Dimensions, Densities, Abduction, etc.
Before we get into presenting the Cassiopaean information about the
abduction process, there is a particular technology of 4th density
that they introduced in 1994 as a result of our questions about the
creation of mankind that I would like to bring forward.
following excerpts, extracted from numerous sessions and merely
arranged in chronological order, are self-explanatory.
Q: (L) You said something the other
night about the expansion of a star being conducive to creation.
Could you give us a little bit on that aspect?
A: Transdimensional atomic remolecularization.
Q: (L) What is remolecularization.
A: Being reassembled.
Q: (L) Reassembled from what to what?
A: Mode of 4th density assembly into 3rd density. It is a form
of "density collision."
Q: (L) Does this mean that this was a point in space time when
pure energy could form around a framework of a thought pattern
and thus become solid matter?
Q: (L) Is this transitioning of energy from higher densities
into third density or solid matter kind of a traumatic event for
Q: (L) Is it a form of death?
A: Death and birth are the same.
Q: (L) Was it a requirement to be on a planet with a dying star
for this remolecularization to take place?
A: If 3rd density remolecularization is the objective, yes.
Q: (L) Is energy moving down when it comes into 3rd level?
A: No. It is upward movement of Molecules, atomic matter. Light
is first density and unifies all densities.
Q: (L) Does that mean that by us moving from 3rd density into
4th density that we are getting farther away from unification
with the source?
A: No. Light and darkness unify all densities.
Q: (L) Does light become electricity via a change in density?
Q: (L) Is it from 1st to 3rd when it becomes electricity?
Q: (D) Is Transdimensional atomic remolecularization the same as
Q: (D) Okay, is this the way we will transfer from 3rd to 4th
A: It is technology for this purpose.
Q: (L) What procedure or technology do
the Grays use to pass
through solid matter?
A: Transdimensional atomic rearrangement.
Q: (L) How do aliens transport themselves or others on beams of
A: By electron focusing and previous answer.
Q: (L) Who or what are the individuals called "Men in Black"?
A: Lizard projections.
Q: (T) Does that mean that they are just projecting an image of
Q: (T) The MIBS are not real, then, in our physical terms?
A: Partly correct. You do not understand technology but we will
describe it if you like.
Q: (L) We like. Please describe this.
A: First we must explain further
time "travel" which is
Transdimensional transfer utilizing electromagnetic adjustment
of atomic structure to alter speed of time cycle convergence.
because the two concepts are closely related. The first step is
to artificially induce an electromagnetic field. This opens the
door between dimensions of reality. Next, thoughts must be
channeled by participant in order to access reality bonding
channel. They must then focus the energy to the proper
dimensional bridge. The electrons must be arranged in correct
frequency wave. Then the triage must be sent through realm
"curtain" in order to balance perceptions at all density levels.
Q: (L) What is the interpretation of triage as you have used it?
A: Triage is as follows: 1. Matter, 2. Energy, 3. Perception of
Q: (L) Why do you refer to a technological device that
supposedly transports someone from one density to another, as a
'Trans- Dimensional Remolecularizer?'
A: In order to reconstruct 3rd density into 4th density
physical, other dimensions must be utilized in the process.
Remember, we are talking about exact duplicates which are
Q: (T) It is like a program loading onto a computer. Some
programs just load straight in. Others need to create a space on
the harddrive to put files that they need to LOAD the program,
but are not PART of the program, and when it is finished
loading, it erases all the "loading instructions." The hard
drive is still the hard drive, but for a time, the program used
a sector of the hard drive, and created a temporary dimension,
let's say. Is this what we are looking at here?
(L) And, can infinite numbers of "dimensions" exist within
each level of density, even if temporary?
Q: (L) So, it is like one hard drive, many programs, loading
instructions for new programs that are then erased, etc. If
there is one "true dimension," and infinite universes within it,
does one particular universe exist, of and by itself, at any
given time, until it is merged into a new one, or is there
within this one true dimension, multiple universes as real as
ours is, to which we could go, and could be there alongside
ours, so to speak?
A: Yes to the latter.
Q: (L) And, can infinite numbers of "dimensions" exist within
each level of density, even if temporary?
A: Yes. If you want to go back and change "history," either for
individuals or for universal perception, you must first create
an alternate universe to do it. Your 4th density STS "friends"
have been doing this a lot.
Q: (L) If you, being a general term, create an alternate
universe, does the former one continue to exist, or does the
former one merge into the new one?
Q: (L) Is deja vu a result of some sensation of the universe
A: Or... some sensation of reality bridging.
Q: (L) What is reality bridging?
A: What does it sound like?
Q: (T) A bridge is something you put between two things...
A: You wish to limit, wait till 4th density, when the word will
Q: (L) That still doesn't help me to understand deja vu as a
"sensation of reality bridging." Is deja vu because something
comes into our reality from another?
A: One possibility...
Q: (T) It's a bleed-through from other dimensions... that when we
think we have been someplace before, it is because in another
dimension we have...
Q: (L) If you are now in a particular universe that has been
created and merged by 4th density STS, and there is still the
old universe existing, can you feel a connection, or a bridging,
because some alternate self is in that alternate universe,
living through some experience... or a similar thing?
A: No limits of possibilities.
Q: (L) So it can be any and all of those things, and bridging
realities of "past" and "future," as well. Is it possible to
change the past within a particular, selected one of the
universes; can you go back in time, within that universe, change
the past, and have it change everything forward, still within
that selected universe, like a domino effect?
A: In such a case, yes.
Q: (L) But, you said that if you want to change the past, you
have to create an alternate universe...
(T) No, you asked about
changing the past, and they said you have to create a temporary
place to work from, a position from which you can manipulate the
A: That is for specialized activities such as abductions.
Q: (L) So that creating of an alternate universe was for special
things, and not for a general historic change?
A: What was described is not the same as an "alternate
Q: (L) It is like a temporary file that will go away when you
are finished loading the program. And that is not creating an
alternate universe, but rather a temporary dimension...
