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  by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
 Signs of The Times
 10 January 2007
 from 
			Sott Website
 
			  
			  
			  
			
			 
			Moonrise over a 
			glacier
 
			  
			A few months ago a member of the SOTT 
			Forum posted a link to the following article about investigations 
			into climate change.  
			  
			I wasn't too sure what the contradictory term 
			"Tropical Ice Cores" meant, but the article seemed to explain all 
			that:
 
				
				Tropical Ice Cores Shows Two Abrupt Global 
				Climate Shifts
 For the first time, glaciologists have combined and compared 
				sets of ancient climate records trapped in ice cores from the 
				South American Andes and the Asian Himalayas to paint a picture 
				of how climate has changed - and is still changing - in the 
				tropics.
 
 Their conclusions mark a massive climate shift to a cooler 
				regime that occurred just over 5,000 years ago, and a more 
				recent reversal to a much warmer world within the last 50 years.
 
 The evidence also suggests that most of the high-altitude 
				glaciers in the planet's tropical regions will disappear in the 
				near future. The paper is included in the current issue of the 
				journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.
 
 Lastly, the research shows that in most of the world, glaciers 
				and ice caps are rapidly retreating, even in areas where 
				precipitation increases are documented. This implicates 
				increasing temperatures and not decreasing precipitation as the 
				most likely culprit. [...]
 
					
					"Approximately 70 percent of the world's population now lives in 
				the tropics so when climate changes there, the impacts are 
				likely to be enormous," explains Lonnie Thompson, professor of 
				geological sciences at Ohio State. [...]
 "We have a record going back 2,000 years and when you plot it 
				out, you can see the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) and the 
					Little 
				Ice Age (LIA)," Thompson said.
 
				During the MWP, 700 to 1000 years 
				ago, the climate warmed in some parts of the world. The MWP was 
				followed by the LIA, a sudden onset of colder temperatures 
				marked by advancing glaciers in Europe and North America. 
				  
					
					
					
					 
					
					Glaciers are the 
				most destructive and powerful things on Earth.  
					  
					
					"And in that same record, you can 
				clearly see the 20th Century and the thing that stands out - 
				whether you look at individual cores or the composite of all 
				seven - is how unusually warm the last 50 years have been.
 "There hasn't been anything in the record like it - not even the 
				MWP," Thompson said.
 
 "The fact that the isotope values in the last 50 years have been 
				so unusual means that things are dramatically changing. That's 
				the real story here." [...]
 
					  
					  
					
					
					
					 
					
					NASA The colossal iceberg, 120 kilometres long, appears to have run 
				aground
 
					
					just 4 kilometers 
				from the giant ice tongue into which it was set to collide 
 
					  
					"The take-home message is that 
					global climate can change abruptly, and with 6.5 billion people 
				inhabiting the planet, that's serious." 
			Warning: I'm going to talk about 
			"channeled material" here, so if you don't like it or think it is 
			whacky, you can stop reading now and not be contaminated by such 
			far-out, fringe nonsense..
 Everybody settled down now?
 
			  
			Good. To continue.    
			The forum member, "Appollynon", added 
			some comments as follows:  
				
				The thing that really gets my 
				attention here, is how this article is very, very close to the 
				sort of information the C's [Cassiopaean Experiment] transcripts 
				were talking about in terms of abrupt Global Climate change 
				occurring in our near future. ...
 For me the only details really missing from this article are 
				that our Big Blue Marble isn't the only planet in the solar 
				system to be affected by global warming. Which makes me wonder 
				"How could us pesky li'l humans be doing all this"? I don't 
				think we can, and I'm leaning more and more to believing through 
				study and observation the information presented by Laura in The 
				Wave series and her articles on site that hint at all of this 
				warming activity as a precursor to the coming Wave...
 
 My current thinking is that there seems to be a flood of new 
				energy entering our planet which is affecting both the global 
				climate, and tectonic movements (meaning earthquake activity 
				as well as volcanic and magmatic activity).
   
				The only explanation for this new 
				energy entering our solar system would be one of four 
				possibilities as far as my research seems to suggest. 
					
					
					A large influx in potential 
					energy coming from the swarming of comets in ... our Solar 
					system and imparting massive amounts of energy (though this 
					would have to be a huge number of comets as I don't believe 
					they can account for the sheer amounts of new energy 
					bombarding our planet system if unless their numbers are 
					scarily high).
					
					A massive upsurge in activity 
					from the Sun (although as I'm aware we are now in somewhat 
					of a solar minimum according to the experts I've been 
					reading up on).
					
					A previously unknown or 
					undeclared sister star to our own sun bringing a whole gamut 
					of of gravitational wave anomalies and energies (which I 
					don't think we have experienced for a very long time in this 
					area of the cosmos).
					
					The Wave phenomenon that is 
					talked about in the Wave series of books on site and maybe 
					being affected by "the ripples in the pond" so to speak. 
					[...] 
				Maybe some scientists can claim 
				ignorance of the objective and easily seen facts as they are 
				[subjected to] social programming or [are] pressured or coerced 
				into looking in different areas for lack of funding in these 
				distinct areas of research.
 However I do believe that there is some level of knowledge about 
				the effects of the coming Wave, comets and companion star in the 
				scientific community, or at least those who are knowingly 
				working for "The Man Behind the Curtain".
 
 I say this due to the large number of 
				
				bunkers and underground 
				bases that have been found and talked about over the past few 
				decades. If the powers that be were really in the dark, then why 
				would they make such a concerted effort to hide the truth and to 
				build these types of structures to hide out in when the sky 
				comes crashing down around them.
 
				  
				I think they have a good idea 
				what this all means for us here on the Big Blue Marble, and that 
				it may be part of a greater plan to program the masses into 
				thinking us humans are responsible for all of this. ...
 That may sound to some like a very absurd thought I know, but it 
				would explain all this programming vis-a-vis the MSM about how 
				we are all at fault for not doing enough to save our planet. ...
 
 Does anyone have any other theories on why there is so much of a 
				hullabaloo being made about human induced global warming?
 
			I responded to these comments as 
			follows: 
				
				Well, let's face it, back before 
				911, we were just having a good time on Saturday nights drinking 
				coffee and eating cookies and chatting with the C's about this 
				stuff; it wasn't real, it was all just theoretical.  
				  
				Of course we 
				were pretty sure that dark and ugly deeds were being done behind 
				the scenes, there was enough evidence for it; but the scenario 
				the C's presented - that things would be like they were in Nazi 
				Germany, only globally, was just "out there."
 I don't think anybody was able to really imagine how we would 
				get from there... to here.
 
 But we sure 
				know NOW how they did it: 9/11. It was all over in a 
				couple of hours, all the rest is just detail.
 
 I think the rest of the stuff is going to be like that. One day 
				it will all be theoretical and we will have no idea HOW it could 
				possibly get from here to there, and then the next day, we will 
				be THERE.
 
 C's said "sudden glacial rebound..." Nobody seems to be thinking 
				about that. They just talk about it getting hotter and hotter. 
				Well, what if hotter just precedes suddenly colder? I think of 
				the mammoth in Siberia that was found with undigested buttercups 
				in its stomach. It was flash frozen almost instantly.
 
 The thing is, the evidence that it has happened (and more than 
				once) is available all around us not only in the geological and 
				archaeological record, but also in myths and legends. But for 
				most people, it is so easy to just brush all that off and 
				interpret it bass-ackwards, and that's what they do. The problem 
				is, I don't believe that the "experts" are that stupid.
 
 Meanwhile, the C's tell us stuff - no hard dates because there 
				are too many variables and the future IS open - and it happens 
				just as they say, so we get the idea that the rest of it is 
				probably going to happen also, we just don't know when.
 
 We live in probably the most interesting times of the past 6 
				thousand years.
 
			After that, the thread went quiet for 
			awhile until just the other day when another forum member, Lynne, 
			posted a follow-up: 
				
				There is a man, named 
				
				Robert Felix, 
				a former architect, that has been researching the ice age cycle, 
				full time, since 1991. He claims that an ice age could start at 
				any time. He cites the fact that as the ice melts at the poles 
				the fresh water mixes with the salt water of the oceans.  
				  
				This 
				can stop the Gulf Stream from flowing as far north as it does 
				now. If that happens, the temperate climate being experienced by 
				the northern latitudes would be gone and an ice age would start. 
				Of course, I am just remembering this from what I heard on a 
				radio show. There is, naturally, a lot more to it than that.
 And he keeps repeating,
 
					
					"It's a cycle, it's a cycle, it's a 
				cycle."  
				So maybe he is on to the same thing that the C's were 
				talking about?
				So there is at least one [other] person going with this idea, 
				and I think I have heard other comments here and there about it, 
				too.  
			After reading the post, I decided to 
			check the "iceagenow" link just to see what it was all about. I 
			didn't know I was going to uncover an odd mystery.    
			The first thing I found was the 
			following:   
				
				Global-warming skeptics continue to punch 
				away by
				Joel Achenbach
 The Washington Post
 June 05, 2006
 
 WASHINGTON - It should be glorious to be Bill Gray, professor 
				emeritus. He's the guy who predicts the number of hurricanes 
				that will form during the coming tropical-storm season. He works 
				in the atmospheric-science department of Colorado State 
				University. He's mentored dozens of scientists.
 
 But he's also outraged.
 
 Much of his government funding has dried up. He has had to put 
				his own money, more than $100,000, into keeping his research 
				going. If none of his colleagues comes to his funeral, he says, 
				that'll be evidence that he had the courage to say what they 
				were afraid to admit.
 
 Which is this: Global warming is a hoax.
 
			Actually, that is not exactly what Bill 
			Gray is saying. He is only saying that it is a hoax the way it is 
			presented.  
				
				He has testified about this to the 
				U.S. Senate. He has written magazine articles, given speeches, 
				done everything he could to get the message out. 
					
					"I've been in meteorology over 50 years. I've worked damn hard, 
				and I've been around. My feeling is some of us older guys who've 
				been around have not been asked about this. It's sort of a 
				baby-boomer, yuppie thing." 
				Gray believes in observations. Direct measurements. Numerical 
				models can't be trusted.  
				  
				Equation pushers with fancy computers 
				aren't the equals of scientists who fly into hurricanes. 
					
					"Few people know what I know. I've been in the tropics, I've 
				flown in airplanes into storms. I've done studies of convection, 
				cloud clusters and how the moist process works. I don't think 
				anybody in the world understands how the atmosphere functions 
				better than me." 
				In just three, five, maybe eight years, he says, the world will 
				begin to cool again. 
				  
				  
				
				
				
				 
				Ice everywhere in 
				3, 5 or 8 years, minimum?  
				 
 
				He is almost desperate to be heard. 
				His time is short. He is 76 years old.  
			Now, notice that this Washington Times 
			reporter writes so casually "the world will begin to cool again," as 
			though he was talking about a fresh breeze that wafts gently over 
			the sweat beaded forehead. If that is the case, if it is just a 
			breeze, why is Bill Gray so desperate to be heard? Why has he spent 
			100 K of his own money on his research?    
			Well, let's continue with the article:
			 
				  
				The case for warming
 Human beings are pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, 
				warming the planet in the process.
 
 Since the dawn of the industrial era, atmospheric carbon dioxide 
				has risen from about 280 to about 380 parts per million. In the 
				past century, the average surface temperature of Earth has 
				warmed about 1 degree Fahrenheit. Much of that warming has been 
				in the past three decades.
 
 Regional effects can be more dramatic: The Arctic is melting at 
				an alarming rate. Arctic sea ice is 40 percent thinner than it 
				was in the 1970s. Glaciers in Greenland are speeding up as they 
				slide toward the sea. A recent report shows 
				
				Antarctica losing as 
				much as 36 cubic miles of ice a year.
 
 The permafrost is melting across broad swaths of Alaska, Canada 
				and Siberia. Tree-devouring beetles, common in the American 
				Southwest, are suddenly ravaging the evergreens of British 
				Columbia. Coral reefs are bleaching, scalded by overheated 
				tropical waters. There appear to have been more strong 
				hurricanes and cyclones in recent decades.
 
 The 1990s were the warmest decade on record. The year 1998 set 
				the all-time mark.
 
				  
				This decade is on its way to setting a new 
				standard.  
				  
				The United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate 
				Change (IPCC), a global effort involving hundreds of climate 
				scientists, projected in 2001 that, depending on the rate of 
				greenhouse-gas emissions and general climate sensitivities, the 
				global average temperature would rise 2.5 to 10.4 degrees 
				Fahrenheit between 1990 and 2100. Sea levels could rise just a 
				few inches, or nearly three feet.
 All of the above is part of the emerging, solidifying scientific 
				consensus on global warming.
 
			Now, notice that, in the above scenario, 
			we have some definite problems laid out - but most of it will happen 
			gradually, and we have about 90 years to see it all play out: until 
			2100. It's all rather "iffy," too, even if they are certain that 
			things are going to warm up.    
			Now the journalist goes on the attack: 
				  
				The skeptics' view
 When you step into the realm of the skeptics, you find yourself 
				on a parallel Earth.
 
				 It is a planet where global warming isn't happening - or, if it 
				is happening, isn't happening because of human beings. Or, if it 
				is happening because of human beings, isn't going to be a big 
				problem.
 
				  
				 And, even if it is a big problem, we can't 
				realistically do anything about it other than adapt.  
			Only in the last sentence does this 
			journalist come anywhere close to the truth. But notice how cleverly 
			he has concealed the problem?  
				
