Patte : Hi, this is Patte
Purcell welcome to the Next Dimension Out of this world talk
radio on talk America, tonight my guest is Alex Collier, the
author of ‘Defending Sacred Ground’
- The Andromedan compendium,
Alex had a very unique experience in that he has been in direct
contact with the Andromedan extra terrestrials for over 20
years. Good evening Alex are you there?
Alex : Yes Patte I am, hi.
Patte : Hi how are you
Alex : I’m great.
Patte : Were going to be discussing some very interesting
aspects of your contact with the andromedans tonight including
extra terrestrial existence, time travel, underground bases, and
the world as a hologram, and I know that you will be
enlightening our listeners as to a lot of these areas, we do
have a quick break that we have to go to and when we come back
we will start with Alex, and for all of those who would like to
contact him your new web site is
is that right?
Alex : That is correct
Patte : Okay, is there a number that they can call to receive
more information if they like or get a copy of your book?
Alex : Yes there is, its 303-215-1923.
Patte : Okay we will be back in a moment if you have questions
for Alex were at a 1-888-22TALK and we will be discussing Alex’s
direct contact with the Andromedan extra terrestrials when we
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension out of this world talk radio on talk America my guest
is Alex Collier author of Defending Sacred Ground, the
Andromedan Compendium. Alex, Why don’t you just go ahead and
tell us about how you were first contacted by the Andromedans.
Alex : I was 8 years old it was in the northern peninsula of
Michigan, and it was a family picnic, and it was in the middle
of the afternoon, and I experienced what would be considered
classic missing time, and basically I was beamed on board a
space craft and when I woke up I was lying on a table and I was
being given an exam by two beings, two men, one was very tall,
with light blue skin, with no hair, and the other was a very
small man, pale white and they introduced themselves, and what
was amazing was that I had absolute instant recognition to them.
Patte : Really
Alex : Yeah, it was like I absolutely know them. You know how
when you meet somebody you just know you know them?, it was like
that they spoke to me telepathically, very much like we’re
talking now, except there were no words, they didn’t move their
lips, but I heard them just as clear as your hearing me, and
some of your listeners, it just, the whole thing evolved, from
there, that first time they showed me who I was, my relationship
to them and basically the experience began that moment.
Patte : Now you were eight years old at that time when you said
that you were beamed on board, were you taken up in some tractor
beam, or do you recall that portion of it.
Alex : Well, it, you know, its not exactly a tractor beam, no I
did not recall the first time how I got on board, but,
you know, obviously since then I’ve learnt how it works.
Essentially what it is, you know the laser pointer that you
use on a board during a lecture?
Its a blue light and its
literally that thin, and what happens is the minute it scans
and touches your body, it breaks down all of your atoms, and
your atoms travel up this beam light as if it was
optical fibre, on board the craft
Patte : Wow!
Alex : Once your there you assimilate back into your original
form and there you are [laughing]
Patte : and there you are
Alex : and there you are.
Patte : Go ahead, when you said that they showed who you were,
how did they show that to you
Alex : Well while we are sitting on the table Patte, they, put
this little cap on my head and it looked, like a
was some kind of a metal, alloy, except it had a hole in the
centre, and immediately, Moraney had this little clicker in his
hands, and on the walls were there were no monitors, TV's, there
was just nothing but bare wall suddenly, monitors, and the
things began to appear, on the wall like out of thin air, and,
the monitors had images, they were literally showing movies,
some were monitoring my physicality, for which I think was more
for them then it was for me.
The screen, that was very much like
a television screen but it was liquid, it its made of a liquid,
its like our television but its liquid, and because its liquid,
it gives a complete, 3d dimension, its almost as if you could
jump into, the screen and be, there, that’s how real it is.
saw all these scenes, and as I'm watching these scenes in front
of me, I'm getting totally emotionally involved, and by the time
it was over I absolutely had total recognition, that what I had
just seen, was me, that I had seen specific events, that were
past life experiences for me, now this whole process, seemed
like it was 15 minutes, but later, I was told that it was the
equivalent of 4 hours I had been watching all of this.
Patte : You mentioned the name Moraney, was that the taller one
or the shorter one?
Alex : Moraney is the taller one, Vasais is the shorter one.
Patte : Vasais, okay. now you said that you had this instant
recognition of them and that you knew who they
were, did they show you their inner relation with them
Alex : No it did not
Patte : Okay how did you recognize the fact that you, you knew
them or had this contact with them, was this just telepathic
Alex : No no no, on a soul level the recognition is there,
that’s how most of us have deja vous.
Patte : Okay
Alex : Because the soul recognizes someone’s energy. You know,
when you meet somebody that you meet for the first time, or you
think you’ve met them for the first time, and you have this
instant recognition, this instant liking, it is your soul
acknowledging the fact that it knows the vibration of the person
you’ve just met.
Okay and our conscious and our subconscious,
our conscious mind doesn’t know that because its here in real
time, we’re in the moment, where your subconscious doesn’t know
time. It doesn’t know time at all, it records things, and blends
things all at once, whether its a present life or a past life.
Through my conversations with them, afterwards and the
continuous teachings, I came to learn, when they were here
62,000 years ago, and this was at a point on our planet when,
there had been a huge, family feud, more or less, to say,
the family of Enki, and the family of Enlil, the
tribe, that was here that
Zecharia Sitchin refers to and talks
about. The Enlil tribe had left for a while, and the Enki tribe
or the Enki family, more or less was in control of the planet,
for a short time and they opened it up to all the other
In other words they tried making it a showcase,
because its so diverse, or our planet used to be so diverse,
with so many different altitudes, and geological formations and
life forms, I mean its just as splendid place, and, the Andromedans were invited here and they had a colony, a small
colony, here for approximately 62 years, between 62-65 years,
and they were at that time.
Patte : Okay, Alex, we do have to a quick break, but we’ll be
back in a couple of minute, and we’re speaking with Alex
Collier, if you have a question we’re at, 1-888-822TALK.
Patte : Hi, this is Patte Purcell, welcome back to ‘The Next
Dimension’ out of this world talk radio, my guest is Alex
Collier. Alex, we were discussing your first visit with the
Andromedans, how often are you in contact with them?
Alex : Well Patte, there’s no pattern, you know it could be
several times a week, and then it could be, once a month, it
could go once six months, once eight months, there was a period
of 10 years I didn’t hear from them at all. So there’s no
Patte : Do they always take you onboard?.
Alex : No no, not always, sometimes its strictly telepathic, I
prefer to go onboard, because its always nice to get away from
gravity here, and just to be in their space, you know earth can
really grind you down. [both laugh]
Patte : We all know that. What’s the ship like, tell us what the
ship is like.
Alex : Its really no frills. The scout craft that usually comes
is approximately 30 ft in diameter, its weird, their bigger on
the inside then they are on the outside. They’ve explained it to
me once, but I absolutely don’t understand it how it is that
way. It has 3 floors, 3 levels, the middle level would be
considered the cockpit, the control room, the navigational
computers, there not like our computers, by any stretch. A lot
of things are liquid, a lot of the gauges and things like that
can just disappear.
The cock floor would be more or less, a
lounge area, a resting area, and the first floor which would be
the bottom floor, is an area where they load cargo, they take
samples, they have a laboratory, where they take samples and
they put them in storage, in a way, some kind of a cryogenic
freeze, its also where they develop there holographic pictures
that they take of, different planets, stars, and things they are
exploring, and researching, and all the ships are like that,
there virtually all identical, with the exception of the mother
ships, the motherboards are just these huge versions, of the
smaller craft, except they are literally, floating cities.
