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			by Laura Knight-Jadczyk 
			
			Updated April 26, 2000 
			from
			
			Cassiopaea Website 
			  
			  
			Those of you who have read some, most, or all of the material 
			of 
			the Cassiopaean, are familiar with the fact that the Cassiopaeans, as a "channeled" source, stand almost alone in the 
			presenting of the "Alien Scenario" as a Threat to mankind.  
			  
			You may 
			also be familiar with the fact that, when we were first given the 
			information regarding the "farming and harvesting" of human beings 
			for the use of certain higher density beings, we were unilaterally 
			distressed and wished very much to find grounds on which to reject 
			this hypothesis. This, naturally, fueled an in-depth look at all of 
			the literature that was available by ordinary means, as well as some 
			that was only available via the "underground." 
 It is now time to tell a little bit about the background activities 
			going on behind a number of the sessions, of which much of the 
			material is posted at Cassiopaea.
 
 I was presented with copies of the now infamous "KRLL" papers in 
			January of 1995, by a Reiki master from whom I was taking 
			instruction and attunements. They had been given to her, and she 
			passed them on to me, knowing of my interest in the UFO arena. I was 
			perfectly amazed to discover threads of the same material that the Cassiopaeans were delivering woven throughout this purported 
			"communication" from an "EBE" (Extraterrestrial Biological Entity).
 
 We asked the Cassiopaeans about this subject even before we had read 
			them. This extract will give the reader some idea of the great 
			amount of discussion and commentary that went on amongst the group 
			DURING the sessions.
 
			  
			Sometimes it was a perfect melee of comments 
			and differing opinions! 
				
					
					  
					January 14, 1995
 Q: (L) Now, I want to ask about these KRLL documents 
					that Sally has told me about and is sending. Tell us what is 
					the background and validity of the KRLL papers. Terry knows 
					more about them than I do. Supposedly it is some kind of 
					exposition written by an alien being revealing the 
					government conspiracy. Were the KRLL papers valid? (T) KRLL 
					was supposedly a prisoner of the United States. (L) Was 
					there really such a being as KRLL?
 A: Semi.
 
 
					Q: (T) Is there any validity to 
					the KRLL papers? A: Semi.
 
 
					Q: (T) Was it dictated by this 
					alien being? A: Maybe.
 
 
					Q: (T) Was it put together by a 
					human? A: Semi.
 
 
					Q: (T) Is this in the same area 
					of UFO lore as the Cooper and Lear and Lazar and
					Bennewitz 
					stuff? A: We have told you many times... Laura, pay attention... 
					Listen!
 
 
					Q: (L) Well, you say "semi." 
					Semi means half-way. Is it half true or half-way true? A: Whoa! Calm down! Patience! We are trying to tell you 
					something important, and you keep asking questions. We have 
					told you many times to communicate with each other and 
					network and share ideas, because that is how you LEARN and 
					PROGRESS! But, you are beginning to rely on us for all your 
					answers, and you do not LEARN that way!!!!!!! Now, try this, 
					you will be thunderstruck with the results: Each of you has 
					stored within you unlimited amounts of factual and 
					"Earthshaking" information. This information was put into 
					your consciousness in order for you to retrieve it in order 
					for you to learn. Now just start by holding a discussion 
					about the last series of questions you were trying to ask 
					us, and "let it flow."
 
 
					Q: (L) Well, if 
					
					John Lear and 
					
					William Cooper are saying basically the same thing the
					KRLL 
					document is saying, where did they get their information? 
					(T) One of the rumors going on was that Moore or Lear or 
					Bennewitz, one of these, was the one that had written the 
					KRLL papers. There was some talk that KRLL may have been an 
					acronymn used by the government to identify this being who 
					gave the information which is the basis of this document.
 (L) To your knowledge, would Lear or Cooper ever have been 
					in a position, or did they ever at any time claim to have 
					been in a position, to observe any of this activity written 
					up in this document themselves?
 (T) I don’t believe that either of them have ever claimed to 
					have been in a position to have physically observed any of 
					this or to have been in the underground bases. They were 
					working with information they claimed to have gotten from 
					other sources.
 (L) And what do they claim their other sources are? Unnamed?
 (T) A lot of them are unnamed. Moore and Cooper claim they 
					have inside government sources. I believe Cooper is the one 
					who claims that he at one time worked for the military.
 
