by Laura Knight-Jadczyk

from Cassiopaea Website


- Part I


The following excerpts are a more or less chronological presentation of the many instances in which we have discussed concepts relating to hyperdimensionality with the Cassiopaeans. On many occasions, they have "led" us in these directions with some obvious intent. I wish to apologize in advance for the fact that, very often, the discussion breaks off at precisely the point when it gets really interesting.


This is due to the fact that the Cassiopaeans will not give us any information that would be "dangerous to know." Those who are familiar with the subjects, can fill in their own conclusions as we have.


There are many strange "connections" in this series, and many more I have had to omit for the sake of brevity. These relations only serve to highlight the homogeneity of certain phenomena down through the millennia which point, inevitably, to the idea that SOMEONE on this planet has been time traveling for a very long "time."


The evidence I have been collecting from historical sources will be presented on an ongoing basis in the "Grail Quest" series which is presently under construction.


Q: (T) Who created the structures on the moon that Richard Hoagland has discovered?
A: Atlanteans.

Q: (T) What did they use these structures for?
A: Energy transfer points for crystalline power/symbolism as in monuments or statuary.

Q: (T) What statuary are you referring to?
A: Example is face.

Q: (T) What power did these crystals gather?
A: Sun.

Q: (T) Was it necessary for them to have power gathering stations on Mars and the Moon. Did this increase their power?
A: Not necessary but it is not necessary for you to have a million dollars either. Get the correlation? Atlanteans were power hungry the way your society is money hungry.

Q: (T) Was the accumulation of this power what brought about their downfall?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Did they lose control of this power?
A: It overpowered them the same way your computers will overpower you.

Q: (L) Who built the great pyramid?
A: Atlanteans.

Q: (L) What year was it built?
A: 10643 years ago.

Q: (L) Why was it built? What purpose was it used for?
A: Capture cosmic energy.

Q: (L) And what was this cosmic energy used for once it was captured?
A: Many things. Power, transport, healing, mind control, climate, etcetera.

Q: (L) Who built the sphinx?
A: Same.

Q: (L) Was the sphinx built at the same time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why was the sphinx built? What was its purpose?
A: Temple.

Q: (L) Are there records buried under the sphinx?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the story of Noahís flood the story of the breaking up of Atlantis?
A: Yes. But symbolic.

Q: (L) How many people were on the planet at that time?
A: 6 billion.

Q: (L) Out of this six billion people, how many survived?
A: 119 million.

Q: (L) Was Noahís flood caused by the close passage of another celestial body?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Which body was that?
A: Martek.

Q: (L) Do we know this body in our solar system now?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What name?
A: Mars.

Q: (L) Was Martek an inhabited planet at that time?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did it have water or other features?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) When it passed close to the earth did it, in fact, overload our planet with water we did not have prior to that time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did we, prior to that time, have a water-vapor canopy surrounding our planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What event transpired to kill off most of the dinosaurs?
A: Comet impact.

Q: (L) Did a comet actually strike the earth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was it a large comet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How large?
A: No one was large enough for event. 14 hit at that occasion.

Q: (L) How large was the largest one that impacted at that time?
A: 18 miles diameter.

Q: (L) Did it happen before the flood of Noah?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many thousands of years ago counting backward?
A: 27 million years ago.

Q: (L) Now, the general scientific opinion is that the major dying of dinosaurs occurred 65 million years ago. You have given us the figure 27 million years ago. Can you explain the discrepancy?
A: Radio carbon dating is not exact science.

Q: (A) By your figures, Carbon dating is incorrect by a factor of at least two prior to 10,000 years as L has suggested? We observe, on a number of occasions, a factor of 2 variation in the scientific dating versus your dating. This is a repeating phenomenon on nearly all dates you have given.
A: "They" fail to take into effect the influence of magnetic aberrations caused by ancient cataclysms.

Q: (L) How can these magnetic aberrations affect radiocarbon dating?
A: By altering the isotopal imprints of matter.

Q: So, the cataclysm of about 1500 B.C....
A: All of them scramble the radiological data because of magnetic surges.

Q: (L) Was Velikovsky correct when he said Venus was on a 52 year orbit during a certain period in our history?
A: Close.

Q: (L) How many passes did Venus make through the solar system before it was precipitated into a regular planetary orbit?
A: 7

Q: (L) Where did Venus originally come from?
A: 19 light years away.

Q: (L) So, it is actually an extra-solar system visitor?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it true that at regular intervals the sun radiates massive amounts of electromagnetic energy which then causes the planets of the solar system to interact with one another to a greater or lesser extent, even to the extent of disturbing their orbits?
A: Other irregular pulsations determined by external vibrational events.

Q: (L) The sun is not the source of the periodicity of "dyings", is that correct?
A: Sometimes. Many causes.

Q: (L) Well what is the cause that recurs like clockwork? Is there some cause that is a regular pulsation?
A: Cometary showers.

Q: (L) Where are these cometary showers from?
A: Clusters in own orbit.

Q: (L) What is the periodicity or cycle to this comet business?
A: 3600 years roughly.

Q: (L) Where is the orbit of these clusters? Is it the Oort cloud?
Q: (L) Does this cluster of comets orbit around the sun?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this cluster of comets the remains of a planet?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is the cluster of fragments in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter the remains of a planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was that planet known as?
A: Kantek.

Q: (L) When did that planet break apart into the asteroid belt.
A: 79 thousand years ago approximately.

Q: (L) What body were the Sumerians talking about when they described the Planet of the crossing or Nibiru? This body of comets?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who were the Anunnaki?
A: Aliens.

Q: (L) Where were they from?
A: Zeta Reticuli.

Q: (L) Do they come here every time the comet cluster is approaching to sap the souls energy created by the fear, chaos and so forth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) The two events are loosely interrelated?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is that why they are here now?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is there a large fleet of space-ships riding a wave, so to speak, approaching our planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where are these ships from?
A: Zeta Reticuli.

Q: (L) When will they arrive?
A: 1 month to 18 years.

Q: (L) How can there be such a vast discrepancy in the time?
A: This is such a huge fleet that space/time warping is irregular and difficult to determine as you measure time. Mass affects electromagnetic transfer within gravity wave. Mass affects time cycle: small equal short cycle; large or dense equals long cycle. It is a large fleet.

