October 16, 1994

Freddie, Laura, V___

Q: Hello.
A: Hello. Music is Good.

Q: (L) Can you give us your name?
A: Cederra.

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the origin of the Freemasons?
A: Osirians.

Q: (L) Can you tell us when the original Freemasons formed as a society?
A: 5633 B.C.

Q: (L) Is Freemasonry as it is practiced today the same?
A: 33rd degree, yes.

Q: (L) So, there is a continuing tradition for over 7 thousand years?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this organization with a plan to take over and rule the world?
A: Not exactly.

Q: (L) What is their focus?
A: Overseers.

Q: (L) Of what?
A: The status of Quorum.

Q: (L) What is the Quorum?
A: Deeper knowledge organization. Totally secret to your kind as of yet. Very important with regard to your future.

Q: (L) In what way?
A: Changes.

Q: (L) Can you get more specific? Is that changes to us personally?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) Earth changes?
A: Also.

Q: (L) What is the relationship between this quorum and the Cassiopaeans?
A: They communicate with us regularly.

Q: (L) Do they do this knowing you are Cassiopaeans or do they do it thinking...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Has there been an ongoing relationship between the Cassiopaeans and this quorum for these thousands of years?
A: For some time as you measure it.

Q: (L) What is the origin of the Kaballah?
A: Channeled truths given to early pre-Mosaic Jews to use your terminology.

Q: (L) When the Jewish commentators began setting down the teachings, was this the first time this had been put into writing?
A: No. Not even close.

Q: (L) Is the form that it is in today very close to the original form and can it be relied upon?
A: No. Corrupted.

Q: (L) What is the origin of the books of Enoch?
A: Sanskritian society in area now referred to as India.

Q: (L) What evaluation can we give the books of Enoch as far as level of truth?
A: 50% of area was destroyed in nuclear conflagration in between

Q: (L) In between what?
A: Then and now in the expanded present.

Q: (L) What is the “expanded” present?
A: The real measure of time.

Q: (L) Who was Hermes Trismegistus?
A: Traitor to court of Pharoah Rana.

Q: (L) Who is Pharoah Rana?
A: Egyptian leader of spiritual covenant.

Q: (L) In what way was Hermes a traitor?
A: Broke covenant of spiritual unity of all peoples in area now known as Middle East.

Q: (L) Who did Hermes betray?
A: Himself; was power hungry.

Q: (L) What acts did he do?
A: Broke covenant; he inspired divisions within ranks of Egyptians, Essenes, Aryans, and Persians et cetera.

Q: (L) What was his purpose in doing this?
A: Divide and conquer as inspired by those referred to as Brotherhood in Bramley book you have read.

Q: (L) Is this the Brotherhood of The Snake Hermes formed in rejection of unity?
A: Hermes did not form it; it was long since in existence.

Q: (L) Who was the originator of the Brotherhood of the Serpent as described in Bramley's book?
A: Lizard Beings.

Q: (L) Where did Moses get his knowledge?
A: Us.

Q: (L) Okay, you told us before that he saw or interacted with a holographic projection created by the Lizard Beings. Was that the experience on Mount Sinai?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, well, if he got knowledge from you, did he get this prior to the interactions with the Lizard beings?
A: Yes. He was corrupted by imagery. He was deceived by the imagery a la Joseph Smith, for example.

Q: (L) Are you saying that Joseph Smith, the recipient of the Mormon texts, was deceived by the Lizards also?
A: Yes. They do that a lot.

Q: (L) Why did it take so long for us to get a “good source” through this medium?
A: Too many interactions with channel cancellers.

Q: (L) Who are the individuals are channel cancellers?
A: It would not be our way to name names.

Q: (L) Do you mean people we have had involved in our lives?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does it have anything to do with our activities?
A: No.

Q: (L) Does it involve other entities that have tried to come through that have blocked the channel?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they Lizards?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are there any exercises we can use to help our bodies transform into fourth density?
A: Not necessary. It is the soul that matters.

Q: (L) Does this mean that if we focus on soul development, that at the time of transformation that our bodies will automatically be transformed for us?
A: No. It is natural process. No preparation is needed.

Q: (L) So, if you are meant to transform, you will, if you are not you won’t?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this mean that when my body reacts to certain foods that I should stop eating them? Is my body trying to tell me something?
A: Up to you. Nothing needs to “tell” you anything.

Q: (L) Can you clarify that?
A: Why are you searching for guidance where it is not needed?

Q: (L) In other words, if we just do each day what naturally comes to us as the best choice in each moment, we are on the right track?
A: Precisely.

Q: (V) I find the information of transforming to the fourth dimension very exciting and natural which is why I ask if this is going to be something I will experience in the future excluding death?
A: Vague.

Q: (L) If, theoretically, an individual... I am getting a very unusual feeling right at this moment, why?
A: Metabolic changes enhanced by accelerated learning.

Q: (L) Is this happening to all three of us?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, as I was starting to say, if, theoretically an individual was to develop in a natural way by making all the proper choices, and was to arrive at the point in time when the major transition is to be made, would that individual’s body pass through into that heightened dimension in a physical state? Remember, this is just a theoretical person...
A: Of course.

Q: (L) Now suppose this theoretical person were to pass through this transition to the other side, what state would they find their body in? Would it be exactly as it is now in terms of solidity? What would be the experience?
A: The key concept here is variability of physicality.

Q: (L) Does this mean that everybody will be different or that an individual will have greater control over the substance and constitution of the body?
A: Not exactly either. Your physicality will be variable according to need and circumstance.

Q: (L) Okay, does this mean that sometimes we will be more of a light body?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Does this mean that sometimes we will be more of a firm body as we have now?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will our bodies age differently?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What will be the median lifespan?
A: 400 years

Q: (L) And will those who pass through this transition as, say, 50 year olds, will they have an equal opportunity to live an additional 400 years?
A: Will regenerate in youthful appearance.

Q: (L) Now, when you say 400 years, will it be that the plane has a different orbit and that a year will be different?
A: No.

Q: (L) Will the days be different as to length of time light and dark as they are now?
A: Not the point. Planet will be 4th density as well.

Q: (L) But will the days and nights be different and will the orbit be different? Will the axial angle be changed?
A: You are thinking in terms of the 3rd level density. The rules will be so totally different that physical inspired comparisons are moot.

Q: (L) But I like the sunshine and birds singing and breezes. I just want to know if those things will be the same.
A: In some fashion.

Q: (L) Can’t you give a few clues?
A: We must let you see for yourself.

Q: (V) I had an experience with Preying Mantis beings. Who are they?
A: Minturians.

Q: (L) Where are they from?
A: Orion.

Q: (L) Are the Orions the bad guys?
A: Subjective.

Q: (L) Well, what group do they belong to?
A: Federation as do the Pleiadians.

Q: (L) Did they abduct me or what is the source of this memory?
A: It is a memory of a past life held in the deep subconscious level.

Q: (L) What did they do to me?
A: Retroprogramming for learning purposes.

Q: (L) For what?
A: Lessons are to be learned by you not told by us.

Q: (L) Why did the grays abduct V___?
A: To try to encode her to destroy herself.

Q: (L) Has she overcome this programming?
A: Hopefully. There is always room for error. Remember, free will is the most important law of consciousness in creation.

Q: (V) I had a dream about being a teacher and showing small children how to use light and color. Was this precognition?
A: Probably.

Q: (L) Would this probability be within the next ten years?
A: Listen. Open.

Q: (L) What is the meaning of the number 666 in the book of Revelation?
A: Visa.

Q: (L) You mean as in credit card?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are credit cards the work of what 666 represents?
A: Yes?

Q: (L) Should we get rid of all credit cards?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) Would it be more to our advantage than not to disconnect ourselves from the credit system?
A: Isn’t just credit also debit.

Q: (L) Is that an affirmative.
A: How are you going to do this?

Q: (L) Well, do you have any suggestions?
A: World will soon have nothing but credit and debit have you not heard of this new visa debit cards this is the future of money as controlled by the world banking system i.e. the brotherhood i.e. Lizards i.e. antichrist.

Q: (L) If I don’t have a credit card then I don’t have to belong to this system?
A: No. You will have no choices: belong or starve.

Q: (L) What happened to free will?
A: Brotherhood aka Lizards aka antichrist has interfered with free will for 309,000 years. They are getting desperate as we near the change.

Q: (V) It has always been my nature to rebel against that which I did not feel was good for me. Is rebellion against this system possible?
A: If you are willing to leave the body.

Q: (L) Leave the body as in death, croak, kick the bucket?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) If we were to move...
A: Changes will follow turmoil, be patient.

Q: (L) We would like to move into the country. Will it be possible to get along without this credit/debit card leading that kind of life?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they going to have the kind of capability of controlling everything and everybody no matter where they are?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Even if we moved to Guyana and built a log hut in the rain forest and didn’t bother anybody, we’d still get sucked into this thing?
A: Laura you will feel the effect of the Lizard beings desperate push for total control no matter where you go.

Q: (L) That is inexpressibly depressing. Do you understand?
A: Why? Change will follow.

Q: (L) Will it follow soon?
A: You are slipping a bit. Refer to Literature “Bringers of the Dawn”. Challenge will be ecstasy if viewed with proper perspective which is not, we repeat: not of third level reality, understand?

