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- Here’s an interview with an
                individual named Andy Pero. I met Pero personally through
                Preston Nichols, author of several books about the Montauk
                Project which Nichols was personally involved in. 
              
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- A section of our book
                "PHOENIX UNDEAD: The Montauk Project And Camp Hero
                Today" featured an autobiographical sketch by Pero,
                identified by the pseudonym ’Mr. Coffee" in the book.
				
              
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- Here’s more recent information
                from the survivor of horrendous 
				
				mind control programming
                directly connected to the infamous Montauk Project operations;
                activities which also included some of the most advanced
                experimental work into relativistic and quantum physics which
                has ever been done, including interdimensional and time travel
                experiments. 
              
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- In particular, Pero’s comments
                and insights about what he was involved in at Montauk, such as
                with the so-called ’Montauk chair," are extremely
                interesting and provide additional, fresh insight into this most
                extraordinary and concept-shattering project and the technology
                utilized therein. 
              
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				PROJECT SUPERMAN
				
              
- An exclusive interview with 
				Andy Pero, survivor of a secret mind control project aimed at
                creating the super soldier with psionic abilities.
				
              
- by Eve Frances Lorgen, M.A
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				from
				
				AlienLoveBite Website
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				- Andy Pero was unwillingly 
				subjected to a 
				
				mind control program off-shoot the Monarch 
				Project-a trauma based mind control program similar to what 
				Cathy O’ Brien describes in her autobiography by Mark Philips,
                "Tranceformation of America".
				
              
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- Andy Pero claims to have been
                created through a combination of genetic manipulation, trauma
                based mind control and Silva Mind Control training resulting in
                superhuman feats and psionic abilities. In addition to this, Mr.
                Pero alleges to have been unwittingly used in covert
                assassinations as a Manchurian Candidate and also in missions
                connected to the Montauk Project, such as time travel.
				
              
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- Andy Pero first went public with
                his story in August of 1998 as a special guest of Preston
                Nichols while at a lecture series hosted by Bob Eure of
                Philadelphia, PA. I was so astounded with Andy’s testimony, that
                I interviewed him personally so that his story could be shared
                with readers of Unknown Magazine. For those who are unfamiliar
                with me, I have worked for ten years investigating and
                counseling UFO experiencers, abductees and occasionally
                survivors of various forms of anomalous trauma, such as ritual
                abuse and mind control. Because of my background in alien
                abductions, paranormal, the occult and anomalous trauma, I
                recognized Andy as an extraordinary survivor of trauma based
                mind control, one whose story should not remain hidden. 
				
					- EL:
                Andy, where are you from originally and when did your training
                begin? 
					
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- AP:
                I was born in Fallon, Nevada in November of 1969. My father was
                a Lieutenant Commander at the Fallon Naval Air Station in Nevada
                at the time. I believe my first experiences began by the time I
                was two and a half years old. At five years old my family lived
                in Munich, Germany and I remember attending two distinct
                Kindergarten classes, on in German that was located on or near
                McGraw Army Troop Army Base, and another Kindergarten in
                English. 
					
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- I have flashback memories of
                torture sessions as early as age two where I was subjected to
                shock treatments with needles inserted in my ears and genitalia.
                What they (the controllers/handlers) do is use extreme trauma to
                separate the mind from the body. They do this to split the mind
                into several parts that can later be programmed to do
                things-like superhuman feats. Basically, they disconnect all of
                the normal human brain impulses, emotions and whatever is
                normally present, then reprogram in new ones. They do this to
                remove all fear, so that when they program in new abilities, you
                will not have the instinctual, "but I can’t, I’m
                afraid..." response. They program you to do, not think. In
                essence, they treat and program your mind as if it was a
                computer. 
					
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- EL:
                Who are the people running these secret programs like the
                Monarch and Montauk Projects, and where do they conduct their
                activities? 
					
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- AP:
                Our own government. One of my handlers-who tried to brainwash me
                into believing that he was my father--was basically a Nazi. I
                nicknamed him Adolph because he is very Aryan looking. 
					
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- After WW2 many Nazi scientists
                were brought over to the US through our own Intelligence
                community who formerly worked in mind control research in the
                concentration camps. I believe they are a remnant of the Nazi
                party working in conjunction with different branches of the US
                government and the military. 
					
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- Much of my training and torture
                sessions were done right at the University of Rochester, NY.
                They used to take me to a private room in the attic or top floor
                of the library. The big lab where I had most of the programming
                done to me was at the Rome National Air Base in Rome, NY. I have
                also been used in the Montauk chair while at Camp Hero, Montauk, L.I. and also in a chair in Atlanta, GA at Dobbins Air Force
                Base. 
					