				There is no consensus on global 
				warming, they say. There is only abundant uncertainty. The IPCC 
				process is a sham, a mechanism for turning vague scientific 
				statements into headline-grabbing alarmism. 
				 
				  
				Drastic actions such 
				as mandated cuts in carbon emissions would be imprudent. 
				 
			More twisting and distortion. 
			 
				
				Alternative sources of energy are 
				fine, they say, but let's not be naive. We are an 
				energy-intensive civilization. To obtain the kind of energy we 
				need, we must burn fossil fuels. We must emit carbon. That's the 
				real world.  
			Well, in this sense, the journalist is 
			repeating the view taken by the Bush Reich Science which has little 
			or nothing at all to do with the real science!  
			  
			Interesting how he 
			mixes it all together.  
				
				Since the late 1980s, when oil, gas, 
				coal, auto and chemical companies formed the Global Climate 
				Coalition, industries have poured millions of dollars into a 
				campaign to discredit the emerging global-warming consensus.  
				  
				The 
				coalition disbanded a few years ago, but the skeptic community 
				remains.
 Many skeptics work in think tanks, such as the George C. 
				Marshall Institute or the National Center for Policy Analysis. 
				They have the ear of leaders in the White House and on Capitol 
				Hill.
 
				  
				The skeptics helped scuttle any possibility that the 
				United States would ratify the Kyoto treaty that would have 
				committed the nation to cuts in greenhouse-gas emissions.  
				  
				(Conservatives object to the treaty for, among other things, not 
				requiring reductions by developing nations such as China and 
				India.)  
			Notice how this journalist has lumped 
			the scientists in with the political skeptics as though they were 
			all saying the same thing.  
			  
			They are not, and that is what this is 
			all about. There is a huge difference between saying that "Global 
			Warming as it is being presented to the public is a hoax" and "there 
			is no Global Warming." 
			  
			There definitely IS Global Warming and 
			Bill 
			Gray has never said that things weren't getting warmer.  
				
				The skeptics point to the 
				global-temperature graph for the past century. Notice how, after 
				rising steadily in the early 20th century, in 1940 the 
				temperature suddenly levels off. No - it goes down! For the next 
				35 years!  
				  
				If the planet is getting steadily warmer because of 
				Industrial Age greenhouse gases, why did it get cooler when 
				industries began belching out carbon dioxide at full tilt at the 
				start of World War II?  
				 Now look at the ice in Antarctica: Getting thicker in places!
 
 Sea-level rise? It's actually dropping around certain islands in 
				the Pacific and Indian oceans.
 
 There are all these ... anomalies. [...]
 
			Did you catch those last remarks?  
			  
			The 
			journalist is quoting - out of context, I should add - several 
			results of scientific studies.  
			  
			But we are going to discover that 
			these admissions he has made above - that the Antarctic Ice was 
			getting THICKER and the sea-level is actually dropping - concern 
			information that is going to get very tricky!
 Notice also that this article, quite critical of the "no global 
			warming" stance that has been taken by 
			
			the Bush Administration, was 
			published in the clearly Right-wing Washington Post, one of the most 
			Administration sychophantic rags on the market!
 
			  
			What is up with 
			that?!
 I also noticed that Robert Felix, the "iceagenow.com" guy, added a 
			comment about this article accusing the Post writer of being a 
			LEFTY!!!
 
				
				Unfortunately - and despicably - 
				this article, which supposedly reports the skeptics arguments, 
				now veers off to the left, accusing Dr. Gray of being on the 
				"fringe," and dismissing him and M.I.T. professor Richard Lindzen as being just simply part of the minority "Old Guard." 
				 
				  
				The article conveniently ignores the fact that 60 international 
				climate-change experts recently signed an open letter to 
				Canada's Prime Minister disavowing the "fact" of global warming.
				 
			Sometimes I think we've really lost the 
			idea of what the Right and the Left actually represent. Seems to me 
			that the terms have been severely ponerized and even have become 
			"doublespeak."
 Anyway, next there is this from the iceagenow site:
 
				
				I first published this forecast by 
				Dr. Landscheidt in 2003. 
				 
				  
				However, with the recent reported 
				cooling of the Atlantic Ocean, and with the first reversed 
				sunspot of what may be the beginning of the next solar cycle, 
				and with Russian scientists predicting a new Little Ice Age, I 
				thought it would be an appropriate time to give more credit to 
				Dr. Landscheidt. He had been predicting this scenario for years.
				   
				Here's what Dr. Landscheidt had to 
				say:      
				
				New Little Ice Age by 2030!
 Analysis of the sun's activity in the last two millennia 
				indicates that, contrary to the IPCC's speculation about 
				man-made global warming, that we could be headed into a Maunder 
				minimum type of climate (a Little Ice Age).
 
 The probability is high that the minima around 2030 and 2201 
				will go along with periods of cold climate comparable to the 
				nadir of the Little Ice Age, and La Niña will be more frequent 
				and stronger than El Niño through 2018 (Landscheidt, 2000).
 
 We need not wait until 2030 to see whether the forecast is 
				correct, however. A declining trend in solar activity and global 
				temperature should become manifest long before then.
 
				  
				The current 
				11-year sunspot cycle 23 with its considerably weaker activity 
				seems to be a first indication of the new trend, especially as 
				it was predicted on the basis of solar motion cycles two decades 
				ago. As to temperature, only El Niño periods should interrupt 
				the downward trend, but even El Niño should become less 
				frequent and strong.
 The total magnetic flux leaving the Sun has risen by a factor of 
				2.3 since 1901 while global temperature on earth increased by 
				about 0.6°C. Energetic flares increased the Sun's ultraviolet 
				radiation by at least 16 percent. There is a clear connection 
				between solar eruptions and a strong rise in temperature.
 
 Lake bottom cores from the Yukatan Peninsula covering more than 
				2,000 years show a similar correlation between recurrent 
				droughts and the Sun's eruptional activity. These results and 
				many earlier ones (Landscheidt, 1981-2001) document the 
				importance of the Sun's eruptional activity on climate.
 
 Energetic solar eruptions do not accumulate around the sunspot 
				maximum. In most cycles they shun the maximum phase and can even 
				occur close to a sunspot minimum.
 
 I (Landscheidt) have shown for decades that the sun's varying 
				activity is linked to cycles in its irregular oscillation about 
				the centre of mass of the solar system (the solar retrograde 
				cycle). As these cycles are connected with climate phenomena and 
				can be computed for centuries, they offer a means to forecast 
				phases of cool and warm climate.
 
 Researchers need to take the sun seriously as a factor in 
				climate change, including warming, droughts, and cold snaps.
 
				  
				  
				
				 
				How the Ice Age 
				will affect North America  
				  
			The C's, of course, say the same things: 
			that it is the Sun - and it's companion - that are mostly 
			responsible for Climate Change.  
			  
			To continue, Robert Felix writes: 
				
				I'm sorry to report that Dr. Theodor Landscheidt passed away on May 20, 2004. Founder of the 
				Schroeter Institute for Research in Cycles of Solar Activity in Waldmuenchen, Germany, Dr. Landscheidt was a giant in the field 
				of climatology.    
				Here's what I published in 2003: 
					
					Dr. Landscheidt, author of "Sun 
					- Earth - Man: A Mesh of Cosmic Oscillations", and "Cosmic 
					Cybernetics: The Foundations of a Modern Astrology," based 
					his forecast on the Gleissberg cycle of solar activity.
 "Contrary to the IPCC's speculation about man-made global 
					warming as high as 5.8° C within the next hundred years," 
					said Landscheidt, "a long period of cool climate with its 
					coldest phase around 2030 is to be expected."
 
 It can be seen," added Landscheidt, "that the Gleissberg 
					minimum around 2030 and another one around 2200 will be of 
					the Maunder minimum type accompanied by severe cooling on 
					Earth." (Posted 19 Sep 2003)
 
				This confirms what I've been saying 
				all along; that our climate is controlled by magnetic activity 
				on the sun.
 It also makes my assertion that "we'll be admitting that we're 
				headed into an ice age by the year 
				2012" seem a lot more 
				plausible.
 
 Landscheidt's forecasts include the end of the great Sahelian 
				drought; the last five extremes in global temperature anomalies; 
				the last three El Niño; and the course of the last La Niña. He 
				predicted extreme River Po discharges beginning in October 2000, 
				some seven months before they began.
 
 This forecast skill, says Landscheidt, solely based on solar 
				cycles, is irreconcilable with the IPCC's allegation that it is 
				unlikely that natural forcing can explain the warming in the 
				latter half of the 20th century.
 
 The current 11-year sunspot cycle 23 with its considerably 
				weaker activity seems to be a first indication of the new trend, 
				especially as it was predicted on the basis of solar motion 
				cycles two decades ago.
 
			This last surprised me. I was under the 
			impression that the last sunspot cycle was considerably stronger and 
			more active than predicted. Again, a forum member dug up some data. 
			You can read it HERE.
 Anyway, let me continue. The main thing that grabbed my attention in 
			all of the above was the claim that the ice sheet on Antarctica was 
			actually growing since all we have heard via the media is "melting, 
			melting, melting". Along with this was the surprising claim that the 
			sea levels were falling instead of rising as was predicted by the 
			Global Warming Scenario. Where did these things come from? Sez who?
 
 I went digging.
 
 One of the first things I found was the following:
 
 
				
				Antarctic Ice Sheet Mass Balance
 Reference
 Wingham, D.J., Shepherd, A., Muir, A. and Marshall, G.J. 2006. 
				Mass balance of the Antarctic ice sheet. Philosophical 
				Transactions of the Royal Society A 364: 1627-1635.
 
 What was done
 The authors "analyzed 1.2 x 108 European remote sensing 
				satellite altimeter echoes to determine the changes in volume of 
				the Antarctic ice sheet from 1992 to 2003." This survey, in 
				their words, "covers 85% of the East Antarctic ice sheet and 51% 
				of the West Antarctic ice sheet," which together comprise "72% 
				of the grounded ice sheet.""
 
 What was learned
 Wingham et al. report that "overall, the data, corrected for 
				isostatic rebound, show the ice sheet growing at 5 ± 1 mm 
				year-1." To calculate the ice sheet's change in mass, however,
 
					
					"requires knowledge of the density at which the volume changes 
				have occurred," and when the researchers' best estimates of 
				regional differences in this parameter are used, they find that 
				"72% of the Antarctic ice sheet is gaining 27 ± 29 Gt year-1, a 
				sink of ocean mass sufficient to lower global sea levels by 0.08 
				mm year-1."  
				This net extraction of water from the global ocean, 
				according to Wingham et al., occurs because "mass gains from 
				accumulating snow, particularly on the Antarctic Peninsula and 
				within East Antarctica, exceed the ice dynamic mass loss from 
				West Antarctica." 
 What it means
 Contrary to all the horror stories one hears about global 
				warming-induced mass wastage of the Antarctic ice sheet leading 
				to rising sea levels that gobble up coastal lowlands worldwide, 
				the most recent decade of pertinent real-world data suggest that 
				forces leading to just the opposite effect are apparently 
				prevailing, even in the face of what climate alarmists typically 
				describe as the greatest warming of the world in the past two 
				millennia or more.
 
 Reviewed
 
				8 November 2006  
			Notice the date: last November.  
			  
			Notice 
			what it says: 
				
				the Antarctic Ice Sheet is actually growing!!!
				 
			What's 
			more, it is doing this at the expense of the global sea level! Aside 
			from the fact that all we are hearing is "melting ice! melting 
			ice!", how can the ice sheet be growing if it is getting hotter? And 
			we ALL KNOW IT IS! So, how can this be?
 Well, there's an answer:
 
				  
				Global warming boost to glaciers
 Global warming could be causing some glaciers to grow, a new 
				study claims.
 
				  
				  
				
				
				
				 
				Glacier  
				 
 
				Researchers at Newcastle University 
				looked at temperature trends in the western Himalaya over the 
				past century. They found warmer winters and cooler summers, 
				combined with more snow and rainfall, could be causing some 
				mountain glaciers to increase in size. [...]  
			On the NASA website, I discovered that 
			the scientists there have been mapping this for some time now. The 
			data is published, it's just not promoted actively. And, in many 
			cases, it is phrased so that the important factors are minimized, if 
			not actually buried..
 
				
				Antarctic Temperature Trend 1982-2004 
 Cold, snowy, and stuck at the "bottom of the Earth, Antarctica 
				might seem like a dull place. But this big continent can produce 
				a surprisingly dynamic range of conditions. One example of this 
				range is temperature trends.
 
				  
				Although Antarctica warmed around 
				the perimeter from 1982 to 2004, where huge icebergs calved and 
				some ice shelves disintegrated, it cooled closer to the pole. 
				  
				  
				
				
				
				 
				NASA See how much of Antarctica is colder and how little is actually 
				warming.
 
				 
 
				This image shows trends in skin 
				temperatures-temperatures from roughly the top millimeter of the 
				land or sea surface-not air temperatures.  
				  
				The data were 
				collected by the Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer (AVHRR) 
				sensors that were flown on several National Oceanic and 
				Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) satellites.  
				  
