The following posts were sent by an individual who claims to be
native to a "world-line" where the U.S.A. did not take part in World
There are some Montauk project
investigators such as Michael Ash who state that the
Montauk Project had sent agents
back in time to help Great Britain AND America win the war against
Could THIS current
time/world-line be the result of time-travel manipulation?
OR, could it be that some of the
agents working at Montauk who were affiliated with Germany,
went back in time and helped Germany to win the war,
essentially creating another world-line?
Whatever the case, read on and form your
The following source believes that HIS timeline is the original due
to various inconsistencies that he has observed in our world, and
that OURS is an engineered reality.
Alex Collier on the other hand
states that the "Zenatae" people with whom he is in contact also
confirmed that there is a German Empire timeline however that OUR
timeline is the original, yet the Zenatae "Andromedans" ALSO state
that THIS is essentially the second time around, i.e. that
there was a timeline before THIS one was
created [by the Montauk Project], the creation of
this world-line having changed the 5th dimensional reality of the
So what is the TRUE reality?
Or is reality like a hologram of
... that is, all the "branches"
are connected at the subtle levels yet one will "see" a
different "reality" depending on what "branch-perspective"
they are looking at!?.
Could the creation of multiple
timelines by temporal manipulation on the part of the
Montauk projects lead to some kind of unraveling of the
linear third dimension itself, perhaps around the year
2012 as some have
The individual source of this
information will be identified only as "ProfessorPhate":
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:37:43 -0600
Thank you for your gracious if overwhelming reply. I can only
hope that I have the intellectual stamina to co-ordinate the
expression of my thoughts as well as you have deployed yours.
Because of other demands I will be obliged to respond to your
e-mail in a piece-meal fashion, but eventually I will address,
in however a circuitous route, as many of the topics as I can.
The paucity in my personal experience of different world-lines
makes me incapable of attributing the primacy of origin or
determination to one as opposed to another. Indeed, as I am
increasingly coming to suspect, that may be ultimately a
meaningless question. Although, by circumscribing one's set of
references, a diligent observer could discern a genealogy. Any
person who has transposed from their aboriginal world-line to an
alternative can automatically, by virtue of their discrepant
nature, evaluate the comparative stability or 'solidity' of the
two. At least, this is my vouchsafed experience.
This natural talent or expertise is
perhaps not germane to, and probably obfuscates, any attempt to
ascertain a family-tree.
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:25:58 -0600
To continue.... Another aptitude that is acquired by a
transposer is a psychic sensitivity which I call (and this
is possibly a misnomer) chronopathy, i.e.: the ability to
detect locales where there is a temporal discontinuity. This has
a variety of formats. What might be indicated is a site of
unusual temporal integrity or intensity in comparison to it's
surroundings. Or a configuration that is peculiarly related to a
counterpart on another time/world-line, and thus has a higher
potential to facilitate a physical transfer between the two
There are doubtlessly other
determinations which can be gleaned and a superintending gestalt
that I do not yet understand. In my experience, an overcast day
is the most conducive condition or prerequisite for reliable and
repeated observations; but, on the other hand, the absence of
sunlight, that is to say, the evening obliterates any
sensitivity. On one or two occasions I have discovered in the
full bore of unfiltered sunlight one of these outstanding sites
Whether this was due to a unique
emanation or an unusual degree of discrimination on my part, or
some other variable or combination of the aforementioned, I
cannot say. This year I intend to begin a cartographical record
of these areas. Lastly, alas, I must acknowledge that in my case
I can only espy those emplacements that are synchronized (in
whatever manner or quality) with my own world-line.
As to whether this reveals an
intrusion of one domain upon the other, or a natural or
artificial network of gateways... I do not know. Although I am
prone to rampages of speculation, about this entire matter I am
trying to be as circumspect as possible.
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:59:10 -0600
Deleting, for the sake of narrative simplicity, my own intricate
and confusing story (that will have to be recounted later), let
me expatiate upon my home world-line.
It is 25 years behind this time-line.
Perhaps the most glaring departure between the two is that the
United States never participated in the Second World War.
After the conquest of Metropolitan France by Germany (and
Italy), the British Empire signed an armistice and subsequent
peace-treaty with the Axis powers. A matter has occurred which
unfortunately obliges me to curtail the account very
prematurely. I will resume as soon as I can.
Thanks for your patience.
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 13:20:09 -0600
The provisions of the settlement were actually quite lenient.
There was to be no occupation and the British army was promptly
repatriated (there was no Dunkirk - the war party in the
Parliament toppled when the B.E.F. was bagged in France). And in
return for German 'guidance' in British foreign (and to a lesser
degree, domestic) policy and the contribution of a modest
expeditionary force (mainly naval) to the great anti-Bolshevik
crusade, Hitler, to the extreme annoyance of the Italians,
personally guaranteed the integrity of the British Empire (a
point not lost on the Japanese either).
Although Hitler was very partial to
Mussolini as an individual, the German military established a
far more intimate relationship with the English than they ever
desired to with their ostensible Italian allies. Nevertheless,
the remnants of the war party, in the guise of a British-first
movement, was able to survive, after a fashion, as the loyal
Parliamentary opposition. Punctuated with violence, the
socialist and labor coalition was suppressed, intimidated,
co-opted, or bought-off. They remain to this day however the
source of the English Resistance (by way of comparison, they are
to the United Kingdom what
the Basques are to contemporary
Spain in this world-line).
WW II was much less damaging to
Britain than was the case here. A number of nations, especially
Australia and New Zealand, were more pro-Empire than even the
English! South Africa became the 'fascist conscience' of Great
Britain, while Canada became the haven for the disloyal (albeit
ineffectual) opposition. India remained the jewel in the crown;
but the sub-continent was a much more fractious place than it
was in the pre-war period. This took longer than I anticipated.
It's time for me to move along again.
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 02:03:06 -0600
Before I continue my historical background briefing tomorrow,
let me quickly answer a few of your latest questions.
If you regard any of my information or conjectures meritorious
enough, then by all means post whatever you wish.
