by E. Vegh


from TheLivingRoom Website



  1. Chapter: Who were the Anunnaki?

  2. Chapter: Hell, UFOs and Angelic Beings

  3. Chapter: Star Gate











Study the past if you would define the future.

The compilation and fruition of this book was a long time in the making. As theories tend to evolve slowly, so also did I arrive at the concepts advanced in this book, one discovery at a time. Being a long time student and armchair scholar of the biblical prophecies, I furthered my understanding of ancient times and texts, by expanding my studies into the realms of several ancient cultures.


I researched areas such as the ancient Sumerians, the biblical Nephilim, pseudopigraphia, and the various works of art, cuneiforms and ancient texts.


My studies ranged over topics as outlandish as "stargates" and as mainstream as the compiled works of accepted theologians, eschatologists, scholars and linguists of various caliber. Suddenly, a new thread appeared before me, a thread the years had all but covered in the forgetfulness of time.


After further study and much thought, I began to see the need to share these discoveries with the reading public.

It is my hope that you will find the information contained herein, to be both revealing and useful to your own historical, Sumerian and biblical studies.


If nothing else, it will provide an interesting foray into the histories of the ancient peoples and their related texts.

~E. Vegh

August 2005

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It's a dangerous business going out your front door.
- J. R. R. Tolkien

The Fellowship of the Ring

Abyss = Abzu

Many scholars have translated the word "Abyss" to mean, a deep body of water. Likewise, assyriologists assume the Sumerian "Abzu" is a mythological deep body of fresh water, an underground water source.


However, considering the ways in which both the Abyss and Abzu are described in ancient texts and depicted on cylinder seals, it's highly unlikely that any such translation is completely revealing or entirely accurate. In this book, I will describe how and why such translations are incorrect and provide a feasible set of alternative viewpoints for your consideration.

According to biblical texts, there's a hidden door to the "Abyss" and "Bottomless Pit" in the vicinity of the Euphrates river, a star gate of sorts. It has been there, buried under the ruins of the ancient Mesopotamian city of Eridu, for thousands of years. [1]


It's my contention, that this Abyss mentioned in the bible, is also referred to in Sumerian texts as the "Abzu," and is associated with a Sumerian God known as "Enki-Ea."

The Abzu or Engur, is further described as a doorway from which Enki-Ea arrived on the Earth and over which he built the Temple of E.ABZU at Eridu, to facilitate its usage. Yes, you heard me right: usage. But to what end would he be using it? Certainly not for fresh water when the Euphrates was close at hand and abundantly fresh. If this "Abzu" was also the doorway from his "land" to the Earth, in what fashion would he be using it then? How did it function and just where exactly is his "land?" [2]

Stranger still, in the biblical texts, the Abyss (Abzu) is "opened" with a key and locked with a key. If this Abyss were a literal body of water, how would one go about unlocking and locking it with a key? Is it all a metaphor for some unseen spiritual dimension with a spiritual, not literal, key?


I think not and in this book, I will attempt to prove just such a point.



Anunnaki = Angels

In addition to sharing my discoveries regarding the Abyss/Abzu, I will also be providing alternative explanations as to the identity of the ancient Sumerian Gods, known as the Anunnaki.


There is much confusion amongst scholars, researchers and laymen, as regards the identity of the Anunnaki. Some refer to them as extra-terrestrials, which technically, is correct. However, there is another layer to that definition which many either don't see, refuse to see or simply ignore. Some refer to them as demons, which is incorrect, a point I will discuss briefly, later in the book.


Some refer to them as the biblical Nephilim, also an incorrect analogy. Some refer to them as the "Gods" of the ancients, and although technically correct, I intend to prove this was a case of mistaken identity on the part of the ancient peoples, rather than the reality of the situation. And some believe the ancients were worshipping the stars, and had simply deified them in their art and literature.


Although there is sufficient evidence to suggest the ancients did indeed worship the stars and planets, there exists a logical explanation for why they did so that does not require calling them delusional, or simply dealing in metaphors for the stars in every text and art-form. Generally-speaking, the Sumerian texts were historical not fictional metaphors.