				The data come from 
				the AVHRR's thermal infrared channel-a portion of the light 
				spectrum we can sense as heat but that human eyes cannot see. 
				This image shows temperature trends for the icy continent from 
				1982 to 2004. Red indicates areas where temperatures generally 
				increased during that period, and blue shows where temperatures 
				predominantly decreased.
 The area of strongest cooling appears at the South Pole, and the 
				region of strongest warming lies along the Antarctic Peninsula. 
				In some instances, bright red spots or streaks along the edge of 
				the continent show where icebergs calved or ice shelves 
				disintegrated, meaning the satellite began seeing warmer ocean 
				water where there had previously been ice.
 
				  
				One example of this 
				is the bright red line along the edge of the Ross Ice Shelf.
 
				Why is Antarctica getting colder in 
				the middle when it's warming up around the edge?
 
 One possible explanation is that the warmer temperatures in the 
				surrounding ocean have produced more precipitation in the 
				continent's interior, and this increased snowfall has cooled the 
				high-altitude region around the pole. Another possible 
				explanation involves ozone. Ozone in the Earth's stratosphere 
				absorbs ultraviolet radiation, and absorbing this energy warms 
				the stratosphere.
 
				  
				Loss of UV-absorbing ozone may have cooled the 
				stratosphere and strengthened the polar vortex, a pattern of 
				spinning winds around the South Pole. The vortex acts like an 
				atmospheric barrier, preventing warmer, coastal air from moving 
				in to the continent's interior. A stronger polar vortex might 
				explain the cooling trend in the interior of Antarctica. 
				 
			Then, from Nature.com comes a piece that 
			gives an excellent example of talking out of both sides of the mouth 
			at once:
 
				
				Increased snowfall could slow sea-level 
				riseby Mark Peplow
 19 May 2005
 
 Increased snowfall over a large area of Antarctica is thickening 
				the ice sheet and slowing the rise in sea level caused by 
				melting ice.
 
 A satellite survey shows that between 1992 and 2003, the East 
				Antarctic ice sheet gained about 45 billion tonnes of ice - 
				enough to reduce the oceans' rise by 0.12 millimeters per year. 
				The ice sheets that cover Antarctica's bedrock are several 
				kilometers thick in places, and contain about 90% of the world's 
				ice.
 
				  
				But scientists fear that if they melt in substantial 
				quantities, this will swell the oceans and cause devastation on 
				islands and coastal lands. 
			Notice how they give with one hand and 
			take with the other:  
				
				"scientists FEAR..."
				 
			Never mind that they have 
			just said that the East Antarctic ice sheet gained 45 billion tons 
			of ice. 
				
				The Intergovernmental Panel on 
				Climate Change (IPCC) has reported that sea level is currently 
				rising at about 1.8 millimeters per year, largely through 
				melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets as a result of 
				global warming.  
				  
				But the panel also expected that climate change 
				would trigger an increase in snowfall over the Antarctic 
				continent, as increased evaporation from the oceans puts more 
				moisture into the air. 
					
					"This is a phenomenal piece of research, but it is what we 
				expected, " comments David Vaughan, a glaciologist at the 
				British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge, UK. "These effects have 
				been predicted for a long time, it's just that no one has 
				measured them before." 
				Although the results of the satellite survey are in line with 
				the predictions of global-warming models, the thickening of the 
				ice sheet could still be explained by natural weather 
				variability, warns Curt Davis of the University of Missouri, 
				Columbia, a member of the research team.  
				  
				He and his colleagues 
				present their results in the online edition of Science.
 
				Remote view
 
 The team used data from the European Space Agency's radar 
				satellites ERS-1 and ERS-2, which measured changes in altitude 
				over about 70% of Antarctica's interior - more than 8.5 million 
				square kilometers, roughly the same size as the United States.
 
 East Antarctica thickened at an average rate of about 1.8 
				centimeters per year over the time period studied, the 
				researchers discovered.
 
				  
				The region comprises about 75% of 
				Antarctica's total land area - but as its ice is thicker, it 
				carries about 85% of the total ice volume.  
					
					"It is the only large 
				terrestrial ice body that is gaining mass rather than losing 
				it," says Davis. 
					  
				
				
				
				 
				On top of an 
				iceberg.  
				 
 
				In contrast, smaller West Antarctica 
				showed an overall thinning of 0.9 centimeters per year.  
					
					"It's 
				amazing that they can measure such small changes," says Vaughan. 
			Yeah, it sure is amazing. And notice 
			how, just above, the "small changes" are supposed to be responsible 
			for the reported rise of the sea levels by 1.8 millimeters per year. 
			I think we just caught them in a lie.    
			But we'll come to that.
 
				
				Thick skin
 The thickening of the eastern ice sheet should not be seen as a 
				long-term protection against a rise in sea level, warns Vaughan. 
				Glaciers in West Antarctica are accelerating, releasing more and 
				more icebergs into the sea.
 
				  
				And the Antarctic Peninsula, which 
				stretches towards South America, now regularly hits temperatures 
				above 0 °C in the summer, leading to direct melting of the ice 
				there.  
			The reader should already understand how 
			totally absurd the above remarks are. If you don't, you soon will.
			 
				
				What's more, snowfall over East 
				Antarctica will not continue to increase indefinitely in a 
				warming world, Vaughan adds.  
				  
				Conversely, every extra degree of 
				temperature rise will continue to accelerate glaciers and cause 
				more melting on the western side of Antarctica, swelling the 
				world's oceans further.  
			Notice above that, even though they say 
			that increased warming increases precipitation (snowfall), that 
			somehow, there is a "cut-off point"??!! That it will not increase 
			indefinitely?    
			Where is the logic here?  
				
				Scientists have already estimated 
				that Antarctic melting may be responsible for up to a third of 
				the overall sea-level rise.  
				  
				But the instruments on ERS-1 and 2 
				only work over very flat areas, and tend to lose track of the 
				radar echo over steeper areas around the continent's coast, so a 
				vital piece of the puzzle is still missing, says Vaughan. And 
				because Antarctica is so vast, it is also impossible to measure 
				snowfall comprehensively on the ground, he adds.
 However, the European Space Agency satellite CryoSat, due to be 
				launched later this year, should be able to make very accurate 
				altitude measurements around the coast, providing evidence of 
				exactly how much ice is being lost there.
 
				  
				Only when scientists 
				put all these measurements together will the full truth about 
				Antarctica's ice become clear, says Vaughan.  
			Notice how the above article is not just 
			a "spin" on the situation, but seems to contain outright lies - 
			direct contradictions of other facts already presented.  
			  
			Notice also 
			the remark about the coming CryoSat. This did not initially grab my 
			attention. It was only after I continued to dig that this remark 
			about the possibility of knowing the truth about Antarctica's ice 
			became important - and even scary!
 The next item directly contradicted the above article's claims about 
			the melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet. It was posted, in part, on 
			the iceagenow website.
 
 
				
				Greenland icecap growing thicker
 20 Oct 2005 - Greenland 's ice-cap has thickened slightly in 
				recent years despite wide predictions of a thaw, scientists said 
				today.
 
				  
				Satellite measurements show that more snowfall is 
				thickening the ice-cap, especially at high altitudes, according 
				to the report in the journal Science. 
					
					"The overall ice thickness changes are ... approximately plus 5 
				cms (1.9 inches) a year or 54 cms (21.26 inches) over 11 years," 
				according to the experts at Norwegian, Russian and U.S. 
				institutes led by Ola Johannessen at the Mohn Sverdrup center 
				for Global Ocean Studies and Operational Oceanography in Norway. 
				[...] 
				See more of this article
				
				HERE. See also
				
				HERE.  
			This is where things began to get very 
			squirrelly. The first link is to a Reuters article which, for some 
			reason, has completely disappeared. I mean, there's not even a 
			Google cache of it. Nothing.
 The second link is to a CNN report on the Reuters article. It also 
			has disappeared. Go ahead, click the links...
 
 Doing a search for the articles missing from Reuters and CNN I found 
			only a
			
			blog mention:
 
				
				October 23, 2005Greenland ice cap thickens slightly
 
 Thought you'd like this one:
 
					
					Greenland's ice cap has thickened slightly in recent years 
				despite wide predictions of a thaw triggered by global warming, 
				a team of scientists said on Thursday. 
				Read more from this blogger: 
				
				Greenland ice cap thickens slightly
				 
			The last link is to "newsclipping.co.uk". 
			Wow! It looked like I might actually find the whole article!
 Guess again.
 
				
				Error 404
 The page you are looking for does not exist; it may have been 
				moved, or removed altogether. You might want to try the search 
				function.
 
				  
				Alternatively, return to the front page. 
				  
				  
				
					
						| 
						
 Greenland ice cap thickens 
						slightly
 Monday, 
						October 24, 2005;
 
						Posted: 10:41 a.m. EDT 
						(14:41 GMT) 
						from
						
						TheBigThaw-GuerrillaNewsNetwork 
						Website 
						  
						OSLO, Norway (Reuters) — Greenland’s ice cap has 
						thickened slightly in recent years despite wide 
						predictions of a thaw triggered by global warming, a 
						team of scientists said on Thursday.
 
						The 9,842-feet thick ice cap is a key concern in debates 
						about climate change because a total melt would raise 
						world sea levels by about 7 meters. And a runaway thaw 
						might slow the Gulf Stream that keeps the North Atlantic 
						region warm.
 But satellite measurements showed that more snow was 
						falling and thickening the ice cap, especially at high 
						altitudes, according to the report in the journal 
						Science.
 
						Glaciers at sea level have been retreating fast because 
						of a warming climate, making many other scientists 
						believe the entire ice cap was thinning.
 
							
							“The overall ice 
							thickness changes are … approximately plus 1.9 
							inches a year or 21.26 inches over 11 years,” 
							according to the experts at Norwegian, Russian and 
							U.S. institutes led by Ola Johannessen at the Mohn 
							Sverdrup center for Global Ocean Studies and 
							Operational Oceanography in Norway. 
						However, they said that 
						the thickening seemed consistent with theories of global 
						warming, blamed by most experts on a build-up of 
						heat-trapping gases from burning fossil fuels in power 
						plants, factories and cars. 
						Warmer air, even if it is still below freezing, can 
						carry more moisture. That extra moisture falls as snow 
						below 32 Fahrenheit.
 And the scientists said that the thickening of the 
						ice-cap might be offset by a melting of glaciers around 
						the fringes of Greenland. Satellite data was not good 
						enough to measure the melt nearer sea level.
 
						Most models of global warming indicate that the 
						Greenland ice might melt within thousands of years if 
						warming continues.
 Oceans would rise by about 70 meters if the far bigger 
						ice-cap on Antarctica melted along with Greenland. 
						Antarctica’s vast size acts as a deep freeze likely to 
						slow any melt of the southern continent.
 
						The panel that advises the United Nations has predicted 
						that global sea levels might rise by almost a meter by 
						2100 because of a warming climate.
 
						Such a rise would swamp low-lying Pacific islands and 
						warming could trigger more hurricanes, droughts, spread 
						deserts and drive thousands of species to extinction.
 
						Still, a separate study in Science on Thursday said sea 
						levels were probably rising slightly because of a melt 
						of ice sheets.
 
							
							“Ice sheets now appear 
							to be contributing modestly to sea level rise 
							because warming has increased mass loss from coastal 
							areas more than warming has increased mass gain from 
							enhanced snowfall in cold central regions,” it said. 
							“Greenland presently makes the largest contribution 
							to sea level rise,” according to the report by 
							scientists led by Richard Alley of Pennsylvania 
							State University in the United States.
 
						Copyright 2005 Reuters. |  
			  
			  
			  
			It really bugs me when I think somebody 
			is hiding something. I know it might be "conspiracy minded" of me, 
			but I can't get over the feeling that there is an attempt to 
			sideline or seriously minimize particular (and important) 
			information here.  
			I was, finally, able to read the original article. Go 
			
			HERE to read a 
			version of the Science Journal article which one of our forum 
			members obtained and posted.
 Another forum member found a copy of the article on an Australian 
			news site.
   
			Funny that this didn't show up on Google 
			when I was searching!! 
				
				Greenland icecap thickens despite 
				warming
 Reuters
 Friday, 21 October 2005
 
 Greenland's icecap has thickened slightly in recent years 
				despite concerns that it is thawing out due to global warming, 
				says an international team of scientists.
 
 A team led by Professor Ola Johannessen, at the
				
				Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing 
				Center in Norway, report their findings online ahead 
				of print publication in the journal Science.
 
 The 3,000-metre thick Greenland icecap is a key concern in 
				debates about climate change because a total melt would raise 
				world sea levels by about 7 meters. And a runaway thaw might 
				slow the Gulf Stream that keeps the North Atlantic region warm.
 
 Glaciers at sea level have been retreating fast because of a 
				warming climate, making many other scientists believe the entire 
				icecap is thinning.
 
 But satellite measurements showed that more snowfall is falling 
				and thickening the icecap, especially at high altitudes, say 
				Johannessen and team.
 
					
					"The overall ice thickness changes are ... approximately plus 5 
					centimeters a year or 54 centimeters over 11 years." 
				But, they say, the thickening seems consistent with theories of 
				global warming, blamed by most experts on a build-up of 
				heat-trapping gases from burning fossil fuels in power plants, 
				factories and cars.
 Warmer air, even if it is still below freezing, can carry more 
				moisture. That extra moisture falls as snow below 0°C.
 
 And the scientists say that the thickening of the icecap might 
				be offset by a melting of glaciers around the fringes of 
				Greenland. Satellite data is not good enough to measure the melt 
				nearer sea level.
 
