Mark Phillips: Thank you John. And thank you all of Granada Forum. You folks really
represent what I fantasize will happen all across this great land.
As a matter of fact, around the world.
You've heard a number of speakers in the past that have enlightened
you on a variety of subjects. The one tonight - this is very
apropos that it be Halloween - this is probably the worst story
you've ever heard.
I spent a great deal of time trying to not want to believe this. But
unfortunately, the evidence is that support not only Cathy O'Brien's
story, and the other evidences that Senator John DeCamp from the
Nebraska cover-up - Franklin cover-up as it's known - support what
you are going to be hearing tonight.
In addition to that, there has
been a tremendous amount of information that has surfaced over the
past three years, that has come from people who have been on the
front lines. Not only therapists, but we have got generals and
colonels from all branches of the military, and members of
intelligence that have provided us with literally tons of
documentation - not only supporting Cathy's story but thousands of
others just like her.
Cathy O'Brien is not unique. I wish she were. Because if she were, I
would not be in front of you tonight. Because it would mean that
this problem went no further.
Unfortunately, that is not the case.
What has happened to Cathy O'Brien is happening all around the
world, and it's happening in day-care centers, it's happening in
homes - and not homes of Appalachian people who lack any education,
or any written language skills, who have been practicing incest for
years - this is happening as a result of a very coordinated effort
that has come out of the intelligence communities, again, from
around the world.
My role in all of this is relatively simple, but nevertheless
complex. I'm going to give you all a background tonight of a few
I can't, nor can Cathy, discuss what we may surmise are other
victims, other than the ones that are the most obvious ones, like
Timothy McVeigh. And again, it is not our experience, we have no
proof, we only have Mr. McVeigh's admissions and some other
information that would support it.
We've spent about five and a half years on the lecture circuit with
law enforcement and mental health. Now that was done to protect us.
It was also done to ferret out as much information as we could
regarding other survivors, as well as ferreting out information
through law enforcement, or I should say cooperative law enforcement
who are like you all, they're free-thinkers and they knew something
was going on but they didn't understand it.
I will attempt to give you some background on myself so that you'll
have some understanding of how I was able to do what we've
accomplished, Cathy and I. But our main concern, of course, remains
the same focus, and that is to get this information out to the
populace of this country and all the other countries that are
affected, and we don't know of many that aren't.
And also to affect
Cathy O'Brien's institutionalized daughter, Kelly. Who, by the way,
went into an institution when she was eight years-old, right after I
rescued them, and she remains in that institution, or an
institutionalized setting to this day.
I don't know how many of you all can imagine being a child and being
raised in a mental institution. But I can assure you, it is not a
pretty sight. Even though Kelly has not been mistreated as she had
been prior to going in to the institution.
External control of the mind is not something new. It's thousands of
years old. It's recorded in caves, it's recorded - the exact
trauma-based mind control - in the
Egyptian Book of the
Adolf Hitler was particularly interested in mind control and
he assigned his right-hand man, Heinrich Himmler, to do some
research, particularly on the families of Northern European
multi-generational sexually abused, psychologically abused,
physically abused children.
You see, I'm sure each of us understands, those of us that read the
Bible and understand its literal interpretation about "the sins of
the father", understand what "multigenerational abuse" means. In
this case, multigenerational abuse - and that begins by the way at
birth - involves horrendous sexual, and psychological and physical
abuse that is put on these children by their care-givers.
Adolf Hitler knew that these people who are abused become very, very
receptive to external control of their mind. They also develop some
incredible abilities - like forty-four times visual acuity. Now I
know that it doesn't take a rocket scientist - pardon the pun - to
figure out how we could use somebody with forty-four times the
average person's visual acuity. It's called Special Forces. Special
Forces individuals are screened very carefully.
Now back when I was working for the Defense Department in a project
known as MKULTRA, which was the exact project that Adolf Hitler
assigned Himmler to do, on multigenerationally abused children, I
saw nothing of what Cathy O'Brien is reporting. I saw no abuse. What
I saw in the prison systems and in the mental institutions were
people who had a chance to recover their lives and their mind.
things that were very benevolent. And I really and truly believed
the information that I was seeing would eventually reduce our prison
and our mental institution populations - dramatically. Because I
saw true rehabilitation occur without the use of trauma.
Well, I was sworn to secrecy on the things that I witnessed, on the
equipment that was developed, and I can assure you that in 1967 all
the way up through 1973 when I was involved in this research as a
Defense Department subcontractor, the equipment that I saw then was
25 to 30 years ahead of anything known on this planet in the private
I don't know if I was even seeing a portion of what was
actually available. I don't know if what I was witnessing
represented even a small percentage of what was actually occurring.
But I was put into that job after months and months and months of
psychological examinations because they knew I could keep a secret.
I was given a Defense Department clearance.
I knew about the
Heinrich Himmler studies for Adolf Hitler, and I knew that Adolf
Hitler wanted to develop some very serious people to put in places
to control various regions in what he called, and what George Bush
called, and Nero called,
the New World Order.
You see, Adolf Hitler was not the first, nor was George Bush, to
fantasize about this hideous idea of totalitarian government,
enslaving the entire globe through
Now, mind manipulation comes in a lot of forms. You folks in this
room are not falling into one big huge trap, and that is,
And I again, thank the Granada Forum for bringing Cathy and I in to
impart this message, because we need your support. This book (Trance
Formation of America) is not distributed through bookstores for the
most part. The few bookstores that do handle it, handle it directly
To guard the integrity of the book so that it would go
totally uncensored, we published it ourselves the first time. We now
have an opportunity before us because many of the people Cathy has
mentioned in the book have been indicted for a variety of reasons,
or are facing indictments, or have fled their respective countries,
or stepped down from power. For one simple reason: corruption that
they could not cover up.
Now the corruption that we are talking about here goes beyond, I
hope, most of your limits of experience. It certainly went beyond
Adolf Hitler had the largest number of human subjects from which to
work and do his horror on. And it was even accepted by most of the
people in his country, that these prisoners of war were indeed to be
subjected to anything that he chose that would better his country.
MKULTRA took on the same scientists, because in 1947, when the
National Security Act was formed, there was a project developed
It was a few airlines at that time that
were cranked up. Capital International Airlines was one of those
airlines. I was vice-president of Capital Airlines for a period of
Well, Cathy O'Brien certainly is a remarkable person, but I can
assure you that the prognosis for recovery of someone who has been
horribly abused before age five - before the brain is fully formed - the level of recovery is very good.
These people can lead normal
productive lives, even though they've experienced in most cases a
lifetime of horrific abuse. That was the thing that surprised me the
Now there are a lot of survivors out there. There are a lot of
survivors in various levels of recovery. Cathy is, again, the only
one that we know of that is vocal, that has written a book, that's
been validated and we haven't been locked up.
Now, I want everybody
in this room to understand that neither Cathy or I are suicidal, and
we just came back from Arkansas and I want to tell you - Cathy and
I were invited over there, spent 4 days with the investigators,
because they had found one chapter of her book that they were
actually able to validate.
"Well, give it to me in print."
And they said,
"Well, we can't do that."
And I said,
"Well, okay, can
I use this recording?"
I was only joking... They patted me down
before I went in. But no, these people are what I consider friends,
of yours and mine.
Now, if there any CIA operatives in this room,
you don't have to hold up your hand, but I'll tell you where I
stand, I want you to come see me alone, particularly if you're
trying to disrupt what we're doing, because this information that Adolf Hitler was developing, we developed through
Project Paperclip was the importation of Nazi and fascist scientists
into this country after World War II that saturated our
universities, saturated our Fortune 500 corporations, saturated
NASA, it built NASA, and it has infiltrated every aspect of society
with its filth! Filth in child pornography, filth in blood rituals
and hideous religious beliefs that involve human sacrifice - anything to traumatize the mind.
I'm approached by a number of avid researchers who say, "Well, this
is Satan behind it". Well, I want to tell you, these are people
behind it, because I worked for the airline that brought these folks
in. I had no idea what I was involved in but I was recruited by
Capital International Airways for the purposes that I could keep my
mouth shut and I worked on a need-to-know basis.