Q: (L) In the reference cited, Joan of Arc is described as feeling ecstatic while burning at the stake. Is that what you mean?
A: Sort of, but you need not burn at the stake.

Q: (L) That’s small comfort. There’s other ways to die.
A: We are not speaking of death, Laura. If you listen to those who are firmly rooted in 3rd level this is when you run the risk of slipping in your knowledge learned no matter how good the intentions i.e. Lewis.

Q: (L) What do you mean about Lewis?
A: Guyana.

Q: (L) What do you mean “Challenge will be ecstasy”? What sort of challenge?
A: Living through the turmoil ahead.

Q: (L) Several books I have read have advised moving to rural areas and forming groups and storing food etc...
A: Disinformation. Get rid of this once and for all. That is 3rd level garbage.

Q: (L) We feel pretty helpless at the mercy of beings who can come in and feed off of us at will. Do we have someone on our side, pulling for our team, throwing us energy or something?
A: Who do you think you have been communicating with?

Q: (L) Are you going to be able to assist us through this turmoil?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are you going to?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) If we call, can we get your assistance?
A: All you have to do is ask.

Q: (L) Will we go through any periods when we may be cut off from help?
A: You are never ever cut off.

Q: (L) Oh, I don’t want to suffer!
A: You need not suffer. Stop thinking 3rd level.

Q: (L) I don’t want anybody I love to suffer either. I don’t want any pain. I’ve suffered enough!
A: You are stuck at 3rd level tonight.

Q: (L) It’s not just that. There is so much disinformation you just don’t know who to believe... I mean, how do we know we can believe you? There are so many sources out there deceiving and they do it so cleverly. Look at the Bible... for 2,000 years people have been believing that...
A: They deceive when you allow it.

Q: (L) I know you are supposed to take some things on faith... but, do you see my problem here?
A: Yes, but you don’t.

Q: (L) What is my problem?
A: Mental block.

Q: (L) In the recent past you indicated that chapter 24 of Matthew and chapter 21 of Luke, were given by Jesus after his extended sleep state. Now, both of those chapters refer to the present time as being like the days of Noah. Is that a correct assessment?
A: In a sense and individual events are as yet undetermined.

Q: (L) Well, the story of Noah tells us that Noah was told to build an ark.
A: Symbolic.

Q: (L) Yet Noah built an ark. Was it true that certain individuals, whoever they were, built boats or did things to survive that terrible cataclysm?
A: No. Look at it this way. Noah built a boat because it seemed like an enjoyable enterprise and when the flood came it came in handy, see?

Q: (L) So, you are saying that if we do what we do because we enjoy it that we will be in the right place at the right time, doing the right thing when whatever happens happens, right?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Are you saying that we will be led to do what we should be doing and be where we should be?
A: You will just fall into it but if you force things you run the risk of going astray.

Q: (L) Am I correct in thinking that many people who think they are channeling are just channeling earthbound spirits?
A: Sometimes.

Q: (L) Is it possible to channel dead people who have gone into the light?
A: Sometimes.

Q: (L) Would it be possible for us to do this with other people present so that they could ask questions also?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is S___ under the influence of other forces?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who?
A: Who else? The Lizzies.

Q: (L) Is it acceptable within universal law to do spirit release work on people without requesting their permission?
A: You already do this without inquiry.

Q: (L) Is it alright to do it without inquiry?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Is it possible that we could be loading ourselves with Karmic debt by sticking our noses in where we may not be wanted?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Would it be better to not do this without request?
A: You must answer within yourself.

Q: (L) Can one do a spirit release on another after asking the higher self permission?
A: Too many conflicting thought patterns.

Q: (L) Can one ask the higher self for permission to do a cleansing?
A: Be cautious not to interfere with karmic learning assignments.

Q: (L) Do some people have attachments that are part of karma?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Let’s go back to the subject of the beast and the number 666. You say that following the enforcement of control by the Lizzies on the entire world that the change is going to take place, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How long following?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Several prophetic works have said that this period is going to last 6.3 or 7 years. Is that correct?
A: Open.

Q: (L) On the subject of the 666, I was given an insight into this several years ago as to another meaning of it, is that interpretation also correct?
A: Maybe. VI is 6 in Roman Numerals. S was 6 in ancient Egypt. A was 6 in Sanskrit. VISA, see, is 666. Interesting that to travel for extended periods one needs a “visa” also, yes?

Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, “I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea with ten horns and seven heads. On his horns he had ten royal crowns and blasphemous titles on his heads...” What does this verse mean?
A: Many meanings. Monetary control. 10 represents universal control of whole units of value.

Q: (L) So, the ten horns represent units of value, so we are talking about money here. What are the blasphemous titles on his heads?
A: In God we trust.

Q: (L) “And the beast that I saw resembled a leopard...”
A: New World Order.

Q: (L) “And to him the dragon gave his might and power and great dominion...” Who is the dragon?
A: Read again please.

Q: (L) “And the beast I saw resembled a leopard...” What does the leopard signify?
A: Leopard is fast moving and distinctly patterned.

Q: (L) “His feet were like those of a bear...” what do the feet represent?
A: Russia.

Q: (L) Why are the feet like those of a bear?
A: Hidden power center in that geographic location.

Q: (L) What nature this power center?
A: Same as USA. Feet are not so easily seen.

Q: (L) Does this mean that Russia and the US are secretly united?
A: Under same control.

Q: (L) Are these the Lizards?
A: At the root.

Q: (L) “His mouth was like that of a lion...” What does mouth represent and why is it like a lions?
A: Noisy and boastful.

Q: (L) Who is noisy and boastful and how is this going to manifest?
A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about a new world order?

Q: (L) The United States?
A: Close. Elements of same.

Q: (L) “One of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound, but his death stroke was healed and the whole earth went after the beast in amazement and admiration...” What does it mean that one of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound?
A: Aliens.

Q: (L) The aliens will seem to be a deadly wound to the Beast?
A: Initially.

Q: (L) “But his death stroke was healed, and the whole earth went after the Beast with amazement and admiration...” What does this mean?
A: Initial fear gives way to worship and admiration.

Q: (L) “They fell down and gave homage to the dragon because he had bestowed on the beast all of his dominion and authority...” Who is this dragon?
A: World Body Politic.

Q: (L) And who is this Beast?
A: New World Order aka Brotherhood aka Lizzies aka antichrist.

Q: (L) “The Beast was given the power of speech uttering boastful and blasphemous words and was given freedom to exert his authority and exercise his will during 42 months...”
A: Timing is open. Power of speech is self explanatory in terms of audio and video media.

Q: (L) “And he opened his mouth to speak slanders against God blaspheming his name and his abode even vilifying those who live in heaven...” Does this mean that this group, this beast are going to...
A: Disseminate disinformation with respect to encouraging worship, loyalty and obedience to antichrist.

Q: (L) “He was further permitted to wage war on God’s holy people and to overcome them and power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people and every tongue and nation...” Does this means trials and tribulations of those who refuse to submit?
A: No. See previous answer.

Q: (L) “And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down in admiration... everyone whose name has not been recorded from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb that was slain in sacrifice from the foundation of the world...” What are “those whose names are recorded in the Book of Life"... what is the Book of Life?
A: Supercomputer.

Q: (L) The Book of Life of the Lamb... everyone whose name has not been recorded... it is saying that the people who are going to worship the Beast are names that have not been recorded... does that mean that there is a supercomputer recording the names of those who do not worship the beast?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And who has this supercomputer?
A: Beast. All names will be recorded as being either obedient or disobedient.

Q: (L) Who is this “Lamb?”
A: Beast.

Q: (L) “If anyone is able to hear let him listen: whoever leads into captivity will himself go into captivity; if anyone slays with the sword, with the sword will he be slain... herein is the call for the patience and fidelity of the saints (God’s people)... “Who are God’s people?
A: All.

Q: (L) What does it mean: “Whoever leads into captivity will go into captivity?”
A: Follow the leader.

Q: (L) If they follow the leader they will become captive and if they fight with the leader they will be killed?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) “Then I saw another Beast rising up out of the land; he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke like a dragon...” What does this signify?
A: Other faces of the same entity.

Q: (L) What does it mean that he had two horns like a lamb? A lamb doesn’t have horns. Why does it say he has horns?
A: Confusion by contradiction.

Q: (L) And what does the lamb represent?
A: Same face of the Beast.

Q: (L) What does it mean he “spoke like a dragon”??
A: Same.

Q: (L) “He exerts all the power and right of control as the former beast in his presence and causes the earth and those who dwell upon it to exalt and deify the beast whose deadly wound was healed and worship him...” Well, it seems to say that there is a second beast that is different from the first beast but you are saying that it is just another face of the beast...
A: Yes. Look at it this way, aliens one face; God another; government another et cetera.

Q: (L) Did you mean to say that God was another face of the beast?
A: As represented by religion.

Q: (L) “He performs great signs, startling miracles, even making fire fall from the sky to the earth in men’s sight..” What does that mean?
A: Aliens perform “miracles”.

Q: (L) And what is the “image” of the Beast?
A: Aliens.

Q: (L) What does it mean to have been wounded by the sword and still live?
A: Perceived as scary then Godlike.

