Where do you find accurately
recorded historical data about the angles of sunrise/sunset
(preferably before 1999)? Here is a useful tool for calculating
the expected angles, which gives me fairly accurate results:
Comment by morpheusnotes -
July 19, 2015 @ 2:04 pm
Those of us who are old enough… have long memories in regard to
the behavior of the sun pre 1999. Especially those of us who
were engineers and scientists.
But also those who simply grow
houseplants in windows. I built a cat pen on one home on the
north side which never saw a hint of sunlight. Neither did my
aviary on the north side of another house. I did not care for
the perpetual shade and was disappointed my pets could not enjoy
the sunlight but those were the only available locations.
The north side is no longer shaded in summer.
Also, when choosing north side window glass tinting, polarizing
and coverings and simply planting the flowers around the house
exterior… the lack of direct sunlight was a factor on the north.
In home construction and design, the sun behavior is a key
We also have photos from the
pre-1999 years, etc. I don't expect the younger generations to
remember, but there are plenty of us who are old enough to
remember normal sun and normal weather patterns.
The sun never shown in the north windows until June 2005. I had
to move the TV and furniture because of this new sunlight in the
mornings and afternoons. Even the neighbors expressed concerns
before I did.
That is a cute App but totally inaccurate pre 1999. Not to
mention upside down angles for pre 1999. It is also clearly a
Google product. Even their current noon position on the app is
inaccurate since there is less than 1 inch of shadow at noon in
the center of the US in June.
A far cry north of a central Mexico
position that app depicts. Not to mention the Canadian Inuit
tribe has also noticed the changes in the sun. They don't
indulge in government app mind games.
That app is simply a false,
inaccurate propaganda toy specifically designed to manipulate
public perception. Why else would anyone create such an app
except to deceive? The only reason to deceive would be to cover
up something from the public.
This is just another government hireling scam to convince the
public that their eyes and memories are lying to them. To
justify the lies and keep the public off balance from asking
questions. Since the government can't hide the sun, they are
trying to convince the public it is perfectly normal to see the
sun in the north.
Anyone who wishes to buy into this shenanigan is welcome to do
so. They can believe whatever they wish. The rest of us will do
our own thinking and believe our own eyes without buying into
the government mind games intended to muddle the public's
Why else would anyone create such a solar angle app except to
pander a specific false concept for public consumption?
My only recommendation is for people to use their own eyes to
check out the sun by looking outside for themselves and using
No tricks. No mind games. No phony
Comment by mmc7 - July 19,
2015 @ 11:35 pm
Thanks mmc7 for your reply. I am old enough to remember that the
weather patterns of the previous century were different than
those we have today.
The climate change is indeed a fact
which would be hard to deny. However, since in those days I was
not very interested in gardening, and the trajectory of the sun
was of no interest to me, I didn't make any accurate
Your proposal to make our own measurements and recordings of the
sun's trajectory is excellent, and now that we are interested in
the subject, there is no reason why not to do it.
However I can not believe that such
reliable recordings about pre 1999 sun trajectory don't already
exists on the internet. I was asking you about such data source
because I assumed that you have done a thorough research on this
subject and found the data.
If such data is not available online here is my request to
anyone reading this, to check the offline libraries and other
data source for such recordings. Such data could help a great
deal to gain a deeper insight into the degree and speed of axis
shift and wobble.
The app is only using the Google Maps API as a tool. Its
calculations are based on Astronomy Answers formulae that
supposed to be on the page
which is not accessible anymore.
But since such astronomy answers
formulae have been put together by astronomers who follow the
orders of their sponsors, which is the government and the
oligarchs, we can certainly expect motivation to cover up the
I don't understand what you mean by saying,
"To really see how this app is
false, try Arm?"
"Even their current noon
position on the app is inaccurate since there is less than 1
inch of shadow at noon in the center of the US in June."
As far as I can see the app can not
calculate the length of the shadow at noon, so how can it be
wrong about it?
