January 20, 1996
Freddie, Laura, PZ, PkZ, SZ, SV, AM, W, etc.
Q: (L) Hello. We have a lot of guests tonight!
A: Hello. No need to direct traffic.
Q: (L) What name shall we use tonight?
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
Q: (L) AM is here tonight with her aura camera. Is it possible to
picture of us while channeling, and will anything show up?
A: Try it and see.
Q: (L) We certainly will, but we want to ask a question before we
get started on that. There are rumors out that Betelgeuse has gone
supernova and it can be seen with a telescope, but not yet with the
naked eye. When did this occur?
A: You better check the data.
Q: (L) Okay. Is this going to have any effect on us?
Q: (L) Is it going to have any effect on us in an ethereal sense?
Q: (L) Is it just something that has happened that is going to be
interesting to look at?
Q: (L) We are going to take a little break and let AM set up the
camera. [Camera is set up, metal plates are arranged so that L puts
right hand on one and F puts left hand on one, and their other hands
are kept on the planchette.] (L) Hi, guys! What do you think of all
A: Yes, neat!
Q: [Preparations being made for aura photos. L and F draped in black
cloth.] (S) Laura, you have something stuck in your hair!
(F) It’s a
(S) She’s always got things stuck in her hair. No telling what
else is in there!
(P) Yeah. It’s pretty wild tonight. You look like
(L) Well, you people are so nice tonight!
Q: [Laughter.] (L) Okay, everybody... settle down! We had some plans
for questions tonight.
Q: (L) Yes, does anybody remember the questions? Where is the list?
W, ask a question because I just went blank! [Laughter]
A: Ask W. [Laughter]
Q: (L) We were curious as to what was photographed by AM and S when
they were in Central America? There was some fuzzy image on the
photo. Chichen Itza, I believe.
A: Aural imprints.
Q: (L) Of what? [Aura photo taken of F]
A: Representations in zero space/time of members of “Quan” sect of
spiritualists who vacated the body simultaneously.
Q: (W) Well, I am
just coming in in the middle and I don’t know what has been asked
before. Who is the most likely candidate to be elected president
A: Well, this is not of great importance, as the president does not
decisions, but it is likely to be Dole, as the points are aligning
now. But, there is a lot to be seen between now and then. Future is
Q: (AM) Let me move the camera around, I want to get one of L
(S) Look at F’s photo. It looks like there is a hand around his
(F) It doesn’t look like anything to me.
(AM) I am going to try
to get one of the middle of the board where their hands are.
Guys! Are you here and ready for a mug shot?
Q: (AM) Take a deep breath and hold... [aura photo of L is taken]
(L) [looking at aura photo of self] This is very strange, guys. How
come I am not in this picture and F shows up in his? Why have I
A: Learning builds spiritual growth, and awareness “solidifies”
Q: (L) Okay, guys, smile for the camera! [Aura photo of board is
taken with L’s and F’s fingers on planchette.] (L) Okay, but that
does not explain why I disappeared.
A: Because the energy field enclosure was unifying you with the
conduit, as is
usual during channeling sessions between 3rd and 6th density level
Q: [Photo of board develops, and geometric figure appears to sounds
of amazement from group] (L) What is this geometric figure?
A: Was a visual representation of the conduit, indeed!!! The reason
clear luminescence is that thought centers were clear and open in
you at the moment of the photograph. In other words, there was an
imbalance of energy coming from 6th density transmission point. So,
what you are viewing is 100 per cent pure light energy of
uncorrupted knowledge transmitted through you. This has never been
seen in 3rd density ever before. You do not completely realize the
ramifications of this yet, but you will. We have made history here
[Break while more individual aura photos are taken. When finished,
AM and W pack equipment and depart. Discussion of grammar.]
Q: (L) I
would like you to comment on our discussion on grammar. Does
acquiring knowledge in a spiritual sense assist in the development
of knowledge in other areas, such as communication?
A: Correctness in all areas, as agreed upon by convention, can only
help or improve or strengthen all processes.
Q: (P) I would like to know what I can do to improve my memory?
A: You have sleep disorders that are “short circuiting what would
utterly spectacular psychic and mental abilities. When you were very
young, your senses were 10 times sharper. But then, the
Q: (P) That is absolutely true. I have had a
sleep problem for years.
(L) Is there anything P can do to overcome
this? Physically or otherwise?
A: Cleansing of a very intensive nature; hypnotic regression; spirit
dietary adjustments. Also, stress inducing life circumstances of a
very “ordinary” nature must all be deviated! Ordinary, in this
instance, means not of an ethereal nature directly.
Q: (P) Well, I have taken several steps in that direction.
A: Some, but it is like putting a “bandaid” on a gunshot wound.
Q: (P) What is the implant I have made of?
A: Silicon based micron definitive construct.
Q: (P) Is this why I have this scar?
A: Scar is manifestation of scar in being.
Q: (S) I have been having some serious problems with joint pain in
my fingers and I would like to know what to do to make this better
because I think that taking pain pills is something that hides the
symptoms and does nothing for the cause.
A: Not true, S, sometimes pain killers cure cause as well as
symptom. This is
simply reversal of therapy. The symptom dies, thus cutting off the
energy flow of the causative problem. Then the root cause dies if
its “fuel supply” is interrupted for an adequate duration.
Q: (L) Will this work on me?
A: You need to utilize herbal therapies and nerve or neural blocking
such as self hypnosis and Reiki and acupuncture.
Q: (L) Well, I have been having a HORRIBLE pain in my leg that makes
me unable to walk without a cane. What is causing this pain?
A: Tissue nodular grains passing through vascular region affected by
thrombosis. Try nutragina and roots of water based plants such as
spirulina, for starters.
Q: (L) Isn’t neutrogina a soap?
A: Base is edible and topical.
Q: (L) Anything else on that?
Q: (L) Where do I get that?
A: Leafy green vegetables.
Q: (L) P has been having almost an identical pain in HER leg, is it
a similar condition?
A: Psychological pressures register in the physical. When acute
pressures are evident.
Q: (L) (P) When is this acute pressure going to end?
A: Open. We recommend ginseng and gaurana also for herbal remedies
Q: (L) I am getting tired.
A: Good Night.
End of Session
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January 27, 1996
Freddie, Laura, PZ, PkZ, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us?
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
Q: (L) If you will bear with us tonight, we would like to ask a
couple of health related questions.
Q: (L) First, is this sickness that I am experiencing part of an
A: As always.
Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to terminate this kind of attack?
A: No. Prevent? Yes!
Q: (L) What can one do to prevent these kinds of attack?
A: Always watch all portals! Those around you are all portals
Q: (L) So, we are all portals. If everybody is a portal, it seems
that you could spend all your time watching all of them and never
get anything else done!
A: Incorrect, when portals are activated, you will know if you are
watching!!! Your problem has been “falling down on the job,” especially not
being aware of the danger presented by those closest to you. You
tend to expect attack to always come from more or less disassociated
parties, and you frequently confuse issues: mode and source!
Q: (L) Well, is this especially true as we are on the verge of
getting the magazine out and getting some things out on the
A: Of course, that should be obvious.
Q: (L) Does that also include P’s aches and pains every time we try
to get the work done?
A: Yes, and expect more.
Q: (L) Well, I am so sick that I am ready to throw in the towel.
A: Throw in the towel?!? It’s too late!! And besides, your life will
dramatically improve if you persevere, as we have told you.
Susan has had several dreams about a storm coming and having to
batten down the hatches and relocating...
A: Susan must inquire.
Q: (S) In my dream, it was either a physical move, or a moving on to
something. Am I moving out of town in a physical way, is it a
spiritual moving on, or am I moving in a different direction in
terms of my path?
