Bill Homann: The technology, whoever made it, is something that
really couldnít be recreated. And thereís so much in the Skull that
the more you study it, the more unusual it is. So...
Kerry Cassidy: In what way do you think the technology is so
special? Could you explain what you mean by that?
BH: Yeah. The technology. Well, the fact is...
KC: Could it be created today if you had a crystal this big?
BH: Well, the problem is the carving of the jaw, and thatís what is
so exciting and messes up the scientists. The scientists want to
come in. Theyíve made tests and they found they couldnít find any
kind of tool marks or anything on the whole Skull.
But there were
some around the jaw and the teeth. But when Dorland cracked the
tooth when it was at Hewlett-Packard, he did restoration on it to
repair it. So itís hard to say where the markings came from.
But the thing is... Even so, the thing that blows the scientistsí
minds is... the fact is they canít figure out how the Skull was
separated. And being separated, and with Hewlett-Packardís tests,
the top half of the Skull and the jaw are the same piece of crystal.
BH: And that right there... how they can separate the two... the
technology, even today, would be pretty much impossible. And the
fact, is how they put prisms inside the Skull, how they put the
lenses in there that work to the eye sockets. That would take zero
gravity to try to do it today. And really I donít think we could
really duplicate it in zero gravity.
So who did it, how they did it, thatís what makes the Skull so
interesting. But the real thing about the Skull, what it is, is what
you feel about it, you know. People pick up this energy, this
KC: Well crystals in general will give you energy. You can find
amethyst with your hands. I get energy. The reason why Iím doing
this ... I get energy with my hands. And I can feel vortexes.
BH: OK. Did you feel it outside?
KC: Yes, I did.
BH: Yeah. I mean itís not like it...
KC: Itís not like right here.
BH: The waves...
KC: Itís waves going out.
BH: When you put your hands by it, itís a connection to it.
BH: You have your hands out here, you can feel it. You can be out
across the street, really...
KC: Well I actually felt it when we were coming up the stairs. I
could feel... Thereís a vibration now thatís going on down the hall
so to speak because of the presence of the thing.
BH: So thatís the kind of... Itís a little unusual than, you know,
not just because of itís crystal by itself.
KC: So, how many years has this Skull been in your life?
BH: Letís see, probably about - off and on - for probably 12
KC: OK. And what... Has it changed your life, do you feel?
BH: Completely. Yeah. Yeah. Itís... Especially my life now is just
like a fast-moving river. Things happen. Itís like... If I can just
take a month, like August.
August: I went to Germany, Switzerland, Austria, met a lot of
people, did a lot of lectures. Come back. Somebody from England
comes over and stays with me. Somebody from Italy comes and stays
with me. One of them, maybe the person from Italy, wanted to stay
right to the last time, the last day, and then I took off and went
to Sedona and Scottsdale and did lectures. Get back and then I do
another. Itís just like... never-ending... [laughs]
KC: So it takes you... it kind of like links you the rest of the
people on the planet.
BH: Right. And also it pulls me and puts me in positions. Like, Iím
down here. I donít know exactly why. But, you know, Iím running into
these people that have the need to be here, the need. Iím finding
the country to be an amazing place. And I think thereís some really
special energy spots.
And the Skull, one of the jobs it does, it works on the heart
chakra, opening peoplesí hearts to this universal love.
But what it also does is, it works on the
ley lines of the Earth.
And it helps to balance out the energy. And whatís so important with
the shift thatís coming in 2012... Itís like, if the Earth is out of
balance at all when all this energy hits it, itís going to... You know,
itíll just fly anywhere, you know. We really wouldnít want to see
what could happen.
But if we can work with people on these grid lines and open up the
energy and make it in balance, then the energy hitting it could make
it a lot less. Thatís one of the reasons I do this.
KC: Have you been to Stonehenge and to Egypt, to the Pyramids?
BH: I have to go to Egypt to the Pyramids. And the Skull has been at
KC: So you still have to go to the Pyramids.
BH: Yeah. And I feel thatís important, one of my important things
that I need to go. Itís not just there. I think itís Spain, Thebes,
or wherever, that area is supposed to be special area. It has some
kind of energy I need to go to.
BH: But I find that where Iím supposed to go, people call and say:
Hey, weíd like to do a lecture here. It seems to be the right place.