Most operatives do not know who they are working for. There are over
86,000 of them in this country. Now you divide that by 50 and see
what you come up with. This place is crawling with Big Brother.
KGB never had that many functioning operatives in high levels as we
do in this country. "1984", George Orwell's book, really was a grim
prophecy that has come true.
Most people are saying,
"We've got to stop this New World Order from
Its already here. We're in it.
Now let's understand who the players are, and some of their tools.
Mind control, whether it be trauma-based mind control to develop a
totally robotic human being, is one type. Fortunately, it requires a
great deal of horrible trauma that somebody's got to put on to these
people. And it requires something more that just pushing a button or
There is equipment available now that we cannot protect
ourselves from. And the amazing part about this equipment is that it
is available to everyone in this room. I don't quite understand the
philosophy about making pain-field generators and another device
called an MDD1, which uses a dual-coil electromagnetic pulse system,
which affects our cerebral cortex - stops logical thought.
couldn't balance your checkbook if one of these things was turned on
nor could you think to turn it off. Any more than Cathy O'Brien
could have thought to have walked away from her victimization.
This is not the 'beaten wife syndrome'. This has nothing to do with
an economic situation. This has something to do with robotic mind
There are tons and tons of documents... "Trance Formation of
America" is a book, our book, an autobiography, Cathy's
autobiography, I wrote the first four or five chapters, to give you
a briefing. But what this book contains is her life - that which we
can validate. When this book was printed we had over 27,000
documents. 27,000 documents fit into 5 filing cabinets. We now have
over 3 tons of paperwork!
General Russell Bowen, who was one of the originators, and he's set
up Operation Watchtower, the CIA's drug operation - by the way, how
many of you believe that the Central Intelligence Agency is the
world's largest drug dealer? (Mark raises his hand in the
Okay... So that makes our country the largest drug
dealer on the face of the Earth. And I resent this. I know now why
the intelligence community did not want me for an officer. I know
now why I was not privy to some of the stuff that I am now
unfortunately very privy to. Because I think I'd have blown the
whistle on them. There's a lot of whistleblowers out here now.
I'm not into this. I was hired because I could keep secrets. This is
against my programming. But I can assure you of this - it would be
against God and everything that I am if I didn't get up here and
talk and present Cathy O'Brien so that she can present her story.
Cathy and I are really humbled by the number of people that we see
who would have done the same thing. And people come up and say,
man, we really appreciate what you are doing". And I say, "Well
thank you. I appreciate hearing that".
I even appreciate it when I
hear people say,
"This is hard to believe. I'm going to look at this
book and I'm going to look at these documents".
I tell them,
"Please, please do this".
Look in the back of our book
and you'll get a thumbnail sketch of some books that you can get
that are written by doctors, intelligence officers and a number of
other concerned professionals who present the elements of what Cathy
This is good news because I wouldn't have one ounce of credibility
as far as MKULTRA goes if this didn't come out, and I couldn't even
tell you the codename. In 1977, the 95th US Congress met to address
an issue that a Dr. Ewen Cameron - the founder of the
Psychiatric Association (APA), the lobby group in Washington that
controls what doctors do for our heads when we run into trouble...
Psychiatry is the youngest of all the healing arts and it is the
most primitive of them all. The information that therapists are
provided with by their lobby has been carefully screened.
Information on rehabilitating victims of mind control is not only
scarce but it has required some incredible efforts by some brave
individuals who wound up getting sued because they could not violate
the civil rights of the individual that they were treating.
The situation with Cathy and I was very different. I wasn't a
doctor. I wasn't a psychiatrist. I had no insurance or practice or
license to protect. So I kept Cathy from reading newspapers. You
see, when I rescued her on February 8th 1988, she didn't know her
name, how old she was or where she'd been.
I'd seen this with people
involved in espionage and I immediately thought that Cathy had been
an information courier, even though she was dressed like a
prostitute, walked like a prostitute and talked like someone who was
leading a Christian choir somewhere. It was such a conflict, I
couldn't quite grasp this contrast.
Until I was given a great deal
of information from some people involved in intelligence in this
country and abroad. I was fed a treatment modality that would
ultimately lead to putting Cathy O'Brien free again for the second
time in her life. The first time was when she was born and it
stopped right there!
Cathy O'Brien had been a victim of the most horrendous abuse system
known to man. The type of mind control that Adolf Hitler thought
that he could use on certain individuals to put them in positions of
extraordinary power whilst having invisible strings - a master
puppeteer to their minds and what they said. I don't know if we have
politicians like that now or not.
Because it seems like you don't
have to put them under mind control, they'll do anything that
corrupt members of Congress persuade them to do. I've known several
corrupt congressmen that didn't have to be blackmailed with sex,
that didn't have to be enticed with money, or drugs. They just
simply were corrupt.
You see, a sociopath is a very outgoing individual. Leaders.
Unfortunately, sociopaths have no conscience, no expression of soul.
They do not relate to anyone else's pain except that it gives them
MKULTRA was designed and had many sub-projects for developing the
perfect soldier, the perfect espionage agent, things that I was told
would cover an area of our national security that no soldier and no
diplomat could possibly cover.
No one told me that we were using
them as drug mules and prostitutes. No one told me that we were
using them for breeders so that children could be provided for
sheikhs, world leaders. No one told me that we were using them for
money laundering operations.
When I rescued Cathy and her daughter it took me a year to put Cathy
back together literally, with a whole lot of help, and a whole lot
of love. Other therapists don't have that latitude. They can't love
their patients. They can't keep them away from telephones,
newspapers and TVs. And they wind up getting contaminated because
they are highly suggestible.
They see an ad for fried chicken, they can smell it. Now, I dreamed
as an ad-man to be able to produce ads like that. I worked real hard
just to get somebody to go, "Nice ad". But nobody ever drooled on
any pages that I ever put out. And I used subliminal. I used a form
of neurolinguistics. Those of you who don't know about neuro-linguistic
programming should learn.
Tony Robbins is an advocate of
programming and he teaches it. Matter of fact, he taught George Bush
and he taught Bill Clinton. And there's nothing wrong with Tony
Robbins, he's not a bad guy. He's a smart businessman. And any smart
businessman these days knows the value of neurolinguistics - or the
language of the unconscious. To me it's the subconscious.
The language of the subconscious provided many of the codes, keys
and triggers to unlock all the rest of the doors in Cathy's mind
that pertained specifically to her abuse. It gave me information
like bank account numbers first. And by the way I am nothing more
than a hacker. And instead of going around and looting the bank
accounts and having to hide for the rest of my natural life in
luxury, I took them to the FBI. Not because I knew they were clean
or dirty, it's because I didn't want them to kill me over it.
I provided everything that's in this book over a period of three and
a half years to every state federal and local law enforcement agency
that was directly involved with this case. And the names of over a
thousand agencies and people are in this book.
I wanted to get this before Congress, like happened in the 95th US
Congress in 1977, when the wife of a Canadian cabinet member had
gone in to a mental hospital in Montreal, where Dr. Ewen Cameron was
practicing, and she came out as a vegetable. The cabinet member was
incensed on trying to find out what had happened to his wife.
put her through horrific electroshock tortures and every other
conceivable torture - drugs, hypnosis. Unfortunately, many, many
others were involved in Dr. Ewen Cameron's experiments. Of those
recovered ones, I'm in touch with two and these people are highly
functional and one of them will be doing the same thing we are in
the very near future.
I don't know of any in this country that have recovered to the point
that Cathy O'Brien has because no doctor can dedicate 16-18 hours of
every day, day in, day out, seven days a week, and violate every
civil right that they've got, and get away with it legally. Nor can
they have their patients legally go into the safe of their handler
and pull out their diaries.
By the way, in one of the diaries it's got Bill Clinton's home phone
number, it's got Dick Thornburgh on a coke deal for $20,000, and the
list goes on.
This is a small group, gang. If you consider the population of the
United States, it's so fractional - these bad guys that are in
control of all of us - that we wonder what on Earth could they be
doing? How does Clinton survive all of these attacks against him?
How did George Bush survive the attacks against him? Well he didn't.