A: That is four questions at once.
Q: (S) Am I going to be leaving the area?
A: Do you desire to?
Q: (S) No, I don’t.
A: Then why would you expect that you would?
Q: (S) Well, that’s what the dream was, but I know it’s symbolic. Do
you think maybe I could be moving on, hopefully spiritually? What
does it mean, my moving on or relocating?
Q: (S) Well, I just wonder in what way...
(L) Susan has said that
she thinks this dream means she is going to die...
A: Susan, ask your questions directly, please! If you “beat around
we will also!
Q: (S) Will I be moving into 5th density soon?
A: What is “soon?”
Q: (S) Will it be sometime this year?
A: Only if you do something that might best be described as “ill
Q: (S) Because of all these dreams about me moving on, could it have
something to do with, like, in an earlier session you said that I
was a, um, I was held over in 5th density as a learning channel.
Now, I must have been learning important to be held over as many
times as I was. Will whatever I was learning in 5th density come in
handy in this lifetime, maybe?
A: What do you think you have been doing for the past year, as you
“time?” And, what is “moving on?”
Q: (S) Progressing?
Q: (S) You mean that what I am learning here, the knowledge I am
A: That is beside the point, somewhat.
Q: (S) The only other thing is therapy... is it the channeling?
A: Both, and more to come.
Q: (S) Well, I feel like I am just wasting my time in doing the
A: Let it flow, Susan, don’t worry about what all the twists and
turns along the
way mean... It is the destination that matters, and that is not for
you to know yet.
Q: (S) In all these dreams, I am repeatedly packing up to move.
Why are you worried about it? Let it flow.
(S) Because I have never
had dreams that repeated over and over. This is a first for me...
A: Have you ever had other “firsts?”
Q: (S) Yes...
A: Did you panic over those?
Q: (S) Sometimes.
A: And what happened?
Q: (S) I survived.
Q: (S) I just learn from them and grow from them...
(L) And don’t we
just answer our own questions?
(P) I have a question... the lady who
took the aura pictures the other night told me that I can astrally
project. Is this true?
A: Everyone can.
Q: (P) Am I special?
Q: (P) America has a flag, does Cassiopaea have a symbol? I want a
symbol for my magazine... I mean your magazine...
A: We have given two.
Q: (L) The wheel with seven spokes and the triple pyramid with the
A: No. Ask more, Patrick, as two very recent events have served to
your learning channel.
Q: (P) Then they must know exactly what I am going to ask. I want to
know if they can put something in my subconscious for the cover
design. I need proof.
A: Proof, what is that?
Q: (P) What is proof? Never mind. I’m afraid to ask.
A: Ask, what do you think we will do? Disintegrate you where you
Q: (P) The rumbling... does everybody have this... the rumbling
sound in my head?
A: Vague, but we will answer if “everyone” were to choose to have
everyone would have it.
Q: (L) What is it that Patrick perceives as a rumbling in his head.
Apparently, when he turns it on, it has a pronounced effect on his
A: Turn on a radiio between channels, and what do you hear?
Q: (L) Static.
(P) Buzzing. More than one channel?
(L) What are the
A: That is not the issue. Turn on a radio that has its tuner between
and what do you hear???
Q: (L) You hear static. And this would imply that the radio could be
Q: (P) And that is what I need to work on?
A: If you wish.
Q: (L) I don’t know too many people who can turn this on and off...
A: But you know people who have it “on” all the time, and always
Q: (L) I guess.
(P) Does it have anything to do with why the aliens
did not abduct me back in 1987 on the road trip through
A: That is not important.
Q: (L) Yes. They wanted his mom, not him!
(P) Do I have an implant?
Q: (P) Will I have an implant?
Q: (L) Sheldon Nidle has written a book called “Becoming a Galactic
Human.” He has said that the Earth is going to go into a photon belt
sometime this summer, that there is going to be 3 days of darkness,
and the poo is going to hit the fan, so to speak, the aliens are
going to land in the late summer or the fall, and they are all
coming here to help us. Could you comment on these predictions?
Q: (L) Is a fleet of aliens going to land on Earth and be announced
by the media in 1996?
Q: (P) In 1997?
Q: (L) Could you comment on the source of this book: “Three days of
Darkness,” by Divine Mercy?
Q: (L) Well, is there going to be 3 days of darkness in 1998 like it
A: Why does this continue to be such a popular notion? And, why is
obsessed with, are you ready for this, trivia...? Does it matter if
there is three days of darkness?!? Do you think that is the “be all
and end all?” What about the reasons for such a thing?... at all
levels, the ramifications? It’s like describing an atomic war in
prophecy by saying: “Oh my, oh my, there is going to be three hours
of a lot of big bangs, oh my!!”
Q: (L) Well, you didn’t say it
wasn’t going to happen in the fall of 1998. Is it?
A: First of all, as we have warned you repeatedly, it is literally
attach artificially conceived calendar dates to any sort of prophecy
or prediction for the many reasons that we have detailed for you
numerous times. [Note: the ‘fluid’ nature of the future.
Probability, etc.] And we have not said that this was going to
Q: (L) I know that you are saying that this 3 days of darkness is
trivial considering the stupendous things that are involved in realm
crossings. But, a lot of these people are interpreting this as just
3 days of darkness.. then wake up in paradise. I would like to have
some sort of response to this question.
A: Trust us to lead you when and how it is appropriate. You should
that to attempt apply 3rd density study and interpretations to 4th
density events and realities is useless in the extreme... This is
why UFO researchers keep getting 3 new questions for every 1 answer
they seek with their “research.” If you will trust us, we will
always give you not only the most correct answers to each and every
inquiry, but also the most profound answers. If the individual does
not understand, then that means they are either prejudiced, or not
properly tuned in.
Q: (L) Previously you told us about the SouthWest region of the
United States becoming 4th density. Will the people who live there
become 4th density beings? Or will they be 3rd density beings in 3rd
A: Some of both bleedin and bleedout.
Q: (L) Recently Freddie had an experience where he heard me calling
him as he was going in his door. Then, he heard Jason talking to him
here in my kitchen when Jason was up in bed. He was worried that it
meant something had happened, but it was apparently nothing of the
sort. So, what was it?
A: Increased awareness of ethereal imprints.
Q: (L) When I was standing at the washer the other night, I heard
someone clap their hands very loudly right behind me. Nobody was
Q: (L) You said earlier that if I just persevere that my life will
improve dramatically and immediately. So, when you say this, do you
mean really sudden and in a big way?
Q: (L) Are you going to give me any clues on this?
Q: (Pk) Do you ever laugh?
Q: (Pk) Do you miss being in 3rd density?
A: Do you miss being in 2nd? Or first?
Q: (Pk) Are you lauging at us?
A: Yes. And no, Pk, we were 3rd density beings in fact we are you in
“future!” We were you, and we are you, and we were 3rd density. Do
you understand the significance of the last statement, or would you
rather just brush it off? We are you and we were you and we were 3rd
density but we are not now 3rd density and you are not yet 6th
Q: (L) How do you spend your ‘time?’
A: Teaching, sharing, assisting.
Q: (L) What do you do for fun?
A: That is fun!
Q: (PZ) With each other?
Q: (PZ) With who?
A: Densities 1,2,3,4,5.
Q: (PZ) Do we all have a guardian angel? Each and every one of us?
One to a person?
A: Not correct concept.
Q: (L) What is the correct concept?
A: Not possible for you to comprehend.
Q: (L) How do we get assistance from higher realms?
A: By asking and...
Q: (L) What is the limit to the kind of assistance we can receive?
A: Limit?!? We live within a realm that includes no such thing!!!