On my world-line, during the war many thousands of Jews were
surreptitiously ransomed by concerned parties in the Western
Otherwise, they and others were
gradually exhausted as slave-labor. It was the maw of inhuman
economics that consumed their lives rather than occultic
From my 15 year research effort I have concluded that whereas
the Germans may have lost the war on this world, the Nazis
and their allies in the United States definitely won.
Although I learned in 1974 how to physically transfer myself
back to my aboriginal world-line (an opportunity of which I
fortunately did not avail myself), agents there 'grafted' my
consciousness upon a duplicate in this world. A simply made
remark that plasters over a great many stumbling blocks of
I am in general agreement concerning your assertion that dreams
can be a medium of insertion or transference.
But if I may use myself once again
as a totally unrepresentative statistical sample, in my
experience (which I have undergone only a few times), it is a
'trance' state even deeper than the usual oneiric condition that
actually propels one into an authentic alternative world. One
would realize that you have transposed if, in your dream, all of
your senses, self-awareness, and perhaps most importantly
critical reflectiveness are as active as they are when you are
Ordinarily, these faculties are
non-existent, suppressed, or diminished in the dream-state.
In any case, when an 'immigrant'
returns their consciousness to their home world-line they
experience an ineffable re-synchronization or 'aptness' that
throws into glaring relief how 'unreal' their other life has
Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:13:10 -0600 (CST)
As if attempting to subdue China wasn't a sufficient strain upon
Japan's resources, beginning in May 1939 they found themselves
in an ever expanding war with the Soviet Union. Being so
preoccupied on the the mainland of Asia the Japanese Empire
couldn't even seriously entertain a general offense against the
United States or even the vestigial European colonial powers
(particularly since they were now the clients of Germany).
With Britain and Japan thus removed as instigators, the
interventionist cause collapsed in America. Even after the
invasions of the Soviet Union the consensus of the citizenry
"It's far away... they might all
kill each other off... what about us?"
A degree of artificial prosperity
was generated by the expansion of the armed forces (less than
undertaken by your country during WW II, but stupendous compared
to the pre-war levels of either world-line) and more decisively
by the elaboration of the armaments industry.
The dominant isolationist faction
accepted the conversion of the United States into Fortress
America, and the internationalists had to be content with
arranging for the hemispheric defense.
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 20:00:09 -0600
It wasn't until approximately 1960 that the United States was
able to surmount the pitfalls created by the Great Depression.
We did not enjoy the unique and tremendous economic advantages
that allowed the America of this world-line to so spectacularly
flourish. There was little transfer of hard assets (principally
undertaken by Great Britain in your time-line) to our coffers.
There was no post-war worldwide captive market for our exports
And there was no returning throng of
potential consumers prepared to re-vitalize the domestic
economy. Consider the ramifications of that last absent
phenomenon. We didn't have a baby-boom! There was no demographic
displacement to the suburbs (of course there was some inevitable
expansion in that direction)! On the other hand, we too have an
interstate highway system-and one completed earlier than yours
(facilitates troop-movements you know).
Our material quality of life would
seem Spartan, somewhat shabby, and rather technologically
unsophisticated to you (even allowing for the 25 year
discrepancy in our 'temporal velocities'), but a preservationist
would regard my U.S. of A. as a paradise.
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:21:50 -0600
I can quickly reply to two of your previous questions before I
describe contemporary conditions on my world-line.
America participated in WW I as it did in your history. And I
have no idea if JFK was assassinated or even if he entered
politics. My knowledge of personalities is non-existent. I have
a conjecture as to why that is the case, but I must cogitate
upon it further before I will hazard a thesis.
Currently my world-line has dire expectations for it's future.
Imagine your own world's cold-war at its most truculent-with the
equivalent of a Cuban Missile Crisis occurring two of
three times a year. Nerves are frazzled beneath the surface of
denial. The final war is expected-if not tomorrow or even the
day after, then someday and soon. At least in the United States,
people eagerly (if not desperately) lose themselves in the
intricacies of ordinary life.
Let me set the international scene.
After the conquest of European Russia, the gruesome colonization
of their frontier - the Ostmark, the giddiness of recasting the
architectural face of Greater Germany, the self-indulgence
abetted by plunder and triumph, and the glorification of the
fatherland not experienced since 1871, the Third Reich is
obviously the pre-eminent, if not pre-dominant, world power.
And although the technocrats believe
the future for Germany is in continuing it's monopoly of space
exploration and colonization, the latest generation of occultic
ideologues are on the verge of successfully promoting a renewal
of war in order to acquire the sacred Aryan homeland of
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:25:53 -0600
To continue and I hope complete my most generalized recounting
of the international situation on my world-line....
India has become a running sore for Great Britain. Very little
of the Indian Army would be available for overseas deployment
and that otherwise large military assets is just about the only
enticement for the British to remain. Everyone expects them to
abandon the sub-continent soon and let (greater) India return to
it's pre-conquest Balkanized condition. Canada is independent in
all but name; and, of course, a somewhat dismembered France (at
the connivance of the Germans) is attempting with considerable
success to incite the secessionist sentiments of Quebec.
Justifiably, the Empire has become increasing paranoid about
The 'new Roman Empire' of Italy has settled (or sunk) into
Of all the former Axis powers, Japan suffered the greatest
losses, expenditure of capital, and realized the least from its
victory. The Japanese fought the Soviet Union the longest and
with the least success. The spoils of Siberia have not been
extracted as thoroughly as they might because of the
under-capitalized Japanese economic infrastructure. Although as
an outlet for the excess population from the home islands, the
'Northern Frontier Zone' has provided one of the few untarnished
consequences of victory.
China has been subdued but in it's
subjection has become a tremendous burden for Japan to control.
Perhaps in reaction to a less than satisfactory (especially
compared to Germany) post-war recovery and as development of
pre-war sociological trends, the Japanese have become even more
hysterical in their racial chauvinism than even the Nazis!