					 (L) Is he the one who claims that he was the intelligence 
					analyst for the Admiral of the Pacific Fleet or something 
					like that?
 (T) Yes. There are several versions of the Cooper papers as 
					he modifies and updates them. He didn’t change anything 
					really, he just cleaned them up, re-edited them and added to 
					them.
 (L) Okay, if this is the case, it would seem to me that a 
					person would have a much better chance of having something 
					believed if they presented it as coming from a human source 
					who either observed or saw it. Why would they say that this 
					is an alien dictating this when that is so far and away more 
					unbelievable? It seems to me that if they were making it up 
					they would have far better chance if they said a human 
					extracted this information rather than that it is what the 
					alien said. That would almost tend, in a backward sort of 
					way, to make you think that maybe this KRLL dude, maybe it 
					was true. But, the only thing about that is, if it was an 
					alien, especially if it was an STS alien, how much of it was 
					true? That’s the question.
 (T) Well, KRLL was supposed to be one of the standard Grays.
 
					(L) Well, then, maybe we can’t rely on anything he says. We 
					can rely on the fact that it is possible that it was an 
					alien who gave this information, but if it was one of the 
					standard Grays, then we have been informed as to who and 
					what they are and we have to look at the information itself 
					as being unreliable, not necessarily the human who revealed 
					the scenario.
 (F) Well, it is not necessarily unreliable even if it is an 
					STS (Service to Self) source.
 (L) Yes, but as STS they would undoubtedly only give 
					information that would tend to service their position.
 (F) That would seem to be the case if you look at it from 
					the obvious angle. But, that is not necessarily true. Just 
					because it is an STS alien, and, in fact, a cybergenetic 
					being, that does not mean that the information is 
					necessarily inaccurate for several reasons. For those of us 
					who have reached a certain level of understanding, our first 
					assumption would be that it is inaccurate, so it could be a 
					reverse psychology ploy. Give accurate information, get 
					those who are at a higher level of understanding to think 
					it’s inaccurate, when in actuality it is accurate.
 
					 (L) Well, do you know what it said? From what Sally tells 
					me, it says, basically, what we have been getting from the Cassiopaeans.
 (F) Well, then it is accurate.
 (L) We can’t make that assumption!
 (T) If this is a standard cybergenetic Gray, the question is 
					how much biological is he? Is he biological enough to pass a 
					dissection?
 (L) Sure, I think. There are reports of autopsies of these 
					guys, they just can’t figure out how they feed because they 
					are reported to have dead-end alimentary canals.
 (F) They are cybergenetic, but they look and function 
					exactly like a biological being. If you go inside of them 
					you will find blood and fibers and tissue and microscopic 
					evidence...
 (L) The microscopic exams, from what I have heard, reveal 
					that they’re more in the line of a plant...
 (T) Yes.
 
					 (F) Which, of course, would indicate that they have been 
					grown!
 (L) Yes. Imagine chromosomal linking of human genetic 
					information with that of the plant kingdom.
 (T) You could literally grow hundreds of them easily.
 (L) And plant them like seeds... and, apparently that is 
					what they have done. People have come back who have been 
					taken to these ships and have seen walls of containers 
					growing these things. Like a room in a hot house.
 (F) Well, there you go. We have gotten information which 
					indicates that the Grays have access to both dimensions 
					because they are probes of the Lizzies. And this gives us a 
					further clue as to what a strange place 4th level is if such 
					"probes" can be grown like plants! And, what level must 
					fully souled 4th density beings be when we are fooled into 
					believing their cybergenetic constructions are the "real 
					thing!"
 
					 (T) Does this mean that the abilities of the Lizzies, since 
					they have to create "probes" to enter our density, would not 
					be any more advanced than, say, your everyday spirit? 
					Without the Grays, would they be able to interact with us at 
					all?
 (F) Yes.
 (L) Yes, they are, they have, they will and they do from all 
					reports I have studied.
 (F) But, there are several problems. One is their appearance 
					is very, very alarming...
 (J) They would garner a lot of attention if they walked down 
					the street.
 (T) It depends on how they dress themselves!
 (L) They can shape-shift.
 
					 (F) They can shape-shift, but only for a limited period of 
					time.
 (L) Because it takes 3rd density energy to do that.
 (F) That brings up something, when we were talking to Susy 
					on the phone the other night, Susy and Barry mentioned the 
					Men In Black. The response said that the Men In Black were 
					"Lizard beings." In many reports of Men In Black, they have 
					been described as very strange in numerous ways. Their 
					voices have been described as sounding like they come from 
					an echo chamber, and...
 (T) Well, when we asked about the Men in Black in one of the 
					sessions, what did the Cassiopaeans say? That they are 
					"Projections."
 