Q: (L) Well, the ‘angel thing’ is pretty big nowadays. There are an
awful lot of angels running around. My first thought was: ‘what
better way for the bad guys to deceive than to appear as angels.’
A: Not true!!! STS CAN appear as entities incorrectly perceived as
but if it is really a sixth density being, incorrect perception is
Q: (L) I don’t understand. There are a LOT of beings
who deceive people. They produce phenomena, they do any number of
things including making people ‘feel good,’ have dreams, and all
that. What do you mean that incorrect perception is not possible? It
happens all the time!
Q: (L) Well, what is the story here?
A: Your perception abilities are short-circuiting due to vibrational
Q: (L) If you there is anywhere in you a question about what you are
perceiving, then that question is an indication that all the rest of
what you are perceiving could be false?
A: Part of the equation.
Q: (L) So, if it is really a 6th density being, it will blow you
away to such an extent that there is NO question?
Q: (L) Now, what is the other part of the equation?
A: Well, why do you question us? First of all, you question us
communication is limited at this point... you are not yet prepared
for stronger envelopment.
Q: (PZ) So, I should continue to pray?
A: All goes to 6th density.
Q: (PZ) Okay, let’s say that I have a little child who is dying of
leukemia, and I am praying with everything in me, and the child dies
anyway. I don’t get it. What’s the deal here?
A: Wrong. If child dies, that is your lesson profile.
Q: (PZ) Well, why isn’t my lesson profile with this particular
situation that is going on in my life right now, why isn’t it
continuing? I thought that maybe I need to...
A: Is it over yet, Pat?
Q: (PZ) No, it isn’t over yet, but...
A: So, what is your question, if it is not yet concluded?
Q: (PZ) Can you feel what I am thinking?
Q: (PZ) So, why do I need to ask?
A: Because we never interfere with free will.
Q: (PZ) If I continue to pray, things will continue to get better?
A: Things will stay on their intended course.
Q: (PZ) Are you telling me that my life has been predestined?
A: No. If you continue to pray, there is no chance of your lessons
interrupted or deferred. Clarify.
Q: (PZ) Well, that sounds like it is going to continue, it is not
going to stop.
A: No, clarify means to solidify your understanding of the answer.
Q: (PZ) Well, I don’t understand.
(L) I think it is pretty clear
that the things you are experiencing are part of the lessons.
A: Whatever that is... i.e.: que sera sera.
Q: (PZ) But then, we are back to predestiny?
A: No, lessons.
Q: (PZ) Well, how many damn lessons do you have to get?
A: As many “damn” lessons as you need!
Q: (S) What about the prayers that are directed to Jesus?
A: Jesus is one of us in “special service” sector.
Q: (L) Like a “green beret?”
A: No, more like a “beige beret.”
Q: (L) What is a ‘beige beret?’
A: Just our term.
Q: (PZ) Well, I have just always wondered if this praying business
is a bunch of malarkey.
(L) Oh, no.
(PZ) If I pray a rosary, I am
praying to the Virgin Mary. Who is she? Where is she?
A: “She” is here too.
Q: (PZ) Does that prayer go directly to her and does she then send
you out to do whatever?
A: She is not really a she. And when you write to “Ann Landers,”
really see it? And Good night.
End of Session
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February 3, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV, PZ, SZ, MM, Sandra, Tom F., Cherie D., PkZ
A: Words mean little.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: Your commentary.
Q: (L) My commentary?
Q: (L) Okay, who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) Where are you transmitting from?
Q: (L) Why are you not spelling Cassiopaea as is usual?
A: We have addressed this in prior sessions. Please review.
Q: (L) We have several questions tonight. Do you have any particular
messages for anyone here first?
A: The need to deliver messages flows naturally, there is no way to
“choreograph” it by requesting a specific “time” for this procedure.
And, please tell SV to relay specifically when we place words in
quotes!!!!! It is annoying to not get messages properly transmitted
when it is important for each entity receiving to absorb every
detail of the given messages as it is intended. We have up until now
not said anything about this, in the hopes that she would learn this
by herself, but alas, she has not. Therefore, we regret the
necessary reprimand. Sorry SV, but now please be aware that you have
been told, and do not make this error ever again!
Q: (L) Goodness! All I did was ask if there was a message for
A: But it is important for you to continue at the same steady pace.
Q: (L) Can I continue with the questions now?
A: Obviously, it is always possible to do all that you desire to
Q: (L) First question: there were rumors on the internet that a
respected scientist described a ‘ship’ in orbit around the planet
Saturn, which was said to be as large as the planet Earth. And,
supposedly, he said that the photographs from the space probe that
sent back the pictures of Saturn’s rings, showed this ship clearly
with portholes in it. Is this thing seen in orbit around Saturn,
described by this NASA scientist on television, which I cannot
confirm because I did not see it, is it, in fact, an artificially
constructed craft of some sort?
Q: (L) What was being seen?
A: It was an artificially constructed tale.
Q: (L) Okay, there is a fellow, TF, who has been hanging around PZ’s
printshop, who has a VERY strange story about his past and present.
The funny thing is, all the odd things about his story that we were
discussing recently, he explained point by point the following day
as though he had been listening to our conversation and knew of our
doubts and suspicions. Who is this guy and what are his objectives
where PZ is concerned?
A: Best not to discuss issues which threaten to interfere with free
directive. Suggest you stay “on your toes” with this one!
Q: (L) Is
there anything about this that you can tell us that does not
interfere with free will?
A: Have you not thought to gently inquire of the individual in
question? And if
not, why not? Generally, those involved in a ruse, be it simple or
complex, are uncomfortable with graduated incremental disclosure!
(L) Is one of the reasons you cannot discuss this more freely
because we have such a large group this evening?
A: Who says we are not discussing it freely? Subtle answers that
to dissect, promote intensified learning.
Q: (L) Okay. I made the observation that if the fellow was a
government spy, he would certainly have had a better cover story
that the one presented. Am I on the right track?
Q: (L) And, sometimes it seems that alien programmed or controlled
individuals do not have stories that make sense, or are consistent,
because maybe there is some lack in their understanding of human
culture. Am I on the right track here?
A: Sometimes is not all times.
Q: (L) Well, the guy is really HUGE and has size 17 feet... he looks
like a Nephilim to me! Am I on the right track?
A: It would be more fun if he had size “35” feet!
Q: (L) Who has size 35 feet?
A: If you meet them, “give us a call!”
Q: (L) Are you joking with me? All kidding aside...
A: You need to be aware of all “guys.”
Q: (L) Does PZ have anything to be afraid of?
A: What have we told you about knowledge as opposed to ignorance?!?
Q: (L) PZ wants to know what his intentions are.
A: Review answer two.
Q: (PZ) Was he paranoid about the questions we were asking a week
prior to tonight?
A: What happens to those who become uncomfortable?
Q: (L) Well, they get out of the situation. So, start grilling
A: Not “grill.” We suggest subtle approach, or grill him
Q: (L) Tonight, it seems that everyone wants to know who or what is
this El Chupacabras?
A: We were not finished with the other subject. That is weighing
some minds present here. Ask, that is how one learns!!
Q: (PZ) Do I
have any reason to be concerned about my actions regarding him, that
I called to check on him with the police and reported him to the
State Attorneys office?
Q: (PZ) Is it possible that there are ‘moles’ in the tiny little
police department here?
Q: (PZ) Do I need to get a bodyguard?
A: You are straying, please review.
Q: (L) Was it a clue that if she stays “on her toes” he won’t step
on here with his size 17 feet?
Q: (PZ) Pk seems to believe everything he says.
A: Ask Pk.
Q: (L) What do you think, Pk?
(Pk) I think he does a little bit of
double-talk, but not as much as everybody thinks.
