Kerry Cassidy (KC):
Hi, this is Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan from Project Camelot.
It's April 29th, a Wednesday, and we're here with Dr. Bill
We're very happy to be talking to you Bill. We are trying to get
an update on whatís going on with the virus. I donít know if
itís really officially a pandemic. Maybe you can explain that to
us; when something becomes a pandemic versus just some kind of
virus going around.
Bill Deagle (BD): Yes, If you actually stick to
the six phases of the World Health Organization Categorization
itís actually in Phase Five of a pandemic right now. Phase Six
is the out-of-control, top level of it. And thatís by
definition. It means itís rapidly spreading to other continents,
itís having close-to-close human-to-human contact and it is
causing deaths. Now thereís probably more than one strain
One of the concerns that I have is that this virus... I agree
Len Horowitz (I just saw
his video clip today). All the
evidence indicates that it was a CDC World Health Organization
virus. They were working with a company called Novavax, but
there's actually six companies making these vaccines, including
Sanofi Pasteur, that has 382 million doses of a dual RNA
The RNA vaccine where theyíve given the first phase, as long ago
as three or four months ago, to our troops. And theyíve already
announced earlier this year that they are going to give it to
all the county sheriffs and their families. And the second
phase, when they ďhave an antigenically more accurate second
KC: Iím sorry, Iím not understanding you. Are you saying
that this virus is part of something that has been given to our
troops as a vaccine?
BD: Well, no. Itís a separate thing. The one given to our troops
is a first phase, called an RNA vaccine, by Sanofi Pasteur. What
Dr. Horowitz is showing in his video clip (which you may want to
talk to him) - and I agree itís the CDC World Health
Organization - thereís direct complicity with them and British
recombinant viral biologists that have actually worked on this
project, and he has all the connecting dots.
It fits in with the documentation which I received from
scientists and doctors in March of 1997 that was smuggled out of
the Basel Headquarters of the World Health Organization. They
were going to resurrect with gene fragments the 1918 swine human
flu recombinant, and then convert it with some Avian genes, put
it into Asia and then later release a bridge virus, which is
what this virus is.
There are two strains in Mexico City. One thatís making people
very sick and the other one thatís actually killing people. So,
we wonít know for a couple of weeks, but if it starts to show
selective deaths of only Hispanic people in America, then we
know - like AIDS, which is 16 times more likely to kill blacks
than to kill whites - that it is a race specific bioweapon.
There are six companies producing vaccine for the World Health
Organization (WHO) and the international community. Pfizer
Pharmaceutical, Sanofi Pasteur, Baxter Laboratories that
actually had this accident in 18 different labs in four
countries, and shut down the biotest lab in the Czech Republic.
Their phone is off the hook. Nobodyís answering the phone. Weíve
been having our people - Alexander Jones, an
NIH whistleblower - calling them daily and they are now not only not returning
calls, either Baxter or Biotest in the Czech Republic, their
phone is disconnected.
But the Sanofi was the one where the U.S. government contracted
for 382 million plus doses of this binary vaccine. Their branch
plant in Beijing shipped it four-and-a-half to five months ago,
and it is now shipped to major military U.S. bases. Theyíve
already been administering it for the past four months to our
troops; the first phase of this binary vaccine.
And they say the
second phase will be ďantigenically more accurateĒ for the
Itís an Avian flu vaccine. Research about it...
KC: But you canít vaccinate against it; is my understanding.
BD: Right, but what theyíre doing is theyíre saying theyíre
doing it. And theyíve given an RNA vaccine they say will prime
them so they will have an immune response within a week rather
than two to three weeks.
This latest thing that Novavax is working on is a similar virus
in which they actually recombined the H1N1 swine flu from 1918,
that was resurrected by Dr. Taugenberger - [ed. note: Dr.
Jeffery Taugenberger] - at the CDC, with the H5N1 lethal
strains and human viruses, and they actually created vaccines
which they were playing around with. Novavax, and what Dr.
Horowitz has stated and itís probably correct, is that this
companyís virus is virtually identical to the one which has been
released in Mexico City.
So they probably sprayed it over Mexico City because when you
have a weakened population with a lot of biotoxins in the
environment it makes it easier for them to become ill. So, yeah,
this is absolutely manmade. I donít call it a swine flu because
itís not. With swine flu 20 percent of all veterinarians in
Ohio, according to research, are positive for antibodies to
swine virus and they donít get sick or die.
KC: Iím sorry, I really have to get back to the troops. What is
it theyíre giving our troops and what is going to be the result
of what theyíre giving our troops?
BD: What theyíre doing is inserting whatís called
H5N1 RNA. In
other words, theyíre inserting some RNA which actually stays in
their body and modifies the genetics of the troops so that their
immune systems will respond more quickly when they give them the
second phase of this vaccine that is called a binary or
KC: When you say: their immune systems will respond more
quickly, youíre saying that...
BD: Thatís their theory. Thatís what theyíre saying.
KC: ...in theory, they will fight off the disease faster?
BD: Thatís what they are saying.
KC: Because there is no real reason, in my mind, why they would
want our troops to die of a virus.
BD: Well, I would think that there is actually a very good
reason they would want our troops to die.
KC: Okay. Other than in battle? Because this is what they use
BD: No. They want our troops to die so they can bring in
troops on American soil because they will shoot at American
citizens and disarm them. American troops wonít. Thatís already
been established. So they want our troops sick and they want our
KC: Okay, thatís quite a statement.
BD: Yeah, it is. Itís true. I have that from inside sources,
too, and theyíre very concerned inside the military. The county
sheriffs were announced - we had whistleblowers from several
states including Arizona and Arkansas, and other states that we
had - that they were... Also, the Department of Homeland
Security, as well as the state health departments in states
across the United States, have been planning to vaccine all the
county sheriffs and their families with the same vaccine. But,
as far as I know, I havenít had my whistleblowers tell me
theyíve actually done it yet.