Q: (L) In our particular universe, what is the primary mode? Are
we constantly shifting and merging universe to universe, or is
our past being changed and reacting like the domino effect... at
least in the past few years... Is it that any and all
possibilities and will and do take place?
Q: (L) Can you clarify that any further for me?
A: No, because you would simply not grasp it.
Q: (T) It is part of the infrastructure of the universe which we
are in no way capable of understanding at this point. We can't
even get quarks right.
Q: (L) Are the words "universe" and "dimension" synonymous?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) In what sense yes?
A: For you, these are "grey" areas, and no matter how hard you
try, until your perception shifts fundamentally, you ain't gonna
Keeping all of this in mind, let us now
turn our attention to the Cassiopaean description of the abduction
process. The question and answer format will be adhered to for the
sake of clarity.
Q: (L) A couple of nights ago I did
a hypnosis session with J___ to examine the events that took
place on August 16, 1993, over my pool, wherein two 300 ft wide
black boomerangs were seen by all of us, kind of casually
drifting by. In this hypnosis session, after two or three passes
through the events, he indicated that, in fact, that was not
merely a sighting of something going overhead, but was actually
an abduction situation. One remark he made during this session,
and this startled me a little, and I would like to get a little
amplification on the subject, was that toward the end when I
asked what happened, he said that he was "taken apart and beamed
back down without benefit of a pain suppressor." This meant that
when he was demolecularized some sort of device that is used to
suppress pain was not used, and the process of atomic
demolecularization or remolecularization can actually be
painful, and can cause distress. Is this correct?
A: Possibly. The whole process of abduction can be stressful,
but, to varying degrees and, of course, we must remind you that,
as with everything else, it is your own perception of reality
that is the most important factor, not some notion of your own
perception of reality.
Q: (L) I don't understand what you mean. Is there some device
that... does it hurt to be taken to pieces molecularly, beamed
aboard a space ship and then sent back.
(J) Can this be painful
to the body?
A: Well, first of all, you are getting way ahead of yourself. Do
you honestly believe that a beam of light came down and "took
you to pieces," moved your body physically onboard a space
vehicle, did some form of examination or some such thing and
then reassembled your entire body without a pain suppressor? Is
this what you believe?
Q: (L) Well, he didn't say it happened to me, he said it
happened to him.
(J) We have never heard the term "Pain
(L) Yes, we have never heard anything about
anything like this; and do I believe a beam of light could have
come down and disassembled him and reassembled him, and then
something was done to him. From all the abduction cases I have
studied I would say it is possible. I mean, knowing about the
time manipulation capabilities of said entities, it is entirely
possible that it could have happened without any awareness of
any loss of time whatsoever.
A: Yes, this is true, however, your description of it is not
completely correct as referenced in the hypnosis session you
speak of, or at least your interpretation of the information
given during the hypnosis session given is not correct. Now, it
must be noted here, that when we make such clarifying statements
such as "this is not correct" or "that is not correct," it is
unusual for us to do this because the nature of your state of
being and all others is one involving various degrees of bonded
Therefore any and all possibilities are present in
most instances. However, when two or more of these bonds of the
illusion are misaligned, then, indeed, absolute correctness or
absolute incorrectness is possible. In this case, there is a
misalignment of the bonding. Therefore, it is, in fact,
completely incorrect. We will now describe the process in more
detail... This knowledge is very important not only for what,
perhaps, has happened in your reality as you would refer to it
as your past, but also in possible variations of your present
and in what you refer to as your future. These experiences must
be known in their entirety as to what they really are.
You are not normally removed as a physical third density being
from one locator to another. What happens is very simple. The
time frame is normally frozen, and we use the term "frozen" for
lack of a better term. What this means is that your perception
of time in your physical locator, third density body, ceases to
pass during this period of time that is called "zero time"
variously by members of your human race.
What happens is that
the soul imprint occupying of that particular host body is
removed forcibly, transported to another locator, and remolecularized as a separate physical entity body for purpose
of examination, implantation, and other. The soul imprint is
used for the purpose of duplication process; it is then
demolecularized and the soul imprint is replaced in the original
body at the original locator. That is the process that takes
On occasion, the fourth density beings doing the abduction can
actually make a mistake in the time referencing points of the
third density illusion. This may create the effect of the
appearance of an alternate or duplicate experience, when, in
actuality there has only been one experience. This was what
happened in your case. As you perceived the passage of two
"ships" for lack of a better term, when in actuality, there was
only one. That is because the time frame reference illusion was
not completely matched from beginning of event to the end of the
event in zero time. Normally, however, that is not a problem.
rare occasions, the host, or the subject of the abduction can
actually find themselves replaced in the time frame illusion in
what could appear to be several hours, day, weeks, or even,
sadly, years prior to the beginning of the event, which, of
course, could cause side effects such as total insanity and
other such things. Fortunately that did not occur in your case,
but there was some fracturing of the time frame reference
illusion. This is why you thought you saw two ships when in
actuality you only saw one.
Now, it is most important that you understand that this is not a
physical, third density experience in its entirety. There is the
soul imprint that all first density, second density, third
density, and fourth density beings possess, as you already know;
that is extracted. From that soul imprint a duplicate copy or
clone, if you will, which appears on fourth density, can then be
made and studied and the soul imprint is then replaced into the
original body at whatever density it was taken. This is normally
how the process is done.
Most often, if the third density being is removed in total
physicality, there is no return of that being to third density.
They are permanently removed to fourth density. Most often that
is what takes place although on rare occasions there can be
return. However, there is no need for this as complete
duplication for all purposes of examination, alteration of
sensate, and implanting; need not be done on third density; can
be done completely in the fourth density duplication process. Do
Q: (T) How does the implant come back to the third density body
that's originally still here?