A: That is not the issue.
Q: (L) Is the specific issue whether this guy has any alien
A: No, that is not it.
Q: (PZ) Is he monitoring us?
A: Review answer two.
Q: (L) It must be the one about inquiring in subtle ways.
A: Now, ask yourself (PZ): How likely is it that anyone with a
ability to supposedly create such massive amounts of income, would
just “walk in the door” and offer you a partnership in an endeavor
that is going to produce such riches, as the person in question has
described to you? If this individual has such tremendous acumen, why
would he want to share the “bounty?” Remember the old saying: if
something sounds too good to be true...
Q: (L) Okay, can we ask now
about El Chupacabras?
A: It is what it is.
Q: (L) It is a ‘goatsucker.’ Where does it come from?
A: Review transcripts re: “window fallers.”
Q: (L) If it is a window faller, does it come from another density,
or a lateral dimension?
A: Closer to the latter.
Q: (L) Okay, so it is like a horizontal dimension. What allowed it
to enter our realm?
A: This is complex, but best described as “EM wave bursts along
Q: (L) Is there some way to capture or stop this creature?
A: You do not yet completely understand all the “mechanics” of the
phenomenon. The physicality is entirely transitory and partially
dependent upon consciousness variabilities, as well as expectations
Q: (L) Does the energy of the fear of the witness
enable the creature to continue its existence? Does it feed on the
excitement and fear, and is that what makes it manifest?
A: Close, but off a little. It is the other way around, and
Q: (L) What do you mean by that?
A: It is mutual, rather than unilateral. Also, remember that a
represents a cross-energizing of realities, equally represented from
each “dimension” in question. In other words, because the
dimensional curtain has been “torn,” half of one and half of the
other contributes to the whole reality.
Q: (L) Does this mean that
something from our reality is also scaring something in that other
A: No, it does not “work” that way at all.
Q: (L) Is there any possibility that this mutual creature is going
to turn its attention from animals to humans?
A: Ditto last answer. And review response prior to that!
Q: (L) Okay, now, there are a lot of current teachings that say that
the ‘dregs’ of other planets are being sent to Earth to ‘refine’
them, so to speak, and that this is why the human race is so divided
and antagonistic... that the interactions are supposed to result in
annihilation of the weak and survival of the strong in both physical
and spiritual terms.
A: First of all, confusion abounds here due to incorrect
interpretations of the
last subject discussed. Dimensions are not densities!!!! Dimensions
are strictly the result of the universal consciousness as manifested
in the imagination sector of thought. Density means level of
development as measured in terms of closeness to union with the
one... Cycle. So, obviously, the “chupacabras” is a manifestation of
human consciousness, and, human beings are a manifestation of the
Chupacabras consciousness. Get it? Now, a shocker for you: You would
not exist if someone didn’t “dream you up.”
Q: (L) Who dreamed me
A: Not important just yet. You literally are the “figments” of
imagination, and nothing more!!!
Q: (L) You mean God dreams and brings us into existence?
A: Remember, “God” is really all existence in creation, in other
consciousness. This is because all existence in creation is
consciousness, and vice versa.
Q: (L) So, the issues of racial superiority that are brought up in
the Urantia book can be answered by ‘anything is possible?’
A: Close, but remember, all there is is lessons!
Q: (L) Is it true that the ‘dregs’ of other planets are being sent
A: That would be subjective.
Q: (MM) I would like to know if the Cassiopaeans are familiar with
the entity that was on the three dimensional level known as
A: Third density, not three dimensional. And yes, but this entity
aliases: Thorn, Christian, Mobson Singh, etc.
Q: (MM) Where is Paramahansa now?
A: Fifth Density.
Q: (MM) Is he the Avatar?
A: That is a subjective, artificial concept of the self- styled
Q: (MM) Who came up with the concept?
(W) I don’t know. I read it in
a book somewhere.
(L) So, someone said he is now an Avatar?
A: Is Debbie a “shaman,” is Billy a “hero,” is Oscar a “blade
Q: (L) I read Yogananda’s book and it seemed that he might be a very
holy person. He seemed to have very loving concepts and practices in
(MM) I just wanted to know where he is now.
density, they said.
(MM) Does fifth density have anything to do with
A: That is not a proper conceptualization.
Q: (L) Well, fifth density is the contemplation and recycling
‘zone.’ (MM) Well, at the centers, the ashrams and shrines, people
swear that he appears to them. I was curious also about the entity
in my home.
A: This is a hanger-on from visit with W at her domain. It is an
Q: (L) Is MM’s critter an STS or STO entity?
Q: (L) How does it make you feel?
(MM) I am tired all the time.
she get rid of it?
A: Spirit release.
Q: (MM) Was it attached to W first?
Q: (MM) Is this what set off my fire alarm?
A: Energy therefrom.
Q: (L) Sandra wants to know about her uncle who just died in
(S) Where is he?
A: He is at 5th density.
Q: (S) Is he having a hard time adjusting?
A: No, but remember, there is no “time” there.
Q: (S) Many members of the family have reported having visions and
dreams of him. What are these caused by?
A: Various processes.
Q: (L) I guess you have to ask about specific ones. Are any of these
caused by Uncle Andrew himself visiting?
A: That is too simplified.
Q: (L) I guess you have to specify...
A: No, you don’t understand. We meant that your comment was too
The question is: are any of these manifestations Uncle Andrew?
Q: (S) He appeared to his oldest daughter ...
A: The concept is faulty.
Q: (L) The idea of any of them being Andrew, I guess.
(S) So, the
appearances are all their own expectations?
A: No, not always, but we are trying to teach.
Q: (S) Is he at peace?
A: Yes. Do you want to learn, or would you prefer to assume?
Q: (L) What are these manifestations?
A: They are 5th density thought projection energy waves.
Q: (L) So, his family are picking up these 5th density thought
A: You are not following well.
Q: (S) So, when the family members are seeing negative things, it is
just their own guilt?
A: There is no time on 5th density. All event sequences happen
for an instant only at once.
Q: (L) How does that relate to the question?
A: Because you asked if he was at peace, and if he was “adjusting.”
Do you not
see that by the “time” you realize someone is “dead,” they have
already, in essence, experienced their entire 5th density
incarnation recycling, learning and contemplative experience in
Q: (L) Sandra wants to know how many times she has been ‘recycled’
as a human being?
Q: (S) I knew it! That’s why this body is breaking down in pieces!
(PZ) What about me?
Q: (L) SZ?
Q: (L) PZ?
Q: (PZ) Have Shayna and I known each other in another life?
A: Yes, all have and do. Number of incarnations does not
for graduation. And you, my dear, are too fatigued, so Good Night.
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February 8, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L) Last Saturday night we had a very large group of people here
and I experienced very unpleasant sensations. I would like to know
the source of these?
A: The question is vague.
Q: (L) Was the channel corrupted?
A: Not corrupted, diluted. Static em discharge from two entity
Q: (L) What is the source of these entity sectors?
A: We have explained in detail these structure of this in prior
Q: (L) Was this due to the presence of any one or more persons in
A: One but two.
Q: (L) One person but two entities?
Q: (L) Who was the one person?
Q: (L) Well you said, at the time, that (name deleted) had an
attachment and needed spirit release, is this the same person?
A: You learn by answering, using your own learnings, not from
confirmations by us.
Q: (L) Well, I am obviously not learning too well, because I was
dead wrong on the missing girl, and you were telling me about my
“amazing abilities” which were not so amazing in that case!
A: All who have amazing abilities must too guard against corruptive
within and without having to do with prejudice, assumption, and the
anticipatory desires involving patterning presumption. i.e. keep an
open mind, always!!!