Q: (L) How many planets are in our solar system?
A: 12

Q: (L) Could you tell us the names of all the planets, their distances from the sun, the chemical composition, and the diameter.

  • Mercury=Opatanar, 36 million miles from Sun; 3000 mi diameter.

  • Venus=Pemuntar, 67 million miles from Sun; 7,500 mi. diameter.

  • Earth=Saras, 93 million miles from Sun; 7,900 mi. dia.

  • Mars=Masar, 141,500,000 miles from Sun; 4,200 mi. dia.

  • Jupiter=Yontar, 483,400,000 miles from Sun; 88,700 dia.

  • Saturn=Zendar, 886,700,000 miles from Sun; 74,500 dia.

  • Uranus=Lonoponor, 1,782,700,000 miles from Sun; 31,566 diameter.

  • Neptune=Jinoar, 2,794,300,000 miles from Sun; 30,199 dia.

  • Pluto=Opikimanaras, 3,666,100,000 miles from Sun; 1,864 dia.

  • NI=Montonanas, 570,000,000,000 miles from Sun; solid matter; 7000 miles dia.

  • NII=Suvurutarcar, 830,000,000,000 miles from Sun; 18000 miles diameter; hydrogen, ammonia.

  • NIII=Bikalamanar, 1,600,000,000,000 miles from Sun; 46000 miles diameter; hydrogen, ammonia.

Q: (L) Is Martek an ancient human name for Mars or is it an Alien designation?
A: Combination of both as were many things at various levels of the development of your history.

Q: (L) The remark was made that the planet earth, prior to its interaction with Martek, had a water vapor canopy. How was this water vapor canopy suspended?
A: The water vapor canopy was a natural element of the particular composition of your atmosphere at that particular measure point in space/time.

Q: (L) Was the gravity level the same as what it is now?
A: It was somewhat different. But not perceptible to you. That difference is part of the explanation of why that vapor canopy remained suspended.

Q: (L) Did that condition prior to the flood of Noah, the altered gravitational state as well as the water vapor canopy, was that condition more conducive to extended life spans than the conditions that exist on the planet now?
A: Not only those things but all the other conditions that existed on the planet at that particular point in space/time were more conducive to longer life spans. And, by the way, Noah is a symbolic message rather than an historical event.

Q: (L) Do you mean a historical event in the terms of Noah being in an ark or historical event in terms of the flood?
A: First of all, there was no Noah. Secondly there was no actual real flood as depicted in that story. Thirdly, the whole story was a symbolic message as opposed to an actual event.

Q: (L) What did actually occur and what does the symbolism have to tell us?
A: It is a very broad representation. It simply means that there was a cataclysmic event that did envelop the whole planet at that time and that those that were ready to experience that as part of their soul development without exiting the body, were warned ahead of time. But not by trying to manipulate events, but by simply allowing faith to let them acquire knowledge and being naturally drawn into position to experience what they needed to experience to survive the event.

Q: (L) At that time was Martek drawn close to the earth and did it have water on its surface which the earth then robbed or borrowed?
A: That is very close to being the case. It is far more complicated than that so we will leave that at this time.

Q: (L) How many years ago did the flood of Noah occur?
A: 12,656.

Q: (L) What land did this symbolic Noah live in, what continent?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) Where did the majority of the symbolic íNoahsí go to after the receding of the waters?
A: Egypt. Americas. Reference: Inca. Aztec. Maya. Hopi Tribe. Pima tribe.

Q: (L) What caused Martek to pass close to the earth at that time since that was many thousands of years before the Venus interaction?
A: Planetary alignment gravitational aberration related to Venus.

Q: (L) So, there was a planetary line-up that caused Mars to be pulled out of its orbit?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the event a hundred or so years after the flood of Noah that was described as the confusing of languages, or the tower of Babel?
A: Spiritual confluence. Electromagnetic concentration of all gravity waves.

Q: (L) And what did they intend to do with these concentrated waves?
A: Mind alteration of masses. HAARP assembly was a continuation of the Montauk project which is an effort to resurrect Antlantean crystal principle.

Q: (L) Do they plan to actually attempt to bring up the Atlantean crystals?
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they plan to use this for mind control?
A: And other uses.

Q: (L) What intention did they have in altering the mind of the masses?
Q: (L) What is the true meaning, the original meaning, of the Hebrew word "shem"?
A: Purity.

Q: (L) Why was this word related to the obelisks or standing stones later called "shems" by the Hebrews?
A: Symbolic of purity: unification. Uniformity.

Q: (L) Did these stones themselves actually possess any power?
A: Residual.

Q: (L) What object were the ancients going to place in the tower of Babel to...
A: Crystal.

Q: (L) Is "shem" also synonymous with "crystal"?
A: Close.

Q: (L) How were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed and the other cities of the plain? And by whom?
A: Nuclear; EM pulse. Who else?

Q: (L) The STS Orion gang?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why?
A: To implant fear and obedience.

Q: (L) Werenít the Sodom and Gomorrans really evil and bad doing sodomy and Gomorrahy?
A: That is a deception of history.

Q: (L) Who were the original inhabitants of the city of Jericho?
A: Aramaic.

Q: (L) There was a stone tower at one of the lower levels, what was it built for?
A: Energy disbursement. Attempt to duplicate tower of Babel and Atlantean crystal towers.

Q: (T) Are the crystals still active?
A: Bermuda triangle.

Q: (L) And what does that crystal do? Is it continuously active?
A: No. Erratic.

Q: (L) What activates it? And when it is activated, what does it do?
A: Many factors. Transdimensional window is blasted open.

Q: (L) Say a person was sailing along in the Bermuda Triangle and the window was blasted open and these people passed through or were engulfed in it or whatever, in what condition would they find themselves?
A: Something akin to suspended animation.

Q: (L) Would they be conscious of their state of suspended animation or would their consciousness also be suspended?
A: Either or.

Q: (L) Do they stay in this state forever, or do they come back out, or do they come out somewhere else?
A: Open. All are possible. Same thing happened to Philadelphia experiment participants.

Q: (L) If an individual were in this interdimensional state of suspended animation, does this mean they are stuck there forever?
A: Maybe. To them they may perceive something like waiting for millions of years.