KC: Okay. Again, why would they vaccinate? If you say the
vaccine is actually preparing them... Iím getting the impression
that youíre telling us that itís preparing them for the next
wave of this virus.
BD: Well, the one that theyĎre...
KC: Itís not going to protect them; it is going to kill them. So
again, why would they want to kill...
BD: We donít know. All we know is, number one: it may give them
a false sense of protection, at the very least.
Number two: this is totally experimental. Thereís no research to
show that you can make a binary vaccine and you can prime
someone with this RNA so that when they get a second phase
thatís antigenically correct... The thing is, the virus is going
to come up with multiple sub-strains, and itís extremely
unlikely that they can create one quick enough. The fastest you
can use it, if you use cell culture, is probably 60 days
minimum. If you use cell culture and egg membrane, you can use 6
months, at least.
And the virus changes so quickly that it wouldnít be genetically
correct, and number two, I
donít believe the vaccines work
anyway. In fact, the research has shown that whose who received
the vaccine to the swine virus in 1918 were the ones that died.
They depress Sermion [sp?] systems; they increase the risk of
new recombinants forming.
Like they were giving the swine vaccine in Mexico City until the
weekend when the
WHO finally reported - after me and many
others were saying they shouldnít be vaccinating - they
actually discontinued the program. But that would actually
insert new DNA, new viral material so you could actually form
recombinants, or new viruses, that would swap DNA and create new
viral strains that could be more lethal and spread more quickly.
In Mexico City and other areas, and by the way this is spreading
very rapidly. It is almost certain there's a strain that causes
a bad flu and there is a strain that causes a bad flu that
kills. It causes a
KC: But my understanding is that people in the U.S. are not
dying from this.
BD: Right. My guess is the strain that got into the U.S. is a
very bad flu but it is not the strain yet. But the fact is...
Hereís what happened: in H5N1 - and I had the documents 12
years ago - the primary reason, the number one reason when I
started radio broadcasting fulltime four years ago plus was to
warn people of this because I had the documents; I was given the
information to warn people that this is coming.
This is one of the primary vehicles that
the globalists want to
use to quell any resistance to the new financial order thatís
coming; to quell resistance to revolution in Mexico and the
United States when the economy collapses and they switch to a
new financial order worldwide.
They are bringing in a Hate Crimes Bill today:
HR1913. This is
the 29th, which is to be voted on, and it is the most noxious
hate-crime bill which will affect everyone of every group,
either skin color, or religion or lack of religion or whatever.
Itíll affect everybody. This will allow them to have
totalitarian control and selective prosecution of anyone who
speaks of against any issue that they donít like you to talk
Bill Ryan (BR): Hello, Dr. Bill, it is good to be talking to
BD: Yeah, it is good to talk to you again, Bill.
BR: Youíre in the excellent position to understand the
controllerís thinking. If you were one of their strategists,
what do you think their strategic plan is, of which this may be
a very early stage.
BD: What they have done is release a bridge virus. [he spells]
b-r-i-d-g-e. This bridges and spreads very quickly between
humans. The earlier strain thatís in the United States is a bad
flu but it isnít lethal. The second strain which is in Mexico
City is killing people at a relatively rapid rate; weíre going
to guess somewhere at around eight to ten percent case fatality
rate, which is pretty high, to go four times higher than the
1918 swine flu pandemic, which is a swine-human recombinant.
I went over the DNA letters 3 years ago with Henry L. Niman,
Recombinomics, that has more patents than any other
Ph.D. virologist in history on recombination, which is how
viruses change; they swap DNA. I think they have already pulled
the trigger. The hammer has fallen and it will come in waves
that could occur over months, or years, or even more than a
So if we get over this, as Napolitano has stated as the Head of
Homeland Security, former governor of Arizona, we are almost
certainly looking at a wave. Whether itís six weeks or three
months or six months, that is going to have a much higher case
fatality rate and itís shown already that theyíre doing nothing
and plan to do nothing to stop the virus from moving.
Now they could do things like having an antiviral hepa filter in
every aircraft, tracking every person that flies or crosses a
border for at least ten to twelve days; making sure they donít
have symptoms, tracking all their contacts. They could give
everybody antipathogenics, actually build their immune system
Super Silver (or
colloidal silver) or
NutrioDine and the element
allicin, which if
you just take a little bit of it, it prevents you from getting a
They could issue true nanoparticle masks - and the best is the
Nano Mask - or a
NIOSH N100 mask, and if you are in an area you
probably also need an eye shield because you can get it sprayed
in your eyes. If you use natural good hygiene practices, really,
you could stop this cold.
The fact is the government is doing nothing to stop it. They are
not doing anything to stop commerce or truckers coming in from
Mexico or airline flights. They are not doing anything to track
anybody. I brought these issues up in 2002 with the FBI and the
CDC director for bioterrorism, along with Dr. Jay Reddington,
Infectious Disease Director at the University of Colorado,
because I was the point man under Dr. John Hughes of Rocky
We worked on
Operation TOPOFF and Dark Winter
in the late í90s doing bioweapons war simulations.
The fact is the government is doing everything to make sure that
if this does acquire new genetics and new sub-strains emergent
that enter the United States and other countries, theyíre going
to declare martial law. They have now - and I have this from my
military contacts, trained over 50,000 returning U.S. troops -
there are special crack troops now upgraded to handle, in these
new Chem-Bio suits, the administration of drugs and/or vaccines
civil detention camps are now being set up
as quarantine camps all across the United States.
As of two weeks ago they had 50,000 already trained and ready to
roll. This is before this, what I call the lab flu, North
American lab flu. Iím not going to call this swine flu because
there are genes from the Avian flu; the new Avian flu. It has
genes from Swine, from Human and Asian flu; genes from three
continents, so this is not... Itís coming from the wrong place;
it always emerges from Asia.
