by Valdamar Valerian
This is a collection of
Material from the book
Chemical, Biological, and Electronic Manipulation of Human
First Edition Printing May 1992
This report was constructed from over 9 hours of video interviews,
personal interviews and individual commentary.
It is structured in
an open question-answer format, without regard to who is asking the
question and who is answering; this format also allows insertion of
other data in the later part of the report in the same open Q&A
format. The data is not proven or verified, but is reported as
This report contains information on the following:
Project, or Project Rainbow
Phoenix Projects 1-3
origins of the Radiosonde
and connections with the work of
programs and hidden agenda
the Montauk Hind Control
the deliberate murder of
thousands of American children in
mind control research and
projects and operational procedures
Von Neumann contributed to these projects
the "martyrdom clause",
mind control by individual signature
technical ways to produce
planetary holograms and Matreiya effects
the explanation behind
closed time loops
government rationale and
plans for the confinement camps and slave labor
the Airborne Instrument
the alien groups known as
the Kondrashkin and their interaction with US Government mind
the Kamogol II and Giza
the negative Sirians
Orion Group manipulations
6th root race
telepathy producing drugs
and their use and suppression
the FAA and zero-time
technical spin-offs from
cross-section of implant
Wilhelm Reich and
programming and its use by the US Government and Sirians
and the aliens from the Antares system
the Elohim Group
the US Navy and
the US Government and the
electronic life support
new life form masses over
the poles and their relation to yearly outbreaks of flu-like
AIDS and Fort Dietrich
Maglev trains and the US
underground tunnel network
the missing human genes
buried spacecraft and
alien technical archives under the
the coming new money
the "Black Nobility"
Nordic and human copper
based blood systems and physiology
the technology of cloning
and the development of synthetic humans and political replacement
the Middle East situation
Congressional awareness of
drug and alien agenda
the US Army and the black
government mobile mind
nature and purposes and
the Orion Group
transmutation of the human race
Sirian Mind Control
...and more, along with
illustrations gleaned from witnesses with photographic memory and a
lot of courage. This information is supplementary to that in Chapter
7 (Matrix III).
Where do you want to start?
Let's start with the Phoenix Project.
It was a project that evolved out of the Philadelphia Project.
it was a project that the Navy did in the 1930's and 1940's in an
attempt to make ships invisible. They threw the switch one eventful
day and the ship went into hyperspace. They had all sorts of
problems with the people on the boat. It was a huge success as well
as a huge failure - then they shelved it. Around 1947 it was decided
to re-activate the project and it was moved to Brookhaven National
Laboratories with Dr. John Von Neumann and his associates.
Out of Phoenix I came Stealth technology, which I cannot talk about
because of my job. It also produced all sorts of energetic little
toys like the radiosonde.
What is a radiosonde?
Well, in all appearances it was a little white box that they attached
to a balloon and sent up into the atmosphere. The government told
people that it involved gathering weather data. It used a very
unusual type of pulse modulation. In most cases they used a CW
(continuous wave) oscillator and pulsed the signal.
This turned out to be a very efficient conversion of electrical
energy to etheric energy. I very recently started collecting
radiosondes. I never saw a receiver. I found out that they were
designed up at Brookhaven National Labs. I started to talk to people
at Brookhaven and ran into a retired gentleman who used to work
there. He told me that the design was originally done by Wilhelm
That peaked my interest. The story goes that in about
1947 Wilhelm Reich handed the US Government a weather control
device, a device that would do DOR-busting. Reich thought that if he
could decrease the amount of DOR that storms would not be so
violent. DOR is the result of orgone energy coming
into contact with an enclosed radioactive source. This produces a
Deadly Orgone Energy - DOR - which threatens life. It is also
produced in the atmosphere through other processes. The government
sent the device up there into a storm and it did reduce the
intensity of the storm.
The government liked it, and they started
another phase of the Phoenix project where they designed these
"radiosondes" and started launching them in large numbers, maybe 200
to 500 per day. The radio in these things had a range of about 100
miles. If they used so many of them, one would think that receivers
for them would be common-place. I used to be a collector of radio
receivers. I have over 100 in my personal collection. I have never
seen a radiosonde receiver. I have heard of them but I have never
What are the frequencies used?
The frequencies used are 403 MHz and 1680 MHz. They used two different
They are both on at the same time?
No. One or the other was used at any one time. The earlier ones used
403 MHz plus or minus 2 MHz. The later ones used 1680 MHZ, plus or
minus 6 MHz. The "thermistor" in them had gold, silver, platinum and
iridium in it. Reich used sensors that had gold and silver in
them. The humidity element is a plastic plate with silver around the
rim and conductive lines going across the plate. They put a very
unusual mixture of chemicals on this plate. Unlike most humistors,
the resistance went up as it got damp.
What we're theorizing at this point is that the "thermistor"
(temperature sensing) rod acts like a DOR antenna out-of-phase. The
"humidity sensor" acts as an antenna for the orgone; The pressure
sensor is essentially what they call a barrel switch, which is a
pressure sensitive cycling switch. The device would destroy DOR and
build up the orgone. The transmitter consisted of two oscillators,
one of which would run at the carrier frequency (403 or 1680) and a
second one which was a 7 MHz oscillator hooked into the grid of the
carrier oscillator. The result was that the 7 MHZ oscillator would
pulse on and off.
How does all this relate to what was going on with these other
The government could not tell the public these were weather control
devices. What we are seeing here is actually the genesis of what
became the Montauk project, which was a combination of
Wilhelm Reich's work and the Philadelphia Experiment.
There were two separate projects going on in Phoenix One. You had
the invisibility aspect and you had the development of Wilhelm
Reich's weather control. Toward the end of the Phoenix
project, by using some of Wilhelm Reich's concepts and some
of the transmission schemes used from the "radiosonde" project, they
found that you could combine the two -factors and use them for MIND
CONTROL. Government circles would have me say "mood alteration", but
mind control is what these idiots were doing.
That's what the Montauk project was?
No. Phoenix One. After political circles found out about
it they wanted it shut down. The people that were running it went to
the military and proposed that they could use it to "influence the
minds of the enemy". The military loved the idea, and let them use
the old Montauk Air Force Base. Among the equipment requested was an
old SAGE radar unit, which was on the base. The base was shut down
and everything was auctioned off. The group then moved in from the
Brookhaven Labs. That began what we call Phoenix Two.
They spent the first ten years, from about 1969 to about 1979,
researching pure mind control. They started out by taking the output
of the SAGE radar, modulating the special wave that Reich had
showed them from the weather control process, and combined that with
something noticed from the Philadelphia Experiment
work. They transmitted about 406 MHz. It would hop around
frequencies and change in phase. They used the amplidine concept
where you have many stages pulse-modulated. BRF was from 10 cycles
to 750 cycles. The pulse width could be varied anywhere from 10 to
75ms. The center frequency was 406MHz generated from a stay-low type
function which was referenced from a zero-time function.
Was there any other modulation on this?
There was frequency hopping on it.
So Phoenix Two started in 1969?
Yes, in the period from 1969 to 1971. Phoenix One went
from 1948 to 1968. The first part of the mind control project was to
take an individual and stand them about 250 feet away from the
antenna. The SAGE radar had a peak pulse power of .5 MW. The antenna
had a gain of 30db. That means an effective radiated power of at
least a gigawatt. It was nominally a gigawatt. Can you imagine what
that would do to people? I think its amazing these people are still
here. It does things like burn out brain functions, create
neurological damage, scar lungs from heat, etc. They tried this with
a number of people and there were few survivors.
Where did they get the volunteers for this?
They were just grabbing indigent people off the street and throwing
them in front of the radar beam. That's the sort of nonsense that
the government loves to do.
Who was in charge of the project at this time?
Dr. John Von Neumann and Jack Pruett.
Any particular agency?
I'm not sure what the agency was. Now, somebody got the brilliant idea
to put the subjects directly in line with the gain horn of the
antenna. Lo and behold they got their result without burning the
people up. They found out that by varying the phase modulation and
the frequency hopping and the pulsing of the multiple phases that
they could have profound effects on a persons mind.
How many people worked at this installation?
Who authorized them use of the base?
The Air Force and the Navy. It was a joint project. There were both
Navy and Air Force personnel involved. We have copies of the orders
for the Air Force personnel.
What was the cover story for the base?
They had none. It was a derelict base.
It was abandoned. It was turned over to GSA as surplus around 1969 or
1970 when they shut down all the SAGE radar systems.
It was a "non-existent" operation. It was a perfect cover.
Where did they get the funding?
It was totally private.
It didn't originally come from corporations, although it did in later
phases. The original money came from the Nazi government.
This is Phoenix One?
No, this is Phoenix Two and Three. In 1944 there was an
American troop train that went through a French railroad tunnel
carrying $10 billion in Nazi gold which they had found. it was $10
billion at the 1944 price of $20 per ounce. The train was blown up
in the tunnel. It killed 51 American soldiers. The gold turned up
ten years later at Montauk. This has been verified.
That money was used to finance the project for many years as the
value of gold went up. They spent all of it and ran out of money.
That's when they tapped on ITT, who funded it.
ITT was owned by Krupp in Germany. In terms of
personnel, many of the civilians and scientists there were all
ex-Nazi's who came from Germany both before and after the war ended.
The project was under US Government surveillance. The intelligence
community knew what was going on and the CIA monitored
everything, as did other government intelligence agencies. The field
of players who actually operated on the base was small, between 30
and 50. The funding was entirely private. After 1983, Senator
Goldwater found out about it and started an investigation. He
couldn't find any trace of government funding.
Pruett was the metaphysical director of the project. He was Air
Force. After he left Dr. Herman C. Untermann took over. They
had an electronics expert, Dr. Mathew E. Zerrett, who came
over from Germany in 1946 with Werhner von Braun. Probably
the reason that they ran out of money is that they had a total of 25
bases around the United States to support. The last of the bases
shut down August 12, 1983. The base at Montauk, where
all the stations got their zero-time reference from, shut down and
the other two remaining bases went down with it.
What about some of the mind effects?
From what I recall of the program, as I was part of it, I was
subjected to the mind control field not as I initially went into the
program (because they wanted me initially for my sensitive
abilities) but later. I was assigned to the indoctrination of the
younger recruits. The first indoctrination turned out to be a
disaster. I told them I didn't want anything to do with the program,
and they put me in front of this mind beam, and it did do damage to
me. Finally, someone said, "shut it off, he isn't going to give in
to it" and they shut it off. Others were affected much more
seriously than I was. The effects were generally really bad. It
could burn your brains out. They would go out and pick kids between
the ages of 12 and 16 off the street...
