[AC - Alex Collier]
[Q - audience question]
My name is Alex Collier, I want to thank you very much for
coming, this is going to be a very special treat for me.
these small, intimate settings here, these living room types of
things. I am very comfortable and when I am in my element I like
to talk, and I am definitely in the mood for a talk fest. The
information that I shared this morning, I am going to go over it
again, briefly, because I went through it so quickly and some of
you werenít there.
Essentially what we are going to be talking
about is the 22 [extraterrestrial] races. The book that will be
ready this spring is going to be called ďDefending Sacred Ground
II - ET 22Ē.
I have been wanting to do this book for ten years
and now itís time to do it. The reason itís time is that there
is so much going on in our solar system that we all need a score
card. I hope to be able to share the knowledge that has been
shared with me as to who these beings are and how they relate
specifically to earth, to us.
In a nut shell, we are a composite of a lot of different races,
22 to be exact. It is a physiological fact that there are 22
different body types on the planet. And that is the result of
the extraterrestrial races. I cannot share everything that I
have in two hours, because I am sharing the stage tonight with
But I will be around and available, and the
information will be put on the website.
You will have it as soon
as it is done, and proofed and edited. There will be a bound
book version of that, but by then you will already have the
information. If it is something that you want to purchase at
that point to give to friends, it will be available. It will be
for free, none the less.
Iím not going to go into how it all started for me, for thirteen
years I have been telling that story and I refuse to tell that
story any more.
If you want to know, you can go to the website,
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_andromedacom.htm, all the
information is there, including Book One, which you can download
Now, earth history, we are taught a very, very shallow version
of earth history.
We are also taught that we evolved from a
single cell, that essentially we were an accident. All of us are
just an accident. Something happened, something really weird but
yet something miraculous happened to a couple of chimpanzees and ta-da here we are! It should be so simple.
In fact, I like the real version much better than the concocted
What I am going to start with is some of the earth timelines of
history and I am going to blow through specific periods and just
move it through to prove a point. This will be much more
specific in the book.
Earth formation: we will start with the
Precambrian time, 4.5
billion years ago to 554 million years ago.
Earth taught history
The earth is forming, along with other planets in the solar
Earth is being born, life is awakening. The first
tectonic plates are beginning to move. Fungus, plants, animals
and organisms are developing and the atmosphere is becoming
enriched with oxygen.
Andromedan taught history
An ancient race, known as 'the Founders', who the Andromedans and
the Pleiadians believe are an ancient race called
the Paa Tal,
is on an engineering program whereby environments of planets and
terra-forming is being done.
They are doing this to make these
planets and star solar systems suitable and habitable for
organisms and for life, rendering ecosystems that are filled
with hydrogen, oxygen, methane, and ammonia.
some being methane
some being ammonia
These are all gases for the introduction and
colonization of micro-organisms, mantis and all types of life
forms. Self replicating machinery and the bombardment by comets
and planetoids to change the rotation and the chemistry of the
We will get to the self-replicating machinery here in a
The practice and engineering of removing moons to alter a
planetís rotation and moving planets closer and further from
their sunís to either decrease or increase radiation received by
Now I want you to know that that specific
engineering fate of moving planets closer and further away from
the sun, moving moons, adding moons is a practice that is
absolutely in full swing today throughout the galaxy and in
other galaxies. It is solar system building. This happens a lot.
There are races, even the Andromedans, that are capable of
creating a solar system.
All projects, it appears, were designed to enter many star
systems and many planetary bodies habitable for organic life.
Small machines have been discovered that were built so long ago
that no one really knows for sure who built them. They cannot be
replicated and no one knows exactly how they were built.
I will give you an example of the Andromedans.
are approximately 43 to 45 hundred years more advanced than we
are technologically. Thatís in our years. A year for us equals
365 days. This is one rotation around our sun. The Andromedans
count years in a completely different way.
In fact almost all
the extraterrestrials do.
In their concept of age, what they
consider a year is when every cell in their body has been fully
duplicated, replicated. Now if we did that one year would be
equal to seven years in our body.
It takes approximately 34 years for their bodies in our time to
replicate every cell in their body. So it is hard to give you
exact dates of when they say something happened to put it into
our timeline of years. In reality, if I say it was 4 thousand
years ago, itís a lot longer than that.
But they have had a very
hard time explaining to me in our earth time, because they donít
deal with the concept of time. They just donít. Iím giving you
these numbers in earth years just to give you an idea of how
vast our history is.
Amazingly these machines still work. The machines do not have a
name in the English language. They donít even have a symbol that
we could comprehend. It has been explained to me that it is an
anti-matter machine. It creates matter.
It creates atoms which then creates molecules, which then creates physicality. And
these are actual machines.
They are like computers where you can
program it for what you want; and this machine will literally
bring it forth and manifest it, and there it is, physically
If each one of us had one of these machines, it would be like
winning the lottery every day. Mike likes to do VWs. He could
make himself a new VW as soon as the new models came out, as
soon as he knew what he wanted.
I could create a babysitter so
that my wife and I could go out. Apparently there are seven of
these actually working and seven different races have one. These
are archeological finds, discoveries, these atom making
machines, for lack of a better word. There is one here on the
They also discovered advanced building complexes, very large
complete terra forming ecosystems. Earthlike
organic life is much less common than hydrogen gas ecosystems in
our galaxy because we are limited, oxygen (O2) ecosystems, are
limited to the geological presence of water.
For O2 life forms,
which everything is on this planet, there has to be water. The
most precious thing that we have is our ecosystem, our
biosphere. The second most precious thing we have is of course
When we get to Nibiru, our entire planet used to be fresh water.
The oceans were salinated. And it was
system of Bootes that did that because they wanted to control
the water. They salted the sea.
At the time that they did this
there was only 4% fresh water, and they had total control over
it. It took 36 years to completely salinate the oceans. And it
also gave time for all the life forms in the water to adapt very
slowly. But we couldnít drink the water after that.
This is all in our years, that is the only way I will present
this to you; otherwise it will get too confusing. Hydrogen
ecosystems are much more abundant as is methane because they are
not complicated ecosystems. O2 ecosystems are very complex, the
most complex in the galaxy.
Archeological evidence, records and
legends point to the Founders, the Paa Tal, as the creators and
caretakers of this galaxy.
This disappearance and/or extinction
of the Founders appears to be deliberate. And what that means
is, how itís been explained to me, we all know what
disappearance means. To the Andromedans, when they refer to
extinction, if there is no physical record of them on third
density, they are extinct on third density.
That doesnít mean
that they are gone. It could be that
they ascended or evolved to
a higher frequency or they dropped down to a higher frequency to
create third density and when they were done they left. But they
are extinct on third density.
In sharing this particular information that I will be sharing in
the next year it is important to try to stretch yourselves to
think holographically here. There are so many implications to
this information and it is difficult to try to express that
because the English language is so limiting, to try to give you
a concept of how this was all done.