Patte : Are they floating around our earth, or are they far away
Alex : No there’s a lot of activity in our solar system
now, and there always has been, its just that as our technology
gets better we’re seeing more and more.
Patte : So they’ve always been here basically?
Alex : Yeah we’ve always been watched
Patte : Are they hiding behind the clouds like I’ve heard?
Alex : I wouldn’t say hiding behind the clouds, you know, some
people would call it cloak, some people would call it stealth,
all they have to do is raise the vibration of their craft 7
octaves, and they literally disappear from us even they’re right
Patte : So who exactly are the Andromedans? where are
they from?, and what’s there purpose here?
Alex : Well, they’re an extension of an ancient Lyran colony.
Most of the human race in our galaxy, and I need to
differentiate this, and explain this because so many people,
when they are talking about space, they say - “well our
universe, we’re the only planet in the universe, and there’s no
other life in the universe.”
You know, the universe has 100
trillion galaxies, we live in a galaxy, that’s where we have a
central sun, and we have all the other stars and planets and
planetary systems, and star constellations, that rotate around
it... That is a galaxy, that is not a universe, and you know, so
many people get that wrong, that when I’m talking about the
galaxy, they’ll say well does he mean the universe? and I don’t.
The universe is so big that no one has found the end of it yet...
[laughing] Okay, no ones found the end of it.
They, our colony
or were a colony that came out of
Lyra. Now, apparently the
human race was first seeded or colonized, in the ancient Vega
system that we know of as Lyra. Now the human race did not
originate there. To date, at least from the Andromedans, they do
not know exactly where the human race came from, you know, what
we know ourselves to be.
Patte : Okay, Alex, we have to go to news real quick, but we’ll
be back in a few minutes, and we’ll be discussing, more about
the Andromedans and Alex Collier author of ‘Defending Sacred
Ground’ we’ll be back in a moment.
Patte : Hi, this is Patte Purcell, welcome back to the ‘Next
Dimension’ out of this world talk radio, my guest is Alex
Collier. Alex we’ve gotten through some of the basics, lets talk
about what their message is, and why have they contacted you?
Alex : Well Patte, I’m not the only one
Patte : Okay
Alex : There are three others. My understanding is that there’s
going to be a long more and, since I’ve been on a
couple of radio shows I’ve been getting some information back
that there are other people. One of these contactees down in South America has actually contacted us, and
we’re starting to communicate and we’re going
to start sharing some more stories.
When they were here 62,000
years ago they were forced to leave, not only
them but many other colonial races that were here, that had been
invited here, and I was killed before I could
leave, so, they basically came back to say hi, to touch base,
and, to help, their message in a nutshell, has been
you have been manipulated, for a very very long time, you have
incredible potential, more of you would not even
be able to understand your potential.
Now there referring to us
here on earth, we want you to know that on a
genetic level you are considered royalty,
Patte : Wow
Alex : Whatever you put your minds to, you can accomplish. But
it will involve taking full responsibility and having mutual
respect for each other. In a nutshell that’s their message. I
once asked them what our future was going to be, their response
was really quite profound. You know, that is just not an easy
thing to answer. There message has been primarily to try to
Patte : Okay
Alex : They’re not ones to sugar coat it, you know Patte, I’ve
heard so much, so many people talking about love and light, that
everything's okay, and that its going to be okay, and that’s never
been their message.
There message is there are a lot of problems
here and a lot of the problems you have not caused, but you are
propagating, generation after generation because you are not
aware of the history behind world events, and your race. In
their opinion, we as a race are, definitely suffering from an
You know, we do not know who we are, where
we’re going, how we got here, why we’re here, and its obvious we
have not learnt from the past because, we’re continuing to
create a lot of what’s been in our past. As far as wars and so
on and so forth..
Patte : You said that we’ve been manipulated, is this part of
this manipulation is to keep us in this kind of chaotic state?
Alex : Yes because there was a time, where we united as a race,
I mean there have been several times, but the very last time,
was during the time that Nibiru was here, and Mr Sitchin talks
about this in his books,
The Earth Chronicles, and they’re not
an easy read, but I would suggest everybody read them, try to
get through it.
Patte : and this was Nibiru?
Alex : Nibiru, yes, we united because we were slaves, to a group
of extraterrestrial races that were here and we were treated
like slaves, as long as we did what we were told, we were fed,
we were given water, things remained relatively calm, but the
minute we didn’t behave, the truth is they slaughtered us like
we were cattle.
They thought nothing of it, and we rebelled, several times, and
you know, in history the bible refers to ‘let us
confound them and change their languages ‘
Patte : Okay, Alex, I’m sorry we’ll have to take a quick break
we’ll be right back
Alex : Okay Patte.
Patte : This is Patte Purcell, welcome to the next dimension out
of this world talk radio, my guest is Alex Collier.
Alex you said that we’re being manipulated, who is doing the
Alex : Well Patte there are several groups of extraterrestrial
races, that have been here, and you know come back and forth,
let me just say that there is a hierarchy and it primarily stems
out of Orion, Sirius B. Then there have been those lone groups,
the Dow, which the people here on earth here call the
Grays, and there have also been
reptilian races, there have been
Betelgeuse, that have also visited, and have been
manipulating us, even Nibiru manipulated us.
Again let me go
back to set this up, let me try to explain who I have been
taught by the Andromedans we are, okay?
Patte : Okay
Alex : Now, we talked about the genetics and I’m going to get to
that, in a second, but I first want to tell everybody, folks,
whether you want to believe this or not, whether you think I’m
crazy, or not, it doesn’t matter, but the reality is, that
everyone of you has a soul, okay, a consciousness that lives
forever, that records, and its purpose is to experience life,
which ever life you choose to evolve, to discover who you are to
become all that you can be.
None of you, including myself, none
of us as souls on this planet were born and hatched here, we all
come from some other place, some other realm, some other
dimension, that’s just the reality of it, and whether your a
Christian, your a Buddhist, your a Jew, your a Moslem is doesn’t
The reality is all of you as a soul
some place else. Now, for some reason, a very large group of us,
as souls, choose to incarnate into this physically which we know
ourselves as earth beings, or Terrans as we’re known outside, at
least off planets, now because of so many extraterrestrial in
the last, 22 million years, visiting our planet, coming here,
staying here, you know this was an outpost, its where we’re the
furthest end of our galaxy.
It was an outpost, we are along a
trading route, that moves just outside our solar system, that
many very very advanced races use, and have used in the past,
that moves just outside out of our solar system, to leave our
galaxy to go to other galaxies, and yes there are races that can
do this, they would stop here for whatever reason, this is why
we have, so much life, so much diversity, its because much of
the life that is on our planet, was brought here by other races.
This is why in the fossil records they have discovered, so many
extinct animals and other plant life that are fully formed,
okay. This notion that everything evolved from a single cell
rubbish. I want you to know that, it is rubbish, it will never
be proven, they teach it as proof but it isn’t, okay its just
not true, but its all part of the programming to keep us
Now, because of all the interaction earth has
had with so many different races, there have been, races,
extraterrestrials that have been left behind, there have other
also, any many of them are human races, there are also many
human races, extraterrestrial races that are human that have
come here and co-mingled, with our race, both in the past and
I’m told, even in the present.
This does go on, this occurs for
example with the Grays, there are people folks, especially women
who know they have been implanted, have bared children, the seed
has been put inside of them, and they get to three of four
months and suddenly the pregnancy is terminated, and the baby is
gone, there are other stories of women being taken on board
where they’ve met their children, with extraterrestrials, so you
see, so much has gone on with extra terrestrials.
the Andromedans, we as as race, I’m now taking about all of us
on planet earth, are the sum total of
Patte : [makes noise of astonishment]
Alex : Okay?.