Q: (L) Well, this leads me to the situation
with the mothers: can you give us any immediate advice on this. A
clue as to how to settle this situation.
A: Advice was given; not followed!
Q: (L) What advice was given that was not followed?
(SV) Only about
the living will for my mom.
A: Did we identify source of the advice?
Q: (L) What is the source of the advice?
A: Transposed by Susan!!!
Q: (L) Do you mean the advice Freddie gave Susan?
A: First things first! Please, Susan, try to be accurate!
Q: (L) Well, the situation is gummy right now...
A: You were warned, Susan! Please, please, please, please, when you
call or cry
out for help and or guidance, know that we will always, always,
always answer. It is up to you to be aware and then trust and
follow. If your deepseated stubbornness prevents this, it will
result in nothing short of your total undoing! This is because we
never give such warnings, except when Vitally necessary! This
applies to all others present equally as well!!
Q: (L) Well,
remember that you don’t want to work your way into your own undoing,
I guess, so you ought to begin to overcome your stubbornness about
not facing things that need to be dealt with, and doing it. And,
from what they are saying, you will get all the support you will
need from us and them if you just ask.
(SV) Lesson learned, I hope.
(L) This is a tough subject, any more on it?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Is there anything further you can add?
A: The situation will resolve naturally as all situations do...
Q: (L) Is there any advice you can give for mom so that she is
better able to cope with the situation?
A: Reading will help relieve her stress. She can get the correct
Q: (L) So, I guess it is up to you to see that she gets time to
relax and read.
Okay, next issue: the computer problem. Is it an attack to prevent
A: Could be viewed as such.
Q: (L) Is it going to be resolved quickly?
Q: (L) Is our involvement with Pat fortuitous or potentially
Q: (L) You said before, that when we got things going that
everything would improve suddenly and dramatically, and immediately.
We understood that to mean getting online dialogues going and also
getting the magazine out. Are we going to be able to do this soon?
A: As soon as needed.
Q: (L) Thank you. Good Night.
A: Good Night.
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February 17, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) We have several questions on the list I would like to get to
before anyone else gets here. Actually, Sue has some questions about
her investing strategy.
A: Who are we?
Q: (L) I’m sorry. Who do we have with us tonight?
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
Q: (L) Okay, now that we are connected...
A: Ask specific questions.
Q: (L) In rereading the session on the economy and investing and so
forth, I was wondering if we are, at least, on schedule or the right
Q: (L) One thing noted was, ‘if you play by the rules, you cannot
survive, if you don’t play by the rules, you will do quite well,
indeed.’ What specific rules do you mean?
A: Vague. Review the text.
Q: (L) Well, one of the rules was ‘working very hard and earning
your bread by the sweat of your brow.’ You said that was trap number
A: No, working for someone else; not how “hard” one does it.
Q: (L) The other thing was about investing. You said that storing it
in banks was useless, and you suggested to invest...
A: These were suggestions, not limitations.
Q: (L) You also suggested publishing...
A: We suggested you ask directly to be published.
Q: (L) I talked to Val, and he has apparently become enamored of
Drunvalo Melchizidek, and Frank De Marco bounced back the material.
A: That is two only, and of neither did you ask directly and with
humility. Remember, sophistication and the upkeep of an appearance of “stature
or professionalism” are to be avoided here! Forget “images,” and
concentrate on intent with sincerity. You are very skilled at
“getting your point across,” if you are sufficiently motivated to do
so. Do not let self-importance interfere!
Q: (L) What are you
talking about!?! Do you have any idea how much work I have done? How
much I have sent out? The numbers of people?!
A: Just ask: Please publish this work.
Q: (L) I do not think you are grasping the situation here! There are
two choices: a publishing house that pays you or a publishing house
A: You have not contacted all sources.
Q: (L) Of course I haven’t contacted ALL!!! Do you have any idea how
much money it costs to mail out that manuscript? There is no way I
could possibly send it out to them all! You are being completely
unrealistic for 3rd density here!
A: Then, network.
Q: (L) This is ridiculous! You don’t know what you are talking
about. You are in 6th density, this is 3rd density.
(S) No, look at
that computer. There are a lot of people who know other people.
Surely somebody knows somebody who works for a publisher?
you aren’t getting it... I have a file of rejection letters. Do you
want to see them?
A: What text did you send?
Q: (L) Noah, it is the only thing that is in readable form.
A: Who says?
Q: (L) Well, for goodness sake, you ought to know that the
transcripts are not suitable to send out to anyone in the chopped up
and scattered shape they are in!
A: Avoid prejudice!
Q: (L) So, what you are talking about is sending out the transcripts
of the sessions. Is that it?
Q: (L) Well, that’s not what I was talking about! If you guys know
so much, how come you didn’t know that?
A: We did.
Q: (L) Well, “tales are easy to sew, when the past is yours only to
A: Good one!
Q: (L) Yeah, I got it from you!
A: If you ask to be published, you will be published! Also, we
suggest it not
be piecemeal, but all inclusive! And use your networking skills.
Q: (S) Look at how many people write to you asking questions...
A: It need not be further “organized.” We have done that for you.
faith!!!! We have told you, we do not give false advice.
Q: (L) I am confused here.
A: Then inquire.
Q: (L) We were thinking that putting out the magazine with Pat was
the way to go. And, all the other things that could go in there...
Is that a vain assumption?
A: Things, maybe, but not a book. Magazine is “cool,” but not the
Publish the book elsewhere!
Q: (L) Well, since you could give me the name of a chiropractor, why
can’t you give me the name of a publisher?
A: Because it violates learning directive. But note: it is close at
Q: (L) I don’t get it.
A: What do you spend so much “time” doing with your hands?
Q: (L) I type... letters to people on the net...
Q: (S) Bright idea!
(L) No, it has to be more complicated than that.
A: Look for a directory of publishers, and their mail addresses, for
Q: (L) Well, I have had enough on that subject. That’s enough.
A: No, it is not!!!
Q: (L) Okay. I look for a directory of publishers... then what?
A: What do you think?
Q: (L) Anything else?
Q: (L) Well, how will I know the right one when I find them? I can’t
just send it out all over the place!
Q: (L) What else is there?
A: Much else... You know how you like treasure hunts, Laura?!? Then
like this one.
Q: (L) Okay, what is the next clue in this treasure hunt?
A: Network!!! Do you yet understand what we mean when we say that?
Q: (L) I guess that means that you share information on the net?
A: Yes. And... Read John Naisbitt. We have direct communications
Q: (L) Who is he?
Q: (L) Oh, I have the book. Are you telling me that you communicate
A: Yes. Now, read chapter headings!!!
Q: (L) Okay: ‘Industrial Society to an Information Society.’ ‘Force
Technology, to High Tech,’ ‘National Economy to World Economy,’
‘Short Term to Long Term,’ ‘Centralization to Decentralization,’
‘Institutional Help to Self Help,’ ‘Hierarchies to Networking,’
etc... Page 211, interesting numbers. Okay, anything else you want
A: In you “spare time,” read and absorb, and look for the clues
will allow you to use your resources more efficiently, thus quickly
Q: (L) Okay.
(F) With an open mind. No prejudice!
Q: (L) Can I ask my other questions? Some people on the net want me
to ask about this HAARP thing... seems to be some sort of antennae
A: Disguise for something else.
Q: (L) What is that something else?
A: Project to apply EM wave theories to the transference of
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: If utilized as designed, will allow for controlled invisibility
movement between density levels on surface of planet as well as
Q: (L) Who is in charge of building this thing?
A: More than one entity.
Q: (L) What groups?
A: INVELCO is one guise as well as UNICON and banking interest.