When the Paa Tal apparently left according to the archeological
record, other life forms, sentient life forms, reptilian, human,
plasmic, methane life forms all began to appear; and do appear
in our galaxy in full form. Now just think about that, they
appear in full form.
That means that they came from someplace
else or they were brought from someplace else.
There was no millions and millions of years of evolution into this. And this
is the same problem that our archeologists have on planet earth.
They keep espousing evolution, but there is just no proof of
evolution in the geological, archeological record. There just
Things appear fully formed. Itís amazing stuff.
Now are the Paa Tal archangels, are the Paa Tal the gods?
Nobody know what they are which is why they just refer to them
as 'The Founders,' because they donít know. They donít know.
The Andromedans do say that there is a ďcreation's creatorĒ. They,
in their traditions, say that it does not carry a dominant male
frequency. In their opinion, it carries a dominant female
In their opinion, and I tell you they are real men,
the creator is a goddess. It does exist. So we blew through
The Paleozoic Era, 554 million years ago to 245 million years
ago: a dramatic explosion of diverse, multi-celled animals. They
put that because suddenly everything is there, itís in the
They donít know how it got there, where it
came from, but its there, so they just say,
ďWell, it just
exploded, there it is!Ē
All these different things show up out of nowhere.
appear with all living animals and species appear within a few
million years. Again, there is no evolutionary process here.
They just begin to see them in the archeological record, and
each existing on different parts of our modern continents.
Now at the time that this was happening, the North and South
Pole were different.
The planet was literally lying on its side.
It had already had a pole shift, one of its many pole shifts.
This is where the physical north and south pole rotate usually
following a magnetic pole shift, if it is done on its own.
doesnít do it on its own that is because a planetoid or an
asteroid has hit the planet, made it roll and then what happens
is, the magnetic poles will either correct it over time and make
the planet rotate back, or the magnetic poles will follow. I do
not understand the mechanics of that.
The west coast of North America ran east and west along the
equator. Africa was the South Pole. Suddenly, during this period
245 million years ago, 90% of all marine and animal life becomes
extinct: animal life, not plant and fauna, marine and animal
life. You would think that if something dramatic happened that
everything would be affected.
But that is not what happened. It was mammal and animal life.
The same period, 544 million to 245 million: the ET history, the Andromedan ET history.
Races in the solar system began to
develop space travel. Most are only able to travel within their
own star systems. Some, however, are able to travel outside of
their respective systems and have begun contact and discovery of
The start of trade within Star Systems begins. Trade routes are
established and negotiated. The sharing of technology has begun
and the development of new systems of space travel has also
begun because now the space colonies, the different races that
have been established here that came in fully formed have
figured out how to get off their own planets and now they are
talking to other people getting different perspectives and the
are sharing ideas and sharing opinions.
Iíve not touched on this and I wonít touch on it in this
lecture, but there were also a lot of misunderstandings that
went on here, especially between the hydrogen cultures and the
O2 cultures. And I will explain why there were some
misunderstandings later on when we get into this.
Treaties were forged between star systems and races. One
particular race of sentient beings which was much more advanced
in space travel, set out to explore the galaxy, that is
Alpha Draconian, the Ciakar.
They were the very first, according
to the Andromedans, to actually get off planet. And they were at
the time the most advanced.
They are an incredible raceÖ They just have some incredibly
ridiculous prejudices and biases.
But that doesnít take anything
away from the fact that as a culture they have done some
incredible things and a lot of other races have learned from
them as well. Their space craft, at the time, were hollowed out
moons and planetoids which they refurbished, built out, created
their own internal ecosystems and fitted with propulsion.
of that using fuel, which is not oil like we have here, but it
was some kind of a gel that was mined in their star system. And
they created kinetic energy engines; itís a type of electricity
in my understanding.
Mesozoic Era which is 245 million years ago to 65 million
ĎMesozoicí means middle animals.
It is the time in which the
worldís fauna changed drastically. It didnít change before, but
now suddenly it does. And great change in terrestrial
vegetation. The dinosaurs evolved, well, they show up out of
nowhere, and evolve in the Triassic and then Jurassic Eras, only
then to become extinct.
Another planet hitting asteroid hits the
Earth in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of what
is now known
Now, were they deliberate?
No one seems to know if they were or not.
But what is
interesting is that every time the planet gets hits with an
asteroid or there is a pole shift, there is a radical change in
the Earth or its ecosystem and what happens is, it becomes more
and more friendly for human life.
244 million years ago we just
could not live on this planet.
There were just too many things
out there that would have hurt us.
245 million years ago to 65 million years ago: Many planetary
civilizations have full space travel. Interplanetary trade is
extremely [well] established; the need for natural resources
increases and causes the exploration of the galaxy by advanced
Space travel has been in progress and trade for
over 17 million earth years at this point; 17 million years.
Look at what we have accomplished in 4 thousand years. And we
know we have been held back and we also know that there is
technology that has been hidden from us.
The most well established star races are the Ciakar of
Alpha Draconis or Draco,
the Orion star civilizations and
Vega star system. Colonization is in full swing.
alliances set up rules of colonization and are reaching further
and further out into the galaxy.
So here 245 million years ago
our star brothers, our ancestors, because they are, because we
are the sum total of 22 of these races, our ancestors already
had space travelÖ They were setting up rules of colonization
amongst themselves. It is just amazing to me.
The discovery of space highways; what our scientists theorize to
exist as wormholes. There are space highways. The discovery of
these is made during this period.
To date, 17 have been
discovered in our galaxy alone, 17
wormholes. And for those who
donít know what we are talking about, this is our galaxy [points
to star chart], the little dots are the stars, and what you have
are tunnels that go to different parts of the galaxy.
give you a little example,Ö our scientists theorize that if you
can tap into one you are on the other side of the galaxy in no
time, in a blink. Like the movie ďStargateĒ.
Several of these connect to other galaxies. And we all have to
assume that at least one of these connecting tunnels would be to
the Andromedan Galaxy, which would be over here. So you have a
hole, you have a hole here, now you have a way to get here,
So it is not a situation where you get into
your rocket and by the time you reach you destination everyone
is dead of old age, because the galaxy is huge and it is
expanding all the time.
But as the galaxy expanded many of these tubes of focused time,
thatís the Andromedan perspective of what a wormhole is: tubes
of focused time. I cannot explain it to you any more than that.
I do have some notes that are still stored away in a storage
unit in another state where they have had to be put for safety
and I have not gotten them yet.
In fact there are three boxes of
notes, letís not even go there.
Some of these tubes have snapped, in other words, as the galaxy
expanded, there were breakages in these wormholes, or space
highways. No galactic races to the present time, and this is as
of 11 months ago Earth time, knew how they were built or who
built them and they canít be repaired, because we donít know how
they were built. Nobody knows how they were built.