Patte : that’s incredible-
Alex : and they say that we are royalty. Because of this, that
we’re the only ones, in our galaxy like this, the ONLY ones.
Patte : Wow, this is kind of like a
living library huh?
Alex : Exactly! and I think somebody’s actually said that
before, I think it was - either,
Patte : Yes
Alex : But nobody wants to hear it. [both chuckle] Nobody wants
to hear it, they want to just stay in their 9 to 5, watch
football drink beer and I’m like - GOD we’re never going to evolve
Patte : This is a very important time though isn’t it?
Alex : Yes ma’am, it is, the bubble is bursting and its
going to be
a very wild ride Patte, things are radically changing, some
things for the better and some definitely for the worst, you
know this is a very dangerous time, for all of us on the planet,
because our governments are completely irresponsible and the
people that are running it, you know, political leaders, they’re
not really in charge.
They’re really not, but you know there’s
agenda, to lower the population of the planet and there
setting everything up to do that.
Patte : Okay, Alex we do have to take another quick break, and
we’ll be back to discuss a little more about this, lowering of
the population, and what’s going with the government. We’ll be
back in a moment with Alex Collier - Defending Sacred Ground.
Patte : Welcome back to the Next dimension, out of this world
talk radio on talk America, my guest is Alex Collier author of
Defending Sacred Ground. Alex if we are in fact, the kind of
experiment of the universe, that all of these, different
extraterrestrials, have kind of seeded our planet why are they
now trying to lower our population?
Alex : Well Patte, its not exactly like that, its not all of
them that are trying to do it, and we didn’t start out to
be an experiment, you know we were, way in the brunnies and at
the end of the galaxy, and I guess you could say that many races were very irresponsible about some of their
actions when they were here.
They would just
get in their ships and they would leave, and just either go home
or continue on with their mission or their scientific
expedition, whatever it was they were doing, and didn’t give us
a second thought, but what happened was,
something happened to our DNA and suddenly within 2000 years, we
go from, these barbarians to being able to
create space flight, we’ve evolved very very quickly, and this
has actually scared some races, it is primarily and I
will use this term often, regressive races that simply do not
want to see us evolve, and to take our rightful place
in the galactic family.
Because part of our
DNA, has to do with
the primate race, going way way way way back
and there are some extraterrestrial races, and their not
necessarily human, who see us as beasts. They resent
the fact that we have the abilities that we have, that we can
evolve so quickly and their doing everything they
can to hold us back, and they have been for a very very long
Patte : Are these like the Orions and the ...
Alex : Yes ma’am, there are groups from Orion, from Ursa major,
Ursa minor, Betelgeuse, Sirius B, that you know, absolutely do
not want to see us evolve, they absolutely do not. They would
prefer that we just stay right here, and we just stay out of the
way. You know this is a very complicated subject and if you
want to go down that road, we can do that, or if you want to
explore other things and maybe go back to that, we can do it.
But you know Patte, for 10 years I have been speaking publicly
and I just keep saying this over and over again, ladies and
gentleman we are so awesome. We truly are, we just have to
believe in ourselves and we have to start putting all of our
petty differences aside, and start working as a race.
doesn’t mean giving up freedom, it doesn’t mean giving up your
individual liberties and it doesn’t mean having to screw someone
over for money or power, it means literally learning to work
together, so we can all evolve together.
Patte : Now you were saying - I would like to go on that thing
because this is a very positive show- you were saying that you
know, we talk about love and light, not really so much that, so
how do we draw ourselves together as a group in something
positive? Ooops... I guess we have to go to the news break.
Alex : that sounds great!
Patte : I know they do, that’s the only frustrating thought but
Alex : Hold that thought
Patte : Hold that thought
when we go to the news and when we come back we will discuss
about what we can do to draw up ourselves together and to come
up to the potential that we have and that we really are- we’ll
back in a moment, with Alex Collier author of Defending Sacred
Alex : okay
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension on talk America and live on the internet, listeners
you can listen at http://www.spiritnetwork.com/nextdimension all
one word. My guest this hour and the next hour for the rest of
the night is Alex Collier the author of ‘Defending
The Andromedan Compendium.' We do have a caller right
now, Ed in Texas who is listening on the internet who has a
question us, go ahead Ed.
Ed : Oh hi Patte, how are you this morning?
Patte : Fine, how are you?
Ed : good. Hi Alex how are you tonight, this morning?
Alex : I’m going well, how come your not sleeping [laughs]
Ed : I stayed up for you Alex
Alex : I’m honored
Ed : I had to do it, first of all, I’ve read your book,
Defending Sacred Ground, excellent, excellent piece of work I
do have some questions, and I don’t want to jump ahead of what
your talking about but I would like you to
comment on the Andromedans being very - what’s the word I want to
use - amazed at the things we have, that
we project from ourselves and our holographic 3d reality you
know like our little knickknacks and everything else
Alex : Aha, mean why we put so much energy into those things?
Ed : Yes
Alex : You know - okay that’s a great question, is there time to
answer the question?
Patte : You know, actually we do have to take our top of the
hour break, I mean I’m sorry but we will get back,
we wanted to get that question out before we went to break, but
we’ll be back in a moment with Alex and Ed
from Texas and I’ll be answering that question as soon as we
come back from break
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension out of this world talk radio on talk America and live
on the internet. My guest is Alex Collier and we just had a
question from Ed from Texas about what the Andromedans think
about all of our preoccupation as I would guess would be
materialism and stuff is that correct?
Ed : more or less, it has to do with how we use a lot of our
Alex : okay, they do not understand why we do not really want to
know about our past, they don’t understand why we do not
practice or want to explore voluntary introspection. [feedback
then loss of signal for 3 minutes] How are we going to as a race
stand and create something that benefits everybody?, that
fulfils the needs of the many or are we going to continue to
play this game where the needs of the few are fulfilled and
everybody else suffers.
Ed : right
Alex : you know, what were creating isn’t working and they do
not understand why we don’t see it, or why we
don’t change it or why we don’t honestly look at ourselves, and
our past, and that what we’re creating for our
future and fix it, they don’t understand why we don’t take
responsibility for it, that we want somebody else to fix
it for us and I once asked Vasais about our future, because I’m
worried, I am really worried and this is the answer
he gave me ‘responsible freedom of self determination becoming
truly self confident and free to unconditionally be
responsible for oneself’ and here's the key phrase ‘without being
coerced to accept some higher authority.’
that’s an individual decision by each one of us to be that way,
to be fully responsible, you know, and so many
people just don’t want to take responsibility
Ed : I’ve been trying to walk my talk and I’m beating my head
against the wall talking to people about things, you
know where I’m coming from with that
Alex : yeah well you know the educational system has
successfully made sure that there are very few critical
Ed : they disempowered generations?
Alex : yeah, and um you know, we’re in trouble, we’re in
Patte : How do you suggest we band together?, is this going to
be done individually and each person develops their own
sovereignty and therefore it just kind of does the 100th monkey
Alex : Patte, that’s only part of it, its going to have to be a
grass roots level, in other words you know, let me just put it
to you this way and I will deal specifically with the United
States of America. We are extremely vulnerable now...
Governments totally corrupt, it doesn’t give a damn about us,
its been run by corporations, its been run by men and
extraterrestrial that live underground that don’t give a damn
about us, we’re just considered a natural resource and we are
extremely vulnerable in the next six months to nuclear
terrorism, biological terrorism and the only way America is
going to be saved is by the people, the people are going to have
to save the United States it isn’t going to be the government,
there block and paid for that’s just the way it is, and
everybody knows it, but very few people want to stand up, take
responsibility and say, look we need to get rid of everybody
there and start over, that’s just the way it is.