Q: (L) “And he was permitted to impart the breath of life into the Beast’s image so that the statue of the beast could actually talk and to cause all to be put to death that would not bow down and worship the image of the beast.” What does this mean?
A: Total control once deception is complete.

Q: (L) “Compels all alike, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be marked with an inscription on their right hand or on their foreheads....” What is this inscription?
A: Visa ID number.

Q: (L) Is this going to be actually physically put on our bodies?
A: Encoded.

Q: (L) How? Is that what the aliens do when they abduct people?
A: No.

Q: (L) How is it going to be done?
A: Stamped.

Q: (L) By what technical means?
A: Electronic encoding. A series of numbers.

Q: (L) Are they going to put these on our skins or imbed them in the skin on our heads or hand...?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does that mean that you will have to place your hand on an electronic scanner in order to conduct any type of monetary transaction?
A: Precisely.

Q: (L) Okay, it says: “Here is room for discernment, a call for the wisdom of interpretation, let him who has intelligence, penetration, insight enough calculate the number of the Beast, for it is a human number, the number of a certain man, his number is 666." What does this mean?
A: Visa as explained previously. Everyone will get their own number and it will be a Visa number, the number of the Beast.

Q: (L) “Then I looked and Lo! the lamb stood on Mount Zion and with him 144,000 men who had his name and his father’s name inscribed on their foreheads...” What does that mean?
A: ID. The Lamb is the Leadership council of the world bank. Many will think they are taking the “mark” of God when actually being marked by the Beast.

Q: (L) “And I heard a voice from Heaven like the sound of great waters and like the rumbling of might thunder and the voice I heard seemed like the music of harpists accompanying themselves on their harps...” What is this voice from heaven and the sound like great waters and mighty thunder?
A: The return of Christ.

Q: (L) “And they sing a new song... No one could learn to sing that song except the 144,000 who had been ransomed from the earth... you said the 144,000 are the leaders of the world bank and here it says they have been ransomed from the earth at the coming of Christ... it says the 144,000 have not defiled themselves by relations with women for they are pure as virgins. These are they who follow the Lamb wherever he goes...they have been ransomed...”
A: Symbolism added later and this is not entirely accurate point. The symbols have been mixed. Tends to encourage elitism and divisiveness.

Q: (L) Are the 144,000 good guys or bad guys as we would term them?
A: Both. But they are ones who have supreme knowledge.

Q: (L) Are these human beings?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) There will be 144,000 people on the earth who have supreme knowledge?
A: Approximately.

Q: (L) Now, this 144,000, are we among that number? Just curious.
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) “No lie was found to be upon their lips for they are blameless, spotless, untainted without blemish. And I saw another angel flying in midair with an eternal gospel to tell to the inhabitants of the earth, every race and tribe and people, and he cried with a mighty voice: Revere God and give him glory, for the hour of his judgment has arrived, fall down before him, pay him homage and adoration and worship him who created heaven and earth and the sea and the springs of water...” What does this tell us?
A: Added later by questionable source.

Q: (L) “Then a second angel followed declaring: Fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great, she who made all nations drink of the wine of her passionate unchastity...” Who is Babylon and what does it mean she has fallen?
A: Same as previous answer.

Q: (L) “Another angel followed, a third, saying with a mighty voice saying whoever pays homage to the beast and permits his stamp to be put on his forehead or on his hand he too shall have to drink of the wine of God’s indignation and wrath poured undiluted into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the lamb...”
A: Disinformation. Intended to create fear and resistance so that the aliens can feed off of these emotions.

Q: (L) “Again I looked and lo! I saw a white cloud and sitting on the cloud one resembling a son of man with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp scythe in his hand...” Is that further additions?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) “Another angel came out of the temple saying with a mighty voice to the one sitting on the cloud: put in your scythe and reap for the hour has arrived to gather the harvest for the earth’s crop is fully ripened...”
A: More fear based disinformation.

Q: (L) Now, I have compared certain passages of Revelations to the work of Immanuel Velikovsky, were those sections accurate in what they describe?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And those are events that will transpire after the Lizzies have done their thing, after the Visa is in place, and before or after Christ returns?
A: Before.

Q: (L) So the cluster of comets is going to come before the return of Christ??
A: Yes. But return is just one event not the whole thing.

Q: (L) Is there going to be massive disruption on the planet and maybe a lot of people transitioning out of the body simultaneously because of the interaction of this cluster of comets and the earth.
A: Close.

Q: (L) And, shortly following this event, Christ will return?
A: As part of the whole.

Q: (L) That is going to be part of the cluster of comets activity?
A: After.

Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?
A: Teach.

Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to receive this teaching?
A: Open.

Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?
A: Assume as you please.

Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of the whole as though there is some important thing that I am missing the question to discover. Consider that question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.
A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.

Q: (L) And that is...?
A: The transition to 4th density.

Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen before the comets or after?
A: After.

Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth going to....
A: Precede the transition.

Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?
A: No.

Q: (L) It’s not going to have anything to do with electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the atomic vibrations of the planet?
A: No.

Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?
A: Before.

Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ comes?
A: More or less.

Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back and everything is sort of straightening out and he is teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.

Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media, television and radio and so forth?
A: Some.

Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to this transition, going to leave in large groups with the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving into domed cities on the planet living in “cahoots” with the Lizzies?
A: Close.

Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on the planet and areas under the control of Christ?
A: Christ does not control.

Q: (L) Will the Lizzie people come out of their cities from time to time and “molest” the followers of Christ from time to time?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) So, in other words, we will have a greatly reduced population, people here and people there, none of whom are totally united on the planet?
A: Goodnight.

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October 18, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Can you give us your name and opening statement?
A: Dedeba. Hello.

Q: (L) Are you a discarnate?
A: Cassiopaean.

Q: (L) Why do you not seem to have as much energy as the others?
A: Slow at first. Builds.

Q: (L) Has someone of you been looking over my shoulder during the day and reading the questions I have been preparing?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are you prepared to answer my questions fully and completely tonight?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are you a male or female?
A: Both.

Q: (L) Are all Cassiopaeans both male and female?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do you reproduce in anyway?
A: We are Light.

Q: (L) Have the Cassiopaeans ever been in physical bodies?
A: Ever is subjective.

Q: (L) Okay, at any point in space time have you occupied physical bodies?
A: Have, will and do.

Q: (L) Are you talking about the simultaneous past present and future?
A: Omnipresent.

Q: (L) Are you part of the collective subconscious, unconscious, or consciousness?
A: Too vague.

Q: (L) Are you part of our higher consciousness?
A: So is everything else.

Q: (L) Are you prepared for my questions and to give practical answers because you know I am a practical person.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Would anyone else be able to answer the sorts of questions we ask?
A: Anyone covers wide spectrum.

Q: (L) You understand our frustration with a lot of channeled sources?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Our frustration lies in the fact that when a question is answered it is rarely, if ever, answered succinctly, directly, or anywhere near the point.
A: So your perspective, yes, to not do...

Q: (L) Is there any such thing as racial superiority regarding the races on the planet earth?
A: Only karmically determined by physical confinement assignment.

Q: (L) It can be karmically determined to be born into one race or another?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the Aryan/Celts who came to this planet from the other one that was destroyed, were they, when they came, in any way superior to the humans already here?
A: Somewhat.

Q: (L) What was the nature of this superiority?
A: Durability.

Q: (L) Physical or mental?
A: Physical.

Q: (L) Well, blond haired, blue-eyed people seem to be somewhat more delicate or thin-skinned compared to, say, the blacks.
A: In this environment on surface.

Q: (L) Which race on earth is the oldest?
A: All are same.

Q: (L) Even the Aryan/Celts from the other planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was there ever a time in history when Kantek, Martek, and Earth were all three occupied by sentient races which communicated with one another?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was there ever a time in history when all three planets were occupied simultaneously?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why are there different races?
A: Many reasons. Experimental creations. Partly.

Q: (L) Where did the Orientals come from?
A: Same as all others. Result of experimentation.

Q: (L) Did they originate on this planet? Are they native to this planet?
A: Both. Orientals reserved for souls most advanced; Aryans most aggressive; Negroes most naturally attuned to earth vibrational frequency. So are “native Americans”.

Q: (L) Can you determine my dominant genetic type?
A: Caucasian.

Q: (L) Is Caucasian different from Aryan or Celtic?
A: Aryan subgroup Caucasian.

Q: (L) In terms of being Caucasian, do I have any negro blood in me?
A: Faint trace.

Q: (L) Who were the blue skinned people written about in the Vedas?
A: Aryans.

Q: (L) Were the Aryans originally blue skinned?
A: No.

Q: (L) Why did the Vedas talk about blue-skinned people and why are there blue skinned people in remote areas of the Appalachians?
A: Are whites real “white”?

Q: (L) Were there ever any really blue people?
A: No. They were perceived as blue due to thinness of skin and contrast with native population.

Q: (L) What is the origin of the swastika.
A: Oriental. Signified supremity.

Q: (L) Were Adam and Eve attempting to obtain knowledge to free themselves from bondage when they ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge?
A: Adam and Eve are symbolic.

Q: (L) But were they in bondage and trying to help free themselves with the help of a benevolent “serpent”?
A: Not benevolent.

Q: (L) Were they already in bondage to someone else when the Lizzies came?
A: No. They were free. The symbolic story of Adam and Eve was a story of enticement to false knowledge. The tree of knowledge of good and evil was focused, imprisoned knowledge.