He went out of office. But I don't believe anything changed. I
believe the guy that he had for his replacement did exactly what he
wanted him to do. Like start out with NAFTA and GATT. We are, as
David Icke so eloquently said, a
There are ways to change that. And there are a number of people who
are making some very positive efforts in that direction. But that's
their job. My job and Cathy's job is to stand before groups like
you, very nervous, because we want to make sure that the information
will excite you enough to go out and talk about it, or go out and
investigate it and talk about it some more.
We attempt to get our
books out by the case. And they get real cheap when you buy a case
of them. One box of 36 books - $232. And we deliver them.
This book is information. It is truth. And it is truth that will set
I am absolutely intent on the idea that the information contained in
this book will indeed reach the eyes of those who can see. And the
information on this video will reach the ears and eyes of those who
can hear and see truth, so that they will get out and wonder why
Sirhan Sirhan had the same psychiatrist - Jolyon West
Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh.
Now, this guy's real popular. He's right down here at UCLA. He was
also the first person to call me on my unlisted, unpublished, fake
name telephone, out in the boonies, outside Anchorage, Alaska, after
I had rescued Cathy and her daughter.
And a woman by the name of
Margaret Singer, who may be a friend of one or two of you out there,
but I don't miss a chance to bring out the fact that she was the one
that sent another character in on us up there.
I wasn't connected well enough to be told not to do anything on my
own, and at the time I was absolutely out of mind from hearing this
stuff. I was suffering from what is known as post-traumatic stress
disorder. I was shell-shocked from hearing what Cathy and Kelly were
And then I was showing this information to members of
the intelligence community and members of other branches of federal
law enforcement who validated it for me... Thank you.
apologize to everybody who buys our book and reads it. Because I
tried to make my portion of it informative enough to where it
wouldn't hurt you. And I told Cathy that she had to include enough
detail in the book such as anatomical details of her alleged abusers
so that we could get them into court and make them drop their pants.
That kind of leads me into the presenter for the second oldest
profession - now who was first? It's a long debate in the
intelligence community whether prostitutes or spies came first.
At this point I would like to introduce Cathy O'Brien. The person
who rescued my spirituality. I wasn't a bad guy but I needed that
extra push, and I'm mighty proud to have been with her for over
eight years now.
Cathy O'Brien: I want to thank each and every one of you for coming out here
tonight, to arm yourselves with knowledge about a tool that's being
covertly used to usher in what Adolf Hitler and George Bush term New
World Order... That is, mind control.
I've enjoyed talking with quite a few of you earlier this evening,
pertaining to how mind control has affected some of you or some of
your loved ones. Mind control is very prevalent in this country and
around the world.
These criminals that are in control of our country operate on the
philosophy that secret knowledge equals power. Many government
secrets and personal reputations were staked on the belief that I
could not be deprogrammed to remember those things that I was
supposed to forget. They were wrong.
For, as intelligent as these
perpetrators are, they are limited in their thinking by their own
immorality. They don't have wisdom. They don't think deep. And they
never consider the strength of the human spirit.
They never considered what would happen when a good man like
Phillips gained knowledge of their secrets and used them to restore
a mind, rather than control one.
I know that I am extremely fortunate to have survived my
CIA, MKULTRA, White House, Pentagon-level trauma-based mind control
victimization. Now that I'm in control of my own mind, and
ultimately my free will, I'm telling. I'm telling everything that I
witnessed and saw and heard and photographically recorded behind the
scenes of this New World Order effort. By telling their secrets,
their power is eroding.
I also speak out to give voice to the many, many mind control
victims and survivors out there who can't think to speak out and
tell what they know and what they've endured. I speak out for the
sake of my daughter, Kelly, who is now 16 years old and is a
political prisoner in the custody of the state of Tennessee, where
she is being denied any rehabilitation, due to the political
affluence of her abusers.
She is counting on Mark and I to get this
word out on her behalf.
For Kelly's sake and for your sake, Mark and I have gone to great
lengths with the facts and the truths that are listed in our book,
Trance Formation of America. Trance Formation of America is
self-published - uncensored - so that you can have the facts that
you have a right to know and a need to know.
These truths have been
covered up and kept from us for a long time under a blanket of
so-called national security. This is the same blanket of national
security that has prevented us from obtaining justice despite the
extensive evidences and documentation we have.
We have over 27,000
documents and evidences: government insider testimony, medical
records, more than enough evidence for any legal procedure in this
country, including congressional. But this blanket of national
security has stopped us from obtaining justice.
It's time for truth to prevail. It's time that these truths were
brought to light for the sake of humanity as we know it.
I'd like to begin by defining mind control, by my experience.
I realize that my experience was extreme - that the extensive,
total robotic, absolute mind control I endured is more limited than
the kind of mind control that is proliferating in society. Mind
control has kind of a sliding scale, where you've got the total
robotic mind control on one side and you've got mind control that is
proliferating such as in occultism in this country, or Global
Education 2000, where children are losing their freedom of thought
and their ability to critically analyze.
There are so many different
aspects of society that are affected by mind control in varying
degrees. It's imperative that this information gets out and as I
explain my victimization, it certainly can be applied to all
different facets of mind control and mind manipulation. And as Mark
and I have heard so many, many times from people who have read the
book and who have heard us speak out, that this is a thread that is
tying things together.
All of a sudden this whole New World Order is
making sense. The erosion of constitutional values, the erosion of
morality in this country, all of a sudden it begins to make sense
when we learn about mind control.
I was born in 1957, in Muskegon, Michigan, to a multi-generational
incest-based family. This means my father was sexually abused as a
child, my mother was sexually abused as a child, and they were
sexually abusing me. My father sexually abused me as far back as I
can remember. And I've often heard him state that he began
substituting his penis for my mother's nipple while I was still an
I tell you this so you can understand that my sexuality was confused
at infancy. It was put into an area of my brain that's much like
survival, like eating and drinking would be. I tell you these facts
so that you can be better armed and understand what's happening in
society, and name names.
Mark and I name names in our book. Not so
that I can say that I was in the White House with so and so, I mean
I miss the whole glamour part. But this is so you know who the
problem is and where these problems lie.
The sexual abuse that I was enduring was so horrific that I
developed dissociative identity disorder. This used to be termed
multiple personality disorder and I'm so glad they've changed it to
dissociative identity disorder because it really more aptly
describes the compartmentalization that occurs when a person endures
trauma that is literally too horrible to comprehend.
Even though I
couldn't understand that what my father was doing was morally wrong,
the pain and the suffocation of his abuse was so extensive that I
developed dissociative identity disorder. It certainly was
incomprehensible - there was no place for it in my mind to deal
with such horror.
Therefore, I developed a compartment in my brain,
a little area behind amnesic barriers that was actually the neuron
pathways shutting down in my brain in order to compartmentalize the
memory of abuse so that the rest of my mind could function normally,
as though nothing had happened.
So if I'd seen my father at the dinner table, I didn't remember
sexual abuse, but as soon as he unzipped his pants, the part of me,
the part in my brain that knew how to deal with that abuse, the
neuron pathways actually physically opened up so that that part of
my mind could deal with my father again and again and again as
I certainly had a lot of experiences within that compartment
that dealt with my father's abuse, but I did not have a full range
of perceptions, I had a very limited perception, a very limited
view. Therefore, I'm so glad it's not termed 'personality' anymore.
I developed another compartment within my brain to deal with my
mother's abuse. Her abuse was primarily psychological. She suffered
from dissociative identity disorder herself and I don't hold her
accountable for her actions the way that I do my father who was
fully aware of what he was doing.
My mother, in spite of her
inability to control herself, destroyed any remnants of self-esteem
that I might have developed. And her abuse was so horrific that I
developed another compartment in my brain just to deal with my
I developed another compartment to deal with the child pornography
that my father was subjecting me to. He was earning his living as a
worm-digger on a sixth grade education and supplemented the family
income with child pornography that was being distributed through the
local Michigan Mafia pornography ring.
At that time, there was a criminal faction of our government that
was interested in targeting children such as myself for mind
control, because this compartmentalization of memory was something
that they deemed ideal for keeping government secrets.
After all, if
I couldn't think to remember, how could I tell about it?
Additionally, people who suffer from dissociative identity disorder
develop a photographic memory behind those amnesic barriers because
the brain has a defense mechanism that when trauma occurs it
photographically records events surrounding trauma.