Nobody wants to
do it, and this is where we become a country of gossip. We talk
about it but nobody does anything. Nobodies willing to stand up
and take the heat. And fewer others are willing to stand behind
them and really take the heat, to make the changes, they just
want to continue to go on thinking that its going to work itself
out and fix itself, and it isn’t going to happen.
Patte : When you said to get rid of everybody how do--?
Alex : We fire them Patte!.
Patte : Fire them.
Alex : Yes ma’am. You know this thing will Bill Clinton and I
know we’re kind of getting off this is an issue I want to
talk about. This thing with Monica Lewinsky
Patte : Yes
Alex : You know this is not really the issue, yeah, sure he
lied, he commit perjury and he probably obstructed
justice but this is not the issue, I’ll tell you what the real
issue is, and its treason. The real issue is treason, okay,
Lorell Space Corporation, gave the Chinese top secret technology
for guidance missile systems, okay, and the
reason he got a waiver to do it because he gave Bill Clinton a
lot of campaign contributions, and he was the
largest donator to the democratic party, he got a special waiver
which gave the Chinese the guidance missile
technology they needed for their nuclear missiles, so now
they’ll hit their targets where before they couldn’t even
get them off the ground. Okay and where are those nuclear
missiles targeted? They pointed at us...
Patte : Us
Alex : Their pointed at us Patte, their pointed us and we gave
them the technology for money.
Patte : This is what the whole thing is about.
Alex : That’s what the whole thing is really all about
Patte : Okay
Alex : That’s what its about
Patte : We do have to take a quick break here [laughing] but we
will be back and we have a caller holding from Vegas as well.
Alex : : Thanks Ed if your still there
Patte : Okay thank you Ed very much for calling in... Be back in
Patte : Hi, this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the Next
Dimension, out of this world talk radio, my guest is Alex
Collier author of Defending Sacred Ground. Alex we have another
call, from Christina in Vegas who very much would like to ask
you a question. Christina are you there?
Christina : Yes I am here. Hi Alex
Alex : Hi Christina
Christina : How are you?
Alex : I’m good
Christina : All right, first of all I hope they sold them the
Titan missile guidance system, you know, the one that
cracks up that we can’t even get up there, but lets face it
we’re not honorable as Americans when we sell
Alex : I agree
Christina : We probably sold them something cracked anyway.
Getting onto something a little different. Now the two people
that you are telepathically in contact with have they mentioned
anything about the
solar flares the gamma rays, harbingers of
things to come, was there anything in particular about what’s
going out in our galaxy that we need to be aware of?
Alex : Well there’s a lot going on in the galaxy but lets just
talk about our sun for a moment. I know that there’s
all kinds of people saying all kinds of things,
Ed dames, where
the planets going to be fried and all this stuff
Christina : aha
Alex : It just isn’t going to happen. According to the Andromedans, something that occurs on a fairly regular
basis, throughout the galaxy, is that, stars, pole shift.
even planets pole shift, where they will rotate on
their axis, apparently our sun electromagnetic field has just
finished a pole shift and the electromagnetic field of
the sun has not set itself, in other words its flipping back and
forth which is causing a lot of flare activity and the Andromedans have said that if it doesn’t balance itself out in
the next 85 to 93 days that they are going to
intervene to do this they are going to balance the magnetic
Christina : Great that there’s somebody out there watching us.
Alex : Yes ma’am, they’ve intervened several times already and
other races have intervened as well, both good
and bad, but that’s what they say it is.
This is an occurrence
that happens and what happens is that once the
sun does it, generally the planets follow suit, and what it does
is that the tone and frequency of our solar system
is dictated by the sun, its not the planets but by
the Sun, the
sun sets the tone, and what happens is that when
it flips, and rotates, to its new axis, it puts off a new tone
and frequency and the other planets re-align
themselves to that over a period of time... Its always been this
Christina : ahum, that makes sense. One other quick question
Alex : Yes ma’am
Christina : Now, supposedly there’s
a portal over the middle
east and I was wondering if you have any information regarding
that, because it seems that if we’re all genetically royal what
happened to that part of the country where they just want to, as a
world, where they just want to kill themselves all the time?
Alex : Oh, that’s a great question and Christina I can answer it
this way. Okay, this is the best answer I can give you.
Prejudice - is an extra terrestrial perspective we have been
taught to hate each other, because as long as we hate each other
we will never unite and evolve as a race, we will constantly
sabotage each other.
Christina : Hmm, well its seems like they are fighting brother
to brother I think we are a little more united in the
United States, not much but a little bit more
Alex : [laughing] well not enough
Christina : [laughing]
Alex : Not enough, you know its that we’re not united, I think
we’re lazy, I think we’re really lazy.
Christina : A lot of people want to stand up and do something
and it does have to be a grassroots thing but lets
face it, the people who think they’re in charge, they just get
rid of people who start these grassroots
movements. I think on a conscious level that a lot of people are
trying to raise the situation, of pulling things
together in a positive way, just because we cant get out there
and do it with signs or get some notice about it
because our liberties would be taken away doesn’t mean we can’t
consciously do it and I think that’s what’s going
Alex : Christina, let me ask you this then, if that’s the case,
why is it only 25% of the population votes?
Christina : Oh I think your going to see a big voter turn out
Alex : That would be great
Christina : Yeah, I think we will. But on a lighter side I have
something to ask you Alex
Alex : Yes ma’am
Christina : [laughing] Is Al Gore a
walk-in cause he doesn’t
look too animated [giggling]
Alex : [laughing] I don’t know, I don’t know
Christina : Well thanks for your time
Patte : I’ve just got to say we have to the news real quick
Christina : Okay I'm going to let you go, thanks, and its great
listening to you
Patte : Okay, thank you Christina. We do have to go to the news
real quick and then we’ll be back with Alex Collier Defending
Sacred Ground. You want to go ahead and give your number out real
Alex : If you want information regarding anything call
303-215-1923 please business hours don’t call now, its you know,
1:30 in the morning here [laughing]
Patte : Or check your web
Alex : dot com, yes.
Patte : Okay great we’ll be back in a moment right after the
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the Next
Dimension, out of this world talk radio on Talk American
networks, my guest is Alex Collier author of Defending Sacred
I’d also like to mention that our callers will be
receiving a free subscription to the auroran holistic journal
and research directory which contains our news letter. Right now
we have art from Brenning Pennsylvania on the line, I guess you
have a very important question for Alex. Go ahead [Art is barely
Art : Alex
Alex : Yes
Art : Am I on?
Patte : yeah [laughing]
Alex : Hey Art.
Art : I have a question although maybe you want to answer one at
the time. The first has to do with the niburans,
Alex : Yes sir, but its not exactly a planet, its more of a,
well it is a planet but its been hollowed out it's now actually a
Art : This according to him has a period of 3600 years.
Alex : That’s inaccurate, it basically travels anywhere it
wants, you know, my understanding is that they have
sometimes instead of being 3600 years apart, they’ve come 4200
years, sometimes 5700 years, 15,000 years
Art : When’s is it due back?
Alex : The planet or the craft itself I’ve not been told that,
but I can tell you this quite honestly. Many of the Niburians, or
Niburu are here in our solar system now. There coming back there
is an advanced force, the protocol force, that is already in the
Art : ...web site about that... paraphrase parts ... about what
the possible consequences [unclear]
Patte : Neither can I, we’re having a problem hearing art
through the lines here I guess you can hear him Alex but
we’re not able to hear him at all
Alex : okay, do you want me to repeat the question?