Q: (L) Is there no one or no way to rescue them from this state?
A: Why do you think those sailors were hopelessly insane?

Q: (L) Besides the crystal in the Bermuda Triangle, are any of the others still active?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where are the others located?
A: Off Japan; in Brazil; in Ural mountains of Russia; North and South Poles.

Q: (T) Are the ones on the Moon and Mars active also?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What were the physical dimensions of these crystals and were they cut or naturally grown?
A: Varied in size; were synthetic.

Q: (L) Were they faceted?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) In their faceting, what was the general configuration?
A: Pyramid.

Q: (L) Was that a pyramid with the same proportions as say, the Great Pyramid at Giza?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Where is the Bermuda Triangle crystal located?
A: 380 miles due East of you.

Q: (L) Some years ago a pilot reported seeing a pyramid near there in the water...
A: That is just the top sticking out of the ocean floor. It is 90 per cent buried.

Q: (L) How come this crystal didnít shatter or break up during the subsidence of Atlantis?
A: Extraordinarily strong. An atomic bomb would not shatter it. The chain reaction of a thermonuclear explosion would be absorbed into the crystal and transferred into pure energy. That relates to the design function.

Q: (L) And then what would happen?
A: Energy dispersal unless focused as engineered by the Atlanteans.

Q: (L) What kind of power frequency did these crystals use?
A: Full range.


Q: (J) When higher density forces of dark and light are fighting, is it any way at all possible for us to detect the battle?
A: First: We donít "fight." Second, yes; itís nature as in meteorology and earth changes.

Q: (T) Your form of confrontation takes the form of physical changes in the atmosphere and environment of the planet?
A: And in space.

Q: (T) But that is how we detect it? The more activity, the more conflict is going on?
A: Remember, we are the light. They are the dark. We are both high level thought forms reflected at all levels of reality.

Q: (T) So, what we perceive, then, is what comes through to third density which is not what we would perceive if we were looking at it from 4th or 5th or 6th. It manifests in all densities, but in different ways?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Does this have anything to do with what Hoagland is referring to when he talks about the tetrahedral form he has detected from the Martian structures he has been studying?
A: Yes. This is a bridge to 4th density.

Q: (L) What are Marsí moons?
A: Disguised bases.

Q: (L) Who built them?
A: Who else? The Lizzies.

Q: (L) The film I saw at Aís house, the Mars landing, was that an actual film of a Mars landing?
A: False.

Q: (L) Has there been a human landing on Mars by the United States as is claimed by various sources?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did AB work on the Philadelphia project as he claims?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was he brainwashed to have fake outrageous memories?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is he lying deliberately?
A: Instructed by government for disinformation dissemination.



Q: (L) We talked at one point, I believe, of the tetrahedral structures of the various planets and our perceptions of the planets in our solar system, and these matrices being almost like a doorway to another density, and that if we were in the proper dimensional mode that we would see the other planets of our own solar system quite differently from how we see them in our third density mode, and that we would, in fact, be able to look upon Venus, which manifests in 3rd density as a pretty hellish place, with temperatures 900 degrees or thereabouts, and we would find it to be something else altogether with beings inhabiting it, is this correct.
A: Yes. Beings live absolutely everywhere in one realm or another.

Q: (L) Are the beings who live on the planet Venus aware of us on the planet Earth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there beings also living on Mars?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they aware of us?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the beings on all the other planets in our solar system aware of us here, on planet Earth?
A: Yes, because they are all of higher density.

Q: (T) Are they interacting with us?
A: Okay, stop, whoa! A review session follows: Who is 1st density?

Q: (L) Rocks and minerals, right?
A: And?

Q: (L) Plants?
A: Yes. Now, what awareness do you suppose they have of you?

Q: (T) When we ask why higher beings have awareness of us but we are not aware of them, we need to ask what awareness beings lower than us have of us.

(J) Obviously no more than we have of 4th density.

(T) But when you play music to a plant, it has some awareness because it makes it grow better.

(L) But music is not a being.

(T) Itís an energy wave.

(J) Wait a minute... what they are saying is: they have no more awareness of us than we, as 3rd density beings, have of 4th density beings.

(T) Does this mean that they interact with us the way we interact with plants?
A: Who is "on" 2nd level.

Q: (L) Animals.

(T) Insects, lower life forms.
A: Now, think carefully, what level of awareness, and more importantly, understanding, do they have of you?

Q: (L) Well, I guess they are aware of us in some way, but they donít understand us...

(F) But their understanding is entirely different from our understanding of them. In other words, they see these big hulking beings, but they donít know whatís going on.

(L) Was Ouspenskyís explanation of how animals perceive humans very close to the truth?
A: Close. Now, what about 1st level understanding and perception of 2nd level?

Q: (L) Okay, 1st density, minerals and plants... now rocks and minerals combine with plants through growing actions, water dissolution, erosion, and so on, they have a real limited existence. And what happens is that mostly animals come along and eat them.

(F) Bees pollinate flowers.

(L) Different kinds of animals live in trees.

(T) Some animals live in the ground and in caves.

(T) So, rocks and minerals and plants have a really limited understanding of the animals above them which interact with them in various ways.
A: Yes, and you have a limited understanding of the densities above you.

Q: (L) Well, that is still begging the question, my question was...
A: Laura, unblock, do rocks and plants "see" you?

Q: (J) Probably not.

(D) We donít really know.

(T) We see the 3rd density manifestations of 1st density objects. We donít see the 1st density perception of itself. So, how do we see the 4th density manifestations, they see us on a 4th density level... not necessarily as we perceive ourselves.

(V) So, I am curious... what do rocks look like to each other?
A: They sense each other.

Q: (L) What example of our sensory apparatus would be close to an example of what a rock senses when it is aware of another rock?
A: That is a cross conceptualization and will not work.

Q: (L) So there is no way we can interpret what a rock senses. Well, another 1st density example is plants. We know that plants can react positively to certain persons and negatively to others. They have experimented with hooking them up to polygraph machines and measured these responses.

(J) They also react to music...

(T) Third density reactions...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) If plants interact with each other, do they feel, say, fondness for one another?
A: Something akin to that.