Q: (L) Is the solar system sort of a giant atom?
A: No. But similar; remember your atomic knowledge is still mostly theoretical.

Q: (L) Could the orbits of the planets be described as energy ‘shells’ such as the shells occupied by the various electrons around an atom?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Does the solar system, at different points in time absorb or emit energy and do planets move from one shell to another? And, does the nature of the solar system change what it “is” by adding or taking away bodies?
A: First, if a solar system adds or subtracts bodies then of course it changes. Next, the fundamental changes occur as a result of interaction with outside forces.

Q: (L) What outside forces?
A: Plane convergence.

Q: (L) What is plane convergence?
A: What will happen to earth.

Q: (L) Is this going to happen soon?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this plane convergence a phenomenon that occurs frequently in the universe, galaxy or solar system?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is it caused by or manifested by?
A: Passing through realm border.

Q: (L) What is a realm border?
A: Too complex.

Q: (L) What is the source of the legend of the phoenix?
A: Ancient Indian destruction and rebuilding.

Q: (L) Who created the Lizzies?
A: Ormethion.

Q: (L) And who is this individual?
A: Thought center.

Q: (L) Located where?
A: Everywhere.

Q: (L) Can you give us a little more of a clue?
A: Another sector of reality.

Q: (L) Is this a sentient, self-aware being that created the Lizzies?
A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) Is this individual one of what you called the Transient Passengers?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is it similar?
A: No.

Q: (L) And who created this Ormethion?
A: Not being; thought center.

Q: (L) Thought center of what?
A: Too complex.

Q: (L) Who was it who appeared to Ezekiel?
A: Lizard beings.

Q: (L) What do you intend for us to do with all this information?
A: Put in book.

Q: (L) Any suggestion for title?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) Should we let it out gradually? Some of the information is pretty heavy.
A: All at once.

Q: (L) Is there only one ultimate creator of the universe
A: All is one. And one is all.

Q: (L) From the one what was the first division?
A: Mass division and disbursement.

Q: (L) Was this simultaneous?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this what we refer to as the “Big Bang?”
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any reference to this event in terms of time?
A: Always.

Q: (L) Can we say that all that exists in the material universe is, say, “x” number of years old?
A: No. It is the eternal now. Not only did happen, is happening and going to happen. The expanded presence.

Q: (L) What is the true source of the brotherhood of the snake in terms of human members?
A: Adam and Eve.

Q: (L) Were Adam and Eve real people?
A: No.

Q: (L) A group of people?
A: Thought pattern change not a giving into temptation.

Q: (L) What or who were these people? What country did they live in?
A: All people. Realm border crossing.

Q: (L) You mean this occurred at a time when realms crashed or crossed each other?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did this involve a war of some sort between one group of beings and another group?
A: Realm crossing has many manifestations.

Q: (L) So, in other words, if it hadn’t been the Lizzies it would have been someone else?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this just sort of destined to happen?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it just part of a great cosmic drama?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the ultimate creator self-conscious and self-aware?
A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) These events that occur in our universe just sort of happen?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Are there other universes besides ours?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are these other universes also spun off from “our” ultimate creator?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are these universes countable?
A: Counting is artificially limiting concept.

Q: (L) Are the numbers of universes limitless?
A: In a sense.

Q: (L) Do universes ever crash into each other?
A: Too complex.

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October 19, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Do we have anybody with us tonight?
A: We are always with you.

Q: (L) Who are we talking with tonight?
A: Nonigera.

Q: (L) Is it true that when we ask an individual under hypnosis about an alien abduction scenario to try to tune in to aliens... can we do that?
A: Yes. The individual is aware on every level and the information you seek was known at the time. The questions you ask are merely an accessing of information that is already in awareness at some level. Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs are too regimented.

Q: (L) Why does M___ F___ think that people are trying to come between him and S____?
A: Paranoia.

Q: (L) Is M___ engaged in physical relationship with S___?
A: Trying.

Q: (L) Why did S___ just suddenly turn cold to everything and everybody?
A: Embarrassment.

Q: (L) About what?
A: Cream.

Q: (L) Because she backed out on the cream deal?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, embarrassed in what way?
A: Realized how stupid she looked and two faced also. Usually when someone stops contact with you it is because of embarrassment.

Q: (L) Why did she stop contacting V__?
A: V____ is connected to you.

Q: (L) Is S____ still having serious problems at this time?
A: S____ is having problems she perceives as serious.

Q: (L) But they are not, is that correct?
A: Subjective.

Q: (L) How does J___ W___ really feel about me and Freddie?
A: Questions your intent.

Q: (L) In what respect? Does he think I am up to something?
A: Thinks you are volatile.

Q: (L) Am I?
A: Subjective.

Q: (L) How does he feel about Freddie?
A: Resents him.

Q: (L) Why.
A: Intelligence.

Q: (L) What are J___’s intentions toward me.
A: Make you a follower.

Q: (L) Is he jealous.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it because Freddie has a strong mind?
A: Yes. He only wants followers.

Q: (L) I am asking you to help me out here.
A: Can’t help with karmic level 1 processes.

Q: (L) What is a karmic level 1 process?
A: Major predestined lesson or mission.

Q: (L) Are Freddie and I going through all of these things right now to create some change in our state of being or our living...
A: To open memories, psychic record.

Q: (L) Have we been through these experiences in other lifetimes?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) When we do this channeling does it magnetize our bodies to bring benefits into our lives?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this work a destined mission?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) If one is in process of fulfilling one’s destiny in terms of performing a mission, is not the universe capable of meeting one’s needs?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this, in fact, going to happen for both of us as we focus on this work?
A: If you keep pushing forth.

Q: (L) So all the things we are doing now...
A: And coordinate each others input equally.

Q: (L) Did S___ make any money selling her jewelry?
A: No.

Q: (L) What does S___ think about Freddie?
A: Resents his superior intelligence.

Q: (L) Me?
A: Resents same. Thinks you’re weird.

Q: (L) What does A___ B___ really think about me?
A: Resents your power.

Q: (L) C___ H___?
A: Fears your power. She is misguided.

Q: Okay, thank you for the help.
A: Good Night.

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October 20, 1994

Freddie, Laura, V___

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: Who do we have with us tonight?
A: Elminoia

Q: And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: Last year both V___ and I went to visit a psychic surgeon named C___. Is this individual legitimate?
A: Not in the way presented.

Q: Does she actually insert her hand into your body and do what she claims to do?
A: No.

Q: Is it all faked?
A: Delusional.

Q: Where does the bloody water come from?
A: Trickery.

Q: Does Reverend R___ know that she is a fraud?
A: No. She believes her.

Q: Is there any psychic activity that occurs when this woman works on one?
A: Yes.

Q: What is the nature of it?
A: Transference of energy.

Q: What is the source or root of this energy?
A: Intense concentration of psychic thought power.

Q: She is not influenced by any negatives such as the Lizzies or anything like that?
A: Some, for confusion purposes.

Q: So C___ works with the Lizzie energy?
A: Somewhat.

Q: What is the force or background of R___, G___, J___, et al.
A: Bogus but some sincere healing does occur as a result of faith.

Q: In the incident that occurred in the spring at A__ B___’s house when “Rev. B” came up and sort of zapped me, who or what was behind that activity and what did he do?
A: Dark energies of terrestrial nature were temporarily concentrated upon you.

Q: What was the intent.
A: Harm out of jealousy.

Q: Did they intend to kill me?
A: Hurt.

Q: Who put this Reverend B up to this activity?
A: R___.

Q: Anybody else involved with her in that decision?
A: S____.

Q: Why?
A: Fear reaction to overtaking of influence she wanted.

Q: Is A__ B____ once again involved with the characters at that metaphysical church?
A: Yes.

Q: What are they up to?
A: Strange thinking patterns.

Q: Why did B___ call V___ the other day?
A: Try to steer her away from you and Fred.

Q: Why does B___ think she has to steer V___ away from me and Fred?
A: You are powerful influence and so is Fred.

Q: What do these people think we are that makes them behave so cruelly and fearfully toward us?
A: Don’t agree with your knowledge.

Q: Well, what’s the story here? Am I completely in left field? Is Laura right and them wrong?
A: Close. You are far closer to the supreme truth than they.

Q: Is J___ a good psychic?
A: Like Aunt Clara on Bewitched.

Q: How do aliens control people?
A: Which ones?

Q: How many choices do I have?
A: Open.

Q: Well, how do the grays and Lizzies do it?
A: Mind and body interference with electrical response patterns.

Q: Can they do this remotely?
A: Less effectively.

Q: So they need to work directly on you or be in contact with you by some means that is somewhat material?
A: Yes.

Q: Are there other aliens on the planet abducting people?
A: Much less often.

Q: What was the flying boomerang the kids and I saw last year?
A: Lizard projection multiple reality station.

Q: Did they fly over my house deliberately for me to see them?
A: Yes.

Q: What was the purpose of them showing themselves to me?
A: Make you aware of existence.

Q: Why did they want to make me aware of their existence?
A: That is an extremely complicated situation.

Q: Did that little flap that occurred in Pasco county in spring of 1993 happen as a result of Fred’s and my activities?
A: Yes.

