EL: Andy, where are you from
originally and when did your training begin?
AP: I was born in Fallon, Nevada in November of 1969. My
father was a Lieutenant Commander at the Fallon Naval Air
Station in Nevada at the time. I believe my first experiences
began by the time I was two and a half years old. At five years
old my family lived in Munich, Germany and I remember attending
two distinct Kindergarten classes, on in German that was located
on or near McGraw Army Troop Army Base, and another Kindergarten
I have flashback memories of torture sessions as early as age
two where I was subjected to shock treatments with needles
inserted in my ears and genitalia. What they (the
controllers/handlers) do is use extreme trauma to separate the
mind from the body. They do this to split the mind into several
parts that can later be programmed to do things-like superhuman
feats. Basically, they disconnect all of the normal human brain
impulses, emotions and whatever is normally present, then
reprogram in new ones. They do this to remove all fear, so that
when they program in new abilities, you will not have the
instinctual, "but I can't, I'm afraid..." response. They program
you to do, not think. In essence, they treat and program your
mind as if it was a computer.
EL: Who are the people
running these secret programs like the Monarch and Montauk
Projects, and where do they conduct their activities?
AP: Our own government. One of my handlers-who tried to
brainwash me into believing that he was my father--was basically
a Nazi. I nicknamed him Adolph because he is very Aryan looking.
After WW2 many Nazi scientists were brought over to the US
through our own Intelligence community who formerly worked in
mind control research in the concentration camps. I believe they
are a remnant of the Nazi party working in conjunction with
different branches of the US government and the military.
Much of my training and torture sessions were done right at the
University of Rochester, NY. They used to take me to a private
room in the attic or top floor of the library. The big lab where
I had most of the programming done to me was at the Rome
National Air Base in Rome, NY. I have also been used in the
Montauk chair while at Camp Hero, Montauk, L.I. and also in a
chair in Atlanta, GA at Dobbins Air Force Base.
The Montauk facility located in Camp Hero, L.I. was reopened by
the Department of the Navy and is active to this day.
Basically there are underground bases located across the
country. Each one has a different function and specialty. There
is a facility in Rochester, NY, Paramus, NJ, Dobbins Air Force
Base in Atlanta, GA, Camp Hero in Montauk, L.I. and many others.
In the Paramus, NJ facility is where they do the sex programming
for many of the female agents. For the most part, 99% of them
are involuntary sex agents and couriers who were raised in
various mind control projects.
EL: What were some of the
things the mind control programmers made you do?
AP: I remember my mother enrolling me in a Silva Mind
Control course when I was ten. It is a type of self-hypnosis
where you learn to go to different levels of your mind to do
self-healing, relaxation, visualization, bending spoons with the
power of your mind, things like that. This is also the time when
I saw two peculiar military men, who would periodically visit me
throughout my childhood, especially sporting events. I did
exceptionally well at Silva Mind Control (and sports), so much
so that the two military men approached me and said, "I hear you
have some very special abilities. Someday you will work for us."
At the time I didn't understand, but later the two men figured
prominently in all the training I had up all the way through my
college years. Of course I didn't realize this until my memories
came back. I did very well at sports and demonstrated a genius
IQ, but I stuttered so badly until I was in my twenties, that
everyone just thought I was a dumb jock. The stuttering was due
to all the electroshock treatments.
I recall being subjected to electroshock numerous times, being
placed in an enclosed water tank and told to breathe underwater.
Consequently, I drowned several times and would revive because
of my self-created healing pool in my mind. I learned to create
my own mental laboratory through Silva Mind Control, replete
with a super powerful healing pool that could heal any injury. I
was forced to endure suffering beyond belief to accomplish
superhuman feats of strength and survival.
EL: Tell me more about the
various superhuman abilities you discovered you had.
AP: The trainers would put me into a trance whereby I'd
be told I could jump off a ladder of minimal height. In my mind,
I believed that I was only jumping off a footstool or a short
ledge. In actuality, I was progressively led to jump higher and
higher heights to the point of successfully jumping off
buildings and even out of planes without a parachute.
When under mind control, I could do whatever I was instructed to
do as long as I believed them. I would do 200 or more push ups
in perfect form, sometimes as long as a half hour straight, or
until I was told to stop. I weight lifted 545 lbs. on a barbell
and squats while attending college and much more (500-1500 lb.)
while I was under the mind control in the training laboratory
not far from Rochester, NY.
In my jumps, it was as if I was falling like a cat, calm and
cool with no fear, focusing like a laser only on the landing.
EL: Are there others like
yourself who have had similar training and experiences?
AP: I think there are thousands of other children and
people who are used and many end up missing. Many die in the
process. They are considered expendable. The ones who can
survive the most rigorous programming live on to become what are
known as the Montauk boys.