Patte : yeah maybe repeat the question
Alex : Okay. His question was making a reference to an
announcement on our web site, about the fact that
they’re here and what those consequences would be for us and the
answer is Art, my concern is that we’re in
trouble because of their past, treatment of us in history. Some
have treated as as equals, but the family of Enlil
the natural born son of Anu, and again I refer to
Art : Yes I know that
Alex : They hate us, I mean we’re just nothing but a natural
resource and the last flood, the biblical flood of Noah, was a
tilting of the planet on its axis which they did mechanically to
try to wipe us out, to exterminate the race and that’s why the Andromedans and other races are here to make sure that doesn’t
happen again, because we have a legitimate right to survive,
evolve. I don’t know art what’s going to happen next, I wish I
knew. All I can do is keep you posted when I get new
Art : On the web site you said that
Moraney mentioned that if he
was asked to leave he would do so.
Alex : If the council told him to leave they would have to
Art : Yes, they have the power to do that?
Alex : Yes sir they do
Art : and his duty bound to obey?
Alex : that’s the impression I was given.
Art : If that was to occur then the fly over would not happen is
Alex : I don’t know that sir, I don’t know that. [unclear] would
stay here because what happens here affects their future, so
they have an investment in seeing that this thing balances
Art : Well isn’t it true that they are also from our future?
Alex : Yes sir.
Art : You might want to explain that for people who don’t really
Alex : Okay.
Art : That’s a big order
Patte : Before we answer we do have to take a quick break. We
are getting to hear Art now so its working but we’ll be back in
a moment with Alex Collier and art from Weding Pennsylvania.
We’ll be right back.
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension out of this world talk radio my guest is Alex Collier
and we were talking to art from Weding Pennsylvania. Art did do
you have another question?
Art : Yes we left it kind of hanging in the air. Alex as I
recall you mentioned that the one reason that the Andromedans
are here is that they in their future, at some point they
discovered tyranny and they traced in back to our galaxy is that
Alex : Yeah, to our solar system
Art : I'm sorry, to our solar system?
Alex : Yes sir. Okay to give a little galactic history, a very
very long time ago there was a war in our galaxy and it was
primarily between the human races and the reptilian races and
the two sides slaughtered each other to the point where there
was really no winner, they both just exhausted themselves to
where there and just basically went in their opposite
The conflict was never really resolved. Now what
happened was that a group from Sirius B under the guidance of
the Orion - a consortium out of Orion, the Orion constellations,
gave scientists on our planet, technology,
This time travel technology became known as the
Montauk project. And what happened was, we without knowing what
we were doing created a tear in time. We didn’t know what we
were doing, you know we really had no business with the
technology and according to Moraney its supposed to be another
150 years before we actually invented time travel ourselves, but
anyway these races gave us this technology.
We opened up these
holes in time, not one, not two, but three... holes in time which
also created three parallel realities of earth.
extra terrestrial races
from Orion and other groups that are
regressive have been using these time - these tears in time, to go
back in time and alter events in the past that create 400 linear
time in our future, tyranny in our galaxy and this is one of the
reasons why the Andromedans and other races are here.
why they intervened and stopped literally all portal time travel
through these tears, they’ve literally been sealing them up and
blocking them and have literally quarantined the solar system
from time travel because they realized that these specific races
were going back and altering certain events so that the outcome
would be different from the way it was... Does that make sense?
Art : Yeah when they altered these events, and that would be in
an parallel reality?
Alex : Well -
Art : Because doesn’t that lead to a paradox?
If the events, if
you go back to the past and alter the event and when you get to
the present you have a paradox. You know the old story that if
you went back and kill your father would you then be born?
Alex : I don’t know that that’s necessarily true Art, I don’t
know if it was, if they actually go back and change an
alternative reality, my understanding is that they’ve been
altering the original reality, you know when you time travel it
doesn’t necessarily mean that they go to a parallel reality. I
don’t honestly know enough about that and that’s a great
question. I don’t know if I have an answer for you. no.
Art : So they’re really
travelers in both space and time
Alex : Well yeah, yeah.
Patte : Does one of the things that they’re altering like the
perception of what happened when Christ was on the earth to
manipulate the people into thinking it was a different scenario
then it really was?
Art : Do you want to get into that Alex?
Alex : [laughing] One of my least favorite subjects to talk
about. Patte I can address that but you know, you may not like
Patte : Though I probably already know your answer and
afraid for you to say it
Alex : It didn’t happen the way we’ve been taught,
happen that way at all, you know, and you know a lot of people
are waiting for a savior that may not be coming, we may need to
be our own savior.
Patte : That’s - for me I think that’s a very important thing for
our listeners to hear, is that there is no savior and if we
continue to look for a savior we’re placing expectations on
what may turn out to be extra terrestrials or whatever to be our
Alex : Right, we’re disempowering ourselves
Patte : Right
Alex : We’re totally disempowering ourselves by waiting to be
Patte : That’s right, and everybody looks to the government and
everybody looks to the coming of the Christ, the
next savior down the line who’s going to fix everything and I
think your message is very important, that we’re
here to save ourselves
Art : Not only that but I might interrupt, but that there’s also
rumors that Putika [?unclear] may be some ET groups that may
try to play out.
Alex : play it out Art? is that what your going to say?
Art : I’m sorry?
Alex : To play it out
Art : Yeah to make it appear that they’re coming here as
saviors and all this love and light sort of thing, so it
seems that they’re not saviors at all
Alex : That’s right, that’s exactly right
Art : I don’t know which groups they are
Alex : It would be
the Dows, the Grays
Art : By the way, are these groups, these creatures from
B, are they
reptilian or are they more humanoid?
Alex : Well there humanoid but they have partial scales
Art : Okay
Alex : They were a colony originally, my understanding is that
it was a work colony that - in other words there
was a lot of mining in Orion - some of the constellations in
Orion were mining minerals that they needed in the
Sirius constellation and the actual race of Sirius B were the
workers that were brought there, basically slaves,
prisoners to work those mines
Art : I see
Alex : And they’ve you know, evolved, over so many millions of
years to become the race that they are now. But
again they’re very stuck on monarchy, where the king is god
Art : yeah. Earlier on you had mentioned about how suddenly man
evolved very very quickly and I’ve think the
twist in that [unclear] the idea with the messing of the DNA you
know in the anthropology studies, we’re savages
all this suddenly promagnum (sapiens?) man appears
Alex : Right
Art : And doesn’t that fit in with Sitchin’s idea that they
took the hominid apes and altered the DNA and gave
them a little bit more intelligence?
Alex : Ah yes sir, but there were also human races here too
which we’re not being told about
Art : Yeah
Alex : You know I mean they’re finding records of man as we know
ourselves you know in the fossilized record but
they keep it quiet because they don’t want to take the time to
rewrite history and say geees we were wrong
Art : Yeah
Alex : You know they would rather just propagating the lie you
know to protect their precious little hierarchy
Art : And isn’t it true that—
Patte : I’m sorry Art and Alex we have to go to break and we’ve
got the shift report up so we’ll back after the
Alex/Art : Okay
Patte : Right
Alex : Bye bye
Patte : Bye bye
[ shift report with another guest ]
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the third hour
of the next dimension my guest is Alex Collier, the
author of Defending Sacred Ground and we were talking with Art
from Weding Pennsylvania who has one more
question and then we will be discussing some things like
holograms and some of the other races. Art, you had one
Art : Yes the gentleman you were just talking with in
[referring to shift report]
Patte : Yes
Art : Mentioned about the magnetic changes, the magnetic changes
in the earths magnetic field - made reference to it - have you
been following this business with the homing pigeons?
