October 5, 2001

From Perceval Website

Laura and Ark
Q: (L) October 5th. Today's the day we buried my grandmother in 1984. Hello.
A: Hello dear ones. Listen for help.
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Hailiea.
Q: (L) Where do you transmit through?
A: (L) Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) Are you ready? (A) Yes. (L) [Takes drink] I put a little ice in it to water it down.
A: Slow and easy.
Q: (L) What the whiskey? Take it slow and easy, huh?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) [Takes a sip.] It is very slow and very easy. (A) This is an ordinary question about my state of affairs, about this sleepiness, because once in a while it becomes very strong. There are probably many ingredients for this, yet I would like to know which has the most importance. What about this sleepiness when it's time to do research?
A: "Coil failure."
Q: (A) What coil? Coil failure? Do I have a coil in my brain?
A: Hypothalamus.

[Sitting beneath the cerebral hemispheres are the thalamus and hypothalamus. The thalamus is a relay center between the periphery and the cortex. It receives sensory information from virtually every region of the body, filters all of the information, and then relays the filtered portion to the cerebral cortex. The hypothalamus functions much like the thalamus, but mediates its actions by controlling the release of hormones by the pituitary gland. Its major functions include regulation of body temperature, adjusting heart and respiratory rates, and stimulation and inhibition of eating and drinking.]

Q: What kind of failure?
A: Energy surge causes short circuit.
Q: (A) But this phenomenon sometimes was going on for weeks or months.
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Why is it certain activities keep me awake, and certain others make me sleep?
A: Failure has a genetic basis. [Pause] Push against.
Q: (L) What does pushing against this tendency accomplish?
A: Unlocks DNA.
Q: (L) Anything specific that would be beneficial other than just pushing against it?
A: Aging stumps the brain that is unused.
Q: (L) In other words use it or lose it. (A) But I had exactly the same phenomenon like twenty years ago. Is there anything else that will help, other than pushing against it and forcing it to unlock DNA?
A: Not really you must overcome some things on your own steam.
Q: (L) What will be the benefits once he pushes past this?
A: Faculties jacked up a big step higher.
Q: (L) How long will it last if he struggles with it whenever he needs to sleep? This is my idea but - just struggling against it. That's the only way I can describe it.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I don't think it does any good to walk away from it. If you have to lie down, then struggle while lying down. Take a book with you and battle the sleepiness. If you fall asleep, keep the book handy and the instant you wake up, go back to it. (A) Alright, that confirms what I know. Let's change the subject. Last time we talked, you told us about 1969. Somehow I couldn't find...
A: Hair is key.
Q: (L) Huh? [To A] When did your hair turn white? (A) I have no idea? (L) Did it happen gradually? I think that refers back to the genetic thing. (A) We have this photograph of when I was writing on the blackboard. I still had dark hair. But I had gray hair already when I was in school. So, probably it started turning when I was about 32. I have no idea. (A) Why is hair the key? What kind of key?
A: Gene block activation.
Q: (L) Gene block activation. (A) What does that mean? (L) Is that activated externally or just internally because of the way the genes where set up. Was a gene block activated by something external?
A: Force, yes.
Q: (L) Are there any nutrients or activities that will be beneficial?
A: Spirulina.
Q: (A) Alright, something that is with hair genetics and so on. But that doesn't help with 1969 because I have no idea what kind of key it is. Essentially I was told that I should go back to 1969. I understood that there is a subject I was thinking and working on in 1969, that I have to go back to. I can't find what exactly what subject it was.
A: Go to years before.
Q: (A) In the years before there were certain subjects; one of them was algebras, one of them was indefinite metric and the probabilities. These two subjects were what I was working on at this time. I was also working on these two subjects later on. I was trying to put them together into one subject. When you say 1969 does it mean algebra and indefinite metric?
A: Yes, part of it.
Q: (A) That is only part of it. I have another problem: there is the other part of it which escapes completely my thinking. I cannot think of anything else.
A: Join up to geometry.
Q: (A) Join up means just add to it or what?
A: Partly, but also integrate integers!
Q: (L) What the heck does that mean? (A) Probably it means that integers are important. There is a piece of algebra where you give matrices entries which are integers. And...
A: And...
Q: (A) I think it could help me. At that time I found something that was interesting that relates to integers. I found somebody writing a paper on Lorentz transformation that was made of integers. That is like, if space-time was kind of a grid or lattice. And...
A: Indeed it is.
Q: (A) That could help! Okay, so that would add integers. So now, next thing looking for 1969 algebra, I got this paper by Noyes and another guy. This paper tries to explain Quantum mechanics in terms of negative probabilities and so on. It is 80 pages which are very hard to understand and puts me to sleep in particular. I read a page and understand...
A: Push!
Q: (A) This paper has very interesting keywords like time loops and negative probabilities, Von Neumann, and the question is whether it is worthwhile to invest in this matter, or perhaps it is just crap like 99 %?
A: Push!
Q: (A) Now going back to 1968: I got several books on probability theory.
A: Jump start by finding paper on windows.
Q: (L) What kind of windows?
A: Mathematical.
Q: (A) The only windows that come to my mind are windows produced in chaotic phenomena when you do a simple algorithm. You take a number and you do something to this number - very simple - and you get another number. And you do this simple thing to another number. You repeat this operation, okay? You get a lot of numbers; you plot these numbers. And you say "Oh! It's chaotic! It's everywhere! Complete nothing. Chaos. No regularity. Except: here, I get a window. Numbers which I generate by my algorithm are chaotic except they never fall into this window! And here is another window. Why do we have these funny windows?" You can run the computer, simple program, and you create these windows. So that was one window. IS it this kind of window or a different window?
A: Close enough to get you there.
Q: (A) Why are windows important?
A: You will see.
Q: (A) Certainly because windows are related to algorithms, chaos, population ratios; that will not put me to sleep. I can play with windows. (L) But you had to push on the other thing. (A) Yes, now you. (L) I just wanted to ask whatever happened to Terri Burns?
A: Her hormones triggered a brain swarm.
Q: (A) What does that mean? "Swarm?" (L) Extremely chaotic activity. Like when you knock over a beehive, all the bees come out after you; it's called "swarming." All systems in chaos. Well, my only concern in recent times is the CD Vincent has taken which he has not returned, and what he plans to do with it, considering that there is much personal information there about many people. Is there anything we ought to be aware of or ought to do in regards to that?
A: He will make you famous.
Q: (L) How about infamous? [laughter] That is his intent!
A: No.
Q: (L) Is Terri Burns going to join up forces with Vincent since that's where her hormones are taking her.
A: No.
Q: (L) What's going to happen with Terri?
A: Hospital is final destination.
Q: (L) Is Terri able to control her thinking if she tried?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does she need to be on medication as she has claimed?
A: Maybe part of the time.
Q: (L) Well, anything else we need to know about? Are her girls ok? I am very concerned about them considering the way she just drops them off and leaves them for such extended periods of time. She left them with someone she was telling me was an alcoholic and might even be prone to abusing them. So, are they okay?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I need to know how to deal with Noah.
A: Money will come soon!!!
Q: (L) Why do you keep saying that? Can we have a clue where this money is coming from? Is it going to come before I finish Noah or after?
A: Before.
Q: (A) That's very good, finish the book! [laughter] After tomorrow. (L) I can't it will require a certain period of time. I could do like K** says: you know, you never finish a book, they just take it away from you and give it to the printer. [Laughter] It does have definite shape in my mind and here it must go and how it must end. It's getting there! I still have to rewrite what I lost with the hard drive crash. That was the big chapter leading to the finish. Not only was I going to destroy standard Egyptological dating, I was going to propose the solution. Such as: who was Abraham really? Who was Moses? When did it all really happen and how? I have some answers to propose. But the false foundation has to be torn apart before even doing that, which is what the chapter was about that was lost. So You [C's] are clever you know exactly how much work I have to do yet!
A: Goodbye.