A: The process we are describing, which involves the
remolecularization; it is very complex to try and describe how
the fourth density is translated into third density, except that
once the duplicate, the fourth density clone, is present, all
fourth density realities surrounding that fourth density
duplicate will be matched in third density whenever and wherever
desired. Because, in effect it is the entire density level which
is being exchanged, not just the object contained within.
Q: (L) So, in other words, just as the soul imprint, when it
goes into fourth density, can be used as a template to create a
carbon copy, so to speak, then anything that is done to the
carbon copy then becomes a template that recreates that same
manifestation when it is sent back into the third density?
A: Precisely. With the only variance there being that technology
is used to make sure that implants, or added material that comes
from fourth density, is such that it will also translate equally
into third density through the remolecularization process.
Q: (L) Is there any method that we could or should know about to
remove or deactivate implants.
A: No, you are not capable of doing that without causing death
of the host. And, by the way, please don't believe those who
claim that they can do such things as they cannot. Any implants
that are claimed to have been removed are those which have been
placed by 3rd density beings for purposes of disinformation and
Q: (L) So, in this particular case, something was done,
something occurred here, which affected me. My subsequent
physical condition makes me curious as to whether the physical
reactions I had for six to nine months, and still have
occasionally, following this event, were a third density
reaction to the, what you call, fracturing of time. Was this an
aberration or was this intentional?
A: It does not occur as a result of the "fracturing" of the time
frame reference illusion. It occurs as a result, simply and
merely, of your psychic impression imprint of the experience
itself reflecting back into your third density physical reality.
Q: (T) Is the pain that J___ described not what he said it was,
but rather the pain that is related when the fourth density
being removes the life force?
A: Life force is never removed. The soul is extracted. In answer
to your question: J___ is merely expressing the discomfort and
distress that most third and second density beings experience
when abducted by fourth density
Service To Self entities.
Q: (L) Now, what we would like to know is, if our souls are
abducted from our bodies and then used as a pattern for
remolecularization in fourth density, is there ever, at any
time, a remolecularized clone that is retained in fourth density
even after the soul has been returned to its original body?
A: No, it's not possible.
Q: (L) So, they don't keep a pattern or clone of any of us after
they have abducted us, "they" being a general term?
Q: (L) Do any of the STS beings have the ability to cause us
physical problems, or mental or emotional problems when not in
direct contact with us?
Q: (L) How is this done?
A: A number of different methods used.
Q: (L) So any and all methods may be used at any given time?
A: That is correct.
Q: (L) Could you give us one or two examples of how this is
A: There are many: sound wave manipulation of the ultra high
frequency range would be one.
Q: (L) What do these sound waves in the ultra high frequencies
A: They can alter chemical balances within the body of the
subject, thereby also the brain, using the physical path to
cause distress by altering these chemical imbalances into place.
Q: (L) Do these ultra-high frequency sound waves ever carry
messages in terms of pre-coded suggestions that are triggered by
A: Messages are not carried in ultra-high frequency sound waves.
Now, you are talking about an entirely different method.
Q: (L) Alright then, moving on to another subject, how are
pre-coded information signals sent? Can messages be sent via
A: No, sound wave focusing is designed to alter body and brain
chemistry in order to alter such things as feelings, emotions,
and so forth, which then may lead to the altering of mental
thought patterns. But messages are not sent by ultra-high
frequency sound waves.
Q: (L) How are they sent?
A: Messages are sent by something called Free Formal Imaging
which means that a thought is formed in one realm and sent to a
second realm, which is yours.
Q: (L) Okay. Can it be sent to a directed target?
Q: (L) Now, the question has arisen that, since other
dimensional beings have the ability to kidnap or abduct or
forcibly extract souls, do they also have the capability of
manipulating our soul essences after they have left our bodies
during the transition to fifth density?
A: Not correct.
Q: (L) They do not?
A: No, you see when your physical body expires, and you enter
fifth density, this is done one way and one way only: by passing
through a conduit which opens specifically for the purpose of
transference from third density to fifth density. Now, something
often referred to in your terminology as a silver thread, is like
a closed line which opens when this conduit is needed. That's
rather awkward, but it's the only way to describe it. So that
when the physical body terminates, this line is opened forming a
conduit through which the soul passes naturally. However, part
of the existence of this conduit is that it is absolutely
impenetrable by any force from any density level.
souls in the process of transferring from third density to fifth
density are not in any way able to be molested or tampered with.
And it should be mentioned here, also, that the soul imprint of
the physical body always has a connection to fifth density and
that is through the so-called "silver thread." That always
exists as the third density soul's doorway to fifth density. It
can be opened at a moment's notice whenever needed. When it is
opened it becomes a conduit. Through that conduit the soul
passes. And it is not subject to interference by anything.
is not a deliberate construction, it is merely the natural
process similar to what could be described as the protection
mechanisms existing on second level density for creatures which
are not capable of protecting themselves through their own
conscious thought processes. For example, your turtle is
contained within a shell that protects it. That shell is
impenetrable by any natural forces, therefore nothing that is
natural can harm that turtle. However, the same can exist for
any creature when it is connected by the silver thread to fifth
density. Once it is passing through the conduit produced by the
opening of the silver thread, then, of course, it cannot be
tampered with. Do you understand?
Q: (L) Yes, but why do so many souls, when they leave the body,
not traverse this conduit, and why do they stay earthbound, and
why do they attach to other bodies? Why does this condition
A: That is a complicated question, however the best answer is
choice is involved there for those souls who wish not to leave
the plane of third density. The only possibility to do this is
to be detached from the now expired physical body but still be
within the third density plane, which, of course, is not
natural, but nonetheless can occur. In situations such as this,
though it has been incorrectly reported, the silver thread is
still attached and still remains a thread rather than a
The soul is still attached to the silver thread but detached
from the host body which has now expired. So the effect is very
similar to being consciously aware of third density surroundings
without a third density unit to accompany. Also, please be aware
of the fact that once the soul leaves the confines of the
physical body, the illusion of time passage is no longer
apparent even when the soul remains on the third density plane.