There is an
assumption by many that the Founders created them. Which is how
they were able to do all of the terra-forming and eco-building
in the galaxy in preparation for life to be introduced here.
There is an assumption that thatís who built it. The truth is we
donít really know for sure. It could have been built by somebody
from before them, we donít know. According to the Andromedans,
third density, as we know it, is 21 billion years old. The
Universe that we know of, which includes all of the dimensions,
is 21 trillion years old in Earth years, which is a staggering
According to the Andromedans only two of the wormholes have not
snapped in our galaxy. So out of the 17, two are still fully
operational. As trade increased, the spread of life forms also
The experimentation of transplanting life forms and
vegetation is in full swing.
Now letís go back to the dates.
245 million to 65 million years ago
Our extraterrestrial ancestors are now transplanting the
vegetation and life forms from other systems to other star
The transplanting of life forms is only with life that
has potential. Now what their actual definition of what that
potential is, I canít tell you because I donít know. But
Moraney (or Moranae) this potential can only develop in complex
ecologies. And by far the most complex ecology or ecosystem in
the galaxy is O2, oxygen based, which is what we are.
complex ecosystems only occur in a relatively small number of
planets in the galaxy.
Now that might be several billion planets, but when you take
into account how many suns and how many actual star systems we
have, it is in fact, a small amount even though to us we would
ďMy God, thereís two hundred billion earths out there?Ē
Thatís a staggering number to us.
But in the big scope of things
it is actually a very small amount, because the hydrogen
ecosystems by far out weigh all the others.
It follows that a complex, planet wide ecosystem is the next
most valuable thing in the Universe to consciousness. Species,
however, come and go. But a truly rich biosphere will endure as
long as it is not compromised. Dinosaurs, birds, fruit trees are
brought to our solar system and transplanted on the three
ecosystems in our solar system.
They are: Earth,
All developed extraterrestrial races have already impressed on
their civilizations that conservation of bio-spheres was and is
simply a necessity. This is 245 million to 65 million years ago.
They were already teaching their children about conservation of
Cainozoic Era: 65 million years ago to present.
We are going
to get through this and then we are going to get really down
into some fun stuff.
Earth Taught History
Sometimes called the age of mammals, because the largest land
animals and mammals show up at this time. It is also called the
age of flowering plants, the age of insects, the age of fish and
the age of birds.
Andromedan Taught History
Our solar system is being visited more and more.
complex ecosystems exist here already, weíve already covered
that. The first full time self-contained bio-sphere, called an
ďEdenĒ, and Iím going to use that word, because thatís what the
Orionís called it, thatís what the Nibiru called it, and thatís
what the Pleiadians called it.
An E-Den, which is like a garden.
Itís a fully transplantable bio-sphere, having everything they
need to exist somewhere else.
We do not really appreciate how smart our ancestors are, because
they donít always travel in very large space craft. But what
they have learned to do is travel light and make sure that
whatever it is they need they have or they can grow. Now,
virtually every mother ship has an internal ecosphere.
the scout craft.
We see the four, the five, the hundred mile craft.
mile craft may have some kind of an ecosphere inside of it
because it has a crew and that crew needs to eat, so they will
create a park-like setting and ecosphere inside those space
craft. Most of the craft that have hit the Earth are just little
If a hundred mile mother ship hit the Earth, we
would have a pole shift and everybody would know about it.
the very large ships... I will give you the example of the Andromedan mothership.
They are complete spheres and on the inside they are complete
worlds unto themselves. In the center of these crafts, and they
may have as many as three, they will have ecosystems, park-like,
as big as 21 miles long. The one that I saw was 21 miles from
one end to the other.
It [the mothership] was 900 miles and for
me to literally see every inch of that ship would take 25 years,
thatís how big it was. It had everything.
In these parks you
could not even tell you were in a space craft, you would think
that you were in a park, Agora Hills California, Rocky Mountain
National Park, Central Park (although I wouldnít necessarily
want to hang out there) but without the crime.
And they are complete unto themselves everything is grown aboard
So, when they come here and they send a team down to
the surface of a planet and they say,
ďOk, we are setting up an Eden, because weíre going to leave a
team of you here to research the plant life, the geology of the
planet, the minerals, what it has.Ē
What they do is they literally dropÖ as many as 12 type
They plant these antennas down into the
ground, at least a mile, into the ground. And when they flip
these things on, they connect. And when they connect they create
a dome, a frequency dome.
And then all they do is they unload the plants, the fruit trees,
everything they need, and this biosphere is exactly to match
their physiology. It doesnít have too much oxygen, it doesnít
have too much carbon, itís exactly what they need. It can even
be hydrogen because then, once they leave they just wear a space
suit and they can go out and do their work.
But when they come
back from doing their work, they come back to their bio-sphere
and itís like living on the home planet.
This is what I am
talking about; this is what an Eden is. This is what
Hoagland has been talking about all those years, with the dome
structures; this is what these things are these things were for,
exactly. Itís good stuff, it gives me the chills!
The very first one was founded in what is now North America,
along what is now known as the New Mexico-Arizona border. And it
was founded by and established by the Ciakar, which are [a]
hydrogen based life form, so they had to have something like
this. Hydrogen is a gas; it is not something we can use.
physiology would not allow us to breathe it and live in an
environment like that.
But hydrogen beings tend to be very
large, a little bit slower in movement, their body frequency,
the rhythms of their bio-system tend to be much slower than O2,
and the one thing about hydrogen based life forms is that they
cannot go faster than the speed of light in space travel.
O2 have been known to go four times the speed of light. Thatís
been a real problem for the hydrogen based beings. In lectures
years ago, I talked about how prejudice is an extraterrestrial
perspective. All the prejudices we have, weíve learned.
formed some of our own, but the initial ďnot liking any of your
own raceĒ was taught to us by these guys millions and millions
of years ago.
This first Eden was created 899,701 earth years ago by the
in New Mexico/Arizona border.
The reptilians still fancy the desert. This bio sphere was first inhabited byÖ the
reptilians civilization is a caste system. It is a monarchy, but
it is also a caste system and you will find that it is
similar to those in England where you have royalty.
You have the officer class, which is your dukes, your earls.
Then you have your peasants who do all the dirty work, who
literally do all the work. It is exactly like that.
According to Moraney, this first bio-sphere was built by the
officer class of reptilian beings and they were the first to
stay here. It was not actual royalty. And something else he
added as an after thought is that they do not experience
Thatís probably why they are all tweaked.
Wars of enforcement
In the human race a war of enforcement is where someone, whether
it is a human race or a reptilian race or a hydrogen breather,
or an oxygen breather or a methane breather or an ammonia
If they cross the line and do something so severe,
they will literally go to war to enforce a punishment, to
enforce something, a restriction, they will do that. What is
going to be happening here in our solar system in the next
couple of years is being classified as a war of enforcement.