					(J) Exactly, maybe that is a clue, maybe that is how they 
					come into our reality: as projections from 4th into 3rd.
 (F) But, there is one case that always sticks in my mind, 
					and it took place relatively recently, on April 28, 1978, a 
					guy in Maine who had been doing UFO research, was accosted 
					by a single Man in Black. He said the guy was very strange 
					in many ways. He had pink... his face looked like it was 
					covered with make-up, and, in fact, when he touched himself 
					at one point and his face started to smear as if it was 
					completely covered. And then, he suddenly got up and said: 
					"Have to go now... run-n-n-ing out of e- ner-gy." Then he 
					walked out of the house and staggered down the drive. They 
					guy said that at that point he became somewhat disoriented 
					as he watched the Man in Black start to stagger....
 (L) He was not the Energizer Bunny! [laughter]
 
					 (F) And then the man saw a light that he at first thought 
					was the headlight of a car, but the Man in Black walked into 
					the light and was gone.
 (J) Projections! That’s how they move from 4th to 3rd.
 (L) They said they project as a "triage." Remember. It was 
					something like travel in space/time.
 (T) Well, we have gotten off the discussion of KRLL, but we 
					have certainly been led into some pretty amazing conclusions 
					about 4th level.
 (F) All of what we have worked with over the years, the 
					ideas of it being a nuts and bolts phenomenon, which I 
					originally thought too, and it’s clear if one has been 
					following the whole phenomenon closely, it has evolved, 
					actually, from a nuts-and-bolts perspective, and I am not 
					knocking nuts-and-bolts, but those who are really looking 
					with an open mind are seeing that this is far more.
 (L) Alright, here it is guys... [had been looking for 
					references to Men In Black] ...
 
 Q: Who or what are the Men in Black?
 A: Lizard Projections.
 
 (T) We got on to that because we were asking about the 
					projection of the guy in the Camaro that showed up in my 
					driveway.
 
 Q: Does this mean that the Lizards are just projecting an 
					image of a being?
 A: Yes.
 
 
					Q: The MIBs are not real in our 
					physical terms?A: Partly correct. You do not understand technology but we 
					will describe it if you like. First we must explain further 
					"time travel" because the two concepts are closely related. 
					The first step is to artificially induce an electro-magnetic 
					field. This opens the door between dimensions of reality. 
					Next, thoughts must be channeled by participant in order to 
					access reality bonding channel. They must then focus the 
					energy to the proper dimensional bridge, the electrons must 
					be arranged in correct frequency wave, and then the triage 
					must be sent through realm curtain in order to balance 
					perceptions at all density levels. Triage is as follows:
 
						
						1. 
					Matter 
						2. Energy 
						3. Perception of reality 
					(L) In other words they send through... (J) Holographic images.
 (T) They transmit energy that takes matter here and creates 
					what we perceive, and what we perceive depends on...
 (L) It is like doing a back-flip through the realm curtain.
 (T) And what the individual sees depends upon what they 
					expect to see, which the Lizzies have to tap into first 
					before they do the triage... that is the "reality bonding 
					channel." If you are open to see Men in Black, even if you 
					don’t know what they are, then at some level of 
					consciousness...
 (F) But I think this is not just limited to Men In Black.
 (L) Listen to this! [reads from transcript]
 
 Q: Several times I have heard references to big rectangular 
					boxes, I would like to know who these belong to?"
 A: Lizard projections...
 
