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Jen Sullivan is the author of three books dealing with her past life memories in Lemuria, Atlantis and even
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prior to that in a world that was dominated by the Watchers and her most recent book covers her life with the
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Watchers and what they did, what they looked like and how they behaved.
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Michael Salla. Well, welcome, Jen, to the show.
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Thank you for having me on again, Michael. It's great to see you.
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Yes. Well, it's been a couple of years, so people may not remember you. So, why don't you and for those that are new to the show, why don't you just uh explain
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how it is that you got to remember your the your past lives and maybe begin with how your first book was written.
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Most of course uh it was a very strange ordeal for me to begin with. Um, I was not someone who was very uh
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knowledgeable about past lives or into anything really, you know, beyond just uh what you would consider just
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mainstream stuff. And when I was living in the Florida Keys in 2017, my family
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and I had to evacuate for Hurricane Irma. Uh, the cat five hurricane came onto our island and destroyed
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everything, our house, our businesses, everything we owned. And uh when we returned to the keys to clean up our
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life and to try and restructure it once again, I found out that I was actually quite sick. I had developed a condition
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called pseudotumor cerebri and it had resulted in something called a subacoid hemorrhage. So I um was dealing with
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some issues of massive amounts of pressure put onto my brain and swelling on my brain. I also had the responsibility of taking care of three
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young children and rebuilding our lives and our businesses. And uh I was having a lot of trouble with mainstream medical
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uh specialists. I couldn't seem to get appointments. When I did, they weren't very concerned or helpful. My medical condition just kind of kept getting
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worse and stagnant at best. One day, a a friend of mine, a woman that I knew from school, uh, my children's school that I
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was a teacher at, came to me and asked if I would like to participate in an experiment that she was doing. It was a project for a hypnosis certificate that
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she wanted to obtain. She asked if I would like to do some free hypnosis with her, and I agreed. I didn't really know
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what kind of hypnosis it was. Um it was called quantum healing hypnosis or some people call it QHHT.
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But uh the sessions that we did I found not only were incredibly helpful with bringing on relaxation which allowed me
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to kind of hit a point of homeostasis again and allow for more drainage and feeling just a lot better with the swelling in my head. But it also brought
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back a lot of really interesting memories from what I believe was a past life of mine or several past lives of mine. I found it such an interesting
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story that I decided to write it down in a book and share it with others.
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That's wonderful that uh recalling your past life memory that that healed you and and I guess you know this is worth just like um getting people's attention.
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I mean, how important is it in terms of healing your own internal healing and um
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being able to deal with uh any kind of unresolved issues that you have? Is it to recall past lives?
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I think it's as important to to to basically encounter what is going on in our current day lives and the effect it
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will have on our health as it is important to consider what could have happened to us in other lifetimes that we carry with us in this lifetime
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without realizing it affecting the choices we make, the people that we choose to be around, the careers we look
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to obtain. And all of those things will in one way or another can affect our health. And I think it's coming to terms
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with who we are that kind of helps bridge a um bridge a gap in the world of understanding our medical ailments and
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what is bothering us and what is causing us pain. And um I didn't at first think that this was something that was
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possible. I didn't believe that encountering past life memories or working through things like that would actually help encourage a more healthful
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lifestyle and behavior, but for me it did. And I believe it has a lot to do with the past life that we uncovered and what happened to me in that past life.
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my ability to look at it and see it a bit differently and kind of bring it to um bring it to a more peaceful place in
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this lifetime I think has helped further finding a healthful way of living in this lifetime.
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So maybe just describe give us a summary of what it was that you remembered in that past lifetime that was the focus of your first book child of the universe.
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Definitely. So, my first images that I saw when I was going in to these hypnotic sessions were um the lifetime
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of a young woman in the 1970s. And this was my most previous past lifetime. I had just asked to see it. I was curious
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and I wanted to know, you know, what had happened to me before I came into this existence.
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Uh, I was a young woman who lived in New York City who ultimately um ended her life at the end of the 1970s because of
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quite a few different things. I write about it in my second book, The Gift of the Stars, to help better understand this um why this woman decided to end
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her life that way. And what we further found going into the sessions was that she had also discovered past lifetimes
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in that lifetime. And it was the discovery of these past lifetimes that led her down that path. So we went further and further and further back
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into further past lifetimes and found the lifetime of Atlantis where and Lemuria which I write about in uh the
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child of the universe book the first book I wrote.
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So in that lifetime in Atlantis and Lamura, you had a life where these red crystals
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were important and maybe just kind of like explain what those red crystals were all about and and how important that was to the Lamurans and what it was
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that the Atlanteanss kind of like wanted from the Lamurans in terms of those red crystals that led to the destruction and
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and so forth. Of course. So, this was one of the more interesting things that I had noticed about this lifetime was uh
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I had existed in this lifetime, I'd say maybe about 50,000 years ago, give or take, you know, whatever you want to go
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with around that realm, as the heir to a throne of a place that would doesn't
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exist anymore. It's a lost continent, a lost land. It was destroyed during my lifetime. And in this lifetime, I was
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being trained to be the leader of this land. My mother and my grandmother had both been leaders. My mother was the current leader. And I had spent my
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entire life being prepared to take on this role. We used red crystals together. Uh the three of us, we had been born with innate powers that we had
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inherited from our ancestors. ancestors that we felt were linked to visitors from the stars who had originally come
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and hybridized humans and created uh a bit of a colonization of of human
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hybrids here many many many generations before that lifetime. We used these red crystals to kind of communicate with
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what we thought were our ancestors, uh our our spiritual guidance. Probably was more of us tapping into like a universal
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energy, a uh like an aashic record, something to that effect. But we were able to tap into it and to communicate
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and to gain advice on how to run our kingdom and how to benefit the people the most. We tried to use them in the
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best ways possible, but we also knew they were very sacred. So we were the only ones who were allowed to touch them. That is until we were visited by
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um people we didn't know existed who had been watching us very carefully and did know about the crystals.
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Well, that's very interesting. So with these red crystals, essentially those of
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you that lived in that era in Lamura knew how to access these crystals or
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communicate and in a way that empowered you to be able to do things. And I I recall uh from the book, I mean some
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amazing things like controlling the weather and and being able to heal all of these things. and and the the
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Atlanteanss who were contemporaries used technologies for those things. And I guess at at some point they became very
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jealous or envious that you could do these things using this kind of crystal and and and enhanced abilities whereas
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they had to use technology and they craved that. You want to elaborate on that?