The orange curve shows only a
subjective or qualitative description of sun's trajectory, the
closer a point is to the center, the higher is the sun above the
But it gives no values about the
length of a shadow.
Comment by morpheusnotes -
July 20, 2015 @ 3:48 am
As for that strange sentence in my reply, I don't blame you for
being perplexed. I don't know where that sentence about "Arm"
It is quite puzzling. Sometimes I
use the Wacom pen OCR which translates my mouse pen handwriting
into screen text. More often than I would like, the translator
inserts and changes words I have written to something totally
different. I try to proofread everything but I apparently missed
the boat on this one.
This looks like a remnant of a
sentence which was partially deleted and adulterated by the
Wacom software translator.
The website software also did not
save a copy of my drafts so I'm at a loss as to the intended
origin of my sentence. I have deleted it and will give it some
thought as to what the original sentence may have said. I'm
drawing a blank.
I have kept a general track of the sun over the decades for many
reasons. In addition to the items I already mentioned, I also
installed a lot of solar lighting and motion sensors on one of
my homes. Full sunlight on those solar devices is a pertinent
So the north side of any building
was always a problem. I had also been involved with energy
saving designs of structures since the 70's which involved
maximizing the sunlight, window size and placement and shape of
the building to improve the heating and cooling costs.
Thus, the north side shadows have
always been a pertinent issue for various projects.
The reason I mentioned the "less than 1 inch" solar noon shadow
is because that was what I measured last month. There was
practically no shadow at all. But what little shadow existed,
was cast to the south.
If the sun was directly over central
Mexico as shown by that app then the shadow would have been a
lot longer than "under an inch" and certainly would not have
been cast to the south if the sun were as normal as that app
depicts. The shadow would have been longer and cast to the
One of the reasons I use pre-1999 as a "before the shift"
timeline is because I am not sure how much shifting occurred
prior to 2004. I know the first major shift was Dec 2004,
heralded by the Indonesian Tsunami.
However, there was a huge tsunami
wave captured by Satellite heading for Hong Kong on April 18th,
(2003 or 2004)… which was shown on an episode of "What on
I think they said it was a NASA
image and you could clearly see the wave hundreds of miles wide
heading for Hong Kong… but then it mysteriously dissipated. The
episode stated this wave occurred on April 18th, 2003 and then
later on the same episode stated it was the same date in 2004.
So I'm not sure which year and have not been able to find any
additional details about it.
This incident is totally missing
from all tsunami data. They only tell us about the tsunamis
which produced damage on sizeable, inhabited areas and becomes
This was just one example of an earlier axis shift which has
been buried from the public. Especially since it was not
produced in conjunction with an earthquake. They would rather
not have to explain the source of this tsunami. Since I was not
measuring the sun at the time, I don't know how much this shift
contributed to the positional shift measurements I began taking
However, one thing the data
indicates is the direction of the axis shifts since most of the
major tsunami's seem to be headed in a northwesterly direction
toward Asia and most occurring between Nov and April when the
most melting of the south pole glaciers is at its maximum. Thus
altering the weight and balance.
As far as actual measurement data for pre 1999, we cannot depend
on anything on the internet to be accurate regardless of the
source. They are quite thorough about altering and removing data
which differs from their official stance. The fake solar flare
story of Dec 2005 is a good example where they deleted records
and data to cover up an axis shift which misaligned the entire
They blamed it on a contrived
"historic" solar flare story 5 months after the incident.
They waited 5 months until the week
after a meeting with international scientists from around the
world to announce this "flare". After they got all of the
scientists on board they announced the cover story a week later.
If there had been a "historic solar flare" NASA certainly would
not have waited 5 months to brag about their finding.
It also took them some time to write
a software patch to correct the GPS readouts to accommodate the
misalignment in the satellite network. GPS is also used for
synchronizing timing of most major critical computer, telephone
and financial systems… so this was something else they did not
want publicized. I really had to dig to find the records they
overlooked and the details behind the cover up.
