is how they suck people in. Mix lies with the truth. (L) Yes, a lie
sandwiched between two truths makes it easier to swallow. (F) Yes, if it
were ALL false, the vast majority of people would have figured it out
immediately. Or, very quickly. (TK) The vast majority doesn’t care. They
just want to be led like sheep. They don’t want any responsibility. (F)
And what happens to the vast majority of cattle? They munch away in
their pasture until time to get in the truck to go to the butcher. And,
if you talk to the religious types, they will say: Oh, I don’t have any
answers... I just follow the Bible. (L) Not only do they not have any
answers, they don’t have any questions, either. And, I think that is the
clue. The people who are still asking questions after wading through all
the religions and mystical mumbo-jumbo as opposed to the ones who think
they have found the ultimate answer... (TK) The whole purpose of life,
it seems to me, is to obtain knowledge and advance. You are stuck on
this level until you figure it out. But what are you supposed to figure
out? (L) I think that the knowing is the doing. (TH) “Ye shall know the
truth and the truth shall set you free.” It’s in the Bible!!! (L) Is the
knowing the key?
Q: (L) I think that knowing changes your frequency. Is that true?
Q: (L) The acknowledging and the seeing?
Q: (L) What did they tell us once... it’s not where you are, but who you
are and what you see that counts? (TK) So, we aren’t going to change what
happens. There is no way we can have any appreciable effect on the
underground armies... it is just a matter of changing ourselves and
whoever else we can share with.
A: Correct, the cow has no effect on the health of the livestock
Q: (TK) The cow has no effect on the herd.
One cow doesn’t... or even a lot of cows. (F) But there might be a few
cows that follow the one that breaks out of the herd. (TK) Yes, you
might be able to affect somebody else’s life, but not the whole group.
A: First, some blockbuster stuff for the Knighted ones... Look upon a
detailed map, and reflect, remember lonely journeys from long ago, and
begin to unlock shattering mysteries, which will lead to revelations
opening the door to the greatest learning burst yet!!
Q: (L) Well, what I REALLY want to know is
WHY have we had all of these CRAZY things happen in our lives, and all
of these people ranged all around us seemingly placed there, or
manipulated deliberately to affect us negatively. I mean, am I wrong, or
is this not a VERY unusual and crazy situation?
A: Why do you think?
Q: (L) Well, I have no idea!
A: Because you are of the extremely rare and few who have the abilities
to put the puzzle together.
Q: (L) So, what are we supposed to do? (TK) Discover.
Let’s go over those most important remarks above
one more time:
“The point is, there ‘has to be’ nothing.
You will do what you will do. You choose. We have told you this
repeatedly, but you still suffer from self-centered perspective. More to
the point, everybody in an STS realm views himself or herself as somehow
‘special, chosen, or protected’.
This is simply not so!! ...
there to intervene on your behalf as many would like to believe. We are
not ‘trying’ to do anything. We are here to answer questions if asked.
We cannot interfere. And even when we answer, you may not believe. It is
up to you!”
It seems that we are in a quandary. What can all
of this rather bleak perspective possibly mean?
Well, we were given a clue:
“You will do what you will do. Do you, in
general, control 2nd density beings on earth? So, what is ‘fair’ about
that?... What is the difference?!?!?”
Let me remind you that the Cassiopaeans do all
their own punctuating.
In this last remark above, I counted the
exclamations and question marks that were indicated, and the group above
represents the actual given sequence. The Cassiopaeans often use such
devices as part of the clue system. Yes, they cannot violate free will by
even SUGGESTING what we ought to choose or do, but they have said so often
that “you will do what you will do” in such a context as to make it
absolutely clear that the information they are giving us can either be ACTED
on or not!
It depends on how it affects the individual
hearing or reading it.
We have traversed ideas in these pages that are utterly fantastic. We have
talked about things that, if true, could scare the chrome off of a car
bumper! And yet, I look outside the window and see the blue sky, clouds and
sunshine, birds and squirrels; I hear my children moving about the house
engaged in their little pursuits; traffic passes on the street carrying
people to and from their myriad destinations, engaged upon their personal
lives and enterprises, and the world seems to be spinning normally in the
velvet blackness of space.
Billions of suns spewing forth unimaginable
energy twinkle slyly at night, while the tropical moon glides mysteriously
across the sky.
And the Bible asks,
“What is man that Thou art mindful of him?”
I hope to be able to answer this question in the
next section. I may not satisfy everyone, because there are many who still,
“suffer from self-centered perspective. More
to the point, everybody in an STS realm views themselves as somehow
‘special, chosen, or protected’.”
To give you just a hint, however, let me say
this: to be “special, chosen or protected” is a CHOICE. And that is the
biggest clue the Cassiopaeans have given us.
It is up to us as to how we interpret it, and
what we then do with that realization.