That's where a lot of disappearing American kids went?
We estimate they took 10,000 American children off the street and
brought them to Montauk, New Jersey. The total number
of people that they pulled off the streets for the 25 stations was
about 250,000. What the actual thrust of the program was in terms of
all these kids is still a mystery. We still don't know the answers.
We know they were fully programmed for something. They were
subjected to programming which eventually became more "humane" using
advanced electronic techniques. The original programming was Reichian in nature and was more physical. Later they worked out
techniques that used computers and electronic programming with the
Reichian techniques that took very fast and had little side
Are you aware of any people presently who have been through this?
I've run into people over the years. There is a very specific field
identity pattern you can detect if you are sensitive enough. You can
spot a person who has been through the Montauk program
"five miles away". it's vary distinctive in the way that it's been
altered. I've spotted more than a dozen people in the Long Island,
New York area.
What about Von Neumann?
He was still alive up until 1989. He has run into a problem with the
government as well as other problems, such as a personality split in
1977, when he resigned as director and became a consultant. The
government told everyone he died in 1956. The government is still
interacting with him.
Were any of the Montauk subjects given psycho tropic drugs?
I don't think so...
They used one drug which was used in connection with the
programming to make them more receptive. I don't remember
the name of it. The effect of the drug was that it would make you
"horny as hell".
Also euphoric at the same time?
Also euphoric, yes.
Did they get this mind-altering chair from the aliens?
The prototype came from the aliens. Beyond that we are uncertain. This
chair was essentially a mind amplifier. The government would have
specially trained individuals sit in the chair and generate thought
forms, which would be amplified and transmitted. They could transmit
the signal and put people in a pre-orgasmic state where they would
be receptive to programming. It worked very well and they found
other capabilities. They found that it could work in time. They had
a psychically trained individual sit in the chair and generate a
thought form of a vortex that connected 1947 and 1981. That's
exactly what they got - a time tunnel they could walk through. There
was a series on television at one time that portrayed this concept
fairly accurately. These were some of the earlier capabilities. They
started going forward and backward in time. That was the last phase
When did this time machine get going?
Around 1979 or 1980 it was fully operational. This transmitter had
enough power to warp space and time. The individual in the chair
would have to synthesize the vortex function because they didn't
have the technical capability to do that. It can now be mechanically
synthesized. They did other things. They had the subject in the
chair think of some creature, and the creature would materialize.
They had the individual in the chair think of all the animals at
Montauk point charging into town, and that's exactly what happened.
They almost had the power to create a being. The problem they had
was that what they created only stayed as long as the mind amplifier
was on. The power was somewhere between gigawatts and terrawatts.
Tremendous power. The vortex could have a diameter of about five
Can you describe what this looked like?
Its like looking into a peculiar spiral tunnel which was lit up down
its entire length. You would start to walk into this thing and then
suddenly you'd be pulled down it. You didn't walk through it as
such. You were more or less propelled through it. You could go
anywhere in space and time.
Could you bring things back?
Have you ever brought anything back?
Could you continue your description of the tunnel?
Yes. The walls were solid but fluted. The tunnel was not straight but
was a sort of corkscrew shape.
If someone turned off the power, would you be stuck in the
destination time and space?
Yes. You'd be stuck there.
Did they send a lot of kids down the tunnel'?
Yes, but we don't know what their goals were. They lost a lot of kids.
Since there is a time loop between however far you went back in the
past through however far into the future, is everything fixed?
One of the first things they did was send recruits forward to
around 6030 AD. It was always to the same point.
Somewhere in an abandoned city where there was a statue of solid
gold. When they came back they were asked what they saw. Whether
they were expecting to find a different answer from person to person
is unknown. They would look into the vortex and make sure the
environment would support life before they sent people. They took
Are there potential futures that people could be sent to?
No. Once you make the connection with the future the line becomes
fixed to that point.
Can you change the present by sending someone to the past?
Yes. You can also change the present by sending someone into the
future. Under certain conditions. The government is using existing
time machines to go forward in the Montauk time line.
Are you saying that now the present can't be changed because we
have established a time-loop through the future and the past?
Yes. That means whatever everyone is doing between the most extreme
past point and the future they will be doing forever.
What is the furthest anyone has traveled in the future?
So everything is locked in until 10.000AD?
Yes. It's a dreamlike reality. No one has picked up a tangible future
beyond 2012 AD. There is a very abrupt wall there with
nothing on the other side.
Prophecies speak of earth changes around then.
Curious, isn't it?
Can you project yourself two hours into the future and meet
Yes, but its very dangerous. The person who walked into the tunnel is
out of phase with the person who comes out the other end. This did
happen. The result is that the person just incinerates.
Did they ever give you a weapon in case you ran into anything
They didn't have to do that. The vortex could be arranged to follow
the person, so that they could bring them back in if anything went
wrong. They could see them on a viewer.
So they achieved a
working time portal. At one point
they had a situation where they had a "monster from the ID" type
creature come through and everyone went into a panic. They shut the
transmitter off. The creature ate people and equipment. They had to
go back and shut down the unit in Philadelphia in order to shut off
the unit in the future so they could stop this creature in 1983. This was on August 12,1983. The vortex locked on to the 12
August 1943 test and formed a loop.
All this occurred because
someone planted the thought in the mind of the operator in the chair
to generate this creature. It was an effort to sabotage the project.
A lot of people thought the project had gone too far. When I worked
for them between 1971 and 1983, I was so tired when I would
get home from work. What they would do is that when I my mission was
over they would return me to a point milliseconds before I left. It
would appear from one perspective that I never left. Of course,
after I stopped working there, all that stopped. Is there a reason
that all these things happened?
If you go back into the
Philadelphia experiment end of
it, which was the beginning of the whole business, one can see from
the way that thing was maneuvered that there was a higher force of
some kind involved in setting the whole thing up .... because it
never would have happened the way it did unless two obscure dates 40
years apart coincided between the two experiments: the project
known as the Philadelphia experiment, or Project Rainbow, in 1943
and the Montauk project in 1983.
If I may interject something here. There is a point about two thirds
of the way down the time tunnel where the person who is going
through the tunnel perceives a large "thump". The person's
consciousness leaves their body. There is a tendency to see things
on a broader basis. I am sure there was some intelligence there.
Looking back on my experiences, I'm sure there was some intelligence
there. I would have trouble with the recognition of it. What they
were trying to do at
Montauk was to stabilize the perception process that
would occur upon exteriorization from the body. They were trying to
manifest that for some reason. We don't know what their purpose was.
What was the role of the aliens in this whole thing, other than the
prototype of the mental amplifier chair?
That would be the another part of this that we haven't got into yet.
Let's look at what the Philadelphia experiment got into
in a technical sense. It was what started all this happening. It
originally began back in the 1930's in Chicago with three people. Dr. John Hutchinson Sr., who was the Dean of the University of
Chicago, Nicola Tesla, and
Dr. Kurtenaur, who was an Austrian physicist who was on staff
at the University.
They decided to do something with the speculation regarding the
concept of things and people being invisible. This subject had been
discussed for several year. They got together and did some research
at the University of Chicago around 1931 or 1932. In 1933 the
Institute of Advanced Studies at Princeton was formed and the
project was transferred there in 1934. One of the people on staff at
the Institute was Dr. John Erich Von Neumann, who was from
Budapest Hungary. He got his degree in chemistry in 1925 and his
Ph.D. in mathematics in 1926. He taught in Europe for about four
years and transferred to the United States. He taught at the
graduate level for three years and was invited to join the
Other people at the Institute included Albert Einstein, who
left Germany in 1930. He went to the California Institute of
Technology for three years and taught there and then went to the
Institute upon their invitation and acceptance. A lot of other
people showed up there as time went on. The project expanded about
1936. In the meantime, Tesla
was named director of the project.
He was a friend of president Franklin Roosevelt, whom
Tesla met in 1917 when FDR was secretary of the Navy. Tesla
was asked at that time to do some work for the government for the
war effort, which he did. He accepted and became director of the invisibility project until he resigned in 1942. In 1936,
after intensive study, they decided to have an initial test of their
work. They achieved some partial invisibility. The Navy and everyone
else was encouraged to continue the work, and the Navy supplied
money for research.
Scientists were coming to the United States from Germany until 1939,
when the war with Germany was started.
In 1940, after research using
Tesla's approach, they decided
they were ready for a full test at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. They had
a small ship and a tender ship at each side. One ship provided the
power and the other supplied the drive for the coils. They were
tendered to the test ship by cables. The idea was that if anything
went wrong they could cut the cables or sink the test ship.
Everything worked and the project was declared a success.
The important point about the 1940 test is that there was no one on
board the test vehicle. It was strictly a dry run with no people.
This is important because of what happened later.
Other people came on board.
Thomas T. Brown joined the project
because of his expertise in electrogravity effects. He had the task
of solving the problem of the German magnetic mines that were
affecting allied shipping and Naval efforts. This led into a
parallel project which involved the use of degaussing coils and
cables to explode the mines at a distance from the ship.
The Navy wanted several people to keep an eye on the tests. That is
how I got involved. Keeping technical commentaries. Let's look at
In 1879 his father died and his first year at college ended. He came
to the United States in 1884. He had enormously intuitive insight.
He had a perfect track record. Before coming to the US he had known Robert Oppenheimer, who later worked with the development of
the atomic bomb, and Dr. David Hilbert, the mathematician who
devised equations for Hilbert Space, which described multiple space
or multiple realities mathematically. These equations for multiple
space became very important in the project.
Dr. von Neumann
met Hilbert in 1927 and retained a lot of what he had learned. With
that, Von Neumann developed other new systems of mathematics. Von
Neumann was considered to be one of the most outstanding
mathematicians in this century. Some think he was better than
Einstein. Another mathematician involved was
Dr. John Levinson, who was born in 1912. He died in 1976. He
published three books on mathematics. There is no other history of
Levinson himself anywhere that I can find. Levinson developed
Levinson Time Equations. With all this behind them, the
group had all they needed to proceed with the project.
successful 1940 test, the Navy decided to give the
project unlimited funds and to classify the project. On December 5,
1941 I was in San Francisco and the government came and told me that
a war with Japan would start within 72 hours and that they needed me
to assist them. In January 1942 I ended up at the Institute of
Tesla was given a ship and a crew for a full sized test. Tesla
got a battleship. Tesla and Von Neumann didn't agree
on some things.