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October 09, 2001

Ark and Laura

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.
Q: And who do we have with us tonight?
A: Leijooa
Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.


[Segment missing from tape...]
A: Listen to Ark.
Q: (A) Well, you see, I had an idea. What I wanted to say, I wanted to have a confirmation that my idea that it is absolutely necessary to do something to get out of the loop, to see from outside, to change the way, to do something active... (L) I've got to finish the book... (A) You are not finishing the book because you are so involved in things. (L) I'm finishing the book, it's getting very close. (A) Very good, what did we do today? (L) Well, today I didn't work on it... (A) Aaaah! Because going outside and away from your desk once in awhile - once maybe in a week - doing something out of the box - it will help. (L) Okay.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I want to know what was the source of this awful feeling I had for two nights. I felt so awful I could hardly stand it. I laid awake last night until four o'clock and I could hardly bear it.
A: Health is harmed by stasis.
Q: (L) You're not answering my question. (A) [Laughs.] (L) So what is going to be the result of this bombing of Afghanistan?
A: Hosed lies.
Q: (L) My brother used to use that word about hard drives. I'm not sure what it meant. I guess it means stripped of something. Stripped lies?
A: Yes.
Q: Are we going to have anymore terrorist attacks in the US?
A: More are likely now in Florida.
Q: Should we sell our house and move?
A: Not yet.
Q: You said that we were going to move to France in 2003. Is that going to be in the early months of 2003?
A: Soon the way gets clear.
Q: Is there something out there working behind the scenes on our behalf?
A: Most likely.
Q: Should I take Grace off the site? It's very personal. But there are so many people who being helped by it. But after all of these activities by Vincent Bridges, I wonder if I ought not to just delete it? They take the simplest truth and twist it into such ugliness - like what is inside them... (A) Should I pay attention and possibly edit these pages?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) K** edited a lot. (A) But she is looking for one thing, and I am looking for another. What else is on your mind that will not let you sleep. Ask. (L) What was making me upset that I was unable to sleep? Was I being psychically attacked by these crazy people?
A: Yes.
Q: If the group acts against these crazy people, will it erect a shield?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) In a sense, you see, I know what we need to do. We need to keep focused and demonstrate that we are able to reach the goal. The help from higher forces only comes to those that can give a guarantee to success. Help is not going to those who are not able to keep going when the going is hard and give no such guarantee. The higher forces are looking for those who give this guarantee. Only if we are absolutely determined to reach the goal, will the help come. We will make it come with determination. (L) Are there any clues we ought to look for when we encounter other people that we don't know about that would help us to avoid getting involved with people like Vincent? I do not ever want to have to deal with such a rabid person again. Aside from the obvious: check people out, which I should have done in this case.
A: No.
Q: (A) This quantum fractals idea I had. I had this idea and it distracts me a little bit, that I should spend a few days creating a web page and doing the calculations with quantum fractals. It distracts me. And I like it. Can you help me? Is it the right thing to do, or should I reject it?
A: Good idea to do what excites you.
Q: (A) It also excites me to look for other ideas that would excite me. So one thing is that it excites me, but there may be other ideas that excite me, and if I am doing this, these other ideas get out of my focus. So, taking into account the fact that we want to make a major breakthrough, what is the way?
A: Riemann and Pauli.
Q: (L) What?! What's Pauli got to do with it? (A) Well, what Pauli has to do with it is due to two reasons: today I was thinking about Pauli because somebody on the physics research group was talking about Dirac operators on a Riemannian manifold and I was thinking: oh! Pauli wrote a paper on this, so I was even looking into the book by Pauli...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, if nothing else, it's telepathic! [Laughter.] (A) My god! Well, okay, so you said Riemann and Pauli, or I said Riemann and Pauli...
A: Drop off signs lost in space.
Q: That's bizarre. "Lost in Space" used to be a TV show.
A: Operators link Riemann to Pauli.
Q: (L) What's an operator? (A) Dirac operators. Dropping off signs: does it mean going to metric which are degenerates?
A: Generates means local operators not heading in the right direction.
Q: (A) Well, we have a funny feature here because of this communication, because what I meant was a technical term "metric degenerate" not generate, and the piece here starts with "generates," which possibly has a meaning but is not answering my question. It relates partly to a certain part of the word which I was using with a different meaning. So, I would still like to know about my question about metric which are degnerate, is this equivalent to jumping signs?
A: From signs you get Riemann.
Q: (L) Huh? (A) Yes, when there are signs. You see, plus or minus, we get Riemann. If there are only plusses or only minuses. We call it pseudo-Riemann if there are several plusses and several minuses. And where there are some zeroes which are neither plusses nor minuses, then we call it degenerate. So, it's true that from signs we get Riemann. But the question is: is dropping signs the same as replacing them with zeroes, or is there a difference? Is it the same?
A: Hearing a symphony is not the same as a radio.
Q: (A) Okay. This concept is new to me. Can you help me about this dropping of signs.
A: Riemann radio.
Q: (L) The other option must be the symphony. Dropping the signs?
A: 6 Signs.
Q: (A) Well, long ago we were talking about signs, and we came to the conclusion that in this hexagon there should be four plusses and two minuses. That's what comes to my mind when we think about six signs. But what does it have to do with dropping of signs? I will have to think about this Riemann and Pauli.
A: Route will be made clear.
Q: (A) Alright. (L) Is there a real mind program like MKULTRA or Puharich or whatever?
A: Yes.
Q: Is Terri Burns mind programmed?
A: Partly.
Q: Is there anything else we should know or do or ask that we haven't thought of?
A: Not now. Sweet dreams!