Q: Was there a craft over my house the night I hypnotized P__ Z___?
A: Tuned into visual stimuli from implants. And Z___ implants alerted scout craft of Grays and Lizzies.

Q: Is P__ Z___ under the control of the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: How many people are not under the control of the Lizzies nowadays?!
A: Open.

Q: We would like to know what is the origin of the Gypsies.
A: Genes spliced. Slaves of dark forces.

Q: Who are these dark forces?
A: Same.

Q: As what?
A: Brotherhood.

Q: Does this brotherhood consist of Lizzies and various humans?
A: Yes.

Q: If the Gypsies were gene spliced, who were they gene spliced with?
A: Alien race, humanoid, and Atlantean drone workers.

Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?
A: Slave people controlled by crystal.

Q: Why do the Gypsies remain so cohesive? Is that genetically programmed?
A: Yes. And mind control.

Q: There are legends of half human creatures, minotaurs, centaurs, etc. Were any of these creatures real?
A: Experiments known as beasts in Atlantis. V___ is part Gypsy. Hiding this.

Q: Does she know it?
A: Some.

Q: Who built the city of Baalbek?
A: Antereans and early Sumerians. We meant Atlanteans. [Who are the Antereans]

Q: What is the reason for the enormous proportions of this building?
A: Giants.

Q: Who were the giants?
A: Genetic effort to recreate Nephilim.

Q: Did the Atlanteans and Sumerians succeed in recreating the Nephilim?
A: No.

Q: Why did they build this enormous city?
A: Retarded subjects.

Q: The results of their efforts were retarded?
A: Yes.

Q: Why did they build the enormous city?
A: In anticipation of success.

Q: Why would someone come along and build a city of the proportions of Baalbek in anticipation of a genetic project that could take many years to accomplish.
A: Project took only three years. Speeded up growth cycle using nuclear hormonal replication procedure. Why failed.

Q: That’s why it failed, because of the speeded up growth?
A: Did not take properly.

Q: What technical means did they use to cut the stones and transport them?
A: Sound wave focusing.

Q: What happened to interrupt or halt the building of this city?
A: Venus first appearance and pass.

Q: What year was this project brought to a halt?
A: 3218 B.C.

Q: Who built the city of Mohenjo-Daro?
A: Lizards directly. Coatzlmundi legend ties in to this directly look at illustrations on stones now.

Q: Who is Coatzlmundi?
A: Other deity of the Lizards worshipped by the Atlanteans and their descendants because of the direct contact with humans for 1000 years.

Q: Now, you said Mohenjo Daro was built by the Lizzies directly. Did they occupy this city themselves?
A: No.

Q: When was this city last inhabited continually?
A: 3065 years ago.

Q: When was it built?
A: 6092 years ago.

Q: I would like to go back to the subject of the Nephilim. Now you said the Nephilim were a group of humanoid types brought here to earth to be enforcers, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: When were they brought here?
A: 9046 B.C. one reference.

Q: They were giants, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: They were presented to the people as the representatives, or “Sons” of God, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: You say these dudes were 11 to 14 feet tall...
A: Yes.

Q: You and the ancient literature say that these sons of god intermarried with human women, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: Did they do that the same way it is done today, that is, sexual interaction?
A: No.

Q: How was it done?
A: Forced insemination.

Q: So, it was artificial insemination?
A: Close.

Q: Were these beings like us, including their sexual apparatus?
A: Close.

Q: Any significant differences?
A: Three gonads.

Q: Was their sexual apparatus otherwise similar?
A: Yes.

Q: Did they mate with human females in a normal way at any time?
A: No.

Q: Why not?
A: Size difference.

Q: Just for the sake of curiosity, just how different in terms of size?
A: 23 inches long.

Q: Were they circumcised?
A: No.

Q: Just what was the origin of the practice of circumcision?
A: Same as all Judaic traditions hygiene.

Q: Where do the Tibetans come from?
A: Asia.

Q: Were they special in any way? Hybrids or anything?
A: No. All are hybrids. At some juncture.

Q: What is the origin of the Nubians?
A: Caucus range.

Q: How come they are so terribly black?
A: Genetic mixing.

Q: With what? Anything particularly special about them?
A: East Indian aborigines.

Q: Who was the Queen of Sheba?
A: Fictional.

Q: Did a great queen come to visit King Solomon?
A: Alien influence.

Q: Who was Arjuna?
A: Same as Sheba.

Q: Who is Shiva?
A: Same.

Q: Rama?
A: Indian. High priest influenced by Confederation.

Q: Is Ormethion who the Lizzies worship?
A: Close.

Q: Who do they worship? What do they call their god?
A: Physical universe.

Q: The physical universe is their god?
A: Yes.

Q: What happened to K___ W___? [Little girl missing in another state.]
A: Killed.

Q: By whom?
A: Demented human named Carl.

Q: What happened to D___ W___ and C___ S___? [Two local men who had disappeared without a trace several years previously.]
A: Abducted by aliens for experimentation.

Q: Were they killed through these experiments?
A: Yes.

Q: How were the walls of Jericho brought down?
A: Earthquake.

Q: What happened to the army of Sennacherib?
A: Destroyed by cosmic rays energy concentration by Lizards.

Q: Is there such a thing as sound that can kill?
A: Yes. Anything properly concentrated can kill.

Q: Are there words that can kill by their simple pronunciation?
A: No.

Q: Are there words of power that invoke energies by their pronunciation?
A: Maybe.

Q: Could you tell us any of them?
A: No. You might use unwisely.

Q: Sitchin says that the pyramid was built as a permanent marking system to navigate the planets of our solar system. Could you give comments on this please?
A: It was not built for that.

Q: Who was Jehovah?
A: Lizard projection.

Q: What is the Melchizedek priesthood?
A: False rite.

Q: Is there an order of priests to which the original Melchizedek belonged that was true?
A: Yes.

Q: I had an experience under hypnosis several years ago while in the mountains of North Carolina. What was that?
A: Soul memory awakening.

Q: What was the significance of the necklace?
A: Symbolic of ability to communicate supreme knowledge.

Q: Another experience on the boat one night, I am remembering now. What was that event?
A: Similar.

Q: What was the source of these two events?
A: Us.

Q: Alright, another event during meditation followed by period of intense crying. What was this event?
A: Soul cleansing.

Q: The source?
A: Us ridding you of dark influences.

Q: When did the Aryans invade India?
A: 8243 years ago.

Q: Who was there before that?
A: Asian tribes and number 3 prototype.

Q: What is a number 3 prototype?
A: Known as Neanderthal man.

Q: And what are we?
A: Number 4 types c and d. Translation into English comprehension.

Q: Were the Aryan/Celts the original giants?
A: No.

Q: What white men were seen in South America and talked to the tribes there and promised to return one day and were worshipped as Gods.
A: Egyptians and Atlantean descendants.

Q: What did the Atlanteans do to bring this karma on us such that the grays and Lizzies...
A: Worshipped and served self to extreme.

Q: Does the act of channeling actually change our genetics or DNA or some element around our being in some way that we are not even conscious of?
A: Steadily yes.

Q: Will this channeling have effects on us that will cause changes our lives and lifestyle?
A: Yes.

Q: Will there be benefits brought into our lives because of dedication to this work?
A: Yes.

Q: If we dedicate ourselves does this mean that we will be protected or cared for in any way?
A: Close.

Q: We got some information from the first session when we were working with S____ which said some awful things about bits of children's organs were removed etc, what was the source of that information? Did that come from you guys?
A: Yes. Sorry for shock but necessary for broadening channel.

Q: You say that there is an effort on the part of the Orions or Lizards... Are the Orions and Lizards synonymous?
A: Close.

Q: Okay. You say that there is an effort on the part of these beings to create a new race. Why do they want or need a new race?
A: Theirs no longer satisfies them.

Q: When we asked you in the session on July 30th where you were from you said Corsoca, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: Is that a planet?
A: No.

Q: What is Corsoca?
A: Point of energy confluence between realms that reflects locator when we were 3rd level.

Q: When we do this channeling, Fred and I together, is it different than if Fred were to do it alone?
A: Yes.

Q: Okay, when we are doing it together with the board, where are you in space time relative to us as we sit here?
A: Above at 6000 miles at border between 3 realms.

Q: Once again, you said that if we called on you for help, you would come if we ask. Is there any special way to call and how can we know if you answer?
A: Will feel it.

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October, 22 1994

Direct channeling with Fred.

Q: (L) Who is with us?
A: Enduanda and Alorra

Q: (L) What is the significance of the earthquake that occurred a few months ago that was called the superdeep earthquake that was 400 miles deep?
A: A magma shift caused by gradual heating from within. Just part of a periodic cycle.

Q: (L) Any other comments on that?
A: No.

Q: (L) We would like to have comments on the thumping noises reportedly heard off the coast of California?
A: Expansion of a base.

Q: (L) What kind of base?
A: It’s a transfer center for those beings known as the Grays.

Q: (L) And what was the thumping?
A: They are expanding it.

Q: (L) Is it construction work?
A: Yes except that they are using sound waves to disintegrate rock in the crust under the ocean. This disintegration causes the atomic structure of the particles being disintegrated to completely disappear which has something to do with why those sounds are heard in that particular rhythm.

Q: (L) Any other comments?
A: There is some awareness on the part of the U.S. government as to what is going on there. They are suspicious.