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Sure. the Atlantanss or the PE what we called the the others in in that lifetime. Uh we encountered their their
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need for the crystals when they came to us suddenly one day. They appeared they asked about the healing technology of the crystals and they were specifically
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interested because in their society they also were an island civilization. They had encountered a virus and the virus
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had taken down many of their people. It had nearly crumbled their society within this virus. The leader of that that
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civilization at the time was about to be uprooted because they could no longer hold their political place there with the failure of their response to this
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virus. And with that they had known of us. They had known of our abilities and our red crystals. But they had also done
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this very covertly. So when they did come to us and ask about the red crystals, we were taken by surprise that anyone even existed out there in in this manner beyond us and our civilization.
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They had come seeking a cure and they were not going to leave until they received the crystals. They were were
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actually very familiar with the crystals just through legends of their own. They had lost their own crystals, but their primary civilization had been founded
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around the same time as ours also by visitors from um a mother planet. And so we were actually just colonizations that
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had lost track of each other that were, you know, raised simultaneously. Their crystals being gone, they had to depend
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on their technology and that was how they advanced. And we advanced more spiritually because we did have the crystals still and were able to
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facilitate them. Uh it created a boundary on our island that um most people didn't get sick in what we would
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call Leamura. I call ammon. A mu n is what the name that I um understood it to be at the time.
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It was uh definitely something that we were willing to share with them, but it wasn't something that they wanted to share. They they wanted them. They
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needed them. And they were very forceful about getting these crystals to the point where they ended up taking uh my
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mother and and you know killing my my mother and that lifetime over it. And they also put me in a position where I
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encountered a massive wave that they created that they sent towards our society.
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Right? So essentially they uh used their technology to create these earth changes or a giant tidal wave to wipe out your
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your society at that at that time. So it's very interesting that
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your society chose to evolve spiritually without technology. So you didn't have flying ships or anything and and you didn't know about this other
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civilization out there, but they of course developed technologically and they knew all about you and monitored you and and eventually when they had a
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need, they just wanted to step in and and take control of whatever it was that they deemed to be of great value.
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Truly, it was not a negotiation. It was very much a a mission that was not going to, you know, we weren't going to be
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saying no to them for this. And when we did, it had serious repercussions. They realized that they could take what they wanted and just get rid of all of us and
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not have to deal with any type of responsibility for their behavior.
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Right. Okay. So, so you covered that in your your first book, Child of the Universe, and what happened to you. And I remember reading that and it was very very
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moving. Now, with your u most recent book, The Daughters of Man, um well, you
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already mentioned your second book uh A Gift of the Stars, where you had that life as Christy and and how people
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didn't believe you at that time about your past life experiences. So maybe, yeah, I mean, that's kind of like worth
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addressing the the kind of skepticism people had then. I mean even now there's still skepticism and I'm sure you've
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encountered that if you start talking about well you know I remember my past lives people will be like what what are you talking about and uh you know
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there's that skepticism now but thankfully it it's much more open and people will want to hear you even though the vast majority will be skeptical but
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I guess it was in New York in the in the 1970s you remember yes and and that there was that skepticism
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so yeah just you want just explain exactly how difficult it was to tell people about past life experiences and being taken seriously.
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Well, in that lifetime, I encountered a a serious amount of well, abuse and skepticism in that lifetime. And I think
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the combination of both of them led to a very drastic downturn for me in that existence. I recall being a woman whose
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name was Christy. And I was a young woman at this point in what I recall being in my late 19 2021 era right
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around that time. And with this, I recall working for a news station in New
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York City. And while I was working for this news station, I was living with my boyfriend's mother. And she had a friend
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who would come over and offer to do hypnosis sessions. something she herself had just recently found out about moving back from California. She had gotten
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into things like transcendental meditation and whatnot. And she felt a very specific connection with me. So I started to do these sessions with her in
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this past lifetime. And what we uncovered was this lifetime of Kala back in Atlantis that I write about um in
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child of the universe. Well, the woman who was my practitioner, the woman who was doing the sessions with me in that
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lifetime was actually more interested in kind of exposing what this was and and making a name for herself with it and
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treated me very poorly throughout the whole experience. Um, when I went to uh
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someone friends of mine at my news station where I worked or people that I knew with and I told them a bit about the sessions, they thought I was
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absolutely nuts. And my boss ended up uh cuz in in the 1970s in in New York, if a woman was acting irrational and a man
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more or less wanted to, you know, have her checked out, they could just commit you. And so at then that lifetime
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I was taken and brought to what I believe is Bell Hospital in New York and committed there. And it was during my time there that I was badly abused by
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what would have been some of the doctors there. And it just led to a place where I couldn't continue my life. It was very
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very horrific. But understanding those past lifetime memories and trying to bring them to light in that lifetime, I
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felt like was something I was charged with and I was I failed in it. And so with my next incarnation, I believe that
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I was told, you know, I decided that in this lifetime, I would have to try again. I'd have to look at it again. I'd have to rationalize it again and try to
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come to terms with how people will feel about this when I say it to them.
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because most people who knew me before this understood me as someone who I have two master's degrees from from universities in London. I have a vast
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education. I have a long experience of journalism working for top news agencies. But most people wouldn't look at me and say that's the woman who sits
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there and talks about her past lives. So I think for even people who knew me, it was a bit of a it was hard to understand at first. But
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for me, it's all been more of what it means to me in this current life rather than let's go back and keep looking at the past. And I try to always keep it
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very present and very very uh fruitful to myself and everyone around me as far as what I've come to understand about
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this all. So, you know, with with the recall of past lives, I mean, is it something similar to like how we might
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remember our childhood in terms of like the memories that we have to concentrate and and and and we can remember certain
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things from our from our childhood or Yeah. Can you just explain how a past life is recalled?