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October 13, 2001

Ark and Laura, BT

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.
Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Loriea.
Q: And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: My first question: People are talking about, and are concerned about, what is to be the proper attitude, or the proper action - if any - or behavior, or response to the current situation in the world: terrorist activity, the increasing controls of the government, that sort of thing. In other words, they are wanting to know if they should take action, or if they should just observe. Or, should they be guided by their individual situations. People are concerned. Can you respond to these concerns?
A: Most people will not be harmed in direct ways.
Q: If most people will not be harmed in direct ways, does this mean that the idea that the United States may become the target for an all out... (A) Before you ask, "most people" is an imprecise term. "Most people" could be just over half. That leaves a lot of room for "people" being harmed. (L) Can you be more precise?
A: Force will not get out of hand yet.
Q: (A) Which I read as a "negligible number of people will be harmed" in global terms. (L) Is it true that only a negligible number of people will be harmed in the upcoming period?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But, of course, if one is among that "negligible number," it can be up-close and personal. Can you give us - do we dare ask for a number? (A) No, because then we would have to specify the country and work our way through all the details. You see, four thousand is still negligible in global terms. (B) Will the primary harm to people be psychological?
A: Partly but also real strictures.
Q: (L) Do you mean greater control and loss of freedoms? Is this stricture going to be physical, or a stricture on our freedoms, or a combination of both?
A: Both.
Q: (L) Is there going to be a witch hunt in this country for people who the government wishes to identify as being potential terrorists, or anti-American, like the McCarthy era?
A: First there will be controls by laws. Then more force.
Q: (L) Is all of this going to culminate in some plan that is being activated at the present time? Is this all directed to a specific outcome by the powers that be, so to speak?
A: Mostly; but unexpected twists and turns from opposing forces.
Q: (L) And who are these opposing forces? Are there good guys, or is it just like another "gang," as in global gang wars? Using "gangs" metaphorically here.
A: 4th density STO will manifest help for some 3rd Density groups.
Q: (L) Do any of those 3rd density groups that are going to be helped include us? [Laughter.]
A: Close.
Q: (L) BT wants to subtract himself from the question to see if that narrows it down? In other words, do you mean that help will come to Ark and me in particular, excluding others?
A: Same as a group.
Q: (L) See, same thing! Okay, so there are going to be twists and turns. Can we know any of the highlights of these twists and turns in our global or national situation? It sounds like an interesting show? Is it better that we don't know? If the STO forces are planning something, maybe it's better that we don't know so that it remains a surprise. Is that true?
A: Close. Just know that help is near.
Q: (L) I think that BT and I have a question that we discussed earlier. We want to know if Terri Burns and Vincent Bridges have been in cahoots since as early as September 9th and 10th?
A: He was planning. She fell into plans later.
Q: (L) Were they in communication with each other throughout this past month?
A: Yes.
Q: Were they in communication with each other before Terri came here to visit?
A: Yes.
Q: Did Terri come here with the intent of acting on VB's behalf?
A: Yes.
Q: (B) Was she doing it consciously?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, that's not nice. (A) Well, remember, doing something consciously only means part of the consciousness. Another part was playing games. One part of the consciousness can set a goal, and then turn off. (L) Is Terri one of Andrija Puharich's "whiz kids" who were programmed as "agents" many years ago?
A: A different branch.
Q: (L) What is our best response? What response from us will produce the best STO result in the end?
A: Ignore them.
Q: (L) Well, that is what we thought up to the present. Next question: Is the anthrax that has been contracted by several people around our country a terrorist act against our country by foreign terrorists?
A: No.
Q: Where did the Anthrax come from?
A: U.S. government.
Q: (L) That's not very nice. (A) Well, the "U.S. Government" can mean any of many parts that all fight with each other. (L) Okay, when you say "U.S. Government," is that the government that we consider to be our government, or is that the secret government - some maverick branch that is operating without the approval of our elected officials?
A: Latter.
Q: (A) Well, that's imprecise. I am sure that at least one elected official is in on it. Certain questions have more or less known answers. What we know is that it comes from some part of the U.S. government. A maverick part. We don't know, and I don't know if we want to know from which part. (L) Probably not. (A) So, probably when they start to look for tracks of the Anthrax, it will certainly point somewhere abroad - to Afghanistan or somewhere else. (L) Right. That will give the government a reason to go and bomb somebody else. (A) So, is this reasoning correct? (L) Are they going to try to blame it on some foreign element?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, if they are going to try to blame it on some foreign group, can we have any idea of which group?
A: Iraq.
Q: (L) Are we ultimately headed toward bombing Iraq?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Notice however, one complication: groups all over the world, as we are now noticing, have started protests against America. People are going to the streets in Europe to protest. So, in order to avoid this protest, probably America will have to produce some new evidence. Maybe an explosion of anthrax - maybe something completely new. (L) Is that something that is going to happen?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And what might be the next major act of terrorism be that will... (A) It may be somewhere in Europe to convince the European countries. (L) So, whoever is protesting the most is the one that is likely to get hit in some way. (A) But, on the other hand, it may not be easy for America to produce something there, since it is much easier to produce "terrorist" events in America where they have complete control of everything. (L) If they try to do it elsewhere, they are liable to get caught.
A: France may be hit next with nuke.
Q: (L) Well, that's not friendly! (A) Well, that may make sense. There is this connection between the Afghans and Algerians and France. Algeria has already terrorized France in the past, so that may be the set-up. (L) That would certainly get their attention. Is there going to be an outbreak of terrorism on the 31st of this month as has been circulating on the grapevine?
A: Not likely.
Q: This Sollog guy made predictions about a certain series of events a few years ago. He claims that he predicted the plane hitting a big building, followed by the death of the Pope, followed by the death of a sitting American president. If this is true, he did make a "hit" on the "big building," and we certainly have a very aged Pope who is likely to go at any time now. That leaves the question of an American President dying in office. Is there any likelihood of that happening in the next year or two?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Likelihood can be 1 %. (L) Okay, is there a high probability of that?
A: No.