Tesla insisted that they were going to have a very
severe problem with personnel. Tesla wanted more time but the NAVY
wouldn't agree. Tesla made periodic announcements in the late 1930's
and early 1940's about his contact with off planet species.
He was in contact with the outside, who agreed that there was a
problem with the people. He decided to sabotage the 1942 test in an
attempt to stop the project. He de-tuned the equipment so nothing
would work. The test failed.
Tesla then turned the project over to Von Neumann in
March 1942 and left the project.
Von Neumann went to the Navy and requested time to study the
problem to determine what had gone wrong. Von Neumann decided to
make changes in some of the equipment. He decided he would need a
special ship that was designed from the ground up. The Eldridge was selected. The equipment was built into the
ship. They put all the equipment on the ship. October 1942 arrived.
They selected 33 volunteers for the crew, who arrived after
graduation in December 1942. We still have a picture of the class.
After the ship was out of dry-dock work began. In May of 1943
Neumann installed a third generator. It would never synchronize
with the other two. It went out of control one day and zapped one of
the men. Von Neumann pulled out the third generator
(installed because Tesla had convinced Von Neumann of the potential
problem with people) and went back to the original design. In mid
June, the ship had sea trials. On July 22, 1943, they had the test.
The ship between radar and optically invisible. They discovered
people very disoriented. The Navy pulled the crew off and consulted
Von Neumann, who requested more time again from the Navy. The
Navy, after consultation with higher-ups, announced that the drop
dead date was on the 12th of August, 1943. Von Neumann voiced
his concern that it wasn't enough time.
The Navy decided that it just wanted radar invisibility and not
optical invisibility. The equipment was again modified by Von
Neumann. August 12th arrived. We knew things were not right. The
test began, and for about a minute everything was all right. The
ships outline could be seen in the water. There was suddenly a blue
flash and the ship disappeared entirely. No radio communication was
possible. It was gone. In about three hours it came back. One of the
masts was broken. Some personnel were partially embedded in the
steel deck. Others were fading in and out. Some disappeared
entirely. Many were insane. The Navy extracted the crew and
proceeded with four days of meetings to decided what to do about the
They decided there would
be one more test with another dry run without personnel. They
conducted the dry run using about 1000 feet of cable attached to
another ship. In late October 1943 the test occurred. The ship
disappeared for about 20 minutes. When it returned, they found
equipment missing. Two transmitter cabinets and one generator was
missing. The cabinet with the zero-time reference generator was
intact. At that point, the Navy stripped the ship and stopped the
project. The Eldridge served in the war and was turned
over to Greece at the end of the war.
The important thing is that there were two tests that were exactly 40
years apart to the day. It was a 40 year separation in hyperspace.
Now, the Earth itself has a biorhythm
that peaks on a 20 year cycle on August 12th. It "just happened"
to peak and provided the connecting link through the fields of the
Earth for the two experiments to lock up in hyperspace. Walk-in
efforts are aided if they occur during this peak.
The ship was pulled into hyperspace. We were inside the ship and knew
something was drastically wrong with the test. We tried to shut it
off but it wouldn't shut off. We ran out on deck and jumped over the
side of the ship. We jumped overboard but ended up in a time tunnel
which ended at Montauk, Long Island on August 12th,
1983. At night. We were found very quickly and taken down stairs,
where Von Neumann greeted us. He expected us. It was a bit of
a shock. We had just been in 1943 and now we were in 1983 looking at
Von Neumann as an old man. He said that there was a hyperspace
lockup and that we had to go back and shut off the generators on the
ship or the hyperspace rift would keep increasing and possibly
engulf the planet. He had been waiting 40 years for us to arrive.
Montauk sent us back and we smashed the equipment with axes.
The ship returned to its original point in space and about three
hours later in time. From 1943 on, Von Neumann didn't know
what happened. He had modified earlier equipment in 1943 to where he
had a full blown time machine. The Germans also were working on time
travel, and had it working in 1945 just before the end of the war.
This is all a matter of record.
After the Navy decided to shut down the project in 1943,
was sent to work on the atomic bomb project at Los Alamos until that
was over. In 1947 there were major changes in the Department of
Defense. Someone in the new structure decided to dig up the
Philadelphia project to see if they could find out what
went wrong. They asked Von Neumann to "take another look" at
the project. He agreed.
There is another matter. Starting about August 6th, 1943,
appeared over the Eldridge for about six days. They
were there during the test. One of the UFOs was sucked up into
hyperspace with the Eldridge and it ended up in an underground
facility in Montauk in 1983. It contained a charging device which
some aliens made us go back and get for them, as they didn't want
humans to have it. We don't know who they were. Pruett was concerned
about an alien invasion.
Also, Von Neumann was called by the government to come and
assist in the examination of a crashed UFO in 1947 at Aztec. Another
crash occurred at Aztec about a year later. The first crash had greys on it and none survived. At least one occupant survived the
second crash. The radar systems unintentionally brought down the
craft. Radar was used intentionally after that until the aliens got
wise to it. The occupant of the second crash was not a grey, and Von Neumann got to talk with it. Von Neumann asked it what the
answer to the invisibility problems could be. He learned that he had
to go back and do his homework in metaphysics. The nature of the
problem was that the personnel on the ship were not locked to the zerotime reference of the ship. Humans are normally locked to the
point of conception as a time reference, not a zero-time reference.
The time stream lock allows the person to flow in synch with the
system so interaction is possible.
Time locks are fragile. All the power of the project disrupted the
time-locks of the people on the deck on the ship. When the ship came
back in time, the people didn't come back to the same reference.
Von Neumann realized that he needed a computer, as well as some
knowledge of metaphysics in order to be able to lock the time
reference of the people to the time reference of the ship. He built
a computer in 1950 for the purpose. It was ready to be installed in
1952 and a test was performed in 1953 that was successful. They
didn't go floating off into space when it was over. At this point,
the Navy canceled Project Rainbow and changed the name
to project Phoenix.
A lot came out of the negative effects of the Rainbow project. Some of
it led to mind control research programs in the Phoenix project. The
invisibility research produced some Stealth technology
as well as other highly classified projects.
In 1983, they decided to apply mind control to all participants in
these projects in an effort to cover them up. They had also been
working on another project: age regression. Now, Tesla had
sought back in the 1940's to develop equipment that could help the
members of the crew after they lost time-lock . The government
developed it into the age regression program. It was physical age
regression. A person retained the memory they had from the older
Tesla's theory was that if you took the individual's time-lock
and moved it forward in time than you would remove aging. That's
what happened. It took between 30 and 60 days for the body to
complete the change to the new time reference.
Now, some of this turned up in the movie called the
Experiment, which was released in 1984. The government got
an injunction which banned showing in the US for two years. It was
overturned in 1986 and it was out on tape. I saw the film in 1988,
and it helped bring back some of my memory about this.
Any initial comments about electromagnetic?
Well, are a lot of interesting aspects. There is a explained by most
theories. It is not magnetic field only propagates at 0.4 of the
electromagnetic field propagates at the speed electric field
(according to Maxwells equations) propagates at the rate of
c-infinity, which means that it propagates throughout the universe
instantaneously. If you understand those basic relationships and how
they interlock with higher order energies and fields, like soliton
and tensor fields, then you can understand how an antigravity drive
It is a fact that the unified field theory was completed
by Einstein and given to the US Government. They have it and they
don't want anybody to know they have it. It was never released
publicly in any books. This kind of knowledge is used as a method of
control between and for governments. It's unfortunate. The
government is supposed to be "for the people and by the people".
That is what it says in the Constitution. I wonder when the last
time the president read the Constitution?
It seems like there are more people involved in secrecy than there
are scientists. Where are all these people?
There are government agents and agencies
are concerned with keeping things secret. These days, the secrecy is
applied more to the applications of hardware than the hardware
itself. It's not like it was in the 1950's. As an example, the
guidance package for the new Minuteman X missile that was developed
for the Air Force by Northrop is unclassified. There was no
classification on the circuitry and It was so accurate that it could
take a missile and drop it down a chimney stack. The applications
was capable of was classified.
Isn't a lot of this left out in the open to distract what is really
What is the capacity of the gravity craft fleet of the United
I don't know. I know that they have built quite a number of them.
What are the capabilities of these craft?
Well, when our astronauts first landed on the moon in 1969 they were
greeted by a fleet of disks sitting on the rim of a crater. The
astronauts asked their superiors if they knew about these disks.
They were told "yes", that they were American disks. The astronauts
were angry at being used as public relations men by the government.
Why spend so much money on the Stealth bomber when they have had
this gravity technology for so many years?
Well, the aircraft combines two aspects for invisibility. One of the
aspects relates to the construction and coating applied to the
surface. The other aspect relates to an electronic type of
invisibility package which is a result of work done on the
Philadelphia experiment years ago. Also, the stealth has
a secondary drive system which is very advanced and allows it to fly
in space. The assistant director of NASA admitted that
this came straight out of alien technology. He admitted this
to the public.
That's interesting in view of the government's apparent position
with respect to covert technology.
There are breaks in the government secrecy programs that are
starting to show up. More and more people are getting
totally disgusted with government activities and attitudes and they
are beginning to talk.
Maybe it's a deliberate leak.
It could be deliberate. Even
MJ-12 in 1984 was about to
break some information to the public about ET's and UFOs. They
decided not to release it at that time. John Kennedy demanded
that they release it within one year. He also demanded that the
CIA get out of the drug business. They assassinated him.
Have you found any resistance to what you have been coming out
No. The Navy keeps quiet, but I hear rumblings underground that they
are definitely not pleased about it. The so-called .. "martyrdom
clause" works in my favor. They know that I know why they can't
touch me. If they do, they know that there will be real problems in
time and space because of it. There are two of us that are holding
certain factors in stability. If anything is done to either of us,
there could be a rip in hyperspace. The whole reality system will
shift. I will give you one guess as to what it will most likely
shift to: We won the second world war by a slim margin.
technology was way ahead of us. If the war had
gone on another 30 days the Germans would have won it. They had
super weapons in production which they were ready to use. They were
so close to winning the war that Churchill and FDR
were really worried about it. If the system shifts, it could shift
to a parallel reality where the Germans won the war.