Q: (L) Does it hurt a plant when we eat it?
A: Does it hurt you when a "Lizzie" eats you?

Q: (T) Yes, you see, on 4th density... we are on 3rd density and we eat 1st and 2nd density, the 4th density eats us.

(D) If we hurt plants by eating them like the Lizzies hurt us when they eat us, how are we to survive without eating?
A: When you no longer crave physicality, you no longer need to "eat."

Q: (L) So part of the "fall" into the physical existence and part of the Edenic story of the whole business, "you shall eat by the sweat of your brow," has to do with being physical and needing to eat?
A: Lucifer, "The fallen Angel." This is you.

Q: (L) So, "falling" means going into physical existence wherein you must feed on other life, other beings, is that it?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) So when a plant absorbs nutrients....

(L) Well, a plant is the same density as minerals, so it is almost like...

(T) Like two separate entities becoming one?

(V) Like Jeffrey Dahmer... [laughter]

(L) My bologne has a first name...

(LM) Minerals dissolve in water and are then absorbed by the plant, what pain could there be in this?
A: Subjective, L__.

Q: (L) Maybe the dissolution of, say, phosphate in water, is a "death" to it...
A: Close. You limit when you perceive on 3rd level only and think that your perception is all there is.

Q: (L) So, in other words, we should be able to perceive on 1st and 2nd as well as 3rd while working on 4th level understanding?
A: No. Work on 4th, 5th and 6th.

Q: (L) Is it not also beneficial to understand the 1st and 2nd density levels as well, just simply for the exercise in understanding that which is below us?
A: Strive always to rise.

Q: (V) Havenít we already done our 1st and 2nd level work as evolving souls?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Who eats the Lizzies on the 4th level?
A: No one. 4th is the last density for full manifestation of STS.

Q: (T) So, beings on the 5th and 6th level exist in pure energy?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) The 4th level is the last for full STS. Does that mean that the 5th level, which you have described as the "contemplative" level... what is the state of existence of a STS being on the 5th level?
A: Souls of 1,2,3, and 4 go to 5th.

Q: (T) So 5th level is where they go to while waiting to go back to one of the 4 for their next incarnation?
A: Exactly.

Q: (T) That is why itís called the contemplation level. You go and think about what you have done.

(T) What about souls on 6th density?

(L) Are there 6th density STS beings?
A: No, when you get to 6th you no longer need to recycle.

Q: (L) But still, is there an STS experience at 6th density, like the 6th density Orions?
A: These are only reflections of individuals, not unified entities. These reflections exist for balance. They are not whole entities, just thought forms.

Q: (L) Are these 6th density beings what the Bible describes as a "gathering" of angels as in the story of Job where "Lucifer" came in before the Lord...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, there are STS and STO at 6th density which balance? And they are just there, they exist?
A: Reflection for balance.

Q: (L) Is there any kind of hierarchy to this thing? Do these beings come before some kind of "Grand Council" and make plans and discuss things, and make decisions and implement them?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, how do things happen? Do things just sort of happen as a natural interaction of things and energies?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) If we are on the 3rd density and you are working with us and we are striving to make 4th density, at the same time are you, at 6th density, striving to reach 7th?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is helping us, helping you to reach 7th density?

(V) Are there others at higher densities working with you as you are working with us?
A: No, we all reach 7th level together.

Q: (L) So, in other words, you guys are trying to bring us up and everybody else is coming up, and when all the pieces are back together, we then go to 7th, is that it?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) So that is your purpose in helping us?
A: Itís a natural process.

Q: (T) Will our function be, when we are at 6th density, to help others on 3rd, as you are doing?
A: Yes. We are you in the future.

Q: (L) Okay, what criteria constitutes the means of this ultimate translation into 7th density?
A: The lessons completed.

Q: (T) When all the souls transition to 7th density, will all the souls be integrated into one soul?
A: Close.

Q: (T) So that is why we have to get everybody, because we all become one on 7th density?
A: Donít have to "do" anything: has, will, is!!!


Q: (L) Okay, you said at that time that a Transdimensional Atomic Remolecularizer was buried at Oak Island. Is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who buried it there?

A: Learn. You already have tools. We are trying to teach you to use your most precious commodity.

Q: (L) And that is, of course, our minds?
A: You betcha!

Q: (L) What I read about Oak Island was that there were legends of lights being seen there prior to 1703.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Prior to 1703 would put the burial of whatever is there at least prior to that time, correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Were those lights the lights of craft of other beings other than the natives of this planet?
A: Electromagnetic profile.

Q: (L) What was noticed when the kids arrived on the Island was that a limb was sawed off of a tree over the depression and there were marks of the rope and pullys had been utilized.

(T) If something more advanced dug the pit, they wouldnít have used chain hoists and pullys.

(L) That is what I am getting at. So, if there was evidence of this kind of stuff on the tree, it would seem to indicate that somebody had been doing something there who was a little more human or limited in their technology, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, my thought is that, it is beyond human technology to have produced that pit at that point in history?
A: Beyond known technology.

Q: (L) And yet humans may have been involved in that activity?
A: Bingo. Some humans have always communed with "higher" powers. We are speaking of conscious communion in this and other and instances.

Q: (L) When was the pit dug?
A: 1500s. Nationality is not issue. Access sect information. Now, who claimed communion, Laura has in memory banks from absorption of mass reading practice.

Q: (F) Was there a sect from that era that claimed communion?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) I think that this may have had something to do with the people that later became known as the Cajuns, a French religious sect that was living there... They called it Arcadia.
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Now, this article says that it would have taken a hundred men working every day for six months to have built this pit...
A: No.

Q: (L) The article also says that it must have been dug in 1780...
A: No.

Q: (L) When at one point they drilled into the pit, some bits of gold came up and a piece of parchment and maybe some other odds and ends. What were these?
A: Alchemy is your clue.

Q: (T) The remolecularizer made it.

(L) Why not? If these people were involved in doing this, why did they do it?
A: Instructed to do it.

Q: (L) They were instructed by the higher powers they were in contact with, correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What did they intend to do with it once it was there? Did someone intend to come back for it at some point in time?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is it buried there in that location for a specific reason?
A: Sure.

Q: (T) Does the location itself have something to do with the purpose of it?
A: Magnetic.