Q: (L) Who is in disguise as INVELCO and UNICON? Are they just dummy
companies for cover?
Q: (L) Can you tell us if this is a human organization or aliens, or
A: Human at surface level.
Q: (L) Whose idea was this project?
A: Not applicable.
Q: (L) Is there more you can tell us about this?
A: It has nothing to do with weather or climate. These things are
from 4th density, as we have told you before.
Q: (L) Is this something like a TransDimensional Atom
Q: (L) Is is something like what you said about the whole South West
going into 4th density?
Q: (L) So, HAARP has nothing to do with the weather?
A: And also EM associated with same as reported.
Q: (L) So, when is this HAARP thing scheduled to go into operation?
Q: (L) Is it currently in operation?
Q: (L) How long have they been working on this thing?
A: Since the 1920s.
Q: (L) What?! The 1920s?
Q: (L) Well, that certainly is strange. Change gears. I read the
other day about an association between UFOs and breaking things. Is
A: Some, yes.
Q: (L) In the experiences that I had myself, where a lot of things
in some strange relation to me, or disappeared, and specifically the
when Chloe and I were coming back from North Carolina and the window
in the car
exploded, were any of these events related to UFO activity?
Q: (L) Well, Chloe wanted me to ask about the trip. Could you
comment on that?
A: Maybe you should continue to probe Chloe to see what other
has had, and why? There is much hidden there.
Q: (L) Well, I recounted to her the flash of memory I had of the
incident that happened back in 1987 when I woke up and the house was
surrounded by a super bright light. My first thought was that there
was a whole bunch of trucks and cars surrounding the house with
their lights shining on it, that it was people my husband knew,
therefore he should handle it. I thought it was a joke and decided
that I didn’t need to worry about it. Later I woke up, reversed in
the bed, the bottom half of my gown was wet, and instead of going
nuts about this, I crawled out of the bed, which was against a wall,
and turned around and crawled back in and went to sleep. I told this
to Chloe, and pointed out to her how exceedingly crazy a thing it
was. To know that there was all this light shining on your house,
and to just go back to sleep, and then to wake up in such an odd
condition, and think nothing of it... just sweep it under the rug.
This happened around the same time the things were breaking. What
A: What do you think?
Q: (L) Well, it could have been a dream. It could just be a very
A: Seems dreams do tend to reverse one’s position on the bed, as a
Q: (L) Well, no need to be funny. The fact that my physical body was
reversed and I was wet would indicate an actual physical abduction,
Q: (L) Well, haven’t you said that actual physical abductions are
Q: (L) That was when my hands started going numb, the horrible
A: Probe Chloe, to see what things she is repressing.
Q: (L) She did tell me that she was beginning to see some things...
We will leave that. On the news the other night, there was a new
type of AIDS reported. Where did it come from?
A: Mutation of virus.
Q: (L) The story is that it came from Thailand, is this true?
Q: (L) Is it already in the U.S?
Q: (L) Well, it is supposed to be 8 times more contagious...
A: But still transmitted in the same mode.
Q: (L) Is AIDS transmissible by, for example, insects?
Q: (L) By any means other than what is taught?
Q: (L) How many people have died of true AIDS in the U.S.?
Q: (L) How many people have it at present?
A: Approx 1 million are HIV positive. Only 39 per cent will ever
Q: (L) Anything that I ought to have asked that I did not? Can you
tell me anything that will help?
A: Proceed with caution, as publishing soon to “explode.”
Q: (L) We do have this online ‘chat’ with Mike Lindemann on ISCNI
tomorrow night. Any advice?
A: Keep to the point, use simple English, avoid excessive verbiage,
not universally understood, unless accompanied by an adequate
Q: (L) Okay, I guess we just press on with the
networking and the magazine for now... hope it creates some cash
flow because all that paper and printing is costing me an arm and a
A: Soon to be solved!!
Q: (L) Well, I need to know if I am pouring money into a useless
A: No you don’t! Discovery is fun!
Q: (L) Is anything unusual going to happen at the conference next
A: Wait and see!
Q: (L) Thank you and good night.
A: Good Night.
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February 21, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us?
Q: (L) Where are you transmitting from?
Q: (L) SV has some issues tonight, and I guess that the first one is
that she is concerned about flying to Gulf Breeze. She wants to
know: Is the plane we are taking safe?
A: Why would you expect otherwise?
Q: (S) Well, the Lizzies could come along and blow the plane out of
A: “Lizzies” could come along and blow up your cars.
Q: (L) Do we have any protection from them?
A: Knowledge/awareness acts as a shield, as we have told you.
Q: (L) Well, speaking of that, SV had questions about investment
back in December and you described a strategy...
A: One possible course of action, but not exclusive in nature.
Q: (L) A couple of weeks ago you said “advice was given” that SV
didn’t follow. You then said that when she calls on you for advice,
that it was up to her as to whether she chose to trust and follow
the advice. Then you said that if her “deepseated stubbornness”
prevented this, it would result in her “total undoing.” She wants to
know what advice you gave that she did not follow?
Q: (L) She thought she was handling it.
A: You left portals “unwatched.”
Q: (S) What portals were these?
A: Emotions in motion.
Q: (S) Relating to what?
A: Ask yourself.
Q: (L) Well, my thought is that it has to do with her mother.
A: What specifically?
Q: (L) Well, her mother and her emotions relating to her mother?
Q: (S) I have been concerned.
A: What about potential for discourse?
Q: (S) What do you mean, discourse?
(L) Discourse or discord?
Q: (L) We knew there was potential for discord.
(S) Yes, we talked
A: And what did you, Susan, do to prevent discord? Does talking
amongst yourselves solve it?
Q: (L) What did Susan not do?
A: Ask Susan!!
Q: (S) I talked with them...
A: Talking about weeds does not solve a bug problem, does it?!
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: Think! Avoidance does not solve!
Q: (L) Did you ever say to them that you would put them back in the
home if they did not cooperate?
(S) No, I never said that.
you just talked about the weeds, and did not address the bugs. And,
your mom and Dick are so devious and manipulative that you really
have to tell them in a firm way about the consequences of their
behavior and what you WILL do if it continues. And, you have to make
it stick. You are just simply avoiding the whole issue.
(S) Well, I
am going to take them to my house on Saturday and ask them how they
(F) That’s not going to solve the problem. Of course they
are going to lie to you about everything and continue exactly as
they are doing.
(L) SV, that is not dealing with YOUR issues with
your mother. Her control over you. You need to break that!
Q: (L) Is that what SV has not done?
Q: What else?
A: Discuss for learning purposes!
Q: (L) I have been getting the strong feeling that SV should not be
taking any more risks with her finances. SV paid off all her debts
with her capital instead of investing it to make more money. Was
that a good idea?
A: What is a “good idea?”
Q: (L) Well, she no longer has any investment capital, and if
anything happens to her mother...
(S) I only have about 8K left, but
I believe that I should just do the best with what I have... maybe I
won’t have tons of money coming in, but a little here and a little
A: Okay, here comes one last financial suggestion: take one half of
remaining capital and buy gold.
Q: (S) Gold or gold options?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that now the whole deal has changed?
A: Well of course, the situation has changed due to change in
brought about by SV’s choices.
Q: (L) Would it be advisable for her to get the cash out of her
credit line for investment?
A: We advised on this. It is up to her.
Q: (L) And, there is another thing: she is always stressed because
of the place she works.
(S) Well, I can’t take the time to go to
every single chiropractor for stuff like that...
A: Take time and go to one single computer terminal! And you can’t
“stuff like that!”
Q: (S) I want to know what you mean about ‘deep-seated stubbornness?
A: We mean what we said, self-explanatory.
Q: (S) I think everybody is stubborn in one way or another.