 (L) What are they doing, projecting their whole damn reality 
					into our world?
 (F) Well, apparently part of the whole process of going from 
					4th density to 3rd density is the "projection" process 
					itself. This also, of course, explains much of what we have 
					read and heard about in terms of higher phenomena. You 
					cannot ground it at all. So many people have fallen off the 
					track by expecting to capture metallic craft and dissect 
					them, and, while that does happen... That is where material 
					science falls apart. It is stuck in a vicious cycle.
 (J) Yes, and it is using it’s own rules to make itself 
					obsolete!
 (F) Right!
 (T) So, the bottom line is, we have simply gone beyond the 
					KRLL stuff, the Cooper and Lear stuff, and so on.
 (F) Which is one of the reasons why the Cassiopaeans keep 
					telling us to stop asking these stupid questions.
 (T) We don’t need to go into all that.
 (F) Yes, that’s "UFO’s 101."
 (T) There’s another thing that is even more interesting and 
					that is that we are not alone in this density, there are 
					other beings on other planets also. And, it just may be that 
					some of them are coming here just to throw some more stuff 
					in the soup to keep us confused as to which or who is what.
 (F) I have a feeling, though, that probably, everything that 
					we have experienced in the UFO area over the many years is a 
					passage from higher levels of density to this one. I don’t 
					think that we have ever experienced a 3rd to 3rd transfer. 
					That is just my feeling. And, it is only just now that 
					people are beginning to realize that. In other words...
 (T) Well, that is what 
					
					Vallee thinks, along those lines, so 
					he is just looking at interdimensional, because...
 (F) But Vallee is also a material scientist so he is 
					examining it in a scientific way. He is a little more 
					open-minded than some who would just say it is impossible 
					because we haven’t discovered it yet... But, he is doing it 
					in a very careful way.
 (L) Well, have we done enough with KRLL?
 (T) Yeah, I think we have done more than enough with KRLL.
 
			At that point, we turned to other 
			subjects.
 I first became aware of the Matrix books, assembled and published by 
			
			Val Valerian, the following month, in February of 1995. I was 
			invited to visit an elderly gentleman who had been interested in 
			UFOs for over 40 years, and he showed me his library, which 
			contained the Matrix books. I only saw them on the shelf, and did 
			not actually have time to open the covers, but he assured me that 
			they were full of interesting information. At that time, I had no 
			idea of how they would "connect" to the KRLL papers.
 
 A week later I had received the KRLL papers from Sally and had read 
			them by the time of the next session. I decided to ask a couple of 
			follow up questions. This is an unpublished excerpt from the 
			"Mutilations" session of January 21, 1995:
 
				
					
					Q: (L) Okay, give me a quick yes 
					or no answer on this: 
					
					Dr. Paul Bennewitz - reliable, yes or 
					no? A: No.
 
 
					Q: (L) Is his statement, as it 
					is recorded in the KRLL papers, falsified? A: No.
 
 
					Q: (L) Is any of that statement 
					true? A: Partly.
 
 
					Q: (L) Who is O.H. KRLL?A: No one.
 
 
					Q: (L) Is O.H. KRLL a group?
					A: Symbolism. For documentary purposes only, your government 
					likes code names.
 
			[I would like to draw attention to this 
			last remark which, considering later revelations, seems to indicate 
			that the individuals responsible for the KRLL papers may be 
			government "related." Take it for what it’s worth.] 
				
					
					Q: (L) Are you implying that 
					this piece of work was put out by the government for 
					dissemination of the subject matter? (J) Is it 
					disinformation?A: Complex.
 
 
					Q: (L) Give us a percentage of 
					factual information in this document. A: 43%
 
 
					Q: (L) Are you saying that 43% 
					is factual? A: Close enough.
 
 
					Q: (L) Okay, so, in other words, 
					this has been planted by the government. Was it put out with 
					the intention of giving out some factual information... A: No. Planted? No.
 
 
					Q: (L) You are saying it was not 
					planted? (T) It was leaked purposely? A: Your government is operating on many cross-purposes, very 
					complicated!
 
			[Again note the "government" reference 
			and the implication that there may be elements in the government who 
			are interested in "informing" the public along with those interested 
			in "disinforming" the public and various combinations of both 
			activities.] 
				
					
					Q: (T) Even the simplest things 
					are very complicated with them. Okay, question: The U.S. 
					government... A: On purpose!
 
 
					Q: (T) Very true. Question: The 
					government, our government, the U.S. government, according 
					to what you said earlier, is holding 36 craft of one kind or 
					another that they have gotten in one way or another. How 
					many other governments have alien craft? A: All is one.
 
 
					Q: (L) We already have a 
					one-world government is what they’re saying. (T) Yes, 
					they’re just waiting to make it official somehow. A: Has been so for long time, as you measure time.
 
 
					Q: (L) Let me ask this one 
					before the tape runs out and we take a break. What is the 
					"ultimate secret" being protected by the Consortium? A: You are not in control of yourselves, you are an 
					experiment.
 