Patte : Homing pigeons, no I haven’t,
I'm not familiar with it
Art : Apparently the homing pigeons used the magnetic lines of
course as their homing device and recently in the
paper there was an article about - I think it was near Pittsburg
where some 2000 pigeons were released and only
about 20 of them got home so
Patte : Can you comment on that Alex?
Art : Yeah the electro magnetic field of our earth is
fluctuating and this usually occurs before a physical pole shift
of the planet - the electromagnetic field will rotate and realign
itself and then the planet will follow and again this
is all in response to the sun
Patte : So your expecting - are the Andromedans telling you we
are going to have a pole shift or is it?
Alex : The highest probability is any time between now and the
year 2003. Were going to have a physical pole shift.
Patte : Is it going to be very world drastic?
Alex : Yes ma’am it is, yes ma’am, it can be, it can be
Patte : Because some of the guests that I’ve had, we’ve
discussed the shift just a lot, as you can probably tell
[laughing] some of the guests I’ve been having saying that
through consciousness and through different methods of people
working on this - through meditation and through [unclear]
talking about the fifth mode of prayer that we are softening
some of these effects and hopefully they won't be quite as
drastic as has been predicted but you never know. Its up to us
Alex : Yes ma’am it is
Patte : Okay did that answer your question for you Art?
Art : Yes it did
Patte : Okay well we appreciate your call
Art : Yes thank you very much Patte
Patte : All right, bye bye
Art : Good night, good night Alex
Alex : Good night art
Patte : One of the things that I want to discuss with you was
with the fact that we are actually in a hologram - I
was reading that in your book
Alex : According to Andromedans the entire universe which
involves all of the dimensions, planes - or whatever you want to
call it, including ourselves are holographs. That it is made up
of light, color and sound, and all matter is made up of that
depending upon the frequency of the light and color and the
sound will dictate the density of which it is, and they’ve even
said that were all holograms.
Patte : Our physical bodies are holograms?
Alex : Aha, yeah.
Patte : So basically the third dimensional hologram - when we
are seeing something outside of ourselves that’s basically a
mirror in 3d dimensional form. Is that what we’re saying?
Alex : Yes ma’am. For example, lets look at the process of birth,
okay? Here you have a soul a soul attaches to a physical - a
soul wants to incarnate into third density, we’ll say earth,
okay how does the soul get in here? it has to create the space
okay, and how does it create the space. It has to create a
physical form that is acceptable by, with a frequency, color
sounded frequency that will be able to integrate into this
holograph which we have which we call third density---
Patte : Alex, your going to kill me [laughing] but we have to take
Alex : Another break
Patte : Okay this is our short one. When we come back we’re
going to have a nice span of time, so save your
thought we’ll be right back okay
Alex : Okay.
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome to the next dimension
we’re back with Alex Collier. Okay Alex lets start over with
Alex : Okay so if every single one of us had cognitive memory of
you know, our progression of lifetimes we would come to
understand that we truly do choose our parents for the purpose
of the experience that we need to, that we choose to have.
how do we as a soul, a spirit come into third density to
experience physical reality, we have to create the space so what
we do is we attach to a body, to an embryo and as it grows and
it matures in the mothers body it is here, but it isn’t here
yet. It isn’t actually the birthing processing where now that
physical now has its own space on- in third density. You
Patte : Yes I understand
Alex : Okay, so when a person has a near death experience they
leave their body, they’re considered dead, for a time, whether
its 10 seconds, 30 seconds a few second, they go to some place,
and they have an experience. Now its a real experience okay, but
there no longer in physical body, they are now some place else,
that is just as real to them, even though it is not as dense as
Now when they come back to their body and they relate
what experience they had some people are like, you know, how can
that be? where did you go, you know, how can that exist?. It
exists because the universe, what we know as our universe is a
series of layers of frequencies and vibration and within that
hologram contains a level of frequencies of harmonics that we
exist on, and that can only be if it was a holograph.
Patte : Okay
Alex : For example, the Andromedans have a camera, which they
use extensively and its a holographic camera. Now Patte they can
take a picture of you, right now this moment, and depending on
the setting of this camera, it can be set for, 10 years in our
linear time, 20 years in our linear time, or it can even go back
to moment of conception, of your mum and your dad. Now this one
picture contains, if they took a picture of you now it would
contain your entire life from now back to conception.
what they do is they take it apart and they look at specific
times in your life and its like a video but its actually a
picture, its like a snapshot, but there able to take it apart
and look at various times in your life of who you were, what
your experiencing, everything about you okay, and its a
holographic camera, literally. They’ve taken lots of these kinds
of pictures of our planet and the reason they say they can do
this is because it is a holograph, it is a true account of who
you are. Now we are so stuck in linear time that it is very
difficult of people to conceive the concept that everything is a
I mean you say holograph to most they’ll say
know, holo what?' they won't even know what your talking about,
the soul, your soul, my soul, everybody’s soul is literally
multidimensional, it is a holograph, because what your
experiencing now here in the present your not consciously aware
of other experiences your soul is having on other levels because
we have separated ourselves from the concept of a holograph into
linear thinking, that this is it, this is where I am now, and
that’s all there is to it, there’s nothing else that exists, and
we’ve limited our self tremendously, and we wonder why we’re
only using you know 12 to 15 percent of our brain you know.
Patte : Yes, so when your talking in the book about we’re moving
into the 4th dimension and the 5th dimension
Alex : Yes ma’am
Patte : Okay, which is something that were doing right now, how
- would you explain to the listeners, which I
thought was very interesting in your book about how you will
know, when you have say reached the 4th
dimension or the 5th dimension
Alex : Well according to the Andromedans, many of us are already
in the 4th dimension and its consciousness
Patte : How does it look different then the 3rd dimensional
Alex : Color, its color its frequency its sound, but to us on
a physical level, the first thing that will strike us will
be the different in colors, it will also be a difference in the
depth of emotional experience
Patte : Depth of emotional experience
Alex : Experience... If the body, the entire body will
experience all emotion. As opposed to - you know just feeling it
in a certain part of our body, weather its the heart, the solar
plexus, the mind, the throat, in other words, the whole body
will humm, it will vibrate, we will also, you will also be able
to see spirit, what we call spirit, which is really just another
dimension, many people can - are already beginning to experience
this, they’re seeing things in their peripheral vision, they’ll
see things walk by them, go past them, they’ll see things in the
room, and they’ll look and it isn’t there of course, but to the
peripheral vision they know they saw something, or they felt
something, in other words those kind of things will become more
and more physical.
Telepathy, you will begin to experience more
telepathy. You will actually begin to hear other peoples
thoughts about you, directed to towards you, you will think of
somebody and they will immediately call you, and it will become
more and more [music in background] prevalent - is this another
Patte : Yeah [both laugh]
Patte : We’ll be be right back in a moment- this is, this is
great stuff, we’ll be back with Alex Collier in a moment
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension my guest is Alex Collier, who is talking about
some of the changes we’re experiencing, from going from the 3rd
to the 4th, 4th to the 5th dimension, and you
were just telling me things like telepathy and beginning to see
Alex : Yes, to see what we would call spirit, also Patte my
understanding is that as we move through it you’ll be able to
look at people and you will automatically see physical
dysfunctional in them, you will see it, and you will know
exactly what it is, because as we move through 4th into 5th we
will actually see pictures, in, peoples physical form, of what’s
causing the blockage.