So this is a laboratory flu that almost certainly was released
in Mexico City on purpose. The virus is basically going to
acquire new genetics. It also grows well in birds and animals,
like pigs and probably cattle. Itís going to allow the jumping
of those Avian genes, H5N1, that are killing millions of birds
on every continent.
I have reports from game wardens in British Columbia, Washington
state and Oregon, and other places across the US and Canada that
millions of birds are dying; like the Shearwater Gulls are
dying. The Canadian geese are returning and their chicks are
dying of this strange virus, which we are pretty certain is the
H5N1 Avian flu, so there is already a pandemic among birds. But
until a few months ago it couldnít grow in less than 106 degrees
[Fahrenheit] because of the
Well, in the wild, we discovered that the PB2 gene change is
present in some places in Asia. But the PB2 gene change is
already in the H1N1 virus. This new lab virus has that PB2 that
allows it to grow in human nasal mucous areas, and it also has a
full receptor binding domain so that it can attach to human
cells very efficiently. And if it acquires the H gene, which is
the 6 polybasic amino acids, it can grow on brain and other
The other changes, including the deletion on the NS1, is going
to allow it to completely bypass the immune system. So itís
going to be able to transfer the lethality from the H5N1, that
is already killing millions of birds, into humans and possibly
other animals, etcetera.
So thatís going to come in waves. It could occur over a period
of two months or even one wave after another. In 1918 the first
wave was relatively mild flu that killed very few people. It was
more like a serious typical flu. And when it came back in the
late summer and early fall - the second wave - it started
killing people very, very seriously with a case fatality rate
between two-and-a-half to five percent.
We donít have all the statistics in now but we are guessing that
the current case fatality for the more lethal strain in Mexico
is probably around ten percent, which is pretty high. My guess
is that, as it acquires new genes, that case fatality rate will
rise up toward 20 to 30 percent.
The biggest danger is that, because of fear, transportation,
travel, and infrastructure - including distribution of food and
goods - will stop or shut down significantly. Thatís where the
government will declare martial law and close the borders, and
try to control transportation, so food and other materials are
still being shipped to the big cities. Otherwise, the chaos will
actually cause more problems.
In fact, we did a computer
simulation in Denver back in the í90s and we estimated if there
was a total shutdown of infrastructure caused by the fear of a
pandemic it would kill more people than the actual virus.
BR: In a sense, Dr. Bill, it doesnít really matter what the
lethality is, or even if there really is an outbreak at all, if
enough people believe there is and
the media is used in the way
that we know that it can be used.
BR: Actually, thatís all they need to do.
KC: Then what weíre talking about here is people actually
staying in observer mode and taking a step back. What I
understand is: normal flu kills 30,000 to 50,000 people a year
in the United States.
BD: That statistic is actually one that they always throw out
and it is actually based on an estimate. Itís not a real number
and it is not based on actual facts. The flu itself, basically,
unless youíre in a debilitated state, usually doesnít cause a
problem. The difference with the 1918 flu is that it strikes the
young and healthy because it bypasses the bodyís immune system
until it overwhelms the body. You can incubate it for 8 days and
people donít even know. Youíre not even sneezing or coughing,
but youíre touching your face or other body parts and passing it
to other people. [Then you can] spike a fever and have a seizure
and in 45 minutes be dead.
KC: Okay, I understand this. Youíre a doctor, Dr. Bill. If we
could talk about
how they can prevent this?
BD: Well the first thing they need to think of is, number one,
this is just a bug. Like any bug. In fact, itís probably no more
transmissible than the regular flu. The First Line Of Defense
Kit I put together has the
Nutridefense which blocks the virus
that attaches to the cells with a special magnesium salt of ECGC
catagens, and it has monolauren that blocks viruses so that they
Nutrimmune boosts the natural killer cells to fight all
pathogens. It has the Defense Wipes. It has monolauren and
lauric acid and nisin to shift all viruses and all bacterial
cell walls, but it is totally biodegradable so it wonít destroy
the environment. And we have the NanoMasks; and we have a good
supply of those at the moment although it is going quickly.
The reason I mention this is that people can try to get other
things. If they canít get this, they want to get at least a
NIOSH N100 mask. If they use things that are antibacterial off
the shelf of, say Wal-Mart, theyíre not going to work because
they are not anti-viral. Theyíre antibacterials and they are
fairly mild, like Purell Soap.
You want to prevent a primary infection so something as simple
as our silver salt, called Super Silver, is the only one with a
U.S. patent. The government and homeland security, for the past
four years, have been buying literally container loads of this.
And the reason is they know this works because we have tested it
in labs in Brazil and overseas, and in the United States. It
will kill a high pathogen like Avian flu. Weíve done actual
tests in lab animals.
We know it will prevent primary infection, so as simple as a
teaspoon three times a day of the
SuperSilver will do that. It
is the same with our medical grade allicin and our very unique
NutriDine. Other things people take, like they say: Well Iím
going to take Oregano, or Iím going to... Those will help a
little but there is no evidence that they are anywhere near in
the class of the things that weíre talking about.
You do not want to get a primary infection. If you get a primary
infection with these organisms itís very, very dangerous because
it is one of the higher pathogenic strains. There is no warning
before you are going to hit a crisis, say a week or ten days
after you get infected.
KC: Okay, my understanding is that colloidal silver is not the
same thing as the type of silver you are supposed to be using.
BD: Well, colloidal... Yeah, this is a hundred times stronger.
Colloidal silver is a large particle and different sized
particles. The Super Silver is a silver salt so it doesnít
bio-accumulate in the body. It is a uniform particle size which
is tuned to a scalar frequency like Tesla to 910 terahertz, so
it shatters the bonds of all pathogens. It has a tetra silver
oxygen wrap on the molecule so that it actually creates a scalar
signal. It has a capacity to penetrate through biofilms so it
can kill at a distance. It doesnít even need to get in direct
contact with the pathogens.