Q: (BT) Well, the thought that went through my mind, in such a scenario, is related to Cheney. Could he be part of the maverick group pulling the strings?
A: Close.
Q: (L) He may not even be conscious of it. I have the idea that most of them aren't. They are just like everyone else: manipulated puppets. (BT) Well, somebody has to be conscious of it, for this faction to be involved. When you were asking the question about Bush, the thought about Cheney just jumped to the fore. (L) Are any of these people in the government, those in the public eye, the decisions makers; are any of them consciously aware that they are furthering the agenda for the STS takeover of the planet? The main players.
A: No.
Q: (L) Bush is just a puppet. He's like Pinnochio. Every time he opens his mouth his nose just gets longer and longer. Pretty soon his nose will be so long he won't be able to walk across the room. (A) In Poland, we had this guy Jaruzelski, who introduced Martial Law. He was a general. Well, my mother was in favor of him because he was military. But I could see through him. (L) Well, it is easy to get upset with Bush until you realize that he is as much a dupe as anyone else. He seems to be going around in a fog. All the jokes that are made about him being so dull are true! How can you get mad at a complete puppet? I've never heard the guy say an intelligent thing that wasn't written down for him, and even then he sometimes manages to screw it up. (A) Yes, it seems so. Because those leaders who have proven NOT to be stupid in the past, have proved to be... (L) ...dead. (A) Or, they proved to be able to kill millions to stay alive. (L) Yup, seems to be so. (A) Yes, they can be stupid in a very intelligent way. (L) Are all of these people going to be exposed, caught, shown for what they are?
A: Ultimately.
Q: (BT) Yeah, and that can be part of the STS program anyway. Expose 'em and replace 'em with something worse. If everybody relies on the government to save us, and then find out that the government is not only not going to save us, but that they are guilty of harming us for manipulation, that is a manipulation of a higher order. (L) Yeah! And then who will the people cry for to be in charge? Aliens? (A) It's a "free" choice. [Laughter.] (L) Well, it's a terrible thing to feel that way about your president who is supposed to be the representative of your country. (A) I'm surprised that some Americans... (L) ...actually believe that he's doing a good job and telling the truth. (A) Yes. (L) I would like to know what is the REAL percentage of Americans who think that Bush is doing a good job. I know they put up the results of polls, but I have observed that polls are often published to sway public opinion, and are not an accurate representation of it. What is the real percentage?
A: 53 %.
Q: (L) Just a little over half. Well, even that figure is depressing. Are we in danger of Anthrax?
A: Most likely not or anything else.
Q: (L) Well, we ordered a micron filter for the air unit just in case! (A) I would like to ask about how this building collapsed and why. There is more and more discussion about it, and theories are flying. (L) Well, let's ask again just to be clear. Were the WTC buildings collapsed by internal sabotage, or simply as a result of being hit by jets?
A: Airplanes.
Q: (L) There was no internal sabotage?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What caused the buildings to collapse?
A: Structural weaknesses.
Q: (L) We watched one film that showed a strange, dark object, shooting down towards the ground. What was that?
A: 4th Density energy surge.
Q: (L) Where was it surging from and to?
A: Dome of destruction energy time lock to ground.
Q: (L) Are you saying that there was a dome of a time lock over this area? Do you mean that they put a "time lock" over this area so that they could "harvest" bodies or energy?
A: Close.
Q: (BT) Was there any other purpose besides harvest?
A: Gathering records, gold, soul extraction, he said.
Q: (L) What does "he said" mean?
A: Journeyman.
Q: (L) Who or what is a "journeyman?"
A: Informant.
Q: (L) So there is a "journeyman" who is the informant from whom you obtained the information regarding the question?
A: 4th Density STO observer.
Q: (L) What did they want the gold for?
A: 4th density uses gold for technology.
Q: (BT) Well, that is in many myths about the "gods" mining gold in antiquity. (L) Were they gathering records in the sense of material objects?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Might these records also have been an extraction of "records" from people as they were dying?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) For what purpose did they intend to use the souls that were extracted?
A: Remolecularization.
Q: What will they used these remolecularized beings for?
A: Insert them back into building to escape and be rescued.
Q: (L) Are you saying that this was an opportunity used as a very traumatic screen event of a mass abduction, so to say?!
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was done to these people who were abducted? Was there a specific reason for a mass abduction?
A: Turn on the programs.
Q: (TB) So, those who "escaped" are very likely programmed individuals turned loose in our society. People with programs set to make them run amok at some point?
A: Close.
Q: (A) Well, we still we have one problem: the problem involvement of Israel. We were worrying about what is going to happen in Israel. At present, all the anger is directed at the United States.
A: America may shift blame.
Q: (A) Well, there was a Russian journalist - a woman - whose husband was known to be Mossad, and they were known to be in Afghanistan and doing something there. Little things are emerging. (L) Okay, I wanted to ask a few things about the egroup. My idea has been that one of the main things that the group ought to be dealing with is how to learn to read when programs are activated around them. There are plenty of groups that can discuss politics and conspiracies and so on, but the real work on the self is quite a bit more difficult. I have been thinking that the most important thing we need to do is learn how to free our energy and increase our frequency thereby. Can you give any guidance about how to best go about this other than what we have already learned or what we are already doing? Any further guidance?
A: Help others to read programs in themselves.
Q: (L) Well, we just had one guy, J**, who had a definite program running. It was pointed out to him numerous times that he was manipulating and running some kind of energy sucking game in the group, and he accused Ark of running a "power program." My thought was that this guy was just simply not there to learn anything. Is that assessment correct?
A: Yes.
Q: Why did he join the group?
A: To subvert and confuse.
Q: (A) That suggests that he joined with a certain mission. The question is, who was pulling his strings?
A: 4th density STS.
Q: (A) Is there, at present, any person in the group who is dangerous for the mission of the group and who should be identified and removed?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Can you help us with suggestions as to what to look for to identify such persons and what kind of action to take? Our idea was to look at responses to our call for help and keep only those who responded... (L) Can we tell by those who responded as to whether or not they are in a true "network mode?"
A: Close. Help is STO.
Q: (L) And STO gives all to those who ask. (A) Well, that means that only about 20 people would be left. (L) Well, there are many who aren't there yet... but have potential. Of course, there were many who didn't respond at all. (A) It seems that those who don't respond must not have enough motivation to participate in the process. They have other cares that take precedence. (L) Okay, well, anything we should have asked that we didn't ask, consider it asked.
A: Patience.
Q: Goodnight.
A: Good night.