Q: (T) Are there other ones buried on the planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are they aligned to each other on the planet in some kind of geometric pattern?
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) Do they all work together?
A: Maybe.

Q: (J) Can you tell us where some of the other ones are?
A: Use mind, that is what it is there for.

Q: (T) We are using our minds. And, we are talking to you about this. We are friendly.
A: Shortcut city. Itís not nice to fool Mother Cassiopaea!

Q: [Laughter] (T) Mirth! If we were to follow the coordinates where this thing is buried, would it lead us to others?
A: Try it and see. When L__ said he wanted to hunt for buried treasure, do you think he had this in mind? All the clues are there for you to find if you do your homework!

Q: (L) Okay. I want to get back to the function of this thing. You suggest it is buried not to be dug up. It is actually buried to stay there? Is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Then that explains a lot of things about the way it was buried. It is claimed that there was found, at a certain level, a rock with carving on it. It was destroyed through carelessness. I am curious as to what this said.
A: Measure marker.

Q: (J) Could it be possible that this device was somehow related to the crystal pyramid principle of Atlantis?
A: In a small sense.

Q: (L) Is this device continuously operational?
A: No.

Q: (L) What stimulates it to go into operation? That is, assuming it does.
A: Magnetic anomalies.

Q: (J) Is it affected by earthquakes?
A: Can be.

Q: (L) Are these magnetic anomalies ones that occur naturally on the planet?
A: Both.

Q: (L) So, they can occur naturally on the planet or they can be generated or stimulated by some other source?
A: Yes.

Q: (J) Is this device a doorway for entry into this dimension?
A: Can be used as such.

Q: (T) Is it a stand-alone machine or is it to be used in conjunction with others?

A: Either.



Q: (L) Next question: In reading about crop circles; I know that we have been told that they come from sixth density, but I would like to know the exact mode or mechanism by which they are made. Is it like electromagnetic imprinting, is it like a whirlwind. Can you tell us a little bit about how they are actually physically created?
A: Field transfer.

Q: (L) What kind of field?
A: Magnetic.

Q: (L) Are they transferred directly from sixth density to third density?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they manifested by an object that has come into third density, such as a craft of some sort?
A: No.

Q: (L) Can you give us a clue here?
A: We can give "clue." See Hoagland.

Q: (L) What does Hoagland say?

(T) He says that basically what we see in this density is a 3rd dimension reflection of 4th dimension and that it can be seen mathematically by looking at the cloud patterns on the different planets. If there was not another dimension above us, circular would be circular and the circular motion of the clouds would be maintained, but if it is a transfer from fourth density to third density, when you are looking at a fourth density object, what the third density version of it would look like would show a hexagonal figure with angles to it, and that the photographs from the Voyager Probe that show that the cloud patterns from the North and South poles of most of the planets are not circular, they are hexagonal. Something like that, anyway.

(L) Okay, in sixth density, what are crop circles?
A: Thoughts.

Q: (L) Who is thinking these thoughts?
A: Yours truly.

Q: (L) Okay, if they are thoughts...

(J) They are messages so they could be thoughts before they are messages.

(T) Well, they have described sixth density as pure energy, therefore there is nothing physical in sixth density to reflect back through the densities. So the only thing that can come from there to here is thought. Because, that is all there is there.

(L) So, it is a field transfer of thought.

(T) So, when sixth density thinks and they pass that down, most likely skipping fifth density to fourth density, and then stepping down from fourth to third, we end up with a three dimensional crop circle. But what does a crop circle look like in fourth density?
A: "Look" is not point. You need visual stimuli in order to remember. Yours is a physical dependent existence. Your media resists, why? Suggest discussion.

Q: (L) The media resists crop circles and I know this is so because when I went to the Library to research them, there was not a single, solitary book, magazine or article on the subject of crop circles in the entire county system.

(J) There wasnít anything in Barnes and Noble either.

(L) Now, the two books on the subject I do have, I had to order special. Why would the media resist crop circles?

(S) The same reason they resist everything else.

(F) But, they donít resist everything else as much as crop circles.

(L) Here is something I got of the net recently. [reads]

"To some people, the circles which began appearing about a decade ago represent the handiwork of extraterrestrial invaders or crafty tradesmen bent on mischief after an evening at the pub, or even hordes of graduate students driven by mad professors. To others, the circles suggest the action of microwave generated ball lightening, numerous whirlwinds or some other peculiar atmospheric phenomena. These scenarios apparently suffered a severe blow late last summer when two elderly landscape painters, David and Doug admitted to creating many of the giant, circular wheatfield patterns that cropped up over the last decade in southern England.


The chuckling hoaxers proudly displayed the wooden planks, ball of string, and primitive sighting device they claimed they had used to construct the circles. But this newspaper orchestrated, widely publicized admission didnít settle the whole mystery. Gerald Hawkins, a retired astronomer who now divides his time between an apartment in Washington and a farm in Woodville, felt compelled to write last September to Dave and Doug, asking how they managed to discover and incorporate a number of ingenious, previously unknown, geometric theorems of a type that appear in antique textbooks, into their "artwork" in the crops. He concluded his letter as follows:

"The media did not give you credit for the unusual cleverness behind the designs and the patterns."

And then he says that he is finding ratios of small whole numbers that precisely match the ratios defining diatomic scale. These ratios produce the eight tones of an octave in the musical scale corresponding to the keys on the piano."

That was surprise number one, he said. He began looking for geometrical relationships among the circles, rings and lines and then he found that measurements reveal that the ratio of the diameter of the large circles is drawn so that it passes through the centers of the three original circles to the diameter of one of the original circles, and is close to 4 to 3. What he discovered were geometric relationships which simply are not taught anymore in the modern math. And yet, essentially he says that these guys that came forward and claimed that they did it could not possibly have done it.

(F) Well, the thing that is so strange to me is that since 1992 there hasnít been any reporting in the American media about this phenomenon at all.

(L to TF) Is there any way you could check that? [Tom is a reporter with a major newspaper.]

(TF) I already have.

(L) You have? What have you found?

(TF) Thereís a lot.

(L) What is it and what does it say? When?

(TF) I didnít notice the dates. I didnít notice if there was any turned out after 1992...

(F) Thereís not...