The ruling class has immersed itself
in a nihilistic spiritual creed. Think of a North Korea in
command of the manpower and potential wealth of the Far East and
you will have an image of the condition that obtains in
contemporary Japan. It is widely assumed that the British Empire
in the Pacific will be their first target, followed by the
One more installment should do it.
with best regards,
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:14:13 -0600
America is a garrison state, it has ruthlessly, if not always
nakedly, enforced it's hegemony of the Western Hemisphere. The
chronic and occasionally acute demands of national security have
provoked restiveness in a potion of the public, but for many
Americans this is the first era of relative affluence they have
enjoyed since the fabled 1920's and so they're willing to
overlook the fact that the United States is a cryptofascist
Along this world-line Roswell evidently never happened and thus
Corso (or his counterpart)
retro-engineered alien technology
into our commercial infrastructure. The subsequent social
revolution that this world-line underwent never occurred on my
home-world. Although the sophistication of our computers is many
technical generations behind yours, my America is our world's
leader in the development of 'electronic calculators'.
A frantic Great Britain has at last succeeded in prying the
United States loose from it's official foreign policy of
autarkic isolationism (of course we regard South America and the
rest of North America as our economic and political preserve-and
there has been for 50 years a tight, if unacknowledged,
collusion between the plutocracies of Germany and the U.S.A.).
There is a de-facto alliance
between the British Empire and America to repel the impending
Germany is expected to opportunistically revive it's drive to
the east bringing it on a collision course with the Empire of
Nippon. However oblique the motives and goals of the 'allies'
may be they have the power to defeat Japan. But defeat isn't
enough. Japan is sufficiently strong to be a vortex capable of
dragging everyone else down. And on my world-line there will be
no hesitation about depleting the super-weapons in every
I have now at last finished conveying the highlights of my
home-world's modern history and contemporary situation. I
apologize for any pedantry, but without providing some
background my own story is incomprehensible.
as always, with best regards,
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:53:31 -0600
If one must identify a single divergency-tangent (a
descriptive model that I am increasingly coming to regard as a
distorting over-simplification) between our world-lines, it
would be the Japanese reaction to the humiliating defeat
inflicted upon them by the Soviet Union in the battle of
Khalkin-Gol or the Nomohan Incident that concluded on the 31st
of August 1939.
I just don't know if there was a
Montauk Project or even a Philadelphia
Experiment on my world-line. It is obvious to me
however that some party or parties in that United States has the
power to implant my psyche into this world-line and to
communicate with me as required. I was dispatched on a mission
and I can only presume, let me reiterate, presume that I wasn't
sent here alone.
I'm just the tip of a very long
Perhaps my remarks concerning the
issue of the primacy and derivativeness of world-lines was
elliptical, too off-handed, or so embedded textually as to be
understandably overlooked. I never intended to imply that I
regarded my home-world as the original; in fact, I have come to
consider the question of which time/world-line was the first as
a meaningless one. However, for reasons previously mentioned, I
have ascertained that this world-line, compared to my own (the
only basis of comparison I have) is profoundly far-fetched and
Insofar as I can determine, if one must ascribe a single initial
divergence (another practice about which I have become highly
dubious) it would be the success in your history of the
This instability has been subsequently reinforced by the passing
of the Dark Satellite (1881), the Montauk Project
(insert your own dates), the detonation of a
teratological bomb by the
U.S. (1993), and God knows what else. As for being a
whatever this world-line was originally, it sure is one now.
If I can keep up, more latter and best regards,
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:36:18 -0600 (CST)
We certainly have our nuclear arsenals (and the United States
possesses a 'Maginot Line' of particle beam towers-which I
suspect is what has principally deterred Germany from attacking
I am unaware of a
Bermuda Triangle or its
counterparts on my world.
This is an expression of my ignorance - nothing else is implied.
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:25:43 -0600
The question of doubles is a vexing one. Although I am very
inclined to answer no, I feel that if I did so an important
qualification or aspect would be swept under the rug. I'm sorry
that I don't have a facile reply, but this is another mystery
about my situation which perplexes me.
No PBS or cable, but our commercial networks are more numerous.
The broadcasting emphasis is upon local and national
'niche-programming' much as it was in the early 50's on this
world-line. In content, it's never moved too far away from it's
foundation in radio. A rut I guess, however we never had to wait
for the latest programming fad to recede either. By the way, the
movie studios received an anti-trust exemption (it was in the
'national interest' to have that propaganda mill undisturbed)
and so the movie industry never underwent the wrenching
restructuring that here it suffered through for 30 years.
Insofar as I can ascertain, our industrial style and the pace of
alteration is extremely modest or conservative compared to
flurry of change and temporary domination of a given fashion
that we experience. On my world-line, the American civilian
economy, although robust, just doesn't have the elasticity and
self-indulgent abundance that is so staggering on your world.
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:35:01 -0600
Our most advanced American cars are lower, wider and more
curvaceous than those with which we are familiar. The new Beetle
is very reminiscent of our automobile designs. We didn't have to
endure fins, compact cars, or... ahh... Japanese imports.
In apparel, societal strictures have prevented the flood of
informality that has inundated the costuming here. The uniforms
of subcultures (Goth, gangsters, etc.) that have proliferated in
this America are, insofar as they exist at all, marginal and
when they surface regarded with suspicion by the mainstream
What we know as 'casual dress' is
about as casual as it gets.
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:04:45 -0600
I have previously alluded to the fact that on my world-line
there is a substantial collaboration between the American
plutocracy and the technocratic faction of the German
ruling-class. I am, of course, not privy to the intimate
particulars of this arrangement.
Ironically, it was probably this alliance that forestalled fatal
conflict between the Third Reich and the United States.
So your intuition Alan is quite
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:42:40 -0600
To reiterate: the most valuable resource 'possessed' by this
planet, the one which attracts in ever increasing numbers
visitors from throughout
the multiverse, is its
metaphysical and empirical eccentricity.
The strain of improbability, indigenous to all world-lines, is
unusually and significantly pronounced in this one. Activities
can be undertaken here that are prohibitively difficult on the
operator's home-world, Discoveries, inventions, experiments,
etc., which, if possible at all, would require exorbitant time
and labor to even attempt on another-more staid-world can be
performed on this planet, at this time, with comparative ease.
Unfortunately, every such act (and
indeed the insertion of the 'alien' perpetrator himself)
increases the instability of this world-line. Improbabilities
compound themselves until, if you will, the speculative bull
market crashes. I would be surprised if there weren't numerous
native-born humans who aren't exploiting this condition as well.