			So far, so good.    
			But then, the article veers off into the 
			disinformation that suggests that all we are going to have to deal 
			with is WARMING. 
 
				
				Ice sheets
 Most models of global warming indicate that the Greenland ice 
				might melt within thousands of years if warming continues.
				Oceans would rise by about 70 meters if the far bigger icecap on 
				Antarctica melted along with Greenland.
 
 Antarctica's vast size acts as a deep freeze likely to slow any 
				melt of the southern continent.
				The panel that advises the United Nations has predicted that 
				global sea levels might rise by almost a meter by 2100 because 
				of a warming climate.
 
 Such a rise would swamp low-lying Pacific islands and warming 
				could trigger more hurricanes, droughts, spread deserts and 
				drive thousands of species to extinction.
				Separate study supports sea level rise due to ice melt
 
 A separate study in today's issue of Science reports that sea 
				levels are probably rising slightly because of a melt of ice 
				sheets.
 
					
					"Ice sheets now appear to be contributing modestly to sea level 
				rise because warming has increased mass loss from coastal areas 
				more than warming has increased mass gain from enhanced snowfall 
				in cold central regions," the report by a team led by Professor 
					Richard Alley of Pennsylvania State University in the US says.
 "Greenland presently makes the largest contribution to sea level 
				rise."
 
			Yes, we know that Greenland is presently 
			melting like crazy around the edges. And that's the BIG problem as 
			we see from the following BBC special that was broadcast two years 
			earlier: 
				
				Greenland glacier advancing 7.2 
				miles per year! 
				  
				 The BBC recently ran a documentary, 
				The Big 
				Chill, saying that we could be on the verge of an ice age. 
				Britain could be heading towards an Alaskan-type climate within 
				a decade, say scientists, because the Gulf Stream is being 
				gradually cut off.  
				  
				The Gulf Stream keeps temperatures unusually 
				high for such a northerly latitude. 
				  
				  
				
				
				
				 
				Waiho-glacier  
				 
 
				One of Greenland's largest glaciers 
				has already doubled its rate of advance, moving forward at the 
				rate of 12 kilometers (7.2 miles) per year.  
				  
				To see a transcript 
				of the documentary, go to...
				
				The Big Chill 
 
			What is important is that there IS a 
			heating up of the planet, a Global Warming, which is causing a lot 
			of ice to melt.  
			  
			It is also causing a lot of evaporation which then 
			falls as snow in certain areas, and this put pressure on the ice 
			sheets and squeezes them outward so that they actually melt faster 
			around the edges. This adds a LOT of fresh water to the oceans. In 
			the Antarctic regions, it may not be so bad, but in the Arctic, it 
			is a building cataclysm.
 The implications are so huge that it is really no wonder that 
			
			the Bush Reich and others of the ruling elite are trying to shush it up 
			and convince people that it's just going to get hotter and we all 
			have to make sacrifices to try to slow it down. As if! Bush is 
			certainly right when he goes his merry way acting as if Global 
			warming is nothing. He might as well because he, and the rest of 
			them, know that there is nothing that anyone can do about it to stop 
			it.
 
			  
			That's a fact.  
			  
			And so, they continue to do the one thing that 
			they believe will save their own skins: continue to follow the plan 
			of imposing total control over everyone and everything so that when 
			the disasters fall fast and hard - as they will - the masses will be 
			controllable. And it certainly doesn't hurt to kill of as many as 
			they can get away with killing in advance; that many fewer mouths to 
			feed, doncha know?
 In short, the economic, political and national security implications 
			of sudden cataclysm are what is driving the political machine these 
			days. Britain is headed for a climate worse than Alaska's. And it 
			could be here sooner than anyone expects.
 
 An ice age is one of the Great Forces of Nature. They are dynamic 
			and destructive. Massive glaciers form and begin to march across the 
			land destroying and grinding up everything in their path. They can 
			fill valleys, grind rocks to nothing and reduce the height of 
			mountains. They wipe the land clean. Vast stretches of the earth are 
			buried in a literal tomb of ice.
 
 Preserved in the ice of Greenland is an ancient thermometer, a 
			record of the climate of the earth for a very long time. The ice 
			records traces of disasters and pollution, acids from volcanoes, 
			lead refining residue from Roman times, and so on. But most 
			important of all there is a record of the temperature which can be 
			read by determining how much heavy water is locked in the ice. The 
			rule is: the more heavy water, the warmer the climate.
 
 And so, researchers obtained cores of the Greenland ice and began to 
			examine and analyze them. Based on the conventional rules about 
			climate change that are being promoted by the Global Warming due to 
			human activities, they should have seen slow changes in the heavy 
			water evidence in the ice cores as the world warmed and cooled.
 
 But that's not what they found.
 
 Instead, they found that temperatures can drop suddenly and 
			catastrophically. And it has happened many times. 
			The change can come as fast as turning off a light.
 
 Professor Wally Broecker of Columbia University became convinced 
			that the driver was the ocean. Because of the profound climate 
			changes that had been recorded in Britain, Broecker focused on the 
			gulf stream. Britain's mild climate is due to the heat of the Gulf 
			Stream. Without the Gulf Stream, it would be like the frozen North 
			of Alaska.
 
 The Gulf Stream begins south of the equator and as it flows around 
			the gulf of Mexico it absorbs heat from the tropics which it then 
			carries with it North, to Britain. Scientists estimate that the Gulf 
			Stream carries the heat of a million power stations.
 
			  
			This heat 
			enables Brits to swim in waters at the same latitudes that Canada 
			has polar bears. 
			  
			  
			
			 
			A diagram of the Gulf 
			Stream conveyor and related currents.  
			 
 
			The most important thing about the Gulf 
			Stream is that, at the end of its journey North, it sinks.  
			  
			It sinks 
			because it cools and becomes denser. And once it cools and sinks, 
			the flowing continues, only in the other direction. In other words, 
			it is like a Global radiator, a constantly circulating flow of warm 
			water that carries the heat up to the northern latitudes.  
			  
			And the 
			sinking and flowing the other way is crucial. 
			  
			  
			
			
			
			 
			This image shows how 
			England, Western Europe and Scandinavia  
			are bathed in the heat of 
			the Gulf Stream  
			 
 
			The question that Wally Broecker asked 
			himself was:  
				
				"What would happen if this conveyor 
				stopped? 
			Although many scientists had never 
			thought about this, and believed that the established currents of 
			the oceans never changed, other evidence was forthcoming that this 
			had happened - more than once.   
			 
			  
			This evidence was found in mud core 
			samples from the bottom of the ocean. In other words, at various 
			times in the past the conveyor switched off. And when the conveyor 
			switched off, Britain - and the whole northern region that benefits 
			from the Gulf Stream - froze.
 So, what does the shutting off of the conveyor have to do with 
			Global Warming?
 
 Climate experts are predicting temperatures to rise faster than at 
			any time since the last ice age. The models that scientists are 
			using (as described above), all suggest that in a hundred years, 
			we'll experience warming of about 1.5 to 6 degrees. The Earth hasn't 
			been that warm in hundreds of thousands - or millions - of years! We 
			can all see and feel the effects of global warming. Everyone is 
			talking about how to prepare for hotter weather and all the 
			attendant extremes.
 
 For example, among the main topics covered by the "experts" are that 
			Global Warming will increase winter rains in Britain causing 
			flooding. There will be things like tropical cyclones much further 
			north. It is this sort of thing that the governments are preparing 
			people to consider and expect.
 
 But all of these experts are not considering the factor that Global 
			Warming may very well be the switch that turns the conveyor - the 
			Gulf Stream - OFF.
 
 Greenland is one of the biggest ice-cubes in the world. It consists 
			of enough water to raise the sea level by about six or seven meters 
			if it melted completely.
 
 And indeed, it IS melting. The equivalent of fifty cubic kilometers 
			of ice and snow disappear from Greenland each year - around the 
			edges, that is. That is the same as fifty gigo-tons of water. And it 
			is accelerating. Less than five years ago, one of the Greenland 
			glaciers was moving at about six, seven kilometers per year. And 
			that was more or less in balance with the snowfall. Now in the five 
			years since then the speed is almost doubled. It was advancing at 12 
			kilometers per year in 2003. In 2005, it was moving 15 kilometers 
			per year. And certainly, the increase is due to "Global Warming."
 
 The problem is that the increase means that a hundred cubic 
			kilometers of fresh water is being dumped into the ocean per year 
			and that fresh water is flowing towards the sinking zone of the 
			conveyor.
 
 Wally Broecker and his associates began to wonder just what could be 
			the effect of all that fresh water on the conveyor.
 
			  
			They began to 
			realize that because the conveyor was driven by the salty water 
			sinking, too much fresh water would dilute the salt and if the salt 
			was diluted too much the conveyor would not sink. The possibility is 
			that a 1 percent change in the salinity of the water - at the moment 
			that point is reached - could tip the balance; the water would be 
			too fresh to sink and the conveyor - the Gulf Stream - would stop. 
			 
			  
			Just like that. 
			  
			  
			
			
			
			 
			Gulf Stream Temps and 
			Chlorophyll Concentration 
 
			  
			What's worse is that it isn't just the 
			Greenland ice sheet that is pouring fresh water into the ocean where 
			the conveyer sinks and reverses direction: Global warming leads to a 
			wetter world because warm air holds more moisture. When that 
			moisture heads north and cools, there will be more rain.  
			  
			And if that 
			rain accompanies a big system such as a hurricane, it can be a very 
			great amount indeed!
 At the same time, there are some very big rivers in Siberia dumping 
			fresh water into the polar regions. If those rivers increase in size 
			due to increased rainfall in Siberia, there can be an increase in 
			annual discharge of a hundred and twenty eight cubic kilometers of 
			fresh water per year.
 
			  
			With the current rate at which the atmosphere 
			is heating, we are facing a horrifying prospect of a fifty percent 
			increase in some of the world's biggest rivers.  
				
				A "vast wall of 
			fresh water will soon come flooding through northern Siberia. An 
			extra thousand cubic kilometers a year more could flow in to the 
			salty waters of the conveyor." 
			Dr. Bill Turrell has been monitoring the saltiness of the Gulf 
			Stream as it flows past the Faro Isles north of Scotland. If the 
			saltiness of the water decreases, that is a sign that the driver of 
			the conveyor is weakening.
 Until the 1970s the salinity had been almost constant. But then it 
			began to drop.
 
			  
			Dr. Bill Turrell tells us:  
				
				"After the late seventies we began 
				to see a freshening of the bottom water. So much so that we, we 
				began to doubt our own results. We took further samples, we 
				checked with other countries who are sampling the same water, 
				until eventually we became convinced that this change was 
				actually happening."  
			Turrell had measured the fact that the 
			flow of the Gulf Stream return had fallen by a massive twenty 
			percent.  
			  
			Turrell says:  
				
				Now we really do know that fresh 
				water input to the Arctic is increasing. The Siberian rivers are 
				pumping out more fresh water. The Arctic ice sheets are melting 
				and there is more release of fresh water. It, it's the most 
				fundamental change I've observed in my career.  
			In short, the process that could shut 
			off the Gulf Stream conveyor began in the 1970s. No one knows where 
			the absolute shut-off point is. We only know we are getting closer 
			day by day.
 Let's recap the facts.
 
			  
			Science indicates that a shut off of the Gulf 
			Stream is closely connected to ice ages. The mechanism of the 
			conveyor function of the Gulf Stream is generally understood and the 
			effect of fresh water on same is theorized - with strong evidence. 
			We know that the temperature of the Earth is increasing and that 
			this is increasing the amount of moisture in the air, general 
			precipitation, as well as the zone of precipitation.  
			  
			This is dumping 
			the fresh water into the zone of conveyor return. Measurements have 
			been taken showing that the salinity of the ocean in the critical 
			area is decreasing. So it is safe to say that it is a certainty that 
			the result will be a shutting off of the Gulf Stream conveyer 
			resulting in an ice age. You can pretty well take that to the bank.
 The remaining two questions are: when? and how bad will it be?
 
 The scientists analyzing the data can only say that the implications 
			are huge, the results will be catastrophic, but we we will come back 
			to this soon enough. For now, let us continue with the little 
			discoveries I was making as I dug into the issues.
 
 Notice that all the information about the anomalies in the 
			melting/growing ice problem are coming from European sources. The 
			articles on Reuters and CNN about the anomalous increase of ice in 
			the center of Greenland and Antarctica were scrubbed from the U.S. 
			web.
   
			This brings us back to the CryoSat 
			issue. Remember in the article above entitled "East Antarctica puts 
			on weight," there is the following remark:  
				
				However, the European Space Agency 
				satellite CryoSat, due to be launched later this year, should be 
				able to make very accurate altitude measurements around the 
				coast, providing evidence of exactly how much ice is being lost 
				there. Only when scientists put all these measurements together 
				will the full truth about Antarctica's ice become clear...
				 
			Now, read the excerpts of the following 
			article:
 
				
				Earth - melting in the heat?by 
				Richard Black
 Environment Correspondent
 
				BBC News website
 Predictions vary from the catastrophic to the cataclysmic.
				Glaciers are melting, the ice caps disappearing into the oceans. 
				Sea levels may rise by many meters as a consequence.
 
 Indigenous Arctic peoples will find their food stocks gone, 
				while fresh water supplies in Asia and south America will 
				disappear as the glaciers which provide them melt away; 
				penguins, polar bears and seals will find their habitats gone, 
				their traditional lives unlivable.
 