So itís very unique. It has three patents on the technology that
no other silver, including OxySilver, Mild Silver Protein, any
other silver in the world. Now I had Dr. Gordon Peterson on,
heís work with the Homeland Security on a program called
AeroClave, and they havenít... I havenít talked to him in about
a month and a half.
I donít know if they signed a contract but he has actually
worked with Homeland Security. AeroClave will clear any
international aircraft, like a Boeing 767, in 45 seconds of all
pathogens, resistant TB, viruses, bacteria, by putting an
aerosol into the aircraft and quickly vacuuming it out of the
aircraft. It will kill all pathogens in 45 seconds.
KC: Okay, do they use it?
BD: They canít. I donít know if they have. He has already done
presentations with them. An independent company that he worked
with developed it for the airline industry and the government.
This is the only silver that has been tested to do this. No
other one. The government has the information; they have the
research and we have the tests.
Now if people were to get one thing thatís compact and easy to
carry, the one I would recommend is our NutriDine which is
diatomic. Itís very unique. It is a formula that was conceived
and prophesied by
So we have the
NutrioDine. It will quell all known pathogens. We
have a clinic in India that is using this for the Untouchables
that canít get any healthcare there, and weíre using it to put
AIDS into remission and to treat topical and internal cancers.
Itíll kill all known pathogens and parasites.
The NutriDine is
so powerful that as little as ten drops, three times a day, will
kill all known pathogens; taken orally.
KC: Are you familiar with MMS? [ed. note:
BD: MMS is a chlorine dioxide and it has been used for many
years to kill pathogens. The problem is: any chlorinated
molecule will attach to amide groups of amino acids so as well
as an antipathogenic it also displaces iodine from the
mitochondria so can cause problems with toxicity, so I wouldnít
It will clear pathogens, just like antibiotics will. I think
it's a very good antipathogenic but it has toxicity because itís
going to attach to... itís going to release chlorine. Chlorine
will attach to amide groups of amino acids and other molecules.
It will form chloramines and therefore I believe it has
toxicity. There is no need for that. The only safe halide is
iodine in the body. Any other halide, which includes fluoride,
bromide or chloride, or chlorine molecules, have toxicity.
BR: I had the pleasure of
meeting personally with
Jim Humble a
few months ago, and heís the first to admit that heís not a
microbiologist or a medical doctor. If one was pretty seriously
sick, MMS might not be a bad option.
BD: If you can only mix this together and that is the only thing
you have, absolutely, use it. For example, I am shipping at my
own expense to some of these other companies, to our
missionaries overseas, case lots of NutrioDine. Iím doing that at
my own expense so that they have it. They already have cases.
Weíre able to cure intracerebral malaria, parasites, worms; we
It sterilizes the water. So I would say, yeah, if you have no
choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a choice...
because if you do it for any length of time, youíre likely to
accumulate biotoxins. You know, obviously if you have a choice
between life and death use your MMS, but if you have
alternatives, you would be best to get the NutriDine first, and
then the SuperSilver or Allimed Allicin.
Allimed Allicin is a medical drug administered by doctors in
Europe but I have access to sell it here in North America
without a prescription. This will kill all pathogens. Itíll kill
Lyme disease, viruses, bacteria. We have proof that we can even
give it to someone thatís on intravenous antibiotics thatís in
the ICU [Intensive Care Unit] and it will save their life. We do
that all the time, everyday.
Thatís the way I would approach it
is that yes, it will save lives but itís toxic.
BR: OK. Thatís very clear, Bill, thank you very much for that.
BD: Youíre welcome.
BR: I think a lot of people wouldnít disagree with you, and I
think that itís one of these things thatís good for the
occasional emergency, but prolonged use probably is not the
BD: Oh yeah. People who take it daily, as a preventive or for a
period of months or years, are going to get problems. But itís
the same thing as people drinking water thatís heavily
chlorinated or with fluoride. You accumulate fluoride, and it
calcifies the choroid plexus and the ventricles and the pineal
gland, and it literally shuts down the third eye and astral eye
so you canít see torsional vortex images, and you canít see transdimensionally.
So in terms of the spirit, it actually cuts off what is called
the Cord of Living Waters so all halides, other than iodine,
block and attack that part of the brain. It attacks the
connection of the pineal gland in the sense of the Cord of
Living Waters and the higher dimensional reality of what we are.
Chlorine is toxic. Itís one of the reasons why they push
chlorination of water, and fluoridation... [itís] why they want
to push Sulfuryl fluoride. Which, by the way, isnít only even
more toxic but itís 17,000 times more of a heat reflective when
it gets in the upper atmosphere (and it doesnít degrade) than
even carbon dioxide or methane.
BR: My only question now really is: what do you expect to see
this summer in North America?
BD: Well, to be honest with you, we could stop this pretty
quickly if we decided to take decisive action. If, for example,
and I put this list together and we had a number of conferences
with the military and other people in the last few weeks through
Plains Radio. Carmen Reynolds is a Colonel in the Army.
The issue is this: If we decided to close the borders
immediately; if we decided to screen everybody with a swab to
determine if they carry a virus, and track them if they show
positive for an Influenza A virus - which you can do a simple
screening test - you may not get a subtype but youíll see if
they are a carrier of the virus. If we were then to make certain
that, in areas where there are outbreaks like in Mexico City, we
would fly in large heavy-lift aircraft with existing...
Not drugs. We are not talking about
hallucinations, which will hallucinate you, and in some cases
some people are so sensitive they actually... Itís like taking
PCP or Angel dust. It is a very, very serious bad trip. You
donít want people walking around that are, say military service
people, with body flak jackets on and Scott Air Packs under
stress taking TAMIFLU and hallucinating.