An example of
this would be that many of you who are old enough to remember when
John F. Kennedy was assassinated, most people know exactly where
they were and what they were doing. This was an event that
traumatized the nation and this exemplifies how the mind
photographically records events surrounding trauma.
So behind these amnesic barriers, I had a photographic memory which
the government deemed ideal for programming. That way I could
deliver messages to and from government leaders, or in my case also
drug lords who were involved in funding the black budget and funding
the New World Order controls.
They were interested in programming me
so that I would deliver the messages verbatim. When I delivered
messages, I delivered exactly what I was told, using the voice
inflections of my abusers, with no conscious comprehension of what I
was even saying. I was just a tape recorder, parroting out exactly
what I had been told.
Another aspect that the government was interested in was that as a
dissociative identity disorder person, I had no concept of time,
because I was going from compartment to compartment to compartment
in my brain with no memory of what had happened before.
had no ability to keep track of time and the concept of it was just
absolutely impossible. If I didn't know what I was doing earlier, I
wouldn't know to be tired while I was overdoing something else.
Therefore, a person who suffers from dissociative identity disorder
has extensive physical endurance - just superhuman strength and
ability to keep going and going and going.
Dissociative identity disorder persons also develop a 44 time visual
acuity. Very often that's why you see them wide-eyed, with the
whites around their eyes, because they are actually taking in more
of their surroundings than the average person, 44 times more detail
than the average person sees. That certainly makes them perfect
marksmen for mercenary operations or for intelligence.
I was a 'chosen one' or a prime candidate for mind control because
of the sexual abuse that I had endured. My sexuality had been
enhanced, therefore I was used as a sex slave and also delivered
messages to and from these government leaders.
At that time, because
this criminal faction of our government was so interested in dissociative identity disorder persons, they knew that any child who
was subjected to child pornography had to have endured trauma so
horrible that they had to be suffering from that disorder.
Therefore, this criminal faction of our government sanctioned this
child pornography ring, so that they could identify and target
children such as myself for the project. At that time, the local
Michigan Mafia politician who was protecting this pornography ring
was a guy named Gerald Ford.
This is the same Gerald Ford that went
on to become the first unelected President of the United States.
I never perceived his political affluence, I only perceived him as
another abuser like my father, because Gerald Ford also sexually
abused me as a child and sexually abused me right on through my mind
control victimization until Mark rescued my daughter Kelly and I in
Gerald Ford is not a pedophile per se, he is what I refer to
as trysexual - he'll try anything, any age, anybody, anytime,
anywhere, just as long as he had control, because he had a
perversion of power in addition to his interest in mind control.
It was Gerald Ford who came up to our house and explained to my
father how to raise me in the project according to government
specifications. My father had been caught sending this child
pornography through the US mail and therefore he was approached and
told that if he sold me into that project, he would gain immunity
My father remains free from prosecution to date,
for so-called "reasons of national security". My father thought it
was just absolutely wonderful and immediately sold me into the
project. He felt like the government condoned child abuse. So did I.
My father went on to have five more children to raise in the
project, so there were seven of us in all. The rest are still
Once my father agreed to sell me into the project I was taken
routinely to Mackinac Island, Michigan, which is a political retreat
where the Michigan governors mansion is located. It was a Bohemian
Grove of sorts, where the politicians met and discussed New World
Order controls and mind control. Mind control of the masses... Mind
control in the school systems... How to use occultism as a trauma
One of my sexual abusers at that time was the Prime Minister of
Canada, Pierre Trudeau. Pierre Trudeau is a professed Jesuit. Now
the Jesuits are an intelligence arm of
the Catholic Vatican. There
is a criminal faction within these Jesuits.
I am certainly not
saying all Catholics are bad, nor am I saying all CIA's bad, nor all
politicians. There is good and bad in everything. But, nevertheless,
Pierre Trudeau represented this criminal faction of the Catholic
Jesuits who believed in mind control of the masses, because they
wanted to be the One World Church in the New World Order.
that was being brought in through the Church was funding New World
Another sexual abuser of mine was, then Michigan Senator, and later
US Congressman, Guy Vander Jagt. This is the same Guy Vander Jagt
that went on to head the Republican National Committee which put
George Bush into the office of President.
It was at Mackinac Island, Michigan, when I was thirteen years old
that I was dedicated to the Senator who had become my owner in this
mind control project.
That is US Senator, Robert C. Byrd. Senator
Byrd is a Democrat from West Virginia, and again you'll notice as I
reveal any names that this doesn't have anything to do with party
lines - Democrats and Republicans both are involved, because it is
not about party lines, it is about who's for a New World Order and
Nevertheless, Senator Byrd has been in office, he's still
in office today, he's been head of our Senate Appropriations
Committee, which means he held the purse strings of our country. He
decided where money would be spent.
And I know, from having
witnessed and experienced and saw so much behind the scenes, that
Senator Byrd was appropriating money in directions that would allow
for New World Order controls.
Not only that, but my father, for having sold me into this project,
was granted a lucrative military contract for making camshafts for
military automobiles and all. My father became extremely wealthy on
a sixth grade education.
Senator Byrd, as my owner, would decide where I should go, when,
what operations I would be forced to carry out during the
Reagan-Bush administration, what places I should be taken to
specifically for mind control programming... Senator Byrd directed
all of my activities.
Also around that time, I had made my First Communion, in Muskegon
St. Francis of Assisi Church. Having made my First Communion, I also
endured an extra ritual after that that was referred to as the "rite
to remain silent".
This involved Congressman Vander Jagt and the
head of our church at that time, a Father Don. They subjected me to
an occult blood ritual. This was so horrific, this reversal of the
Catholic Mass, it confused my mind because when a person is
operating on a subconscious level they are so traumatized that
consciously there's no place for what they are enduring.
subconscious mind has no ability to discern and to question and
reason the same way that the conscious mind does. And this reversal
of the Catholic Mass into occultism just made it all seem to run
together in my mind.
It was so absolutely horrible that my mind
readily accepted the mind manipulation that I endured afterwards - a hypnotic language, the neurolinguistic programming,
programming, that actually changed the way that my brain was
You know that part of my brain that I said would open up to deal
with my father's abuse again and again? They changed that, so that
they decided when, where and how that particular compartment in my
brain would be opened and accessed.
They replaced the triggering
mechanism with hypnotic codes, keys and triggers, hand signals,
there's also phone tones that can open those neuron pathways and
give access to the compartmentalized memories as well.
With this rite to remain silent, I also had a silence in my head
after that, because up until that time I heard my own voice arguing
back and forth, back and forth, with all these different perceptions
from the different compartments in order that I could formulate some
kind of a decision about things.
I remember before the rite to
remain silent that I had some free thoughts of my own and I had
hoped for a place in the world where people didn't abuse each other.
I had hoped to have ten children that I knew would be at least ten
children in this world that weren't abused. I had hoped for those
things, but with the rite to remain silent I lost my capacity, my
ability for free-will thinking.
I lost my ability to even hope
anymore. I lost all free will entirely. This rite to remain silent
silenced this argument that always went on in my head and instead
all I ever heard from that point on was the voices of my abusers
directing me, telling me exactly what it was that I was supposed to
do. I could have only robotically followed those instructions and
carried them out.
By the time I was ready for high school, Senator Byrd ordered that I
be sent to Muskegon Catholic Central High School. At that time there
was an enormous emergence of information that Catholics had long
since learned the effects of trauma on the human mind.
learned it and kept records of it for so many years from such things
as the Spanish Inquisition and other aspects where people who didn't
follow the belief systems were wiped out. The Crusaders had also
recorded a lot of information pertaining to trauma on the human
This information was being merged with the Hitler/Himmler
research that the CIA had taken and had been advancing on. The
combination of the merging of the information was very powerful.
Muskegon Catholic Central was a place where this information was
being brought together.
It was at Catholic Central that the very
basis, the very groundwork for Global Education 2000 was being
implemented. There are many different names for the program which is
being implemented in our school systems, that is being forced on our
children by the federal government.
Global Education 2000 was designed to increase our children's
learning capacity while decreasing their ability to critically
analyze. That way they would just readily accept whatever they were
told without any question and just take all the information in.