			In September of the same year, I met a 
			young woman, an astrologer and writer on assorted metaphysical 
			subjects, who attended the now well-know sessions of September 16 
			and 24th wherein the Cassiopaeans more fully explicated the subject 
			of the Earth-Orion connection. The books were not only shown to me 
			by this multi-talented individual, they were lent to me for a period 
			of time, and I felt compelled to read them in their entirety so as 
			to return them in a timely manner. They are very lengthy, and this 
			took several weeks of daily reading many hours. (Later, I was gifted 
			with the copies belonging to the elderly gentleman aforementioned, 
			and now have them as permanent references.)
 In any event, as I was reading them through the month of October, 
			1995, I saw that the KRLL papers were part of the 
			
			Matrix books. I 
			was also pretty overwhelmed with the material itself, as anyone who 
			has read the first three volumes, one after another with very little 
			stopping to eat or sleep will understand.
 
 There was an address in the books and I decided to write to Val 
			Valerian and send him some of the Cassiopaean material -. the raw 
			transcripts from the first few sessions - and query him about his 
			sources. I figured that I needed to share what we had quid pro quo, 
			if I expected him to answer any of my questions. I included my phone 
			number, and was surprised when, a short time later, he called me on 
			the phone.
 
 Val was very curious about the Cassiopaean contact and mentioned the 
			fact that it was really "disconnected" and a "mess" in terms of 
			needing editing, suggesting that he would be interested in doing it 
			and publishing it in an upcoming "Matrix" volume.
 
 Since I was interested in getting opinions from other people on the 
			material we were receiving, I thought that this was a golden 
			opportunity to "connect" with other like-minded people. I agreed to 
			send Val everything we had received up to that point. This was, I 
			believe, mid-November of 1995. But, I hesitated to send it all 
			without editing out certain "sensitive" information.
 
 In the meantime, I tried to find out what I could about him. The 
			woman who lent me the Matrix books told me that his name was really
			John Grace and that he was a retired Major in the Air Force. That 
			made me even more hesitant about sending our files.
 
 He called again. During the course of this follow-up conversation, 
			during which Val was urging me again to send the files, I told him 
			that I had discovered his real identity, and that I had been 
			thinking about what the Cassiopaeans had said about the KRLL papers, 
			and his own connection with the military, and that I had concluded 
			that HE was the author of the KRLL papers.
 
 There was a LONG pregnant silence before he recovered and evaded the 
			issue adroitly, leaving me with the impression that, since he WAS 
			the author, I should be even more inclined to trust him because we 
			were on the "same side" so to speak. I again agreed to send him the 
			files.
 
 After I sent the diskette with all our material on it, I didn’t hear 
			from Val again.
 
 On December 2, 1995, I asked about this:
 
				
					
					Q: (L) Now, tell me about this 
					guy Val. A: Learn through active pursuit of contact and observation.
 
			But Val was not responding to the 
			several letters I sent. I didn’t have a phone number, and I was not 
			aware of an e-mail address at this point, so I didn’t know what else 
			to do.   
			On December 16, 1995, I again asked why 
			I had heard nothing: 
				
					
					Q: (L) Why haven’t I heard from 
					Val? A: "Push buttons" more. Ask for more contact.
 
			Well, I did, but I was beginning to 
			suspect that the "learning through active pursuit of contact and 
			observation" might not be such a positive thing in this particular 
			case!
 But then, he called in twice in late December, and again in January 
			to ask follow-up questions about the material I had sent him. I had 
			the distinct feeling that I was being "probed" for something, but 
			could not identify what. He asked me to send him everything as it 
			came through. I agreed to do so.
 
 Then silence again.
 
 On January 13, 1996, I asked about this strange situation.
 
				
					
					Q: What is going on with 
					Val 
					Valerian? He was calling every week, and I have not heard 
					from him in almost a week. A: He lost track of time.
 
 
					Q: Why did he lose track of 
					time? A: Busy with many projects.
 
			Well, he was certainly busy with many 
			"projects." His other project seemed to be promotion of a guy named 
			
			Drunvalo Melchizidek and his "Flower of Life" workshops. I read this 
			information and was puzzled as to why Val would become involved in 
			promoting something that was clearly not the same level of material 
			as, say, the 
			Michael Topper articles contained in the 
			Matrix books.
 The very next thing I heard was in an e-mail from a very 
			knowledgeable researcher who sent me the "Stunning New Information 
			Channelled by 
			Alex Collier:
			
			The Andromedans!" That was the line in 
			the Subject field of the e-mail, and I was certainly interested in 
			reading more though I was only able to scan through it quickly at 
			the time.
 