Therefore, it appears to that soul that no time whatsoever has
passed. And, we mention this merely for you to contemplate all
of the various meanings behind this.
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Dimensions, Densities, Abduction, etc
Q: (L) What or who, precisely, are
the Gray aliens?
A: Cybergenetic probes and decoys created by
Q: What is being done in the "gazing process" that so many
abductees report from their interactions with the Grays?
A: Study brain. Reflective remolecularization imaging via energy
Q: (L) What is behind their eyes?
A: Camera like system.
Q: (L) Is that system also able to send signals?
A: Yes. This induces thought paralysis.
Q: (L) Do they implant thoughts with their eyes also?
Q: (L) What do they do with implants?
A: Monitor and control your total sensorium.
Q: (L) I have drawn a sort of conclusion about some of the
activities of the Lizzies and their abductions through the Grays
and so forth, and it seems to me that these excessive numbers of
exams, gynecological, reproductive or whatever, might possibly
be a screen for a process that is used to extract life force or
energy from the human being, through the basal chakra, the
sexual chakra, which is where, as I understand it, the life
force enters in. Is this idea correct or on track?
Q: (L) It does seem that the Grays and Lizzies are abnormally
interested in sexual activities of human beings, is that
Q: (L) Do they have tremendous sex drives even though they are
in fourth density?
Q: (L) Are they interested in sexual energy simply because it is
A: Partly and they are also desperately working to stave off
change in order to retain control.
Q: (L) What changes are they desperate to stave off?
A: The transition to 4th level.
Q: (L) They are trying to stave off the 4th level change. Can
they do that?
A: No. But they are also hoping to retain control even if change
Q: (L) By what means do they do this through these gynecological
exams? Is there some technical activity they undertake?
A: Yes. [This will be examined further on]
Q: (T) Okay, in this
Krll document there was a statement made
that the Grays and other aliens use glandular substances
extracted during physical exams of human beings, what they would
call the gynecological and the sperm extraction exams, that they
used these glandular substances to get high or to feed on, that
they are addicted to these, is this a correct assessment?
A: No. They use it as a Medicine which helps them cope with 3rd
density; it helps them to manifest in a more solid physical
manner during their visits to your realm.
Q: Do they also use sexual energy given off by individuals to
maintain their status in three dimensions?
A: No. That feeds them in 4th density. Most orgasmic energy
drains to 4th density.
Q: (L) So, these supposed memories people have from their
abductions of these exams just screens of procedures used to
take life force from them?
Q: (L) When they sample an abductee's tissue and take the little
scoops or chunks out of them, what do they take these chunks of
Q: (L) If they clone, why do they need such a large chunks?
A: You don't know all details of cloning process yet.
Q: (L) Do they take twins, or one of a pair of twins, and raise
A: Have done so.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of taking one of a pair of twins?
A: Study to determine which is best soul receptacle: one of
twins or clone.
[This raises the question as to why the
choice has to be either. Is there some connection between clones and
the original body and one twin and another that is vital to the
purpose of the Lizzies?]
Q: (L) For what purpose are they
trying to decide which is the best receptacle, the clone or the
twin? Receptacle for what?
A: Future project to switch physical realities.
Q: (L) They are going to enter into the bodies themselves so
that they can switch their reality?
Q: (L) So, they are preparing a bunch of soulless bodies into
which they can enter in themselves?
A: Will try.
Q: (L) And could you tell us
what the Reptoids look like?
A: Upright alligators with some humanoid features in face.
Q: (L) Do they have tails?
Q: (L) How tall are they?
A: Six to eight feet tall.
Q: (L) Do they wear clothing?
Q: (L) I know this is a silly question, but does their clothing
have an opening for the tail?
Q: (L) Do they defecate?
A: No. They are 4th level.
Q: (L) So, when you are 4th level you neither eat nor defecate
in the third density way?
Q: (L) Do the Lizzies have the ability to change their shape or
Q: (L) The comment was made at one point that certain alien
beings abduct humans and subject them to cruel and torturous
deaths in order to create "maximum energy transfer." In this
respect, what is this maximum energy transfer that occurs during
a long, slow, torturous dying process?
A: Extreme fear and anxiety builds up fear/anxiety energy which
is of a negative nature which fuels the beings that you speak of
in that they draw from that and produce a sort of a fueling
energy which keeps them going as one of their forms of
nourishment based on their metabolic structure.
Q: (L) What is their metabolic structure?
A: That is very complex and very difficult to describe because
it is on the fourth level of density which you do not
understand. But, part of their reason for existence on the
fourth level is their ability to nourish themselves both through
ethereal methods and through physical methods. Therefore, this
energy transfer of pain and suffering would represent the
ethereal method of nourishment and other means are achieved
Q: (L) What other means?
A: Well, the drinking of blood and blood by-products would be an
example of that.
Q: (L) Do they do that?
A: Yes, but the manner of intake is different than what you may
be thinking. It is done through pores.
Q: (L) In what manner?
A: Bathing and then absorbing the necessary products and then
disposing of the remaining product.
Q: (L) What beings, in specific, do this?
A: Both those that you describe as the Lizard Beings and those
you describe as the Grays. This is necessary for their survival
in each case. Even though the Grays are not natural parts of the
short wave cycle, but rather an artificial creation by the
Lizard Beings, but nevertheless they mimic the nourishment
Q: (L) Since they are artificially created by the Lizard beings,
does this mean they have no souls?
A: That's correct.
Q: (L) How do they function? Are they like robots?
A: They function by interaction with the souls of the Lizard
beings. This technology is extremely far in advance of that with
which you are familiar, but the Gray beings are not only built
and designed artificially, but also function as a projection
mentally and psychically of the Lizard beings. They are like
four dimensional probes.
Q: (L) As four dimensional probes, what are their capabilities?