Duncan Cameron is such a person. In
general, the boys and young men are trained to be couriers,
assassins and super soldiers and even psychic killers. The women
are mostly used as sex agents. Cathy O' Brien's story is an
EL: What kinds of special
missions or time travel experiments do you remember taking part
AP: There were times I remember being at the small
Rochester airport, being picked up in an F-16 fighter plane and
ending up in some southwestern desert terrain either for special
military training and obstacle courses or assassination
missions. I remember seeing other men in black t-shirts and
pants on the same training course at one time. Other times I
found myself on some aircraft carrier out at sea. After the
mission they would take me back and I would return to college
after a couple of days or even hours not remembering what even
happened. All of these missions were done between the time I was
15 years old and until 1988-1992 under deep hypnotic programming
with the memories erased, until of some of my memories started
I was also taught to handle various types of guns, loading,
cleaning, special characteristics of each model and firing at
exact targets repeatedly and perfectly without thinking, just
EL: Tell me more about your
involvement in the Montauk Project.
AP: I was involved in an off shoot of the Montauk Project
called the Montauk chair. Basically the Montauk chair was
developed to give the human and spirit a zero point of reference
to facilitate time travel. What the chair essentially does is
separate the mind from the body. The chair operator's thoughts
and vibrational energy is picked up by umbrella looking antennas
above the chair, sent to a computer, over to a processor, then
amplified several hundred times. The information is sent to a
network of free energy crystals arranged in a circle. Then
whatever thoughts were amplified, i.e., a time period, a
wormhole would open up in the room. The wormhole was as large as
16-18 feet across and even large enough for a truck to go
In Camp Hero, Montauk, the location is the cross hairs of the
earth's biorhythms and is the point on earth where time travel
is most easily accomplished when earth is the point of origin.
My part of the Montauk chair project was to use my focused
visualization skills to think of specific time points in history
that were assigned to me. The chair is connected to a
sophisticated computer system and thought amplifier, such that
when a thought or time period is visualized, the computer
simulates a time portal based on that point in time. A series of
time portals are done until a library of time periods and
portals are accumulated.
The chair is also used to amplify extremely focused thoughts to
create three-dimensional materializations based on the operators
thoughts. Preston Nichols wrote several books on the Montauk
Project and describes an incident in which
created a monster while in the Montauk chair.
One such time travel mission was called Project Southern Cross.
It was used to win WW2 in favor of the allies. What the US
government did using time travel was to go back in time to the
1940's to help us win the war. We would deliver communication
devices, weapons and technologies made out of 1940's parts.
These would be delivered to the 1940's along with a complete set
of drawings on how to make them out of 1940's parts. I took part
in several of these deliveries, one time I was sent to Germany
and another time to England. I was not allowed to speak to
anyone, other than deliver my parcel and quickly return back to
our time. And this was all done under deep hypnotic programming,
so I didn't have a lot of freedom to explore. I was gone no
longer than two hours for the deliveries.
EL: Have you ever encountered
any extraterrestrials or seen any aliens in any of your
underground base memories?
AP: From what I understand the Department of the Navy
made an agreement with the alien Greys to exchange technologies
for human women and children to conduct horrific breeding
experiments. This is what is going on right now in an
underground base not far from Miami, Florida. One of my most
disturbing memories is being escorted down a hallway in this
underground lab and seeing cages of chickenwire fencing with
women and children screaming for help. I have seen Grey aliens
(the 4-foot tall ones with large black eyes) and also 7-foot
tall reptilian beings in some of my experiences. I have been
told that I have many children from alien breeding experiments.
I have had abductions with the Greys also.
On one occasion I was introduced to a
Reptilian being while in
an underground base sometime in 1989-90. At first I saw a 7-foot
tall human Ayran looking man. He walks towards me and I notice
that his image phases out as if something interfered with an
energy field. He does something to a device on his belt and
tells me, "OK, I'll show you." He then pushes some button and
then I see his image change into a 7-foot tall lizard like
creature who looked like he weighed over 400 lb.
I was introduced to a group of beings that claimed to be a sub
the Illuminati. They were made up of a group of about
40-50 men, all 6' 2" or taller, white, and of an indeterminate
older age, averaging 70, but I suspect much older considering
the technology they have access to. They convened in a boardroom
that I believe was in an underground base, perhaps Camp Hero,
Montauk. They sat around a large football shaped table made of
wood. Each high backed chair had a light at the tip and each
sitting had a TV type of screen and control panel that came out
from the table. There was a huge screen located in the front of
the room as well. I have reason to believe that not all of the
Illuminati are human, but in actuality are alien beings that
appear to look human.
EL: Who or what groups do you
think are running the show here in the US or even on Earth? How
do the aliens fit into all of this?