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October 31, 2001

Ark and Laura
Q: (L) Hello
A: Hello! My dears
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Hifaa
Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) Well B** has some questions so I'm going to take B**'s questions first. B** asks, Is the concept of Orgone energy as rediscovered by Albert Pike the same as the Odic Force as presented by Baron von Reichenbach?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is understanding the Scottish rite helpful in understanding and using this energy?
A: Not really.
Q: Is orgone the energy used to power the pyramid at Giza?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is orgone the energy used to power Stonehenge?
A: No.
Q: (L) Can orgone energy be used to cure disease?
A: Helps.
Q: (L) Is it the same energy used in the silicon wand that you have previously discussed?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is silicon needed to use orgone energy?
A: No.
Q: (L) Can orgone energy be used to activate the part of the DNA that has been burned away or deactivated by light?
A: Not necessary
Q: (L) Okay, is the geometry of the Elder Futhark alphabet helpful in harnessing orgone energy?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is the orgone energy concept helpful in completing Unified Field Theory?
A: Portal necessary for UFT, orgone is universal.
Q: (L) Is orgone energy the same force that was discovered by the Vril Society to develop propulsion into outer space?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is this Odic Force the same that emanates from crystals as used in Atlantis?
A: No, this has been covered.
Q: (L) Yes I know. Ummm...Did the Egyptians use this force with a metal head band wrapped around the forehead?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is iron necessary to use this energy?
A: No.
Q: (L) Does this force have a positive and negative component to it?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did Einstein acknowledge the concept of orgone energy?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did it help him with his UFT?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did the government use orgone energy in the Philadelphia Experiment?
A: No.
Q: (L) Can orgone energy be used for transportation from one spot on Earth to another?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did the Odic Force originate with the Nephilim?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did the Nephilim intermarry with the Tribe of Benjamin?
A: No.
Q: (L) Since Odic Force is Scandinavian is it involved with Sinclair and Oak Island?
A: Nonsense.
Q: (L) Did the Ark of the Covenant activate the Vril Force?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was it composed of gold and rutilated quartz?
A: No.
Q: (L) He must be reading some strange book to ask these questions. Is the Vril Energy the same as Kundalini?
A: No. Yes it is nonsense.
Q: (L) Ah, B** is off on a tangent. He gets to reading these damn Dan Winter type things and he's just sure that he's found something that's going to work. Alright, enough of that. We've already covered this WTC...Ohhhh! (A) I have a lot of questions about this for shifting. Well go with your question. (L) That's probably where I was going. I was going off to Novosibirtsk. You once made the remark that the secret lies in a mountain pass in Russia and something about a line drawn between Novosibirtsk and Urkutsk. Is there a mountain pass in this area where something important is waiting for us to find it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Now according to these guys who are writing this web page about pole shift, they say it can be predicted where the poles will shift to. Is this in fact the case?
A: No.
Q: (L) Why can't pole shifts be predicted? Can't we know where the new pole will end up?
A: Chaotic function here.
Q: (L) Okay, in a pole shift does the lithosphere of the planet slide on the core? (A) No. We have to be very precise. There are three possible things that would come under the name pole shift. Only one of them may come, or two, or three, okay? And these are the following - the axis of rotation with respect to stars is changing, straightening out for instance; this is one thing; while all the rest goes with the axis, the lithosphere and the magnetic field. Second, the axis stays where it is, maybe it shifts a little bit; the lithosphere stays where it is - maybe it wobbles - but the magnetic field changes: for instance reverses. Third, axis stays, magnetic field stays, but the lithosphere is moving. So that's three ways a pole shift can happen. And of course there are things that come together. The most dramatic one which is seen from outside is when the axis of rotation changes. The next dramatic one is probably when the lithosphere changes. And the third of unknown consequences is when the magnetic pole changes, okay? So, we want to have an understanding what will be the main change. (L) Well I guess we ought to ask an even more basic question: are we looking at a pole shift happening? That's starting at the beginning. (A) Alright. (L) In the next ten years. Is a pole shift possible in the next ten years?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is a pole shift of the axis...(A) Honey, you ask if the pole shift is possible, of course it's possible. But suppose it's almost zero probability? 'Is it possible' is not the right question. 'Is it going to happen?' That's a question. (L) Okay you ask, carry on. (A) Are we looking at a pole shift during the next ten or so years with a high degree of probability?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) In this concept of pole shift, what would be the main feature of this pole shift, of all those which we were discussing?
A: New axial orientation, and magnetic reversal.
Q: (L) That's fairly dramatic. (A) Alright, now, change of axis or orientation of axis of rotation: can we say we would straighten up, getting almost perpendicular to the ecliptic? Or the other possibility is that it will fall down being almost parallel to the ecliptic. The third is that we'll flip completely by 180 degrees. We know it's highly unpredictable, but can we have a clue from which one is, so to say, dominate?
A: Perpendicularity will be restored.
Q: (A) We know the axis will change dramatically and magnetic reversal will happen. You didn't mention a change or shift of the lithosphere alone. Can we...
A: Lithospheric shift will feature to some extent.
Q: (A) But, that means eventually that the equator will almost not change because...
A: Correct.
Q: (A) So it will just shift a little bit, but its not going to go to Hawaii? (L) Oh rats! That was my theory! Well, it was a good idea. (A) What about changes in the lithosphere: can we predict a little bit of change in geography, coming from motions in lithosphere and changes in water level?
A: Chaotic features predominate but in general it will be safer inland and in mountainous areas since less folding occurs in such locations.
Q: (A) Now, the major, the change of the orientation of the axis, what would be the main trigger, force, or activity, or what kind of event will trigger this change of the axis?
A: Cometary bodies.
Q: (L) Are the planets of the solar system going to kind of shift out of their orbits and run amok? Is that a possibility?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Due to cometary orbits alone?
A: Yes. Twin sun also.
Q: (A) When we speak about these cometary bodies, are we speaking about impacts?
A: Some will hit.
Q: (A) What would be - if any - the role played by electric phenomena?
A: Twin sun grounds current flow through entire system setting the "motor" running.
Q: (L) Does this mean that all of the different bodies of the solar system are like parts of some kind of giant machine, and once this electric current flows through them, depending on their positions relative to one another at the time this current flows, that it has some influence on the way the machine runs?