A: They have all the same capabilities of the Lizard beings
except for the fact that their physical appearance is entirely
different and they do not have souls of their own and also their
biological structure is internally different. But, their
functioning is the same and in order to remain as projection
beings they also must absorb nutrients in the same fashion both
spiritually and physically as the Lizard beings do. The reason
the negative energy is necessary fuel is that the Lizard beings
and the Grays are both living in the fourth level of density,
which is the highest level of density one can exist in serving
only self as these entities do.
So, therefore, they must absorb
negative energy because the fourth level of density is the
highest example of self service which is a negative thought
pattern. The fourth level of density is a progression from the
third level of density. With each progression upward in density
level, the existence for the individual conscious entity becomes
less difficult. So, therefore, the fourth level of density is
less difficult to exist in that the third, the third is less
difficult than the second and so on. It puts less strain on the
soul energy. Therefore, beings existing on the fourth level of
density can draw from beings existing on the third level of
density in terms of absorption of negative soul energy.
Likewise, beings on the third level of density can draw from
beings on the second level of density, though this type of
drawing is not as necessary but is done. This is why human
beings existing on the third level frequently cause pain and
suffering to those of the animal kingdom who exist on the second
level of density because you are drawing negative soul energy as
beings who primarily serve self, as you do, from those on the
second level, and on the first, and so on. Now, as you advance
to the fourth level of density which is coming up for you, you
must now make a choice as to whether to progress to service to
others or to remain at the level of service to self. This will
be the decision which will take quite some time for you to
This is what is referred to as the "thousand year
period." This is the period as measured in your calendar terms
that will determine whether or not you will advance to service
to others or remain at the level of service to self. And those
who are described as the Lizards have chosen to firmly lock
themselves into service to self. And, since they are at the
highest level of density where this is possible, they must
continually draw large amounts of negative energy from those at
the third level, second level, and so on, which is why they do
what they do.
This also explains why their race is dying,
because they have not been able to learn for themselves how to
remove themselves from this particular form of expression to
that of service to others. And, since they have such, as you
would measure it, a long period of time, remained at this level
and, in fact, become firmly entrenched in it, and, in fact, have
increased themselves in it, this is why they are dying and
desperately trying to take as much energy from you as possible
and also to recreate their race metabolically.
Q: (L) Well, if we are sources of food and labor for them, why
don't they just breed us in pens on their own planet?
A: They do.
Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, a veritable
smorgasbord, why don't they just move in and take over?
A: That is their intention. That has been their intention for
quite some time. They have been traveling back and forth through
time as you know it, to set things up so that they can absorb a
maximum amount of negative energy with the transference from
third level to fourth level that this planet is going to
experience, in the hopes that they can overtake you on the
fourth level and thereby accomplish several things.
1: retaining their race as a
2: increasing their numbers
increasing their power
4: expanding their race throughout the realm of fourth density
To do all of this they have been interfering with events for
what you would measure on your calendar as approximately 74
thousand years. And they have been doing so in a completely
still state of space time traveling backward and forward at will
during this work. Interestingly enough, though, all of this will
Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?
A: Because we see it. We are able to see all, not just what we
want to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want
to see. In other words, it's the highest manifestation possible
of that which you would refer to as wishful thinking. And,
wishful thinking represented on the fourth level of density
becomes reality for that level. You know how you wishfully
think? Well, it isn't quite reality for you because you are on
the third level, but if you are on the fourth level and you were
to perform the same function, it would indeed be your awareness
of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see since we
serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth
level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we
would want it to be.
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Q: (L) Is the amnesia related to UFO
abductions deliberately induced or is it a product of the mind's
inability to deal with the event?
A: It is an equal commingling of both.
Q: (L) The part that is deliberately induced, how is that
A: By using a cosmic energy flow to influence memory function
through a combination of spiritual and chemical interaction.
Q: (L) Can you be more specific?
A: Being more specific would be in another way less specific,
but a good way to put it is altering the flow of electromagnetic
energy in the brain. Electromagnetic energy, electromagnetism,
is the life force that exists within all that evolves through
long wave or short wave cycles.
Q: (L) Now, I have some articles in this magazine here: This is
a gal who has "channeled for thousands around the globe since
1985. Her books and magazine articles are published in six
languages worldwide. Etc., etc.," Her "source" says here: "The
human consciousness is roughly divided into three different
areas for the sake of this illustration: the conscious mind, the
subconscious mind and the unconscious mind." Now, are these
labels generally correct?
Q: (L) The material says further: "The unconscious mind is a
link to your greater self, it is also used as a wasteland where
scary, dark things are stored that you really don't want to
bring up." Is this a fairly accurate statement?
Q: (L) Is there anything you can say to make the statement more
A: The unconscious mind is also a conduit for connecting with
the higher self, other selves, and the universal mind.
Q: (L) She goes on to say: "When you are a child and have a
traumatic event, the subconscious not only finds a way to
immediately process the information and store it, but also to
protect you from further fragmentation. It must seek to create a
balance." So, she says, the "very intense raw energy that is
generated from trauma gets stuffed into the unconscious mind."
Is this true?
A: Close enough.
Q: (L) She then goes on to say: "When an extraterrestrial looks
at us, we seem like multiple personality cases to them because
of our mind divisions." Is this true?
Q: (L) Why is that irrelevant? Is it because when a higher
density being looks at us they know what they are looking at?
A: Yes. They know and understand the separations of your mind
quite precisely. That would be like saying "when a human looks
at a rodent, they notice that they are excessively furry." And
also because, in most cases, these "separations" and "multiple
personality" aspects are deliberately generated by 4th density
Q: (L) She goes on to say: "The ET often does not know how to
communicate with a fragmented human. Sometimes they fly their
ships by and few people may see them, but the greater percentage
do not see them as that data gets sucked into the subconscious
and the triage occurs." She means triage in the sense of the
mind being so flabbergasted that it immediately shunts
information into the unconscious. Is this true, that ET's are
having problems communicating with us because we are the one's
Q: (L) Is it true that some people may not see ET's or UFO's
because they block it from their own minds?