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Um, my favorite way to explain it is this. Um, when I was younger and I was a child, my grandmother would start
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cooking up some, you know, Sicilian pasta sauce on the stove and you could smell those smells and they had a very distinct, you know, you you could place
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that with that memory. That's kind of what it's like to remember these past life memories. It's like that smell comes back to you and all of a sudden
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you're back there in that kitchen and you can't believe you forgot all about it, but your brain has just pushed it somewhere else while you deal with your
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everyday life. The smell is still there and it's just this automatic trigger that pulls you back to these places. But
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I think for most people, it's not very easy to go back and recall what these triggers are because I think when we
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come into our new existences, it's more important that we don't remember things right away. I think we have to have a chance to develop this life and develop
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this personality and develop who we are meant to be in this existence without that heavy remembrance. But for some of
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us, it's not, you know, it they they sneak through, they trickle through, you know.
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Okay. Well, now let's talk about uh your your most recent book and the the watches which you describe in the
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Daughters of Man. So you want to tell us uh you know who who are the watchers?
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The watchers to me as I've come to understand them were a group that came to earth during uh presumerian times
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called the Anunnaki. And I was not very knowledgeable about the Anunnaki or any of this before I had this uh past
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lifetime this session where I came to understand it. I only knew from the session kind of what they looked like,
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what their um uniform looked like. And from that, I was able to draw the lines together afterwards and make sense a bit
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more of what they were and who they were. But to us, we were primitive people who had survived a mega
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cataclysm. Uh we had lived in caves for a long time, generations, just to escape the outside hazardous conditions. And
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when we reemerged from these caves, we had set up factions around the land outside of Sumeriia so that some would
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fish, some would farm, and we would all come together and trade and be able to live, you know, more prosperous lives as a result. But we always knew at one
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point or another that we may be revisited by people who had enslaved our people once before. And we called them the watchers. And so in this lifetime I
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was a woman named Sarah and I encountered them in in many ways and they definitely shaped the course of that entire lifetime.
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So can you describe what they look like?
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Were they like just very large human looking? I mean was there anything distinct about them or different about
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how they looked? I mean apart from their size of course. So, the interesting thing is their their um their uniform,
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their um protective gear didn't allow for us to actually see their faces, but their the shape of their body was very
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humanoid. The only difference was they were much larger than us. When I'm I'm talking where we were probably on
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average 5t maybe, you know, around five and 1/2 ft on average, they would topple
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in at about 8 and 1/2 to 9, possibly even 10 ft tall. They were very broad as well. They were very, you know, just
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very big, muscular, just a dominant kind of apex species that came in and
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returned looking for a bit more. They had uh come to us kind of seeking
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food, uh, different types of minerals, different types of things that they could build with. But I think the most important thing was they were coming
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back to rebuild a civilization that they could no longer return to. Whatever had happened on their home planet, we understood was it was no longer
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inhabitable and we were all that was left like Earth was for our kind. So with the watchers, as we we further
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began to understand them, we realized that they were also what we would call like celestial cousins of ours that we were all part of an experiment from this
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home planet. As similar as Atlantis and Lamura were both colonizations on Earth from this home planet, there were other
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colonizations on other planets by the home planet. They developed bigger uh features than us because of evolutionary
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traits. they had more uh resources on their planet. They had less cataclysms that stopped their development at different points. And so that was how they developed.
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When we also encountered another group uh in this book, we found out that they too had developed a bit differently. So
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I could talk about that a little bit later on, but one big celestial family is what it all came down to.
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Right. So, so with the watches, I mean, they wore these uniforms and you didn't see their faces. So, so were these kind
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of like like a like a space suit, an exoskeleton which enabled them to kind of breathe in
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the atmosphere? I mean, could they breathe the the same air?
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They had I don't feel like they needed um special equipment for breathing, but the machiner like the the way that their
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uniforms, their protective gear was shaped was very interesting. It was a type of black metal that I had never seen in that lifetime. And it was um
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almost a bit matte but very very strong and flexible with the body. And it would
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be like a strip strip strip strip of black. And then like in between you could see an underlying of a deep dark
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red underneath the strips of black that all kind of went together like this. Um along their breastplates and just
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covered arms, covered fingers, covered all the way down to their feet. Um their faces as well. They had a type of uh
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glass, maybe some type of uh visionary block there where they could see us but we couldn't see them.
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And it was definitely intimidating to say the least to look up to something that big and that powerful and know you
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are definitely not up to that. You're you're you're tiny in that comparison.
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Right. And you mentioned that they were very robust and very powerful and had had technology and and so forth. Now you
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you mentioned living in cage at that time and that uh you had been survivors of some uh cataclysm.
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And so we're talking about a society in that area, in that region around Sumeriia
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that was uh pre-atlantean, pre-Lamuran, even maybe prehyporian.
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Mhm. I believe that the cave system is most likely located somewhere between Iraq and Iran, somewhere around the
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Zaros mountain range in that area. the the system that we had developed within these caves preceded our group and and many others by several generations.
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There was what we understood was a um comet or some type of asteroid that came
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and struck Earth and it caused so many different climate weather changes. It made living and growing and existing
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outside underneath the sun almost impossible for many many generations. So our people had found well not found but
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we had strategically planned for a very long time that something like this could happen or any other danger. So we had this cave system that we had designed. I
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talk a little bit about it in my first book as well in another past life that I mentioned where we lived in the caves and finally found our way out of them.
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But in this lifetime we've been out of the caves for probably seven maybe probably five seven generations at this point. And we had split up into seven
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factions all throughout the land. And my family was in the fishing faction. So we took care of fishing, drying fish, and we all lived on the water.
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So you want to tell us about this custom that the watchers had that the firstborn female would be handed over to them for breeding purposes.
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Yes. So that was also part of our long-standing legends and traditions. We were prepared from birth and I was in
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that lifetime the eldest daughter of my family. All the eldest daughters would be put in a specific cultural position
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in our our factions. You would be prepared to one day become the wife and
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breeding agent to these watchers if they were to ever return. But they had not returned in so long that we no longer
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believed they were going to return. So the eldest daughters were often educated in areas such as medicine, childbirth, things like that. But we never were we
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were not allowed to marry. We didn't have to marry because we would have to kind of hold ourselves there for these watchers should they return. In this
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lifetime, my father was one of the the head people of our fishing village, and he didn't believe they were coming back.
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And instead of holding me as a uh a potential bride and a reservation for that, he tried to marry me off to the
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son of another head of another one of our seven factions. And it was during
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this arrangement that we were visited by the watchers and they believed my father had invoked the return of the watchers
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by instigating this marriage and breaking our traditions. So it was uh a very you know it probably wasn't the
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best time to be alive as a woman but you know right okay so you in that particular
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life you were the first born and you you're being earmarked for the the watchers but they they they're not
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around and so you're about to be married off to another faction and then the the watchers show up and and and the your
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father in that life kind of led a rebellion against the the watches. So So what happened?