A: Yes, more or less.
Q: (A) I want to ask about this magnetic pole reversal. It's the current theory or understanding of magnetic field of planets in terms of dynamo mechanism, where there is a liquid metal - iron - which is hot - there are convective currents, and there is self-excitation through magnetic field. That's the present model. They were able to model this magnetic pole reversal using this kind of magneto-hydro-dynamics. Is this model essentially correct?
A: Only partly.
Q: (A) What is the main thing that is important, and that is lacking from this model?
A: Crystalline ammonia core.
Q: (A) Everybody thinks that the core is a crystal iron; that's the present thinking. Say it's an ammonia core: is an ammonia core in all planets with magnetic fields? Is this so?
A: From this perspective, no but from the perspective of organic life, yes.
Q: (A) When we speak about crystalline ammonia, do you mean a new kind of crystalline ammonia that is not yet known on Earth to our scientists?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) I think we need to find out something about this crystalline ammonia. (A) What would make it go into the very core? (L) I don't know. We don't know enough about it to even know how to frame a question. I know we thought it was crazy when they were talking about Jupiter and the ammonia, and then of course all this ammonia shows up on Jupiter. And I remember them saying something about this at the time, but I don't think we ever followed up on it because I thought it was even to crazy to think about. Maybe we need to find out something about ammonia, crystalline ammonia. (A) Is there a mini black hole in the center of the Earth?
A: No.
Q: (L) I remember when I was a kid - this is a funny thing - we got this kind of chemistry experiment. You put these chemicals together and it grew crystals. I think ammonia was part of it. I think you had to use ammonia to grow crystals. (A) Okay, now this crystalline ammonia core inside the Earth, can we have idea how big it is, what radius?
A: 300 km.
Q: (L) What is surrounding it, what is the next layer? (A) Normally people would say it's an iron crystal. What is the next layer?
A: Correct.
Q: (A) There is this ammonia - crystalline... (L) Surrounded by iron crystal. Is it crystal iron? (A) Probably at this pressure that is here, it may very well be crystal. (L) Okay, is the iron surrounding the ammonia, is it crystalline?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What's the next layer?
A: Molten iron.
Q: (A) Okay, now we know that some planets have this crystalline ammonia, and some do not. When we consider planets that have this crystal ammonia inside, how did it get there? Was it a kernel first around which the planet was formed, or first the planet was formed and then during some processes the ammonia sank and crystallized inside? I would like to know how it got there?
A: It is the natural formation process for ammonia to accrete iron from supernovae.
Q: (L) I read somewhere - about supernovae - that the only reason we have iron is because it's produced in supernovas. That would mean that our solar system is formed from a supernova, right? In which case what blew up and when? (A) I understand that this crystalline ammonia core - 300 km radius - must have certain magnetic properties which are important. Because it was mentioned that it was lacking in dynamo theory or certain very important properties concerning heat convection. So there are these two main things in dynamo theory - conductivity and electric properties - on the other hand heat convection properties. Why is this ammonia important for the magnetic field because of what properties?
A: Super conducting.
Q: (A) According to what we know it's very hot inside the earth because of the pressure. Now, is this ammonia also hot, as much as iron?
A: Grows alternately cold and hot.
Q: (A) Is it super conducting even if when it is very hot?
A: No.
Q: (A) When it gets cold, how cold does it get?
A: 55 degrees below absolute zero.
Q: (L) What is absolute zero? (A) That is something you can't get below. That's why it's called absolute zero. It's a new thermo-dynamics. (L) How often does it alternate?
A: Close to hour long periods.
Q: (L) So when it gets so cold and becomes super conducting, the act of super-conducting is what heats it up? Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well once it heats up, how does it then get cold again?
A: It stops conducting.
Q: (L) What is it conducting? When something is super conducting what does it conduct?
A: Electrons.
Q: (A) The point is, you see, that when something is super conducting it offers no resistance. Which means that the current it flows through it, is not heating it. Well we learned that it gets hot because it's super conductive, right? Which is somewhat contradictory because when it is super-conducting there's no reason for it to be hot except it can become hot because there is the hot external shell of iron. So that is very likely why it would become hot. Because by the very definition of super conductivity you don't become hot when you conduct, see? Well, if there are big, very big currents, then okay, they can stop super conductivity, then it gets warm.
A: Currents of this nature set the surrounding iron to vibrating which produces heat, not heat produced by the current.
Q: (A) Now, I want to go back to this 55 degree below absolute zero. And here I would like to have a confirmation of this 55 degree below zero. Because. according to the current knowledge of physics, the absolute zero was set by definition, as the temperature on the scale, according to the science of thermo-dynamics, which is - so to say - nothing moves so you cannot go below this temperature. If you say 55 degrees below zero it means we have to redo physics and redo thermo-dynamics.
A: You have entered a different realm.
Q: (A) What?
A: Lack of movement as measured by physics is based upon 3rd density conventions.
Q: (A) What causes this appearance of new physics in the center of the planet? We do not see this need for new physics around us. But somehow there are specific conditions, apparently, in the center of the planet that cause necessity of entering this new physics.
A: Windows.
Q: (L) Let me ask this, if it was possible to measure a temperature of something that was being subjected to a very intense electro-magnetic field what would it show? (A) Well the question is different, you see, because we asked first about why there is this ammonia crystal inside, okay? The answer was it was a natural process. But now we see there is this window inside. What is the reason that there is this window inside? Now you suggest, honey, that the widow inside is because there are - or because who knows what causes what - but there are very strong electro-magnetic fields. Is the window inside related to the fact that we have to go beyond standard physics? Is it related to the fact that there are very strong electro-magnetic field inside?
A: Reciprocal function.
Q: (L) What is ammonia composed of? (A) Ammonia? NH3, one nitrogen and three hydrogen atoms, and it kind of rotates, and that's ammonia. (A) What is nitrogen number? Six? Or seven? Seven is phosphorus, yeah? (L) I don't know, I don't remember, I'm too tired to remember. (A) You're too tired.
Q: (L) Okay, anything else we can think of we ought to ask before we...is there going to be any kind of terrorist attacks tonight or tomorrow?
A: Not likely.
Q: Are there going to be any further terrorist attacks in the United States?
A: Possible but not probable.
Q: (L) What is the next...can you give us clues about the next major significant event in our lives?
A: Light will break in a big way.
Q: (L) Well that's pretty amorphous. What kind of...(A) Lightning strike? (L) Yeah, are we going to get another lightning strike (laughter)? Alright, well, anything that we should've asked that we didn't ask?
A: Love one another.
Q: (L) Well, that was kind of...okay, I'm too tired. Good night, thank you.
A: Goodbye