Whatever else obtains that would
contribute to the explanation of this planet's current
condition, this is the situation as I understand (and have been
given to understand) it to be.
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:00:56 -0500 (CDT)
Regrettably [****], I am unable to answer the vast majority of
your questions, and the rest only in a generality. For example,
organized religion in my America still has an elaborate and
intimate community or neighborhood presence generally throughout
Remember, the Sixties never happened on my world; and the social
alterations which happened so precipitously and irresistibly
here have proceeded, shall we say, more sedately or diffidently
from where I come. But as to the details of how our scriptures
differ from yours... I have no idea. I presume - or take for
granted - that until the divergency in 1939 the minutiae
of daily life were identical on both worlds.
This is my problem (well, one of them): something more
substantial than my consciousness but (I presume-once again, as
usual) something less encompassing than my soul was
'transferred' involuntarily from my aboriginal world to this
one. This happened when I was six years old (on both worlds). I
first became aware of my 'dislocation' when I was eight years of
age (on this world-line of course). How much does a six year old
remember about anything? How much can anyone forty-six years
later reliably remember of one's infancy? And how much survived
the 'abolition' I underwent?
Besides, I am now a fully integrated
personality. The only direct knowledge I have of my home-world
has been gleaned from those few occasions when my astral body
has been retrieved by my 'superiors' in order to reinforce my
conditioning (it isn't my intention to convey the impression
that this is a sinister procedure - the grief engendered by
ontological nostalgia is more than sufficiently persuasive in
cementing one's attention). The historical information that I
have imparted devolves from a 'briefing' that those responsible
for my condition and mission 'super-imposed' upon me (again, as
reinforcement). So my knowledge is maddeningly general and
abstract on the one hand, and overly particular but severely
constrained on the other.
So, although I will try to be as
forthcoming as possible, I hope you will appreciate my
with the very best of regards,
[Note: the following post was in
response to claims made by Alex Collier that the Germans
created a time/space rift in 1931 as a result of time-travel
experimentation, allowing the "Greys"
to enter our reality from the future (of an "earlier" time/world)
and begin to engage in temporal manipulation along this world-line
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:35:56 -0500
Okay, I'm not quite sure if I am most directly addressing Alan
or Alex, but in any case....
When I first read this post I a priori dismissed the
possibility raised within. However upon reflection, my initial
reaction was prejudiced and hasty.
If the Germans are experimenting with time machines upon my
world-line (and I have no indication that they are, but there is
also no reason for me to be privy to such machinations - I
couldn't resist the pun), I imagine that the means of acquiring
temporal technology was as follows.
Presuming that the Germans (whoever that might really be - for
example, instead of the Nazi's equivalent of the Manhattan
Project, it could be the undertaking of an isolated faction) are
aware of this world-line and can also insert their agents into
it, at some junction along the post-1931 timeline of
this earth, they contact those Germans engaged in
Because, as I have previously
posted, your world-line is much more susceptible to paranormal
exploitation the possibility of succeeding in such experiments
is significantly greater and easier. After learning all they
can, these hypothetical agents are then extracted and returned
to my home-line... and the mischief begins anew. Elements of
this scenario could be altered for it to be equally plausible,
but this version seems to be the most sensible to me.
However, let me reiterate, I know of no evidence to justify it's
supposition. Quite frankly, although I must begrudgingly
intellectually concede the possibility described in your post,
emotionally I don't want to have anything to do with it.
But that's a bad reflection upon me,
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:57:32 -0500
Dear Alan and et al,
Regrettably, my specific knowledge of my home-line depends upon
a collage of childhood memories, casual re-observation,
'attuned' inferences, and the statements of my superiors.
I am unable, therefore, to reply directly to your inquiry; but
obliquely I can say this: it is my impression/understanding that
most other world-lines, are above all else, concerned with
maintaining their own stability, their own hum-drum persistence
and progression, if you will.
This world-line (and others like it) is regarded as a
fascinating, useful, and horrible example of what happens when
temporal/ontological manipulation escalates.
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:37:06 -0500
Since the discussion of parallel worlds, including most
of the concepts and terminology associated with this topic,
originated in the popular culture of science-fiction and comic
books, I thought I should bring this to your attention.
The role-playing company TSR for its game Alternity has
published a supplement entitled Tangents. It is a source
book which describes in considerable detail their theory of
alternate worlds and the technology used to travel from one
world-line to another. Of course, most of the material is only
pertinent to and phrased in terms of the game system;
nevertheless, some of you might find the conjectures contained
therein to be stimulating and useful.
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:42:32 -0500
Dear Alan, friends, and lurkers,
My apologies for the tardiness of my reply to the question you
posed on the 18th of last month, but I have been recovering from
a nasty spot of pneumonia.
My 'overseers', as you have felicitously characterized them,
treat me as a more or less involuntary agent, and thus, I can
only make informed inferences about their nature and purpose. I
have been told that the American government will be the
beneficiary of the information that I accrue upon this world.
From this I surmise that they are,
to some degree at least, working for the government in some
intelligence gathering and/or military capacity. Their purview
seems to be circumscribed to these areas of interest and
whatever I (and others sent from my original world-line) glean
will be dedicated to the impending war effort [against the
Germanic 'empire' which threatens the 'other' world-line ? -
They may have the know-how to be a
'quantum police force', but insofar as I can tell, they have no
motivation or inclination to behave as such.
with best regards,
(Note: the following are more
recent posts from ProfessorPhate, to the members of a 'time travel
email list' years ago)
Date: Mon Jul 31, 2000 11:39am
Subject: Re: Inquiries was Re: Al Bielek video
To all that this may concern,
I haven't, until about five minutes ago, taken the time to read
the messages posted on this forum for the last two days. I
believe that Joni is, with gracious reticence, referring to me
as the one who has asserted that I am a transplant from an
alternate Earth. It was not my intention (rather my inattention)
to artificially create suspense concerning when or if I would
reveal my identity.
If Mr. Hamilton and the others who
have expressed interest in my story (for which, honesty in
advertising compels me to admit I have not an iota of evidence)
would consult the archives of this list (perhaps the list-master
could be of assistance) many of their inquiries should be
addressed; if not, I think (cross your fingers) I have my
primary statement on file and could arrange to reproduce it here
for general edification (or entertainment, as the case may be).