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- The Montauk facility located in
                Camp Hero, L.I. was reopened by the Department of the Navy and
                is active to this day. 
					
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- Basically there are underground
                bases located across the country. Each one has a different
                function and specialty. There is a facility in Rochester, NY,
                Paramus, NJ, Dobbins Air Force Base in Atlanta, GA, Camp Hero in
                Montauk, L.I. and many others. In the Paramus, NJ facility is
                where they do the sex programming for many of the female agents.
                For the most part, 99% of them are involuntary sex agents and
                couriers who were raised in various mind control projects.
					
					
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- EL:
                What were some of the things the mind control programmers made
                you do? 
					
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- AP:
                I remember my mother enrolling me in a Silva Mind Control course
                when I was ten. It is a type of self-hypnosis where you learn to
                go to different levels of your mind to do self-healing,
                relaxation, visualization, bending spoons with the power of your
                mind, things like that. This is also the time when I saw two
                peculiar military men, who would periodically visit me
                throughout my childhood, especially sporting events. I did
                exceptionally well at Silva Mind Control (and sports), so much
                so that the two military men approached me and said, "I
                hear you have some very special abilities. Someday you will work
                for us." At the time I didn’t understand, but later the two
                men figured prominently in all the training I had up all the way
                through my college years. Of course I didn’t realize this until
                my memories came back. I did very well at sports and
                demonstrated a genius IQ, but I stuttered so badly until I was
                in my twenties, that everyone just thought I was a dumb jock.
                The stuttering was due to all the electroshock treatments.
					
					
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- I recall being subjected to
                electroshock numerous times, being placed in an enclosed water
                tank and told to breathe underwater. Consequently, I drowned
                several times and would revive because of my self-created
                healing pool in my mind. I learned to create my own mental
                laboratory through Silva Mind Control, replete with a super
                powerful healing pool that could heal any injury. I was forced
                to endure suffering beyond belief to accomplish superhuman feats
                of strength and survival. 
					
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- EL:
                Tell me more about the various superhuman abilities you
                discovered you had. 
					
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- AP:
                The trainers would put me into a trance whereby I’d be told I
                could jump off a ladder of minimal height. In my mind, I
                believed that I was only jumping off a footstool or a short
                ledge. In actuality, I was progressively led to jump higher and
                higher heights to the point of successfully jumping off
                buildings and even out of planes without a parachute. 
					
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- When under mind control, I could
                do whatever I was instructed to do as long as I believed them. I
                would do 200 or more push ups in perfect form, sometimes as long
                as a half hour straight, or until I was told to stop. I weight
                lifted 545 lbs. on a barbell and squats while attending college
                and much more (500-1500 lb.) while I was under the mind control
                in the training laboratory not far from Rochester, NY. 
					
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- In my jumps, it was as if I was
                falling like a cat, calm and cool with no fear, focusing like a
                laser only on the landing. 
					
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- EL:
                Are there others like yourself who have had similar training and
                experiences? 
					
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- AP:
                I think there are thousands of other children and people who are
                used and many end up missing. Many die in the process. They are
                considered expendable. The ones who can survive the most
                rigorous programming live on to become what are known as the
                Montauk boys. Duncan Cameron is such a person. In general, the
                boys and young men are trained to be couriers, assassins and
                super soldiers and even psychic killers. The women are mostly
                used as sex agents. Cathy O’ Brien’s story is an example.
					
					
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- EL:
                What kinds of special missions or time travel experiments do you
                remember taking part in? 
					
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- AP:
                There were times I remember being at the small Rochester
                airport, being picked up in an F-16 fighter plane and ending up
                in some southwestern desert terrain either for special military
                training and obstacle courses or assassination missions. I
                remember seeing other men in black t-shirts and pants on the
                same training course at one time. Other times I found myself on
                some aircraft carrier out at sea. After the mission they would
                take me back and I would return to college after a couple of
                days or even hours not remembering what even happened. All of
                these missions were done between the time I was 15 years old and
                until 1988-1992 under deep hypnotic programming with the
                memories erased, until of some of my memories started to return.
					
					
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- I was also taught to handle
                various types of guns, loading, cleaning, special
                characteristics of each model and firing at exact targets
                repeatedly and perfectly without thinking, just doing. 
					
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- EL:
                Tell me more about your involvement in the Montauk Project.
					
					
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- AP:
                I was involved in an off shoot of the Montauk Project called the
                	Montauk chair. Basically the Montauk chair was developed to give
                the human and spirit a zero point of reference to facilitate
                time travel. What the chair essentially does is separate the
                mind from the body. The chair operator’s thoughts and
                vibrational energy is picked up by umbrella looking antennas
                above the chair, sent to a computer, over to a processor, then
                amplified several hundred times. The information is sent to a
                network of free energy crystals arranged in a circle. Then
                whatever thoughts were amplified, i.e., a time period, a
                wormhole would open up in the room. The wormhole was as large as
                16-18 feet across and even large enough for a truck to go
                through. 
					