As a natural outcropping of the discovery of the true identity of the Anunnaki, the Abyss and Abzu become clearly identified and vice-a-versa. In other words, the Anunnaki and the Abyss go hand in hand and further define one another. This is an essential point and one that requires careful consideration if you wish to correctly understand the entirety of the events of ancient Sumer, Akkad, Babylon and biblical prophecy.


(Disclaimer: I, by no means, understand the entirety of prophecy or history. However, the subject of the Anunnaki and the Abyss/Abzu, is one I have found highly significant. It hasn't been given sufficient research by the mainstream theological, archaeological and historical communities, in my opinion).

So, without further ado, my short eBook on the topic of "The Anunnaki and the Abyss!" I hope you find it engaging and revealing.


1 Revelation 9
2 For related, translated Sumerian texts, see: Sumerian Reading Room.

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Chapter 1
Who were the Anunnaki?

There are a terrible lot of lies going around the world,
and the worst of it is half of them are true.
-Sir Winston Churchill

Few people agree on the identity of the Sumerian Anunnaki. However, one viewpoint seems to be generally accepted by many people of many disciplines: The Anunnaki were worshipped as Gods by the Sumerian people. To understand why such an event occurred, one must also understand the timeframe.

Ancient Sumer was the first civilization on the planet (to date).


It was ushered in by the Anunnaki, who taught the people music, the sciences, astronomy, languages (both spoken and written), mathematics, herbology, manipulation of the environment, hybridization of crops, genetic manipulation of livestock, religion, sexual promiscuity, war, mining for resources, jewelry-making, tailoring, blacksmithing, architecture, art, poetry, human sacrifice, and the whole gamut of "civilized behaviors."


In fact, these events are not only outlined in the writings of the ancient Sumerians, but also in the Bible, the pseudopigraphia of the Hebrews [1] and the ancient texts of the Hindu.

In the midst of all this, was Enki-Ea, the Anunnaki Lord of the Abzu. [2] As a result, this book will deal primarily with Enki or Enki-Ea, as his role in the events in which the Abzu plays a prominent part, is paramount in understanding the whys and wherefores of the Abyss, the Bottomless Pit, the behavior of the ancient peoples, and the prophetical biblical texts (both Old and New Testaments).

Enki was not only the Lord of the Abzu and creator of the Temple of the E.ABZU at Eridu, he was purported to be the creator of the human race in the ancient Sumerian texts. This is, of course, in direct contradiction with biblical texts in which Elohim (God of the Gods) [3] is the creator of humanity. How this contradiction occurred and what it means to us today, is the premise of "The Anunnaki and the Abyss."


Therefore, let us investigate this Enki character further so we can ascertain once and for all, who the Anunnaki were and how they impact us.

In addition to creating "humans" (and I use that word loosely), Enki purportedly created "monsters," such as various animal-human hybrids, in his Temple of E.ABZU at Eridu. In short, he was playing with the genetics of the various species of life on this planet. So rather than saying he created humans, it would be more correct to say he created another form of human from pre-existing humans.


He also designed a race of supermen, known in the biblical texts as the "Nephilim." These supermen were entrusted with positions of authority, and became rulers, leaders and kings. One such example was "Gilgamesh", King of Uruk, who considered himself two-thirds God as a result of his lineage from the Anunnaki and Enki.[4]

Upon first encountering "humans" on the planet, Enki determined they were in need of an upgrade, according to the Sumerian texts. They were uncivilized, and ran about sans clothing, drinking from the rivers like the animals and living pretty much free of the trappings of civilization. So he set about creating his supermen and their first "civilization" by melding Anunnaki DNA with human DNA and installing his creatures in the seats of power as rulers of the masses.


And so began the Sumerian civilization.


Does any of this sound familiar? It should.


Enki is undoubtedly the source of the biblical "Serpent in the Garden of Eden." The unwitting humans upon which he preyed, became his first test subjects, who would be "upgraded" for kingship, enlightened, as it were, "knowing good and evil."