There is not much more that I
currently have to add to the aforementioned archived report
except to say, that based upon a certain series of disclosures
which have been tendered to me in the last year, I am becoming
persuaded that this Earth may have more exiles, agents, or
what-have-you from alternative Earths walking around than I have
If I can be of any assistance in
providing further elucidation about my own situation or this
topic in general I am at your disposal.
Dear Mr. Hamilton, et al,
As I read your recent message I couldn't remember posting such
interesting material, and then it occurred to me that perhaps
you are alluding to Mr. Walton's (and may he soon rejoin us)
remarks which became entangled with my own; this is
understandable since my supplementary elaborations appeared in a
dialogue with the estimable Mr. Walton. Nevertheless, although
we will have to await his exposition of the 'Time War' and the
5th dimension, I can address your other inquiries.
Once again, I shall try to clarify a misunderstanding which
hitherto I have never been able to correct: to the best of my
knowledge I never claimed that my Earth was the prototype -
indeed, I recall declaiming (perhaps a mite too dismissively or
at least testily) that such a search is impossible and
pointless. However... I did assert that from my perspective this
Earth is an artificially or unnaturally deviated counterpart in
comparison to, if you will, the set of 'natural' permutations.
I, of course, can reasonably be
accused of special-pleading but that is the situation as
understand it to be.
Chronologically, my Earth is about a quarter of century behind
this one; technologically, with a number of exceptions, perhaps
forty years behind yours - well, ours - and in its culture
generally between forty and fifty. If you have found it, the
particulars are dealt with in my 'position paper'.
Although I am hesitant to employ terminology gleaned from
pop-culture, simply because the allegorical correspondences
begin to break down rather quickly and it becomes, in any case,
a narrow and inhibiting framework for discussion (loved the
movie though! - and Dark City is a must see!!), let me just
baldly state that as a principle I regard the astral domain
as 'The Matrix' (although with no imputation of
malevolent Neo-Gnostic deception and oppressiveness) and in its
fundamental function the equivalent of the state vector of
And from this (he said in his best
imitation of Orson Welles as The Shadow) many portentous
Well, I hope some of this helps.
(Woman complained about his lingo)
Superfluous, Judith... never,
convoluted... so a number of my friends say. Okay, at the risk
of stepping into the same bear-trap that I kept telling myself
Let me try this:
the astral domain is
The Matrix, the archetypal
program that can be re-programmed to project any given
simulation of reality into the minds of its percipients. My
earth, our earth, an earth where Mickey Mouse rules the world,
and all the other conceivable and inconceivable, possible and
impossible earths are specific concrete variations of this
Now left to itself this entire
process proceeds according to natural metaphysical laws,
or so metaphysicians and theologians reassure us.
But the human, inhuman, and
non-human will can, according to the same
sources, intervene and alter the code. This can
amount to a violation of, a temporary suspension of, or if he or
she or it is really good, the reconstitution of 'natural
physical laws'. When this happens it's called magic, divine
intervention, Montauk, and a thousand and one other things
(depending on the originating agent(s) or agency); or as a
contemporary scientist might say (and as the relatively - in
these circles - conservative physicist Evan H. Walker did
say) - here comes the jargon - highly sustained willpower
results in the collapse of the state vector on the macroscopic
scale at an extremely improbable level.
Now, if you have one or more parties
in command of the psychological technology (in want of a
better phrase), on this world or any other, necessary to so
re-order the reality of any given group of sentients you don't
have so much, as Mr. Walton says, Time-Wars, as Reality Wars.
That, in a nutshell-perhaps one with a very thick covering and a
very small nut - is why we are experiencing the real
Okay, any better?
Because you were the first to submit a daunting list of
questions to I shall address this response to you, although of
course all who have expressed interest in my statements are
being kept in mind (and yes Judith I do speak like this,
sometimes to the consternation of my friends-I guess I am a
hopeless captive of a 19th century literary temperament).
I see that Starfire Tor also
has some coordinated inquiries, and if I may ask for his
indulgence, I will try to answer his at the soonest available
opportunity. My place of business is starting to move this week,
wonderfully coinciding with a quarter of the staff leaving for
vacation so I am suddenly having to cover the shifts of a number
of other workers and so I'm afraid my stamina is being a bit
over-taxed. So my apologies to all if my replies are even less
satisfactory than usual.
A prefatory note: I'm afraid that drove Mr. Walton to a state
of disappointment and exasperation (if not aggravation) when I
attempted to answer his questions. Regretfully, and no one feels
this more keenly than I do, any elucidation of mine is severely
constrained by the amount of information that I can bring to
bear on the questions mustered by the list members. Irrespective
of whether or not my assertions are judged to be self-delusional
(if not indicative of a psychotic fugue), a hoax, a egomaniacal
campaign to stimulate attention, or what-have-you, my storehouse
of 'facts' or 'information' is almost devoid of goods; and I
cannot confabulate anything beyond that limitation.
I will try to, as thoroughly as I
can, answer any questions but the data you seek just may not be
available to me (this is why I contacted Mr. Walton in the first
place and joined this list, i.e., in the hope that in the
recounting of someone else's story I might find something to
illuminate the very dark corners of my own). So if my responses
seem to be unresponsive, vague, abstract, mere generalities, I
can only express my regret for having falsely inflating your
expectations and then wasting your time.
I infer from the context of my experience that my 'superiors'
(and I place the italic marks around that word to indicate my
ironic and very ambivalent attitude towards them) are a
quasi-government group in my home-world America. By this I mean
they are, as best as I can judge, either a deep black-ops agency
deliberately lost in the bureaucratic paperwork, or an
independent association with intimate one-way (them-to-it) ties
to the government. It is my impression that the latter is closer
to the truth.