Let’s change the subject. I have been getting a lot of mail on the
internet from the portions of transcript that I have posted.
A: Tip of the ice-berg.
Q: (L) Well, if it keeps up, I will need a secretary because it
seems that all I do is write answers to questions or send copies of
answers to questions to people asking the same questions...
A: What fun!
Q: (L) I am trying to keep up will all of it and I am being worn
out. I am working 18 hours a day... I am trying to keep up with all
the stuff that is coming in...
A: And those of wisdom, know to follow paths most easily grooved.
Q: (L) I have written to a LOT of people about the publishing...
when am I going to find what I am looking for? I am amazed at how
many people want to read the material after I have sent out these
A: Then you should know our response.
Q: (L) Wait and see?
A: Bingo!! Did we not tell you, did we not advise you about the
Q: (L) Of course...
A: And what did you do?
Q: (L) Well, I did it as soon as I could...
A: And what happened?
Q: (L) The Lizzies tried to kill me! [laughter]
A: The Lizard Force, i.e. STS, has been attacking you since day one.
been advising you only for 1.5 years, as you measure it.
Q: (L) The
situation is such that I am running out of force from working
against this constant oppression and opposition. Can you tell me if
I will ever have some peace of mind so that I can continue to
A: Have we?
Q: (L) I guess. Okay, there is some valley in Canada that is
supposed to be very mysterious and it seems that no one will go to
the area any more because they all end up dead with their heads cut
off. Who is doing this? Is there some indians or cave people or
A: STS beings, density 4.
Q: (L) Oh, goodness! Well, I think that I ought to ask something
else because I have this feeling that there is something right
around the corner, or something just out of my line of sight that I
do not see. I guess I am asking for unknown knowledge.
A: Knowledge of an unknown nature is not knowledge.
Q: (L) Okay. Anything else from anybody? SV, I guess you know what
you are supposed to do now... you screwed up big time...
(S) Well, I
was always taught that...
A: Rules. Good Night.
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February 24, 1996
Freddie, Laura, Susan, PZ, SZ, MM, W
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
Q: (L) First item: it seems that everyone in this room has been
experiencing some sort of major, cumulative problems, all on the
same day. Would you comment on this, please?
Q: (L) What exception?
A: Freddie. Move board over to left. Your left. [adjustment made]
[further adjustment.] OK. Better centered.
Q: Can you comment on SV’s situation since she is the most upset?
A: Not unless you ask specifics.
Q: (S) I know I am under attack and I am going to deal with it the
best way I can. It’s hard, but there is nothing else I can do. I
knew I was coming under attack because the clock that does not work
was humming again and that is always a sure sign.
A: Concealment causes bereavement.
Q: (L) Who is bereaved?
A: Who is concealing?
Q: (L) Are you trying to hide your emotional state?
(S) Of course.
It’s my problem.
(L) Well, remember what they told me: when I hurt
everyone else suffers.
(S) But, if I don’t tell anyone else, then no
one else has to suffer.
A: Networking provides solutions, and not just on the computer!!!
Q: (S) Well, I am upset with everything about my mother. I know it
is my own fault... If I had left them at the home, everything would
have been fine.
Q: (S) Well, it’s not fine now. Everybody is upset. Everybody is
(F) It is certainly not a good situation.
(S) I want to know about
Is it really a warning signal as I think it is?
A: What do you think? Remember, you learn on an exponential curve,
have become “tuned in.” This means that you become increasingly able
to access the universal consciousness. Please learn to trust your
increasing awareness. All who are present here are at one point or
another on that cycle, or one point or another on that cycle of
progression, some further along than others. If you properly network
without prejudice, you may all wind up at the same point on this
cycle. We also mean that you can access the universal consciousness
to find the answers to otherwise unseen truths, such as the clock
vibrating as a sign of increased 4th density STS presence, for but
Q: (L) Well, along this line, MM has a very strange
object appearing in aura photographs in her house and, more or less
with her. It appears to be a column of light, or a luminescent tube
of some sort. What is it?
A: Represents conduit created by presence at locator which is in
communication with higher density levels. And, in fact, there is
some degree of convergence between same.
Q: (L) What presence are we talking about?
A: Many and varied.
Q: (L) And this is also a convergence point of densities?
A: Not exactly; convergence is taking place to some degree.
Q: (L) Are these presences STS or STO?
Q: (L) It is like a portal?
A: Not a portal, it is a conduit. A portal is an opening allowing
manifest from higher density levels and downward. A conduit is a
“two way street.”
Q: (W) What do they want MM to do?
A: That is not the correct concept. Correction: A conduit develops
of locator and... the entities present. It is not locator fixed.
Q: (L) What should MM do in regard to this opening and these
A: Nothing in particular... But it is up to MM to decide how to
Q: (L) Are any of these presences connected to the statue?
Q: (L) What kind of entity is connected with the statue?
A: Fifth density holdover.
Q: (L) Why is this being there?
A: Chooses to be. And no, Laura, it is not a Lizard!!!
Q: (L) Well, then what is it?
A: Didn’t we just tell you?
Q: (L) Yes. We were talking about that earlier. How dead dudes can
attach to things or people or houses or whatever. How are we going
to solve this?
A: What needs to be solved?
Q: (L) Can she use this conduit?
A: Of course. And has already!!! If she had not, the conduit would
Q: (MM) How can I use it more effectively?
A: This would violate learning directive.
Q: (MM) What is the connection between the statue and myself?
A: All is interconnected. Please refer to our first few responses of
Q: (L) She can use it to access universal consciousness?
Q: (L) Well, what can she do to maximize the STO presence and
minimize the STS use of the conduit?
A: Oh Laura, my dear, seems you need a refresher course in the
Maybe suggest you read them and relax and privately listen to the
ones you have
not as of yet transcribed a little more. This would be extremely
your many and increasing communications via the “net” as well.
help you to unlock answers that have been placed in your
files from before the “time” of the birth of your physical body.
Also, false information is worse than no information at all. Now,
for PZ: Please denote quote marks in your reading back of the
answers, in order to preserve the greatest possible meaning! Thank
Q: (MM) What is happening to me when I feel I am being touched in a
sleep or semi-sleep state?
A: Various entities.
Q: (MM) What is their purpose for doing this?
A: Too vague to explain and this is learning material. Consult
Q: (MM) I would like to ask about my karma with W?
A: Remember two things: Number one, there are better ways to access
information than to expect us to lead you by the hand, this is not
Number two, Too many personal questions begin to restrict the
Q: (L) Mike Lindemann asked us if we would be interested in
utilizing ISCNI as a forum for the material. Is this an acceptable
Q: (L) You also said that publishing would “explode.” Can you give
us any more on that?
A: Is this “personal data night?”
Q: (L) Well, I didn’t think it was personal data. I have a number of
questions from people all over the world that I need to get
answered, and it seems that people are interested, and I would like
to get the material out there.
A: We have advised on this subject already, and patience is a virtue
Q: (L) Mike Lindeman has proposed that we submit the channeling to
A: Mike Lindemann does not channel, now does he? What sort of
does he propose?
Q: (L) He didn’t say. I guess they want short-term predictions and
all sorts of little tests...
A: Precisely, now what does this tell you?
Q: It tells us that he wants proof.
A: Third density “proof” does not apply, as we have explained again
Now, listen very carefully: if proof of that type were possible,
what do you suppose would happen to free will, and thusly to
learning, Karmic Directive Level One?
Q: (L) Well, I guess that if there is proof, you are believing in
the proof and not the spirit of the thing. You are placing your
reliance upon a material thing. You have lost your free will.
Someone has violated your free will by the act of PROVING something
A: If anyone CHOOSES to believe, that is their prerogative!