It is not a police action; they are coming in to kick butt,
because they have crossed the line. And we are not the only star
system; there are 21 other star systems that are having the
exact same problem that we are having.
They want all regressive presences off our planet and
completely out of here, end of story; they want them out of
If it is true that the moons of Mars are no longer in
orbit around Mars and that they are in fact in orbit around
Earth, then something major is about to happen.
Q: Arenít people seeing them?
AC: Apparently they are, people are taking photographs, and
people are seeing it.
I, myself, have not, but I live too close
to Denver and there are a lot of city lights. But there are
people back east who say they are seeing them, and people in
Europe who are seeing them. The solar eclipse in Turkey, several
years ago, European reporters who were taking pictures, got
pictures of these two objects.
And when they were blown up they
like Phobos and Deimos, following the moon.
They are both space craft, an old hollowed out planetoid
converted with an ecosphere on the inside and propulsion on the
outside. Itís an older model; you can find them on any good used
spacecraft car lot. (Laughter).
According to Moraney, and this
was many years ago before their alleged re-entry into our
atmosphere or gravitational field, Moraney had said that the
last time that Phobos specifically, he didnít mention Deimos,
had entered the Earthís atmosphere or gravitational field is
when the great plague began.
There are all kinds of
records of space craft flying though
space at this time, William Brambly ďThe gods of EdenĒ has it in
his book. They talk about star ships flying through space
dropping the spores. Itís a weeding out.
I want to cover a
couple of other things before I get to the other races.
Dolphins and Whales
In our galaxy they are honored as sentient animals.
brilliant philosophers and poets. And we think they are just
big, dumb fish, but apparently they are absolutely amazing,
amazing mammals. They have the admiration of many of the old
races for their beautiful songs and storytelling. They have
legendary stories of the whale dream, which is the cetacean race
So they tell stories about their lineage, which they
call ďwhale dreamĒ. If the humans of earth make extinct these
species, they will have no standing in the galaxy. (Star Trek).
Some of these writers are clued in. I donít know where they are
getting this stuff, but they are totally dialed. And the same
for dolphins. We donít know their language; itís an extremely
sophisticated language, more sophisticated than the English
language. Itís a trinary language, which is why we donít
understand it, because we are so one-dimensional in our
Whales and dolphins
originated in Cygnus Alpha.
systems which orbit around the central suns of Daneb, Sidar,
Denaia and Alderia are where they come from. The largest
population of whale and dolphin life is right here. Within this
collection of smaller stars are thousands of star systems. They
wanted to migrate, they wanted to explore other worlds, they
wanted to add to the whale dream.
They were brought here millions of years ago and they are
My understanding is that when they birth the young they teach
them the song and the song is the story of their lineage and the
history that they have learned of the home world that they are
Thatís the song that they sing. They are singing the song of the
lineage. Itís one right after the other; they teach them
everything they know. Itís absolutely amazingÖ
Several thousand years later, actually a couple hundred years
later, Orion established an Eden here from the Orion star
In Orion they come from
Betelgeuse, thatís these
systems here [pointing to the Orion Constellation]. The star we
call Rigel, the Orionís name for this planet is ďCyclopisisĒ. In
their tongue, it is called Cyclopisis.
Whenever they go to a formal function of a galactic event where
there are other star races thereÖ the proper way that they
introduce themselves, and this is what the Andromedans do and
apparently itís tradition and it was done and everyone, whether
they are enemies or not have agreed to these specific
introduction traditions so that there are no misunderstandings.
So they have created traditions and everybody does it, no matter
what, this is what they do.
You introduce yourself, you give them your full name, any rank
or office, and the star system that you are from.
Collier, father (I donít have a rank or an office), Sol System,
That is how I would properly introduce myself, so whoever it is
that I am introducing myself to, knows who I am and where I am
If you are an extra-terrestrial, most of them are
telepathic, therefore, they are giving the same information but
as they are giving the information they are also flashing star
maps because that is what is in their head.
And the other races
immediately acknowledge that because they get all that.
Orion established their first Eden in what is now called
ďEuromaniĒ China. The date: 763,132 years ago.
Shortly thereafter Capella, also part of Ursa Major, Ursa Minor,
the Capellans established their first full operational Eden
741,237 years ago and theirs was established at the base of Mt.
Yogan in southern Chile. (Cerro Yogan, one of the highest peaks
on Tierra del Fuego, rises to only 2,469 m - 8,100 ft)
Next are the Vegans (no, this is not a plant-eating race)
[Laughter] they are from Vega, they are also known to us as
the Lyrans, who are literally
our human ancestors.
their first colony 701,655 years ago in North Africa, along what
is now known today as the Libyan/Niger border.
And I want you to know that on an archeological perspective, in
Ethiopia there are absolute amazing things yet to be dug up
there that have been left behind, that the cavemen did not
Next we have
the Cassiopeians: 604,003 years ago. This is an
entirely insectoid sentient race as Algeria North Africa.
Next is ďButeseĒ [spelling uncertain]:
Nibiru as we know them
today. They established their first Eden 585,133 years ago in
Cairo, Egypt. Then Orion sent another team here 87,300 years ago
which was established in Perth, Australia.
The Earth was not in the position that it is laying in now. If
you were to take the planet as it is today and literally lay in
on its side this is where they were colonizing, but these are
the locations that we know today.
Some of the colonies, after they had been here for some time,
they packed up and they left, they got all the information they
But the Earth is in constant flux. Many of these are
hydrogen-based, hydrogen-breathing extra-terrestrial races. So
when they go to their home planets, its dull compared to the
very complex eco-systems that O2, oxygen-breathers have and live
They are extremely fascinated and according to Moraney what they
were trying to do was to not only study the vegetation and life
forms here in oxygen breathing eco-systems but they were also
trying to genetically manipulate them so that they could take
them home and make them hydrogen.
Thatís what a lot of this was
about. This is where they became master geneticists, trying to
convert O2 life forms to hydrogen life forms. Because we are
blessed, oxygen breathers are blessed with very complex,
Lyrans came back 83,400 years ago.
Has anyone ever been
Basque country? Their language, nobody knows where their
language came from; it is an ancient Lyran tongue that has
survived, itís extra-terrestrial. If fact all of them are, but
that one is still really close to the original tongue.
Orion came back again 73,414 years to
Mt. Neblina on the border
of Venezuela and Brazil.
Lemuria is founded as a collective colony.
these races decided,
ďOk, letís just pool our resources.Ē
they moved their Edens to a continent in the Pacific.
Those star nations were:
Well a lot of people are fascinated
with the Pleaidians, well Iím not.