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So as we are encountering the this, you know, we're making these wedding plans.
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I'm definitely not having it, being rebellious in my own way. Um my father is gone to this next faction, this other
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village, and he's making the plans for us to be married. And suddenly the Watchers just they they return one
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night. I recall in the that lifetime looking up at the night sky and we all knew something was out there. We could all feel something was out there. And
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when many of us left, we we lived in these huts that were woven out of the reeds uh that grew in that area, these
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big beautiful majestic huts. And we walked outside of them and you could see these these crafts, these these lights
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coming down from the sky. And it looked like they were kind of, you know, searching for people, searching and and checking out what this was with these big strong beams of light coming down.
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And it felt like you couldn't move as they were going and they were exploring with these lives. You were almost paralyzed looking at the light, seeing
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it. And that first night, I recall them not having any interaction with us that we just saw the light. And the next day
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I was summoned to go to that village to be married. And when I arrived at that village to be married along with quite a
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few other young women, we realized that the marriage was now going to be the one that we had been told for many
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generations was going to be our marriage. That the watchers were now here. They had arrived and my father had spoken with them and the other leader
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had spoken with them and they were going to come and take their wives.
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with this um wedding ceremony, my father was trying to convince in the in the hours that were leading up until us
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being offered over to the watchers to tell the people like we don't have to live our lives like this. Like consider for a moment what we're doing. We're
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handing our daughters over and we're we're giving them permission to do this and to take over right now. It's the last opportunity we may have to regain
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our sovereignty over ourselves and to rid us of these people for for ever. Why are we going to enable them with, you
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know, these beautiful young women, their ability to have more children, and, you know, we're just going, we're going to destroy ourselves in this decision. And
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nobody would really listen to him. And as we were brought before the Watchers and we were offered before them, my father even took one last try of trying
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to physically fight against the Watchers who were twice the size of him easily.
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And uh, it turned into a massacre. It turned into a situation where just the women who were meant to be the wives
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were put into a tr it's not even a trance, but a place where you just can't move. You're literally frozen while everyone around you is moving and you're
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just kept in this kind of frozen protective bubble is the best way I could put it. But we couldn't respond.
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But around me at this wedding, everyone was just being massacred by these giants everywhere. And it was it was actually
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it was terrifying to go back in my past life memories and to see it. It was not a pleasant session where I walked away from it going, "Wow, that was that was a
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great day. I'm glad I relooked at that." It was actually very disturbing.
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And when the fighting was over, most of the people were of of our kind were gone. All of the young women who had
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been with me were being taken onto the ship. I was left because I was injured in the battle and I had been cut by one
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of the the weapons of the Watchers. They had these kind of laser I guess laser is the best way to put it.
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It's very simple to say that. But it was something that was able to make a very deep cut along my lower abdomen.
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And so I was left for dead. They believed I was dead. when they were gone, I was able to get to a point where
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I was able to kind of get myself up and get away from the situation, get away from the bodies that had fallen on top of me and clear begin my walk back home
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and just try to get back to where my family had been to warn them that they were coming. And you know, by the time I
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got back to my family, their village had been burnt down. All of the mounds that we lived on out on the the water,
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everything had been burnt. and my uh I I was just kind of stuck at that point. I
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was hurt. I was damaged. I didn't think I was going to live much longer. So, I kind of just sat down in the ashes of my
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people, the bones of my family, and I just sat down and prepared myself to die, but I didn't. It was surprising.
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So, where did the the three beings from another extraterrestrial civilizations come into the picture? I mean, is is
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that I I know you in the book you describe hiding in caves and being helped by some some people from another
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faction and then eventually the the the three beings uh showed up. So, you want to explain that other group?
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Of course. So, after that happened, I was um saved by what we call a journeyman. And the journeymen would go
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between factions trading for us and bringing news of what was going on to the leaders. Um we called the leaders big man. Uh and that was just what their
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name was and what we called them is what I remembered. So when the journeyman found me in this
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position, he was able to put me in a hide me for a while until I healed and bring me to the cave systems that our
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people had been in. And within the cave systems, he taught me my way around. He taught me how to maneuver through the
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caves in darkness, how to find water, how to find food, how to go out very quickly in the early morning hours and do a bit of foraging so I could survive and I could sustain myself for a while.
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And I was left alone for quite a bit of time until um one day we encount the the watchers found me and they found the
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journeyman coming to find me. With everything that we knew about the cave systems, we were able to lure them into
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the cave systems and kind of trap them in there and leave them for dead.
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Hopefully they were dead. Who knows? But within all that, the journeyman said to me, "We can't stay in the caves anymore.
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It's not safe for you with them there.
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We're going to put you in a position where you're going to be hidden in plain sight. And so I traveled with him to another faction where I was made the
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wife of a big man. And this was our biggest faction. They were the ones who grew fruit. They had fruit trees and we were a big food staple of the whole all the factions there that were left.
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um my life with him was a very interesting one where I learned I learned a lot and through learning with
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him I was involved in the building of the ziggurat and through the probably what we'd call the first university or
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the first big school of that time all of this we did under the watch of the watchers all of it was done because they
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allowed us to do it and they had a relationship with my husband the big man and They felt that he had been a good
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person to work with because he had begun to build the ziggurat already and they felt that was a tribute to them and he was the one that was you know it it was
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just a coincidence but he was given a position of power amongst them and from that point we ran this this faction
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together trying to at the same time undermine the watchers trying to bring them down. We were very unsuccessful
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though and the entire kingdom one day, the entire faction, all of everything that was there ends up being covered in
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a massive landslide. This big muddy ravine that just kind of starts flowing down from the tops of the mountains.
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Everyone [sighs and gasps] tries to find a place to go. Everyone tries to save themselves. And instead of being saved or saving myself in this
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lifetime, myself and my daughter who I had with me, we were taken on board a ship and abducted onto the ship into
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this great white light while this flooding was happening all around us. We didn't know at the time. We thought it
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was the watchers who had come to get us, but it was actually a different group.