These "became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

(Genesis 6:4)

Enki's primary motivation was the business of creating Nephilim, to rule over the people and exact penance and slavery from them, once they were "civilized." According to the biblical texts, the creators of the Nephilim were the "sons of God,", who came down from heaven and created mighty men. In other words, they were angelic beings who created human hybrids either through genetic manipulation or via sexual intercourse with the pre-existing population.


So where does that leave Enki and the Anunnaki?


If you haven't guessed it by now, Enki and the Anunnaki were the Fallen Angels of the biblical texts. Who else would be the ruler of the "Bottomless Pit" but the Lord of the Abzu!

Unfortunately, once humans were civilized and the hybrid population began to increase, chaos ensued. The animal and human genomes were so polluted, sickness and disease were rampant. The environment became polluted also and the entire destiny of humankind was in the balance. Among the many horrors of this timeframe, were a nuclear war [5] and the onset of rampant cannibalism, during which the Nephilim began to eat the human population as a food source.


These events lead up to the Flood of Mesopotamian tradition, spoken of in the Bible and in Sumerian, Akkadian and Babylonian texts. It's no small wonder that the Fallen Angels/Anunnaki responsible for such a fiasco, were forced to go back through the door of the Abzu by the biblical God, after which the thing was "locked" and buried under several feet of silt and rock, so that they could not return here that is, until the events of Revelation 9 occur.


Yes, the Anunnaki responsible for the deaths of literally millions, who were instrumental in the pollution of all life on the planet, who assisted in necessitating the Flood, who were involved in our expulsion from Eden, and who had preyed on our species for millennia, are going to return via the "stargate" many of them employed to get here in the first place.


'How so?' you might ask. Answer: They were not the only Anunnaki in the universe, and time has a way of providing the means to anyone who has the determination to meet a goal.

In fact, after the Flood, more Anunnaki came to re-infiltrate the planet and the genome. Apparently, we were easy pickins' and not too terribly discerning. Undaunted by the punishment inflicted on their brethren, other Anunnaki returned to continue their program of systematic annihilation of the human species as an eternal life-form.


And therein lies the clincher and the mystery, the point repeatedly hidden from our race by principalities, powers, rulers of darkness in high places (otherwise known as The Powers That Be or TPTB): You see, human beings were and are eternal, capable of being resurrected to eternal life in their own bodies but the human-hybrid Nephilim were not as their bodies were not created by God. As a result, their eternal spirits were left to roam eternity without a physical form, without the ability to touch, feel, eat, smell, or enjoy eternity.


These became the demons, who, in their efforts to regain what they had lost, attempted (and still do) to possess the physical bodies of living beings.


(Note: This also clearly separates them from the Anunnaki. They are the human-hybrid offspring of the Anunnaki and not the Anunnaki, themselves. Although the two have been confused in historical texts, this was most likely the result of the combining of both under one umbrella, for ease of reference: like father, like son. Like Fallen Angel, like Demon).

For example, Gilgamesh bemoans his hopeless situation as a Nephilim, in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Because he was not fully angelic, nor fully human, he would be destined to roam the earth as a demonic spirit upon the death of his physical body. He attempts to learn the secrets of eternal life and immortality from the biblical Noah, but returns empty-handed. His fate had already been sealed by the Anunnaki who had created him.


The actions of his life, as King, were certainly evidence enough that he was not a righteous man, nor was he acting in the best interests of his people.


He spent a good portion of his time creating more Nephilim of his own, by sexually accosting the brides of his kingdom on the eve of their weddings, thereby assuring that every first born child in his kingdom, would be Nephilim. Thusly, why the tradition of the "First Born," became so important to the royal classes for literally, millennia.


Ever wonder why the "Angel of Death," killed only the "first born" of Egypt, commemorated in the Hebrew Passover?


Well, now you know. If positions of authority and power were to be handed out to the population, one had to be sure they were "worthy" of it. Apparently, worthiness was measured by the amount of "angelic" blood one had flowing in their veins, which ironically, guaranteed them a chance of the good life while in their physical bodies with little to no chance of a good life in the hereafter. Not a very attractive proposition.

The rationale behind the bloodline inheritances went deeper, however, than simply blood. These were "mighty" people. They were highly skilled in some fashion, being either incredibly talented, incredibly strong, or incredibly intelligent.