(TF) I liked my photo so much I had someone check it out. One of the librarians. Some things you call up you get material that is that thick... this is only this thick. [Indicates file thickness large to small] But I donít know what years any of it is.

(F) Well, it is not after 1992, I can assure you because I have been keeping very close track.

(TF) I know it hasnít been in the news. I donít remember seeing anything in the news for several years.

(F) It hasnít been here, but it has been in Britain.

(TF) Right!

(F) It is very strange when we are hooked up to the cable news channels that there has been a television black-out on it here. The other thing is Linda Howe showed the new ones from 1994 and they are more spectacular than any that have appeared. Now, if these artists are still going around doing this...

(L) Well, I hate to get paranoid, but, do you suppose this Dave and Doug were set up to make this claim so that the media would have an answer they could tout and then just drop the whole thing? If so, why?

(F) Because itís too frightening. I remember in 1991 and 1992 this thing was heating up and heating up.

(TF) Thatís true.

(F) It was unusual because this type of subject matter is usually not attended by the mainstream media to any great extent. When there is a big UFO wave there might be a little blurb about strange lights reported by various people. This subject was actually focused upon by all of the major networks, it was on all of the major wire services, it was everywhere. All of a sudden, these two drunken artists appeared and they all said: "Oh! Thatís it! Okay, forget about it." That was so strange because my impression of journalists has always been, at least it used to be, that they want to dig up the truth, and here, mere placebo, surface type explanations that donít explain anything and which are not adequate, suddenly caused them to lose interest. It would be like Watergate: "Oh, the 18 minute gap... well, Mary whatís-her-name stepped on the pedal. Oh, okay, no problem!"Obviously that didnít happen! This just didnít make logical sense for those of us who had looked at the crop circles, and even people who donít follow this type of subject matter closely, who I have talked to, people who brush off the subject of UFOs, have told me that this explanation just doesnít add up! These two guys did all of this under the noses of thousands of researchers who were trying like the dickens to see anything that happened in the middle of the night - in the middle of this, a simple, ridiculous if you get right down to it, explanation is offered and the whole subject is brushed off?!

(J) And, the explanation would only work if the crop circles were within their physical reach logistically speaking.

(F) Well, not only that, if you have ever calculated what is involved, they started in 1973 with just a handful throughout the summer and by 1992 it was hundreds all over the planet. These guys would have to be working non-stop, 24 hours a day, flying all around the globe... [laughter] ...and I thought, how can they accept this brush-off explanation? The other thing is, you would expect, obviously if that were the true explanation, as crazy as it seems, if they could actually, physically do this all by themselves, which is physically and mathematically impossible, but never mind that; it has happened since then. If these two guys are pulling a hoax and nobody is going to pay any more attention, why would they bother to continue to do it each and every summer since that time. Wouldnít somebody catch them by now? There are just a hundred arguments against this explanation that come to mind. Yet, in this country it is completely ignored. My own theory is that it is too sensitive an issue. Here is something that can be photographed.

(L) It proves that there is somebody else out there.

(F) It doesnít prove it...

(J) thereís something else going on...

(F) I donít think it proves it, but it makes it very hard to ignore. As I have stated before, my father was a physicist and he was also a skeptic. A very brilliant man... when we would see on television... I remember one night in particular, we saw a very comprehensive segment on crop circles, and he actually got angry when I pointed out to him that this phenomenon seemed awfully bizarre, awfully intense, widespread and so on. He tried to brush it off: "Oh, I think it is a fad," were the words he used. This is a scientist!

(L) He dove headfirst into the deepest river in the world! Denial.

(F) Like a whirlwind is going to form a pattern like an intricate geometric figure? Come on! Sure! He grasped that whirlwind theory and when I pointed out to him that this was not logical, he got angry which I perceived as fear. Being very defensive because it stabbed into the heart of his whole lifeís work.

(L) That right there is the answer, culturally speaking.

(F) Exactly!

(L) It stabs into the heart of materialism.

(F) In this country somebody does not want this to be reported on because you canít brush it off. You can brush off UFOs... well, not if you really study the issue, but if you donít pay too much attention to it you can brush it off...

(J) Because there is no physical evidence. You have evidence with crop circles. They are there. You can see them.

(L) And, they are astonishing! Just to look at them is astonishing!

(F) Any of them, really, except for the very simplest ones, I mean, just using pure, simple logic, who would have the time, the energy, the expertise to do these things...

(J) And to do it in the dark, without any light...

(F) And in just short periods of time! It just doesnít make sense. Just imagine, Mr. F, it is your assignment to go out into the wheat fields of England, in the dark and to make this intricate figure...

(TF) I would ask them to do it for me and show me how they did it!

(F) Right!

(S) I donít know if it was Sightings or Encounters, but one time they had a segment on crop circles in Mexico, and they even appear on rock cliffs...

(F) Yes, and itís happening in Puerto Rico. And, the alleged report on this one was that Army type vehicles came in and destroyed it so people couldnít see it. Which leads me to believe, with my suspicious mind, that somebody doesnít want this stuff going on, for whatever reason.

(L) Yes, what are you going to do with a population that suddenly asks you: "Well, youíre in charge; what is this? Whatís going on?" And, you canít answer them. You have lost credibility as the authority.

(F) And, none of the answers you can come up with are safe. It offends the church because they canít explain it. It offends the scientific community because they canít explain it.

(L) Yes, the church calls everything they canít explain "The Work of the Devil."

(T) Which one?

(L) We think we have come up with an answer. Are we anywhere on the right track?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Anything further you would like to add to what we have said?
A: No.


Q: (L) As you know, I have been studying the Sufi teachings, and I am discovering so many similarities in these Sufi "unveilings" to what we have been receiving through this source, that I am really quite amazed, to say the least. So, my question is: could what we are doing here be considered an ongoing, incremental, "unveiling," as they call it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, from what I am reading, in the process of unveiling, at certain points, when the knowledge base has been sufficiently expanded, some sort of inner unveilings then begin to occur. Is this part of the present process?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) My experience has been, over the past couple of years, that whenever there is a significant increase in knowledge, that it is sort of cyclical - I go through a depression before I can assimilate - and it is like an inner transformation from one level to another. Is there something we can do, and if so, is it desirable, to increase or facilitate this process in some way?
A: It is a natural process, let it be.