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It was a group of three um beings who came from yet another colonization from the home planet. So it wasn't just us
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and the Watchers that were left. There was another group. And from them we learned that there had been a massive
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war between the Watchers and this other group of the three beings that they had fought and that they the Watchers had
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found them that they found out there were other colonies. And so they went to go and and take over their society. They were also a society that had developed a
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bit more technologically uh advanced stuff compared to where we were as a group at that point. But they had failed. They had lost their battle.
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There were only three of their kind even left. And those three had found their way to Earth because of the colonies that were set up by the home planet. We
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were the only ones that were earth was the only habit h um habitable place that was left if that makes sense.
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Okay. Now you've mentioned home planet a few times. So and this was the planet
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with the beings that had set up the experiments that had created the watchers created these other three beings and created humanity in in
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genetic experiments. So yeah what what do you know about this home planet?
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Well, if you recall from the first book in Child of the Universe, I talk about the commander and the lifetime of the commander and what it was like to be a a
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a pilot or a captain at coming to this new planet, this uh new colony to set up
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this new, you know, continuation of our planet within that that for us for for
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me was my first glimpse into the larger work, the larger picture here. So the the more I began to understand about it,
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I understood that the home planet was a planet that was a largely glowing blue sphere and outside of its realm was a
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red a smaller red planet and this is our home planet is what I came to understand. This is where we have all come from where we have all evolved
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from. Not only us but what we would call the watchers, what we would call also the three beings from this next planet.
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um we were their last kind of bastion into survival from the home planet. Their
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planet was about to expire and all three of us developed very differently as a species because of the you know the
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conditions that we have on our planets and the things that we had to face as as a group societies. So the watchers ended
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up becoming very dominating and very big and very uh invasive. Whereas the other
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group with the three beings, they were a bit more reserved, a bit more um peaceful in their approach. And so they were easily taken down by the Watchers.
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After both planets were pretty much left uninhabitable between their wars, they saw Earth as the last place that they
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could begin their and rebuild their civilizations. And they saw the people of Earth, the Earthlings here, as a uh a
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good source of labor, a good source of future breeding stock. And you know, that's pretty much how it all it all we
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all ended up in the same place at the same time. And it kind of felt like it was something that had been evolving towards
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what had been meant to be for so for a very long time that we would eventually all come together as the last uh
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remnants of this home planet and have to move forward together to what's next after Earth as a result of this.
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Now, the the watchers were taking women as wives. And of course, you you have
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some biblical p uh passages in the book of Enoch referring to the fallen angels uh taking the daughters of uh man as as
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wives and creating these hybrid children or these the Nephilim as they were described in the Old Testament and in
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the the the book of Enoch. So is this the pretty much the same process that essentially they were taking wives and
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and with these wives I mean they're breeding with them so they're having sexual relations and producing offspring. Was that what was happening?
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Oh most definitely. That was probably one of the more fearsome roles like parts of that lifetime was the fact that there was definitely not just a a
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voluntary offering of your body being given to these beings for procreation, but this was done against most women's,
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you know, will at that point. When the Bible describes it and in those passages, it it comes off as, oh, well, wasn't that
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great? There was a bunch of women there and they gave them babies and everything kind of worked out all right. But in this lifetime, it paints a very different picture of what it was like to
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actually have to go through that process and what it was like to be considered nothing more than just an offering to to
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people who were looking to dominate over our species. And it shows a little bit
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less of what a great group of omnipotent beings these these were seen as
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historically and a bit more of the the part of our humanity that we don't really like to talk about that we saw in
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the watchers the the darkness that could be within us the domination the the need the you know
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all of that. So you want to talk a little bit now about the the hybrid children that were uh created through
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these um marriages uh between the watchers and the firstborn daughters of of the different factions at that time.
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So the daughters were all um they tried to be they tried to impregnate them right away. Unfortunately, you know,
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they were very large, they were very violent, they were very rough. Not all of the women actually survived through that first process. Now, if you did and
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you became pregnant with their with a hybrid child, one of the bigger threats at that point was that these children were very large. They were much larger
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than a human woman would be able to carry successfully to term without her own life becoming endangered. And so
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that seemed to be one of the reasons they would constantly be seeking new wives. And we would have a yearly and sometimes more often than yearly uh
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offering where we would bring all of the young women, the oldest daughters who were now of age, who were now menstruating and capable of carrying on
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this tradition would just be replaced by the ones who would pass away after childirth. They would take the children um these hybrids
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and they were very large. Most of them were incredibly large um for for human size and the mothers could not satisfy
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the children with their with their mother's milk. They couldn't seem to bond with the children as well. There was a very strange um gap between that
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maternal instinct and our maternal need to nurture and and care for and then what came out of them and what they were encountering. Um most of the women
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weren't even allowed to stay with their children for very long if they did survive it. And if you did survive it, you were just put back into the rotation
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and you would go for another round and see how long that would go. So it was a constant fear in that lifetime of being taken by them and just being made into
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their wife because you it was mostly a death sentence for a majority of the women there.
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Now w with the watchers, I mean were they exclusively male? I mean were there any female watches? I mean why wouldn't the watchers kind of breed among
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themselves? I mean or was the hybrid children uh were the hybrid children used to kind of like replenish the number of the watchers?
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I think their society was a bit more masculine dominated. I don't feel that the women of the watcher society were allowed to participate and this is my
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own instinct. I don't know for sure, but I don't feel that women were allowed to participate in activities like they were when this group I'd say it was less than
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probably less than like 200 of them that came to Earth. When this group came, this group was probably part of some
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like larger, you know, um, grouping within their military, something to that effect, and they were sent off to go and
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and per, you know, do this, go and find some and and do what was left. I don't know if they actually had the capabilities of bringing a woman with
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them or continuing that. Not 100% sure on like why they needed earth women, but I know in the past they had already bred
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with earth women before. So perhaps they saw there were benefits to it and that's why they continued. Mhm. Well, well, that's certainly the the image we get
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from the Old Testament and and of course the book of Enoch where they describe the 200 fallen angels that arrived and
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into bred with women that these were males that they weren't there weren't females among them. So yeah, the image
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is one of like maybe 200 prisoners or 200 beings from another world that are banished to Earth and and they have some
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technology and they use that to dominate and fly around.
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That was pretty much my impression of what it was as far as what I experienced in that lifetime. I didn't see women amongst them. I also didn't see their
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faces. So I I could have been encountering a woman, but I wouldn't have known, you know, I wouldn't have been able to see the difference between
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their body shape, sizes, and make that distinction. But no, um, they they definitely came off as more of a male dominating race to me.