That's why the government doesn't dare kill either of you?
Right. Because of what we were involved in, it might jeopardize our
entire reality system.
Could you explain how a closed time loop works?
Well, one of the problems that has developed is that when you travel
through time you cannot come back to the exact point of origin.
It has to be later than when you left. If you were to come back to
the exact point at which you took off you would be at the same point
twice in your lifetime and there would be a very serious problem.
Would you refresh my memory about some of the dates involved with
the development of electronic mind control in the US?
The mind control experiments were moved to Montauk about 1969. The
hardware phase of some of the later experiments began about 1975;
equipment to modify the SAGE transmitter was ordered about 1973.
ITT was the main contractor and sub-contracted portions
of the contract out. Most of the contracts were awarded to firms on
So what did they actually prove that they could do when the
experiments were over?
What they essentially proved they could do was that they could control
a person that they had the "signature" for. This pattern that was
unique to an individual could be put into the computer program for
the transmitter. A second order wavelength would be transmitted that
has a lower attenuation and affects that persons mind directly.
There could be a command to do anything focused at the person. Once
a device was constructed that illustrated this principle on a wide
scale. A mental message was put out that if anybody heard the
message they were to call a certain phone number. Over 600 calls
came from all over the East coast all the way down to Florida. It
That's interesting. There's a fellow who calls himself
who says that he is the Christ returned to the planet; that when he
links up with the international press he will send a telepathic
message to the entire planet in their own language and they will
hear it. They also are supposed to receive a visual image. So.. they
have that technology?
Yes. There is not only an individual signature. There's a
signature and also a universal signal for the
human race. The government has used all three to target specific
individuals. They have also done group messages targeted on a
specific racial or ethnic group. That's common. In Boston and New
York they were doing experiments on "mood control" on the cities.
Transmitters used no longer exist, but the technology does.
Do targeted individuals perceive what they are receiving as their
Is there any defense against that?
Yes and no. Theoretically no. This is what the government depends on.
Practically speaking, they can't get everyone, because some people
are naturally resistant, depending on their level of mental and
psychic development. Perhaps 5% of the population do not respond to
these signals. If they get 95% coverage, they don't care about that
5%. That's what they have the riot squads and the concentration
camps for. There is no defense unless you can interfere with that
signal. Some people just don't react.
So they transmit a thought signal?
Not exactly. If you were put on an EEG, you would exhibit a certain
pattern of electrical responses. These can be recorded and they are
unique to you. It can be recorded and stored and replicated on a
computer. If they can replicate your RNA/DNA pattern they've got you too - for life.
You mentioned about concentration camps?
Yes. They are all over the United States. There are three in Arizona
So they can control us to the point where we'll just hand over our
That's what they hope. It depends on how effective this equipment
becomes, how thoroughly installed it is everywhere, and whether or
not people can ferret this stuff out and render it inoperative
before that time arrives.
How about the idea of a conflict between moral conscience and what
the mental command tells you do to?
You don't have the option not to act as it says the way that equipment
is set up - if you are not aware enough to make a connection that it
is not your thought. It does not negate choice, it just puts in a
strong impulse or command. Those people who responded by calling
that number had no idea what went through their heads. Some of this
does require preconditioning to a response pattern.
Could they be doing this over the media, like television and radio?
You're suggesting a state of absolute corruption.
Absolutely correct. Planned corruption.
With this kind of technology, why do they need concentration camps?
Because there are always people that are resistant.
I would think that they would annihilate them, not lock them up. The
first step is the camps, where you can handle them easier, then you
can eliminate them en masse. You don't go down the streets shooting
everybody down. Once you're in the camps, they break you down
mentally. They're experts at that.
We think they're shipping guillotines in there for the people that
don't comply. They're looking for a slave labor force. That is what
H.R. 4079 is about that's in Congress now. It creates a
slave labor force in the prison system, which will be privately
owned. States will pay the private prison a fee in order to put
their prisoner in there.
What are some of the other projects that relate to the capacity of
factions operating within the United States Government and
corporations to manipulate and control the population?
Well between 1977 and 1978 a project called Dreamscan
came on line. It ceased in 1979. The goal of the project was to gain
the technical ability to enter into an individuals mind in the dream
state and cause his death. There was a movie called Dreamscape which
showed what they discovered they could do. The project was run by
the Secret Government and managed by the NSA. The
purpose of the project was to provide for a means of covert
assassination. President Carter found out about it and had it
stopped. The hardware is still intact and in storage. There have
been attempts to put it back on line by various intelligence
operations, some of which are said to involve AT&T
Around 1987, a project called
Moonscan started. It
lasted into 1989 and involved positioning mind control equipment on
the moon for use on the population of earth. It, like the others, has clear connections to negative alien activity.
Who ran that one?
It was managed by an organization called
Laboratories (AIL), who have had other covert projects under
their wing. At the time, AIL was run by Eaton
Corporation. It is now managed by the Department of Defense
as of 1988. There are three branches of
AIL: Covert, Commercial, and Defense.
Any other mind control programs that you can mention?
There was a project called Mindwreaker that would allow
paralysis of the mind. The aliens were heavily involved with that
project. It produced several neurological weapons, some of which
are used on the B-1 bomber, which also contains a lot of alien
technology. At time, various alien species came and went out of
AIL. There was one group called the K-Group,
which was short for the Kondrashkin. They had pale
skin that had a slight greenish tint and almost no hair. They looked
human, and had to bleach their skin and wear wigs. They have been
periodically involved with covert projects since the 1940's.
Where has AIL been located?
In New York Stare, at Farmingdale, Deer Park and Long Island.
What is the current status of AIL?
Well.. there were eight projects ongoing at AIL that
also had to do with the development of weaponry against aliens. In
1989 the Orion group discovered this and destroyed the
projects. It can only be assumed that AIL still
functions in other areas.
What other research goes on at Long Island?
Research on scalar weaponry, like the one that destroyed
I thought the Challenger was destroyed by the Soviets using scalar
No. The Soviets didn't do that. The oddity with the incidents as far
as the Soviets were concerned was that they pulled their ships about
150 miles out to sea before it happened. They were not the direct
cause, which was a scalar weapon that they were trying to put into
orbit and test. It accumulated a charge while the Challenger
was going up through the atmosphere and turned itself on. That is
the Challenger. It might have been deliberate.
What was the ultimate power behind the Phoenix projects?
Ultimately, the whole thing is manipulated by the Orion group.
The expectation was that they could use mind control to take over
the populace in the 1990's - no later than 1994 or 1995. They have
also been doing genetic work in which they alter a human sperm and
ovum to the extent that all offspring will produce hybrids with new
characteristics. Humans will mate and create children with alien
genetics. That's one step beyond the average abduction scenario.
There are other things happening with the human race.
Since 1947, there have been components of the 6th race
incarnating on the planet. The 5th race was the Aryans. The
6th race humans are 100% telepathic - the secret government
and the Orion group sees them as a threat. They've
been aware of it since 1942.
Wasn't there a movie about something like that years ago?
Yes. I don't remember the name, but it came out in 1982. In that film,
there was a drug that made babies that were 100% telepathic. This
kind of thing has actually happened. There was a Canadian company
that was producing a drug which turned out to do just that. This was
between 1946 and 1947. It was removed from the market immediately,
although its use continues privately. In the movie, the government
had a way of using electromagnetic to explode a persons head to get
rid of them.
Sounds like something they might have developed at Montauk.
It does, doesn't it?
What is the current situation with aliens?
Somewhat mixed and confused. There has been a lot going on all around
the planet. In September and October 1990 there was an alien group
from some other dimension that was attempting to invade the planet.
They took down all the zero-time generators all over the country.
The FAA was especially affected. The rogue group was stopped by
another species. For many years, some factions of the Orion
group depended on a ring of alien satellites that would
sustain life functions. Those were wiped out in November 1990 by the
So there are positive light forces out there that are seeking to
balance these negative activities by the Orion group?
Yes. I am not at liberty to tell you their identity.
Do you think that this group is related to those who flew over
military nuclear silos and rendered the warheads inoperative?
I don't know if they were involved, although I could ask. The nuclear
charade is another thing on a cultural level. The idea of nuclear
war was eliminated a long time ago by all major powers on Earth. The
threat of a nuclear winter and the fact that you can't detonate two
nuclear devices too close together in time stops them from doing it.
I think a lot of people are aware that the same forces that control
the United States today are the same forces that supported the
buildup of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union and arranged for WWII
The public has been lied to in so many areas since the early 1930's
that they don't know what's going on. Most people still think
that the Congress and the President run the country and that they
have Constitutional rights.
How about some interesting technology spin-offs from the
Well, there are a lot of them in use by the
CIA and the
NSA, as well as other corporate and government agencies.
There is a portable unit that can render an individual invisible.
The NSA is known to use those on a fairly regular
basis. There is also a UFO research
based covert organization that is believed to have them.
And what would that be?
Well, its a super secret international organization that is funded by
all major governments. It performs research on aliens and alien
technology, cover-up operations, and also does espionage. The group
is negatively oriented and is considered to have no positive
attributes in relation to other humans. It is called the International Aerospace Alliance.
How does it fit into the hierarchy of command and control?
It's connected to MJ-12, which is believed to be headed
at this time. It is also connected to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and
the President. AIL type units are also connected to
I have heard a tape of Robert Lazar, the EG & G scientist, and
others who indicate that the highest clearance level is ULTRA. Is
There is also BLACK LEVEL clearance.
What is involved with those little implants that are spheres?
Those devices are about 3mm in size. They are called SBMCD's,
or Spherical Biological Monitoring and Control Devices. They
represent an organically enhanced synaptid processor powered by a
micro-positron flow that controls or mimics the functions within the
human nervous system with micro relays that duplicate brain
operation or engram patterns.
What is the real story behind Wilhelm Reich?
Most people are familiar with Reichs brilliant work with bions,
weather modification, cancer biopathy and other devices. Reichs work
has been of interest to the National Security Agency for some time,
and it involves the fact that when a person is electronically
maintained in a pre-orgastic state in their nervous system, gateways
unto the mind open up for mind control to take hold. It is his most
secret work as far as applications are involved.