They had supernatural gifts, as well, such as extra-sensory perception, the ability to seemingly defy various aspects of the physical universe and presumably perform "magical" feats of derring-do. In short, they were so far ahead of the common man, they were easily able to enslave them in the name of their Anunnaki progenitors.


I have only to remind you of the Great Pyramid of Cheops (Khufu), to illustrate just how advanced the Nephilim were.


These hybrids understood physics, complex mathematical computations, large scale resource management, architecture, advanced astronomy and geometry, before most of the world had even figured out how to count to 20 on their toes and fingers or read, for that matter.

All of this leads us to the next topic: if the Anunnaki/Fallen Angels came to earth from some other place, what is that place and how did they get here?


1 See The Book of Enoch
2 Enki's Journey to Nibiru : The Oriental Institute, University of Oxford; Electronic Corpus of Sumerian Literature
3 See King James Sacred Name Bible
4 See The Epic of Gilgamesh
5 See the "Vimanas" of the Mahabarata

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Chapter 2
Hell, UFOs and Angelic Beings

When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
- Arthur C. Clarke

Clarke's first law

Artistic rendering of an actual statue

ca.4000 BC, found in Ur.[1]

Typically referred to as Hell, the domain of the Fallen Angels is an enigmatic place.


Biblically and historically, Hell is said to be many things, including: a firey place of torment, a burial heap outside the city limits, the grave, the Bottomless Pit, the Abyss, and the Underworld.


Several concepts have been melded together to form that one infamous and enigmatic residence of the Fallen Angels.


When taken together, they describe various aspects of "Hell," which I think is the best possible answer to the question of what Hell actually is: rather than a single four word description, we can combine its many aspects for a clearer picture.

For example, if Hell were literally the grave, how could it also be a place of torment or the Bottomless Pit? If it were literally a burial heap outside the city limits, how could it also be the underworld or a fiery place of torment?


Now combine the concepts: It's obviously connected to the "underground", thusly the grave, Bottomless Pit and Abyss references, which amazingly, also confirms it as the Sumerian Abzu, the Greek Hades and the Roman Pluto (not to be confused with the planet Pluto)!


In other words, these concepts validate and as a whole, describe, at least one of the major domains of the Fallen Angels mentioned repeatedly, in nearly every culture in history. I say "one of the major domains," because, like it or not, the Fallen Angels have also set up housekeeping on Earth and around Earth space, as well.

In fact, it is my contention that the Fallen Angels are more than partially responsible for most UFO activity and "alien" abductions encountered by humans down through the annals of history. Let's take, for example, the Anunnaki "Igigi" of Akkadian and Babylonian fame.


The cuneiform word "gi" [2] is the symbol for sexual intercourse, to deflower sexually. "" means in Akkadian, inu "eye", and is combined with the symbol for deflowering sexually. "Igigi" can then be translated to mean, the "Watchers", the "Eyes in the Sky" who deflower sexually (, the Anunnaki/Fallen Angels).


Yet, according to the Sumerian texts, the Igigi were the Greater Gods and didn't come to the earth, but remained up in the sky, circumnavigating the globe. So how is it they "Deflowered" anyone while being uninvolved in the activities of the humans on the planet?


Abduction, my friends, abduction. And they are still at it today.


It says in the Bible that the Apocalypse would feature aspects quite similar to the days of Noah leading up to the flood, such as a huge population of Nephilim created by Anunnaki involvement with our species, abuse of the environment, genetic manipulation of life on the planet, poisoning of our food sources, and so on, mostly as a result of their Nephilim progeny carrying out the Anunnaki agenda. Here we go again.


How ironic that even in the face of historical precedence, we are right back where we started from.


Who is really in control of this planet? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count. Sadly, many from the UFO community do not recognize the danger of the Anunnaki.


After all, they say,

"Didn't the extra-terrestrials save us from launching nuclear bombs at one another?"

"Aren't they more advanced on the evolutionary scale?"

This, they believe, is evidence that the aliens/Anunnaki/Fallen Angels, have our best interests at heart.