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And and with the the hybrid children, I mean, what was their fate to be? Were they to kind of live among the watchers
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and be part of that group's kind of like whatever culture they had or were their
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role to like stay on the earth and play a leadership role over the rest of humanity?
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What I recall in the beginning their their role was the children were kept separate from all other children. um the like non-hybridized children, they were
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kept very close to um a specific area where when the watchers would come and visit and um come to collect their
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offerings, we would have to have like quarterly offerings of food and and minerals and whatnot to provide for them. They would then check on the
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children. They would see that we were doing a good job, but we only had um we had like almost like an orphanage for them, but it wasn't that they were
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orphaned. It was just their own facility where they were kept and they were treated differently. They were educated
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differently and they were not allowed to mix with commoners. So it was uh very
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much its own like incubated thing for the young hybrid children. the children also um I mean not the pe the
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children the the people uh that survived that were in these different factions our original factions were enslaved completely all men were meant to work
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every day to toil outside to build structures to work on what would become the ziggurat what would eventually become our our educational system they
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were just worked and worked and worked the women were also worked those who weren't being pulled into motherhood for
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The purpose of hybridized children were left to work in the fields. We had to grow food. We had to constantly be
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mining things for them. And it was just work every day over and over and over again, just completely enslaved by them.
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Okay. So these hybrid children from the watchers, they would live among the the different factions, the ordinary humans.
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And of course, because they were much larger and physically robust and and you would imagine that they had the kind of
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some in higher capacity for technology or interest in technology that they would very quickly become the the ruling
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class once they achieved adulthood. Was that pretty much what happened?
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That was the intention for all of it. so that they would always feel that they were bigger, better, superior, and that they would know that from birth, and
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they'd understand that they were meant to grow, to be the leaders of this new world, that there was no going back to
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the old world for them, that this was um something that they were being that they were placed there to help recreate what we had left behind on this other on the
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Watchers planet. and uh you know male and female alike. It didn't matter if it was just a son that was born, if it was
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a daughter as well, they were all taken in and and treated the same. There were very few people who were allowed to care for the children. Um and it had to be
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done on a very specific, very strict regimen to prepare them for what they considered would be the leadership role they were going to take on one day.
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Okay. So I assume that these hybrid children were were helped uh by the watchers to become the the new ruling
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class of humanity which is which echoes what the uh book of Genesis and of Enoch
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say that the the watchers created the Nephilim who became the men of renown the new leaders leadership class and of
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course that lasted for for many many centuries even thousands of years according to the historical records could still be going on right now if you really want to look very closely at it.
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It it affected everything up until our current day in my mind when I look back at these past life memories and I
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consider what we could have been as opposed to what we had to become to survive this and it's uh it's no longer
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us and them anymore. When I look at the hybridization that occurred there, we have become all one unfortunately or
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fortunately whatever ends up being the result of it.
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So you know what would be the kind of main takeaway for people today the viewers watching this in terms of you
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know that lifetime and what you learn from the watchers and you know what's its relevance today?
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Well, I I look at what is going on in that area specifically of the world. Uh where
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that would have taken place and there's nothing but upset, unsettlement. There is nothing but but thousand-year-old
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fights that are still continuing between what we would call cousins there as well right now. And I think what started in that lifetime is what we are
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continuously seeing in the deevolvement and destabilization of the Middle East.
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And if the knowledge, if what I'm remembering is correct, and if what I've come to understand through these past
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life memories is actual information, then we have been set up our entire
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lives for thousands of years to be nothing more than this continued enslavement to this system that was created a very long time ago. We've just
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been [laughter] we've just been conditioned to think that these are our gods, that these are the things that we're supposed
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to be obeying because they're holy and and whatnot. But in reality, we have just been misled by people who have
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mistreated us and taken us and used us for thousands of generations now at this
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point. So, it's the perspective for me shifts in that manner. It makes me see things a bit differently than just why can't we all just get along, you know?
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Well, you know, there have been some that say that the current conflict in Iran is all about controlling these portals and and and giants that are
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awakening in Iran. So, I mean, how likely is it that that's connected to
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the Watchers? I mean, could the Watchers be located in secret bases in Iran?
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Could they be in stasis chambers or something hibernating and and they're about to awaken?
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I think the most dangerous possibility is that they exist within us and we are
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still continuing their message and their their their pathway through ourselves without even
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realizing what we're doing anymore as as a human species that we've been so infiltrated by their powerful message that even though they may be gone
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completely, we are still under their control. and not being able to see it for what it is leaves us in a position of disempowerment entirely as a species.
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Mhm. So when you say that I mean you're talking about them influencing our
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mindset, our belief systems and you know in a way we kind of do the things to one another that the watchers used to do to
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to humans but that the but the original watches you know how do they play into all of this? I mean, they are they are
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they off planet? Are they in the inner earth? Are they imprisoned in Antarctica or what what do you think may have happened to those guys?
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I'm sure there is probably a lot of different um scenarios and explanations because there were quite a few of them
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as to what happened. I personally don't feel that there uh was anything in my sessions
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that I saw of them still being alive in a position where they're integrating with us from that point. So from 6 7,000
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years ago, those same beings, but should you consider the cultural conditioning that has resulted because of what they
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brought here? I I find that in itself to be way more of a you know we we ourselves have now become the the
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watchers in in that type of cultural conditioning. How do you free yourself from something like that when you yourself have now become the perpetrator
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unvoluntarily and and through all of this type of conditioning? So I think that was the strongest understanding for
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me of where they are now. I don't know if they're on some type of secret base or if maybe they're under a volcano somewhere. They there could be possibly,
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but for me that wasn't the information that I um received that was most pertinent to what I was trying to understand at the time.
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So I mean just looking at uh these past life memories uh all three books that you've you've written. So is the major
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takeaway here that what we have is that you know currently we ourselves uh there are those among us who achieve high
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positions of power and use technology to to dominate the rest of society and there are many others that are kind of
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like more spiritual in outlook and that they develop empathy and love and so
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what what what is the the kind take away from all of this? I mean, is is it those that are more empathic, more
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loving, uh not so technologically oriented, is it important for them to like learn how to use technology, how to
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deal with these aggressive beings or like psychopaths that run our world using technology or or do they need to
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go deeper into their spirituality, develop an expanded sense of who they are?