Q: (L) One of the things that Al-Arabi writes about is the ontological level of being. Concentric circles, so to speak, of states of being. And, each state merely defines relationships. At each higher level you are closer to a direct relationship with the core of existence, and on the outer edges, you are in closer relationship with matter. This accurately explicates the 7 densities you have described for us. He also talks about the "outraying" and the "inward moving" toward knowledge. My thought was certain beings, such as 4th density STS, and other STS beings of 3rd density, who think that they are creating a situation where they will accrue power to themselves, may, in fact, be part of the "outraying" or dispersion into matter. Is this a correct perception?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Al-Arabi says, and this echoes what you have said, that you can stay in the illusion where you are, you can move downward or upward. Is this, in part, whichever direction you choose, a function of your position on the cycle?
A: It is more complex than that.

Q: (L) Well, I am sure of that. Al-Arabi presents a very complex analysis and he probably didnít know it all either... Nevertheless, in many places it is almost a word-for-word reflection of things that have been given directly to us through this source.
A: Now, learn, read, research all you can about unstable gravity waves.

Q: (L) Okay. Unstable gravity waves. Iíll see what I can find. Is there something more about this?
A: Meditate too! We mean for you, Laura, to meditate about unstable gravity waves as part of research.

Q: (L) Okay. Would it be alright to ask a few more questions about the Sufis?
A: Not unless you wish to get off the track.

Q: (L) That would be off the track from the way we are moving at present?
A: Not until you have memorized Sufi teachings to the extent that you can cross reference with Bible and similar works.

Q: (L) Okay. So, we are onto something with the Sufi teachings. But, we donít need to get off the track. I guess that they did with the Koran what some other mystics have done with the Bible. It is clear that there is something under the surface of it, but it is corrupted and twisted. And, I was convinced by seeing this underlying pattern that it was possible to penetrate the veil, and that gave me the impetus to push for a breakthrough.
A: Unstable gravity waves unlock as yet unknown secrets of quantum physics to make the picture crystal clear.

Q: (L) Can we free associate about these gravity waves since no bookstores are open at this hour? Gravity seems to be a property of matter. Is that correct?
A: And....

Q: (L) And hmmmm....
A: And antimatter!

Q: (L) Is the gravity that is a property of antimatter "antigravity?" Or, is it just gravity on the other side, so to speak?
A: Binder.

Q: (L) Okay. Gravity is the binder. Is gravity the binder of matter?
A: And... Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves!!!

Q: (L) Is antimatter ethereal existence?
A: Pathway to. Doorway to.

Q: (L) Are unstable gravity waves... do unstable gravity waves emanate from 7th density?
A: Throughout.

Q: (L) Do they emanate from any particular density?
A: That is just the point, there is no emanation point?

Q: (L) So, they are a property or attribute of the existence of matter, and the binder of matter to ethereal ideation?
A: Sort of, but they are a property of anti-matter, too!

Q: (L) So, through unstable gravity waves, you can access other densities?
A: Everything.

Q: (L) Can you generate them mechanically?
A: Generation is really collecting and dispersing.


Q: (L) One of the crop circles you interpreted was an "astronomical twin phenomenon." What is an astronomical twin phenomenon?
A: Many perfectly synchronous meanings. Duplicity of, as in "Alice through the looking glass."

Q: (L) Double images. Does this relate to matter and antimatter?
A: Yes, and...

Q: (L) Gravity and manifesting on one side and manifesting a mirror image on the other...
A: Yes, and... Astronomical.

Q: (L) Okay, that relates to stars and planets... astronomical in terms of another universe, an alternate universe composed of antimatter?
A: Yes, and....

Q: (L) Is this alternate universe of antimatter the point from which phenomena occur or are manifested in our universe?
A: More like doorway or "conduit."

Q: (L) Is this alternate universe the means by which we must travel to 4th density? Is it like a veil, or an abyss of some sort?
A: Think of it as the highway.

Q: (L) Is something going to happen in terms of interacting with this antimatter in order to bring about some sort of transition to a new universe?
A: No. Realm Border is traveling wave.

Q: (L) Okay, you say "traveling wave," and then you say that antimatter is the highway. Does this mean moving through antimatter or interacting in some way with antimatter via the the impetus of the traveling wave, or realm border?
A: Bends space/time, this is where your unstable gravity waves can be utilized.

Q: (L) Utilizing antimatter by creating an EM field, which destabilizes the gravity wave, allows antimatter to unite with matter, creating a portal through which space/time can be bent, or traveled through via this "bending." In other words, producing an EM field, bringing in the antimatter, IS the bending of space/time? Is that it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Unstable gravity waves... antimatter... destabilizing the gravity waves through EM generation allows the antimatter to interact with matter which then creates a portal... is it in the antimatter universe that all this traveling back and forth is done by aliens when they abduct people?
A: Close. They transport through it, but most abductions take place in either 3rd or 4th density.

Q: (L) Is this movement through the antimatter universe, is this what people perceive in their abductions as the "wall of fire?" The coming apart. The demolecularizing?
A: No. That is TransDimensional Atomic Remolecularization.

Q: (L) Okay, if a person were passing into the antimatter universe, how would they perceive it?
A: They wouldnít.

Q: (L) Why?
A: No space; no time.

Q: (L) Antimatter universe has no space and no time... so, the antimatter universe is possibly where the poor guys of flight 19 are stuck?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And you can get stuck in this place?
A: Yes. And if you are in a time warp coccoon, you are hyperconscious, i.e. you perceive "zero time" as if it were literally millions of years, that is if the cycle is connected or closed, as in "Philadelphia Experiment."


Q:! (L) Is this Mars Rock in the news leading up to some definite, overt interaction with aliens?

(T) They told us, we know it, yes!
A: Gradually.

Q: (T) Thatís what itís all about. Now if they want to go to Mars to look for civilizations and stuff, which theyíre going to lead up to, and back to the moon here, and all this, and theyíre going to make Hoagland feel really good, because heís right!
A: Notice how you heard nothing about the Mars Probes until the rock announcement? The excavation robot spacecraft. One Probe is already on its way, another to follow. No further explanation about "loss" of Mars Explorer.