Whether its an experience, whether its an
emotion, we will be able to really help each other as well as
ourselves, and we’ll be able to walk through physicality because
as we evolve the atoms that make up our physical form which is
held together by intent, will rotate at a higher frequency.
Which means we become less and less dense. That’s why some of
the ancient—some of the people in India can
actually do a meditation and literally levitate themselves
Patte : Right
Alex : Because they raise the frequency of their atoms to make
themselves light, and that’s why he begins to levitate [Patte
Patte : But where would he go? would there be people in the 3rd
dimension at the same time that somebody are like, for instance
if I'm 3rd dimension will I have people that I can see and work
with that are in 4th dimension, the 5th dimension or we will all
be interacting on the same plane, or will people kind of all be
in the 4th dimension at the same time, and then all move into
the 5th dimension at the same time?
Alex : The scenario I was given by Moraney and Vasais is this
that it would probably be the children first. That the children
will be able to literally walk into 4th and 5th density and will
come back to each their parents how to do it and to prepare them
for what’s on the other side. Its going to be
the children that are
going teach us because they’re so wide open.
For example, I'm a
dad, and, we have a toddler, and as you know toddlers go through
terrible twos, and threes sometimes, and other challenges. I’ve
asked them about it and what he told me was is that the children
become frustrated because they can remember their past life
times and in their mind they see themselves doing something, but
physically they can’t do it. They do not understand how they can
see themselves in their minds doing it and they can’t do it
physically, and they get frustrated.
Cause their minds are far
advanced then their bodies - the physical form, they don’t
understand why their physicality limits them because in their
mind they’re wide open, they’re completely wide open and unless
we continue to encourage that openness in them, they loose it,
and then they begin to dismiss that part of their past, their
past life, that recognition, they dismiss it, and then they
become you know, they start becoming like their parents.
Patte : So we’re interacting, cause its very interesting of
course, with doing what I'm doing I meet some incredibly
interesting people. Some of these people have of course
abilities like touch healing and psychic abilities and - are
some of these people like say on the 4th dimension, some on the
5th dimension - is that - are they kind of these
certain people that have certain abilities or are we all right
now in the 4th dimension
Alex : We all have it
Patte : We all have it?
Alex : We [unclear] have to be ready to do it [??] but it's a
choice. It's a decision that people have to make you
know, and it sounds easy but it isn’t
Patte : Oh I know
Alex : Its all based on programming and conditioning you know.
Patte : So are we all - well I guess my question is this - are
we all in the 4th dimension right now or are we all, are some of
us in the 3rd, and some of us in the 4th and some of us in the
5th but we’re all interacting at the same time.
Alex : Some of us are in the 3rd, some of us are in the 4th, I
believe there are four or five people people on the planet now
that can literally go from 3rd to 5th one of them being Sai
Patte : And the fifth dimension- I know we have to go, take a
news break, but lets talk about when we come back how does the
fifth dimension differ from say the 4th. You said something
about the golden arches being aqua-marine or something [Alex and
Alex : Yeah we’ll get to that. How long is the break?
Patte : Its just be a few minutes we’re
going to take a news break
so if you want to get up and stretch a little bit
that’s fine and well be back in a moment. 1-888-822TALK with
[commercial / news break]
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension on talk America and our guest is Alex Collier we’re
talking about now the difference between the 3rd, 4th and going
into the 5th dimension. So what’s the difference between the 4th
and 5th dimension?
Alex : The biggest shift is the physicality. 5th density is a
color - what we know as 3rd density, is a color and sound
frequency made up of 72 different frequencies within 3rd density
there are 72 levels of sound and color okay?
Patte : Okay
Alex : Now that’s what makes up our physicality. 4th dimension,
when you move into the 4th dimension which
they say is primarily consciousness which affects the mind and
everything associated with intent - and that’s a
word they use a lot, its intent, you move from 72 to 98 sound
and color frequencies. Now when you move from
there, when you move from fourth to 5th density we’re talking
about a color spectrum of 223 color sound
frequencies so its more than double and it affects primarily the
physicality the most
Patte : In what way?
Alex : Well there are colors that we’ve never seen before,
there are colors, there are things that (sigh) lets
see, 5th density is more fluid, it is almost liquid, it is
almost, its almost a wave, it is so hard to describe
Patte : Is it like in 'Contact'
(the film)?, what they were showing in 'Contact'? when she went up their and on that other - I don’t know
plant or whatever that she ended up going and it was so liquid
and so vibrant?.. just—
Alex : Yeah, that would be a great analogy, that would be an
excellent analogy. Yes.
Patte : I thought that was tremendous
Alex : Yes, its like that, the ability to create is incredible,
it is so profound and its almost instantaneous that’s why its
important to evolve, to really know who you are you know when
you more through the different levels to get to that place, its
imperative that you know who you are because you will create
what you think, and there’s an awesome responsibility associated
with that, you know we can do the same things here but there’s
always that factor of time, everything takes time here.
that level things are much quicker - you don’t have the same
element of time, in fact you don’t even think about time and
because your physical body is not so dense you will have longer
life spans in a single physical form and gravity is different. Patte it is so hard to describe because there are no words here
to describe the experiences, its as as if were going to have to
literally create an entire new vocabulary, or expression of
thought and emotion to relay what it is that we’re going to be
Patte : I have a question for you, I’ve noticed this , and I
don’t know, I haven’t been able to explain it. Several years ago
I guess I was very caught up in the conspiracy theory [laughing]
okay, and the I guess the not so good feelings about the
government and all of these things that were going on, and now I
find myself unable to not, and I can’t be real angry and all,
all I can do is like love these people and feel this thing in my
heart that um, I can’t be angry with them anymore. And I just
wondered if that’s part of the shift to the 4th dimension. Does
that have anything to do with it going more into a love
Alex : I think so
Patte : I guess we do have a take a break [both laugh]
Alex : Your kidding
Patte : No, never ending breaks, but we will be back and we have
a caller holding and we we’ll have a question
when we come back with Alex, we’re with Alex Collier we’ll be
back in a moment
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension, before we take our caller, Alex have you in
being on the ship have you been in the 4th and the 5th dimension
Alex : Yes I have, I have to wear a belt though
Patte : You have to wear a belt?
Alex : When I go with them, because they’re from literally the
5th that’s where they are, that’s where their
consciousness is, and unless this belt that will hold my atoms
together what it does is - I put on this belt the
moment I get on the ship and it literally puts, it creates a
force field around my body, that allows me to be with
them but still maintain a 3rd density body, because otherwise my
atoms would just scatter
Patte : Wow
Alex : Yeah, its pretty interesting
Patte : I bet it is interesting [laughing]
Alex : And they’ve been lots of times Patte I don’t want to come
Patte : This isn’t the greatest place right now is it?
Alex : No, its pretty depressing, at times.
Patte : It is, it's hard to but you know, don’t you feel that we
are here like on a mission to help bring this consciousness up,
isn’t that what were really here for?
Alex : Yes ma’am it is, its just the resistance to change
though, definitely frustrates me per say you know everybody
talks about it but when it really comes down to making the
change very few will walk the talk.
Patte : You know what I came to to believe after what I felt was
a resistance thing for so several years its not about changing
anybody else its about changing yourself because when you change
yourself then you change your reality.