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Well, I think for most people the big takeaway would be that let [clears throat] me see what's the best
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way to put this. You really want to look at who we have been influenced to become as
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a result of all of this and the understanding of who they are as leaders and and what this has all become for us.
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Now, you know, we're living in some very interesting times. And when we look at our history, we don't always see our history for what it is. We see history
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written by the winners. Uh I think as a result of being able to look back and possibly be seeing history as a result
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of not through the winner's eyes, but through the losers's eyes of the people who have had to fall and adapt and and give way to the the power of these
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larger beings. It it leads us to I just feel like it's a different understanding that comes from the whole
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process of it. And we see ourselves differently and as a result of that perception shift, it allows us to act differently in our lifetimes. And I
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think that is the motivation for where I'm going with all of it is that we are in a desperate place of needing motivated change in our society. And I
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see the only way of us ever getting past most of this is to release this cultural conditioning that stems from that point
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in history. Um, if you look a little bit more into the book at um, the three beings that we talked about a little
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while ago, the three beings who um, took me and saved me from the watchers, we ended up creating more hybridized
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children with them as well. So inside most of us human beings may be the watchers DNA, there may be the original
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humans DNA at that point. There may be the three beings DNA. Maybe there's a combination of all three. And when we consider ourselves to be this
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combination of complex ideas that don't always agree with each other, it kind of shows why we have so many issues as humans on this planet.
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Like why we can't all agree on one thing, why some of us have to destroy, why some of us have to be spiritual and find our our sanity and our our our um
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our sense of self within that spirituality. um just so much of it has been conditioned upon us that the ultimate point of us overthrowing it I
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think will lead to our next step of evolution as a species fully combined all three different types or possibly
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more types that I'm not aware of uh just coming together and moving past the past and seeing it for what it is and knowing
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what it was and being able to maneuver from the past into the future with that knowledge.
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So I know today I mean you have people like Ellen Musk talking about these neural implants that can kind of like
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create cybernetic gods that we can become like you know in god develop godlike powers by having these
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technological implants put into us. And I'm sure there are those that would do it for health purposes,
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but maybe there will be those that will do it for acquisition of power or jobs and security, whatever the motivation.
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Uh, but others and and I assume the majority of humans wouldn't want to have anything to do with that and would want to like become more self-empowered. So,
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so how do you how would you do that? How do you become more self-empowered?
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um especially given your kind of like this ability to be able to recall past
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lives. Is is that part of the process of becoming self-empowered?
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I think the authenticity of understanding who you truly are and what you have been through as a soul through many past incarnations is a very
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humbling experience. And through all of that, if if you choose to take the lessons and and utilize them in your
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everyday life, then I think that is, you know, a technology that they can't
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uh manipulate you with because it comes from a true authentic place within you and your own understanding.
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Um, so much stuff nowadays I feel is meant to distract us from this understanding that's meant to pull us
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further and further from the idea of who we have been as a species, who we have been as humans, who we have been before we were humans. And the concept to keep
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that hidden is very powerful. It holds a lot of power over us because if you don't know who you are, you spend most of your lifetime and your existence
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trying to figure it out. If we weren't spending all that time trying to figure it out and trying to understand why we're all just trying to kill each
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other, maybe we could move forward into something completely different that we've never experienced before. M. Now,
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do you feel in terms of your journey and recalling these past lives and having gone through QHHT
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that you have [snorts] a an ability to to be able to connect with
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your higher self with an expanded sense of who you are and that's kind of like helped you in your journey?
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I will tell you that in my journey through QHHT or any other form of hypnosis that I encountered, I have
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probably done hundreds of hours of sessions with those practitioners, I realized through all of these sessions
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that the ability to connect back to this place, to connect back to these memories is
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actually a very easy process. It's just something we're not used to and it's something we don't really understand very well or trust. But once I became
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very comfortable with the pathway of being able to access them, I recall very deeply as a child being able to do the same thing when I was younger. That same
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sensation, that same feeling, that same passageway back. It wasn't something new once I became comfortable with it. It was something very familiar and
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something that had been lost to me through conditioning and through having to grow up and and um assimilate into
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this kind of a world and planet and you know that kind of stuff isn't seen as useful or helpful. It's seen as something that ostracizes you from the rest of society. So you push it away.
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But I think something like this is very easy for people to get back into and to to connect with. We're just not
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confident in our abilities there. And doing so many hours of sessions, my confidence in doing that grew and grew.
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So, I don't feel like I have any type of ability more than you would or anyone else. I just have become so comfortable and confident in my ability to get there that it's easy now.
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Okay. So what would you kind of like uh recommend to people that are maybe interested in recalling their own past
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lives or interested in any of the issues that that you've raised or what would you recommend to my viewers? I would
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recommend there is really for me no difference between a session that costs you $7 800 and you being able to sit in
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a quiet isolated place with a notepad and a recorder and perhaps a YouTube um
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uh guided meditation and for you to begin on your own recalling memories from your past lives. I would definitely
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start with something simple, perhaps three different scenarios in your life where you encountered something that you kind of pointed out like stands out in
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your memory as something different. So perhaps a dream, perhaps an encounter you had with a person where you're like, I I had to have known them from
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somewhere else or perhaps a situation from your childhood where you felt that you were remembering something from a past life and do these guided
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meditations. get in touch with that process of of meditation. A lot of people think meditation is just, oh, let's quiet your mind and forget about
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the outside world. For for me, it's more of an electrical connection in my brain.
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I I could feel it. I feel this energy that begins to flow almost very similar to um what you would find in some ASMR
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type um auditory responses with people where a sound will bring on this triggering um electrical response and it
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it kind of just allows you to flow into that state. It's there waiting. It's just up to you if you want to take it seriously, if you want to believe it, if
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you want to further go into it. I I tell people all the time, go see what's there for you. It it's not of it's not a bad
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situation, but also don't get lost in the past. Don't stay there. It's not meant for us to be there all the time.
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You can go take a quick glimpse, learn what you need to learn, but kind of get out of there. Because I find if we stay in the past too long, our past lives come to claim us as a victim once again.
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And you have to be very present to how it relates to your current everyday life. Yeah. There it's it's very interesting.