At Catholic Central I got straight A's, I did really good in school
because I was photographically recording everything in class. I
endured occult ritual in the school chapel, as did numerous other
students in the school... I certainly wasn't the only one.
matter of fact, by that time I really thought that the whole world
was involved in this kind of abuse. By then, my whole environment
was saturated with it. This occultism, this trauma, created the
photographic recording of all that I learned in school. Of course I
had no ability to critically analyze or to creatively use it in any
way, but the information was sure in there.
It was while I was at Catholic Central that
Gerald Ford went into
the office of President. I had been conditioned by that time to
believe that I had no place to run and no place to hide. This is a
phrase that is used to lock in mind control victims of varying
levels, that there is no place to run, no place to hide, we're
watching you. I certainly felt like I had no place to run and no
place to hide.
Who would I turn to? I couldn't turn to my parents. I
couldn't turn to my church. I couldn't turn to my school. I couldn't
turn to the local politicians. And now I couldn't even turn to the
President of the United States!
I truly felt locked in. Which was exactly what they wanted for total
control of my mind.
Of course, since then I have learned otherwise. And Mark wisely
taught me, while I was in the deprogramming process, that I did have
a place to run... Right at them. And I had no need to hide...
Obviously, they do, by the way. They are covering up all their acts
with the national security blanket.
After I graduated from high school, Senator Byrd ordered that I be
moved to Nashville, Tennessee. Nashville, Tennessee was heavily
involved in mind control at that time through the country music
industry, and above all, the proliferation of CIA cocaine operations
within the country music industry were already in full swing. The
political corruption in Tennessee was just all the way to the top.
The country music industry provided a cover for mind control slaves
like myself to be taken around the country to the various places
designated, and also to distribute and deliver the large quantities
of CIA cocaine that was coming in to the country.
It is my experience that the CIA's so-called "war on drugs" is no
more than the CIA eliminating their competition as they take over
the drug industry worldwide. They took their 'war on drugs' to our
street corners and turned our streets into a blood bath.
The country music industry provided the cover for distributing the
cocaine, so Senator Byrd wanted me to be within the country music
industry. Besides that, he fancied himself an entertainer of sorts
and he fiddled on the Grand Ole Opry from time to time.
When I was
first sent to Nashville, he was playing on the Opry that night and
he had a musician behind him, a guy named Wayne Cox. Wayne Cox later
told me that playing music behind Senator Byrd wasn't the only way
that he backed him, but that he backed him politically as well.
After the Opry that night I endured an occult ritual again...
Occultism is oftentimes used as a trauma base for mind control. Who
can comprehend that kind of a trauma? Blood rituals, absolutely
horrible, and it is a perfect trauma base for mind control, for the
compartmentalization of memory.
I witnessed Wayne Cox murder a railroad bum down at Nashville's
Union Station. It was abandoned at that time and there were bums
around, and he shot him right between the eyes and cut off both of
his hands, which was Cox's MO for murder.
After this blood ritual, I was programmed that Wayne Cox would be my
first handler in MKULTRA mind control. As my handler, Wayne Cox
would follow Senator Byrd's directions and instructions.
he would be subjecting me to more trauma - sufficient to satisfy
the numerous compartments that Senator Byrd wanted developed in my
brain for mind control programming, so that I could carry out
various operations during the Reagan-Bush administration.
I endured numerous occult rituals after that. Wayne Cox at that time
was working directly under the direction of Louisiana Senator J.
Bennett Johnston and he took me to his home town in Chatham,
Louisiana. J. Bennett Johnston, at that time, was heavily involved
in mind control operations because he was running a band of
mercenaries out of Louisiana.
At that time this band of mercenaries
were going in and out of South America. There were a lot of arms
deals going on. And most importantly, when the aeroplanes would fly
these guys down to South America, they would come back full of
cocaine, which was being distributed on our streets.
Wayne Cox was
triggering these mercenaries into operation by showing them a
severed hand from another one of his victims, which re-traumatized
them into the occult ritual that they had already endured and
accessed a specific compartment of their brain. And he told them
that J. Bennett Johnston wanted them to "give him a hand". He would
then give them instructions and the guys would follow them through.
At that time, it was 1978, and it was determined that I had endured
sufficient trauma to carry out my first trial run operation. An
enormous quantity of cocaine had been flown in on one of these
operations and I was to deliver it into the neighboring state of
Arkansas. By that time, Bill Clinton's drug operation was in full
swing. He was governor of Arkansas.
I delivered this cocaine to a remote airport on Ouachita Forest,
which I have since identified as Mena Airport. I also delivered a
little packet of information and a small quantity of cocaine, a
personal stash from J. Bennett Johnston to Bill Clinton. I delivered
it to Bill Clinton and he cut out two lines of the coke, and he did
That certainly wasn't the only time I saw
Bill Clinton using
My sexual experience with Bill Clinton was extremely limited, in
spite of the fact that I was a sex slave. It was my experience that
Bill Clinton is bisexual, leaning far more towards a homosexual, and
all I have ever seen him involved in is homosexual activity with
very limited experience with him myself.
Whereas, my experience was
much more prevalent with
Hillary Clinton because Hillary is also
bisexual, leaning more towards a homosexual. It was she who accessed
my sex programming to fulfill her perversions.
Around this same time, J. Bennett Johnston subjected me to some
other mind manipulation that involved, instead of an occult theme,
an alien theme.
Now these guys who were manipulating my mind and
programming me for mind control purposes, and these criminals in
control of our country as well, claimed to be gods, demons and
aliens in order that I feel totally helpless, in order that I felt
they were beyond my realm to affect. It certainly worked at that
J. Bennett Johnston told me that he was an alien. He told me
that he'd been part of
the Philadelphia Experiment, and when the
ship disappeared it came back a spaceship.
This is in keeping with an air/water mirror theme that
quite frequently. A reversal. Because, again, the subconscious mind
doesn't have any reasoning capacity.
J. Bennett Johnston then showed me, in his office at
Dynamics, a then top secret stealth. Here was this triangular
stealth that wasn't in any of the school books, wasn't being talked
about anywhere, wasn't out in the newspapers or anything else, it
was being withheld, it was still a top secret weapon system.
looked like a spaceship to me. I'd never seen anything like that.
And everything J. Bennett Johnston was doing and was involved in was
certainly alien to me. So it was easy for me to accept the idea that
what was happening was in fact being perpetrated by aliens.
I'm not saying that there's no such thing as
aliens... That would be
foolish of me. But what I am saying is that it was my experience
that these were people claiming to be aliens.
If there is a reality out there pertaining to any alien influence,
we need to sort out the government misinformation and disinformation
and mind manipulation techniques that they are using. I know for a
fact that the plan is to make all of us feel totally helpless, that
what's happening is beyond our realm to affect because we've been
taken over by aliens, that our Independence Day is dawning. So,
beware of that.
Understand that those criminals have been keeping information and
technology from us under the blanket of national security. They are
25 years ahead of us at least technologically. Can you imagine what
they've got now? What's happened that you are aware of in the last
Microwave ovens, we've got
computerization, and they've
had access to all of that to continue their own advancements. They
are way ahead. So when they say, "It's aliens, it's aliens", and
they show us some incredible technology, don't fall into the trap of
feeling totally helpless, that this is beyond our realm to affect.
Superstition begins where knowledge leaves off, and they have been
keeping knowledge from us for a long time. People have all kinds of
belief systems and I'm sure each one of you has various and
different belief systems as well.
Regardless of what your belief
system is, it is imperative that you know that these criminals are
people. They are within our realm to affect. They need to be held
accountable for their actions and their crimes against humanity.
It was 1980 when my daughter Kelly was born. She was born directly
into the MKULTRA mind control project, on a much higher level, a
much more sophisticated technological level than I was subjected to.
In addition to trauma, she was subjected to harmonic mind control
programming on NASA installations, literally since birth, before her
brain even had a chance to form.
As soon as Kelly was born, Senator Byrd figured I'd been
enough by that time and ordered that we be transferred back to
Nashville Tennessee, to carry out operations during the Reagan
administration. But being within the country music industry, we had
a second handler, his name was Alex Houston.