Our communication is entirely initiated from their end. On those
rare occasions when it has occurred the medium of transmission
has been my dream-state. Now, I don't have to be psychic to
predict what may now be the reaction of the more skeptical among
you. Believe me, if I was in your position my head would be
shaking as well and what follows would be classified as "Case
But, in order to preserve the
integrity of my experience and the feasibility of my claims let
me, at this time, hope that this clarification is sufficient to
offset the understandable qualms one or more of you may be
having about the bother of reading further. When I have these
'episodes' the panoply of my senses are engaged (very much
unlike the ordinary dream-state, at least mine) and indeed, at a
pitch of lucidity and vivacity greater than my waking-state.
This condition is exclusively extant during these times.
It is as if, and this is how I
interpret it or choose to interpret it, I am returning to the
psycho-physical matrix to which I was aboriginally attuned and
to which I am briefly re-integrated. It's a peculiar form of a
heightened state of consciousness. Without further flailing
about in, what must shortly become for all of you, a tedious
attempt to describe this singular state, let me just conclude by
saying that it's nature is such as to throw it into contrast
with every other state of consciousness that I ordinarily
So, unless I am dealing with an
eccentric neurological disorder-a possibility which I must
acknowledge even if I vehemently reject it-the phenomenal
validity is vouchsafed for me because of the aforementioned
comparisons which I can tabulate. Well, as Judith, my stylistic
conscience, might point out I am becoming garrulous-and here I
haven't even finished answering your second question!
I beseech your patience and I will
It would be helpful if I replied to your questions Maverick in
the order given... ahh, literacy-what a concept-I've got to try
it some time. I jumped from inquiry number one to three. I will
try to be more attentive in the future.
Most specifically, my sponsors (if you will) want me to discover
what methods have been developed on this fraternal earth (if I
may expropriate C.D. Hoit's most felicitous
characterization - kudos!) to biologically enhance the human
body/mind to suprahuman levels. Or to render it another way, to
deliberately punctuate Stephen Gould's 'evolutionary
equilibrium'. If Marverick you have been able to download my
historical overview I think you would join me in concluding that
they wish to apply whatever I have gleaned to improving the
military capabilities of their America.
Frankly, I don't begrudge them this
at all more soon, and I won't be reading any more posts on this list
until I answer your questions, otherwise I will be spinning off
on so many digressions that I'll never get back. And then on to Starfire Tor. If you and he have taken the time and effort to
solicit my responses (however inadequate and unsatisfying they
may be), the least I can do is to stay focused on one compendium
at a time.
Oh, and best regards,
Dear Maverick and all,
At the risk of, as usual, leaving myself hanging from an
expostulary thread, let me slip in a few remarks before I go to
The contact in my sleep might be more exactly described as an
extraction. I believe (and their might be a more accurate
explanation of this phenomenon but this is the one which makes
the most sense to me) that a very deeply embedded hypnotic
program is stimulated by my superiors on these occasions which
enables them to 'pull out' the self than originated on my
fraternal earth, realign its frequency of being so that it
conforms to the resonance of their reality, and then communicate
whatever it is they wish to impart; presumably the process is
then reversed and my aboriginal self is then 'reinserted' or
allowed to flow back into the host-my dopple-ganger on this
That is why I am sympathetic towards
and prejudiced in favor of at least some of
Al Bielek's assertions (Mr.
Hamilton's disquietude about his account not withstanding),
especially those concerning the 'soul-grafting' (my phrase not
his, and probably a poor one) which he and others have had
performed upon them. Well, I'm up against the unyielding clock
and I'm off for the day. I wish, oh do I dearly wish, I could be
more exact and detailed in my rendition Maverick but this is
about the best I can do.
Maybe when I take on your further
questions I can give a more satisfactory reply.
Good morning Maverick and whomever
else is still slogging through this with me,
To provisionally conclude my response to your question about the
"communication pathway", let me hasten to add that my reversions
to my home-world are hardly frequent or periodic. In my entire
life I have only been returned three times, although on the
first occasion, the episode was protracted over several weeks.
However, I have (again, technically in a dream state)
subconsciously projected my self into, or been supinely
attracted by the 'gravitational pull' of, or whatever, my
The second time I was withdrawn by
my superiors I was admonished that such a spontaneous,
involuntary, or surreptitious 'snapping-back' was very reckless
and hazardous (to me, to the mission, to them, to the space-time
equilibrium-I don't know, as usual, I was told as little as
necessary) and not to do it again-for whatever reason I haven't.
This might be the right place to interpolate the sequence of the
procedure whereby I 'arrived' on the world. On my fraternal
earth I was an adult (and no, I don't remember any personal
details-when I have made an unauthorized return I seem to be
incessantly touring my home city - a rough analogue to the one I
live in here - I think in an attempt to 'touch-base' with
something tangible, familiar, in the hope of recovering some
personal information from that period of my life), that
personality was distilled and regressed to the age of six (this
is about to become even more bizarre, inconsistent, and demented
sounding but this is what they told me).
I was then projected into, or
grafted upon (insert your own preferred designation) the being
of my dopple-ganger, who was approximately the same age (I can
'verify' this because I acutely recall the exact
instant-literally-when I realized, at the age of eight, that I
wasn't from this world and that something was very askew'; I
don't know if the epiphany coincided with the introduction of my
base or previous personality or if that fact had taken that long
to percolate to the top of, ahh..., my consciousness.
Then I was informed that when I
obtained the information they sought I would be extracted,
rejoined with my six year old self (although with the
intellectual maturity of a ten year old, I suppose due to the
subconscious presence of the life-time experiences of two
adults) allowed to naturally age to about the age of fourteen
and then debriefed and my 'package' retrieved. Sounds stupid,
doesn't it. And as for all those loose ends... I have absolutely
no idea what happens to them or how to reconcile the multiple
paradoxes. I am equally ignorant concerning the instrumental
details of how all this is done, or why it is, or has to be,
done that way.
As I have said before, I am the very
tip of a very long tail, so my perspective isn't the most
Dear Maverick, and all whose further
inquiries and comments I hope to address in order of appearance
before the expiration of the decade,
Apropos your recommendation of the term 'aberrant'. As I've
indicated, upon reading C.D.Hoit's characterization ('fraternal
world'), I have adopted his usage in lieu of the one you
proposed. Nevertheless, your own coinage is an especially apt
description of this earth's categorical status, and if I might,
without sowing terminological confusion, I would like to reserve
for potential application the adjective 'aberrant' for worlds (I
hope few in number) that can be so classified.