When you give these drugs like TAMIFLU, already H1N1 worldwide
is resistant to it. Amantadine, Ramitidine, and TAMIFLU.
current strains they are saying are sensitive to it, but in
within four days of exposing a population to a continuous virus,
youíll start seeing resistance show up. So in other words, if
you use it now, you donít have something to use on someone whoís
dying from a very serious infection. They have got a resistant
strain in their body because two weeks or two months ago you
gave that population TAMIFLU.
What they should be giving are
NutrioDine, Super Silver or Allicin.
If they simply gave, for example, the average person...
if they took one of our products that is called
Greens with Allicin. If they simply took 180 mg of allicin,
three times a day, they would probably not get a primary
We have already done a study with ferrets and other animals in
Brazil with high pathogenic Avian flu, and we transferred the
weight on this - and this is actual studies done last year -
that one teaspoon of our Super Silver silver salt for an average
70 kg adult will prevent a primary infection.
We know the same thing with our troops with our
put in the NutriDefense something so that if they are exposed to
anthrax or spores that you cut out 98 percent chance of the
possibility of infection by just taking one NutriDefense per
day. 98 percent.
So thereís extremely simple things like personal hygiene,
travel... If every aircraft had a hepa viral filter; if they
cleared every aircraft with the AeroClave system which already
exists. There is a company where itís available right now. The
airlines could gear up literally today to put it in place. This
would die out in a matter of a week or two and the panic would
If we would fly into countries where there are outbreaks, like
Mexico City, and give these antipathogenics and start making
sure all airliners in different countries use these
technologies, the problem would die out in a month or so. And we
would have some deaths, but we would have it under control.
What Iím concerned about is I think their agenda is they want to
have enough crisis as a cover for the new financial system which
theyíre setting up. Because already thereís a contraction of the
world economy and 40 percent of the worldís wealth has
disappeared. That disappearance is also [inaudible] by the
And this is stated - and I had Joan Veon on my show just a few
days ago - that the world financial experts at the
International Settlements that just met in Europe is that the
current world economy can only support 5 billion people but
there are 6.5 billion plus people on the Earth, which means 1.5
billion are ďexcess populationĒ based on the finances of our
current world economy.
this crisis so that
people cannot, with a dayís work, get a dayís food. So third
world countries now, with the financial famine; theyíre
compounding it because thereís climate shift and that
shift is going to get considerably worse.
And this is something I want to say prophetically: starting this
next month, May and going through to JulyĖAugust, thereís going
to be a shift in under-oceanic currents in the Southern
hemisphere. The first warning was the explosion of Tonga that
came through the ocean surface with a 7.9 earthquake several
Whatís going to happen is under-oceanic volcanism is going to
change the climate, increase rainfall dramatically in some
areas, in other areas there will be major floods and in other
areas there will be increased and more serious drought. This, by
just climate shift, will cause more food shortages. Crops will
be flooded out because of the change in world air currents.
normal climate will be out the window.
So when you combine that with a pandemic... and the
Index now for shipment of manufactured goods as well as food is
at its lowest since the second world war. We have a situation
where theyíre purposely compounding it and there could be a very
simple solution. So we need to get these solutions through to
The Powers That Be to say: this could be stopped tomorrow.
We could solve the worldís financial problems by correcting and
Like, for example, the country of
Canada was much more responsible. They didnít allow the banking
industry to turn it into a casino. We could make sure that we
bring food into the third world countries because when you have
starvation it increases the weakened immune system to make
viruses more aggressive.
So if this virus gets into a population
that is starving, itís going to be transformed into a more
aggressive deadly virus for us as well.
And we need to stabilize the world banking system without taking
away the sovereignty of nations or transferring power to a bunch
of international bankers that are not elected. So everything
weíre doing right now is actually leading us toward more chaos
rather than order and it could be stopped tomorrow, including
stopping this from turning into a true worldwide pandemic where
millions or even billions could die, stabilizing our financial
situation, and then dealing with the food supply by starting to
gear-up food production and supporting it so that there is no
farmers or businesses going out of business.
And we have the proper stabilization of our economy so the
bubble economy, the illegal debt instruments that they have been
circulating, we donít poor trillions more into the banks that
are doing this. We put them into the debt restructuring as
Lyndon LaRouche has said, and we get rid of these debt
instruments. We put a moratorium on foreclosures of businesses
and homes, we stabilize the food supplies of the third world so
that they are not priced out of the staples that keep them
alive, and we maintain control of international travel so that
we donít allow this pandemic to shut down the world economy.
chances that it could shut it down, if we have a major high
pathogenic death rate, is incredibly likely by this fall if we
donít do these measures now.
KC: Dr. Bill, thank you for that; thatís quite an overview. I
have a couple of questions I want to ask you and we can discuss
whether or not you want to go off the record with the answers or
KC: First of all, Iíve had some conversations with Cliff High,
you know who he is?
BD: Yes, Cliff High. I think he is with the
Half Past Human. Thatís Half Past Human, isnít it?
KC: Yes, Half Past Human.
KC: And, he has said... You know, he actually has quite a bit of
animosity toward you, and he has said that he thinks that you
get a lot of your information from him.
BD: No, I donít.
KC: And I find that hard to believe myself, but I wanted to give
you a chance to respond to that here if you want.
BD: I only had one conversation with Cliff and I talked to him
once; called him and just: Hey, Iíve heard you on Jeff Renseís
program. You said some pretty remarkable things that match up
with what I say. And I want to share with him not only my first
hand information, like this information I had from the World
Health Organization and other sources that are, if you want to
call it ďclassifiedĒ or the fact that I work with the
government, and also the intuitive side.
And he was a little
upset about that. He said: I donít want to talk to you about it.
And I said: Okay, thatís fine.