Alex Houston is a
ventriloquist, stage hypnotist in the country music industry. Above
all, he carries out criminal covert CIA operations that fund the
black budget, and this certainly included bringing in large
quantities of cocaine and distributing them throughout the United
States and Canada.
He was working at that time and provided a cover for me to be taken
throughout the United States, Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean for
these criminal covert operations. As my handler, he took me to
various military and NASA installations for mind control
programming, for specific operations that I was forced to
These operations I won't have time to get into
tonight, but are detailed in our book Trance Formation of America.
And they involve such leaders as the president of Mexico at that
time, De la Madrid, and ex-president Salinas.
It was my experience that, in 1984... There is a CIA trauma base,
near-death trauma center, that is located in Lampe, Missouri. It is
called the Swiss Villa Amphitheater. They bring certain involved
country music acts in to bring large quantities of cocaine or bring
the cocaine out for distribution.
Because Lampe, Missouri is just
across the Arkansas line and is very much a part of Bill Clinton's
cocaine operation. And it was in full swing at that time.
It's also interesting to note that this Lampe, Missouri operation is
where the country music industry was more conveniently relocated,
you know, right there in Branson so that it would be closer to
Clinton's cocaine operations.
Lampe, Missouri was also the place where I heard George Bush and
Bill Clinton talking.
From the point of view I had, they certainly
were friends, they didn't recognize any party lines between them.
That's a smoke and mirrors illusion for the public. It's not
something they adhere to because they had exactly the same agenda,
and that was for bringing in
this New World Order.
I heard George Bush, at that time, talking to Bill Clinton, and I've
since photographically recorded it and wrote it verbatim in our
book. That when the American public became disillusioned with the
Republicans leading them into the New World Order, that Bill Clinton
as a Democrat was going to be put into the office of President.
was decided in 1984. Actually, I'd heard about it even prior to
that. But as of 1984, they were already discussing it as an absolute
It was also discussed, in the groundwork for NAFTA, that by the time
George Bush went into the office of President, Salinas was going to
become the president of Mexico, and they together were going to be
bringing in NAFTA, which was the beginning of New World Order
I was forced to participate in the criminal groundwork for NAFTA,
the opening of the Juarez Mexican border to free trade - free trade
of drugs, the free trade our nation's children. It's absolutely
appalling, the criminal roots of NAFTA. Again, this is detailed in
But, it's interesting to note that these political moves had already
been decided way back then. And, as I deprogrammed, it was really
something to me to find out that people didn't know about this
stuff. It was so obvious to me, I didn't realize that people were
unaware and had bought into some kind of smoke and mirrors illusions
of what was going on and never thought to look behind the scenes at
what was going on.
I understand that good people don't think that way. They don't have
criminal minds. They don't think to look for that kind of criminal
activity. Just like these guys are limited in their thinking by
immorality, good people are blinded from that kind of criminal
activity, until their eyes are opened to truth.
The people that were involved in this criminal activity that was
going on at that time were following directions from
(George W. Bush's father). I don't purport to know it all. I don't
purport to know that George Bush is at the very top of all this. But
he is as high up as I knew.
It was my experience that Ronald Reagan answered to George Bush. Not
robotically, not under mind control, but willingly because George
Bush was respected for what he knew about bringing in the New World
Consider his past... George Bush first began with
Nations. Then he went on to head our CIA. Then he ran our country
through three administrations that I'm aware of: the Reagan
administration, his administration and the Clinton administration,
because Reagan and Clinton both answered to him.
Mexican President De la Madrid answered to him, and knew that Salinas was coming into
power, and Salinas had more influence in Mexico at that time than De
la Madrid, as far as my experience was concerned. Also, Saudi
Arabian King Fahd followed orders from George Bush.
As did the Prime
Minister of Canada, Brian Mulroney.
In 1983, I heard Ronald Reagan and Brian Mulroney discussing the New
World Order. Senator Byrd had acted in the capacity of a pimp and
prostituted me to Reagan and I was present at this White House
cocktail party. Now Ronald Reagan certainly provided a wonderful
smoke and mirrors illusion for all of us.
For those of you who don't
want to believe that he's involved in all of this... He told you he
is an actor. And he did a real good job of it for a long time. That
was his role. That's what he was supposed to do.
Nevertheless, I heard Ronald Reagan telling Brian Mulroney that he
believed the only way to world peace was through mind control of the
I know from experience that there's no peace of mind under mind
control. And I wonder at a world peace where people don't have peace
The ramifications of mind control are far-reaching. I also know that
under mind control there's no free thought. Without free thought
there's no free will. Without God-given free will there's no soul
What kind of a world peace can we have without any free will or soul
expression - without any spirituality?
Mind control needs to be exposed in order that people maintain their
freedom of thought... In order that people maintain their free will,
and have that spiritual expression. Because when people have soul
and spirituality, they're going to be acting in a capacity of love
anyway. That is where world peace is! Not in mind control...
By 1988, I had been forced to participate in numerous operations
against my will. All of which I certainly would never have done. I
guess if I'd had any part of me that was willing to do anything like
that, mind control would not have been necessary.
I'm appalled at what I was forced to participate in, but I am
relieved that this information is getting out, that people are
passing the book hand to hand so that hand in hand we can take back
This information is information that you have a right
to know, and a need to know, and their controlled media are not
going to suppress truth... Truth prevails.
In 1988, Mark rescued my daughter Kelly and I. We couldn't think to
escape. I couldn't think to save my daughter any more than I could
think to save myself, and all those childhood hopes and dreams
certainly hadn't come to fruition.
When Mark rescued Kelly and I, we
didn't have any ability to hope for good people. We didn't know they
existed. We didn't have a capacity to trust anyone that wasn't
within our realm of experience. I couldn't think to reason that Mark
was a good guy but I had seen him with his animals and we had this
extra sense developed... We sensed things very strongly.
when you consider that we use like 10% of our brain, we'd been
blasted into other parts of our brain which were real perceptive on
what's considered, I suppose, psychic levels by some definition. We
had a sense for things, kind of like the animals did.
And we noticed
that the animals loved Mark. He had these three raccoons that he'd
rescued, and they all loved him, and they hugged him and wrapped
their arms around his neck and they patted on his face, and he
kissed them. And you know, that was really a neat thing for us to
see, because we had only seen our animals abused.
We had lived on a
farm and we had dogs and cats and horses and cows and guineas and
chickens and all kinds of animals, all of which Alex Houston
tortured or killed to keep us in line. If we didn't do this, this
would happen to our pet. And we loved our animals.
Please bear this in mind, that people who abuse children oftentimes
abuse animals. If you see someone abusing an animal, keep your eyes
open, look further, make sure those kids are safe. I've never seen
an exception to this rule. Not that there's not one out there
So, it was very telling to us that these animals loved Mark.
Additionally, when he came in and rescued us, we were under the gun
of the CIA... Everything was very curious to say the least. I was 30
years old. I was supposed to be killed, as most mind controlled
slaves are at the age of 30.
Besides, I was considered too old for
sex by that time. So, I was supposed to be wiped out. Mark came in
and rescued me from certain death and rescued my daughter from a
fate much worse than death, and took the time to rescue our animals.
He packed up all those cows and horses and guineas and chickens and
loaded them up on these different trailers and brought them to
safety as well.
This had a profound impact on Kelly and I. We certainly developed an
ability to trust right there and then.
Mark took us to the safety and serenity of Alaska. Since we were
safe for the first time in our lives, experiencing love for the
first time in our lives, memories of our past began flashing on our
As these memories flashed and I started to remember
what had happened to me and to my daughter, particularly during the
Reagan-Bush administration, I became enraged. I was enraged at what
my daughter had been through, the tortures I had endured and what
the plan was for humanity as a whole.
I'd have been blinded by that
rage, immobilized by that rage, if it weren't for Mark's wisdom in
telling me that the best revenge is total recovery. Because through
total recovery, by photographically recording all of those events, I
could expose these people for exactly what they are, for what their
plans are and for what I witnessed behind the New World Order, to be
able to get help for my daughter who was in desperate need of help
at that particular time.