But Iím going to be talking
about them in a little bit. Ursa Minor and Butese [other two
star systems], which is Nibiru (this is 71,933 BC) Lemuria is
established as a collective colony, so now everybody is working
Itís a good sign, however it didnít last.
Atlantis is founded. Somewhere between the
establishment of Lemuria and the establishment of Atlantis the
Pleiadians get pissed off and they leave, a misunderstanding.
They come back to the star system and Atlantis is founded.
It is the Pleiadians again, the Nibiru, Alderbarans, Antariaens,
the Hayades, a group from Sagitarius and the Andromendans make a
With the exception of Nibiru, all of these are
O2's that establish Atlantis. Some of them of Nibiruan tribe are
oxygen breathers because they come from Sirius. But those that
come from Butese are hydrogen.
They can still operate and function as long as they wear a
31,017 BC: Lemuria is
destroyed in war.
27,603 BC: Atlantis is
Q: So in previous time frames that you gave as ďyears agoĒ you
Yes, it was in my notes, I apologize, I take full responsibility
for that, I meant ďBCĒ. I am not going to go into the whos and
the whats and the hows and why they destroyed each other.
Letís talk about the races.
Letís talk about the Ciakar, Alpha Draconis, the ancestral line
of the reptilian races in our galaxy. The Ciakar themselves,
according to legend, do not know exactly where their home system
Thatís how big the Universe is or the galaxies are.
the Andromedans there are a hundred billion galaxies known and
mapped in the known Universe. If we can get a 7/11 franchise in
each galaxy we would have it made, or a coffee shop, even
better, legally addictive stimulants, letís just do that.
I am just going to give you some things about several of the
An absolute amazing race, the oldest known reptilian
race in our galaxy.
They are, in fact, the only genetic line of
their kind that is not extinct. When we talk about that, thatís
extinct, they have found remnants of others that came after but
were extinct. Most of the reptilian civilizations that we know
today, in Butese, Orion, Capella are all genetic manipulated
half breeds of the original Ciakar race.
They stand 18-25 feet tall and can weigh up to 2,500 pounds.
They are like Tyrannosaurus Rex. They are monsters. They have
black leathery brown scale bellies, they have multiple abdomens,
they have whiskers along their chin and jaw line. They have a
mating claw and multiple tongues. Iím going to give you some
very specific information.
They lay eggs and what is called a battle hormone is used to
accelerate the birthing process. They are a duality. This is why
ancestral females did not participate in war, because if they
did, there wouldnít be anybody there to help with the eggs. They
also had to be there to secrete this hormone. I am only sharing
with you what I know about them.
Stronger young females were expected to defeat and kill older
and weaker leaders in ritual combat. The Ciakar race is ruled
and managed by genetic lineage.
Genetic lineage always follows the mother, because you always
know who the mother is, you donít always know who the father is.
In that particular line the gals have all the say.
Ruled by the monarchy of a queen genetic lineage they are one of
the most powerful races in the galaxy. They have some of the
greatest military might that has ever been seen in the galaxy
and most of the clan members are zealots and will do anything
for the glory of their clans, of their lineage.
They have been the chief enemy of all human races in this galaxy
in past conflicts.
Again, we are talking about hydrogen
breathers vs. oxygen breathers. They have three spinal columns.
One spine is located ventrally near the stomach; the other two
are located dorsally on the left and on the right of the Ciakars
Spinal columns join near the dorsal of the geometric center at
the extreme posterior of the trunk to form a long and very
powerful tail. Inside of the hands are claws of the Ciakar are
jelly-like sacks that excrete the various hormones and
substances when the Ciakar is aroused, either for sex or for
The primary purpose of these enzymes is to initiate encrusting
of sperm. [Laughter] There is an amazing amount of life out
there. They look at us and they think we are beasts as well,
Back to The Occult Reptilian Saga
Now, I am going to talk about the Lyrans.
When I am talking about the Lyrans and the human race as a
whole, I am talking about us and our ancestors and all the
ancestors of the ancient Lyran genetic line. Before I even get
to that I am just going to read the first sentence that I have
on humans. The Human Race is unusual in having all of its
memberís races derive from one genetic line.
That is an amazing
Now, letís talk about the Lyrans and then we can talk about the
humans some more. Their skin color is amber, blue and/or red.
The color of the stars in their planetary systems is what caused
their skin tint to change, depending on the frequency and the
UV, ultraviolet scale of their stars. They are of mammalian
They are the only human race to have full empathy senses and
full psionic abilities and have experienced ďquantum probability
Iím still working on what that means [Laughter] you
have to remember these are extraterrestrial races who know all
this stuff. They are also considered today a retired race that
has very little intercourse with other main civilizations.
the past, on Earth, they were known as
They have been known to monitor and provide guidance for some
planetary systems. Some planetary systems today see them as
their protectors and guides. They are worshiped in other words.
What is interesting is that the Lyrans prefer to live on ringed
worlds. They have a preference for it.
On the Andromedan Council
they are known as an elder race, which carries great prestige on
the Council, because extra-terrestrial civilizations, ladies and
gentlemen, really pay close attention to genetic lineage.
Back to Lyssa Royal and Galactic
Now we are going to talk to the human race as a whole, how the
Andromedans see the human race.
The human race is unusual in having all of its member races
derive from one genetic line. This accounts for the remarkable
casual interactions of the great human civilizations, but for
better or for worse, human galactic civilizations, even if they
compose a single clan have diverse evolutionary histories.
Each culture is very different in the way they have evolved. Not
as a species, but as a culture. Misunderstandings and conflicts
have occurred. Traditions exist to minimize the likelihood of
misunderstandings and to lesson the negative consequences of any
miscommunications that might occur.
So they were sentient enough to know that they had to put things
in place to try to minimize human vs. human war. In addition,
the behavior of individuals does reflect on the species and the
clan. This is an Andromedan human race sharing this with us that
the actions of individuals of those races do reflect on the
None are faulted for polite or proper behavior. Informality is
always at risk of being misconstrued or miscommunicated.
traditions of human interaction were developed by the ancestors
over the ages. When an elder race insists that a new
civilization observe traditions; for example: The Andromedans
come down they introduce themselves, they say ďok, boys, itís
time to go to the show.Ē
The show being
the Andromedan Council, we are being asked to be
invited to the Andromedan Council.
What they will do is they
will teach us the tradition, the proper way of introducing
yourself, of acting before all these civilizations because you
will be misinterpreted if you walk in ďYo, man, whaz happeniní?Ē
You will be completely misunderstood. [Laughter]
It helps the young races build a culture that will function well
in galactic civilization, as well as help guarantee that this
young race will become a virtuous and productive member of the
That is exactly Moraneyís verbiage, I took it word for word -
the Galactic Commonwealth.
It is important that all humans be as polite as possible. This
helps both the young and the old cultures because many of the
old cultures are socio-biologically dependent on ritual. They
have become so conditioned that this is just the way you do it.