However, many don't take into consideration the past of the Anunnaki and that their final agenda has not yet been met: that is, the annihilation of humans as an eternal LIFEform. As a human, if you die, your body can still be resurrected to eternal life. As a result, any actions they may or may not take, whether seemingly good or bad, will inevitably lead to the latter for as many people as possible.


That's the plan, and it is clearly outlined in scripture with hundreds of other ancient texts from various cultures to verify the historical precedence. Don't believe me? Think I'm just a crazy Bible thumper? Read the Hindu Mahabarata. [3]

Let me reiterate: THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS.

Anyway, back to the topic of that enigmatic domain of the Fallen Angels. Some believe the Anunnaki came from Nibiru and believe Nibiru is another planet, elsewhere in the solar system.


However, Nibiru is spoken of in the Sumerian texts as the holy city of Enlil, containing his temple the E-Kur, which sits on a mountain surrounded by cedar trees with a gate up to the heavens:

"In the city, the holy settlement of Enlil, in Nibiru, the beloved shrine of father Great Mountain, he has made the dais of abundance, the E-kur, the shining temple [...]"

"Enlil , when you marked out the holy settlements, you also built Nibiru, your own city."

-Quotations from "Enlil in the E.KUR" [4]

According to Sumerian texts, Enki travels to Nibiru, Enlil's city, where he meets with the other Anunnaki, including Enlil and they proceed to get totally drunk.


No gates, no fanfare, no heaven-earth bond, he just travels to Nibiru. This Nibiru, my friends, is/was not another planet. It was right here on good ole' Terra (Earth) at Enlil's city.


However, the Abzu does lead to some other-wordly place and that place is most likely not the literal center of the Earth or "underground." The only thing that is or was underground was the "door" to the stargate itself, called the Abzu which leads to Erkalla or Kurnugi (among other distant places in the universe), the land of no return (for humans, anyway), the land of darkness, pain, sorrow, and so forth, very "Abyss-ian" if you ask me!


Conversely, Enlil, an Anunnaki and Enki's father or brother, depending on which story you read, appears to have had a star gate of his own at E.KUR in Nippur, called the DUR.ANKI, the heaven-earth bond, which lead to the Courtyard of "An" in "heaven", who was the premiere Anunnaki. Both of these "star gates" have seven gates between Earth and their final "mentioned" destinations. [5]


The salient point to remember here is that they were all sons of Jehovah Elohim (, other creations) and not literally Elohim, themselves (although I have seen them described as elohim - diminutive). As yet, I have no reason to believe that "An" was Elohim either, but I have plenty of reason to believe Enlil and Enki were Angels created by Elohim, in a different creation cycle before our time.

The Gods and the greater Gods, were most likely the fallen angels and the fallen archangels in many cases, and would correspond with the Sumerian Anuna and the Anunnaki/Igigi. There's historical precedence for this viewpoint in the ancient Hebrew texts, the Bible and various other ancient texts.


I believe these texts indicate that the fallen angelic beings were "stuck" as it were, in the physical universe and have to rely on technology in order to traverse the reaches of space, having been stripped of the ability to cross the dimensions into God's presence (They were "cast out of Heaven"). However, the holy angels and archangels have an entirely different set of abilities and options, from what I can ascertain.


They are primarily messengers, and stay out of human affairs with the exception of when under direct commandment from God, which typically involves protecting humans from the fallen angels. In fact, many times in the Old Testament and New, you can read about the angels protecting humans from various problems almost always directly associated with the fallen angels in some aspect.


The good news is, if you're an abductee or don't wish to become one, there is someone who can protect you from abduction by these extra-terrestrial, fallen angels. His name is Jesus

So there you have it. The Fallen Angels, in most cases, are extra-terrestrials, responsible for many (if not all) legitimate accounts of abductions and sightings. They have employed technology to mimic the works of God down through the millennia.


By manipulating the physical realm with dramatic outcomes, they have convinced many that the spiritual does not exist and that all instances of the miraculous are/were simply clever aliens using technology or explainable by the sciences, as they have done for thousands of years.