So if thatís the place, weíll be there.
KC: I see.
BH: OK. It was found in 1924.
KC: I listened to your lecture...
KC: ...but wasnít sure where you kind of stepped in.
BH: OK. Yeah. What happened is, it was found...
had it since the Mayans gave it back to him in 1927.
KC: But that marvelous young girl found it.
BH: Yes. It was his adopted daughter Anna. They found it together.
BH: But he had it till í59. When he passed away, it went back to
Anna and she had it till 2007.
BH: Yeah. In 2007... But, what happened is, I met her. Thereís a lot
of things in Annaís life and Mitchell-Hedgesí life that had
paralleled things that happened to me. I was in Panama, a lot of the
places they were at. And I had an open connection right away to the
Skull when I saw pictures of it. In Ď81 I heard about it, where it
was at, and I went up to see her and met with her and we became
really good friends.
And she allowed me to go with her when she did different lectures
and stuff all over the world. And so I was able to take her around
the world to all these different sites, spiritual sites, around the
world. And so that was... We became really good friends.
an amazing, amazing person, someone I have total respect for. Sheís
a really neat person.
KC: So is she still alive?
BH: No. What happened is, she traveled with... You know, she moved
from place to place a lot, so she moved from Canada to England,
England back to Canada. These were full moves, with new houses and
BH: And then she came back in early 2000. And she was in Canada, and
she was very sick. And I talked to her on the phone and I said...
There was no one really around her at the time. So I said: Come to
Indiana and Iíll take care of you. And she decided to do that. And
she came down there. And she spent the last 8 years of her life with
me, and I took care of her.
And she taught me what she wanted to be done with the Skull, how it
was supposed to be handled, and what she believed in.
And so I gave my word. And thatís what Iím doing right now, is
carrying out my word. My word was that I would take the Skull up and
make it available to people that felt the importance of it, OK?
People that felt... Not everybody is drawn to the Skull, but some
people are really drawn to the Skull and they come from all over.
by opening it up to those people, thatís part of what I... my
promise... that I promised to her. And thatís what Iím doing.
KC: OK. And what is... like, was there a religious significance for
Anna and the Skull?
BH: And the Skull? Well you know what, Anna and myself... You know,
Iím a very spiritual person. I feel the connection to god very
closely and very importantly. Iím not at this point in my life a
ďreligiousĒ person in the fact that I donít believe in the dogma of
religion, but I work on the spirituality.
Iím working on... I believe that the true essence of religion is
inside, in the person, and going into that person and finding that
connection is what I feel itís all about. And the Skull is a tool
The Mayas believed it was a god. To them it was like their god had
returned. But what it really is, itís a tool to open the heart to
the universal love.
So I feel a connection with the Skull and I feel, spiritually, if I
can help people, if I can help the world, and use the tool to do it,
thatís what I feel is a very important job.
KC: Did Anna believe in the spiritual side, or did she believe in
more of the religious side?
BH: Anna was a very spiritual person.
BH: As a matter of fact, you know, we had friends... We had this one
friend, she was a secretary for Mother Theresa and worked with
Mother Theresa for a while. And she met Anna. She said Anna had the
same vibration as Mother Theresa. And thatís how she was. She was a
person that if you met her, itís like you knew her all your life.
And she made you feel that way.
BH: But she also... You know, she was very connected to the other
side, so connected it was just like... In the last part of her life,
there was so much psychic and different forces around her, it was
just like unbelievable. It was like the veil between the other side
and her was just so close, it was just like it was popping through.
It was pretty amazing. So she was a very spiritual person. And very
KC: So did she ever talk about any beings that were associated with
BH: Yes. Yeah. She felt... Well, there are different beings that have
connection with the Skull and they are the ones that work through
it. The Mayans are very connected to the Skull. The Mayans of
Lubaatun, that area, theyíre not... Theyíre a Mayan group thatís
different than the average Mayan and they have connections with the
ETs and they have connections with the Skulls.
KC: OK. Do you know which ETs?
BH: Letís see. Iím not... I wouldnít say... Probably
probably are the ones.
BH: Tall blonds. Yeah.
KC: Where are you from originally?
BH: Like Indiana Jones.
BH: [laughs] Sounds good, right? I love adventure.