Reichs contact with alien species, his discoveries about life energy and
cancer, and the mind control applications are some of the reasons
why he was killed. This knowledge was combined with other
knowledge, some of it alien in nature, and integrated into the work
at Montauk and subsequent covert projects to subvert
the people of the United States and the world under an Orion
What are some of the ways they put people into this state?
Well, there are these devices. Every psychiatric facility has them.
For a male, they attach electrodes to five points on the body (you
can guess what one of those points are) and turn the device on. It
makes programming an individual really easy. It is devious, but a
lot more humane than the old electroshock therapy. The thing is, the
device is being used for control instead of in a way that might
benefit the individual.
What about the Philadelphia Experiment as related to aliens?
The Philadelphia Experiment was not an alien operation,
as such, but what was the set-up was the date, August 12, 1943,
because it had to be locked to the Phoenix project on
August 12, 1983. The date was set by alien influence in order to
cause a 40-year hole in hyperspace through which large numbers of
alien craft could enter this dimension. It worked, but it didn't
last long enough to give the aliens the maximum benefit of the
scenario. The order for the date came from a man in the White House
who was directing certain aspects of the project.
This man was
one of the K-group and headed what was
called the Psi-corp. It was an alien intervention.
This was scheduled to be a main invasion from a different universe.
How about other types of aliens that were involved?
Most of the other alien groups around, including the ones that had
their shipped sucked into hyperspace, were observers of what was
going on, not participants. Beyond the obvious fact that they were
observing for themselves, there is insufficient data to determine
whether they were observing for anyone else.
What about the alien ship, again, that was trapped underground at
I was part of the group that dismantled it. What is involved is that
you have to find out how everything goes together. You have to read
their manuals... there were seven occupants of that ship; four of
them would not talk to us. Eventually, three of them did, and we
learned their language and deciphered their manuals about the
construction and maintenance of the ship...
They weren't Greys?
No. They were about 6 foot 5 inches tall. They were essentially human
in appearance. They had dark leathery skin. They had no hair. Where
they came from we were not sure. We don't even know why they were
there, except perhaps to observe the test on August 12, 1943. When
the ship appeared in 1983 underground, we were initially concerned
as to whether this ship represented some sort of "point man" for an
invasion of some kind.
Was there any weaponry aboard that craft?
Not that I remember. The ship had a lot of strange devices on it. We
took a lot of stuff apart. We took off part of the control panels,
and communications equipment. We decided not to touch the main power
plant because we thought it might blow up if we fooled with it. We
left the food processing units intact. The ships drive systems were
removed. A lot of the ship was stripped down right to the shell. It
was left that way.
Why would they suspect an invasion?
I don't know, except that there have been so many groups over the
years trying to invade this planet. One wonders why they want to
bother with this mud ball and its backward technology.
John Lear suggests that the human race represents a gene pool.
That is one good possibility. Another one, and I get this from sources
I can't reveal at this moment, is that they are seeking certain rare
earth elements they apparently can't find elsewhere.
Robert Lazar mentioned a book that contained the history of
earth and that it said that humans were referred to as ..containers
for souls" and that souls could be traded in something like a barter
The aliens are doing it all the time.
They're trading in souls?
Yes. They were shuffling us around like we were cattle to them.
Property. What do you think of that concept as applied to humans?
Well, it is mentioned that several races consider humans in some ways
similar to that. Whether it is the bodies or the souls that are
considered property, I don't know. It appears that they are
concerned more with the bodies, the genetics, and the capabilities
of the human mind. The capabilities of the human mind are
virtually unlimited. That fascinates some species.
Those aliens that were on that ship. What became of them?
Out of the seven, four did not talk and three did talk to us. One of
the group that did not talk to us was evidently the captain of the
ship. He eventually killed the three that did talk to us. The four
remaining aliens were put into "deep freeze" by the people who were
running the underground at Montauk. I have no idea
what they did with the other three bodies.
What happened to the craft?
It's still there, as far as I know. It was a gold colored saucer about
sixty feet in diameter. It had a bulge on both the top and bottom.
In one of Linda Moulton Howe's books they had pictures of types of
alien writing. Were you ever able to determine the language they
The language they were using was apparently that of the Greys.
symbol that the Greys use a lot is the same symbol that
the Trilateral Commission uses.
How big is the underground at Montauk?
It's very large. It extends for miles, especially the 5th and 6th
levels. Almost all of it was constructed in the late 1920's or early
1930's. We talked to one of the men who was one of the contractors
who built it. It was built on government orders right after the
depression started. It was built in six levels. They covered the top
over with earth. It's known locally as "the hill". Its a huge base.
There may still be some use of it. Most of it is shut down. The
power has been on for two years now, single phase 220 volt. The
elevator used ran on three-phase 440 volts, and that has not been
turned on, probably because they plugged all main openings and the
elevator shaft with concrete.
How many different species of aliens are you aware of?
Well, the Greys were not part of Montauk.
By agreement they never went there. There were groups that were part
of it, like a group who called themselves the Leverons.
There were those there from Antares that were only observers. They looked like humans.
There were members of the
Orion group there occasionally. The K-group
had some connection with the place, but I personally never saw any
of them there. Lastly, there were the inhabitants of that ship that
was captured. The Orion Confederation includes a lot
of groups, including the Leverons.
The Orion group is supposedly at war with a group called the
Elohim. Would you say that is accurate?
Yes. This is happening. The Elohim group is a very old
race, perhaps the oldest in the universe. At least its the oldest we
Is there any particular species that has the greatest control over
The Orion group. They're the weasels in the background
that manipulate everybody, including the Greys. The
Orion group includes the various reptilian species.
Was the zero-time generator from alien sources?
No. Tesla created the zero-time generator in the 1920's. It
provided a very basic time reference which is actually locked to the center of our galaxy. That's why they call it a
time generator. Locking equipment to that is the only way
you can get some of these higher function generators to work.
The aliens use crystals quite a bit.
Yes. Crystals can store and modulate enormous amounts
of energy. There was a crystal in the alien ship that ended up
at Montauk that was about 18 inches long. Other
factions of the alien group appeared in one of the side tunnels off
the main time tunnel and captured several of us, and wouldn't let us
go unless one of us went back and got that crystal for them. We did.
The problem was is that we were in the time tunnel too long, because
the time references the man I was with dissolved, and he began to
age at the rate of about a day per hour. Within three days he was
What are some of the ways the government became involved in time
The Navy had the ability to use the time travel technology from about
1970 and developed full operational capability in 1973. They did do
an experiment where they tried to go back and kill the father of the
man destined to be the head of the new One-World Government.
They did kill his father, but it made no difference. They didn't
understand why it didn't work. Robert Lazar was voicing the
concept that time is quantitized or compartmentalized and that you
can't change what has already happened in terms of the past.
Is the Navy tied in with the secret government?
Small elements in the Navy are, but the Navy in general is not.
So in the 1970's they were against what was going on and tried ways
to stop it?
Yes. At Montauk we did succeed in changing the past,
so I know it can be done, but it takes enormous amounts of power and
more than just a time machine, but I won't get into that.
So the person who will be the head of the One World Government is
walking around and has no father?
Theoretically that is true.
How could this guy have come into existence?
That's a very good question. That's another one of the paradoxes of
Was this person already in existence before they went back and
killed his father?
Yes. They assumed that he would disappear and cease to exist.
Do you know who this individual is?
No. Not by name.
Is the One World government interested in longevity? It seems like
all these plans are on a long term basis. It would also seem like it
would take too long before those in control could really reap the
When you get to the level of the warped mentality of the world leaders
that are controlled by the Orion group, you don't
really know what their goals are. They are totally dependent on a
specific technology, including time machines which are anchored in
the 40 years time rift plus the extensions in the time matrix which
goes another 20 years. Time machines are based in the technology
that had its origin here within that time period, and from what I
understand as of 2003 they will suddenly find that their time
machines no longer function.
Because they were created on the basis of something which was
basically artificial - the rift in time. The function is based on
the rift. Then its back to the drawing boards.
Have they constructed any concrete plans based on the rift that
might disappear when the rift does?
I don't know. I can't speak for the whole government.
Are any Orion based timetables involved in this?
the Orions have their own ways of doing things.
Would they be dependent on this rift?
No, but the Greys are somewhat dependent on it, having
used it to get here in large numbers. The Orion group
itself is not here in a large number.
They let others do the dirty work for them?
Do you get any particular feeling what things are like within the
secret government with respect to the groups of aliens?
Well, they were panic stricken to get rid of the Greys.
I don't know if they're that panic stricken any more, because I
understand that the Orions are essentially gone,
except for the mop-up squad, which have their own life support
The general life support for the others was destroyed by another alien
group in November 1990. They could not exist here without electronic
support from the ring of satellites they put up there ages ago.
Almost all of them packed up and left.
What is the nature of the electronic support?
They cannot stand the vibrations of this planet. The Greys
like it because this planet is very much like their own home planet.
How would all this relate to the idea that their is a planetoid
coming into this system with a bunch of reptilians on it. Would they
bring their own electronic life support systems?
Yes. They can replace the satellites. They may well be back before
How do you view that scenario, where the planetoid full of Orion
reptilians, or Draco, is coming here?
Well, we monitored the signals coming from the planetoid. They were
coming in at around 25MHZ with twelve carriers spaced 50KHz apart.
Orion group reptilians have twelve chakras, maybe that
has something to do with it.
Then this could be the part of the electronic signal that might
even be representative of their electronic life sustenance matrix?
It might well be necessary to set up transmitters of our own that
would interfere with that kind of electromagnetic emanation.
How about the Orion genetics?
It's very similar to that of humans. For a long time they were hoping
to crossbreed. It didn't work properly. That was one of the side
issues of the Montauk-Phoenix project, to find ways of
crossbreeding. They never did fully solve the problems.
So this is where the concept of twelfth density would come in?
Yes. Probably. What they were hoping to do if they succeeded in
crossbreeding humans and Orions was a silent invasion
where they would take over humanity by crossbreeding and eliminate
the humans they didn't want. At that point, Orion souls
would move into the crossbred bodies and it would be complete. They
would not need electronic support systems to survive here, which
consists of 12 satellites.
So how does this affect the world government plans, now that the
Orion group is temporarily gone?
It changes the context of the system that backed up the One-World government. They were backed up by and expected
support from the
Orion group. With the Orions out of the picture, they
are on their own.
How about the Greys?
They're running around in circles. They are probably continuing with
the genetic work and the abductions but they are lacking all
direction except that which they already had established.