 But how realistic is this picture? Is the world's ice really 
				disappearing, or is it unscientific hot air?
				A European satellite named CryoSat was designed to provide 
				definitive answers to some of these questions.
 
 A launcher fault destroyed the mission in October 2005, but the 
				European Space Agency has approved a replacement. In the 
				meantime, here is our global snapshot.
 
 
				THE ANTARCTIC
 Huge, pristine, dramatic, 
				unforgiving; the Antarctic is where the biggest of all global 
				changes could begin.
 
 There is so much ice here that if it all melted, sea levels 
				globally would rise hugely - perhaps as much as 80 m. Say goodbye 
				to London, New York, Sydney, Bangkok, Rio... in fact, the 
				majority of the world's major cities.
 
 But will it happen? Scientists divide the Antarctic into three 
				zones: the east and west Antarctic ice sheets; and the 
				Peninsula, the tongue of land which points up towards the 
				southern tip of South America.
 
					
					"Everybody thinks that the 
					Antarctic is shrinking due to climate change, but the 
					reality is much more complex," says David Vaughan, a 
					principal investigator at the British Antarctic Survey in 
					Cambridge, UK.
 "Parts of it appear to be thickening as a result of snowfall 
					increases. But the peninsula is thinning at an alarming rate 
					due to warming.
 
 "The West Antarctic sheet is also thinning, and we're not 
					sure of the reason why."
 
				On the up
 Temperatures in the Peninsula 
				appear to be increasing at around twice the global average - 
				about 2°C over the last 50 years. Those figures are based on 
				measurements made by instruments at scientific stations.
 
 Earlier this year, David Vaughan's group published research 
				showing that the vast majority of glaciers along the Peninsula - 
				87% of the 244 studied - are in retreat.
 
 The ice dumped into the ocean as the glaciers retreat should not 
				make much difference to global sea levels - perhaps a few cm.
				More worrying, potentially, are the vast ice sheets covering the 
				rest of Antarctica.
 
 Making temperature measurements for the continent as a whole is 
				difficult; it is a vast place - more than 2,000km across - there 
				are few research stations, and temperatures vary naturally by 
				2-3C from year to year.
 
 But measurements indicate that in the west, melting is underway.
 
					
					"About one-third of the West 
					Antarctic ice sheet is thinning," says Dr Vaughan, "on 
					average by about 10cm per year, but in the worst places by 
					3-4m per year." [...]
 
				Eastern massAnd what of the big monster, 
				the much larger east Antarctic sheet?
 
 A recent study using altimeter data suggested it is getting 
				thicker, by about 1.8 cm/yr; another, using the gravity satellite 
				mission Grace indicates its mass remains stable.
 
 But could rising temperatures in time drain the ice away?
 
					
					"It is not going to happen on 
					any realistic human timescale," says David Vaughan.
 "It's so cold that you could raise temperatures by 5-10°C 
					without having much of an impact; it's on rock above sea 
					level, so warming in the ocean can't affect it."
 
				Largely insulated from global trends 
				and so big as to generate its own climatic systems, most of 
				Antarctica appears to be immune to the big melt for now, though 
				answers to what is happening in the west are eagerly awaited.
 
				THE ARCTIC
 At the top of the world, the 
				Arctic is a region built on water.
				Around the North Pole is ocean, with ice floes crowding in each 
				winter and thinning again in the summers.
 
 In September, we learned from scientists at the US National Snow 
				and Ice Data Center that the extent of ocean covered by ice is 
				getting smaller each year; the current rate of shrinkage they 
				calculate at around 8% per decade.
 
 Their projection is that within about 60 years, there will be no 
				summer ice at all on the Arctic Ocean.
 
					
					"Overall, the extent has been 
					declining, with some oscillations, since the 1970s when 
					satellites were able to map it," comments Peter Wadhams, 
					Professor of Ocean Physics at Cambridge University, UK, and 
					currently at the Laboratoire Oceanographique in 
					Villefranche-sur-mer, France.
 "There's been a slow decline, but now the thinning appears 
					to be more rapid.
 
 "In the last two decades, not only has the area shrunk but 
					the ice has got thinner by about 40%; the prediction is that 
					it will vanish altogether during summers in the second half 
					of this century."
 
 
				Military recordsMeasurements of thickness 
				come mainly from military submarines, which spent long periods 
				under the Arctic ice during the Cold War.
 
 Peter Wadhams was one of the scientists who afterwards persuaded 
				the authorities in Britain and the United States to de-classify 
				their data.
 
 But as a method of measurement, it is far from perfect; and 
				satellites have given only limited help.
				The existing satellite fleet gives good measurements of ice 
				extent, but is not so good at detecting thickness, partly 
				because the orbits of satellites with radar altimeters do not 
				cover every portion of the ocean.
 
 This data deficit has led to a rival theory; that the ice is not 
				melting at all, it is simply piling up in another part of the 
				ocean, perhaps along the north Canadian coast. ...
 
 
				Great expanse
 Temperatures, meanwhile, show 
				a similar pattern to that seen along the Antarctic Peninsula; an 
				average warming of about 2°C in the last 50 years, about twice 
				the global average, albeit with significant variations between 
				different parts of the Arctic.
 
 This is reflected in changes to ice cover on land as well as on 
				sea.
				The Greenland ice sheet is, after Antarctica, the second biggest 
				expanse of ice in the world.
				Its fringes expand and contract with the seasons; but images 
				show it is melting more each summer now than a decade ago.
 
 In February 2006 researchers discovered glaciers in Greenland 
				were moving much faster than before, meaning that more of its 
				ice was entering the sea.
				In 1996, Greenland was losing about 100 cubic km per year in 
				mass from its ice sheet; by 2005, this had increased to about 
				220 cubic km.
 
 A complete melt of the ice sheet would cause a global sea level 
				rise of about 7m; but the current picture indicates that while 
				some regions are thinning, others are apparently getting 
				thicker. [...]
 
			Notice that they are referring to the 
			Greenland Ice Sheet in this last remark about "getting thicker." 
			They fail to note that the most important factor is the massive 
			amount of fresh water being dumped into the ocean.
 We now come back to the remark:
 
				
				
				A European satellite named Cryosat 
				was designed to provide definitive answers to some of these 
				questions. A launcher fault destroyed the mission in October 
				2005...  
			Considering the disappearance of the 
			articles about Greenland on the U.S. controlled websites, this just 
			sort of gives me the willies. What do they mean a "launcher fault 
			destroyed the mission" ???
 
				
				CryoSat crashes into the sea by
				Team Register
 8th October 2005
 
 The European Space Agency's latest satellite has broken up and 
				crashed into the sea.
 
 The 135 million euro satellite, called Cryosat, blasted off this 
				evening from Russia's Plesetsk Cosmodrome, aboard a modified 
				intercontinental ballistic missile, called Rockot. But it went 
				missing a couple of hours later, around the time it should have 
				shot into final orbit.
 
 Cryosat was supposed to examine the effects of global warming on 
				the polar ice caps. Instead it did its own little bit for global 
				warming as it plunged into the icy Arctic Sea.
 
 In a statement this evening, The European Space Agency said that 
				Russian authorities blamed the crash on "an anomaly in the 
				launch sequence".
 
 The second stage performed nominally until main engine cut-off 
				was to occur. Due to a missing command from the onboard flight 
				control system the main engine continued to operate until 
				depletion of the remaining fuel. As a consequence, the 
				separation of the second stage from upper stage did not occur. 
				Thus, the combined stack of the two stages and the CryoSat 
				satellite fell into the nominal drop zone north of Greenland 
				close to the North Pole into high seas with no consequences to 
				populated areas.
 
 A joint Russian-ESA team will investigate the cause of failure 
				and expects to report back within a few weeks.
 
			Is it just me, or does anyone else think 
			it is strange that the Cryosat crashed in the same month that the 
			Journal Science articles about the build-up of ice in Greenland sort 
			of disappeared from Reuters and CNN?
 BBC gives an update on the crash:
 
				
				Cryosat rocket fault laid bare
 by
				Helen Briggs
 BBC News science reporter
 27 October 2006
 
 Russian space officials have identified the rocket fault that 
				led to the loss of Europe's Cryosat satellite. A problem with 
				the onboard flight-control system of the newly built upper stage 
				of the rocket was to blame.
 
 The Russian state commission report clears the launcher for 
				future use. It was grounded on 8 October when the mission to map 
				the Earth's ice sheets fell into the ocean shortly after 
				lift-off from Plesetsk in Russia. The (135m euro) satellite was 
				riding atop a Rockot launch vehicle, a former military rocket 
				modified by the addition of a newly manufactured third stage.
 
 The Russian Failure Investigation State Commission says a set of 
				measures is being implemented to prevent a recurrence of the 
				incident.
 
					
					"We confirm from the information 
					we have from the State Commission that there was a problem 
					with the software flight-control system in the Breeze upper 
					stage of the launcher," European Space Agency spokesperson, 
					Simonetta Cheli, told the BBC News website.
 "This problem led to a failure of the Breeze upper stage to 
					generate the command to shut down the second stage engine."
 
				The error meant that separation of 
				the rocket's second and third stages did not occur, denying the 
				satellite the final boost it needed to reach orbit and causing 
				it to nosedive into the sea. A board set up by the rocket 
				operator, Eurockot, is to review the findings of the State 
				Commission next week.
 The British scientist who proposed the mission, Prof Duncan Wingham, is calling for the spacecraft to be re-built.
 
			So, it was a software flight control 
			problem; probably one of the easiest ways to sabotage a mission via 
			remote control.    
			We next see that ESA is not giving up, 
			but the work may not be done in time based on all of the above 
			information:  
				  
				Workshop on Antarctic sea-ice highlights 
				need for CryoSat-2 mission 9 August 2006
 
 Sea-ice thickness is an important parameter in modeling global 
				climate, and moreover, long-term changes are considered to be a 
				reliable indicator of climate change. However, estimates of 
				sea-ice thickness trends around Antarctica are currently very 
				limited. An international workshop held recently made it clear 
				that these essential data can only be obtained from satellite 
				missions such as CryoSat-2. [...]
 
 Over the three-day event, which was held on 5 - 7 July 2006, 
				talks highlighted the fact that ice-thickness trends around 
				Antarctica are still largely unknown and that information on 
				seasonal, inter-annual and decadal thickness variations is very 
				scarce. [...]
 
 
				ESA's ice mission CryoSat-2
 07-Jan-2007
 
 The question of whether global climate change is causing the 
				polar ice caps to shrink is one of the most hotly debated 
				environmental issues we currently face. By monitoring precise 
				changes in the thickness of the polar ice sheets and floating 
				sea ice, CryoSat-2 aims to answer this question.
 
 The go-ahead to build and launch the CryoSat-2 mission came in 
				February 2006 after the loss of the first CryoSat last October 
				due to a launch failure. The mission's objectives remain the 
				same as before - to measure ice thickness on both land and sea 
				very precisely to provide conclusive proof as to whether there a 
				trend towards diminishing polar ice cover, furthering our 
				understanding of the relationship between ice and global 
				climate. CryoSat-2 is due for launch in 2009.
 
 It is now generally agreed that the Earth's atmosphere is 
				getting warmer, and although the impact of climate change is 
				expected to be amplified at the poles, it is extremely difficult 
				to predict what effect this is having on the polar ice cover. On 
				one hand, recent years have already seen record summer 
				reductions, in extent and concentrations, of sea ice in the 
				Arctic. In Antarctica, giant icebergs have calved and part of 
				the Larsen ice shelf has disintegrated.
 
				  
				However, on the other 
				hand, ships have recently been trapped for weeks in unusually 
				heavy Antarctic pack ice conditions. [...]  
			Ryan, the Australian forum member found 
			a couple more interesting pieces of this puzzle: 
				
				Considerations Over the Loss of 
				CryoSat ESA Satellite
 
 On 8th October 2005, following a successful preparation of the 
				satellite by the joint ESA and industrial teams, the launch of 
				CryoSat satellite on board a Rockot launch vehicle ended in 
				failure. Due to an anomaly towards the end of the planned 2nd 
				stage operations and approximately five minutes after lift-off, 
				at a height of 230 km, the launch vehicle automatically 
				interrupted its mission and began to fall. The combination of 
				the re-entry heat and the explosion of the fuel tanks completely 
				destroyed CryoSat. Debris of the launch vehicle (2nd, 3rd stage) 
				and of the satellite impacted into the Arctic Ocean.
 
 Formed in 1995, the launch services provider Eurockot Launch 
				Services GmbH, is a joint venture between EADS Space 
				Transportation (DE) and Krunichev (Russia) that provides 
				commercial launch services with the Rockot launch system to 
				operators of Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellites and operates from 
				launch facilities in Plesetsk Cosmodrome, northern Russia. [...]
 
 The root cause of the CryoSat failure has been unambiguously 
				identified and corrective measures for Rockot's return-to- 
				flight are now under way. A Russian State Commission was 
				convened immediately after the accident. The conclusions of its 
				investigation work have been issued in a report including 
				subsequent recommendations, and its main conclusion is that 
				human error and not an inherent design flaw of the launch 
				vehicle caused the failure. [...]
 
			This remark becomes even more 
			interesting when we read the ESA Chairman's introduction to the 
			bulletin: 
				
				A Word from the Chairman
 
 Space Law Games
 Some of you may well have seen the American film in which a 
				supercomputer takes control and directs the fighting between the 
				two superpowers, resulting in the annihilation of the armed 
				forces of the two opposing camps. It turns out that it's only a 
				game with the battle, entirely virtual, won by the computer, 
				which has been brilliantly programmed by a young boy.
 