Q: (PZ) [unintelligible remark]
A: You did not completely understand the previous response, Pat. And
Q: (L) Predictions that came true, answers that were verifiable
about a number of things.
A: Those would still be dismissed by a great many as mere
coincidences. We have
already given predictions, will continue to do so, but, remember,
“time” does not exist. This is a 3rd density illusion. We don not
play in that sandbox and cannot and never will. The primary reason
for our communication is to help you to learn by teaching yourselves
to learn, thereby strengthening your soul energy, and assisting your
Q: (L) Are you saying that your primary reason is just to teach us?
This small group?
A: Because you asked for help.
Q: (L) So, you came through because we asked. Is this material being
given to others, or is it designed to or intended to be shared with
A: If they ask in the necessary way. Otherwise, the sharing of the
give to you will teach millions of others.
Q: (L) What is the ‘necessary way?’
A: How “long did it take you?”
Q: (L) Well, it took all our lives and a LOT of hard work.
A: Okay, now what did we mean when we referred to “millions of
Q: (L) Are you saying that this information will be transmitted in
some way to millions of others?
A: In what way?
Q: (L) Well, the only thing I can think of is through books.
Q: (W) That’s a lot of work.
A: The work has been ongoing, W!
Q: (W) Well, it all has to be typed, and edited, and correlated and
put in a cohesive form, and it will be a couple of years....
A: All will be taken care of, and no, W!.
Q: (L) Well, that’s a clue! A concession!
(W) Well, I was thinking
of the time frame and so many things are getting ready to happen any
time now. It seems like the information needs to get out there soon
or it will be obsolete.
A: Prejudice serves no purpose! Also, who says that the information
is going to
Q: (PZ) What is the matter with just making photocopies and binding
A: Wait and see. And don’t be surprised if events supercede such
Q: (L) Well, that’s a clue! I wonder what they mean?
A: Wait and see?
Q: (W) I would like to know about this comet that is being talked
about on the internet that people say is going to crash into the
Earth on April 7th...
Q: (L) Well, I am curious about PZs and MM and Ws mysterious phone
calls, and the strange guy who has been stalking PZ being seen
peering in the window at Freddie’s job. Are all of these things
A: No comment. All of these things can be discovered by utilising
we have taught you and the talents you possess and have learned
Q: (L) Well, group, have we answered all these questions yet?
A: Facetiousness is humorous, so long as all present understand
Q: (L) Recently I heard a clapping sound behind my back, and I spun
around and there was no one there. Gene B mentioned hearing the
“clapping” sounds behind him when he was meditating once. I
understand that this is like breaking the sound barrier when
something comes through from another density...
A: Not “sound” barrier, just “barrier” will do!
Q: (L) Well, in regard to PZ’s situation...
A: PZ has had “situations” going on for some time, as you measure
Q: (L) Well, considering her husband’s work, her own work, her
security clearances... and that it is very common to get the funny
phone calls and now W has also had these phone calls...
Q: (L) Well, there was a woman on television who had claimed that
she was being abducted. She left a voice activated tape recorder on
her night table, and during the night a strange, metallic sounding
voice was recorded which said:
‘don’t wake up,’ and it was the strangest thing you ever heard. And,
Karla Turner had the same sort of thing going on with her.
(MM to W)
Should we tell them who this was that was calling?
(L) Who, God?
(MM) No. Go ahead.
(W) I can only tell you who he claimed to be. He
died in 1952. It was Paramahansa.
(MM) Yes. I went out and found a
tape of Yogananda, and it was HIS voice! And then the tape fried my
(L) Well, it either was, or it wasn’t. Was the
voice that of Yogananda? Can we ask?
A: You can ask.
Q: (L) Well, was it?
A: Was it?
Q: (L) Well, where is Yogananda now?
A: Fifth density.
Q: (L) So, Yogananda is in 5th density. Cayce once said that he
would return in 1998 as a ‘liberator.’ Did he mean that he would be
born in 1998, or ‘activate’ in 1998?
A: That is not important.
Q: (L) Now, my memory for dates and times has always been, at best,
a little vague. But, lately, it has been really bad. What is the
cause of this loss of ability to keep a sequential record of what
one does, who one sees, etc? It is really strange.
A: It is not strange. As one “ages” the illusion of time passage
deteriorate because your “higher mind” begins to understand the
Q: (L) I was reading some of the transcripts earlier
today. One of the things I read was about the Nephilim and their
interactions with human beings and about other planets and
molecularization, etc. Then, I was reading about the planet Kantek.
Are there any human beings, on Earth, at the present time, who carry
in them the Nephilim genes?
Q: (L) MM has a six foot tall daughter. I have a kid who is pretty
tall. Could this be a manifestation of Nephilim genes?
A: Maybe, maybe not.
Q: (L) Is there any way one can tell?
A: Would you want to?
Q: (L) Yes.
A: No you wouldn’t!
Q: (L) Would these Nephilim genetics be passed down in the natural
way, or would they be the result of genetic manipulation by
genetically altering a fetus and then putting it back?
A: No to latter. One clue: double Y chromosomes.
Q: (W) That’s male...
A: Nephilim were.
Q: (L) They, were male. Women are a double X, men are XY.
A: Prisons are filled with double Y’s with monstrous personality
almost always Caucasian and over- sized. Also, “bikers” often carry
We suggest you not share this in a general way on the net!!!
On tv they interviewed a serial killer. He was HUGE! He described
killing. The shrink who was analyzing said he did it because he
wanted to get caught. I did NOT get that feeling. I think he did it
just because it was what he did. Bikers often carry the gene... and
this is why they form ‘gangs.’ Nephilim. Bikers. Big. Caucasian. My,
my, my. Is there any other clue you can give?
A: Nephilim are not currently on your world, just trace residuals.
Q: (L) Trace residuals in people. And there are supposed to be 36
million of them coming...
A: With the wave.
Q: (L) That reminds me: is it possible that this comet cluster you
have talked about exists in 4th density?
Q: (L) The comet cluster is in 3rd density?
A: Transcends 3rd and 4th.
Q: (L) Okay, so it is both in 3rd and 4th...
A: It will be visible to you.
Q: (L) Well, everyone is having fits over Hale Bopp, is it related?
A: ? Many space objects currently or recently visible are
Q: (F) Well, on the news last night they reported that something had
been sighted in 1991 and 1992 that had not reappeared... they
thought it was a comet, then they said it wasn’t that, and they also
said it appeared to be pulsating. Even the astronomers were at a
loss about this thing that has disappeared.
Is this thing that was seen in 1991 and 1992 going to be part of
Q: (PZ) I understand that they are building the largest telescope
ever on top of a mountain in Peru. Is this telescope going to have
the ability to forewarn about the wave?
A: There is the ability to forewarn of the comet cluster, but not
the wave as it
is not visible. Question is whether or not warnings will be given
due to clandestine and political factors.
Q: (W) Well, they already have the technology and are searching the
skies with the SETI telescope in Puerto Rico.
A: SETISchmetti, W! SETI stands for “search for extra terrestrial
intelligence,” now why don’t you all start a search for a method to
invent indoor plumbing?
Q: (W) Well, you know, Carl Sagan...
(L) Oh, I know. And they are
always asking for money. Every time I get their mail-outs I write
across the top: “They are already here! When will you guys wake
up?!” And I send it back. Does Carl Sagan know that we have already
Q: (L) So, he is just lying?
Q: (L) Is there anything we ought to cover that we haven’t asked at
(MM) Yes. Was it Yogananda?
A: Learning is fun. Otherwise, you would still be riding your
complete with training wheels, and on that note, Good Night.
Q: Good Night. Thank You.
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