A: This can happen or the blockage may be inspired by the alien.
Q: (L) Now, she says: "For the most part, the average person in
society does not know how to interpret telepathic contact...
(this is her alien talking) in the moment you start perceiving
us reality starts shifting because, remember, you are one
frequency and we are another." Is this true?
A: It is irrelevant. This is not an obstacle, as suggested by
Q: (L) Anyway, the article goes on: "So an ET walks up to you in
your backyard and for a fragment of a moment you may perceive
us. But what commonly happens is that the human will suddenly
shut down usually by becoming very sleepy and falling into a
sleep or type of trance state such as one that is produced by
alpha or theta brain waves." Is this true? When a person sees an
ET do they just turn off from the shock? Is this why most ET
contact is not remembered?
A: It can happen but does not usually. In general the "shut
down" is deliberately imposed by the alien. We do not wish to
further critique this as this is a waste of energy.
Q: (L) The whole point of this article is to say that ET's who
abduct people are here to help us evolve and that it is only us,
if we have dark and dirty unconscious minds, who perceive them
A: Wrong. You do not need "help" for evolving, nor does anything
Q: (L) Okay. The next question: Are any of the Grays what one
might call "good guys?"
A: That is a subjective interpretation any way you look at it.
For, after all, what is good and what is bad?
Q: (L) The definition that you have given is
Service To Self and
Service To Others. So, are any of the Grays STO beings?
A: Well, again, if we can review for just a moment. It is
subjective to refer to either STS or STO as either good or bad.
It merely means Service to Self and Service to Others. Now, the
determination as to whether it is good or bad is made by the
observer. It depends on your point of view. It depends on your
objective. It depends on a lot of things. One is merely service
to self. This is inward turning. The other is Service to Others
which is outward expanding. It is part of the balance which
makes up that which we refer to as the Universe.
Q: (L) Are any of the Grays STO?
A: In very rare instances, Gray beings have crossed over into
the STO realm, but in their natural environment, they are, in
fact, STS, as they were constructed to be.
Q: (L) How does it occur that they cross over into the STO
A: Simply by natural circumstance, in the same general way that
it occurs that human beings in the 3rd density STS environment
can, under certain circumstances, rise to the STO level. Very
Q: (L) Well, if the Grays are cybergenetic probes of the Lizard
Beings, and, in effect soulless, does this mean that some of the
Lizard beings are also STO?
A: Well, first, no being that is given intelligence to think on
its own is, in fact, completely soul-less. It does have some
soul imprint. Or what could be loosely referred to as soul
imprint. This may be a collection of psychic energies that are
available in the general vicinity. And this is stretching
somewhat so that you can understand the basic ideas, even though
in reality it is all far more complex than that. But, in any
case, there is really no such thing as being completely
soul-less, whether it be a natural intelligence or an
artificially constructed intelligence. And, one of the very most
interesting things about that from your perspective, is that
your technology on 3rd density, which we might add, has been
aided somewhat by interactions with those that you might refer
to as "aliens," is now reaching a level whereby the artificially
created intelligences can, in fact, begin to develop, or attract
some soul imprint energy. If you follow what we are saying. For
example: your computers, which are now on the verge of reaching
the level whereby they can think by themselves, will begin to
develop faint soul imprint.
Q: (L) That's not a pleasant thought.
A: Now, to answer your question: Are the Reptilian beings, or
Lizard beings, STO. Of course, some can cross over into STO.
However, their natural environment is STS as they have chosen.
But, whether or not any of the cybergenetic Gray beings cross
over into STO, and or the Lizard Beings cross over into STO,
these are not connected to one another, these two concepts. They
Q: (L) I understand. Okay, would you say there is any
percentage, any fairly measurable percentage of Lizard beings
that are STO?
A: It is VERY, VERY small. EXTREMELY small. Hardly worth
Q: (L) What about the Grays?
A: That might be slightly higher, but again, it is very small,
Q: (L) Is there another race of beings that are manipulating or
using the Lizard beings?
A: Could you elaborate?
Q: (L) Are the Lizard Beings agents for some other group?
A: Well that is a rather simple question. But, there are levels
of authority in 4th density STS environment. And these are
determined by intellectual and physical prowess, as always, in
STS. The "pecking order" as you call it. So, therefore, we could
state that at the bottom are those you are familiar with as the
Gray beings, and in the middle are those you would call the
Lizard Beings, and above there are others that you are not so
familiar with, the most commonly known, of course, are the Orion
Q: (L) What do they look like?
A: They are, in fact, humanoid in structure, resembling large
Q: (L) And we don't see them that often?
A: Well, of course you know by now, that the ones most
frequently seen on 3rd density level, are the Gray beings. All
others equally less frequently seen.
Q: (L) Do these Orion STS ever participate in abductions?
A: The abductions are primarily performed by the Gray beings.
However, others can and will and in fact have abducted. But when
this occurs, the nature of the abduction is different.
Q: (L) Are there any positive Extra-terrestrials from the area
of Sirius interacting with human beings at the present time?
A: Well, now! First off, it is important for you to know that
the term you use: Extra Terrestrial, which of course, is one of
the most correct terms used at your level - all that is NOT of
the Earth is Extra-Terrestrial - and, for those on your surface
earth environment to refer to themselves as alone in the
universe, or the one and only in the cosmos, is akin to a
microbe on a grain of sand referring to itself as the only form
of life on the beach! Now, when you ask are there any beings in
the vicinity of Sirius, it would be something like that same
microbe, located on the grain of sand, on the beach, which is,
of course, but one of the beaches located on the surface of the
earth, after all, asking if there is, in fact, any life located
over in the vicinity of that seashell...
Q: (L) But I asked if there were any interacting with Earth...