I also managed to find a weather
satellite video of the actual shift.
I had also been invited to that
international meeting of scientists but couldn't attend due to
health problems, not to mention the costs involved… but I was
aware of the US government pressure to obtain cooperation for
global scientists to,
"not panic the public with the
axis shift and to support the fake flare cover story."
However, printed books and old
photos would be sources they could not change.
I have a considerable library so I
may find something in there or in my vast collections of photos
to compare the shadows. If my health ever improves, perhaps I
can dig into the pre 1999 data better.
We can't do anything about the planet shifting but we can track
it and be aware of significant changes as a harbinger to
indicate how soon the final shift may occur. (the government
seems to be planning for a global calamity between 2020 and 2026
based on their statements and actions). Just being aware of the
changes to our axis situation gives us a better chance of
survival. Staying away from coastlines and living above 300 ft
elevation are two things we can do to improve survival.
However, there is a distinct
possibility that the final shift may be so profound that it
could produce monstrous tsunamis which could cover a continent
like the movie 2012.
I have wondered if one of those 11
prior axis shifts was how the mid and west US became flooded.
Especially since a global ice melt would only raise the sea
levels by 300 ft, but the regions of the US which were once
covered in salt water are quite a bit higher than 300 ft.
However, if a monster tsunami from a
past axis shift covered the continents with water, hundreds of
feet deep, it would have taken thousands of years to evaporate
into the dry salt lakes we see in the western US. The dry salt
lakes were the last pools of evaporated sea water. It would also
explain why the river cut so deeply into creating the grand
canyon where the water was cutting down to reach the sea levels.
Just a thought.
After seeing the Indonesian Tsunami
of 2004 which covered the coastlines from SE Asia to Africa, a
larger, more dramatic shift of the planet could create a monster
wave which could surge across a continent and cover it. There
are several areas where there is sea water trapped behind a
mountain range covering villages under hundreds of feet of
We see this situation in Europe and
in South America and Arabia where there are inland salt lakes.
Such a surge from one of the 11 prior axis shift, monster
tsunami's would explain a lot of these issues.
Keeping track of our progressing current situation and changes
to the sun position will also be invaluable when it comes to
knowing where to go and what to do after the final shift occurs.
Those of us who are informed will be
much better off than those who depend on the government to
inform them of the situation.
The government will be in their
underground shelters without a word of warning while leaving
everyone else to the tender mercies of troops empowered by
Martial Law. The ramifications are clearly defined in the
concerning FEMA powers which
are easily accessible for the public to read.
I usually don't know the age group of anyone who posts a
comment. When dealing with those under the age of 30, they are
not old enough to have memories or experience with noticing
northern shadows and sunlight patterns prior to 2000.
When I see the younger generations so uninformed and oblivious
to the levels of government corruption and accepting cover
stories without question… it truly worries me. Especially when
they also lash out at the messengers trying to educate them on
these details and events.
After we are gone, if those who are
younger do not keep the government activities in check and
maintain oversight, the government is capable of far worse
atrocities than they have already committed… and their list of
past exploits is quite heinous. Just imagine how bad they could
become without oversight to keep them in check.
There are now cameras on every
corner and every aspect of our lives are being tagged and traced
and monitored in every way imaginable. Even the voting machines
have been corrupted as have most politicians whether local or
If the axis shift doesn't do us in over the next few years, I
shudder to think what things will be like in 100 years. Those
who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
Once people become accustomed to government corruption and
having no privacy or freedoms, they will no longer realize what
they have lost or missing.
Comment by mmc7 - July 21,
2015 @ 9:19 am
We have mentioned that the
http://suncalc.net can not
display the expected length of shadow, and it is not easy to
verify its accuracy.
Therefore I have found two other
pages that calculate the sunrise/sunset and solar position and
also display the numbers, so we can perform our own observations
and compare it with the predicted values.