Q: (L) What was the source of knowledge accessed by Edgar Cayce?
A: Well, he had a unique biochemical composition which allowed for easy opening and closing of his consciousness from outside sources without interference with his electromagnetic flow stream. It is a very unique and unusual situation. The first manifestation of this was when he asked for help. If he had not asked for help from a higher source, possibly his awareness of his abilities would never have come forth.

Q: (L) What is the source of Lama Singh’s knowledge?
A: Lama Singh has studied long and hard in metaphysical fields through meditation and other areas and therefore a doorway or channel can be opened voluntarily. This requires the cooperation of the host and is not as easily opened or closed as it was in the case of Cayce.

Q: (L) In terms of access levels, which one of the two had access to the greatest field of subjects or information?
A: Actually Cayce was accessing a somewhat different source, but the overall accuracy level and the overall intensity level were greater with Cayce.

Q: (L) In terms of relationships relative to the Cassiopaean level of knowledge, how would Cayce and Lama Singh relate?
A: The access level is much greater and broader.

Q: (L) When and how did planet earth acquire its moon?
A: Was caused by the regular passage of a large comet cluster which caused a gravitational disruption allowing a large chunk of the original earth’s surface, which was somewhat less solid at that point in space/time, to break away from the main body and assume a locked in orbit around the main body.

Q: (L) When did this happen?
A: This occurred approximately 3 billion years ago.

Q: (L) Can a spiritual being become entrapped in physical matter?
A: It’s possible but very unlikely.

Q: (L) Are human beings entrapped in physical matter?
A: By choice.

Q: (L) Why did they make this choice?
A: To experience physical sensations. It was a group mind decision.

Q: (L) Who was in charge of the group?
A: The group.

Q: (L) Does the interaction between the spirit/soul and the body physical produce some by-product that is desirable to other beings?
A: Well, all things have desirable consequences as well as undesirable consequences, but it must also be mentioned here that everything that exists in all realms of the universe can experience existence in one of only two ways. That would be defined as a long wave cycle and a short wave cycle. Going back to your previous question about why humans are “entrapped” in physical existence, which, of course, is voluntary and chosen, this was due to the desire to change from the long wave cycle experience of completely what you would call ethereal or spiritual existence, to the short wave cycle of what you call physical existence. The difference is that a long wave cycle involves only very gradual change in evolution in a cyclical manner. Whereas a short wave cycle involves a duality. And this is the case with souls in physical bodies as is experienced on this earth plane because the soul experiences an ethereal state for half the cycle and a physical state for the other half of the cycle. While these halves are not measured in time the way you measure time, the totality of experience is equal in each half. The necessity to form the short wave cycle was brought about through nature through the natural bounds of the universe when the group mind of souls chose to experience physicality as opposed to a completely ethereal existence.

Q: (L) Does this interaction produce a by-product?
A: It produces equal by-products of a positive and negative nature.

Q: (L) And what are these by-products?
A: Which one first?

Q: (L) Positive.
A: Positive by-product is an increase in relative energy which speeds up the learning process of the soul and all of it’s one dimensional and two dimensional interactive partners. In other words, flora and fauna, minerals, etc. All experience growth and movement towards reunion at a faster rate on the cycle through this short wave cycle physical/ethereal transfer. Of a negative nature, it also produces many negative experiences for these very same entities which otherwise would not exist because being of a first level and second level nature, flora and fauna would ordinarily experience a long term or long wave cycle on the physical plane as opposed to a short wave cycle physical and ethereal, as they do now because of their interaction with the human species in its short wave ethereal/physical cycle.

Q: (L) The comment was made at one point that certain alien beings abduct humans and subject them to cruel and torturous deaths in order to create “maximum energy transfer.” In this respect, what is this maximum energy transfer that occurs during a long, slow, torturous dying process?
A: Extreme fear and anxiety builds up fear/anxiety energy which is of a negative nature which fuels the beings that you speak of in that they draw from that and produce a sort of a fueling energy which keeps them going as one of their forms of nourishment based on their metabolic structure.

Q: (L) What is their metabolic structure?
A: That is very complex and very difficult to describe because it is on the fourth level of density which you do not understand. But, part of their reason for existence on the fourth level is their ability to nourish themselves both through ethereal methods and through physical methods. Therefore, this energy transfer would represent the ethereal method of nourishment and other means are achieved physically.

Q: (L) What other means?
A: Well, the drinking of blood and blood by-products would be an example of that.

Q: (L) Do they do that?
A: Yes, but the manner of intake is different than what you may be thinking. It is done through pores.

Q: (L) In what manner?
A: Bathing and then absorbing the necessary products and then disposing of the remaining product.

Q: (L) Did Arthur Clarke channel “Childhood’s End”?
A: No. Used imagination.

Q: (L) Is the amnesia related to UFO abductions deliberately induced or is it a product of the mind’s inability to deal with the event?
A: It is an equal commingling of both.

Q: (L) The part that is deliberately induced, how is that accomplished?
A: By using a cosmic energy flow to influence memory function through a combination of spiritual and chemical interaction.

Q: (L) Can you be more specific?
A: Being more specific would be in another way less specific, but a good way to put it is altering the flow of electromagnetic energy in the brain. Electromagnetic energy, electromagnetism, is the life force that exists within all that evolves through long wave or short wave cycles.

Q: (L) Going back to the beings that absorb nutrients through their pores, what kind of beings are they?
A: Both those that you describe as the Lizard Beings and those you describe as the Grays. This is necessary for their survival in each case. Even though the Grays are not natural parts of the short wave cycle, but rather an artificial creation by the Lizard Beings, but nevertheless they mimic the nourishment functions.

Q: (L) Since they are artificially created by the Lizard beings, does this mean they have no souls?
A: That’s correct.

Q: (L) How do they function? Are they like robots?
A: They function by interaction with the souls of the Lizard beings. This technology is extremely far in advance of that with which you are familiar, but the Gray beings are not only built and designed artificially, but also function as a projection mentally and psychically of the Lizard beings. They are like four dimensional probes.

Q: (L) As four dimensional probes, what are their capabilities?
A: They have all the same capabilities of the Lizard beings except for the fact that their physical appearance is entirely different and they do not have souls of their own and also their biological structure is internally different. But, their functioning is the same and in order to remain as projection beings they also must absorb nutrients in the same fashion both spiritually and physically as the Lizard beings do. The reason the negative energy is necessary fuel is that the Lizard beings and the Grays are both living in the fourth level of density, which is the highest level of density one can exist in serving only self as these entities do.


So, therefore, they must absorb negative energy because the fourth level of density is the highest example of self service which is a negative thought pattern. The fourth level of density is a progression from the third level of density. With each progression upward in density level, the existence for the individual conscious entity becomes less difficult. So, therefore, the fourth level of density is less difficult to exist in that the third, the third is less difficult than the second and so on. It puts less strain on the soul energy. Therefore, beings existing on the fourth level of density can draw from beings existing on the third level of density in terms of absorption of negative soul energy. Likewise, beings on the third level of density can draw from beings on the second level of density, though this type of drawing is not as necessary but is done.


This is why human beings existing on the third level frequently cause pain and suffering to those of the animal kingdom who exist on the second level of density because you are drawing negative soul energy as beings who primarily serve self, as you do, from those on the second level, and on the first, and so on. Now, as you advance to the fourth level of density which is coming up for you, you must now make a choice as to whether to progress to service to others or to remain at the level of service to self. This will be the decision which will take quite some time for you to adjust to.


This is what is referred to as the “thousand year period.” This is the period as measured in your calendar terms that will determine whether or not you will advance to service to others or remain at the level of service to self. And those who are described as the Lizards have chosen to firmly lock themselves into service to self. And, since they are at the highest level of density where this is possible, they must continually draw large amounts of negative energy from those at the third level, second level, and so on, which is why they do what they do.


This also explains why their race is dying, because they have not been able to learn for themselves how to remove themselves from this particular form of expression to that of service to others. And, since they have such, as you would measure it, a long period of time, remained at this level and, in fact, become firmly entrenched in it, and, in fact, have increased themselves in it, this is why they are dying and desperately trying to take as much energy from you as possible and also to recreate their race metabolically.

Q: (L) Well, if we are sources of food and labor for them, why don’t they just breed us in pens on their own planet?
A: They do.

Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, why don’t they just move in and take over?
A: That is their intention. That has been their intention for quite some time. They have been traveling back and forth through time as you know it, to set things up so that they can absorb a maximum amount of negative energy with the transference from third level to fourth level that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that they can overtake you on the fourth level and thereby accomplish several things.

1: retaining their race as a viable species

2: increasing their numbers

3: increasing their power

4: expanding their race throughout the realm of fourth density

To do all of this they have been interfering with events for what you would measure on your calendar as approximately 74 thousand years. And they have been doing so in a completely still state of space time traveling backward and forward at will during this work. Interestingly enough, though, all of this will fail.

Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?
A: Because we see it. We are able to see all, not just what we want to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want to see. In other words, it’s the highest manifestation possible of that which you would refer to as wishful thinking. And, wishful thinking represented on the fourth level of density becomes reality for that level. You know how you wishfully think? Well, it isn’t quite reality for you because you are on the third level, but if you are on the fourth level and you were to perform the same function, it would indeed be your awareness of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see since we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want it to be.

