by Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.
January 16, 2012

from Exopolitics Website

Spanish version




Andy Basiago claims to have been recruited into

DARPA Project Pegasus as a child.




Andy Basiago first emerged into public life four years ago with sensational claims of discovering life on Mars.


He wrote a White Paper in 2008 with his analysis of Mars Rover images which he claimed were conclusive proof of life of Mars and a NASA controlled cover up. Later Basiago publicly declared his participation as a child in Project Pegasus, a DARPA funded project which tested advanced technologies using children. Among these technologies was what Basiago described as "jump room" technology.


This allowed the instantaneous transport through time and space. Among the places Basiago claimed to have visited is Mars. There he saw a dinosaur roving the Martian surface hungry for food - human residents lost on the surface being a delicacy for such beasts according to Basiago. Basiago's most recent claims are even more sensational.


President Obama back in 1980 was also part of the Mars program and even got to travel to Mars.





Is Basiago genuinely blowing the whistle on Mars or a crackpot seeking attention?

Basiago's White Paper on Mars was released in late 2008 and titled, "The Discovery of Life on Mars."


In it Basiago begins by declaring:

There is life on Mars. Evidence that the Red Planet harbors life and has for eons was discovered by the author be examining NASA photograph PIA 10214, a westward view of the West Valley of the Columbia Basin in the Gusev Crater that was taken by the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit in November 2007 and beamed back to the Earth.


NASA photograph PIA 10214 - a figure of a human female?


Some of the figures in the NASA photograph are intriguing.


Basiago refers to one that,

"appeared to be the figure of a human female… jutting from the edge of a plateau."

Critics dismissed the figure as nothing more than a rock formation.


Basiago and his supporters claimed otherwise. The figure, along with other figures from NASA photo PIA 10214, was conclusive evidence of life on Mars. To the dispassionate observer, the female figure in the NASA photo was certainly curious. It was not however the kind of conclusive evidence necessary to declare that there was life on Mars.


Basiago's analysis of NASA photograph PIA 10214 was interesting, but he really stretched credibility when he claimed that in the same photo was evidence of a living Plesiosaur roving the Martian surface.



Dinosaurs on Mars?


According to Basiago, in photograph PIA 10214 there was evidence of a dinosaur on Mars:

The life forms contained in PIA10214 include,

  • humanoids with bulbous heads and elongated bodies, like those beings described in the UFO literature

  • animals still found on Earth, including lizards, frogs, snakes, alligators, and mantises

  • animals that once existed on Earth but are now extinct, including the reptile species plesiosaur, which has been advanced as a solution in the Loch Ness


NASA photograph PIA 10214 - a plesiosaur?


Yes, Basiago was claiming that an extinct water dwelling dinosaur lived on the Martian surface - a distant cousin of the Loch Ness monster.


To most observers, the so called Plesiosaur was at best a blurry image of something interesting on the Martian surface - probably nothing more than a rock formation. Not so according to Basiago's most important supporter, exopolitics author and former Examiner Alfred Webre.

Webre quickly became Basiago's de facto chief publicist and supporter, and ran a series of articles on his website and later his Examiner newsblog, enthusiastly supporting Basiago's claims.


I was privately approached by Webre and Basiago in early 2009 to lend my support to Basiago's findings and comment publicly on his Mars White Paper.


Not being a NASA image expert, I told them that they should get at least three independent experts to analyze the NASA images that Basiago had focused on. I mentioned Richard Hoagland as one, but Basiago declined and offered to find others to satisfy my request.


Almost two years later, in an email exchange with Webre in January 2011, I wrote the following about the alleged image experts that had been found to support Basiago's analysis:

In an earlier email in this exchange, you mentioned Andrew R. Stec, and Lewis B. Rhinehart.


All I could find about Stec is a webpage where he sells mars image posters for exorbitant prices. I have not been able to find anything about Rhinehart other than a mention on him as author/contributor on two articles on Basiago's website.


So far, neither of the two names you have given qualifies as an image expert despite their interest in Basiago's Mars research.


After all this time, it appears that Basiago & you have still not found credible image analysis experts to verify his work, even though there are many in the field who I'm sure would be willing to give an opinion, e.g., Mike Bara, Jim Dilettoso, etc.


So far, the only credible image analyst to comment on your work with Basiago has been Hoagland, who has dismissed it as nonsense.