 At almost the same time, I received information from another contact 
			who had asked Val (in a personal conversation via telephone) about 
			the Cassiopaeans, and that Val had said that he didn’t want anything 
			to do with the material because it was too "disorganized" and would 
			require too much work to get it presentable for publication.
 
 Well, I just dropped the whole subject for quite awhile. I had too 
			many other things to attend to at the time.
 
 I didn’t come back to the subject until January 4th, 1997 when the 
			following exchange occurred:
 
				
					
					Q: (L) Now, it occurred to me 
					tonight while writing to J, and it rather jumped into my 
					mind while thinking how best to answer his questions, that 
					it was very strange that Val was virtually begging me for 
					every session I had transcribed, and I sent them to him as 
					they were done, he called every week for awhile to discuss 
					them, and then suddenly silence, no responses, and virtually 
					in the next week after the last contact, he produces Alex 
					Collier and the Andromedans. And, the funny thing I thought 
					about recently is that Andromeda was the daughter of Cassiopia!  
					  
					The only thing is, there is a core of information 
					in the Andromedan stuff that is so similar, but it is 
					wrapped in 3rd density garbage. Is it possible that the 
					reason for this strange interaction is that the material I 
					sent him has been, shall we say, borrowed?  
			[Note: The above remark about the Andromendan material was my opinion at the time based on my very 
			cursory skimming of same coupled with the growing feeling that, in 
			interacting with Val Valerian, we might be dealing with an 
			individual or group of individuals who made a career out of 
			"borrowing" material and then attributing it to this or that source, 
			in the same way the KRLL papers were put together and distributed. I 
			wasn’t even sure if Alex Collier was a real person! I had tried to 
			get some further information about him via the internet, but had hit 
			only brick walls. Thus, my "assumption" was based more on 
			the Cassiopaean assessment of the KRLL papers as having a "43 percent" 
			accuracy rating, so I applied this formula to that which I had only 
			briefly skimmed. I leave the remark in the text because I don’t like 
			to edit the trascripts which are presented, for the most part, 
			verbatim. 
 In recent times, we have been contacted by persons closely 
			associated with Alex Collier and the Andromedan material who 
			objected (quite rightly) to my careless comment. Thus, I took time 
			away from the work of getting 
			the "Wave" series completed to 
			download and read the Andromedan material more carefully. I can now 
			say that it is NOT accurate to say that the Andromedan material is 
			similar to the Cassiopaean material "wrapped" in anything.
 
			  
			In fact, 
			after reading it, I find very little similarity at all. So, I 
			apologize profusely to Alex Collier and his associates for the 
			remark, but I will not remove my remark because, as many of you 
			know, I work very hard for clarity, accuracy, and truth. Part of that truth is the fact that I am not perfect; I am 
			learning all of these things right along with the reader. When I 
			screw up, I admit it, try to fix it, avoid doing it again, and keep 
			moving on.] 
				
					
					A: Influences derived from our 
					messages to you are to be seen more and more due to your 
					widespread sharing of same. 
 
					Q: (L) Well, I am not 
					objecting... I just want people to hear it, so I don’t 
					really mind... A: Good, perhaps, but... there is much opportunity for 
					corruption!
 
 
					Q: (L) Well, that is certainly 
					true, considering the stuff that is coming back to me about 
					the "Wave." But I have exchanged so much information with 
					other folks on the net that I am NOT operating in a vacuum. 
					Things CAN be dated! 
			Well, this has recently come up in 
			discussion among us again. After much more study and analysis, Ark 
			has determined that there is a great deal of "disinformation" 
			contained within the Matrix material. So, I went on a web search to 
			discover what I could about the opinions of other people and 
			possible corroborating research into this matter. 
 I discovered a most interesting fact: On December 22, 1995, 
			John 
			Lear appeared on Bob Lazar’s radio talk show on KLAV in Las Vegas.
 