Q: (L) Zecharia Sitchin proposes that the pyramid was built as a permanent marking system to navigate the solar system, could you comment on that idea?
A: That is incorrect. The pyramids were built as energy storage and transference facilities. They were built by the descendants of those known to you as the Atlanteans who are, of course, your ancestors in soul matters. They were not built to be markers for anything.

Q: (L) Did any aliens at all, and specifically the Lizzies, ever live among mankind and receive worship?
A: They did not live among mankind, but they did interact directly with human beings, at various points in the past. It was at those points when human beings were ready, willing and able to accept deities appearing directly from outside sources and then worship them. Such things would not have occurred in the recent past. But, beware, it may very well occur very soon.

Q: (L) Who made the Nazca lines in South America and what was their purpose?
A: Those were natives living in the area at the particular time who were highly advanced spiritually and they put those lines there to call to others that were coming from what they perceived to be an outer space location.

Q: (L) Were they symbols of power in any way?
A: Well, some may have perceived them as such but they were mainly an effort to call forth those who had been worshipped and had appeared to them previously from the outside including not only the Lizard Beings, but other travelers.

Q: (L) Who built the city of Angkor Wat?
A: That was built by the Lizard Beings themselves. Built approximately 3108 years ago.

Q: (L) Who built the city of Mohenjo Daro?
A: That also was built by the Lizard Beings directly.

Q: (L) Did they live in these cities?
A: No, as stated before, they did not live there, they visited or occupied on a temporary basis, but did not live there.

Q: (L) Who did they build the cities for?
A: They built the cities for themselves and their worshippers amongst humans.

Q: (L) In an earlier reading, the question was asked as to what planet you are from, and the response was Corsoca. The question was then asked: “Can you be more specific?” and the answer was 2 dilor. Is this an incorrect spelling or what does this mean?
A: That which you refer to as Corsoca is actually not what you would refer to as a planet in your understanding, because you must understand it is at the sixth level of density which is completely out of reach of any of your senses except for the sixth one, therefore you do not have any concept of the level of being at that density. So, the term “planet” simply cannot apply here. But, that is, indeed, our residence. But it is best left at that because to try to explain to you what exactly it is like there would not be possible for you to imagine.

Q: (L) Alright. You mentioned in this earlier reading something about a “Denver Airport Scandal”. Recently it has come to my attention that this is a possible development. Is this scandal going to develop into a far worse situation and, if so, what are the ramifications?
A: Yes, that will be an ongoing problem, to say the least.

Q: (L) Are there any rituals that can be performed to provide protection for one against intrusion by the Lizzies.
A: Rituals are self-defeating.

Q: (L) Are there any technological means we can use?
A: The only defense needed is knowledge. Knowledge defends you against every possible form of harm in existence. The more knowledge you have, the less fear you have, the less pain you have, the less stress you feel, the less anguish you feel, and the less danger you experience of any form or sort. Think of this very carefully now for this is very important: Where is there any limitation in the concept behind the word “knowledge”? Being that there is no limitation, what is the value of that word? Infinite. Can you conceive of how that one concept, that one meaning frees you from all limitation? Use your sixth sense to conceive of how the word, the term, the meaning of knowledge can provide with all that you could possibly ever need. If you think carefully you will begin to see glimpses of how this is true in its greatest possible form.

Q: (L) Does this include knowledge learned from books?
A: This includes all possible meanings of the concept of the word.

Q: (L) Can you think of how it would be that simply with one term, this one word can carry so much meaning? We sense that you are not completely aware. You can have glimpses of illumination and illumination comes from knowledge. If you strive perpetually to gain and gather knowledge, you provide yourself with protection from every possible negative occurrence that could ever happen. Do you know why this is?

A: The more knowledge you have, the more awareness you have as to how to protect yourself. Eventually this awareness becomes so powerful and so all encompassing that you do not even have to perform tasks or rituals, if you prefer, to protect yourself. The protection simply comes naturally with the awareness.

Q: (L) Does knowledge have a substance or an existence apart from its possession or its acceptance?
A: Knowledge has all substance. It goes to the core of all existence.

Q: (L) So acquiring knowledge includes adding substance to one’s being?

A: Indeed. It includes adding everything to one’s being that is desirable. And also, when you keep invoking the light, as you do, truly understand that the light is knowledge. That is the knowledge which is at the core of all existence. And being at the core of all existence it provides protection from every form of negativity in existence. Light is everything and everything is knowledge and knowledge is everything. You are doing extremely well in acquiring of knowledge. Now all you need is the faith and realization that acquiring of knowledge is all you need.

Q: (L) I just want to be sure that the source that I am acquiring the knowledge from is not a deceptive source.
A: If you simply have faith, no knowledge that you could possibly acquire could possibly be false because there is no such thing. Anyone or anything that tries to give you false knowledge, false information, will fail. The very material substance that the knowledge takes on, since it is at the root of all existence, will protect you from absorption of false information which is not knowledge. There is no need to fear the absorption of false information when you are simply openly seeking to acquire knowledge. And knowledge forms the protection—all the protection you could ever need.

Q: (L) There are an awful lot of people who are being open and trusting and having faith who are getting zapped and knocked on their rears.
A: No. That is simply your perception. What you are failing to perceive is that these people are not really gathering knowledge. These people are stuck at some point in their pathway to progress and they are undergoing a hidden manifestation of what is referred to in your terms as obsession. Obsession is not knowledge, obsession is stagnation. So, when one becomes obsessed, one actually closes off the absorption and the growth and the progress of soul development which comes with the gaining of true knowledge. For when one becomes obsessed one deteriorates the protection therefore one is open to problems, to tragedies, to all sorts of difficulties. Therefore one experiences same.

Q: (L) While we are on the subject of knowledge and experiencing things that may or may not be pleasant, I would like to ask for Fred what it is he needs to learn?
A: He is moving in the right direction at the present time even though he is not completely aware of that fact. He can appear to be under more stress than he actually is and also he has an extreme store of innate information which is one reason why we are able to work through him because we opened those channels a long time ago. Interestingly enough, though you are not aware of it, your own existence has been influenced by this very same factor.

Q: (L) Which factor?
A: The natural progression being experienced by the one you know as Fred.

Q: (L) In what respect?
A: You are being driven and you are driving yourself in the right direction because of your interaction with this individual even though you are not completely aware of that fact, that is, in fact, what is happening.

Q: (L) What caused Fred to spend so many years interacting with a person such as N___ E___?
A: That was part of the learning process and was also Karmic in nature.

Q: (L) And what brought that whole situation to a halt?
A: It was time to end.

Q: (L) During a previous reading we asked several questions about Jesus of Nazareth known as the Christ. The question was asked: “Was Jesus special, that is, Christed, in some way?” The answer came back was: “Quick exalted; wars; civil entrancement. Zindar council.” I would like to know the meaning of these references.
A: Quick exalted refers to a sudden boost of awareness level as related to your previous questions about knowledge. Sometimes that acquisition can occur in a surge and sometimes this is referred to as illumination. Jesus acquired his knowledge by having complete faith in his ability to acquire the knowledge from a higher source. This faith caused an equal balancing interaction with higher sources, which allowed him to gain supreme knowledge simply by having that faith. Remember that the resources for the acquisition of knowledge in the space/time era of Christ were much more limited than they are now. There were few options open for acquiring true knowledge except total and complete faith. And this one was instilled with the awareness that total and complete faith would cause dramatic and spectacular acquisition of knowledge; also would cause dramatic and spectacular progression of the soul being. Therefore, the faith was felt, the knowledge was received.

Q: (L) What was the source of the knowledge?
A: The source was the sixth level of density which is where we reside and we also were involved in that as well.

Q: (L) What does the term “Civil entrancement” mean?
A: Civil entrancement is a complete balancing of one’s useful energies to a level where there is no experiencing of over balancing on the positive or negative side which is preferable for meditation in a mass form.

Q: (L) What is the Zendar Council?
A: Zendar Council is a sixth level density council which spans both physical and ethereal realms and which oversees dramatic development points at various civilizational sectors in lower density levels.

Q: (L) I would like you to expound a bit on the life of Christ in terms of chronology of events. Could you tell us about his understanding about himself, his interaction with higher sources, his state of being Christed, and what was the true work he came her to do and how did he accomplish it?
A: His awareness of who and what he was gradually came as he grew. He was taught by us through his faith as described previously. And you should have faith as well because you would find things would come to you as “knowings” more often than even now. Jesus awareness of his mission and his actions pertaining to it were part of the natural progression of his growth and development. The information about his “miracles” has been largely corrupted by writings which have been passed down after the actual event period.


Most of these writings are by entities who wish to confuse and corrupt all humanity for previously stated purposes. The idea was that if one perceived Jesus as performing physical miracles, then your entire understanding of what the life experience here on earth and on this plane is, and the meaning for it all, is also corrupted and the knowledge is blocked which is the goal of those who have done this.


Jesus’ purpose and plan was to teach knowledge to all who sought but did not have the strength to express as great a level of faith as he had to acquire the knowledge as he did from higher sources. If they were open and willing to learn they could be taught by hearing. He had only very limited success in imparting faith to others because faith comes solely from within and that is one of the most difficult things for beings on your plane to acquire.