Their traditions are so deeply embedded that they are not going
We have that same situation here on our planet. And
can be psychologically disturbed by informal and rude behavior.
If the occasion calls for it apologize and then speak only when
spoken to. Never touch a fellow elder race person unless you are
specifically asked to.
That leads me to something I was taught when I was brought on
board and I met other races. This is what the Andromendans do
when they meet another race. And I was taught to teach this to
everyone here which Iíve done, and I am going to do it again.
When you have a contact and you are standing before an
extra-terrestrial or extra-terrestrials you stand yourself
square, you bow, never taking your eyes off of them and you say:
ďIt is the manner and custom
when entering my space that permission be askedĒ.
You say it very clearly, because
what you are doing is you are declaring your sovereignty and you
are declaring your space. Alright, because we are not that well
thought of, so it is important to do something like this.
You have ten seconds to make a good
ďIt is the manner and custom
when entering my space that permission be asked.Ē
We would have to say it verbally.
They would probably respond telepathically.
Q: And if we didnít say that?
AC: There is always the possibility that your space would be
The Greys (Dows)
would, absolutely. But nobody knows to do that.
And besides they wouldnít approach you that way,
they always steal you out of bed because they are little
frigging cowards. No, I donít have any charge on that.
Most human galactic races have three languages and these
difference markers are: formal, informal and differential.
The differential apparently is what is used in a lot of
politics, galactic politics.
The formal is when you are
addressing your own race, like state of the union; it is also
when you are talking to elders. If I am a young Terran and I am
addressing an elder of my race, I am to use the formal.
informal, is informal, ďYo blood, whaz happeniní?Ē [Laughter].
The informal marker is not used ever in public.
Always ask if
both parties are comfortable with the informal language. I would
have to say, ďMike, do you mind if I talk trash?Ē And Mike would
have to say ďSure, man, talk trash.Ē [Laughter]
Then we are both agreed and I can talk trash.
Itís probably a bad exampleÖ
The formal marker is always used in public because you always
want to regard your partner in conversation as worthy of
The prestige of a mature race is always subject to debate.
The first measure of the general rule of prestige is number one
the age of the race.
The second index is the raceís lineage. It all comes back to
The third index is the number and size of the race or the clan
or the tribe. In standard introductions, always include
identification by full name, species name, any relevant titles,
and your home planetary system.
Species name and planetary system, e.g., Sol, Terra 3: because
our star is known as Sol. We are Terra which is third planet
from the sun. If you were in Mars you would say ďSol, Terra 4.Ē
I am going to talk about
the Greys, the Dows; D-O-W is how the Andromedans refer to them.
The Dows are the Reticulums [from the constellation of Zeta
The Andromedan word for this particular race, when tweaked and
converted into English is Dows, they are known as the Dows. They
are a militant race known to be very hostile to humans. Humans
have never been able to successfully negotiate with the Dows. I
am sure that our military wished that they knew about this in
They made agreements, they signed treaties, and the Dows have
never kept one of them, but they are so technologically advanced
that we are having a hell of a time getting rid of themÖ They
are known in the inner circles as a pain in the ass. (Thatís
informal). Most avoid them at all cost. They have little
empathy, if any at all, for human races.
And believe that unworthy species will one day be exterminated.
They have participated in all ďWars of Enforcement.Ē I want you
to hold that thought. We will come back to that.
The original ones are hydrogen. The little ones, who do most of
the dirty work, are of course, just organic clones. They have
been genetically bred to do the dirty work in O2 atmospheres.
They have participated in all the Wars of Enforcement declared
by the reptilian alliances. Humans have also had Wars of
Enforcement, and have been attributed with three accidental
extinctions in the last ten thousand years.
[Audience member asks, who?] The Dows.
Let me read it again. The Greys have participated in all Wars of
Enforcement declared by the reptilian alliances and have been
attributed with three accidental extinctions in the last ten
thousand years. It doesnít say who, so I am not going to say it
was humans because I donít know that.
The fact that they
exterminated a race is enough for me.
They are under investigation for excessive genetic manipulations
of at least two races, your Earth race being one of them.
Ö And something else he added as an after thought is that they
do not experience childhood. Thatís probably why they are all
Hydrogen life beings felt threatened by O2 life forms because O2
life forms have a much faster rhythm. Hydrogen can only travel
at near space light speeds.
They cannot go beyond that. O2ís can
go as fast as 4 times the speed of light. H2ís are much smaller
and slower and more numerous because of a higher frequency of
There is trade between oxygen and hydrogen breathers but very
disastrous wars have been fought between these two civilizations
in the past. The Andromedan Council is held in the star system
of, the constellation of, Andromeda. And it is here at (mi rosh?)
This is where the Andromedan Council is held. This is also where
the star systems of Zenitae (?) exist. This is where the
Andromedan people live.
The Andromedan Council was created to study migration and to try
to limit contact between hydrogen and O2 races and hence, to
stop conflict between the two great orders of organic life.
Communication between the two species at times remains quite
Thatís how it got started.
Q: [Question about talking with hydrogen life forms and should
you talk very slowly]
AC: Yes, you should. And you absolutely want to use the formal,
polite language so that nothing you say is misunderstood.
will know that because they will be wearing some kind of an
apparatus over their nostrils and those nostrils could be almost
anywhere, depending upon the species. If they are wearing a suit
or some type of a helmet, then you can assume that it is
Hydrogen, or Methane, or Ammonia, because if it is an O2, he
will not need that apparatus.
These are just some brief notes and then we are
going to do some questions. They are tough, honorable,
courageous fighters. They build massive ships to environmentally
resemble worlds: comfortable, solid, endurable craft (these are
my own words).
They are model galactic citizens. They are responsible to a
fault. They tell you they are going to do something; they will
do it, even at great cost to themselves.
They are very active in galactic politics and enjoy considerable
influence in galactic institutions. Institutions have been set
up, especially with O2 civilizations.
Those institutions are:
The Institution of Civilized Warfare
Upliftment (they donít use the word ďascensionĒ)
Migrations (which is colonization)
They are very patient, thoughtful and above all, careful.
have been responsible for the official stoppage of hostilities
in many wars and assisted in the withdrawal of all forces that
were in those conflicts.
Upliftment. A lot of people here on Earth in the New Age circles
about ascension, but nobody really knows what the ascension
They know that
there are higher densities and that all of us
are striving to reach a higher frequency in the hopes that we
will move into a more evolved society, become more evolved
ourselves and become more expanded consciousnesses, because
sometimes third density is just too damn hard.
I acknowledge all that. All of that is correct and there is
archeological evidence in the galaxy of races that have actually
changed their frequency and moved to a higher level. That is a
fact, but it is not called ascension.
It is called ďUpliftmentĒ and apparently none of the races that
have done this have done it by themselves. They have always had
someone help them out of the mess they are in; reach down and
basically mentor them to the next level.