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November 29, 2001

Ark, Laura
Q: Hello.
A: Hello beloved ones.
Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Mother Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) Well, that was strange. [Laughter.] (L) My first question is: have we been dealing with the Bridges situation optimally?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What could we add to what we are doing, or stop doing, that would optimize the situation for us?
A: He wants your energy for his spells.
Q: (L) So, how do we cut off any energy?
A: First do not respond to his rants.
Q: (A) I have a practical question. You say "do not respond." Should we keep the report pages the way they are, or should we remove them to archives?
A: Keep and update as necessary but no response to him or anything he writes in any forum where a personal link can be established.
Q: (L) So, only address our responses to the public and never establish the dynamic link by addressing him directly.
A: Close.
Q: (L) What would make it more accurate?
A: Personal response forums creates psychic linking.
Q: (L) Does he have an attorney as he claims?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, he claims he is planning to sue us. Is he?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he planning to escalate his attacks?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Would it be better if we just allowed him to escalate with no response at all?
A: Mostly. If nothing works publishing comes out.
Q: (L) I would just like to know what will be the ultimate outcome of this whole situation because I am just tired of it; I am sick of it; I would just like for this guy to disappear from the face of the earth. I would like to know how to make him go away. Tell me how to make him just shut up and go away. Let him say and do what he wants all his life, but never speak our names again. We just want him to leave us alone. How can we do that?
A: He has his free will.
Q: (L) Well, I just want to know what is going to be the outcome. (A) Honey, you should not ask that. The outcome will depend on what we will do. It depends on us. (L) Look! [Cat suddenly jumps into the middle of the table, dog begins to bark.] (A) Cassiopaeans! He hears Cassiopaeans! (L) Does kitty want out?
A: Food.
Q: [Laughter. Stop to feed cat.] (L) My next question is, of course, what is wrong with Vincent? What is driving him?
A: He is a robotoid.
Q: (L) Who did his programming?
A: 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Doesn't that contradict him having his free will?
A: No. Even robots have minimal consciousness.
Q: (L) So, all his whining and all his "poor pitiful me" stuff is just a program?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) That explains, I guess, why he doesn't seem to learn from anything. Even a dog would have figured it out by now.
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Whine on no matter what! (L) That means that there is no hope of anything stopping his vicious, mindless lies and attacks. He will go on and on like a robot, right to his own destruction? (A) Yes, there is a hope of stopping him. (L) Yeah, when his circuits burn out. (A) No, no, no. You have a robot; it is working; robots work on a current. When it is working, it gets energy. If the program no longer works, the energy is stopped, then he must look for some other energy source. So, if nobody feeds him, sooner or later another program will switch on that says "look for new energy source." But looking for a new energy source implies being hungry for the period until you find another. So, its not so easy to switch that program. (L) Is there any trick to divert the intention of the robot?
A: Give it a little time.
Q: (A) I want to ask about this association with S** T** which I am not really supportive of. Should we continue giving S*** information about Vincent?
A: Probably he will help to stop Vincent.
Q: (A) Is there any danger in doing that?
A: Not as you are doing.
Q: (L) Anything else about this situation that we ought to know at the present moment?
A: He is loaded so let him sue!
Q: (L) Well, he says that he is losing his house...
A: Baloney.
Q: Well, you know they can't be on the verge of losing their house if they can afford to file more motions. Anything else about the situation?
A: Just be patient.
Q: As far as I have written it, the first half of Noah is pretty finished. Can you tell me if - as it is written - it presents an accurate set of options or perceptions of the subjects covered.
A: Yes.
Q: Are there any items I need to add that I haven't included? Any subjects?
A: Just finish.
Q: Alright already. Are we heading toward a macrocosmic quantum jump, including a collapse of the wave, and the dissolution of matter, even if only temporarily as I have proposed in Noah?
A: Close.
Q: What could get me closer to the exact idea?
A: Matter is, in macrocosmic terms, somewhat different than you suppose.
Q: What do you mean by that? Matter in terms of stars and solar systems? It is what?
A: How about "larger."
Q: So, when we think of matter as being atoms and molecules, solar system and cosmic matter is composed of larger units?
A: Yes.
Q: What are the smallest of these larger units?
A: Living things.
Q: (A) Living things extending through densities?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Wait. Are there beings composed of stars like we are composed of atoms?
A: In a certain sense, yes.
Q: (A) So, larger, we added living things as not just built of matter, but as units of matter.
A: Yes.
Q: In other words, when an event occurs, as in a "measurement," or a "change," in terms of macrocosmic quantum changes, it is like a phase transition of a certain collection of matter units in terms of living beings? Living beings as whole units, can "survive," so to say. I have in mind that it's almost like a decision in your life. When you make a decision, it's like a shift in your consciousness. And when you are looking at a macrocosmic quantum transition, it's almost like a decision, in a sense. And on one side of it, you come to that moment, and you make the decision, and on the other side of that moment - which, in a certain sense, the moment of measurement is immeasurable - and on the other side of it, everything is different. Not only is it so, that on the other side of the measurement is everything different, like with an atom, when an event occurs, something is gained or lost, or has moved its position or momentum or something, some significant difference exists in the state of the atom after this moment of measurement. And this significant difference is what I am trying to get at. (A) Probably what you have in mind is something like "transiting to 4th density, what really happens?" (L) Yeah.
A: "Happens" is not quite the proper term, more like "becomes."
Q: (A) Becoming is creating something completely new. "Happen" means that things change, move, regroup. But "become" means…
A: Yes.
Q: Is there anything that we are supposed to do regarding this upcoming transition?
A: Yes.
Q: Can we know what it is?
A: Not yet!
Q: Is there anything we ought to be doing to prepare ourselves that we are not doing?
A: A little more attention to physical energy levels would be helpful.
Q: Which of course, suggests that physical energy is important and will be needed in some way.
A: Remember to utilize alfalfa with spirulina.
Q: [tape ended, restarted]…B*** from the egroup wrote about an event where her son was in a near fatal accident and she had some kind of experience where she was interacting with a number of beings who were "clicking" or "cliqueing" or whatever. She wanted to know what this was. It happened just before the accident.
A: She was conferencing with alternate selves of herself and others including her son.
Q: Was it because of this impending event? Was it discussions and making of decisions?
A: Yes, it was a possible check-out point for the son but he decided to add other elements to his karmic shopping list so to speak.
Q: Gee. Is Karma like going to the store? "I'll have two lessons of those, and five of that one over there! I need a dozen of these!" What a thought! A "karmic shopping list?" Well, I would ask about the current situation, but then Vincent Bridges will go on another rant claiming that all we do is sit around asking about ways to make money.
A: He is a robot.
Q: So, he says only what he is programmed to say and does only what he is programmed to do?
A: Yes.
Q: What is the purpose of his program? What is it designed to do?
A: Break your will to continue.
Q: Was this always his plan, or did something change when he was here in July? Did we select a different universe at that point? Or did he refuse to move out of the one he was in and merge with ours?
A: It was always the plan to either coopt you for the use of dark forces, or destroy your work and will.
Q: What happened in July? Everything changed then.
A: He was exposed by you/us.
A: She is exaggerating somewhat. Not a reliable source.
Q: (A) Well, throughout this Vincent Bridges business, I have been completely concentrated on doing many things that would strengthen our position. Essentially taking care of all the correspondence, and so on. It took a lot of time. The question is: what should I do now? (L) Where did you leave off? (A) Well, I have this Rodriguez business..
A: Get back on track with UFT.
Q: (A) Next year, there are two conferences to which I have been invited. Blanchard is organizing one in Bielefeld, and then there is this conference in Tennessee on Clifford Algebras. Should I be serious about going to these conferences?
A: Certainly you should go!
Q: (L) We would like to have just one piece of good news to cheer us up. All it has been for a long time is work, work, work and being abused and defamed and dealing with horrible people. Work and abuse, work and abuse. I have gotten to the point a number of times where I have thought: "I don't want to do this anymore." Yes, I know that it is designed to do that to me and I fight it. But it would be so nice to disappear back into a normal life and forget about all these people like Bridges and Burns and Williams. The only thing that makes me able to go on is that I do what I do for the people who are asking.
A: Help is on the way.
Q: Well, if Vincent Bridges was sitting here asking you what you wanted to say to him, what would you say?
A: Get a life you robotoid sloozer.
Q: What is a "sloozer?"
A: Sloozer is a slow loser.
Q: Alright. Let's say good night.
A: Good night.