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- In Camp Hero, Montauk, the
                location is the cross hairs of the earth’s biorhythms and is the
                point on earth where time travel is most easily accomplished
                when earth is the point of origin. 
					
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- My part of the Montauk chair
                project was to use my focused visualization skills to think of
                specific time points in history that were assigned to me. The
                chair is connected to a sophisticated computer system and
                thought amplifier, such that when a thought or time period is
                visualized, the computer simulates a time portal based on that
                point in time. A series of time portals are done until a library
                of time periods and portals are accumulated. 
					
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- The chair is also used to amplify
                extremely focused thoughts to create three-dimensional
                materializations based on the operators thoughts. 
					
					Preston
                Nichols wrote several books on the Montauk Project and describes
                an incident in which Duncan Cameron created a monster while in
                the Montauk chair. 
					
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- One such time travel mission was
                called Project Southern Cross. It was used to win WW2 in favor
                of the allies. What the US government did using time travel was
                to go back in time to the 1940’s to help us win the war. We
                would deliver communication devices, weapons and technologies
                made out of 1940’s parts. These would be delivered to the 1940’s
                along with a complete set of drawings on how to make them out of
                1940’s parts. I took part in several of these deliveries, one
                time I was sent to Germany and another time to England. I was
                not allowed to speak to anyone, other than deliver my parcel and
                quickly return back to our time. And this was all done under
                deep hypnotic programming, so I didn’t have a lot of freedom to
                explore. I was gone no longer than two hours for the deliveries.
					
					
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- EL:
                Have you ever encountered any extraterrestrials or seen any
                	aliens in any of your underground base memories?
					
					
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- AP:
                From what I understand the Department of the Navy made an
                agreement with the alien Greys to exchange technologies for
                human women and children to conduct horrific breeding
                experiments. This is what is going on right now in an
                underground base not far from Miami, Florida. One of my most
                disturbing memories is being escorted down a hallway in this
                underground lab and seeing cages of chickenwire fencing with
                women and children screaming for help. I have seen Grey aliens
                (the 4-foot tall ones with large black eyes) and also 7-foot
                tall 
					
					reptilian beings in some of my experiences. I have been
                told that I have many children from alien breeding experiments.
                I have had abductions with the Greys also. 
					
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- On one occasion I was introduced
                to a Reptilian being while in an underground base sometime in
                1989-90. At first I saw a 7-foot tall human Ayran looking man.
                He walks towards me and I notice that his image phases out as if
                something interfered with an energy field. He does something to
                a device on his belt and tells me, "OK, I’ll show
                you." He then pushes some button and then I see his image
                change into a 7-foot tall lizard like creature who looked like
                he weighed over 400 lb. 
					
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- I was introduced to a group of
                beings that claimed to be a sub group of 
					
					the Illuminati. They
                were made up of a group of about 40-50 men, all 6’ 2" or
                taller, white, and of an indeterminate older age, averaging 70,
                but I suspect much older considering the technology they have
                access to. They convened in a boardroom that I believe was in an
                underground base, perhaps Camp Hero, Montauk. They sat around a
                large football shaped table made of wood. Each high backed chair
                had a light at the tip and each sitting had a TV type of screen
                and control panel that came out from the table. There was a
                huge screen located in the front of the room as well. I have
                reason to believe that not all of the Illuminati are human, but
                in actuality are alien beings that appear to look human. 
					
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- EL:
                Who or what groups do you think are running the show here in the
                US or even on Earth? How do the aliens fit into all of this?
					
					
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- AP:
                It is very complicated, but basically there are four main
                versions or groups of the 
					
					New World Order, all with slightly
                varying agendas. 
					
						- -  The first group comprises the US and Western
                Europe (i.e., England, Germany, France and the US). 
						
- -  The second
                group is Eastern Europe fused with Western Europe and the US.
                		
						
- -  The third group is the countries of the Orient, and the fourth
                is the Middle Eastern-Saudia Arabian elements and all the oil
                money. 
					
    
					- There are also off world groups (aliens and future human
                Nazi’s types called Zardanians, Reptilians, Greys and 
					Dracos)
                who also have a hand in the NWO plans. For the time being, the
                old money groups of Europe and England have teamed up with die
                hard Nazi factions, Jews and Americans forming the group that
                has been always been known as the Illuminati and affiliated
                secret societies. This large international group controls the
                media, police force, military, etc. The Illuminati is also part
                of the NWO plan, which includes members such as George Bush,
                	Prince Charles and other high ranking people. 
					