They've implanted their hybrids in the highest offices of our lands and in the seats of power of every major institution and corporation, for as long as there have been seats of power to sit upon. If you've ever wondered why you couldn't get ahead in life, no matter how hard you tried, you have only to give thanks for your humanity (and do give thanks for it).


The invisible ceiling we've all suspected existed in the higher echelons of power, does indeed exist. We may no longer have to wear our place in the caste system boldly painted our foreheads today, but that doesn't mean we aren't still categorized for success or failure from the moment of birth. Any variation or deviation from the poverty and servitude normally assigned the lowly human race by the fallen angels and their prodigy, is truly a miracle of God.

What does all this have to do with the Abzu and the Abyss? That is the subject of the next chapter.


1 Lost Treasures from Iraq - Oriental Institute, University of Chicago
2 The Basis of the Babylonian Igigi
3 The Mahabarata - Internet Sacred Text Archive
4 Enlil in the E.KUR - Earth History
5 Nergal and Ereshkigal - Earth History

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Chapter 3
Star Gate

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I found it!) but 'That's funny ...'
- Isaac Asimov

(1920 - 1992)

The stargates of Enki and Enlil were discussed briefly, in the last chapter. Prior to that, I skimmed the topics related to Hell, the Abyss, the Abzu and the Bottomless Pit.


Now, to tie all the ends together into a cohesive unit.

Revelation 9, in the New Testament of the Bible, explains in detail the re-opening of Enki's "Abzu":

  1. And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

  2. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

A "star fall(ing) from heaven," is a biblical idiom for describing a fallen angel descending to earth, which I believe is further identified as a fallen angel descending to earth in a spacecraft, an UFO.


Upon reaching the Earth, he opens the Abyss with a key.


Obviously, he's not opening the ocean with a key, so this "Abyss" reference is the same as the reference to the "Abzu": et. al, it's underground and it's an entrance or exit, as the case may be. In fact, it's underground in the same vicinity (i.e., near the Euphrates) as Enki's Abzu!


Coincidence? I think not. Furthermore, it's also called the "Bottomless Pit." As far as I am aware, there's nothing "Bottomless", about the depths of the Earth.


But there is something bottomless about a stargate, a wormhole or any variation thereof.

  1. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

There's two very interesting coincidences in the above verse:

  1. Wasn't the first King of Egypt called the "Scorpion King"?

  2. Aren't there abduction stories that describe the abductors as appearing like bugs of various sorts - praying mantis aliens, grey bug-eyed aliens, and so on?

Let's look into their descriptions further:

  1. And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

  2. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

  3. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

  4. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

Sounds like an invasion of UFOs with extra-terrestrial pilots, to me. And they don't appear to be employing any stealth technology - no need to I guess, since by then, their agenda is fully set and loaded for deployment.


The magnitude of sound may enhance the sheer fear factor such an event would naturally inspire in the average human being. In fact, they are so noisy, the sound of their "wings" is like the sound of many horses running to battle, obviously causing the ground to shake with their powerful presence.


Not a pleasant scenario. What an entrance!

  1. And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

This one had me puzzled for a long time. How did Enki, our resident Lord of the Abzu, become Apollyon and Abaddon?


I researched the etymology of both names and found an interesting coincidence. In a branch of the Euphrates river that separates Iraq from Iran, is a little island called "Abadan." Abadan is an ancient Arabic family name that means "Watcher of the Water." Yes, my friends, there was the etymological origins of our Enki-Ea, in living color.



Abadan is named for Abbad, a member of the Abbasid dynasty who founded the city in the 8th century. Some etymological experts however, believe the name to have originated from the Persian word "ab" (water) and the root "pa" (guard, watch).

And here's where things get really interesting:

After all, we're being visited by alien spacecraft on a regular basis, these days. And Saddam was certainly a busy little archaeologist prior to the invasion. He was even rebuilding Babylon, that proverbial "Gateway of the Gods."


There are even TV shows and a movie on the subject of star gates (see Stargate: SG-1, Stargate: Atlantis and Stargate, the movie) with, oddly enough, a very similar premise!


All coincidence? Are you kidding me?


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