 In a report by Glenn Campbell, the following remarks are made:
 
				
				I think UFO Line is one of the most 
				interesting UFO radio talk shows ever to hit the airwaves. It is 
				not for the guests or content that I adore it so. Both have been 
				nothing new and--at least in tonight’s case--have been no 
				different than the crapola put out every week by Art Bell. What 
				makes this show stand out is the refreshing attitude of the boys 
				who host it, Gene Huff and Bob Lazar, who just don’t give a 
				damn. 
 Tonight’s guest was a surprise, and although he has always been 
				one of the principal characters in the Lazar story, he was not 
				on my list of potential guests in my last report (12/15). He is 
				John Lear, the ufological wolfman who, in the words of one 
				reviewer, "never met a UFO story he did not like and 
				wholeheartedly endorse." [...]
 
 Lazar asked Lear about John Grace, aka "Vladimir Valerian," (sic) and 
				what he was up to. Lear said he was in Oregon and had a 
				successful business [apparently selling his expensive self-published newsletters and documents, Matrix I, II, III, etc.] 
				Lear said that Grace was a tech sergeant at Nellis when he met 
				him and that they cooperated on the naming of a UFO document 
				that Grace had written. They decided to attribute it to "O.H. 
				KRLL," a name they made up.
 
 Bill Cooper later claimed, on a TV show in Lear’s presence, that 
				he had read the same O.H. KRLL document years before while in 
				the Navy -- an impossibility.
 
 Lear says the "O.H." meant nothing, but 
				Cooper later claimed it 
				meant "Original Hostage."
 [...]
 
 Lear described how Cooper’s claims about what he read as a Navy 
				petty officer seems to be continuously revised to support 
				whatever Lear claimed. In the beginning, Lear said Cooper could 
				personally vouch for "50%" of what Lear claimed, but within 
				about a month it became "150%."
 [...]
 
 Gene Huff added: "Obviously, no matter what you think of Cooper, 
				Cooper does have a great mind, and he has the capability to take 
				everyone’s information and spin it into a giant story that he 
				read about when he was in the Navy."
 [...]
 
 Nonetheless, Lear still believes Cooper’s original story, before 
				he started embellishing it.
 [...]
 
 Lear: "Good old Bill, he takes a lot of flak, but we named the 
				disease that Bill Cooper got that many of us got, that was 
				called the UFO disease. The UFO disease is when you start out in 
				this business and you hear and see some stuff that really 
				happens, really real, but you start adding onto it, and like 
				Bill, he just got too far out."
 [...]
 
 The station probably cannot be heard outside Las Vegas -- but I 
				think that’s good. This is a connoisseur’s show. You have to 
				know the characters to fully appreciate it. No doubt, tapes of 
				the show will be circulating for years in the UFO underground, 
				so there isn’t any need for worldwide broadcast.
 
 Glenn Campbell
 
				
				posted to alt.conspiracy.area51, 12/27/95 
				 
				
				Copyright © 1996, Glenn Campbell, 
				 
				
				PO Box 448, Rachel, NV 89001. 
			Now, the most curious thing I find in 
			the above extract, is that John Lear "blew the whistle" on 
			Val’s 
			authorship of the KRLL papers... almost immediately after Val 
			received the diskette from me which contained the remarks about this 
			being connected in some way to a government "leak" as well as my own 
			statement to Val that he was, in my opinion, the author of the KRLL 
			papers!!!
 I am not assuming anything, I am just noting the chronology of 
			events.
 
 Nevertheless, I DID send a copy of the transcript of the session 
			quoted above where I remarked about the similarity of certain 
			aspects of the Andromedan material to the files I had sent Val back 
			in 1995 and 1996. It was a courtesy because Val was mentioned in the 
			session. No response.
 
			  
			So, I brought it up on June 28, 1997: 
			 
				
					
					Q: But, I did send a copy of 
					last week’s transcript to Val, and a nice little note with 
					it, because he was mentioned... and so on. But, there has 
					been nothing but a resounding silence. We have heard 
					nothing. A: In this case, the silence is noteworthy. Regarding 
					Valerian, it is those with which he is directly acquainted 
					and/or associated that is of greatest importance!
 
 
					Q: Do you want to give another 
					clue on that? A: He is interesting, but those with whom he is acquainted 
					and associated are even more interesting!! The information 
					in his sphere of influence is of "blockbuster" like 
					significance. We suspect an intellectual exchange of the 
					kind to which you have become accustomed with some of these 
					beings would boost your knowledge/awareness base atomically!
 
			I don’t know precisely what the Cassiopaeans mean by this last remark... but it is extremely 
			curious! Why do they refer to the associates of Val Valerian as 
			"beings" with "blockbuster" information? 
 It gets curiouser and curiouser!
 
 
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