Q: Does that mean that they donít have a physical body anymore?
AC: No, they have a physical body; there is physicality in all
the dimensions. There it is. You donít just move up to fourth
density and fifth density and now you are this little cloud
blowing with the breeze; itís not like that at all.
It is as
solid as this, itís just completely different. The physicality
The physicality is much bigger; it is on a much grander scale.
The color spectrum where we live now is 72 different frequencies
of color. Fifth density is 123. There are colors, things that I
have seen that I canít explain. There is just no way, because
there is nothing here to compare it to.
I want to do 15 minutes of questions and then I am going to turn
it over to Mr. [Mike] Russ.
Q: I want to ask about
the Dogons and that whole Sirian thing,
where the Dogon tribe in Africa say they communicated with
AC: They had maps before we even knew that Sirius existed. I am
not aware of that at all, that they have an actual fishtail, no.
Q: You mentioned the Upliftment. Do we know who or if we are
being helped with the Upliftment.
AC: I think that is a definite possibility.
Vasais said to me
once before he crossed over that our specific terran race was
one of the most promising human species that they had seen in a
very long time. Despite all of the other crap, we were one of
the most promising.
However, Iím giving you my own opinion now,
based on what I know, I donít know this as fact.
But, if the Andromedan Council does what they are planning to do
'next year' and try to
remove all regressive extra-terrestrial
presences off the planet and the moon, if they do in fact do
that, Morenay has said that they are planning to just sit up in
space, we will all see them, and just watch us for two to four
years in our time.
What they want to do, is they want to see how
we are going to react with each other when we are not being
Will we, in fact, come together? The point that I made this
morning, was there was a period of 300 years where there was
actually no extra-terrestrial intervention and what happened? We
dusted off the monarchies of Europe and we created the United
State of America. The United States of America, Ladies and
Gentlemen, was never supposed to happen.
It was an accident. It
was never supposed to happen.
The Royal Families of Europe who are connected to the
extra-terrestrial lineages were never supposed to loose control,
never. And once America opened up Pandoraís Box, a lot of people
Because we had all been sick of the tyranny, and we
Q: Is there anything you want to say about shape-shifting, the
Royalty, Draconians, that sort of thing?
AC: I had this conversation earlier as well, with a member of
Does technology exist where
someone can create a holograph around themselves? Yes, the
technology does exist.
Is that technology presently being used
on Earth? The answer to that is no.
Can a person, a regressive
entity take over a human body? The answer to that is absolutely
And the process is actually very simple.
They abduct someone,
they bring him to death very slowly, and the moment his last
breath, his essence, leaves the body, they replace it with
another. Several moments later, that body will rise off the
table, it will be the same physical body, but inside, it has a
completely different agenda, because now it is a different soul.
technology does exist.
Q: Would you call that
AC: Yes, I would.
Q: Would they have the memory of the original body?
AC: Yes, they do.
But my understanding is that there is anywhere
from three to seven months where there is a transition period.
And generally, when it happens to a major figure, they will be
out of the limelight or be very rarely seen, because they are
LetĎs talk about that some more.
The word is: I
saw him turn into a reptilian, I actually saw the reptilian.
Thatís probably very true.
That doesnít mean that they are actually reptilian and they are
using technology to look like human beings. It is a human body.
But you have to remember something. Reptilians are not used to
the extremes of emotions; they donít have emotions like we do.
In fact many of the human races out there donít have the extreme
of emotions that we do. So what happens is that if there is a
situation where the body gets excited, because it is a human
body, that is what is does. It is this huge antenna.
When is gets excited the reptilian soul inside doesnít know how
to act, so he probably either gets frightened, or he gets
alarmed. And when he does that, because they are extremely
powerful souls you see a projection of themselves in their auric
field, you will see it, because they are not used to the
David Icke work).
They donít know how to handle it and that is part of
the transition period.
Thatís what I have been told.
Q: Can an original reptilian have sex with a human being?
AC: Yeah, but no offspring will come of it. If there is
offspring it is because there was a genetic manipulation.
Q: Why would they do it then?
AC: I actually donít know that it actually has been done, but it
can and they do have a phallic.
Q: I have run into that with some people.
AC: Could be. Maybe they have been watching humans do it, they
see the heightened emotion and passion, the rush that we get at
that moment, and they are trying to experience it themselves.
Q: They seem to be attracted to different races on Earth, why,
are they different combinations of this 22 or what?
AC: Yes, they are.
Q: Do you know what aliens are what?
AC: We know some of them. I am not prepared to talk about that
tonight, but we will do it really, really soon.
I promise within
probably 4 weeks, it will be up on the website. Iím extremely
motivated to create a scorecard, so everybody knows who
everybody is; especially if this thing is coming down. We need
to know, or at least the information needs to be available.
Those who want to know will find it.
Q: You donít have to answer this, but are the Caucasians all
from one stream, or are we a mixture as well?
AC: We are a mixture, we all are. We are all a
Heinz 57. With a
moderate to good temperament when we are left alone and not
Q: There is some suggestion that we will take the planet back.
AC: It is going to be handed to us, but what we do with it after
that will be entirely our responsibility.
We will be handed back
the planet, I know for a fact that discussions of a download of
all of humanity has and is being talked about, where everybody
is given exactly the same data of who we are, where we are from,
who these beings were and how we have been manipulated.
They are going to basically say, ok, here is the truth, and I
donít know how many people are going to be able to handle it.
that happens, they have talked about it. I know that there will
be some contact of some sort after the extraction occurs. Then
they are going to withdraw and they are going to watch us.
we will be totally self-responsible for this.
Depending on what it is that we do with each other and with our
own eco-sphere, bio-sphere, if we are not responsible, they are
not going to help us.
Q: That was the galactic debate.
AC: Yes, it is exactly the galactic debate and that is the
compromise they came to. They donít honor themselves, they donít
honor each other, they donít honor their home, what is their
value. That is exactly what was presented. They have been
manipulated from the get-go.
Q: What if it is a few people that take the responsibility, but
not the majority?
AC: Thatís why I am kind of hoping that they are going to do the
download. Because everybody will know and all of us will be
starting on page one. It would be a huge help.
Q: Did you say this is going to happen 'next year'?
AC: The date that they gave me was August 12, 2003. The reason
they have given me that date, that specific day, and I didnít
know about this until a couple years ago, why that date, wasÖ
the Philadelphia Experiment and they sent the Eldridge
through time and they ripped a hole in time?
They created a portal that was never supposed to be there. Some
of the regressive races that are here and have been in other
places in the galaxy were sucked in through that time hole and
they are literally out of their own time.
And the idea is to round them up and literally say, OK, we are
either going to take care of you here and now or you are going
to be allowed to go back through that hole, because it opens on
Q: Is it 60 years?