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December19, 2001

Ark, Laura, BT

Q: (L) Hello
A: Hello.
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Giollia.
Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: (A) First question, I want to know what is the reason why the server in Amsterdam crashes?
A: Attack through owner.
Q: (A) Through owner?
A: Not consciously.
Q: (A) Is it advisable to choose a different server?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Is it advisable to choose...or, would the choice of the server in Canada be right in perspective?
A: Up to you to decide.
Q: (L) Why don't you list your top choices and ask which of them are better than the others? (A) Yes. At the present we have between a server in Canada and a server in Hong Kong. And I don't know which one is better in terms of future attacks, preventing future attacks.
A: Attacks will come anyway so choose based on instincts regarding overall features.
Q: (A) Convincing, right? (L) So just choose one that seems to be set up to fix things. (A) Okay. (L) That seems to be the primary feature that we need. somebody's who ready, willing, and able to fix it and keep it on line. (A) Okay. (B) Or not prone to shut you down at the first sign of panic. (A) Yeah. (L) Okay, next. (A) What was the reason or the mechanism behind the recent melt down?
A: Cleansing action.
Q: (B) Is that a personal cleansing action for you guys or a cleansing action for the group?
A: Both will benefit.
Q: (L) Now in looking back over the dynamic of the past few months, we realize that we've been subjected to a major group of agents attempting to--a.) infiltrate b.) take over c.) destroy d.) discredit.
A: First three and last is impromptu plan b.
Q: (L) So they didn't want to destroy because they wanted to use. (A) Uhhuh. (L) Okay is Terri a conscious agent?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is JoJo Doyle?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is Olga AKA Athena AKA Starwind or whatever?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is Vincent?
A: No.
Q: (L) So Terri is the only conscious one. (A) Indeed they are puppets. (L) Hmmm, that's pretty interesting. What happened to M**?
A: Abducted and suffering PTSD.
Q: (L) So did we do the right thing by removing him from the group?
A: Absolutely!
Q: (L) That Terri is a conscious agent in all this...well (A) As far as I can see the next person that will be activated and removed is B***. Who is she?
A: Programmed human as are all others. In her case it is more severe and less amenable to change. You have to "get it" to get it.
Q: (L) Until you "get it" you don't get it. (A) They address that to whom? (L) Human beings in general. (B) In her case it's more severe and less amenable to change. (L) She can't get it. Until she can get the concept...(B) Well the program is keeping her from getting the concept. (A) Is it, am I right when I say that we should close the group? Close it to the public?
A: Yes but with modifications regarding participation as outlined already.
Q: (A) What kind of modifications? (B) Are they referring to the modifications you were discussing earlier this evening as opposed to something they talked about? (L) I think so, right. (A) What modifications? (B) Pull back on personal involvement at so great a level. Let others handle most of the group work.
A: Yes
Q: (A) That we pull back? (L) Yeah, on personal participation. (A) Oh. Alright now, last time, two days ago, we were doing the I Ching and the I Ching came with something that we should not be anymore kind of forgiving and forgetting the criminals, something like that, which I read that we should not pursue VB anymore and move to other subjects as they appear. (L) In other words don't interact directly with him anymore. (A) No, don't even investigate him and don't put anymore on the site about him that...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Should we take down from the site what we have about him?
A: Better not set such a precedent.
Q: (A) I don't think we have any question about *?*, this goes by itself and it is kind of an interesting adventure to interact with him and see what happens, right? I don't see any danger except that when*?* comes on the horizon in some way we may have to take decisions what to do and there will be some kind of participation of us needed. It is not urgent so we can skip it, I guess. (L) We want to know if it is an advisable thing for us to obtain a self defense object such as a gun?
A: Not necessary as neither of you could use it anyway.
Q: (B) How about a zapper? (L) Yeah, how about a cattle prod?
A: Maybe. Or pepper spray.
Q: (L) Are we in any kind of physical danger? (A) Always
A: Yes but knowledge protects.
Q: (L) I mean could you shoot somebody? (A) You mean with a gun? No. (L) I couldn't either, I mean it would be just like what would we do, wave it around? I mean if we had one of those that when you shoot it a little flag comes out and says Bang! (laughter). (A) No in fact you see we are not, it would be so easy to provoke us to use it and then we would not recover. (L) Yeah. It would kill us. (B) It would certainly disrupt things. (L) Understatement. (B) Did D** actually see some sort of rip in the sky as she thought?
A: Lots of those lately, eh?
Q: (L) Is that what they're doing all these chem trails for to put some kind of substance in the sky that has some kind of electromagnetic effect or something that holds the illusion in place?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Does it also have some kind of chemical affect on our brains or on our physiology?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) I don't understand. Okay are there things in these so-called chem trails that somebody's putting up there to, to do what? To...(B) Keep the matrix in place for the illusion? (L) Umhmm. Okay. As it stands in it's almost completed state just how important is Noah?
A: Extremely!!!
Q: (L) Did we go with the right publishing company?
A: Good enough.
Q: (L) How is Grace going to do?
A: Great Gracie! Good night Gracie.

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