Q: (L) Now, it has been discussed before that Jesus was probably the product of a genetically selected impregnation, could you comment on this and why this would be.

A: There was no genetic selection of the impregnation. That is incorrect.

Q: (L) Okay, then what was it?
A: It was a natural conception.

Q: (L) Well what I meant was that the person was selected to be the biological father.
A: Well, that is always the case in every single birth that occurs in your level of density.

Q: (L) Could you comment on the idea that is implicit in this that Jesus was illegitimate?
A: Obviously if one feels that this would put a shadow or stain on him in some way, or the knowledge that he imparted, then you have not been paying attention. Did you not hear what was said about obsession as opposed to knowledge? Those who are truly, within themselves, at all points of development, trying to seek greater knowledge, will not be blocked by any ideas relating to illegitimacy as you refer to it. Those who are obsessed, by choice, rather than trying to seek true knowledge, will indeed be blocked at that point. It is all up to the choice of the individual. If you choose to develop and gain knowledge then you are never blocked or obsessed at any point about anything ever.


However if you choose to limit your knowledge or become obsessed then you are constantly finding yourself blocked and this will manifest in all your life experiences. That is part of the individual soul development pattern. It is all based on choice. Therefore it is not possible for you to interfere with another’s choice to acquire knowledge or not and how it is or is not done. There is no need to try to alter another’s perceptions because that would be to interfere with free will. If one chooses to be obsessed rather than to be illumined, that is their choice!

Q: (L) We talked about the planet Martek. Is this an ancient human name for Mars or is it an Alien designation?
A: Combination of both as were many things at various levels of the development of your history.

Q: (L) The remark was made that the planet earth, prior to its interaction with Martek, had a water vapor canopy. How was this water vapor canopy suspended?
A: The water vapor canopy was a natural element of the particular composition of your atmosphere at that particular measure point in space/time.

Q: (L) Was the gravity level the same as what it is now?
A: It was somewhat different. But not perceptible to you. That difference is part of the explanation of why that vapor canopy remained suspended.

Q: (L) Did that condition prior to the flood of Noah, the altered gravitational state as well as the water vapor canopy, was that condition more conducive to extended life spans than the conditions that exist on the planet now?
A: Not only those things but all the other conditions that existed on the planet at that particular point in space/time were more conducive to longer life spans. And, by the way, Noah is a symbolic message rather than an historical event.

Q: (L) Do you mean a historical event in the terms of Noah being in an ark or historical event in terms of the flood?

A: First of all, there was no Noah. Secondly there was no actual real flood as depicted in that story. Thirdly, the whole story was a symbolic message as opposed to an actual event.

Q: (L) What did actually occur and what does the symbolism have to tell us?
A: It is a very broad representation. It simply means that there was a cataclysmic event that did envelop the whole planet at that time and that those that were ready to experience that as part of their soul development without exiting the body, were warned ahead of time. But not by trying to manipulate events, but by simply allowing faith to let them acquire knowledge and being naturally drawn into position to experience what they needed to experience to survive the event.

Q: (L) At that time was Martek drawn close to the earth and did it have water on its surface which the earth then robbed or borrowed?
A: That is very close to being the case. It is far more complicated than that so we will leave that at this time.

Q: (L) Tell me about the Nephilim.
A: That was a race of beings in the third level of density which came from an actual planet at another point in this particular galaxy also in the third level of density, who were taken, or shall we say kidnapped, reprogrammed and retrained by the Lizard Beings to act as enforcers during a particular era of what you would measure as your past.

Q: (L) What era was that?
A: That was an era... it would have been approximately 8 to 5 thousand years ago but there are also dates relating to 12 to 14 thousand years ago and others. Dating system is not ours and does not exist for us.

Q: (L) For how many years did these beings exist on our earth?
A: Approximately 15 to 18 hundred years. They died off because they were not able to reproduce naturally in the atmosphere of the earth and experimentation to try to cause them to intermix with the human population did not succeed.

Q: (L) When did the last of them die off?
A: Probably near 6 to 7 thousand years ago. But there is also a reference point of 12 to 14 thousand years as well.

Q: (L) What was the name of the planet they came from?
A: Dorlaqua.

Q: (L) Where was this planet located?
A: This planet was located in the Orion complex.

Q: (L) After the “flood of Noah” approximately how many people survived that cataclysm on the whole earth?
A: Approximately 19 million.

Q: (L) Why did the population of the earth continue to decline from that point?
A: Because of disease and inability to adjust due to artificial manipulations of the genetic pool.

Q: (L) What did the tower of Babel look like?
A: Looked very similar to your Washington monument. Which re-creation is an ongoing replication of a soul memory.

Q: (L) Would the great pyramid in Egypt still work if someone knew how to use it?
A: It still works today even though it isn’t being artificially used. It was also a preservative chamber. If you were to walk inside the confines of the great pyramid and then leave the body, your body would retain its structure for quite some time. This ability has contributed to the preservation of the actual structure.

Q: (L) What did the original face on the sphinx look like?
A: Looked like a representation of a feline and a human.

Q: (L) At one point in a previous transmission it was stated that the Lizard beings altered the human race after a battle for their own “feeding” purposes. Could you clarify this?
A: It would not be possible for these beings to completely control your existence. If it were you would not be able to do the things your race has done. There has been interference by the Lizard beings in the physical structure of the human beings for their own benefit. Remember what we told you before. They have been interfering with the time cycle experienced on this plane, for quite some time as you measure it. For 74 thousand years they have been interfering in a backwards and forwards time reference manner in order to set up circumstances that they perceive to be beneficial for them in the measure of time that you would consider to be forward, that is, in the future. They have been going backwards and forwards in time to do this. They are suspended in the time cycle as they do this. So what they perceive as being your equivalent of one hour could be as long as 74 thousand years.

Q: (L) So they haven’t been here for 300 thousand years?
A: They originally set up circumstances for their benefit 309 thousand years ago, however, they have been using the particular bracketed period of the 74 thousand year period alter things in all the various ways mentioned earlier.

Q: (L) Now you mentioned the creators of your group as the super ancient ancestors called the transient passengers, what is the meaning of this term and who are these beings?
A: Transient passengers are not beings. Transient Passengers are unified thought form.

Q: (L) Why are they called transient passengers?
A: Because they transit all forms of reality. And they spring forth from the Unified form of existence.

Q: (L) The planet that was destroyed between Jupiter and Mars that we now know as the asteroid belt, you said was destroyed by psychic energy. Could you clarify that?
A: The occupants of that planet, many of whom are your soul ancestors, simply decided to develop a service to self atmosphere that was so super charged in the negative that it actually caused their home planet to be destroyed because the energy levels became so intense crashing back upon themselves that they actually destroyed the atomic structure of the planet, causing it to physically explode.

Q: (L) Was this done technologically or was it strictly done by mind power?
A: They are one and the same.

Q: (L) Did they do something like drop bombs?
A: No, no. This was done by psychic energy. There has been in a transient fashion of reality the danger of the same thing happening on your planet. Although we are quite confident it won’t because we see all reality, past present and future. But, you must understand also that even in our particular perspective point, all reality is nonetheless fluid. There are still many choices of realities and possible futures and possible pasts and possible presents. But we feel fairly confident that that particular fate will not befall your planet, although it did the one then known as Kantek.

Q: (L) On a couple of occasions it has been mentioned that Yasser Arafat was a fifth density soul and that he was a descendant of Jesus of Nazareth. What is there about him that demonstrates these qualities or these genetics?
A: Have you not seen? Imagine what it would be like to be Yasser Arafat. Look at your perception. What is he doing now?

Q: (L) Well the pro-Jewish point of view is not favorable to him.
A: Well, what you describe as pro anything is an obsession. And, as we know, obsession blocks knowledge which in turn blocks the ability to protect oneself against negative occurrences. Not a good idea. If you were following circumstances, Yasser Arafat is now trying to take the world upon his shoulders by making peace with the Israelis who have been enemies for a very long time. And, therefore, he is now a peace maker and knowledge dispenser.

Q: (L) In that particular conflict between the Jews and the Arabs, which side has the greater validity?
A: All sides have equal validity. It is only with individuals we find negativity or positivity.

Q: (L) In discussion of a purported crash of a space craft in Roswell, it was remarked that this crash was caused by ionization. Could you be more specific?
A: That reference simply means the bouncing of what you call radar beams off of the ions existing in the atmosphere at the time, caused electromagnetic disturbance which interfered the gravitational balancing system of that particular craft.

Q: (L) Why were the ions present at that time and not at other times?
A: The ions were charged at that time because of storm activity.

Q: (L) You said that there were bodies recovered by the government. How many bodies were recovered?
A: Three dead and one still in operation.

Q: (L) How long did the one live?
A: Remained in operation for approximately 3 and a half years. It was a robotic biogenetic being rather than a soul encompassing physical existence.

Q: (L) Did the government know that it was a robotic being?
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they still think it was a living being?
A: The government is not one individual. Some are now aware that these are biogenetic engineered beings.

Q: (L) In another transmission we were told that we would receive information from a different being each time of contact in order to get good information. Why is this?
A: That is to make sure that balance and equilibrium is maintained and also informational sources are fresh in the interaction between the giver and the receiver.

Q: Well, that is it for tonight. Thank you.
A: Good Night.

End of Session


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