				  
				Proof, if 
				any is needed, that games can be your downfall. ...  
			Next, let's look at what the Cassiopaeans had to say about all of this 10 years or so ago which 
			is now proving to be astonishingly accurate. And if their remarks 
			about the Global Climate changes have support in science, maybe we 
			ought to consider the other things they have said with a bit more 
			attention?    
			If you read the following in the context 
			of 9/11 and the Global Warming issue, it all begins to make sense.
			   
				
				22 Feb 97  
				Q:  (Laura) Ok, we have several things that we discussed earlier, 
				is there anything you wish to say before we launch into 
				questions?
 
 A:  Underground bases see dramatic budget increase.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Ok, why do they have a budget increase?
 
 A:  Because there is much more activity to come.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Ok, what kind of activity?
 
 A:  Broad range.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Can you list, say, the top three?
 
 A:  Experimentation, utilization and implementation.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura & Terry) Of what?
 
 A:  Human "resources." Plan falling into place for "harvest."
 
 
				Q:  (Terry) The new underground bases, along with all the old 
				ones are for the coming harvest?
 
 A:  And other purposes of 
				
				STS forces' plans.
 
 
				Q:  (Terry) And other STS plans... (Laura) What is this thing 
				called 'The Harvest'?
 
 A:  What do you think?
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Well, is that harvest in a negative event, or harvest 
				in a positive one? I mean, as in the harvesting of the wheat 
				and the tares...
 
 A:  Either/or.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Ok, now you say the plans are falling into place. 
				What specific events of the past, say, several weeks, or months, 
				whatever period of time set aside, are these plans that are 
				falling into place? I mean, what's the key in the lock?
 
 A:  Have you been paying attention, as we have always suggested 
				you should?
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Of course! I just asked you because I wanted you to 
				enumerate! Of course I'm paying attention!
 
 A:  Lately, there has been diversion for you.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Well, it doesn't mean I'm asleep!
 
 A:  V*** mentioned the weather. Was that a bit "nippy" for you in 
				central Europe in December and January, Arkadiusz?
 
			Here, I wonder if the "nippy" wasn't a 
			clue?  
				
				Q:  (Terry) V*** mentioned the 
				weather, and the changes in it. What was the name of that movie 
				we watched up in Tallahassee, I forgot the name of it...
 [Terry then spoke about a science fiction. Aliens were here 
				among us, and were plotting to affect the weather in such a way 
				as to make the planet uninhabitable for us, but perfect for 
				them. Naturally, there was secrecy and cover-ups. Then the 
				subject moved to the cell phone towers that were noted in rural 
				areas of North Florida. This then lead to a question about the 
				cell phone towers. First part of question lost.]
 
 
				Q:  (Terry)...transmit to us and back... what can be transmitted? 
				Can the negative energy be focused through these microwave 
				towers?
 
 (V***) And what was the correlation between the strange weather 
				and the harvesting?
 
 (Laura) Because we were told that the weather changes were due 
				to the energy buildup of the wave. That was two years ago. And 
				it had nothing to do with the 'harvest.'
 
 (Terry) But it could also be that 
				
				HAARP adds to it.
 
 (Jan) Ok, well, let's ask...
 
 (Laura) Well, they would love for us to think that HAARP has 
				something to do with weather. 'Yes, we're having bizarre 
				weather. Let's blame it on HAARP!' because we're going to think 
				about HAARP... What a perfect...
 
 (Terry) Well, HAARP has a lot more to do than just the weather. 
				They can put all the energy-based stuff that they've been 
				experimenting on in one place, because they can do whatever they 
				want, just by changing the frequencies...
 
 (Jan) Or, even just continue to mess the weather up, to continue 
				to create negative vibrations, worry and uncertainty...
 
 (V***) I guess the point I'm trying to get at is, are these 
				weather changes promoting some changes in the physical body, 
				that's making the physical body more 'harvestable?'
 
 (Terry) Could very well be.
 
 (Laura) Well, it's all interconnected, but I wouldn't say that 
				one is the cause of the other, just to say that they occur...
 
 (Terry) But why, as we were talking about earlier, is all this 
				weird stuff going on all through the media?
 
 A:  We told you that "HAARP" was being designated for capturing 
				and modulating electromagnetic fields for the purpose of total 
				control of brainwave patterns in order to establish a system of 
				complete "order on the surface of the planet" in either 3rd or 
				4th density.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Is HAARP in operation at the present time?
 
 A:  Yes, in its early stages.
 
 
				Q:  (Terry) Is the spreading of all these communication towers 
				out across the country the equivalent of a HAARP program on a 
				continental scale?
 
 A:  Back up system.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) So, they don't need the towers to operate the HAARP 
				system, but they are there as the backup?
 
 A:  Towers serve dual and lateral purposes.
 
 
				Q:  (Terry) Local and regional authorities can use the towers to 
				track people, amongst other things.
 
				(Laura) Is the weather being 
				controlled or changed or in any way affected by HAARP?
 A:  Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a 
				fourth.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) All right, I'll take the bait; give me the three 
				factors, and also the fourth!
 
 A:  1) Wave approach. 2) Chloroflorocarbon increase in 
				atmosphere, thus affecting ozone layer. 3) Change in the 
				planet's axis rotation orientation. 4) Artificial tampering by 
				3rd and 4th density STS forces in a number of different ways. 
				...
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) All right, were those given in the order in which 
				they are occurring? The fourth being the one that's coming 
				later?
 
 A:  Maybe, but remember this: a change in the speed of the 
				rotation may not be reported while it is imperceptible except by 
				instrumentation. Equator is slightly "wider" than the polar 
				zones. But, this discrepancy is decreasing slowly currently. One 
				change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound, over 
				Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much, 
				much faster than thought.
 
 
				
				[Discussion of new scientific theory recently presented that the 
				earth is expanding.]
 
 Q:  (Terry) Is the Earth expanding? That's just putting it 
				bluntly, but, is the Earth expanding, how did you put that?
 
				(Ark) Yes, that's the theory: the idea is that the continents 
				move away because the Earth is expanding, and this is much 
				faster than you know, than geologists were thinking.
 A:  Continental "drift" is caused by the continual though 
				variable, propelling of gases from the interior to the surface, 
				mainly at points of magnetic significance.
 
 
				Q:  (Jan) What causes the change in the axis?
 
 A:  By slow down of rotation. Earth alternately heats up and 
				cools down in interior.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Why does it do that? What's the cause of this?
 
 A:  Part of cycle related to energy exerted upon surface by the 
				frequency resonance vibrational profile of humans and others. 
				[...]
 
 
				Q:  (Terry) Ok, let's go back to the beginning of the session, 
				when we were talking about the acceleration/expansion on 
				underground bases in preparation for the harvest. Is that 
				world-wide, we're talking here?
 
 A:  Yes, but United States is focus, due to particularly 
				cooperative power structure profile.
 
 
				Q:  (Terry) Do we want to ask about the power structure profile?
 (Laura) No, we know what that is; they agreed to work with them. 
				But, what I would like to know is what particular steps are 
				being taken, what particular activities are being stepped up?
 
 A:  Acquisition, staging, testing of planned activity.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) And what is the planned activity?
 
 A:  Control of absolutely everything.
 
			Like I said earlier, when the C's were 
			talking about this sort of thing we simply could not even imagine 
			how such a scenario might be initiated and play out. It was all just 
			theoretical fun and games for us. We listened, took notes, and said, 
			basically, "yeah, right!"    
			That 9/11 could be planned and carried 
			out, and all that has followed it was simply out of the range of our 
			limited imaginations!  
				
				Q:  (Laura) Well, swell!  
				(Terry) 
				That's the one world government! That's what they want!  
				(Laura) 
				OK, is there anything in particular that we can do to...
 A:  Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. Awareness makes you 
				less vulnerable, both directly and indirectly. Heard anything 
				about synthetic blood, and blood and plasma alteration lately?
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) There's a can of worms for you! All right, I'll bite! 
				Go ahead, tell us about the synthetic blood and the blood 
				plasma.
 
 A:  Less "mutes" needed.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) Cattle Mutilations. They don't need as many cattle 
				mutilations.
 [...]
 
 A:  
				
				Bio and cyber/genetic humanoid types now increasing 
				exponentially in general population. You may have already 
				encountered one or two during the past 10 days.
 
 
				Q:  (Laura) You, who? You, as in me, you as in F***, who?
 
 A:  Reflect upon activities, and power and influence centers for 
				answer.
 
			It took us another 5 years to figure 
			that one out: psychopaths, and then later, 
			
			ponerology. This next 
			exchange gives some additional clues and insight:
 
				
				9 May 1998
 Q:  ... I would like to know what the geographic coordinates, 
				according to our current grid system, that would frame 
				
				Atlantis. 
				I don't need the exact shape, just a general box shape... the 
				perimeter...
 
 A:  Like asking: "What are the geographic coordinates of the 
				North Atlantic Treaty Organization?"
 
 
				Q:  Okay, let me get more specific: the Atlantean land that was 
				supposed to have existed in the Atlantic Ocean... what was the 
				farthest north of any any part of Atlantis that was in the 
				ocean, that no longer exists?
 
 A:  It is "time for you" to know that Atlantis was not a nation, 
				land, Island, or continent, but rather, a civilization!
 
 
				Q:  All I wanted was to have an idea of a land mass in the 
				Atlantic ocean that people talk about - where did it sit?
 
 A:  Where do you think?
 
 
				Q:  Well, I sort of think that the Azores and the Canary Islands 
				are sort of...
 
 A:  Yes, but many other places too. Remember, the sea level was 
				several hundred feet lower then...
 
 
				Q:  Why was the sea level several hundred feet lower? Because 
				there was ice somewhere or because there was not as much water 
				on the earth at that time?
 
 A:  Ice.
 
 
				Q:  Was the ice piled up at the poles? The ice sheet of the ice 
				age?
 
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  So, Atlantis existed during the ice age?
 
 A:  Largely, yes. And the world's climate was scarcely any colder 
				away from the ice sheets than it is today.
 
				  
				  
				
				 
				The World during 
				the Ice Age  
				 
 
				Q:  Well, how could that be? What 
				caused these glaciers?
 A:  Global warming.
 
 
				Q:  How does global warming cause glaciers?
 
 A:  Increases precipitation dramatically. Then moves the belt of 
				great precipitation much farther north. This causes rapid 
				buildup of ice sheets, followed by increasingly rapid and 
				intense glacial rebound.
 
			So, let's put those two things together: 
			How does global warming cause glaciers and lead to an Ice age?
			 
				
				Increases precipitation 
				dramatically. Then moves the belt of great precipitation much 
				farther north. This causes rapid buildup of ice sheets, followed 
				by increasingly rapid and intense glacial rebound. ...  
				  
				One 
				change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound, over 
				Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much, 
				much faster than thought. 
			There is, of course, those two worrying 
			questions to consider: how fast and how bad can it be?
 Just the other day we published a news item on SOTT that read, in 
			part:
 
				
				Over 4.5 Billion people could die 
				from Global Warming-related causes by 2012
 
 A recent scientific theory called the "hydrate hypothesis" says 
				that historical global warming cycles have been caused by a 
				feedback loop, where melting permafrost methane clathrates (also 
				known as "hydrates") spur local global warming, leading to 
				further melting of clathrates and bacterial growth.
 
 In other words, like western Siberia, the 400 billion tons of 
				methane in permafrost hydrate will gradually melt, and the 
				released methane will speed the melting. The effect of even a 
				couple of billion tons of methane being emitted into the 
				atmosphere each year would be catastrophic.
 
 By the way, the "hydrate hypothesis" is a weeks old scientific 
				theory, and is only now being discussed by global warming 
				scientists. I suggest you Google the term.
 
 There are enormous quantities of methane trapped in permafrost 
				and under the oceans in ice-like structures called clathrates. 
				The methane in Arctic permafrost clathrates is estimated at 400 
				billion tons.
 
 Methane is more than 20 times as strong a greenhouse gas as CO2, 
				and the atmosphere currently contains about 3.5 billion tons of 
				the gas. [...]
 
 Releases of methane from melting oceanic clathrates have caused 
				severe environmental impacts in the past. The methane in oceanic 
				clathrates has been estimated at 10,000 billion tons.
 
 55 million years ago a global warming chain reaction (probably 
				started by volcanic activity) melted oceanic clathrates. It was 
				one of the most rapid and extreme global warming events in 
				geologic history.
 
			Meanwhile, a strong natural gas odor was 
			reported a few days ago in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Jersey City, 
			Weehawken, and Newark.  
			  
			As Wayne Madsen pointed out, last August, a 
			similar unexplained gas odor sent people to the hospital in Staten 
			Island and Queens. Although methane is odorless, natural methane 
			venting is often accompanied by the venting of acrid hydrogen 
			sulfide, a byproduct of bacterial decomposition.  
			  
			One does, of 
			course, wonder about outgassings in relation to flocks of dead birds 
			falling to the ground as also happened at the same time as the 
			horrible smells in the Northeast, though the bird kills were in 
			other locations. Then there are also fish kills that have no other 
			explanation that could be a result of underwater outgassing... 
			Methane can be deadly in other ways, too since it is highly 
			flammable. The following is about a different type of gas, but one 
			must consider the consequences if the gas in question had been 
			methane.
 