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Uh I remember reading uh one of Jane uh Robert's books where she's channeling Seth and she described
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something where one of the practitioners uh recalled a past life as a southern
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soldier and and he who was fighting on the part of the south. he was a, you know, pretty rough sort of guy and that
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in this life he was like a much more sophisticated New Yorker type and that and that uh in in Jane Roberts kind of
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like telling of the story uh there was a communication uh between that past life memory or that
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past life that it was that it wasn't like something that happened in the in the past and done and forgotten but it was like it was happening like there's
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something about recalling past lives where in the Jane Roberts material it was like there's a communication be be a
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communication between this person living in New York and this past life of him
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living in the south and fighting on behalf of the Confederacy to preserve that their way of life and that you know
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there was very different perceptions and that what Jane Roberts said that the takeaway from that was that the person
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in New said that, you know, he learned something about himself by communicating with his past self in the south and and
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and vice versa. So, yeah. Is that something that's possible from in your view? I I I definitely share that
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viewpoint 100% because I I also look at it as like you know me 20 years ago in my early 20s if I knew now what I knew
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you know if I knew then what I knew now we'd be looking at a completely different situation and my life would probably be a little bit different maybe more you know whatever one way or the
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other but it's the same way looking back into your past lives it's it's kind of you have this knowledge it's kind of kept under wraps if you're willing to
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unwrap that present and take a look and see what it is there for you. The past lives that are shown to you in this current lifetime are shown to you for a
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reason. It's not random. It will always be connected to this lifetime. It will be connected to what's going on in your life at at this moment. And just to give
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you a good um understanding of that this lifetime um in the third book that I talk about with Sarah with the watchers
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um in in presumerian times the session that I had with the practitioner that we
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uh learned about this lifetime was very much related to this because I had just had a baby
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and I had some complications after the birth of my child. I had to have a C-section. And um when I returned home
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with my newborn and I had three other children I needed to take care of, I ended up reopening my C-section wound as
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a result of just doing too much. Um the practitioner came over to my home and did a home session where um I was
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regressed back to this lifetime. I couldn't I was having a lot of trouble healing from this C-section and just from the birth of the child. And it was
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a very overwhelming time for me when I had this session and I began to understand the lifetime of Sariah and what Sariah had gone through and what
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she had overcome. It all made a lot of sense to me. And when I was able to comprehend that and bring it into my current life, it truly helped me begin
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to move forward. I began to heal very quickly as a result from the C-section afterwards. And I was able to just kind of get my life back together to take
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care of four human beings. So, it's uh it's always connected. There's always something for you to learn from it. And it's often meant to guide you through hard times that you're going through.
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Well, one other thing that I kind of got from the Jane Roberts material was uh
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that one can also connect with their future life.
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Yes. And you can communicate with your future life or future self uh or in in
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this life like like uh connect I can connect with who I am in say 20 years or or you in 20 years or anyone watching
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this that you can communicate with who you will be in 10 years 20 years or whatever and and kind of learn from that
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connection that it's not just past lives or going into the past and reliving that but you can also communicate with the
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future that that that was one of the other lessons from the Jane Roberts material that I thought was very intriguing. So, so what do you think about that?
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I personally have not gone to explore what I understood as future lifetimes or I haven't been shown them yet uh as a
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result of possibly just not needing to see them yet. Maybe there are things that I have to do in this lifetime that don't want uh that shouldn't be
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influenced by it. But it is entirely possible for people to go ahead and do that. I also noticed in my sessions that
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time as we understand it is not chronological. I may be looking at a lifetime from you know
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1500 AD and I may be looking at a lifetime from you know 1972.
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It doesn't mean that the one that happened in 1972 happened second and that the other one happened first. Time
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is like a massive spiderweb that we are all a part of. And we go to these lifetimes and these different places
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within time and space to learn these lessons and to work with whatever it is from our past incarnation to further
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evolve our souls and to further evolve us as beings.
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It doesn't need to be past lives or present lives or it could even be I I've begun to understand the concept of also
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parallel lives that happen at the same time concurrently as your your lifetime right now where you yourself could be in
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this specific body. But there may be six other versions of me internally of my spirit or my soul within other beings
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living simultaneous lives all around the world at the same time. And all of this could very well be connected. everything that I'm learning maybe bettering myself
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and bettering them at the same time as part of this, you know, massive web that we're all a part of. So I I like to look
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at everything as we are all very much connected even though we would very much like not to be in so many ways. So
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So where do people go, Jen, if they want to um learn more about you and and get your books? So I'll just put your
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website up here. So maybe talk a little bit about your website.
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Thank you. I appreciate that. Um my website is jlfsullivan.com.
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I um put up on my website I have all of my books that I I um offer. I have the first three uh child of the universe,
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The Gift of the Stars, and also now The Daughters of Man, which I recently published. We also have um audio books
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available through Amazon. And then thankfully, I've been so blessed to have excellent translators. Um, I've had the
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books translated into Spanish, the first two, and the third one is going to be coming out probably in the next couple of months. And most recently for
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Japanese speakers, we have um, Uchon no, which has just been published recently with the help of a very great translator
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I have here on Oahu. So, [music] uh, we have a little bit of something for everybody if they're interested. Um,
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I also have on there, what else? I have a little bit of like links to my social media and ways to contact [music] me if
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you want to if you want to talk to me a little bit more about what you understand from past lives. Some people will contact me because they read my books and they say, "Listen, [music] I
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was there too. I remember everything that you're talking about and it's unbelievable that we're relating on this level." And those are always amazing emails to get from people when you see that that simultaneous remembrance.
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[music] It just kind of reaffirms in your mind that, you know, this doesn't need to be something that we question all the time. [music] Maybe this is
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something that's bigger than most of us and we need to just trust the process and look further into it [music] and see what it really is for us rather than
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just labeling it as part of some, you know, new age, [music] you know, hocus pocus.
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Well, the book is a very easy read and I enjoyed it very much. which I hope others watching this uh have a have a
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looked at uh Jen's Child of the Universe series, especially the the the latest book, The Daughters of U Man. I I have a copy here that was sent to me.
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Thank you so much for that, Jen. And uh I wish you all the best and I know you plan to do more books in the future. So uh I wish you well in your endeavors.
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Thank you very much. Yes, definitely. I think we might try and switch a genre up a little bit for a little while, but uh definitely there's plenty more lifetimes to talk about.
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Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.
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