Here are the two pages:
On the 22nd July I
have performed my own measurement and compared it with the
predicted numbers on these two pages. First I have found my
latitude and longitude on the page
Then using these coordinate on the
sunrise/sunset calculator I have got the exact time of the
expected solar noon. Next I have hung up a 2m long curtain pole
in the yard on a thin thread, so the only about 5mm gap was
between the bottom of the pole and a plank underneath.
The plank was oriented in N-S
direction and was adjusted to be level. Waited until the pole's
swing died off (in a windless moment) and fixed its position to
the plank with a wedge. Now I have had a vertical pole and a
horizontal plane for the shadow.
At exactly the expected solar noon I have marked the end of the
shadow on the plank, measured its length and direction. Then
calculated the elevation:
L - length of the pole; l -
length of the shadow; and the elevation in degrees is
calculated as El=atn(L/l).
Next I have entered the required
input values into the solar position calculator for the time of
the solar noon when the measurement took place and compared the
predicted solar elevation value with the number I have
calculated fro my measurement.
The two calculators gave very
accurate values confirmed with my measurement.
So the length of the shadow is
accurately predicted by these calculators.
I don't want to disclose my location, therefore I will not
provide here my measured numbers, but this experiment is so
simple and requires so little investment and effort that anybody
doubting my words can easily replicate it.
If it gives accurate results for my location, then I don't see
any reason why it would not do the same for any other location.
If you are looking for the most
northerly circle where there is no shadow on the summer
solstice, the tropic of cancer that was at 23°26′14.2″ this
year. If you want you can check out the length of the shadow
predicted by the solar position calculator.
I checked it, and it predicts a
solar elevation of 89.97degrees which is just about exactly
above head, therefore no shadow.
Comment by morpheusnotes -
July 23, 2015 @ 1:54 pm
There are several issues with those methods. Not to mention
missing the sunrise and sunset.
If you had the sun directly overhead
and you live north of the official tropic of Cancer which runs
through mid Mexico then the sun was not where it was supposed to
Tens of thousands of people who are visiting this site are doing
so because they can all see that the sun is now rising and
setting to the north of the US where it never was pre 1999.
Again, these other sites are specifically designed to make
people doubt their own eyes. I already know the truth so it
makes no difference to me whether others believe or not. I
provide the info for those who want to know and show them how to
measure and verify the sun for themselves. They can make up
their own minds without anyone trying to muddle the data. I have
nothing to gain either way.
I'd go into more detail on these issues if I had more time to
spare. I highly recommend that everyone should do their own
measurements each solstice to track the changes and don't take
anyone's word for it.
It is simple to do and the sun
position is the one thing the government cannot hide.
Comment by mmc7 - July 23,
2015 @ 2:51 pm
You have mentioned in one of the above comments that:
"I had also been invited to that
international meeting of scientists but couldn't attend due
to health problems, not to mention the costs involved… but I
was aware of the US government pressure to obtain
cooperation for global scientists to "not panic the public
with the axis shift and to support the fake flare cover
Since you have been invited to that
important international meeting of scientists, then I suppose
you are a scientist yourself.
What kind of scientist are you?
What is the field of science you
are expert of?
Comment by morpheusnotes - July
24, 2015 @ 4:40 am
Sorry. I don't give out personal info.
This site is solely to inform people of the axis shift situation
and ramifications. I provide info to the public on how to make
their own measurements so they can easily verify the data for
themselves without any government propaganda.
I post info on how to easily track
the changes annually which will enable everyone to have a better
idea of what to expect based on their own observations.
This is an honest site without any pressures from me or
government hirelings with agendas. It is up to each person
to decide for themselves which they can base on their own
measurements of the changes in the position of the sun.
As I said, I have nothing to gain or lose. I already know the
The public can make their own
measurements and decide for themselves without any
pressure or interference.
Comment by mmc7 - July 24,
2015 @ 11:27 am