			  
				
				
				THE LAKE NYOS GAS EXPLOSION, 
				CAMEROON 1986
 Lake Nyos is one of only three lakes in the world known to be 
				saturated with carbon dioxide - the others are Lake Monoun, 
				also in Cameroon about 100 km away, and Lake Kivu in Rwanda.
 
				  
				
				A 
				magma chamber beneath the region is an abundant source of carbon 
				dioxide, which seeps up through the lake bed, charging the 
				waters of Lake Nyos with an estimated 90 million tonnes of CO2.
 Lake Nyos is thermally stratified, with layers of warm, less 
				dense water near the surface floating on the colder, denser 
				water layers near the lake's bottom. Over long periods, carbon 
				dioxide gas seeping into the cold water at the lake's bottom is 
				dissolved in great amounts.
 
 Most of the time, the lake is stable and the CO2 remains in 
				solution in the lower layers. However, over time the water 
				becomes supersaturated, and if an event such as an earthquake or 
				volcanic eruption occurs, large amounts of CO2 may suddenly come 
				out of solution.
 
 Although a sudden outgassing of CO2 had occurred at Lake Monoun 
				in 1984, killing 37 local residents, a similar threat from Lake 
				Nyos was not anticipated. However, on August 21, 1986, a limnic 
				eruption occurred at Lake Nyos which triggered the sudden 
				release of about 1.6 million tonnes of CO2.
 
				  
				
				The gas rushed down 
				two nearby valleys, displacing all the air and suffocating up to 
				1,800 people within 20 km of the lake, mostly rural villagers, 
				as well as 3,500 livestock. About 4,000 inhabitants fled the 
				area, and many of these developed respiratory problems, burns, 
				and paralysis as a result of the gases.
 It is not known what triggered the catastrophic outgassing. Most 
				geologists suspect a landslide, but some believe that a small 
				volcanic eruption may have occurred on the bed of the lake. A 
				third possibility is that cool rainwater falling on one side of 
				the lake triggered the overturn. Whatever the cause, the event 
				resulted in the rapid mixing of the supersaturated deep water 
				with the upper layers of the lake, where the reduced pressure 
				allowed the stored CO2 to effervesce out of solution.
 
 It is believed that up to a cubic kilometer of gas was released. 
				Because CO2 is denser than air, the gas flowed off the 
				mountainous flank in which Lake Nyos rests and down two 
				adjoining valleys in a layer tens of meters deep, displacing the 
				air and suffocating all the people and animals before it could 
				dissipate.
 
				  
				
				The normally blue waters of the lake turned a deep 
				red after the outgassing, due to iron-rich water from the deep 
				rising to the surface and being oxidized by the air. The level 
				of the lake dropped by about a meter, representing the volume of 
				gas released. 
				 
				  
				
				The outgassing probably also caused an overflow of 
				the waters of the lake. Trees near the lake were knocked down.
				 
			As it happens, the claim in the above 
			article "By the way, the 'hydrate hypothesis' is a weeks old 
			scientific theory, and is only now being discussed by global warming 
			scientists. I suggest you Google the term" is not entirely correct. 
			 
			  
			John Barnes, in his fiction novel, "Mother of Storms," described the 
			release of vast quantities of methane as the trigger for a global superstorm that nearly destroys the earth.  
				
				Mother of Storms takes place about 
				thirty years from now.  
				  
				The UN has become dominant and at the 
				start of the book the US President is maneuvering desperately to 
				avoid losing any more sovereignty to the UN. The UN undertakes a 
				nuclear strike against the Siberian Republic's secret - and 
				illegal - nuclear weapons caches buried in the Arctic seabed.  
				  
				The 
				explosions result in the release of huge amount of methane from 
				the methane clathrates buried there. The methane causes a 
				near-runaway greenhouse effect with global temperatures going up 
				by 10 degrees F in a matter of months.
 The hot, wet oceans are perfect breeding grounds for hurricanes 
				which rapidly develop into storms of unprecedented strength, 
				duration and number.
 
			Obviously, if such a scenario were to 
			play out at present, the roles would be reversed to what Barnes 
			imagined: it would be the U.S. undertaking a nuclear strike that 
			unleashes the methane that triggers the Global Superstorm.  
			  
			It would 
			probably only be in such a manner that enough methane would be 
			released fast enough to make such an impact.  
				
				Methane hydrates and global warming
 
 There is an enormous amount of methane (CH4) on earth 
				frozen into a type of ice called methane hydrate. Hydrates can 
				form with almost any gas and consist of a 'cage' of water 
				molecules surrounding the gas. (The term 'clathrate' more 
				generally describes solids consisting of gases are trapped 
				within any kind of cage while hydrate is the specific term for 
				when the cage is made of water molecules).
 
				  
				There are CO2 
				hydrates on Mars, while on Earth most of the hydrates are filled 
				with methane. Most of these are in sediments of the ocean, but 
				some are associated with permafrost soils.
 Methane hydrates would seem intuitively to be the most 
				precarious of things. Methane hydrate melts if it gets too warm, 
				and it floats in water. Methane is a powerful greenhouse gas, 
				and it degrades to CO2, another greenhouse gas which accumulates 
				in the atmosphere just as fossil fuel CO2 does. And there is a 
				lot of it, possibly more than the traditional fossil fuel 
				deposits.
 
				  
				Conceivably, climate changes could affect these 
				deposits. So what do we know of the disaster-movie potential of 
				the methane hydrates? [...]
 
				
				The Future
 
				The juiciest disaster-movie scenario would be a 
				release of enough methane to significantly change the 
				atmospheric concentration, on a time scale that is fast compared 
				with the lifetime of methane. This would generate a spike in 
				methane concentration. For a scale of how much would be a large 
				methane release, the amount of methane that would be required to 
				equal the radiative forcing of doubled CO2 would be about ten 
				times the present methane concentration. That would be disaster 
				movie.  
				  
				Or, the difference between the worst case IPCC scenario 
				and the best conceivable 'alternative scenario' by 2050 is only 
				about 1 W/m2 mean radiative energy imbalance. A radiative 
				forcing on that order from methane would probably make it 
				impossible to remain below a 'dangerous' level of 2 deg above 
				pre-industrial. I calculate here that it would take about 6 ppm 
				of methane to get 1 W/m2 over present-day. A methane 
				concentration of 6 ppm would be a disaster in the real world. 
				[...]
 The methane is oxidized to CO2, another greenhouse gas that 
				accumulates for hundreds of thousands of years, same as fossil 
				fuel CO2 does. Models of chronic methane release often show that 
				the accumulating CO2 contributes as much to warming as does the 
				transient methane concentration. [...]
 
 So, in the end, not an obvious disaster-movie plot, but a 
				potential positive feedback that could turn out to be the 
				difference between success and failure in avoiding 'dangerous' 
				anthropogenic climate change. That's scary enough.
 
 
			In other words, if there is a Global Superstorm, it probably won't be an ocean sized hurricane that leaps 
			the Isthmus of Panama and reduces Florida to a limerock reef in a 
			matter of hours!
 But then, there IS the problem of the flash frozen mammoths and 
			other creatures that died at the end of Pleistocene Epoch.
 
 One of the major facts that paleontologists and geologists and 
			archaeologists have had to face is the stupendous number of frozen 
			carcasses in Canada and Alaska in the western areas, and in Northern 
			Russian and Siberia in the eastern areas - all dated to about 12000 
			years ago. This suggests, of course, that something dreadful 
			happened on the planet, and its effect on the Northern hemisphere 
			was more severe than on the Southern hemisphere.
 
 Back in the 1940s Dr. Frank C. Hibben, Prof. of Archeology at the 
			University of New Mexico led an expedition to Alaska to look for 
			human remains. He didn't find human remains; he found miles and 
			miles of icy muck just packed with mammoths, mastodons, and several 
			kinds of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions. Just north of 
			Fairbanks, Alaska, the members of the expedition watched in horror 
			as bulldozers pushed the half-melted muck into sluice boxes for the 
			extraction of gold. Animal tusks and bones rolled up in front of the 
			blades "like shavings before a giant plane".
 
			  
			The carcasses were 
			found in all attitudes of death, most of them "pulled apart by some 
			unexplainable prehistoric catastrophic disturbance."1
 The evident violence of the deaths of these masses of animals, 
			combined with the stench of rotting flesh, was almost unendurable 
			both in seeing it, and in considering what might have caused it. The 
			killing fields stretched for literally hundreds of miles in every 
			direction.2 There were trees and animals, layers of peat and moss, 
			twisted and tangled and mangled together as though some Cosmic mixmaster sucked them all in 12000 years ago, and then froze them 
			instantly into a solid mass.3
 
 Just north of Siberia entire islands are formed of the bones of 
			Pleistocene animals swept northward from the continent into the 
			freezing Arctic Ocean. One estimate suggests that some ten million 
			animals may be buried along the rivers of northern Siberia. 
			Thousands upon thousands of tusks created a massive ivory trade for 
			the master carvers of China, all from the frozen mammoths and 
			mastodons of Siberia. The famous Beresovka mammoth first drew 
			attention to the preserving properties of being quick-frozen when 
			buttercups were found in its mouth.
 
 What kind of terrible event overtook these millions of creatures in 
			a single day? Well, the evidence suggests an enormous tsunami raging 
			across the land, tumbling animals and vegetation together, to be 
			finally quick-frozen for the next 12000 years.
 
 These creatures didn't die because of the "gradual onset" of an ice 
			age.
 
			
			
 We come now to the movie "The Day After Tomorrow".
 
			  
			The movie was 
			inspired by 
			The Coming Global Superstorm, a book written by
			Art Bell and Whitley Strieber which is synopsized as follows: 
 
				
				Global warming causes large areas of 
				the Arctic ice shelf to break off and melt, meaning that the 
				Atlantic ocean is diluted by large amounts of fresh water.  
				  
				This 
				then disrupts the Gulf Stream causing an unnatural cooling of 
				the northern hemisphere. This then triggers a series of 
				anomalies, eventually leading up to a massive "global superstorm" 
				system consisting of three gigantic hurricane-like superstorms, 
				which result in an ice age for the northern hemisphere within 
				days.  
				  
				One hurricane is over Canada, one over Scotland, and a 
				third over Siberia. The movie follows Jack, a paleoclimatologist 
				for NOAA; his son Sam, a high school student; and his wife Lucy, 
				a doctor.
 The film portrays the "eye" of the superstorms as having such a 
				low pressure that extremely cold air (-150°F or -101°C) from the 
				troposphere is sucked downward, instantly freezing to death all 
				who are caught in the eye. A woman in NOAA argues that the 
				freezing air would warm up and rise, such as in regular storms, 
				but Jack simply states that the air is dropping too fast.
 
				  
				The 
				storm is headed to New York, where Sam is trapped, and which 
				Jack is trying to reach in the hostile frozen environment with 
				Arctic gear and his survival skills.
 Throughout the movie, a subplot involves the refusal of the Vice 
				President of the United States to accept the threat of global 
				cooling - despite increasingly extreme weather conditions 
				occurring throughout the world - insisting that measures to 
				prevent it will do too much damage to the economy.
 
 Shortly before and during the release of the movie, members of 
				environmental groups and former Vice President Al Gore 
				distributed pamphlets to movie-goers describing what they 
				believe to be the possible effects of global warming, which 
				generally did not agree with the film; some believe Gore looked 
				too much into the film as what he may have thought to have been 
				"a scientifically accurate movie".
 
				  
				During the season when the 
				film was in theaters, much criticism arose towards politicians 
				concerning the Kyoto Protocol and climate change, and in the end 
				the movie created quite the political stir.  
			Interesting, eh?  
			  
			It follows the science 
			that seems to be based on valid observations and theories. And it 
			does provide an explanation for how wooly mammoths could be flash 
			frozen in mid-meal.  
			  
			  
			
			
			
			 
			A screen capture from 
			the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"  
			showing massive 
			cyclonic storms preceding the sudden onset of an ice age. 
 
			  
			Finally, let's have a look at some 
			remarks the C's made about Weird Weather and Global Superstorms: 
 
				
				4 July 1998
 Q:  (A) I am trying to write down some things about a cosmology, 
				and I have some questions mainly about the coming events. First 
				there was the story of the sun's companion brown star which is 
				apparently approaching the solar system, and I would like to 
				know, if possible, details of its orbit; that is, how far it is, 
				what is its speed, and when it will be first seen. Can we know 
				it? Orbit: how close will it come?
 
 A:  Flat eliptical.
 
 
				Q:  (A) But how close will it come?
 
 A:  Distance depends upon other factors, such as intersecting 
				orbit of locator of witness.
 
 
				Q:  (L) What is the closest it could come to earth...
 
				(A) Solar 
				system...  
				(L) Yes, but which part of the solar system? We have 
				nine planets... which one?  
				(A) I understand that this brown star 
				will enter the Oort cloud...  
				(L) I think they said it just 
				brushes against it and the gravity disturbs it...
 A:  Passes through Oort cloud on orbital journey. Already has 
				done this on its way "in."
 
 
				Q:  (A) You mean it has already entered the Oort cloud?
 
 A:  Has passed through.
 
 
				Q:  (A) So, it will not approach...
 
 A:  Oort cloud is located on outer perimeter orbital plane at 
				distance of approximately averaged distance of 510,000,000,000 
				miles.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well, 510 billion miles gives us some time!
 