There was a recent abduction of woman in Seattle on December 3,
1990 where there were beings that looked human. They told them,
however, that they weren't really human and allowed them to see
their true form. It was a variant reptilian species they had never
seen before. They asked the abductees questions about their
experiences with the Greys. The woman got the impression that the
reptilian humanoids thought that the Greys were going to far in
their interactions with humans and that they were looking into it.
No data on that one.
Well, since they were looking into Grey excesses in behavior, they
probably were an offshoot group and not anything to do with the
They probably were an offshoot group. I have gotten the impression
that not all the Orion Confederation is evil. There is
a group within the Orion Confederation that function as sort of
overseers and they are apparently quite upset about what these
Greys are doing, but apparently there is not much they have
been able to do about it. The basic heart of the Orion
Confederation that we have become familiar with is totally evil and self-centered.
They basically want to take over the Earth?
Yes. They want to take Earth because of their desire for the planet as
a staging base. They also desire the water and the minerals. There
have only been partial success of their cross breeding program. A
few hybrids have survived. They essentially look human but have
Orion genetics within them.
What's going on in Washington right now?
They are up to their eyeballs in problems. They consider the thing
with Hussein in the Middle East as the least of their
What are they concerned with?
They are concerned with AIDS and other, disease problems
which are coming to earth from space. There are currently two
huge clouds of amoeba-like creatures over the polar regions of the
earth. These have shown up periodically over the last ten years.
NASA is working on this. Every time they've been detected,
all kinds of strange illnesses break out. They don't how they can
stay alive and be in outer space. They're very concerned about that.
The AIDS situation is so far advanced that it is
considered to be a disaster.
How do you bounce that against the fact that AIDS was created at
Fort Detrick, Maryland? Are the aliens ultimately behind that as
I don't know. It's very possible. It originated on the orders of the World Health Organization. I suppose you have to go back
and see who was responsible for this diabolical plan within WHO to create a virus that would destroy the human immune
system. They found out that once it was released that it mutated
like crazy and there is no way to produce a vaccine for it. The
government does have a way to cure it, but they do that on a pretty
selective basis. The cure involves electromagnetic. There are
also other means that have been discovered, but the government
doesn't want the outside world to have it. Its part of the
population reduction program.
Which is whose idea?
Apparently it was a decision reached by the secret government. The
final decision was made in the White House in 1972 on the basis of a
meeting of world leaders under Nixon. A friend of mine got
the notes from that. He's now in prison, and he talked about it
publicly in 1974. He said that they had the meeting and agreed that
the planet was overpopulated and that it had to be reduced. The
decision was to reduce the population from 5 billion, which it was
at that time, to 1 billion by the year 2000. They were to use
any and all means to do this. They believed that the earth could
only handle 1 billion inhabitants. Their problem was how to
exterminate 80% of the world population in 30 years. They modified
the figure to be 2 billion by 2000, but the AIDS thing
is going to take care of a good part of that for them. The latest
figures coming out of Washington indicate that Africa is now as good
as doomed. In another ten years, 75% of Africa will be dead.
There have been recent figures to suggest that 92% of all babies
born in Africa today have the virus.
Yes. In India, the rate is 51%.
It seems extremely irresponsible for a government to create
something that can take people and do that to them.
Well, it was the "undesirables" that were given the virus first.
They should have known that this thing was going to get out of
They didn't know that was going to happen. It was also figured that it
would affect the young set, those in their prime, most.
If they travel in time and know that geophysical changes will take
care of a large part of the world's population, why would they
bother to do it? Especially because you have a bunch of 50 year old
men having to wait 30 years.
I don't know. Obviously they didn't think.
Or it wasn't them who were ultimately responsible. The only ones who
would have a long term anything to gain would be aliens, so it
further indicates that ultimately there are negative off-planet
forces that are responsible. The aliens know about the changes.
How did they spread the virus initially?
World Health Organization inoculations that were
contaminated with the virus. The first program was in black Africa
in 1974 with the smallpox inoculations. They then went to Brazil and
other Hispanic countries and did it there. In 1978, they laced the
gamma globulin for the Hepatitis B vaccine because the homosexual
population was the greatest consumer. That's why it showed up first
in the United States in the homosexual population and why it was
claimed to be a homosexual disease. Nothing could be further
from the truth, but it was something the Evangelists
took up quickly, saying that AIDS was "Gods curse on the
homosexual". People didn't worry about it who weren't gay. The
people who planned this didn't figure on the ability of the virus to
It must taken someone with a really stupid mentality to do this.
What kind of disturbances have appeared with each appearance of
these amoeba-like clouds?
Respiratory disturbances. It's been detected in the New York area and
on the west coast. Details are scant, but they consider it a major
problem. It affects the human system directly. It is also the
mechanism behind the influenza attacks in 1916 and 1917 that killed
so many people.
It is possible that the ozone layer was deliberately affected in
order to allow this influence to come through?
I don't know. The greenhouse affect is taking hold because of it.
Is there any particular alien species whom it would benefit if the
earth dried up and became desert?
Yes. The reptilians species might be good candidates.
Where do the Greys come from originally?
From outside our time/space continuum. The government does not
fully understand where that is, since they don't trust a lot of
their information about them.
Do the Pleiadeans use the gravity amplifier to fold time and space?
No. They have a hyperspacial drive system. They don't do it in the
same way. They use velocity rather than folding.
Aren't they beneficial to humans?
They have not been invited to help. They are also sensitive to earth
politics, galactic directives, and their own policies. It comes down
to the fact where you don't interfere when you're not asked.
Even when you are asked, there are limits to what you can do.
Can they be asked?
Well, in the case where you would have interference on a mass basis,
like in response to the Orion incursion, you're
getting involved with the history of all humanity. We'll have to
I would think that the only hope would be to collectively raise the
consciousness of the entire planet.
Right. There are also other problems. The government worked out a deal
with the Greys some time ago and has some of their
technology. Weapons have been developed. They now have a missile
that has a minimum operational range of 1 light year. We can hit any
spacecraft well beyond the solar system.
I saw a brief on the news where the Star Wars technology is being
turned around in space to hit down asteroids. Will they in fact be
used primarily as a planetary defense against alien incursion?
Yes. The directives out of Washington seem to point to the fact that
the secret government wants no aliens here at all interfering with
their plans. They have not solved the problem with the Greys.
How do aliens refer to religious concepts?
As far as I know,
none of them have any religion as such. They
acknowledge a divine source in the universe. The Greys
refer to the universe as a mind.
What is your prognosis for the future of the human species?
It will survive.
Why was it mentioned at one time that 2011 was the last year that
they could see anything tangible?
It was mentioned in the Mayan calendar that 2011-2013
was a barrier of some kind. Psychics have said that there is a
"barrier" around 2013 that they can't go through.
That doesn't mean there is nothing beyond that.
No. It's just blocked from view. Even to the time machines. There are
a lot of people wondering whether they are going to retain control
over humanity beyond 2013.
There seems to be a quickening of consciousness right now as we are
beginning to go into fourth density.
Right. There seems to be some evidence of this.
Do you know where the current entrances to Montauk are?
No, but I know they're there. The last time two people went out there
to look they were abducted. They were knocked out electronically and
taken underground to another facility where mental adjustments were
made on them. They were returned to the spot, but one of them was
not returned exactly at the same time as the other. There was about
a 2 second gap and the one that was already there saw it. They knew
immediately that something was wrong. They were given a warning. The
underground system is still in operation. There are three entrances
near AIL. They have three plants in the Farmingdale
area. Brookhaven National Laboratories have an entrance to the
system. There is also a connection to the Newark ITT
Corporation building. From there a spur that goes to the ITT
facility at Nutley. There is also a tunnel that goes from Newark to
Wright Patterson AFB.
Do they use Maglev trains in this tunnels?
Yes. There is a very extensive tunnel network under the United
States. The interesting things is that once you get past the
coding system at the entrance elevators and get into the
underground, nobody asks any questions. They assume you are supposed
to be there, unless you make it obvious that you are not by your
actions or appearance.
Why do humans age?
There are two genes missing from the human chromosome. One of them
controls the aging process, so humans age. Because of this, when
cells are duplicated in the body they are compared to the parent
cell, not a master pattern that would exist in the genes, so the
duplicate is not exactly the same is time. So humans age gradually.
There has been some discussion of the biorhythm cycles of the
planet. Could you explain that again?
The cycles of humans are well known. It was not known until after 1983
after Montauk went down that the earth has cycles. It
was discovered by accident. After an analysis, it came out that
there were four basic cycles involved. These four cycles reach their
maximum peak every 20 years. It's always on the 12th of August.
So the next peak will be in 2003?
Do the biorhythm cycles of humans and those of the planet
It is not known to interlock.
Have you seen the movie Millennium? What can you say about the
concepts portrayed there?
Yes. It was well done. It was an attempt to explain some
disappearances. It's an intriguing idea. Strangely enough, they
didn't cover something that really happened in Denver around 1965. A
jet was coming in on final approach in daylight with no bad weather
and vanished entirely from the radar screen. It was never found. No
trace. Years later, in Tucson, I met the son of a man who was vice
president of United Airlines. I asked him about it. He said, "how
did you hear about that?". I said I read it in the newspapers and
then it was hushed up. He said, .. "you better believe it was". I
asked him if anyone knew what happened to it, and he said that they
had no idea. There was no wreckage, nothing. There is no way it
could have happened like that.- but it did. The ideas in Millennium
were more along the line of something they would have developed in
the Phoenix project.
Are there any tunnels under the Pyramids?
There is a tunnel under Giza. No one knows when it was
constructed or how.
How about spacecraft or anything else like that?
An expedition was mounted as a result of data gathered back in the
1920's and 1930's about a secret chamber under the pyramid.
They built equipment in later years and went in down into the
pyramid and found this metal door 500 feet below the base of the
pyramid. They found other doors. The doors used a sonic code. They
found a room with over 30,000 recording disks and alien equipment.
They made photos of the disks with IR film. The Egyptian government
wouldn't allow them to take any out. The disks were deciphered. They
described the rise and fall of civilizations in outer space going
back more than 100,000 years. This group built this record room and
then built the pyramid over it. There was no UFO, but a lot of
equipment was stored on three levels. They photographed over 2,700
record disks. According to an Air Force contact, these disks are
sitting in a safe at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico. They don't want the
public to know the information.