A: And we are answering that question. We have chosen to take
this opportunity to put things into better focus for you. Now,
to answer your question: Are there any beings who reside in the
vicinity of Sirius who are positively oriented, or STO as it
were? Again it is difficult to answer that because we do not
know how to define the "vicinity of Sirius." But, if you mean
within a light year or so of Sirius, as you measure distance,
then we can say there are no such beings in that area in 3rd
density. But that leaves open 4th through 6th density. So, you
see, as you already know, but we wish to reinforce this, there
is so much to contemplate here that it is absurd when those
around you refer to certain areas or star systems and claim that
there are beings from here or there or wherever, and that their
objective is this or that or the other. Because if you knew the
TRUE nature of the universe, of All of the universe, of all
possible realms, you would also know that any and all things are
possible, and, in fact, DO exist! You must NOT forget this.
Q: (L) So, in other words, these people are right?
A: All of these people are right, and all of these people are
wrong. Because it is silly to point to some section of the sky,
to ascribe any area as being the "Home" of this that or the
other "race of extra-terrestrial beings."
Q: (L) But what if that is, in fact, the case? The Orions live
in some star system in Orion, right?
A: So are you.
Q: (L) Well, we aren't living there now!
A: That's not the point. If you were to stay in 3rd density and
view your star, which you know as the sun, from another point in
your galaxy, it would appear to be a part of the Orion system.
Would it not?
Q: (L) Probably.
A: Well, now perhaps you are beginning to understand what we are
talking about??? At one level, and in one sense.
Q: (L) Well, how do these beings get here crossing such vast
reaches of space?
A: As we have told you, there are seven levels of density which
involves, among other things, not only state of being
physically, spiritually and etherically, but also, more
importantly, state of awareness. You see, state of awareness is
the key element to all existence in creation. You have
undoubtedly remembered that we have told you that this is, after
all, a grand illusion, have you not? So, therefore, if it is a
grand illusion, what is more important, physical structure or
state of awareness???
Q: (L) State of awareness?
A: Exactly. Now, when we go from the measuring system, which of
course has been nicely formulated so that you can understand it,
of density levels one through seven, the key concept, of course,
is state of awareness. All the way through. So, once you rise to
a higher state of awareness, such things as physical limitation
evaporate. And, when they evaporate, vast distances, as you
perceive them, become non-existent. So, just because you are
unable to see and understand has absolutely no bearing
whatsoever on what is or is not possible. Except within your own
level of density. And this is what almost no one on your current
level of density is able to understand. If you can understand it
and convey it to them, you will be performing the greatest
service that your kind has ever seen. Think about that for a
moment. Let it seep into your consciousness. Analyze it. Dissect
it. Look at it carefully and then put it back together again.
Q: (L) What is it that limits our awareness?
A: Your environment. And it is the environment that you have
chosen. By your level of progress. And that is what limits
everything. As you rise to higher levels of density, limitations
Q: (L) What creates this environment of limitation?
A: It is the grand illusion which is there for the purpose of
Q: (L) And who put the illusion into place?
A: The Creator who is also the Created. Which is also you and us
and all. As we have told you, we are you and vice versa. And so
is everything else.
Q: (L) Is the key that it is all illusion?
A: Basically, yes. As we have told you before, if you will be
patient just a moment, the universe is merely a school. And, a
school is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists.
There is no other reason. Now, if only you understood the true
depth of that statement, you would begin to start to see, and
experience for yourself, all the levels of density that it is
possible to experience, all the dimensions that it is possible
to experience, all awareness. When an individual understands
that statement to its greatest possible depth, that individual
becomes illumined. And, for one moment, which lasts for all
eternity, that individual knows absolutely everything that there
is to know.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is
knowledge and not love?
A: That is correct.
Q: (L) Is it also correct that emotion can be used to mislead,
that is emotions that are twisted and generated strictly from
the flesh or false programming?
A: Emotion that limits is an impediment to progress. Emotion is
also necessary to make progress in 3rd density. It is natural.
When you begin to separate limiting emotions based on
assumptions from emotions that open one to unlimited
possibilities, that means you are preparing for the next
Q: (L) What about Love?
A: What about it?
Q: (L) There are many teachings that are promulgated that Love
is the key, the answer. They say that illumination and knowledge
and what-not can all be achieved through love.
A: The problem is not the term "love," the problem is
interpretation of the term. Those on third density have a
tendency to confuse the issue horribly. After all, they confuse
many things as love. When the actual definition of love as you
know it is not correct either. It is not necessarily a feeling
that one has that can also be interpreted as an emotion, but
rather, as we have told you before, the essence of light which
is knowledge is love, and this has been corrupted when it is
said that love leads to illumination.
Love is Light is
Knowledge. Love makes no sense when common definitions are used
as they are in your environment. To love you must know. And to
know is to have light. And to have light is to love. And to have
knowledge is to love. This you must discover. Before you become
frustrated, if, indeed you are going to begin seeing at another
density level, it must be a discovery process for the greatest
learning potential. For us to give you previews would not
necessarily be in your best interest.
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Q: (L) I read in a book about a
monster called the
Beast of Gevaudan which appeared first in
1764 and was supposedly gone away with in 1767. Who or what was
A: Other dimensional "window faller."
Q: (L) You mean it fell into our dimension from another through
a dimensional window?
Q: (L) Well, that would explain a lot of things about it. What
about the creature known as "Spring Heel Jack" who terrorized
England some time ago?
Q: (L) What about the
Mothman in West Virginia?
Q: (L) So, windows to other dimensions are the explanation for a
whole host of strange things?
Q: (L) Okay, what about
A: It is what it is.
Q: (L) It is a 'goatsucker.' Where does it come from?
A: Review: "window fallers."
Q: (L) If it is a window faller, does it come from another
density, or a lateral dimension?
A: Closer to the latter.
Q: (L) Okay, so it is like a horizontal dimension. How is it
that other dimensional or density beings enter our density?
A: This is complex, but best described as "EM wave bursts along
frequency border variation."
Q: (L) Is there some way to stop this?
A: You do not yet completely understand all the "mechanics" of
the window phenomenon. The physicality is entirely transitory
and partially dependent upon consciousness variabilities, as
well as expectations of witnesses.