KC: That makes sense.
BH: Life is an adventure with the Skull. It keeps you really going
KC: So in a sense you didnít actually start your journey until 2007,
would you say?
BH: No. My journey is, you know... started, as far as taking it
around and doing stuff with people, it really started after Anna
passed away. She passed away on my birthday in 2007. And she found
it on her birthday, her 17th birthday.
BH: Yeah. And she passed it to me on my birthday.
KC: On your birthday...
BH: It wasnít my 17th, though. [laughs]
KC: Surprise, surprise!
Bill Ryan: Kerry, I have one or two questions. I wonder if you could
also capture me just briefly with this beautiful object.
KC: Weíre here for a half hour. Thatís all we have here.
BR: And that may be just about over.
KC: Other people have booked sessions, is my understanding.
BR [sits down]: I donít come from Indiana, but Iíve got the hat...
BH: [laughs] I was admiring that hat. Thatís cool.
BR: So Iíve been a little bit of an adventurer in my time. Iím very,
very curious about the Crystal Boy. Now Iím certainly not going to
be asking you any information about locations or plans or logistics,
but what is your feeling of the importance of that?
BH: I feel... You know, I feel that these different objects are
pieces of importance in a puzzle. And the Skull is an important
piece and also the Crystal Boy is an important piece.
BR: And there will be more.
BH: Yeah. When they come together, different things, or very
powerful things, can happen. Iím not saying that the Crystal
Boy... like each object has its special gift and special purpose. The
Crystal Boy, we donít know exactly what its... what it does... but I
know itís probably a very important piece in this overall puzzle
that weíre working on.
BR: And you do have plans to retrieve this, I assume?
BH: Yes. And, see, what it is... Well, the way I want to retrieve it
is... You know, I could have retrieved it with NBC, which would have
been fine, but I think they would not have had the right thing for
the Skull. It would not have been...
BR: The right energy.
BH: The right energy. It would not have gone to the right place. It
would probably have been locked up in some... It needs to go with
someone... You know, I would find it. but it wouldnít be like: Oh I
want to keep the Skull with me. Iíd like to find it and have it go
with some of the spiritual leaders, maybe down in that area...
BH: ...as long as theyíre
going to work together so we can work on this
evolvement that weíre working on.
BR: Yes. But you do have some kind of a plan for how youíre going to
BH: Yes. I have a plan.
BR: In my sense, this is important.
BH: Yeah, I do have a plan. And itís just... This year has been one
thing after another and I thought I would have been able to do it by
now but I just havenít had the chance.
BR: This is a serious offer
- you must have heard this from many
other people - if you want anyone to follow you around with a
camera, weíre equipped to do this. And it would be a huge privilege
KC: We do... We did interview somebody. Her name is
and they're talking about having a major gathering of the Peoples of
the planet, mainly with the Hopi and the Maya coming forward and
talking about the prophecies. And they feel also that indigenous
people everywhere should be sort of connecting with this gathering.
And the Crystal Skull may be an important ingredient in that. So Iím
just throwing that out to you. This would be happening in Hopiland.
And I wonder if youíve been to the Hopi.
BH: Iím a very good friend of someone I really care about and
respect, is Grandfather Martin, and heís the Elder and heís the
Prophet for the Hopi Nation.
BH: And so I am very much for the Hopis and I believe in their work
and what theyíre doing.
KC: And have you brought the Skull to
BH: Yes I have. Thatís one of the things that I was drawn to do and
we did that this year.
BH: And we met with them several times, just, a matter of fact, the
last time was just two weeks ago.
KC: Oh, really? OK. So you were probably right near me. I now live
BH: OK. So, yeah. I was in Sedona. I was in...
KC: I thought I heard that youíd been around.
BH: Yep. Well, I was in Scottsdale. I left there, letís see... Two
weeks ago I was in, well it wasnít even two weeks ago, it was last
week I was in Sedona. I was in Angel Valley, doing a lecture for
BH: But two weeks before that I was in Scottsdale. And then from
Scottsdale I went up to Sedona and did some work with the Hopi and
stuff. It was very interesting. Did you ever hear of the Crystal Orb?
KC, BR: No.