How is the government involved in cattle mutilations?
Human scientists are involved with longevity studies using adrenalin.
They have developed altered adrenalin, and drugs called cordrazine,
cortropinex, formazine, and hyronalix. All of them have an adrenalin
base. The only way to get the large quantities of adrenalin is to
get them from cattle. Some of the substances they develop affect
psychic development. Other drugs have physical restoration
properties. Aliens use cattle for the biological materials as well.
They use the materials in their breeding program and for the
construction of cloned individuals.
Do you know when the Federal Reserve is going to issue the new
I don't know. There have been several dates that have come and gone.
When they do, all the current cash will be worthless.
The plan is to give a short notice date by which people will have to
turn in their old money for new. Of course, you will have to account
for it, especially since it is now illegal for you to have $3,000 or
more on your person. It's coming.
Would you consider the secret government the Fourth Reich?
It's hard to say. My understanding of it is that the secret government
is not connected with the Nazis but with world bankers,
old money and what's called the "black nobility".
These were the blue-bloods of Europe. They actually did have blue
blood, and it was not hemoglobin based but copper based. They were
semi-human. There are still to this day, some animal species in
South America that have copper based blood systems. There was a
problem with hemophilia, and not because of intermarrying. The
problem was that they started to marry outside of the copper
based blood system. Hemoglobin and copper systems don't mix.
That's where the laws against marrying commoners originated.
What about these synthetic humans?
Human cloning was developed at the University of Utah at Salt Lake
City in 1977. They first aired this on TV as part of a
series. They had an alleged human clone on TV that they were
interviewing. It didn't talk very well. They showed the original
human and the clone. The clone was not all that successful. It took
14 months to generate a fully adult human clone in a tank. It was a
two part series. The second part of the series never aired, for
obvious reasons. CIA
sources have confirmed that it started at the University of
The government has a facility for clones. The first one was built in
the Mount Hood area, about sixty miles east of Portland, Oregon.
They have other facilities in other locations. Locations must have
stable geomagnetic fields and other special characteristics
or the cloning process does not work properly. They can replicate
them faster now. They have clones of all the major government
figures. This is partly for security reasons. it also creates the
situation that when someone falls out of favor, they clone the
person and kill the original. This kind of thing apparently happens
with some frequency.
There have been allegations by some that Carter and Reagan were
Yes. I've heard that, but I have no information that says that it
happened. Reagan looked a bit funny after his assassination
attempt, particularly after he came out of the hospital.
It's curious about the cloning facility in Portland. Were there not
reports in the 1960's or 70's about people seeing a spitting image
of Hitler there?
Yes. it is curious. There isn't any connection that we can establish,
but anything is possible. Hitler could have died as late
as 1984. I have heard rumors that he was the top director of the
Phoenix project, but those rumors were not considered to
have any merit by most people.
Eichmann was apparently involved at one point until the
Israelis got him. A lot of top level Nazi scientists were involved.
There was a man called Huntermann who was the associate
director of the project. We wondered if there was anybody above him.
There was - a complete collection of pure Nazis at the top. The
Germans were also involved in work with the Greys and
Are they Nazis still running things?
I don't know what interconnections they may have today. I have two
friends who say opposite things. One says that the Nazis are in
charge and the other says that Jewish scientists are in charge.
Other people say its
MJ-12. Take your pick.
I think that they're
That's very interesting about the duality of the Germans
Jews. Recently, we received information that these
two groups of entities are originally from one source out there
somewhere, and that they were banned to this planet to work out
their differences. They have apparently always sought to destroy
each other ... and they are still doing it on many levels. Everyone
else just has to stand by and put up with it, I guess. It just adds
to the mess. Orientation of both groups appears to be negatively
oriented toward service to self instead of others. There have been
things recently said by abductees that indicate that they were taken
to joint Nazi-Alien bases were they had swastikas on
the walls. This was within the last two years.
Do you remember the
Reinhold-Schmidt story? He was a
businessman who lived in New Jersey in the 1950's. I finally got a
copy of his book. He insisted that one time when he was driving home
from work, something went wrong with his car. He was approached by
someone and was taken aboard a saucer. All the occupants were
dressed in black clothing and talked in German. To him it appeared
like they might be Nazis. He wasn't sure but he thought they were.
They picked him up by agreement several times thereafter. He began
talking about it and he had a visit from government agents who told
him to shut up. He insisted. He was picked up and put into treatment
in a mental hospital for about four months. When he came out he was
a changed man. He died sometime later. Up until he went into the
mental hospital, he was insistent on his story. This was
approximately 1956. I'm not sure. He was a prominent businessman. It
was a sensational story at the time.
It's interesting that you should mention copper based blood before.
Aren't the Nordics involved with that?
Yes. Although Nordics are humanoid and externally almost
identical to humans. There are subtle differences in the Nordic
alien physiology, and most of them are based on the living
conditions that they have grown up in. Their planets are extremely
hot and dry, and have a low oxygen content in the atmosphere. They
have a larger lung capacity than humans and have a
copper based blood in order to carry oxygen more
efficiently. The eyes are protected by inner lids and can allow them
to see into the ultraviolet range of the spectrum. They have only 28
teeth, as they lack a back pair of molars. Their heads are longer
than humans. The brain case is about .2 mm thicker and the bone is
harder. The brain is the same as the human brain as far as structure
and size is concerned, except for the midbrain area,
where there are functions that allow telepathic and telekinetic
skills. It explains the psionic powers of the Nordics.
They average about 2 meters in height. Females about 1.7 meters. They
have no sweat glands. The skin allows moisture to be drawn from the
air as well as moisture to penetrate. The heart beats at around 242
beats per minute, and the average blood pressure is 80 systolic and
40 diastolic. They have extremely dilated blood vessels. The heart
is located where the human liver would be. The cartilage that would
protect a human heart extends down 3.5cm further in the Nordic
in order to protect this structure. Blood cells are biconvex in
contrast to the concave cells of humans. Kidney type functions only
allow about half the liquid consumed to be excreted. The rest is
evidently put back into the system. Urine is thick with minerals and
appears in color and texture to freshly pumped crude oil. Feces are
dry pellets with all moisture removed. The adult
Nordic can regulate the amount of adrenalin in their
body. They have no pineal gland. Nordic females are
capable of being impregnated at any time, but the males are capable
of impregnation about once a year. The period of incubation is three
to five months.
What about the Sirians?
Well, we are finding out that they are seemingly involved in the
Dark Side activities with abductees along with the
Greys and elements of the US military and intelligence
forces. We are finding out that Reich
programming is currently being used as of December 1990 on abductees.
This is a direct outgrowth of work at Montauk. The Sirians are usually described as about 6 feet tall,
blond hair cut very short, and blue eyes that have a cat's eye
vertical pupil. They're negatively oriented. I have been
working on a case where this 21 year old woman has had contact with
them, the last time being in December 1990. The beings present were
the short little helpers that the Greys use; the ones
that wear hooded cloaks.
There were Grey clones,
Sirians and US military personnel of some description.
The woman had her breasts and other body parts hooked up to some
machine that maintained her in a pre-orgastic state while they used
inculcation bars with red and blue lights to aid in the programming.
When she does something they don't like, they take her out of her
body and stick her in this black box, where there is terrible
loneliness and isolation.
She really broke down when she was
describing that, saying that she didn't want them to put her back in
the box. They evidently told her that if she talked too much they
were going to do that. On the lighter side, she has also had contact
with positive groups. There has been some discussion as to whether
these negative Sirians are part of the
Kamagol II group that built the records chamber
under Giza, but that has not been established. The negative Sirians are considered part of the
group that is playing the domination/control game.
Is there some significance to the red and blue lights in the
The lights on the bar are of special frequencies. Pulsing of these
lights is often combined with sonic patterns to virtually reprogram
the mind of the individual. This kind of activity has been going on
for tens of thousands of years. Why do you think that the Orion based groups that control today's society use red and
blue on police car lights? Its very restimulative and many people
have buried memories of programming sessions that have occurred
through their various lives. The result is fear and negative
emotional response. It appears that during the last 40 years there
have been a lot of people that have been incarnating that were on
one side or the other in Nazi Germany, and we are finding a lot
of abductees that have memories of the Greys
during that period. Sometimes they find that they are dealing with the
same exact beings they dealt with in another lifetime. Of course, we
know that abductions also follow multi-generational patterns. It all
There have been some that have said that Hitler was connected into
things in terms of the Aryan race and ET's. What is the story behind
Well, Hitler spend a lot of time in libraries before his mother
died, and he was convinced that the white race was going to be
squeezed out of existence in another 75 years. He decided that he
was going to be the defender of the Aryan race. This was back before
World War One. He was also relating this to the Protocols of the
Learned Elders of Zion, where in the 24th protocol it says
that the white race will be destroyed by genetic inter-marriage. He
wanted to stop the trend. He became interested in metaphysics.
The Dark Side involvement began after a bout with peyote
before World War One and his involvement with the Thule
Society, which was connected to Aleister Crowley and
Order of the Golden Dawn in England. Hitler also
adopted the idea of fighting the communists, because the communists
were just about ready to take over Germany. There were not Greys around in large numbers but they were there. The
Germans were involved with alien technology. They had one version
with electromagnetic drive.
They had jet
aircraft in 1943.
They had nuclear weapons but
Hitler did not use them. Mind
control research was ongoing.
Getting back to present day, what do you think about the idea that
the Saudi government is being bankrupted by the US?
the Rockefeller group sold the Saudis 30 year
notes back in the 1960's. They are coming due. The Saudis want to
get out of the paperwork nightmare so they won't lose all their
money. The Rockefeller banks were going to declare
bankruptcy, so the Saudis said they would pull all their investments
out of the United States and collapse the economy totally. The
United States backed down and that is the reason why there is all
that forgiveness of debt business going on. It was done with Bushes authority. The Saudis were satisfied. Now the problem
with Iraq arises.
The Israelis have refused to carry out the deals
they have made about leaving the west bank area. Hussein
is saying that if the United States can convince Israel to do that
for the Palestinians, then he will walk out of Kuwait. That will
defuse the entire Middle East situation. January 15th is the
apparent deadline date. There are people in government that are
crazier than Hussein. As of early December 1990, a contract already
Flora Construction company to rebuild Kuwait, so its
going to happen anyway.
Does Iraq have nuclear devices?