AC: Yes, so when that hole opens they are going to have the
opportunity to back to their time to where they belong.
is that they will do it and the thought is that they actually
will do it. Once that hole closes there are apparently galactic
races that have been recruited from outside our galaxy who know
how to fix it. And they are already here, apparently, and as
soon as that hole closes they are going to seal it forever so
that it never opens again.
It didnít cause problems just for us; it caused problems for
everybody because it created a bridge between two different
Q: What will we experience on that day?
AC: Thatís a great question. (laughter) Thatís a really, really
great question and I have absolutely no idea. All I can tell you
is that unless I hear otherwise I will be taking that day off of
work. If it has been postponed, I will go to work.
If I havenít
heard any change in the schedule, I will not be going to work
Q: Is there any correlation between this event and the
approaching of Planet X?
AC: That is a great question too.
Planet X: two years ago, and I
am on the record as putting this on the website, a portion of
the Nibiruan Family,
the Enki line, approached the Andromedan
Council and asked for permission to enter our solar system to
retrieve mining equipment and other materials that they had left
behind when they left here.
There was a considerable amount of
The Andromedan civilization itself was staunchly against it
because the Nibiruans are not known for keeping their word.
However, the Andromedan Council itself ruled OK. We will allow
them in. And they are in fact coming. What is coming is not a
planet; it is an intelligently guided planetary size craft. It
can maneuver, it can change direction, it can come and go
anywhere it wants.
It is not in an orbit, like we have been taught.
Q: So it canít hurt us.
AC: It can hurt us, if it comes too close to us. Its field will
cause a lot of problems here.
Q: Is it as big as they say?
The Andromedans have told me of races that have mother
craft from the Andromedan Galaxy that are twice the size of
Jupiter that house over a billion beings on it.
I canít imagine being stuck with the same people.
Let me finish
the Nibiru thing. They are coming, whatís going to happen, I
have no idea.
I can honestly tell you this, though; the Andromedans expect them not to keep their word, to just pick up
their mining materials. Much of that mining material is in the
rings of Saturn for the record.
Exactly what is a regressive? How do they know who is a
regressive extra-terrestrial or hybrid?
The Andromedans monitor;
when they send in their teams to start studying a planet, a
race, for induction, for mentoring, what they do is they monitor
their chains of thoughts.
And it is by their chains of thought
that they can tell who is evolved, whoís regressive, whoís
benevolent, whoís empathetic, etc, etc, by the chains of
They have technology that literally is more than a picture of a
brain wave. Itís like a photocopier. It literally takes a
brainwave and takes a picture of an intent and of a thought. And
if they see a chain of thought that is very regressive, they are
marked and they know exactly where they are and who they are on
They know exactly.
And they are not the only ones;
there are other races that are part of the Council. There are 38
different races in our solar system and just outside of it right
And they are all sharing data and they are just waiting to find
out what is going to happen here.
Q: Like Hitler would be considered a regressive?
AC: He would be considered a regressive, but is he a walk-in? If
he is not a walk-in, he stays; we will have to deal with him. If
he is a walk-in he is out of here, because he is not the birth
Are we all clear on that?
Q: What about
AC: Many of them are walk-ins. But there is one family and I
have been told not to say, because it would get me in a lot of
trouble. But I am going to tell you the circumstances.
one family where the children are birthed of a line and when the
child reaches three years of age the exchange takes place.
This same family is basically used as a carrier. They are not
the actual genetic lineage, but they have been propped up to be
Ďthe genetic lineage.í Do you follow what I am saying?
been propped up to be the actual lineage because that is the
lineage that this particular race has chosen to walk into.
Q: For breeding purposes?
AC: Yes, for breeding purposes, thank you. I didnít want to come
right out and say it because it gives me the creeps.
Q: Some Illuminati will be removed and some will not be removed?
The walk-ins will be removed; the actual alien genetic
beings will be removed. If they are actually true terrans and
they are just sonsí a bitches, we are stuck with them because
that is our race.
The fact that
they have a mental psychosis is
not a problem that the Andromedan Council wants to deal with. We
need to deal with that.
We need to take responsibility for our own race. And again is
goes back to the traditions. The actions of an individual are a
reflection on the clan and the species. And that is what they
There is going to be a big learning curve for us if
this all goes down the way it might go down.
I honestly donít know.
Q: Is there some kind of mark so they know who is regressive?
AC: What kind of a mark?
They donít need a mark, they have their
brain waves, they have their chains of thought. What they do is
they plug it in. They have their own type of satellite machinery
and they plug in this brain wave frequency.
And their computers
which are incredible monitor every move they make. And they are
recording every thought and every action that they make. And
they are recording every thought and every action that they
And they will answer for it.
Q: Do you think that those that are in this room and other rooms
similar that you are talking to that the reason for it is that
we will possibly be there to help with the transition?
AC: I would think so. People are not going to know how to
process the downloads.
Like your devout Jewish people, your
devout Christians, they are going to have a really hard time
transitioning with this information, because
all of their belief
systems are going to implode. And they are going to need to
process this and it is going to be one hell of an interesting
experience for all of us.
Organized religion will be gone, it will be gone in a heartbeat.
Q: Some people listening to you are going to think you are a
AC: I have been told that, but fortunately my wife and my
children donít think so and thatís really all that matters.
are going to see extra-terrestrials, they are going to see very
large space craft, they are going to see hundreds and hundreds
of miles, maybe thousands of miles of mother-ships in the sky.
Are they going to look at me and say, ďI donít really see thatĒ?
And then who is in denial here?
I think that there is a move to really educate people and I
think that there are elements within world government that are
benevolent, that are really trying to solve a very difficult
problem, that are trying to help.
I think that is why
Disclosure Project has been allowed to get off the ground,
because for those of us that have been studying this information
that is the smoking gun.
That whole thing is about the speakers, itís about the guys
telling their stories, itís not about
Stephen Greer. I want to
make that crystal clear. I think Stephen has done everybody a
great service but it is not about him. It is
about the guys on
the tape that are putting it on the line.
My wife and I talk about this stuff at dinner. We have had Mike
[Russ] over to the house several times. We talk about it and the
frustration for us is how do we get this information out there?
Itís hard. All I can do is offer it.
I canít make a living at this, thatís for sure.
Q: Because we believe we have taken the initiative would it be
possible that the Andromedans may want to also include us as
AC: I have been talking to them for 15 years about adding more
people to the list (laughter). My understanding is that many
people in the next several years are going to be contacted.
But depending on the extra-terrestrial lineage that is dominant
in your physicality it will be that clan or that star system
race that will contact you. That is how it is done, itís all
about the lineage. Out there, and it is here, it really is.
This has been a pleasure for me. I get a lot of this off my
chest and my head (maybe the hair will grow back now!)
I just want to say thank you.