Alex : That’s exactly right
Patte : And so we really, you know its like, you know we can put
all our focus on, on how bad things are here but if we go into
ourselves and we have a peaceful centre in ourselves and we had
Braden on last week who talked about the fifth
mode [?] of prayer and they have digital proof that feeling when
you pray, praying rain, feeling the rain on your face, smelling
the rain as it hits the earth, feeling the earth under your feet
and praying rain and thanking God for that is the way that we
We create, we are creating the outcome on this, and
if we focus our energies on what’s bad in the world that’s all
we’re going to see and we focus our energy on the peace within
this is what were going to create, and so what I was getting to
with the hologram, Art by saying we’re in a hologram which I
believe we are, then isn’t everybody basically a mirror of
ourselves? so aren’t we mirroring back to ourselves what we
Alex : Yes, we are constantly creating ourselves over and over
and over again.
Patte : Right, right its important to keep our head in the right
Alex : Well it is and its also important to be consciously aware
of all of our thoughts you know, so many people
aren’t even aware of what their thinking most of the time,
that’s how unaware of themselves they are. And
everything you think about will manifest or put you in a place
of where your thinking you know, and we’re not just
being, we’re not - somehow somewhere the teaching about self
broke down and you know we’re not preparing our
children to be fully integrated human beings, you know we’re not
learning ourselves or teaching how to be at one
with all. And um, humm, I don’t
Patte : We are one with all though
aren't we? Isn’t—
Alex : Yes we are but we, but we, constantly are putting
ourselves in self imposed loneliness and I don’t know how to
break people of that habit.
Patte : How about breaking ourselves of the habit? that’s
probably, and easier said than done you know but,
recognizing that we are all connected and that we are all one
and that there is no separateness
Alex : There isn’t
Patte : And that whatever we’re seeing out there is a reflection
of our thoughts and trying to maintain our
awareness of that consciousness we do have. Go ahead did you
have something to say
Alex : I just said it was very well said
Patte : Oh thank you. We have
Ed in Texas that has another
question for us, Ed are you there [laughing]
Ed : Yeah I'm here
Alex : Are you still awake I cant believe it
Ed : Of course I'm awake [Alex laughs] Patte there’s just not
enough time in the next dimension
Patte : I know!
Ed : Alex with all
the chemicals in our water such as fluoride,
kind of beating down our consciousnesses and toxins
etc., I wanted you to make a comment about the copper in our
systems and how increasing the copper can
restore some of our brain capacity and our nervous system
Alex : That’s a great question, you mentioned that earlier, and
you know, we got into other things and now your busy. Apparently
our original physical form was copper based, in other words we
were all blue bloods and by adding copper back into our diets,
and I'm talking about colloidal copper we know that’s absorbable
into the blood stream what it does it creates an automatic seal
to an electromagnetic energy which means that our brain
frequencies and our brain capacity is less influenced by outside
magnetic waves, which means that is very difficult brainwash, to
manipulate somebody’s thinking by technology it also means that
you you will increase the frequency, the vibrational frequency
of the body, by adding this mineral because it itself vibrates
and its directly connected to the planet, what was the other
part of that ?
Ed : Well I was mentioning about
Alex : Oh fluoride
Ed : About the hypocampus
Alex : Yeah, you know
Val Valerian at the Leading
has done extensive research and a lot of others,
it basically shuts down many parts of the brain and almost
totally shuts down psychic ability. Its amazing that
some people you know drink a lot of water, fluoride water, city
water and are still psychic. But you know, its a
terrible terrible thing, what its doing to the body. Copper, by
adding copper back into the diet as a mineral
basically helps the body in all levels.
The greatest thing is
that it opens and makes your nervous system vibrates
at a higher level which means that the higher your nervous
system vibrates the more soul, your soul can attach
to the physical body. For an example there are some people you
will see that are just not in their bodies their not
there okay, those are people, you know, they say well you need
grounding, and you need this and you need that
and we all know people who are like that.
What they need is
copper, colloidal copper in their diet, in will
automatically help their soul ground to their nervous system it
just means they’re not fully attached and the soul
attaches to the physical body in the nervous system, that’s what
Ed : Is that strictly colloidal or does that include
Alex : Either.
Ed : I wanted to put in another plug in for your book cause I’ve
followed this extraterrestrial thing for years, and your book
really hit inner source within me, and I felt, I can't wait for
the next one to come out.
Alex : Well hopefully it will just be in few months, it's called
Ancient Whispers and its the history of our solar system, and
other races that have come here.
Ed : Thank you both so much
Alex : Your welcome Ed
Patte : Okay thank you we have to take a quick break again.
303-215-1923 if you’d like to contact Alex and
www lettersfromandromeda.com. We’ll be back in a moment with
Alex Collier - Defending Sacred Ground.
Patte : Hi this is Patte Purcell welcome back to the next
dimension, my guest this evening has been Alex Collier author of
Defending Sacred Ground. I do want to mention that next week my
guest will be Bart Smyth[sp?] on energetic healing and tai chi
and also the author of ‘bliss is everywhere’ which is
and you were talking about using or adding copper, colloidal
water, to the system to help protect against electromagnetic
frequencies which I find is real interesting because I met a
doctor a couple of weeks ago that is out of Sedona, we’re going
have her on the show and she will tell us how to make it for
Alex : Yes its not that difficult
Patte : No, its sounds like its pretty easy and she also advises
using micro water, more alkaline water to raise your frequency
which is very interesting...
Alex : There’s a lot of things that people can do and they’re
very simple, and next to nothing to do. For example
colloidal silver is one of the best
protections against virus
and diseases ever, you know, and [laughing] you know,
the FDA wants to take it off the shelves they want it outlawed
because it's cheap it's simple and all you got to do
is get a jug of water throw a silver, a real silver coin in
there and drink it and you know diseases, viruses cannot
exist with the body with that stuff there. Its amazing that the
knowledge that’s out there, you know the herbs,
and other things that people can take, its real simple stuff.
We’ve complicated our lives way too much
Patte : They want to make it look difficult but actually its
Alex : It really is, you know they don’t want us to be educated
so we can be self reliant, self responsible,
because if we’re all like that nobody has control over us. And
that’s what its about, its about control
Patte : Yes, its about being sovereign
Alex : Yeah it is
Patte : Taking responsibility for ourselves, not working to big
brother to provide us with food, shelter and clothing
Alex : Yeah
Patte : Taking care of our children and everything that goes
along with the more responsibility we abdicate to somebody, the
more power they take over us.
Alex : That’s exactly right, there’s always a price.
Patte : [laughing] So anyway we have a just a few more minutes
here and I would like just to give you an opportunity to give
our listeners what message you would like to give to them from
the Andromedans or anything that you think would be of a special
important and also make sure to give your phone number and web
site again okay.
Alex : Okay, I would just like to just say something you know,
on behalf of myself. I’ve been trying to share this information
for 10 years, and I’ve had a lot of challenges, I’ve had a lot
of security issues, I’ve had several threats, and you know
ladies and gentleman, I just want you to know that I really love
our race. I know what we can become, but I can’t do it alone,
and we need to make some changes, we need to make an investment
in ourselves, and each one of us has to do it in our way,
there’s no one way to do it, there’s no one person that has all
the answers, its different for everybody and anybody that says
‘hey this is the way’. You know there’s just not one way.
Patte : So search within right?
Alex : Well that’s where it starts, I mean you know, I'm creating
my reality, your creating your reality, I'm not
creating the guys reality down the street, he is
Patte : Right
Alex : And I'm not responsible for him, I'm responsible for
myself, and vice versa, and you know ladies and
gentleman, please do not turn on each other, we really need each
Patte : I guess, unfortunately we have to end on that note cause
we’re up to a news break again, thank you so much, I really
appreciate it, it was a wonderful show, 303-215-1923 get his
book, you’re going to love it, and again, I thank you and to all of
my listeners and to you I say namaste the god in my salutes the
god in you.
[end of show]