I'm not sure. They were stealing trigger devices for quite a while
before the government found out about it and started substituting
non-functional ones. It's believed that they do. The Iraqis are also
said to have devices that had their origin in Nazi Germany, such as
the air-fuel bomb, which will "turn the air to fire" and suffocate
American troops. There is a concern that he will also use chemical
weapons. The United States used chemical weapons in Korea and
Vietnam. If Iraq uses them, the United States will respond with
devastating force. It would be a good time for the secret government
to bring out their disks and impersonate alien species in an attempt
to pacify the planet. When the United States wins the conflict, it
will produce potential problems for years.
It is seen as the only option. They could impose this in a
pseudo-religious way in an attempt to unify religious groups that
are on "holy war" campaigns. Either way, presence of .. "an
apparently benevolent technology" would cause a peaceful
unification. Presence of "an apparent malevolent technology" would
achieve the same thing, but with a negative unification based on
fear. There are again another aspects to the middle east scenarios.
One aspect is that the middle east represents an annoying delay to
the secret government that has been caused by Iraq. This delay could
affect certain types of agenda. Another aspect is that since the US
basically controls the planet, all this is a sham for the public -
to keep humans up tight, in fear, and at each others' throats it
could be reflective of what is ultimately an Orion based
agenda. It is a matter of record that flying disks have been
seen in all wars and conflicts.
How about the Congress? Are they aware of the alien and drug things
that are going on?
Some of them are, but they are turning their heads because they want
to collect their retirement. They're just hoping the government will
be solvent when they get to that point. There is no question that as
we enter 1991, many agendas will accelerate and many hands will be
Are the men in black residents of Earth?
The group is an
off-world one. They monitor conditions
on the planet. They are not physical beings, but they can become
Do the black helicopters have anything to do with the MIB?
No. They are managed by the Army. It is a super secret group
that have bases all over the United States. They have one near
Sedona. They have one in Connecticut and in Newark, New Jersey. The
helicopters have no markings and are used for operations involving
drug smuggling, mutilations and security for alien related
operations and projects. Obviously, it's all illegal as hell, and
they have been getting away with it for 40 years.
What about the subliminal programming that happens with television?
The FCC "ruled" years ago that it was illegal, but it never stopped.
You find it more common on cable TV. There are using subliminal
conditioning on all cable networks. They use it to
emphasize different elements of what you are seeing around you.
People end up being brainwashed and stay ignorant.
What are some of the capabilities they have?
The government has vans that drive around that are capable of complete
mind disruption. They have used it before to kill a man in his house
in fifteen minutes. All it takes is four helicopters flying in
tandem to completely mentally wreck a city if they have those pods
on them. The pods are an outgrowth of the Phoenix project.
They, can produce heavy mood control over a city. They are going
into areas beyond the electromagnetic. They are trying to increase
the stress level in the population. It is no secret that Bechtel was laying cables under major metropolitan areas
several years-ago, claiming that it was being laid for "others" whom
they wouldn't reveal. It had nothing to do with electric, telephone
or cable TV.
What is another possibility as to why the death of the father of
the One World government failed to produce the dematerialization of
the future leader of the One World government?
This seeming paradox can be better explained this way: The people who
went back and tried to kill the father were successful but the son
still lived. This is all related to the Grandfather Paradox.
The truth of the matter is that they prevented the birth of the
leader of the
One World government not in the time stream where the
existing person was born but in a parallel one where he never
existed in the first place. It existed before and after the effort
to kill the father; the parallel time stream also exists where
the Germans overtly won the second world war.
differing but parallel interrelated worlds and universes,
each having an endless number of streams relating to individual
entities. These streams are ultimately expressed as different
patterns and outcomes for the same entity depending on the level of
expression for the entity at any one time. All divergent entities
are part of the one reality which is the all embracing unity. The
varied potential tracks all exist as one unified central force. The
parallel tracks that exist in our universe, depending upon which one
of them is taken, will determine the ultimate outcome for the
individual entity, and this can change.
What is the actual nature and purpose of the Orion group?
Basically, the purpose of the Orion group
enslavement and conquest. Their objective is to locate certain
individuals who vibrate in resonance with their own vibrational
complex and manipulate them. There is a concept called spiritual entropy which apparently causes them to experience
constant disintegration of their social memory complexes. They do
follow the Law of One but observe free will according
to service to self. Those on the enslaved planet then disseminate
the attitudes and philosophy which is service to self.
These individuals become the "elite". Through the elite, the attempt
begins to create a condition whereby the remainder of the planetary
entities are enslaved by their free will.
That seems like what is happening on the planet right now,
especially in the United States.
Why don't they just come down in force instead of using the back
door, as it were?
Well, they could. A mass landing would create a loss of polarization
due to the infringement on the free will of the
planet. If the planet were then conquered and became part of the
Empire, the free will would then be reestablished. The way they are
doing it is characteristic of the Orion group - to
have others do their dirty work for them, including humans. That
way, the abridgement of free will is not so obvious. It
didn't help the situation when agreements were made with different
alien species. It didn't matter that the agreements were made with
groupings of humans that did not represent the wishes of the mass
consciousness. The technical fact of the agreement allowed a lot of
action that was negatively polarized. The Orion group
specifically targets civilizations before they become a social
What does it mean to have a society with a social memory?
Well, a social complex consisting of individual entities becomes a
social memory complex when it adopts one orientation or seeking in a
specific direction. When this happens, the group memory that was
not available to individuals becomes known. The advantage
of a social memory complex is the relative lack of distortion.
What does polarization mean for an individual entity?
Generally, entities can have little or no polarization, positive
polarization or negative polarization. A positively polarized
entity will select a path embodying service to others.
An entity choosing
negative polarization would focus on service to self.
A negative polarization involves the elements of control and
repression. For example, a negatively polarized entity would seek
separation from and control over others by sexual means and have the
idea of power as an end. The negatively oriented entity will program
for maximum separation from and control over all entities which it
perceives as being other than itself.
Are not all humans, for example, expressions of each other?
Well, yes. Entities will eventually realize that their actions on
other selves are actually being done to themselves, since the
consciousness present in each entity is a variation on the same
thing. The individuation is present to allow maximum differentiation
of potentiality and creation.
Many people have been discussing the idea that we are going into
fourth density. What does that mean?
Basically another general vibratory rate. It also relates to
the realization that one is not separate from the creator.
It is that kind of spectrum which has been called by the Christians
as the "second coming". The second coming is a state of being, not
an individual arriving and establishing a power hierarchy.
When will this be completed?
Well, entities on this planet should make the attempt to polarize in
terms of what excites them no later than 1993, or it will be harder
to do so. Polarization can be positive or negative. Generally, the
fourth density is much more full of life. Entities must still care
for their physical vehicles. It is also a density where compassion, understanding and love are more predominant.
Full conversion to fourth density will occur between 2003 and 2013.
Its interesting that according to the mathematics behind the I
Ching, everything goes jackpot around 2012.
Yes. Nothing will be the same on Earth. It is changing right now. What
we are seeing is basically the death of the third density way of
Does density level refer to polarization?
An entity can be negatively polarized and in fourth density, but it is
an intense struggle because of the development of telepathic
functions. If there is a place in which fourth density negative
entities have established a power structure, then there is more use
of the concept of mind control in order to keep the negative
structure from conversion to positive orientation.
What about the upcoming geological changes? How does that relate to
all of this?
The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. The
time/space continuum has put Earth and that star system into that
type of vibration. This causes electromagnetic realignments within
the body of the planet. The energies and collective thought
forms of the population also disturb the energy patterns of
the planet. Geological changes accompany transition between
densities. At this point we are in the last 20 years at the end of a
cycle which has lasted 75,000 years.
Anything more about fourth density?
The majority of the Orion group are of fourth density.
Some are positively oriented toward service to others, but most that
are concerned with the current situation are negatively polarized
and playing the domination game. Entities on Earth following any
religion or no religion at all will move into fourth density if they are that vibration. Entities not at fourth density
vibration will remain at third density vibration and will move to
other locations to continue third density life until their
vibrational level increases and polarizes in time with a cycle of
density movement. The polarization can be positive or negative.
How does the idea of a higher self relate to densities?
In terms of an entity perceiving through as linear time structure, the
higher self exists in sixth density and functions in the entities
"future". One interesting aspect of it is that the entity who is
perceiving the higher self manifestation is actually a thought form
materialized by the "higher self" itself. Entities in
these terms are actually a complex composed of what they perceive to
be "mind", "body", and "spirit". These complexes can occur within
single entities or groups, depending on the specific space/time
conditions. The higher self is that self which exists with full
understanding of the accumulation of experiences of that entity.
one point, the entity perceives a lower self and a higher self. They
are not actually there "simultaneously"; functions of the higher
self interact from a position in development which equates to the
linear "future" of the entity, as perceived by an entity in this
state. Obviously, cultural conditioning encourages
development of impotent states of mind where the "lower self"
is in control and the "higher self" is reached very little or totally ignored. There is no
synthesis that will permit the energy of the intelligent matrix to
How are the cultural states of mind organized? How do they fill the
needs of the Orion group and the Brotherhood?
Well, start with the prime factor of body identification. The society
promotes the concept of "you are your body", which results in fear,
especially fear of "death", which is tied in
with the idea of physical pain. Combine this with religious doctrine
and various cultural ideologies, and you have a very fertile ground
There is also promotion of identification with the
personality and ego. The ego is culturally conditioned to a
reactionary state which is encouraged by media and literature to
focus on the elements of security, sensation and power. Under these
individuals are basically disempowered and blind. In terms of
cultural activity, individuals are put in a position where they
spend most of their time dealing with "self preservation",
"self-gratification", and "self-definition".
These functions are basically
left hemisphere related.
The ego structure often becomes fragmented into "partial selves",
making the problem even worse. What is missing is the love of
truth, life, and the creator that we are
all a part of. The idea is to transform "self-preservation"
into right action, "self-gratification" into right feeling, and
"self-definition" into right thought. This is not probable in the
Orion based culture in which we reside if the missing
elements are not introduced.
What will help to introduce it is the
quickening of the vibrational resonance as we move into the
fourth density, and what we are seeing around us is the
desperation of the negative forces as they grapple for position and
control. The alien agendas are beyond secret government
manipulation, and at this time they are very worried. That
is why the mind control technology has been developed and
implemented - to make sure that they can try and preserve control
over the population.