And thatís my only conversation; he seemed very upset about
that. And, I donít subscribe to Half Past Human. The only
information Iíve had is the occasional time Iíve been able to
listen to him on Coast-to-Coast radio or Jeff Rense. Thatís it.
So, if thereís something...
KC: Okay, well he has told us that actually you had a doctor or
somebody giving you that information.
BD: No, I donít.
BD: No I donít.
KC: Itís very strange that when he...
BD: Now, why would he say that?
KC: I donít know. I actually donít know.
BD: Why would he say that? Thatís kind of strange. Hereís the
fact, okay? What heís doing basically is mining information from
the global subconscious. In a sense what heís doing is; itís in
a sense, almost like a... the best way to describe it would be a
syntactical and emotive language global subconscious Ouija
board. I guess that would be the best way. And he can pull up
Thereís a bow shockwave of reality that bounces back toward the
consciousness so that, in a subconscious way, people know. For
example, people have precognition that there may be an accident
or a relative that is sick or dying. So heís just pulling that
information out. Thereís many intuitives, whether itís people
like my friend John Boncore, who is a Mohawk prophet.
Thereís people in all kinds of intuitives and psychics, and
people that use
remote viewing that can see events coming. But
as I tell people, theyíre not solids; theyíre liquids. Theyíre
not yet frozen. Thereís a degree of choice and timeline which is
why Iím doing this presentation right now.
We, as a global consciousness, get to choose which of those
timelines. And my job is to act like the guy at the side of the
road where there is a branch in the road and there are no road
signs. So you ask the guide at the side of the road: Which road
should I go down with my little cart?
And Iíll say: Well, you donít want to go down this road here
because it leads into the bottom of a valley where thereís a
jungle and thereís alligators and wild animals. But over here,
ten miles down the road, thereís a community of nice people.
Theyíll feed you, theyíll will give you good shelter, etcetera.
Thatís what my job is to do. Now, so when I contacted him Iím
not sure why he got so upset about this. It completely boggled
me because I thought: Well, this is really good. Weíre having
people from various different... how can I say, mining the
information whether they are psychics or intuitives, or they are
doing something like this, which is looking for a language
thatís embedded into the internet and using these web-bots to be
able to go search for it. So, I thought it was a good thing. I
was really surprised at his response.
KC: He believes you are an agent.
BD: An agent of what?
KC: That you work for the government?
BD: Oh, come on! Thatís so ridiculous.
KC: Okay. Now, youíve worked for the government in the past
BD: No, I was a civilian doctor. I was an occupational doctor.
KC: But in black projects?
BD: No-no. Let me explain here. Yeah, right. Those kind of
accusations you hear all the time. Itís ridiculous. Do they
realize the danger - the physical danger, the career danger -
that Iíve gone through in order to tell people the truth? They
have no idea. Iím like a William Wallace, okay?
When I worked in occupational medicine back in the early í80s,
they made a decision in the government that they no longer
wanted to have a lot of jobs done by people inside the military.
Because they either didnít have the expertise, they wanted to
hire a company and if they werenít satisfied with the work that
was done by that company (i.e., medical or contract for specific
things), so they started contracting out; especially during the
era of Bill Clinton.
So what they did, is they contracted for me.
And my first major
job for C-Com: to contract C-Com to handle Fort Carson, NORAD,
Falcon Air Force Base, U.S. Space Strategic Command, the GPS
Military-Grade system, and Directed Energy Weapons.
why I was their doctor was simply because I was their doctor. I
took care of people that worked in these things; worked around
these toxic things, worked around rocket labs, and I was their
physician. They were not permitted, most of these people, to
even talk to their colleagues who were in the next room, let
alone the next building. But they would talk to their doctor.
And the only difference was with me, is that because I have a
technical background in nuclear physics, advanced computing,
electronics, biotechnology; they would share with me. And after
a while, because Iím a talker, they were more interested in what
I would have to say about the bigger picture about what was
going on at their facility, and they were more interested in
telling me their little piece - thatís very, very
compartmentalized - than what I would tell them.
KC: Yes, I've heard you say that.
BD: So thatís the reason why I have...
KC: I understand that, but Iím just trying to run these things
by you so that you understand what youíre up against out there.
There seems to be...
BD: I have people who have written books as long as ten years
ago when I spoke at the Prophecy Club, that literally - I canít
believe this - but literally have written a book that Iím the
antichrist. I mean, how foolish! [Kerry laughs] I mean, every
day I put my personal life, my career, everything on the line to
be the whistleblower for...
In fact, I just did an audio for tenth anniversary of Columbine.
I was the examiner for the Englewood Fire Department and the
first young man shot in Columbine outside the restaurant there,
Mark Taylor. I was the exit examiner for the 5 Special Op Team
of the Oklahoma City Memorial Building. I have been trying to do
radial toxicology testing on the World Trade Center debris, and
Iím writing the position paper which Iím going to present at We
Are Change, New York City, on the eighth anniversary of
Iíve been told by my radial toxicology colleagues, because I
have advanced training in radial chemistry, that if I order the
tests the Department of Defense and the FBI will arrest me
immediately for requesting the tests of debris which I have from
the World Trade Center. Further proving that they not only
used Thermite and other high explosives, but
they used nuclear bombs
in the buildings, okay?
KC: Okay, you know...
BD: People need to realize that I am a whistleblower central.
Thatís why my Genesis [Communication Network radio show]... The
number one reason, number one, that I did this is: twelve years
ago, when I spoke at Human Life International in Zurich on the
super-soldier program, which they tried to recruit me to in 1978
at UCLA VA/Wadsworth Hospital and I turned them down, is because
I have the documents and the proof that they were trying to
create a pandemic flu to bring the world, and literally we are
going to enter the new world order with a mask. This is their
plan. I had the documents 12 years ago.