				(A) Yes, but 
				what I want to know... this Oort cloud is around the solar 
				system, so this brown star, once it has passed through...  
				(L) It 
				must already be in the solar system?  
				(A) No, it could have 
				passed through and may not come closer. Is it coming closer or 
				not? Is it coming closer all the time?
 A:  Solar system, in concert with "mother star," is revolving 
				around companion star, a "brown" star.
 
 
				Q:  (A) So, that means that the mass of the companion star is 
				much...
 
 A:  Less.
 
 
				Q:  (A) Less?
 
 A:  They are moving in tandem with one another along a flat, 
				eliptical orbital plane. Outer reaches of solar system are 
				breached by passage of brown companion, thus explaining 
				anomalies recently discovered regarding outer planets and their 
				moons.
 
 
				Q:  (A) But I understand that the distance that the distance 
				between the sun and this brown star is changing with time. 
				Eliptical orbit means there is perihelion and aphelion. I want 
				to know what will be, or what was, or what is the closest 
				distance between this brown star and the sun? What is 
				perihelion? Can we know this, even approximately. Is it about 
				one light year, or less or more?
 
 A:  Less, much less. Distance of closest passage roughly 
				corresponds to the distance of the orbit of Pluto from Sun.
 
 
				Q:  (A) Okay. Now, this closest pass, is this something that is 
				going to happen?
 
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  (A) And it is going to happen within the next 6 to 18 years?
 
 A:  0 to 14.
 
 
				Q:  (A) Okay, that's it. I have some idea about this. Now, I 
				understand that, either by chance or by accident, two things are 
				going to happen at essentially the same time. That is the 
				passing of this brown star, and this comet cluster. These are 
				two different things?
 
 A:  Yes. Different, but related.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Is there a comet cluster that was knocked into some kind 
				of orbit of its own, that continues to orbit...
 
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  (L) And in addition to that comet cluster, there are also 
				additional comets that are going to get whacked into the solar 
				system by the passing of this brown star?
 
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  (A) I understand that the main disaster is going to come from 
				this comet cluster...
 
 A:  Disasters involve cycles in the human experiential cycle 
				which corresponds to the passage of comet cluster.
 
 
				Q:  (A) I understand that this comet cluster is cyclic and comes 
				every 3600 years. I want to know something about the shape of 
				this comet cluster. I can hardly imagine...
 
 A:  Shape is variable. Effect depends on closeness of passage.
 
 
				Q:  (L) So, it could be spread out...
 
				(A) We were asking at some 
				point where it will be coming from. The answer was that we were 
				supposed to look at a spirograph.
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  (A) Now, spirograph suggests that these comets will not come 
				from one direction, but from many directions at once. Is this 
				correct?
 
 A:  Very good!!!
 
 
				Q:  (A) Okay, they will come from many directions...
 
 A:  But, initial visibility presents as single, solid body.
 
 
				Q:  (A) Do we know what is the distance to this body at present?
 
 A:  Suggest you keep your eyes open!
 
 
				Q:  (A) I am keeping my eyes open.
 
 A:  Did you catch the significance of the answer regarding time 
				table of cluster and brown star? Human cycle mirrors cycle of 
				catastrophe. Earth benefits in form of periodic cleansing. Time 
				to start paying attention to the signs. They are escalating. 
				They can even be "felt" by you and others, if you pay attention.
 
 
				Q:  (L) We have certainly been paying attention to the signs!
 
 A:  How so?
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well, the weather is completely bizarre. The fires, the 
				heat...
 
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  (L) I notice that the tides are awfully high all the time 
				with no ostensible explanation...
 
 A:  And low, too.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Yes. I have noticed that particularly.
 
				(F) I have too. 
				Not too long ago I noticed that the tides were so incredibly low 
				for this time of year.  
				(L)
				And also the signs in people - these kids killing their parents, 
				all these people going berserk - you know...
 A:  Spike.
 
 
				Q:  (L) What do you mean spike?
 
 A:  On a graph...
 
 
				Q:  (L) Just spikes, not the biggie...
 
 A:  Spikes are big.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well, from what you are saying about this - I mean how 
				are we supposed to do all these things you say we are supposed 
				to do? I mean, we won't have time!
 
 A:  Who says?
 
 
				Q:  (L) That is kind of what it is sounding like. Unless our 
				lives and experiences escalate in concert with all these other 
				events...
 
				(A) I have a last question which I have prepared. So, 
				we have these two physical disasters or events, the coming brown 
				star and the comet cluster, but we have been told that this time 
				it is going to be different because this time it is accompanied 
				by a plane convergence.
 A:  Yes. Magnetic field alteration.
 
 
				Q:  (A) This plane convergence, or this magnetic field 
				alteration, it's supposed to be related to realms crossing or 
				passing. A realm border.
 
 A:  Realm. What is root of "realm?"
 
 
				Q:  (L) Reality.
 
 A:  Yes. How does the magnetic field "plug in?" We want to stay 
				on this general subject matter through this session, for your 
				sake.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Okay, in terms of these signs, these things going on on 
				the planet, these fires and so forth - you never said anything 
				about all these fires in Florida. You said Arizona was going to 
				burn, but you never said Florida was going to burn...
 
 A:  We did not say it would not.
 
 
				Q:  (L) I know. But, it is really oppressive. I have read a 
				couple of signs in the last day or so that we are going to have 
				a change in the weather, a break, is my little method of 
				predicting...
 
 A:  Reverse extreme?!?
 
 
				Q:  (L) Oh! Floods again! Well, I guess floods are better than 
				fires... but, maybe not!
 
 A:  Italy and Greece are burning too.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Yes, we noticed that in the paper today. Is there a 
				relationship between Italy and Greece and where we are on the 
				planet? Some kind of psychic link?
 
 A:  Just same current malady.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Okay, back to the comet cluster and realm border...
 
 A:  Not yet.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well, which direction should we take right now?
 
 A:  Step by step.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Okay, you just said we are going to have a reversal in 
				our weather. Are there any other conditions that we should be 
				aware of at the present time?
 
 A:  Point is to watch, look, listen.
 
 
				Q:  (L) When we are watching, looking and listening, is there 
				some particular thing we are supposed to be watching for that is 
				to give us a clue about something?
 
 A:  All.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Is there something we are supposed to do at some point 
				when we perceive a particular clue or event at some point?
 
 A:  What would you suggest?
 
 
				Q:  (L) I don't know that I would suggest anything except to keep 
				a low profile and keep on working until we figure out the 
				answer. It is like a race against time. We have to figure out 
				the answer because, obviously, you are not going to tell us...
 
 A:  No. No race needed.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well, I sometimes feel completely inadequate for all of 
				this.
 
 A:  Stop thinking 3rd density!
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well, I don't want to just live in LaLa land and say, 'oh 
				yes, I'm watching. I see the signs! I'm looking! I'm listening! 
				And then count them off on my fingers and say: but I'm not going 
				to 
				think about it because that's 3rd density!' See what I am saying 
				here?
 
 A:  No, because you are still thinking 3rd density. Better to 
				have a "front row seat," and enjoy!
 
 
				Q:  (L) But I feel like I am not supposed to be enjoying myself 
				so much! I feel guilty!
 
 A:  Why not?
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well! I'm supposed to be DOING something!
 
 A:  You are.
 
 
				Q:  (A) When you watch, look and listen, you are getting some 
				signals, and these signals cause a certain pattern of thinking 
				which were not yet able to emerge, but now, after you receive 
				certain signals, you start to think in a different way. So, you 
				cannot now think in a different way, but when you learn this and 
				this has happened, then you start to think in a different 
				pattern. So, you cannot now do things, but you always have to be 
				ready to change your thinking at any moment when you understand 
				more, when you see more, when you notice more, when you put 
				things together which are not yet together. Then, there may be a 
				big change of perspective, a total change. And this we have to 
				keep our minds and thinking patterns open and ready to change, 
				and work and put the puzzle and mosaic together. And, this is 
				all that counts. It is this work that we are now doing that 
				counts, not some future big thing: oh! Now we go on a ship! No, 
				it is only doing our best, and what is it? Our best? It will 
				change. I believe so. That is the idea. So, everything depends 
				on this.
 
 A:  Yes. You see, my dear, you cannot anticipate that which is 
				not anticipatable.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Well, swell. Okay, you want to stay on this subject, so 
				let us move another step.
 
 A:  We are glad you noticed this birth of the spike.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Is that a clue? Is this one of those obscure remarks? 
				Yes, I noticed, the kids killing their parents, all the shooting 
				going on, the weather... is this connected in some way to some 
				other event?
 
 A:  27 days of record heat out of 30, oh my oh my! Suggest you 
				awaken your internet pals, as they are too busy chasing 
				"goblins" to notice.
 
 
				Q:  (L) So, I should have something to say about this?
 
 A:  In Florida now, where to next? How about a shattering 
				subduction quake in Pacific Northwest of U.S.? We estimate 10.4 
				on the Richter scale. We have warned of Ranier. Imagine a 150 
				meter high tsunami in Puget Sound...
 
 
				Q:  (L) Does this subduction quake have anything to do with that 
				UFO that buried itself in the Pacific?
 
 A:  All are interconnected.
 
 
				Q:  (L) The information I got on that was that it was about 600 
				mile north and east of Hawaii. A couple of submersibles were 
				sent down and disappeared or were destroyed or didn't come 
				back... it is supposedly giving off a lot of energy. Any 
				comment?
 
 A:  No.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Should I follow that direction?
 
 A:  All directions lead to lessons.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Now, you have mentioned this earthquake. I know that you 
				don't usually give predictions, why have you done so now?
 
 A:  We do not give time tables.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Anything else other than a tsunami in Puget Sound and a 
				big subduction quake... 10.4 on the Richter scale is almost 
				inconceivable.
 
				A:  Ranier... caldera.
 
 
				Q:  (L) What about the caldera?
 
 A:  Expect one.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Other than floods, anything else for Florida upcoming?
 
 A:  All areas experience accelerating "freak weather patterns."
 
 
				Q:  (L) Okay, all of these freaky weather patterns and bizarre 
				things going on on the planet, how does it relate to the comet 
				cluster and the brown star? Is it related?
 
 A:  Human experiential cycle intersects.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Any specific physical manifestation of either this brown 
				star or this comet cluster or this realm border, that is related 
				to these events on the planet?
 
 A:  Approach of wave stimulates precursor activity which in turn 
				causes effects which in turn stimulates further "heating up" of 
				activity...
 
 
				Q:  (L) I thought it was curious that you used the term 'birth of 
				the spike.' Is there something or someone that was born at that 
				particular time?
 
 A:  No. Spike is as on a graph...
 
 
				Q:  (L) Okay, is there anyway we could graph this ourselves, and 
				if so, what types of events would we include to create the 
				background data?
 
 A:  "El Niño, La Niña," etc...
 
 
				Q:  (L) Is this El Niño thing connected to sunspot cycles?
 
 A:  No.
 
 
				Q:  (L) It has its own cycle. I don't think it has been tracked 
				for long enough to get...
 
 A:  Global warming, a part of the human experiential cycle.
 
 
				Q:  (L) I read where 
				
				Edgar Cayce said that a slight increase in 
				global temperature would make hurricanes something like 5 times 
				stronger... given a baseline temperature. Does this mean we are 
				going to have stronger and more frequent hurricanes?
 
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  (L) Will they hit land more frequently, or just spin out in 
				the ocean?
 
 A:  Either, or.
 
 
				  
				18 March 2000
 
 Q:  You made a remark once that ice ages occur much, much faster 
				than people ever thought...
 
 A:  Yes.
 
 
				Q:  Do we need to invest in some mukluks and snowshoes?
 
 A:  ??
 
 
				Q:  Well, what I am trying to get at is: should we start 
				stockpiling firewood?
 
 A:  Maybe.
 
 
				Q:  So, it could be that fast?
 
 A:  Oh yes, and faster when in response to global "warming."
 
 
				Q:  When you put "warming" in quotes, you obviously mean warming 
				in more than just an ordinary sense? Is that correct?
 
 A:  And/or not really "warm."
 
 
				Q:  Whitley Strieber and Art Bell have published a book about a 
				"global superstorm." Is any of the information they have given 
				in this book fairly accurate?
 
 A:  Derived from non-human sources known for stark accuracy, when 
				convenient.
 
 
				Q:  What makes it convenient at the present time for them to be 
				"starkly accurate?"
 
 A:  Fits into plans.
 
 
				Q:  Plans for what?
 
 A:  Do we not know already?
 
 
				Q:  In other words: world conquest and the takeover of humanity?
 
 A:  Not as simple.
 
 
				Q:  What would make my statement more accurate?
 
 A:  Call it amalgamation.
 
				  
			Remember what Bill Gray said in the 
			article from June, 2006, quoted near the beginning?  
				
				"In just three, five, maybe eight 
				years, he says, the world will begin to cool again."  
			I hope everyone has a pair of mukluks 
			for the Day After Tomorrow...  
			  
			  
			
			 
			Mukluks and Snowshoes 
			required Day After Tomorrow. 
       
			Notes 
				
					
					
					Hibben, Frank, The Lost 
					Americans (New York: Thomas & Crowell Co. 1946). 
					
					Sanderson, Ivan T., "Riddle of 
					the Frozen Giants", Saturday Evening Post, No. 39, January 
					16, 1960. 
					
					Simpson, George G., Horses, New 
					York: Oxford University Press) 1961.   |