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- As for the aliens, I think most
                of the alien Greys are either under the authority of or in
                collaboration with the Reptilians, Dracos and the Illuminati,
                based on some of my experiences and memories that are still
                returning to me. Some Grey groups are in conflict with the
                Reptilian/Draco agenda and are doing their own thing (human/grey
                hybridization programs) so to speak. Their agenda gets into
                heavy spiritual matters having to do with acquiring an emotional
                body and an ability to ascend to higher dimensions. They are
                using humans to accomplish this via the human/alien hybrids.
                Humans have the key in terms of having a threefold essence or
                unity of being, physical, emotional and spiritual. Other aliens
                have lost this unity of being (because of the fall from grace),
                thus inhibiting them from ascending to higher dimensions, or
                evolving to higher levels. This gets back to the original Luciferic rebellion, 
					fallen angels and the various conflicts
                between species. 
					
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- EL:
                When did you start remembering your memories? How did or can you
                break the programming they install? 
					
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- AP:
                Some of my first memories surfaced while I was living with a
                roommate in Atlanta, GA back in 1996. We went to the bowling
                alley and I saw a large sign in the shape of a man dressed like
                a Rhino advertising, "Bowl with Rhino balls." This
                triggered me into remembering that "Rhino" is the name
                my Nazi handlers called me. My roommate overheard me say outloud, "I’m Rhino-they called me Rhino." He got
                excited and immediately asked me, "Where did you hear
                that?" He had a grave look of concern on his face and kept
                questioning me. By his reaction, I realized later that all along
                he was one of my hired programmers and handlers. The initial
                triggered memory that surfaced was a flashback of me being
                electrocuted and shocked and screaming in pain in one of my
                numerous torture sessions. 
					
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- Then after that first memory,
                other memories started leaking through. It was like my mind was
                dammed up and the subconscious memories were starting to leak
                through. My mind controller programmers deliberately built a
                wall around my memories so that I wouldn’t remember. When I
                started recalling bits and pieces, I’d write notes to myself and
                hide them. Then I’d find my notes, after I had forgotten
                everything because my roommate was catching on that I was
                remembering. So he would repeatedly put me in trances, erase my
                memories and I’d forget what I had just remembered. But then
                everything came crashing down, because I deliberately hid notes
                and pretended that I didn’t know to my roommate. I had thought
                he was a friend and it turned out he was just hired to be
                another controller and handler to keep me in the program. 
					
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- I recall that in the past I did
                not even remember my dreams for ten years. But now things are
                coming back. I am working on purifying the body to help clear my
                mind and get my abilities back. 
					
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- EL:
                How do they keep control overall these people who have been and
                are still in mind control projects? 
					
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- AP:
                The essence of their control tactics is of splitting the mind at
                a young age. This entails a process of trauma, torture,
                degradation and humiliation of the subject. The process is
                different for each individual, but in essence they go to your
                subconscious mind and find out what the most personal parts of
                you are. Then they essentially use this against you to break you
                down and rip your mind apart. What happens is this: An
                individual who possesses special mental abilities is selected at
                a very young age. (Very often they are from military families or
                from multigenerational Satanic ritual abuse families - EL) Then
                they are subjected to various stages of terror and horror to
                begin to separate them from their own minds. It is a process of
                progressive dissociation and compartmentalization of the mind
                and personality. 
					
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- They control your mind through
                various complicated hypnosis techniques and commands until they
                create the perfect Manchurian Candidate. (See 
					
					The Greenbaum
                Speech by D.C. Hammond) They program you to do something, then
                erase the memory. Basically they program your mind as if it were
                a computer. Once they install the magic word, all they have to
                do is say it and you’re under their control. This happens from
                an early age so it is easier to control them if they are
                conditioned and dissociated into several personalities. 
					
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- Another method of control is that
                they send in special people in your lives, handlers and
                controllers who pose as friends, teachers,
                "deprogrammers", roommates, lovers, etc. who are
                actually operatives for the mind control projects. Some are
                sleeper operatives who don’t even know they are being used to a
                certain extent. It makes it hard to trust anyone at this point.
					
					
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- EL:
                Is there anything else you can say about these projects or
                advice to others who have gone through similar experiences, like
                how they can be set free from its influence? 
					
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- AP:
                For those who want to get out of the influence of the programs
                of mind control, you must have a strong fighting instinct to do
                what is right regardless of what others are doing. Your only
                cage is the one you build for yourself. You must connect with
                your highest self to break the evil that is all around us, and
                not succumb to doing evil just because everyone else is doing
                it. Retain your fundamental sense of right and wrong. 
					
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- It all goes back to the
                basic conflict basic good and evil. It is like the dark forces
                in power of the planet at this time are trying to cheat their
                way into heaven or higher dimensions.
  
					
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