So, I began writing out my memories. By writing out my memories, I
used a different part of my brain than verbalizing - it bypasses
emotion. Bypassing emotion was very necessary for logically making
the incomprehensible comprehensible, for understanding and grasping
what had happened to us and what could be done with that
Kelly was not so fortunate. Because of the harmonic programming that
she'd endured, remembering the traumas and deprogramming the
programs did not allow her access to all parts of her brain as it
did me. She still needed some technological equipment to help her
She needed to actually have those neuron pathways vibrated
back open with harmonic equipment. Therefore, she went into Humana
Hospital in Anchorage Alaska, in an intensive care unit. She
suffered horribly at that time and responded only to some
psychological intervention and not to any conventional medications.
Kelly was actually suffering respiratory failure, because mind
control has advanced to the point where they know the ins and outs
of the brain and the mind so well that they know how to program not
only the subconscious, but to go into the primitive mind, the very
area of our mind where blinking, breathing and heartbeat is
regulated. They can go in there and put death programs in place.
In my daughter's case it was respiratory failure, so that in the
event that she ever had cause to remember - which they never
expected could happen - but in espionage that can happen... So they
won't have to take the old cyanide pill anymore, like spies used to,
instead they would simply go into respiratory failure or circulatory
failure and no information would be released at all.
daughter was being raised - genetically and through mind control - to be in espionage, she had that program in place and it went into
effect. Because of the medical attention that she needed she became
quickly thrust into the illegal and immoral custody of the state of
Tennessee, where she remains today.
The violations of laws and rights that proliferated in her so-called
'legal' case were extensive. We had one clean district attorney that
went in and told the judge that he was violating constitutional
rights and human rights in my daughter's case. He cited law after
law after law and the judge interrupted him and said, "But laws do
not apply in this case for reasons of national security".
This certainly raises a Question: "What does national security have
to do with the documented, validated and proven rape and molestation
of a child's mind and body?"
For Kelly's sake and the sake of so many other mind control
survivors out there, we need to lift this veil of "national
security". We need to repeal the 1947 National Security Act.
isn't national security, it's threatening the security of our nation
when it covers up such crimes against humanity as mind control, when
it covers up the CIA's so-called 'war on drugs', when it covers up
the selling out of our country to New World Order controls. That's a
national security that has nothing to do with the security of our
This "national security" has kept information pertaining to mind
control from all of you for far too long. We've got to get this
information out. We've got to arm others with knowledge on mind
control, because knowledge is our only defense against mind control.
We need to get this information out in detail so that we can all be
more effective in our particular areas of taking back our country,
and ultimately, taking back our world... For Kelly's sake, for the
sake of all the other mind control survivors and victims that I know
are out there, there's many of them, and for the sake of humanity as
we know it.
It is truth that sets us free...
Please help us spread the word.
Question: What name did you go under when assigned to Robert Byrd?
Cathy: Cathy Houston. I had Alex Houston's name at that time.
Mark: When I rescued Cathy and her daughter, Alex Houston her
handler was on vacation at Boys Town. What a place to vacation! I
suppose it would be if you were an alleged pedophile. We have a
picture of his den wall and he's got the keys to Boys Town hanging
on his wall. Now I don't know what this fellow was doing up there,
but there are a number of people that said that he was molesting
them and they came out in court and said that he was molesting them.
In the Franklin cover-up he is mentioned as a "molester".
Question: Is Jonestown part of mind control?
Mark: Jonestown was an MKULTRA project. Now that's right out of the
government printing office, right out of the FOIA. You can get this
information just like I did and you can look in the book and you
will see government headings from the "Freedom of Information Act
Government Printing Office", of various investigations done by
Congress, the 93rd Congress, the 95th Congress, and so on and so
forth. If you go to your library and access those under those
headings, you will come up with this information.
But let me give you a little information about Jonestown. In French
Guiana, the money for Jonestown came through a Mexico City bank and
it was traced directly to the Central Intelligence Agency. Jonestown
was not a mind control project. Mind control had long since been
perfected. Jonestown was a biological weapons project. And the worst
part about this whole thing is there are two other projects twice
the size that had been going on in 1977 and they are still going on
Now, that is very much reminiscent of the house of prostitution for
little children that were being used in Washington DC that you read
about even in your... I don't want to call them "newspapers"
anymore... There was a house of prostitution that these congressmen
were using that was using little children in there.
Well nobody ever
thought to ask, "What happened to all the little children that were
being used?" I'll tell you: they were moved right down the street,
two and a half blocks away, to three other houses of prostitution
that still operate to this day!
Cathy: It's interesting to note that Wayne Cox
idolized Jim Jones,
he also idolized Charles Manson. This is the same Wayne Cox that's
down there in Chatham, Louisiana, an occult serial killer who is
immune from prosecution, right now -- he's free, for reasons of
Question: What is the name of the Jesuit order you spoke about?
Cathy: I mention in the book that they refer to themselves, not only
the Jesuits but all of them at the top of this New World Order, as
the Order of the Rose.
Question: Please discuss the connection between the
New World Order
and the dominant network media. For example, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN,
Mark: Information control, folks, is mind control. Need I say more?
What you hear and what you see is all you have to base your
decisions upon... We're being brainwashed.
Question: Do you see any connections between government and
Mark: No, I see a direct correlation between Satanic activity as
well as blood traumas and other horrific types of abuse that is used
as a part of their religious belief. But I don't down-play the
subject of Satanism, it's just that when you say, "aliens did it",
"demons did it", I can't do anything about a demon, I can't do
anything about an alien. I can do something about a human being that
says they're a demon or says they're an alien. And you all can
affect those kind of folks too. But I don't know of any way to go
after a demon, nor an alien.
I'm not saying there's not aliens and I'm not saying there's not
demons, but I want to tell you all something: every single patient
up until about 1982 that was presenting with dissociative identity
disorder was diagnosed with demons and they went right off the edge.
And if that didn't get them, the "how does that make you feel?" got
them, or "your session is up" got them, when they were right in the
middle of an abreaction - that's re-experiencing the trauma. So the
poor patient was either going to be subjected to an exorcism by a - good intentioned in most cases
- religious person, or an exorcism
of sorts from their therapist.
Because they didn't have any other information, they didn't know
what they were looking at. They didn't realize that the brain stem
was scarred, very much like they have in multiple sclerosis, and
that you can get people to retrain the brain right through the
auditory (sic). But you can't say, "Let me get that demon out", or
"Oh, gee, I hope the alien doesn't come and get you tonight",
because you are reinforcing program.
So, no, I'm not downplaying Satanism, I'm not downplaying any sort
of religious belief. What I am downplaying is a belief that it's
something other than human beings.
Question: How much mind control is in the mass media? For example,
last year there was no such thing as black helicopters... As of last
month, everybody knows the military has black helicopters.
Cathy: Mind manipulation in the media is extensive and they are
controlling us by controlling our information, the same way that
they're controlling children through the information that they are
being fed in the school system.
And to answer another Question: yes, it is in our school systems
now. And the computers have actually been changed, where the history
has been altered and people like Thomas Jefferson are even left out
of history in order that our children be brought up with socialistic
values. So, just as our children are being manipulated in the school
system, all of us are being manipulated through the media.
We need to be especially careful that when trauma occurs in this
country, we are not losing any more of our freedom, because they
know that the traumatic effects on your mind are making you more
susceptible and more suggestible and receptive to whatever controls
they want to implement.
Question: Are many FBI and
CIA personnel under mind control?
Mark: I have heard there are. I don't personally know anybody under
mind control who are working for the CIA or the FBI. I know a lot of
them that are under information control.
I do know that the CIA and FBI recruits
Mormons with favoritism,
who have just come off of their mission. Now, these gentlemen are
very receptive to taking orders, they are highly suggestible and
they are ones who I know are being manipulated. There is a
disproportionate number of Mormons in both the FBI and the CIA. I
did not find that to be an indictment of the Mormons. As a matter of
fact, we'll be in Salt Lake City speaking on the 13th of November,
addressing a number of concerned Mormons because of this very
Question: What do you think of
Linda Blood's book, "The New
Satanists"? Could you talk about Michael Aquino and his MO?
Cathy: Yes, absolutely. Michael Aquino is a primary mind control
programmer of mine.