My experience with Basiago's Mars Rover image analyses was that he was prepared to make sensational claims of discovering life on Mars without backing his analyses up with independent image experts.


My conclusion, was that Basiago was seeking attention with sensational interpretations of NASA images.


Webre had lost all objectivity in his uncritical support of Basiago's claims. He began to have conflictual relationships with myself and other colleagues wanting to distance themselves from the sensational claims made by Basiago.


Was Basiago simply a crackpot seeking attention, or was there a deeper agenda unfolding? We were soon to find out.

In February 2010 Basiago came forward to declare that he was a child participant in Project Pegasus, a DARPA program.


On his Project Pegasus website, Basiago explains:

Project Pegasus is a quest begun in 1968 by Andrew D. Basiago when he was serving as a child participant in the US time-space exploration program, Project Pegasus.


Project Pegasus was the classified, defense-related research and development program under the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in which the US defense-technical community achieved time travel on behalf of the US government - the real Philadelphia Experiment.


Project Pegasus was launched by the US government to perform "remote sensing in time" so that reliable information about past and future events could be provided to the US President, intelligence community, and military.


It was expected that the 140 American schoolchildren secretly enrolled in Project Pegasus would continue to be involved in time travel when they grew up and went on to serve as America's first generation of "chrononauts."

Basiago was not the first to have claimed that he had been recruited as a child participant in a classified program using advanced technologies.


Similar claims had been made by,

...and others.


There was much whistleblower evidence that some elements of the U.S. military industrial complex were indeed using children in highly classified programs. The children were put through trauma based mind control so their minds could compartmentalized in ways that could be easily exploited in these programs.


Was Basiago one of these experimental children? Quite possibly.


Given my experience with whistleblowers making such claims, there was much to be lost in making such claims, and little to be gained other than ruined reputations and careers. As a practicing attorney in the State of Washington, Basiago had much to lose if he perjured himself publicly.


Was there any proof of Basiago's new sensational claims of being a "chrononaut" with Project Pegasus?



National Archives:

Photo taken shortly after Lincoln's Gettysburg Address


Basiago found an archived photo of a scene at Lincoln's Gettysburg address, that showed a blurry image of a boy surrounded by men.


According to Basiago, he had traveled back in time as part of Project Pegasus, he declared that he was the figure in the photo. The boy's image in the photo was blurry, however, and not conclusive by any means. This did not deter Basiago and supporters. They claimed photographic evidence existed to support Basiago's claims of attending the Gettysburg address.


As with the NASA Rover images, was Basiago simply a crackpot seeking attention, or was there a deeper agenda unfolding? We need to dig deeper into Basiago's claims.

In an email exchange in January 2011, where I was challenging Webre's support of Basiago's NASA photo interpretation that Plesiosaurs existed on Mars, Webre responded:

With regard to the Mars Plesiosaur, please note that there is independent whistleblower testimony on record by persons who have been on Mars and who have personally seen and confronted Plesiosaurs on the surface of Mars.

When I asked Webre for clarification on who was the "independent whistleblower testimony" this is what he wrote:


Martian Plesiosaur

Andrew D. Basiago has publicly stated he has been on Mars twice in 1981, once in the company of Courtney Hunt of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency.


During the visit to Mars with Hunt, Andy and Hunt were confronted by a Martian Plesiosaur a short distance from the entrance to the U.S. underground base on Mars where both had landed via teleporter from El Segundo, California.


Both Andy and Courtney Hunt made a dash for the entrance to the underground base and reached it safely.
Reference: below video







So Webre finally revealed that the "independent whistleblower testimony" supporting Basiago's interpretation of Mars Rover images of living plesiosaurs on Mars was none other than Basiago himself.


Basiago was now claiming that as part of Project Pegasus, he had actually traveled to Mars using "teleportation" or "jump room" technology. Incredibly, he claims to have actually seen a Martian Plesiosaur.


This was a bizarre way of substantiating Basiago's earlier analysis of Mars Rover images and did not help avert the crackpot image. Aside from dinosaurs roving the Martian surface and eating stray humans, there was even more sensational claims to be made about participants in the Mars Program.

This time it would involve President Barack Obama himself.