Crystal Orb is a very special thing. It was found about 30
years ago by a gentleman called Ray Brown. If you look on some of
the internet you can probably find some of that. He was really big
at the time.
Ray Brown was scuba diving on this island near Bimini.
BR: Iíve heard this story. Incredible story.
BH: Yeah. He went on this, and he found this in a pyramid?
BH: OK. Well the people that were with him went back out looking for
stuff and they were mysteriously killed. But he was left. And he
passed away a couple of years later, and he gave the Orb to his
teacher, telling him never to show the Orb to anybody until the
BR: Yes. Right.
BH: OK? Well I did a show for NBC, and it was about the Crystal
Skull and me looking for stuff and he wondered what I was talking
And when I was doing this he watched it and he saw the Skull and saw
me and he felt that he had to show the Orb to me and that they
needed to be together. But he thought that it was ridiculous because
he didnít know where I was or anything.
So what happened is, I was going out there for a lecture to an area
where I meet these two people, and they said they had a friend there
and the friend... they were talking about the Orb... and she said: I
know where it is but I canít tell anybody. He said: Well tell him
the Skullís coming. Maybe he wants to see it. And when he did that,
he was all excited.
We brought the Orb and the Skull together. And when we brought the
Orb and Skull together for the first time... We did it twice, and
the second time something different happened. But the first time,
the Skull turned white and the Orb turned gold.
KC: Wow. Wonderful.
BH: But the thing is, the amazing thing about that is, I have a
picture. I can show it to you.
BR: I would love to see this.
KC: Yes. We would. Absolutely.
BR: I read about this Orb in
Charles Berlitzís book on the Bermuda Triangle (El
TriŠngulo de Las Bermudas) many years ago and Iíve never forgotten that. It lodged in
my mind. I thought: This is incredibly important. I thought it had
BH: It did disappear for all those years, until it just came out.
And what happened is... You know, the Orb... Itís a crystal ball,
and it has three pyramids built inside of it.
BR: Mm hm.
BH: But... And itís pure crystal. But when we put them together, the
Skull turned white and the Orb turned gold. If you look around his
hand, you can see white light shooting around.
BR: That is amazing. Do you have plans to do more, to work more,
with the Skull and the Orb?
BH: Oh, of course, yeah. Weíre just getting very good together. As a
matter of fact, a couple weeks ago I was able to get together with
them again and when we did it this time, the Skull turned blue and
the... It was blue light going all over the ground.
And the next day weíre in this room that had yellow table cloths and
yellow walls. And youíre looking at this through the viewfinder on
the camera and it was yellow walls and yellow table cloths. And when
you took the picture, the Skull turned blue, the table cloths turned
blue and the walls turned blue. And we took about 15 pictures and
every time it did the same thing.
BH: So, some pretty strong energy thatís involved. When an
Orb and Atlantean Skull get together itís a major... I think there
was a connection, an old connection.
BR: And there must be more.
BH: Oh, yeah. Thereís more. And thatís what weíre doing right now,
is weíre putting a call out to try to bring this stuff forward. I
believe a lot of the ancient people, the Mayas, or whatever, have
some of this stuff in their own possession that theyíre afraid to
bring out because they know if it comes out the government tries to
take it away from them.
BR: And the Tibetans. They have some there, too. Thereís no doubt at
BH: Yeah. And I think maybe even thereís some here in Australian. I
think the aborigines might have a Skull. And thereís a possibility
that when I bring this Skull down there, we might bring the Skulls
together. And if that happens I think that could be a major thing.
BH: It might be one of the reasons why Iím here.
BR: Of course. Iím sure that you feel that youíre on a great sense
of mission and youíre not totally sure what it is, but youíre going
down this river.
BH: Yeah. Just going with the flow.
BR: Going with the flow, and you donít really understand this.
KC: The journey is the message. Well thatís wonderful. And for the
sake of the camera, can you please tell us your name?
BH: My name is
KC: Homann. OK. And the original person who had it was Anna...
BH: OK. It was found by F.A. Mitchell-Hedges and
F.A. Mitchell-Hedges was a famous British explorer.
They are people that need to... people to know about... because in
this day and age you donít have any heroes. And they were heroes.
And they did the... They walked. They didnít just do the talk, they
did the walk, and thatís pretty neat.
So thatís one of the reasons I go around, to get people know about