Q: (L) Does the energy of the fear of the witness enable the
creature to continue its operation in 3rd density? Does it feed
on the excitement and fear, and is that what makes it manifest?
A: Close, but off a little. It is the other way around, and
retro-factored by one half.
Q: (L) What do you mean by that?
A: It is mutual, rather than unilateral. Also, remember that a
window represents a cross-energizing of realities, equally
represented from each "dimension" in question. In other words,
because the dimensional curtain has been "torn," half of one and
half of the other contributes to the whole reality.
Q: (L) Okay, what is taking place when craft that are described
to be belonging to "aliens" begin to strobe as opposed to
pulsating or merely blinking or other light related activities?
In other words, what are the different configurations of light
emanations and what do they indicate?
A: Well, you must be aware, first of all, as we have told you
before, and as you have, in fact, gained knowledge from other
sources prior to your communications with us, the entire subject
matter referred to as "UFOs" is extremely varied and
multi-faceted in nature and does not represent any one
condition, entity, source of entities, mode of transport,
density level, or anything else related to these.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we would have to specify a specific
sighting and condition in order to obtain an answer to this
particular question or type of question?
A: Well, let us ask you, would that not be the wisest course of
Q: (J) I think I have a way out of that. Possibly we are
referring to the type of sightings that are typical in the Gulf
Breeze area where they...
A: Be aware of the fact, please, that the whole Gulf Breeze
situation is rather interesting in many ways. And, when we say
"rather interesting," we are being subjective viewing the
subjective from your point of view. There is more going on there
than meets the eye... again, from your point of view. ...Strobe
lights are used for 3rd density
Q: (L) Okay. You mentioned the strobe lights. Are these strobe
lights that are used to control minds, are these something that
we would or might come in contact with on a daily basis?
A: Do you not already know? We didn't say: some strobe lights,
we said: strobe lights, i.e. all inclusive!
Q: (T) Strobe lights come in many forms and types. TV is a
strobe light. Computer screens are a strobe light. Light-bulbs
strobe. Fluorescents strobe. Streetlights strobe.
A: Police cars, ambulances, fire-trucks... How long has this been
true? Have you noticed any changes lately??!!??
Q: (F) Twenty years ago there were no strobe lights on any of
those vehicles mentioned. They had the old flasher type lights.
Now, more and more and more there are strobe lights appearing in
all kinds of places.
(L) And now, they even have them on school
(T) And the regular city buses have them too, now.
Okay, is the strobing of a strobe light, set at a certain
frequency in order to do certain things?
A: Hypnotic opener.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of the hypnotic opener being used in
A: You don't notice the craft.
Q: (T) Okay, what craft are we NOT seeing?
A: Opener. Is precursor to suggestion, which is auditory in
Q: (L) Okay, you said the "suggestion is auditory in nature." If
this is the case, where is the suggestion coming from auditorily?
A: Where do you normally receive auditory suggestions from?
Q: (L) Radio, television...
(L) Is that what we
are talking about?
Q: (L) If you encounter a strobe while driving, or you are
sitting in front of your television, then the suggestions can be
put into you better because of this hypnotically opened state?
Is that it?
Q: (L) And these suggestions are that we will not see the craft?
Q: (T) Do we get these signals from the radio in the car even if
it is turned off?
A: Depends upon whether or not there is another source.
Q: (T) Another source such as?
A: ELP, for example.
Q: (L) What is "ELP?"
A: Extremely Low Pulse.
Q: (T) ELF, Extremely Low Frequency, and ELP,
Pulse - is this the same thing?
Q: (T) This would be an external pulse or frequency?
Q: (T) Would it be originating from the source of the strobe?
A: No. They act in unison.
Q: (L) And this process prevents us from seeing something, such
as craft flying in our skies at any given time?
A: Or maybe see them as something else.
Q: (L) Now, we have to stop for a minute because I want to tell
you something. In the past few months, I have really been
watching the sky carefully every opportunity I get. On 3 or 4
separate occasions I have seen what I thought was an ordinary
airplane, and I would watch it carefully and then scan to the
left or right, and when I looked back at the place where this
plane should be, based on observable speed and direction, there
would be NOTHING there. I have stood there and searched and
searched and found nothing. These things just VANISHED. I knew I
had seen it, I knew I wasn't crazy, I knew it couldn't have gone
away that completely - and having it happen several times has
just really unsettled me. What are the implications of this,
other than the fact that we could be completely overflown at all
times for any number of purposes and be, as a mass of people,
completely unaware of it?
Q: (L) And what does the reference to monoatomic gold mean?
A: Total entrapment of the being, mind, body and soul. Strobes
use minute gold filament. What composes minute filament, do you
suppose? Hint, it ain't from Fort Knox!
Q: (T) Monoatomic gold.
A: Bingo. You see, this has extraordinary properties.
Q: (T) I'm sure it does! The thing is, if it does what
says it does, the power structure would have shut him down - he
wouldn't have gotten this far with it. So, if they are letting
him do it, it's because it doesn't do what he says it does, it
does the opposite. Which is what he said. When you take the
stuff for so many days, you complete the program, it
restructures your genes and your genetics are involved with your
perceptions and cognition of the density levels..
(L) Okay, how
do we block this kind of control?
A: You don't.
Q: (L) Is this one of the things that keeps us from expanding
into the next density, in terms of awareness?
A: Not related to that. You see, the souls that are affected by
all these "cloaking" techniques are vibrating on a low level
anyway. The point is to block those who are blockable.
Q: (L) Is there anything we can do to avoid this blocking?
A: You are not blockable. If you were, would you be doing this?
Q: (T) Okay, there's a blocking technique being used on people
to lower the vibrational frequency to prevent them from seeing
A: The blocking technique is for many things.
Q: (T) So that people do not understand what's going on around
A: Yes. That is it, in a nutshell. See and know and think or...
See, know and think that which is desired.
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