Apparently, I am indeed asserting that these aberrant worlds (in
your sense) are inhabited by soul-filled entities, just as the
'real' (?) world does. Of course, although I have had recourse
to this designation myself, it's presence in this conversation
makes me uncomfortable, simply because so many sects,
denominations, philosophers, and spiritual traditions have so
many differing definitions of this ontological component - the
existence of which is for so many people, in any case,
hypothetical at best. But the barn door was imprudently opened
by me, so....
When you asked: "What is the interface that allows for the
detection of and the connection to targeted souls to fuze?", I
am moved to clarify the entire context of this issue.
All of the material dealt with by me
in that post concerns a secret society on this world. The last
time I was 'summoned home' I had a very anomalous encounter with
my superiors. On this unique occasion, the discussion had
nothing to do with my standing mission. I was shown a film,
accompanied by a briefing (the sources of the content of that
post), and told to garner as much additional information as
rapidly as possible. I inferred that another agent or agents
furnished them initially with what data they possessed because
the topic was a surprise to me.
I surmised that they were very
disturbed by the scope and activities of this fraternity because
of its potential to destabilize the existential adamancy of
their own world. Perhaps they also are trepidatious about the
competitive prowess of this group. I threw out what they knew in
the hope that someone could fill in a blank there, add a detail
here, etc. Nothing came of it; and to me it was just another
job, and a digressive one at that. But I must acknowledge, in my
judgment, their acute concern is justified.
"Are your 'superiors' using souls, in the aberrant world, to
restructure the matrix in the aberrant world... the real world?"
I'm sorry but I cannot begin to answer that question. I doubt if any conjecture on my
part, which you weren't soliciting anyway, would be much more
insightful than your own.
more soon and with best regards,
Hello list members,
"Please identify and expand. Only through specifics can we share
a useful communication." (Maverick was so pushy he repeated this
throughout his entire grilling of Prof. he was so specific he
got kicked off dragonslayers. N)
And if they were to be had they
would be yours. The only meager addition, a clarification
actually, is that this secret society has franchises, if I can
be excused the flippancy, at the time of the original post, on
four fraternal worlds, including this earth where it apparently
originated. I would presume, given what information I did
receive (imparted to me with unusual thoroughness), that in the
interim they have considerably expanded.
This briefing was the last, or
latest, contact I have had with my home-world. As the
perspicacious have noticed, there is a very messy issue of
differing temporal flow-rates, so if my assumption is factually
correct, my sponsors may have an altogether different
perspective. I can only reiterate that, at the time ( :-) ) it
was sudden and very apprehensive development.
Well Maverick, in the absence of an autobiography, that's the
rest of the story insofar as your (initial?) list of questions
is concerned. Perhaps contained therein something of value or
interest was gleaned by you and the others. All complaints are
to be directed to parties unknown on a world far far away.
I will now return to the message board and reply, in rotation,
to any further inquiries submitted by the list members. Thank you all for your courteous
interest and I hope I didn't find my way into too many
Well Starfire, they have never used
the Internet to communicate with me, probably because the
Internet, PC's, and even WebTV have not, I suppose, even been
imagined on my home-world. No Roswell, no Corso, no
transistors... nifty death-ray citadels though. But if you will
read the last chapter of "The
Electric Connection - Its Effects on Mind and Body" by
Michael Shallis I think you will discover some germane, albeit
disquieting, observations on the topic of what can use the
Internet to initiate communication.
I trust that I have been able to elaborate upon, if not
satisfactorily answer, a number of your subsequent questions. As
to whether or not I believe that "...magick and the
sciences play a real role in the working of the matrix", I most
emphatically do, especially here!
To the best of my knowledge (and this only refers to the
research that I have conducted) only the works of John Bennett
(sp?) bear some relevance to the issue of the historical origins
of this secret society; I am reasonably confident in asserting
Illuminati, etc. are not involved.
Their objectives (as claimed by
themselves or by their detractors) and methodologies don't seem
to be pertinent.
Just let take a moment to reassure you that I am not a member of
the Bielek claque. Unlike Mr. Hamilton, or perhaps yourself, I
do not have the competence (nor frankly, the inclination) to
examine the veracity of his claims. His personal account, nor
even his rendition of the P.E./Montauk Affair (sounds like an
old Man From U.N.C.L.E. episode) has any intrinsic bearing upon
my own experiences.
To paraphrase what you said, just
because one can usefully segregate discrete elements from the
accounts of the Montauk Three (or is it Four now?) doesn't
compel one to endorse the remainder. If posterity confirms his
version of events, then good for him; if not, then I trust he
realized he couldn't take it with him.
Certain aspects of his story
resonate with me but it is those similarities and not
necessarily the man himself which arouses my attention
My apologies for the tardiness of my replies, and I am afraid
they will continue, for a while, to be sporadic; because of the
relocation of my workplace I have recently been pulling down
sometimes triple shifts and when I return home even turning on
the Internet seems to be an unbearable chore.
In your message of 8/4/10:57 A.M., you postulated that there may
have been episodes which I can no longer consciously retrieve.
Insofar as the unilateral initiatives of my superiors are
concerned, I don't think so, the ambience of the event is much
to singular for me to forget one. However, it is possible,
although I have tried to monitor these experiences as
assiduously as I can, that I have forgotten one or more of my
It also seems to me that the
pseudo-physical process of retracting me to my home-world is the
only method available to those responsible, at least there has
been no indication of any other means hitherto employed. And
yet... I must admit that it would be reasonable to infer that
they have some way to keep themselves apprised of my situation.
"Do you have a preference of
To most baldly put it: at least
subconsciously, the compulsion to return is the leitmotiv of my
life; a fact about which I am both rueful and considerably
Alas, I must shortly leave for work and I am unable to continue.
I hope, upon my return this evening, I will be able to resume
and reply at greater length.
In your letter of 8/4/10:57 A.M. you asked for a clarification
of my relationship with those I have dubbed 'superiors' and if I
am implying a more specific subordination. Because they were
responsible for my situation, imprinted and reinforced my
motivation, and claim to possess the means of restoring a
facsimile of my aboriginal life, I have deemed them my superiors
or sponsors. Nothing else is (knowingly) intended. In schematic
terms, it may not be the most fitting but it seems subjectively
the most apt designation.