According to Webre,

Two former participants in the CIA's Mars visitation program of the early 1980's have confirmed that U.S. President Barack H. Obama was enrolled in their Mars training class in 1980 and was among the young Americans from the program who they later encountered on the Martian surface after reaching Mars via "jump room…


According to Mr. Basiago and Mr. Stillings, in Summer 1980 they attended a three-week factual seminar about Mars to prepare them for trips that were then later taken to Mars via teleportation.


The course was taught by remote viewing pioneer Major Ed Dames.

In an interview on Coast to Coast Radio in October 2011, Basiago was confronted by Major Ed Dames who disputed his alleged involvement in such a program, and told Basiago not to involve him in "your fantasies" (below video, Part 4, at 17 minutes about):



Coast To Coast AM with...

Mars Visitor Andrew Basiago



There is certainly truth in the existence of a secret Mars program.


A number of whistleblowers have attested to such,

...and others have come forward.


The great granddaughter of President Eisenhower, Laura Magdalene Eisenhower even came forward to reveal attempts to recruit her into the secret Mars program, and named its head as Dr Hal Puthoff.


So if there is a secret Mars program, is Basiago correct in his detailed claims regarding it? Before reaching a final conclusion about Basiago's sensational claims, I will first examine Alfred Webre's relationship with Basiago and Project Pegasus.

In his former Examiner newsblog, Webre declared that he had actually come under DARPA Project Pegasus time surveillance as a "person of interest," back in 1971-72.


He wrote:

If in fact, DARPA's Project Pegasus had used its secret time travel technology to go forward in time from the early 1970s (or earlier) to 2005 (or later) and bring back my book Exopolitics: Politics, Government and Law in the Universe (Exopolitics - A Decade of Contact), then Project Pegasus also had the technological means and motive to identify me - Alfred Lambremont Webre - as a person of interest for time travel surveillance…


DARPA Project Pegasus had engaged in time travel surveillance of my life and timeline 1971 forward and wanted to know what whistleblower role I would play is assisting whistleblowers such as Andrew D. Basiago around the cover-up of U.S. government secret time travel and life on Mars deep state secrets.

So Webre claims that he was identified by DARPA Project Pegasus as someone that would in time assist Basiago in disclosing the truth about,

"U.S. government secret time travel and life on Mars deep state secrets."

So are Webre and Basiago telling the truth about Mars or again is there a deeper agenda at play?

Alfred Webre attended Yale University from 1960-64, four years ahead of fellow Yale student George Bush. Bush as is well known, was a member of Skull and Bones, one of Yale's secret societies.


Researchers have found that mind control is regularly used at Skull and Bones, and is part of the training of members for similar secret societies. What is not generally well known is that Webre was a member of another of Yale's secret societies, Scroll and Key as privately confided to this author by Webre himself some years ago.


Scroll and Key is described as follows:

The Scroll and Key Society is a secret society, founded in 1842 at Yale University, in New Haven, Connecticut. It is the wealthiest and second oldest [1][2] Yale secret society. Each year, the society admits fifteen rising seniors to participate in its activities and carry on its traditions.

As a former and/or current member of Scroll and Key, Webre was no stranger to secret societies and oaths, and the rituals performed therein.


Some of these rituals are a form of mind control and/or conditioning designed to make the recipient loyal over a lifetime, this would help explain Webre's erratic behavior over the years of his professional career and writing in the field of exopolitics.


Certainly in my experience and those of former colleagues of Webre during his five year tenure at the Exopolitics Institute, Webre's behavior and claims have been perplexing, controversial and divisive.


For example, he was "Secretary of Justice" of an online organization, Galactic Government actively selling land on the moon, and representing lunar owners.



So what is the ultimate agenda of Basiago and Webre?


In my conclusion, Basiago's and Webre's tasks are to disclose some of the truths about a secret Mars project but to do so in such a sensationalist way that it discredits any wanting to seriously study such claims.


This is a classic psychological warfare tool whereby the truth can be hidden in plain sight, and deter any serious investigation of what is happening.

  • Basiago's involvement as a child participant in Project Pegasus involved heavy mind control.

  • Webre's membership in Scroll and Key, involved a degree of mental conditioning if not outright mind control.

The result is that both Basiago and Webre are ideal candidates for a limited disclosure hangout concerning life on Mars.


Being part of an officially sanctioned psychological operation, helps explain why Basiago can still practice law in Washington State while making sensationalist claims, when other whistleblowers have lost their careers for doing far less.