So four years ago when I started my show it was to warn the
people and tell them to get ready because this could be stopped
very easily. We can decide for a future where millions do not
need to die, and the economy does not need to shut down, and we
donít need to have chaos in our cities.
KC: Okay. You know I appreciate everything that youíve said and
I was just trying to give you a chance to respond publicly to
all of that, and if youíre willing, weíll go ahead and release
this part of this.
BD: Yes. Now hereís the thing that is important, okay?
BD: People need two things: They need to use their intellect...
to study. And me, I tell them: Donít believe, just read. Okay?
Read the stuff that is in the open media before they hear me or
anything thatís here on Project Camelot. And then they need to
be very quiet and very humble, and need to pray and say: Now was
what Deagle saying true? Or what Half Past Human is saying true,
or any other person thatís an intuitive or psychic or a remote
viewer or whatever.
Then they need to follow through with action. Because in my
heart I donít want our society to shut down. I donít want people
to die. I donít want our culture to become a matrix. I donít
want horror to happen.
We have a timeline where we are getting closer and closer to
where some of these issues become more inevitable if we donít
change our trajectory, if we donít change the way we make
choices, not just personally. And we have to stop this
backbiting, this foolishness; and thereís a degree of jealousy,
too. I mean, to be honest with you, Iím a messianic believer,
okay? Iím for all religions that firstly have spirituality and a
connection with the Creator God and the Universe. All, okay?
But I want people to understand there is no room in our modern
world, whether itís Half Past Human or any of the ďChristian,
Jewish, or other churchesĒ for a real prophet, and thatís what
Iím called to speak as. Thereís no room.
And I can tell you
that. They do not want someone to come in and tell them that I
was supernaturally given a command to go to Zurich, Switzerland
and receive these documents which I didnít expect to receive.
And then to have a number of events happen so I would be the
number one whistleblower that the flu pandemic was coming.
Even inside the truth movement, Iíve received so much
persecution from even other truthers who believe 9/11 was an
inside job. You would not believe it, okay? But Iím willing to
do the right thing because I have the truth and I have a concern
and care for people.
BD: They need to see my heart. And if they are jealous of that,
get over it. Iím not here to play games or egos; Iím here to
serve my Creator God and save my fellow mankind and all living
things on this earth from a horrible end. And thatís where we
We have to wake up and stop this pandemic, stop the economic
stop the State of Israel which is planning with our
help to make a northern attack of nuclear sites and 1250 targets
inside Iran. We already have a dialogue going on. We need to
pray, for example, for President Obama that he
will not serve his globalist masters but he will do the right thing so we can
If any of these one things happen, itís a perfect storm from
hell. We are going to face a future that is going to be so
noxious, so dangerous - people canít imagine what we are facing
- but we can turn away from it. We do not need to go there.
KC: Thank you, Bill. Thatís very, very, very succinct. I would
like to ask you, regarding the Israel situation, you say they
have targets within Iran. When are you saying that they are
planning to attack Iran?
BD: I donít have a prophetic word but I can tell you from my
military, and also classified sources as well, the Israelis are
going to do a full nationwide war game in June. Theyíre also,
this year (without a month designated), doing a U.S. Space
Command Anti-Missile Star Wars Weapon Simulation with the United
States and Israel. They do now have TAD, which is Theater Air
Defense. ItĎs an advanced Anti-Weapons System, along with the
scalar plasma weapon and the chemical laser systems, able to
knock out missiles that are coming into Israel. The problem
KC: Youíre saying they are going to do an exercise. When,
BD: Theyíre doing an exercise in June (2009). Thatís next month.
KC: And thatís within Israel or with the U.S. and Israel?
BD: Within Israel. Now, there is another game going on with
space command that is supposed to be sometime this year and I
donít know what month yet, because my sources canít tell me.
But, the one in Israel is June.
KC: Okay. Within these games sometimes, as what happened with
9/11, the game becomes a cover for some actual operation that
BD: Exactly. So it could occur in June during this game. The
reason we look for it is that in order to do a modern advanced
war you need whatís called air based intelligence, etcetera,
which is why they do supercomputers. Theyíve got Space Based
GPS. They have to have all their material in place, so itís
very, very likely that the attack will occur in June during this
war game. If it doesnít itís going to happen from that point to
probably the early fall.
If we permit them to do it, the Strait of Hormuz and I was told
this supernaturally 20 years ago - the Strait of Hormuz will be
cut off. All the oil which goes to... about 80 percent of it
goes to Asian countries. Indonesia, China, South Korea will
loose their major supply of oil and the world economy will
collapse. The disarray will cause the starvation of a billion
This we can avoid if we prevent Israel from making an attack.
There is no need; as the dialogue is already started between
Obama and Ahmadinejad, who is now going to the elections in the
next few weeks. Ahmadinejad is now talking, which is a miracle.
If we do not move toward peace, the war that we are going to see
is not just going to take out people downwind of the
Bushehr reactor, which is 62 tons of Uranium 35, but there is 1250
targets they are going to hit with nuclear weapons including
neutron bombs, bunker busters, and these new advanced, whatís
called plasma warheads, okay?
If they do this, I cannot say that we will not have an exchange
of other weapons. And almost certainly, and this is from actual
sources, there are sleeper agents inside the United States,
Canada and Western world in Britain, that have third generation
bioweapons developed by Russian scientists for the past 18 years
since Glasnost and Perestroika. When these scientists were
starving, the Syrians and Iranians hired them, and they have the
most advanced biological weapons in history. They will make even
the so-called hybrid flu look like it is nothing.
So the point is that we can turn back, but we need to hear. The
reason I speak now as a prophet is to tell them: Turn back now
because there is the way of light and safety and peace and the
Coat of Many Colors of Joseph, who is my Father, okay? Because
Iím of the tribe of Ephraim, or Joseph.