AP: It is very complicated, but basically there are four
main versions or groups of the New World Order, all with
slightly varying agendas. The first group comprises the US and
Western Europe (i.e., England, Germany, France and the US). The
second group is Eastern Europe fused with Western Europe and the
US. The third group is the countries of the Orient, and the
fourth is the Middle Eastern-Saudia Arabian elements and all the
There are also off world groups (aliens and future
human Nazi's types called Zardanians, Reptilians,
Dracos) who also have a hand in the NWO plans. For the time
being, the old money groups of Europe and England have teamed up
with die hard Nazi factions, Jews and Americans forming the
group that has always been known as the Illuminati and
affiliated secret societies. This large international group
controls the media, police force, military, etc. The Illuminati
is also part of
the NWO plan, which includes members such as
George Bush, Prince Charles and other high ranking people.
As for the aliens, I think most of the alien Greys are either
under the authority of, or in collaboration with, the
Reptilians, Dracos and the Illuminati, based on some of my
experiences and memories that are still returning to me. Some
Grey groups are in conflict with the Reptilian/Draco agenda and
are doing their own thing (human/grey hybridization programs) so
to speak. Their agenda gets into heavy spiritual matters having
to do with acquiring an emotional body and an ability to ascend
to higher dimensions. They are using humans to accomplish this
via the human/alien hybrids. Humans have the key in terms of
having a threefold essence or unity of being, physical,
emotional and spiritual. Other aliens have lost this unity of
being (because of the fall from grace), thus inhibiting them
from ascending to higher dimensions, or evolving to higher
levels. This gets back to the original Luciferic rebellion,
fallen angels and the various conflicts between species.
EL: When did you start
remembering your memories? How did or can you break the
programming they install?
AP: Some of my first memories surfaced while I was living
with a roommate in Atlanta, GA back in 1996. We went to the
bowling alley and I saw a large sign in the shape of a man
dressed like a Rhino advertising, "Bowl with Rhino balls." This
triggered me into remembering that "Rhino" is the name my Nazi
handlers called me. My roommate overheard me say out loud, "I'm
Rhino-they called me Rhino." He got excited and immediately
asked me, "Where did you hear that?" He had a grave look of
concern on his face and kept questioning me. By his reaction, I
realized later that all along he was one of my hired programmers
and handlers. The initial triggered memory that surfaced was a
flashback of me being electrocuted and shocked and screaming in
pain in one of my numerous torture sessions.
Then after that first memory, other memories started leaking
through. It was like my mind was dammed up and the subconscious
memories were starting to leak through. My mind controller
programmers deliberately built a wall around my memories so that
I wouldn't remember. When I started recalling bits and pieces,
I'd write notes to myself and hide them. Then I'd find my notes,
after I had forgotten everything because my roommate was
catching on that I was remembering. So he would repeatedly put
me in trances, erase my memories and I'd forget what I had just
remembered. But then everything came crashing down, because I
deliberately hid notes and pretended that I didn't know to my
roommate. I had thought he was a friend and it turned out he was
just hired to be another controller and handler to keep me in
I recall that in the past I did not even remember my dreams for
ten years. But now things are coming back. I am working on
purifying the body to help clear my mind and get my abilities
EL: How do they keep control
over all these people who have been and are still in mind
AP: The essence of their control tactics is of splitting
the mind at a young age. This entails a process of trauma,
torture, degradation and humiliation of the subject. The process
is different for each individual, but in essence they go to your
subconscious mind and find out what the most personal parts of
you are. Then they essentially use this against you to break you
down and rip your mind apart. What happens is this: An
individual who possesses special mental abilities is selected at
a very young age. (Very often they are from military families or
from multigenerational Satanic ritual abuse families-EL) Then
they are subjected to various stages of terror and horror to
begin to separate them from their own minds. It is a process of
progressive dissociation and compartmentalization of the mind
They control your mind through various complicated hypnosis
techniques and commands until they create the perfect Manchurian
The Greenbaum Speech by D.C. Hammond) They
program you to do something, then erase the memory. Basically
they program your mind as if it were a computer. Once they
install the magic word, all they have to do is say it and you're
under their control. This happens from an early age so it is
easier to control them if they are conditioned and dissociated
into several personalities.
Another method of control is that they send in special people in
your lives, handlers and controllers who pose as friends,
teachers, "deprogrammers", roommates, lovers, etc. who are
actually operatives for the mind control projects. Some are
sleeper operatives who don't even know they are being used to a
certain extent. It makes it hard to trust anyone at this point.
EL: Is there anything else
you can say about these projects or advice to others who have
gone through similar experiences, like how they can be set free
from its influence?
AP: For those who want to get out of the influence of the
programs of mind control, you must have a strong fighting
instinct to do what is right regardless of what others are
doing. Your only cage is the one you build for yourself. You
must connect with your highest self to break the evil that is
all around us, and not succumb to doing evil just because
everyone else is doing it. Retain your fundamental sense of
right and wrong.
It all goes back to the basic conflict of basic good and evil.
It is like the dark forces in power of the planet at this time
are trying to cheat their way into heaven or higher dimensions.