I really don't remember a single detail about my adult life on
my home-world; and I truly cannot imagine that any aspect of any
of my vocations has the slightest concordance (other than the
sheerly coincidental and trivial) with any professional
attainment upon my fraternal earth. I do however believe that my
vocational interests have been substantially influenced by my
You have asked me to untangle some of the sequential conundrums.
When I was an adult on my home-world that state of being was
regressed to the person that I was (on the fraternal earth) at
the age of six. This 'composite' was then alloyed with my
counterpart on this world; this had to have been done before my
epiphany at the age of eight (now whether this was done one
second or n-years beforehand, I can't say). It is my impression
that I no longer subsist as an adult on my home-world - indeed, if
one could in synchronization observe both worlds at this moment
I don't know what (if any) tangible presence I would have on my
You are correct in your recapitulation of the sequence of
temporal and biological relationships which I was told that
would eventuate upon my restoration. Apparently, the "plan to
retrieve and terminate the mission...." has not yet reached the
phase of implementation.
I must concede that I am not unsympathetic to the reasonableness
of situating my experience within the psychological model of
abuse but it is not entirely satisfactory to me, after all, for
example, a soldiers relationship to his superior officer can be
justly so described but you must acknowledge there is an
extenuating context that undermines the literal accuracy of such
a characterization. Nevertheless, your words bear reflection on
Let me address the remaining portions of you thoughtful e-mail
in the near future.
Dear Starfire Tor,
I am in-between business trips and as I was trying to swim
against the tide of reading my messages before the heat death of
the universe occurs I encountered yours. And to you as well I
hope you will excuse my laggardness in replying.
The reason why I wanted to draw your attention to "The
Electric Connection" by Michael Shallis was
because in the last chapter he applies Rudolf Steiner's
concept of the Ahrimanic principle to the nature of cybernetics.
He asserts that whereas raw electricity is the substantial body
Ahriman (a necessary but
adversarial Spirit insofar as the evolution of the human species
is concerned) the computer (and by implication, I suppose, our
entire electro-mechanical infrastructure) is it's functional
As you might imagine he does not
draw warm and fuzzy inferences from this supposition. Our
computer network is demonically possessed (to imitate a headline
writer for The World Weekly News). So, if your local library has
a copy of this book, a perusal of the last chapter (although the
entire book is worth one's attention) might lead you to some
interesting conjectures about what forces or agencies can
inhabit the Internet, other than the evils of spammers and
trolls of course.
I will respond to the other questions of your letter of the 8th
as soon as I can.
From: "Bruce Walton"
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:13:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Digest Number 192
Whereas the possibility of the dissolution of this
universe/timeline is involved, I suspect that it will not
happen, because of the following fact. Our souls/consciousness
are like grains which gather a "pearl" of third density reality
around it. So if one wants to destroy our reality/timeline then
they will have to destroy our souls, because I believe that
CONSCIOUSNESS is the building block of the various levels of the
The Montauk Project proved just how
much CONSCIOUSNESS comes into play.
In other words, if our world
is a VIRTUAL REALITY matrix, then our collective souls would be
the computer MAINFRAME that programs the virtual reality matrix.
I don't know if you have ever played the computer game DOOM, but
if you are killed in the game all you have to do is to start the
game over, because the monsters in that game cannot destroy the
mainframe itself. I hope that you are able to grasp where I am
Any responses to this idea that, as the Hindus say, we live in
the "world of illusion", and that there is a greater
consciousness/reality beyond, would be welcome.
BRuce AlaN walTON
P.S. Just how does the communication between yourself and those
on your aboriginal timeline occur?
Dear Bruce, Nicky, et al,
A few weeks ago, I received a new communication from my
'contacts' (a woman and two men) on my aboriginal
world/time-line. I wish to take this occasion to impart-for what
it is worth-the following information.
I have, in those posts that the redoubtable Nicky recovered and
consolidated several months ago, written of the alleged
'artificiality' or 'unnaturalness' of this world/time-line. I
have also commented upon the fecund susceptibility of this
cosmos to existential erosion which manifests itself in, and is
stimulated in turn by, literal paranormal phenomena. And how the
resulting ontological contradictions or incompatibilities will
eventually result in the dissolution of this world/time-line. A
perusal of the relevant digests will amplify upon and detail my
Let me direct your attention to those archives.
My handlers told me that what
and others refer to as
the Singularity will trigger
the aforementioned event. A bit of background before you all
bring up your search engine of choice. In the early 90's, the
science fiction writer, Vernor expropriated a term from
astrophysics and applied it to an impending and inexorable
event. According to his - and others - calculations, in the year
2035 (although, in the opinion of the woman in the group, the
year 2025) the ever accelerating climb of the plotted curve of
knowledge and technological implementation of those discoveries
will become vertically ascendent.
That point when the curve becomes
perpendicular Vinge called the Singularity. At that juncture,
the pace of change in innovation will become so rapid and unassimilatible that the world as we knew it becomes unknowable
and unpredictable. Although, believe it or not, there are
groups, such as the transhumanists and the extopians, who
salivate over this liberation from the fetters of history, I'm
afraid the sociological implications are very dire.
As any number of academic specialists in the asundry fields of
personal and collective psychology can tell you, when an
individual or group is under the pressure of the stress of
unsuccessfully trying to adjust to a barrage of unanticipated
changes, they tend to have a nervous breakdown. My liaisons
believe we, on this world/time-line, will be witnessing and/or
experiencing a catastrophic psycho-demographic collapse which
will powerfully intensify the aforementioned attrition of our
Now, let me hasten to clarify, they
aren't asserting that one second after midnight on Jan. 1, 2035
(or whenever) the universe disappears in a puff of smoke-and
then the smoke disappears. It is one of those
a-journey-of-a-thousand-miles-begins-with-a-single-step sort of
things. When the Singularity occurs, the final irrevocable
countdown starts. How long it take to reach zero is ours to
guess. There is a further sub-text to this phenomenon which I
need to address latter.
I just thought that someone might
want a heads-up.