Q: (L) What did happen to the Mars Explorer?
A: Blacked out. You see, íToo risky.í And too much too soon, due to pressure from Hoagland and others.

Q: (T) My own opinion is that theyíve already been there, and they know whatís there.
A: No. Microbes are easier to swallow than humans in togas!

Q: (T) Cleopatra and Antony are not going to go over real big this week! Especially with the Bible scholars.

(F) And the scientists! OK, you just mentioned that somebody from this planet already launched a Mars Probe. A new Mars Probe, that no one in public knows about. Because itís never been talked about. So, itís a secret probe. Who does it belong to?
A: Was secret US government.

Q: (J) When did it go up?
A: September of 1995.

Q: (T) Last September, a year ago. So, itís gone for a year. It takes it a year, two years to get there? Maybe not that long. So, itís over half-way there at this point.
A: Yes. Next year.

Q: (T) Next year for the next probe?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is this going to be one of those public ones? A publicly announced one?
A: They both are.

Q: (T) What is the purpose of these probes?
A: Excavation to display living organisms.

Q: (T) Display?

(L) Yes, for public consumption. In other words, not only do we have a rock now, that shows evidence that there was...

(T) Oh, display, as when they find it and dig it up, theyíre going to show it on camera!

(L) Yes!

(T) Connie Couric will interview it!

(L) Right!

(F) First they said they found no evidence, then they said it was inconclusive... Now, who the hell knows what they found! In revealing things, weíll start with fossilized life, and then move on...

(L) So, theyíre going to display the discovery of living organisms on Mars to take the next step to acclimate...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in other words, this process is going to be something of an on-going thing, and that all of these people who are cranking around about, you know, alien landings...
A: No faces, though.

Q: (L) Thereís not going to be any íFaces On Mars?í They are not going to show us...
A: Wonít be revealed, what do you think happened with Mars Explorer? Hoagland forced their hand.

Q: (T) What do we think happened to the Mars Explorer? I think they switched channels. They just moved it from one communication post to another, and itís doing exactly what itís supposed to be doing. And they did it in such a way, that the NASA people really didnít know what happened, so that when they were asked, they could say, íWe donít know what happened to it!í Because they really donít know what happened!

(L) When weíre talking about this dealing with these Mars Explorers - is all this stuff, or most of this stuff, coming from the 4th density manipulations of human minds, rather than...
A: Yes.

Q: (L)... rather than actual, physical entry and doing of deeds? Is that it?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) I have a question. Theyíre going to display live organisms, like, how did they put that íLiving organismsí? How big are these living organisms going to be? How advanced?
A: Teeny-tiny.

Q: (T) So, weíre still talking about microscopic organisms here?
A: Yes.

Q: (J) So, they wonít wave at us!
A: But these will be alive. Canít you see the progression here? "Donít want to scare Grandma Sally Bible Thumper/Stockmarket Investor!"


Q: (L) All right, letís get on to our questions here. Let me ask about the tetrahedron. Terry, you ask it, because you know more about it.

(T) The Tetrahedron, triangle mathematics that Hoagland is working with in conjunction with the Mars/Cydonia region where he supposedly discovered this...
A: Energy consolidator. EM Wave capturer.

Q: (T) Ok, so itís an EM wave capturer. Does it also emit EM waves?
A: Close. Channels and enhances, when used properly, and in pristine conditions.

Q: (T) Hoagland is not talking about... whatever heís talking about, as far as the mathematics go, of the tetrahedral triangles within the sphere, which Iím assuming this planet is calling the sacred geometries, but are physics-type things of different densities, which may not actually be right. OK, this doesnít apply just to Mars, this is, every sphere has these same properties...
A: Yes.

Q: (T)... a golf ball, a base ball; I know theyíre not perfect spheres, they have dimples; all the way up to the sun, and so forth and so on, of any size, made out of any material, as long as itís a sphere, it will have the same properties.
A: No. Must be magnetized.

Q: (T) OK, itís a magnetized sphere; something that has a magnetic field around it.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the tetrahedral configuration a property of the magnetism?
A: No.

Q: (T) OK, my question is, the sphere has to be able to generate a magnetic field, like the earth has a magnetic field, like Mars generates a magnetic field...
A: Or be magnetized by installation of internal magnetic generator.

Q: (L) OK, whatís the purpose of this? Whatís the purpose of these tetrahedrons? What are the...
A: Purpose is not proper term. It is a reflection of universal balance.

Q: (L) OK, well, this guy J__ says that they are designated by different monuments on the planetís surface...
A: Nonsense!!! Artificial constructed tetrahedrons are placed on strategic locations on the planetís surface in order to utilize magnetic fields properly.

Q: (L) Who places these artificially constructed tetrahedrons at these points?
A: The artificial constructors.

Q: (L) And who are they?
A: Whomever they may be. Nineteen degrees north and south.

Q: (T) Those are the numbers that Hoagland came up with, with his stuff. On most of the planets, and our sun, we seem to have major events happening, or have happened...
A: Hawaii.

Q: (T) Yes, Hawaii, Puerto Rico... letís see, 19 degrees north and south, Phillipines, I think, is somewhere close, on the south side. Major volcanos...

(F) Phillipines is on the north side, thatís not in the Southern Hemisphere...

(T) Iíd have to pull out a global map to see what the 19 degrees are. On Mars, Cydonia resides at approximately 19 degrees, the Giant volcano, the dead volcano on Mars is approximately 19 degrees, the stuff that they found on Venus, the major things, are at approximately 19 degrees. The sunspots are approximately 19 degrees, the red spot on Jupiter...

(L) Do the tetrahedrons spin within the sphere? Do these power points of the tetrahedron spin?
A: Energy fields flow in balance.

Q: (T) Is there... now, am I correct in the fact that thereís a direct relationship here to the real Hebrew Star of David, to these tetrahedrals?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Yes. So that that symbol is not a religious symbol, as such, but a very important...

(L)...power symbol.
A: Yes. So is pentagon.

Q: (T) So is the Pentagon? These are part of what humans describe as the sacred geometries.
A: Yes. You as Atlanteans knew this, and lived by it in many ways. For example, the pyramid recharges by capturing exactly half the energy points, thus allowing a positive imbalance buildup to be captured, then expended.

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