Mark: By the way, he's a litigant too. He sues everybody that ever
talks about him. Including Linda Blood. Except us. He got on
national television and said: "Yeah, I know that Mark Phillips. He
is gonna be the destruction of all organized religion in this
country." Well, now there's an indictment!
Michael Aquino is the founder of
the occult Temple of Set
that is proliferating on our military bases. He was with the
psychological warfare division. Some of his power is eroding thanks
to the exposure that he is getting through people like Linda Blood.
It was my experience with Michael Aquino that he does not believe in
the power of Satan, he does not believe in spirituality at all...
That's not a part of what he does. What he does believe in is the
power of trauma on the human mind and the compartmentalization of
memory through high voltage stun guns.
Question: How does mind control work?
Mark: Whoever asked me that question, I hope they bought our book...
Question: Why aren't people able to see beyond mind control once
they are controlled?
Mark: Then it wouldn't be mind control. It would be foot control, or
finger control or eye control.
There is no conscious awareness under mind control. You cannot think
to get out of it. There's no reason to get out of it because you
don't even think that you're being abused.
You don't think. That's the simplest analogy I can give you. You are
a reactionary robot.
Question: How do you get deprogrammed?
Cathy: With love. A lot of patience.
Mark: The modality for doing that is in our book. It's a fifteen
step one and no therapist can legally do it. I can, and I'm not
going to do it any more.
Question: How come the powers that be haven't killed either one of
Mark: Two reasons. How many people in here believe in
Those that have your hand up know half of the reason. The other
reason is, we followed a very careful path to the proverbial barn.
We did not make some of the mistakes that some of our predecessors
have. It's not that I'm any smarter, its just that I listen well and
I know how to trust, therefore I know who to trust, even those that
I have not seen.
Cathy: Another reason: they've got so many fires to stomp out now,
with people bringing truth out. We're just one of many. And besides,
stopping us is not going to suppress the truth.
Question: Were you ever at
the Bohemian Club in Northern California?
Cathy: Yes. There is a chapter in the book pertaining to
Grove and some of the meetings that went on there between the
politicians and world leaders that were involved. That is a place
that needs to be exposed for exactly what it is.
Question: Considering the things you've seen and the places you've
been why are you still alive today?
Mark: I can tell you from personal experience, I can't tell you all
the places I've been, I wonder why I'm still alive today. But her?
It remains a total mystery to me and it always will.
Now her body bears the scars. She has some of the things that they
can't take away, that they can't deny. Like Mr. Byrd... If he were
undressed before Congress and the nation, there are things he can't
deny, and Mr. Cheney as well. But there are undeniable scars that
this lady carries that are not on her mind, they are on her brain
stem, all over her body, thousands of stun gun scars, and a vaginal
mutilation that defies the worst horror story you can imagine.
Those are things that people don't do to themselves.
I had a CIA boy who was palming himself off as an enforcement
officer with the DEA who was on assignment to the US Customs,
Florida... That should have been a tip-off. He said: "You know, FBI
believes she had that done to herself."
I said :
"Of course she did. With a pocket knife, moron!" I said:
"How in the world would anybody even find anybody evil enough to do
something like that?"
And I tracked it down. It's an ancient
Egyptian practice taught to Michael Aquino. And I understand from
her that he is alleged to be the one that told her handler, Alex
Houston, how to use carving knives to do it. He bragged that he was
a 'carver'... He carved people.
Question: Could you please elaborate on
Ronald Reagan's involvement?
Cathy: Oh yes, I could for a long time. I wish we had more time. The
details are in the book.
Mark: I need to bring up the Ronald Reagan situation. I've got my
wall in my office covered with invitations from Ronald Reagan, from
George Bush, and some other presidents, one I don't even want to
mention. But I was invited to dinners and inaugurations and all
sorts of things through my relationships with people in the
community and the State Department.
When I heard this information, I wasn't shocked about Ronald Reagan
because when I was with Ampex Corporation in the early seventies,
Ronald Reagan was governor of California and he was in big big
trouble because he had encouraged a MKULTRA mind control experiment
to be instituted in the Vacaville Prison here in California. And it
made the Congressional Record.
And Ronald Reagan is the governor who
is the only governor of any state in the United States that got
caught instituting trauma-based, chemical-based, frontal lobotomy,
and so on mind control in our prison systems. Now it is rampant. As
a matter of fact, this is the one subject that you can get more
information out of Congress on than any of the rest of them.
Question: How does remote viewing, being done by various former
military men such as Major Ed Dames and Courtney Brown, compare with
your mind control?
Mark: It is all under the guise of MKULTRA. I was part of the Duke
studies in 1967 and '68, working with the paranormal. Most of the
people I saw at that time were of Soviet origin. As a matter of
fact, I didn't know we had a Cold War going on. I really didn't.
There was a huge exchange of information. I was constantly sitting
down to the table with KGB agents and they were identified as such
and handed me cards. I couldn't even understand, the first time
somebody handed me a card I said, "well this is the end of me". He
said, "Do you have a card?"
Question: Who is Kelly's father?
Cathy: Wayne Cox was Kelly's father. He's her father because
genetically they wanted her to have the capacity to be able to kill,
because she was being brought up in espionage for those kind of
But it's interesting to note,
David Icke, a dear friend of ours
stated it eloquently:
"Just as knowledge is neither good nor bad, it
depends who has control of it".
By that same token, genetics, for as
powerful an influence they are, they are not stronger than the human
spirit. Kelly's soul is just so beautiful and her loving capacity is
enormous and the love that she operates from is extensive.
She wants this information out for humanity's sake. So in spite of
the genetics and who Kelly's father is, she's absolutely a beautiful
Question: How did you get the number of operatives in this country?
Mark: I got the answer to that three ways.
There's a catalogue company called
Budapest out of Washington that's
a catalogue of spy books and ours will soon be in it, hopefully.
There are a number of books in there, I can't remember the title
now, but the New York Times reads that catalogue and orders those
books. They are done by Stockwell and every other name you can
imagine, and Philip Agee. Philip Agee I don't have a lot of respect
for at all except, George Bush stood up on national television and
said that he hated him more than any man on earth. I just couldn't
help but love the guy.
Question: You say in your book that mind control slaves are
permitted any drug except marijuana, why?
Cathy: That's an excellent question... The
effects of marijuana on
the brain are not conducive to mind control.
Mark: It doesn't mean you can't be
traumatized and put under mind
control, it just means it screws up the programming...
Cathy: Because it actually opens neuron pathways in the brain. It
expands thought. I'm not going to stand here and speak pro-marijuana
but I am anti-anti-marijuana because we see all these ads on TV, and
even Dole and Clinton in their campaigns are saying "guns, violence
and marijuana", as if it is so violent. Because it is not conducive
to mind control. They want it off the streets more than they want
their drugs, like cocaine, off the street. Marijuana is especially
targeted. I don't promote the use of marijuana as a band-aid for
mind control because, again, knowledge is our only defense against
Question: Tell us about the Congress men and women who are helping
Mark: Yeah right! I'll tell you one. Bob Clement. I grew up with
him. Matter of fact, when his father was governor, I used to go up
with him. I remember I was highly traumatized by something I saw at
the governor's mansion, which I'm not going to tell on Bob, because
it didn't have anything to do with him.
But we've got a number of
clean Congressmen and Congresswomen that are helping us from behind
the scenes. That's part of that 50% equation that we're still here.
The information that we released, we released to every member in
Congress at the same time and I had four Congressmen, one in
particular, hand carrying every one of these packets to respective
Congresswomen and Congressmen.
That took a lot of effort on their
behalf and a lot of nerve, since at that time I did not have all of
that information validated, but they had received information from
members of the Justice Department and US Customs that Cathy O'Brien
was a valid case. And they were able to validate more than half of
what was in that packet.
George Bush was handed a packet and he was nasty with me.
that I threatened his life, which is the farthest thing from the
truth because the Congressman that delivered it happened to be a
lawyer - most of them are unfortunately - he had read the stuff - they were trying every way on earth to indict me for everything you
can imagine, but this particular Congressman said that he would wear
a sandwich sign before the news media if that was going to be the