My final conclusion is that Basiago is both a genuine whistleblower and a crackpot - by design.



January 16, 2012


Alfred Webre has clarified his Yale society membership:

"I was never in Scroll & Key at Yale...


I was in Torch & Talon, an 'underground' secret society that met twice weekly at a beach house we rented at Branford, CT and had 'encounter group' style meetings in the 1964 style, where we told our life stories and supported each other.


Torch & Talon is not longer active."










Andrew D. Basiago

...Responds to Michael Salla
15 January 2012

from Exopolitics.Blogs Website


[Bracketed materials are excerpts

from Michael Salla's letter to Andrew D. Basiago]

SALLA: <I have never called you a liar Andy.>

BASIAGO: True, but you have repeatedly attacked my public statements as untrue, despite the fact that from the beginning they have all been true and you have no evidence that they have not been true.

SALLA: <I think you are, without knowing it, still in a program where you are downloaded information to disseminate to others for an undisclosed agenda.>

BASIAGO: This is a mere supposition on your part. You have no factual basis to allege this theory of my case. I was a participant in two historic programs, DARPA's Project Pegasus, about which I have retrieved and communicated hundreds of facts, and the CIA's Mars visitation program, for which I have already proffered one participant and for which I will soon be proffering a second participant. I am simply sharing what happened to me.

SALLA: <You have ingratiated yourself with Alfred who has lost all reason and backed you to the point of discrediting himself in the wider exopolitics community.>

BASIAGO: You have no basis to make a judgment about the nature of my friendship with Alfred.


I have never ingratiated myself with anybody. You don't know me. Alfred and I are profound friends, strategic allies, and creative collaborators. Your assertion that you can characterize a friendship is highly presumptuous.

When you talk about Alfred discrediting himself in the exopolitics community, I ask:

Is this the Michael Salla who presented at [James] Gilliland's in 2006 about creating nature parks for human-ET interaction and then went on Coast to Coast AM and admitted that ET behavior has been characterized, for the most part, by stealth? Whose wife presented a lecture about swimming with the dolphins as a way to "channel ET"?

In comparison, Alfred has had the intelligence to recognize the significance of my experiences and has had the integrity to support my Truth Campaign.

SALLA: <Anyone who, like you, has been through trauma based mind control deserves support and sympathy.>

BASIAGO: Well, that's great, Michael. Problem is, I have never been through "trauma based mind control." Why do you insinuate that I have? I told you that I was subjected to efforts to make us comply with the secrecy regime and to not talk about what happened.


Your allegation of TBMC is unfounded and is an academic conceit that you have superimposed over the facts of my case. In fact, you have been too academically unprincipled to explore the facts of my case. You have made a snap judgment.

SALLA: <Uncritically accepting what such individuals have to say carries many risks as I have pointed out for others such as Dan Burisch, Charles Hall, etc.>

BASIAGO: In point of fact, you, who purports to be an historian of UFO history, have totally missed the boat by not examining my claims and realizing that my experiences reveal a whole new chapter in the US government's covert response to the ET situation.


In Project Pegasus, I was even trained in the ASTART alphabet for ET-human communication and you haven't even interviewed me. Along the way, you have made it your business to defame a respected colleague (Alfred) and a key whistle blower (Andy).


So, I have to ask:

  • Who are you working for?

  • The truth?

  • The intelligence community?

  • Which is it?

SALLA: <It's only when Alfred began uncritically supporting your claims that he lost all support and credibility.>

BASIAGO: Alfred has supported many people with different allegations and experiences and unlike you hasn't superimposed a misinformed judgment over them. I will leave it to him to make his judgments as to whose experiences he reports. I can say that he has sought not so much to be understood as to understand.


That's why his work has been groundbreaking and revolutionary and yours has been pedestrian and sterile.


It's almost like you're a gatekeeper for what the CIA wants to release about the ET situation. I think that at this point the balance of the equities indicates that you are an operative.


If you are not, then I would urge you to do some soul-searching and acknowledge that your egotism has caused you to fail to comprehend that I am a key whistleblower from within the postwar US defense community that was dealing with how to respond to perceived threats posed by the ETs and the Soviets.


Having said all that, I forgive you, just as I forgive everybody who fails to comprehend what I experienced.