KC: Okay, yes. I appreciate that. You have to understand that we
get people... I mean, to call yourself a prophet, this is not
unusual. There are many, many, many people out there right now
considering themselves the same way you consider yourself.
BD: I know. I hear about it all the time. Itís really... itís
disturbing. Anybody who wants to be a prophet is... how can I
say, itís a job no one wants to apply for. If you do, itís
because you are imbalanced. I do not want to do this job. I
tried to escape it many times. Believe me, I have been swallowed
in the belly of the whale.
KC: Okay, well...
BD: Iíve been put in the place of these things. If you want to
do it, itís like cleaning a latrine while itís still being used
and you are under it, okay?
KC: Well, Bill, you know Project Camelot could be put in that
same category. Weíre actually... All of the people that are
trying to warn the masses, if you will, as to whatís really
going on could be classified as prophets. Itís better if we stay
out of the sort of evangelical perspective of ourselves and kind
of, you know...
BD: Thereís something I need to clarify. Thereís many people
that receive a prophetic word, have an intuitive knowledge, have
a technology that they use...
BD: ...just like thereís ďprophetsĒ that are coming out of the
Hopi Indian tribe and others. But thereís those who ďdonít just
operate and receive the prophetic wordĒ now and then, but
operate in the office of the prophet. I have to say this
repeatedly so people understand it: the reason why Iíve been in
all these places is because they needed trust.
Thereís lots of things I donít know, okay? There are lots of
areas Iím not an expert in. But when I speak in an area like
this flu or these wars or other things, Iím speaking in the
office of a prophet. Someone who has the authority and right to
say it. And you need to understand we have a choice now.
KC: I appreciate that. We are going to try to wrap this up right
here now. Bill Deagle has to go as well. So I wanted to thank
you, Dr. Bill Deagle for your willingness to confront and to be
open and talk about issues that are sometimes antagonistic to
yourself. Thatís a wonderful trait that you have and I just want
to honor you for that.
BD: Yes, in fact, we actually had a reconciliation; with Donna
and Mark Taylor. I actually spoke with them through a live audio
connection at the tenth anniversary of Columbine. That
negativity, by the way, arose because they had an offer from a
movie company to take the script, which we had been working on
for over a year, into a big movie.
We didnít agree on the modus by which it was going to happen.
They had been offered a lot of money and we didnít want it to be
degraded. We wanted the truth to be brought out rather than to
have it spawn into something else. And thatís all reconciled.
So, out of my discussion with you on that...
KC: Okay, well, thank you for that.
BD: ...so I can thank Project Camelot. Now I want to say one
thing. Thereís a chorus - itís not just myself - thereís a
chorus of people who truly are called to speak prophetically
that need to rise up and say the truth, after being very humble
and making sure they donít have a personal agenda, that we need
to turn back from this.
We have people like Iím going to have on
the program shortly, John Boncore, whoís a Mohawk prophet. He
was prophesized hundreds of years ago by his own people.
Thereís Hopi prophets, thereís jewish prophets, thereís christian, thereĎs a list. Thereís people all over the world
that are, literally I call The Coat of Many Colors. Every skin
color, every nation, every religion who are starting to know
itís a time of decision for mankind. We need to turn back now or
weíre going to face a whole confluence of super storms of
economic, climate shift, biological warfare, and evil.
For example, thereís very good evidence from
Len Horowitz, and I
believe he is correct, that the World Health Organization, the
CDC and Novavax are behind this latest release of this
weaponized plague thatís been released in Mexico City.
The globalists have published in their documents that they want to
reduce the world population. We do not need to go there.
We can have an alternative future where mankind is safe. Where
people have true human rights. Where people have the right to
grow and to believe and to have safety and healthcare and food
and not be exposed to toxic poisons or electromagnetic radiation
and have some degree of autonomy.
But we are heading toward a
world where autonomy is going to be a thing of the past, where
mass starvation and violence are going to rule, and I donít want
to see us go there.
But we need to turn back now because we have
a matter of months, not years left, to make that turn.
KC: Okay, thank you, Bill. Bill Ryan, is there anything you want
to say before we end this here?
BR: I just want to say thank you very much Bill. Thereís total
consistency with everything youíre saying now and everything
that a lot of people have heard or watched you say in your 2006
Granada Forum lecture. We have a team of transcribers who are
transcribing that, and thatís nearly finished now, and we are
going to make that available to you as soon as we can for
publication on your site and everywhere, so the whole thingís
Google searchable; translatable. We want to get this information
out there and support you fully in everything youíre doing.
BD: Well, I want to pray for people and for you, too - both
you, Kerry, and Bill - for the wonderful work youíre doing to
try to get people to realize that we are co-creators of our own
future. Weíre not a victim of the future; we are the co-creator,
but we also have to take our scepter. We have to also realize
that if someone dies in a third world country thatís an
untouchable in India, or someone in Mexico City thatís living on
a garbage heap dies, we die. Some portion of us dies too.
If we allow the use of
depleted uranium weapons to kill little
girls in the Gaza City by Israeli troops, or we allow nuclear
weapons to drop on the Bushehr reactor and downwind millions die
from radiation poisoning, we die too. If we can feel that
connectedness in spirit, as a cell in the body of mankind, we
would repent and weíd turn back from that.
KC: Okay thank you. Very well put. All right, Iím going to close
this down then. Thank you very much, Dr. Bill Deagle.
BD: Thank you Kerry, I really appreciate it. Thank you Bill Ryan
and God bless everyone. Nowís the time to have a backbone to
stand up for the truth and to pray and to be humble and call on
our creator to stand us up on our feet so that we can tell the
truth to others that we have to turn back from war, from
pestilence, and from economic greed and the idea that we need to
reduce the world population with lies like a carbon tax...
BD: ...and all these other evils.
KC: All right thank you very much.
BD: Take care.
BR: Thank you, Dr. Bill.
BD: Youíre welcome. Bye.