Hustler: When did you see your first UFO?
Dr. Steven M. Greer: Back in the early 1960s, when I was eight or
nine. Some neighborhood boys and I saw a disc-shaped, windowless
object that hovered, silent, then simply vanished. My parents said,
"That’s very nice" and ignored it, but I knew what I’d seen, and it
What made you leave medicine to focus on the UFO coverup full time?
In 1990 I learned that NATO and the Belgian Air Force were tracking
an enormous triangular craft -- about 800 feet in diameter -- and it
reignited my interest. I went there and actually saw the F-16
fighter jet radar tape of a massive UFO hovering, then accelerating
at several thousand miles per hour -- way outside the envelope of
what any man-made object could do.
Have you seen a UFO at close range?
My research team and I had one of these massive triangles come down
right over our car. It was vibrating on top and sounded like an
enormous transformer -- a deep, low-frequency hum. The most dramatic
thing we’ve seen is a near-landing in England, in 1992, where we had
a 100-foot diameter disc in front of us about ten feet above the
ground, signaling and communicating. There were people on board.
Has your team ever established contact with an E.T. Spacecraft?
In the early 1990’s a BBC recording crew picked up a series of
beeping tones [from a UFO]. We recorded that, and we fed it back
out. For all we know, it’s their trash compactor, but we figure that
if they see humans sending their signal back to them, they’ll
identify it as communication. In Pensacola, Florida, we signaled [a
UFO craft] with high- powered lights and lasers -- and they signaled
back to us! We have this on videotape. We go to areas where these
objects have been seen; so we’re not just sitting in our backyard.
Are UFOs hostile?
There’s not a shred of evidence that these UFOs or the life-forms
behind them are a threat or hostile to us. There is a lot of
evidence that some rogue military projects have done foolish and
dangerous things that have been aggressive toward them.
Has the government concealed E.T. vehicles and bodies?
They have several dozen extraterrestrial vehicles and dozens of
deceased [E.T.] life-forms of various races. Some are stored in an
underground facility near Fort Huachuca in Arizona.
Are secret programs developing E.T. technology?
Yes. We can prove, through the testimony of dozens of witnesses,
that there have been covert programs that have studied and figured
out the energy and propulsion systems behind UFOs. We’re talking
about a whole new type of physics that would enable humans to
generate energy from what’s called the "quantum vacuum."
How does this energy work?
There’s a baseline level of energy that’s in all the space around us
-- not outer space, but the space in this room. It’s estimated that
every cubic centimeter of space here has enough energy to run the
entire Earth for a day. This can be tapped. Some scientists are
trying to fabricate motors that extract energy from the quantum
vacuum, the energy that surrounds us.
You mean the space between atoms?
Correct. The "zero point" energy. I’ve actually seen one of these
[devices] working. Of course, the inventor has been threatened. Dr.
Eugene Mallove, who was murdered in May , and I were working
on this. I’m carrying it forward, but it’s high-risk. [for more on
Dr. Mallove and cold-fusion technology, check out
Pure Energy Systems]
How close are we to harnessing this energy?
We’re fairly close. There are people with "proof of principle"
things, but no products for sale yet. Right now we’re working with
an inventor who has created energy from this quantum vacuum in the
hundreds of watts range -- enough to run several things in your
home. We can also demonstrate the antigravity effects of
high-voltage systems under certain controlled experiments.
An electronic field makes something fairly weightless. We’re working
with a man who’s done very advanced
antigravity work. The colonel
who classified it is willing to declassify it for us to take
You’ve made an object weightless?
We’ve seen this done in a lab. The techniques for tapping this
energy have already been fully developed within rogue and covert
programs. Lockheed Skunkworks has enormous ships zipping around that
are [powered by] antigravity. A lot of the UFOs sighted in the high
desert of California and Utah are actually manmade prototypes.
Who else is making these phony UFOs?
The companies involved are SAIC [Science Applications International
Corporation], TRW, Northrop, Raytheon and
EG&G. We have enormous
intelligence on this. I know the buildings where this stuff is going
on. This needs to come out so people know the truth.
Does our tax money support these secret programs, or are they
Both. There’s private, corporate funding as well as what’s called
"black budget" sources. I met with Senator Robert C. Byrd’s staff in
1994. His senior investigator and chief counsel for the Senate
Appropriations Committee, for which he was chairman at the time,
told me that this stuff was real, [but that] they could not
penetrate this black world dealing with UFOs. At that time between
$40 billion and $100 billion a year was going into these projects,
and they could not trace the money.
Why are these programs kept secret?
Fossil fuel and the nuclear power industries would be made redundant
by these technologies that very elegantly extract energy from the
quantum vacuum, or "zero point" energy field. We have a $7 trillion
part of the world economy dealing with fossil fuels and conventional
transportation. If this information comes out - aside from people
realizing that we’re not alone in the universe - they’ll quickly see
that we don’t need oil, coal or central utilities. It’s all about
maintaining the homeostasis and status quo of the world
macro-economic and power dynamic.
How would zero-point energy transform the global economy?
It would replace everything. You wouldn’t need oil, but the $30
trillion-a-year global economy would quickly grow to $200 trillion
because there’d be clean, sustainable energy, and manufacturing and
transportation would be very inexpensive. Eighty percent of the
world’s population lives in amazing poverty, and it would lift that.
It would revolutionize the planet. People talk about the "peace
dividend," but it’s time for a "space dividend."
Who’s hiding these advanced energy systems from the public?
The entity that runs this stuff is the world’s largested
[Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization]. They used to be
MJ - Majestic-12 - but the last term I heard was
It’s not one society. There are sweeping conspiracy theories about
Trilateral Commission and
Foreign Relations. I know people in all these entities, and most of
them couldn’t find their ass in a well-lighted room. It’s much more
prosaic and nuanced than that.
Why do they feel threatened?
It would decentralize power. Right now the centralized financial and
oil system is so integrated with the way the world runs. We have
testimony about what the agenda is from people who’ve been on the
Who’s in this covert group?
There’s a committee of 200 to 300 people who are on the policy board
for this issue. Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who went from head of the
National Security Agency to the board of SAIC - which is one of the
crown jewels of this covert entity - is a member. So is Admiral
George Bush Sr., Cheney and
Rumsfeld are involved, as
is the Liechtenstein banking family. The
Mormon corporate empire has
an enormous interest in this subject; they have much more power than
the White house or the Pentagon over this issue. And there are
secret cells within
Have you met with any of these people?
There are factions within this group, and I’ve met with some of the
"good guys." People think that it’s a monolithic conspiracy, but
they’re wrong. About 40% to 50% of people involved in these
supersecret projects want this stuff out. They know we’re running
out of oil, China is industrializing, and the polar ice caps are
melting. And they know that if this [advanced E.T. technology] was
announced today, it would take ten to 20 years to get it into
widespread application to avert an economic, strategic, geopolitical
and environmental catastrophe. They see that and want to fix it, but
they’re still a minority. They’re more enlightened, but it’s the
ruthless ones who rule.
Was CIA Director William Colby involved at some point? Was his
"accidental" death in 1996 connected to your work?
Bill Colby was defecting from the supersecret group, and he was
assassinated because he was going to transfer some hard technologies
- operating devices - and $50 million in funding to us. He knew that
with my kind of willpower and connections, I would have gotten that
out to the world. He was found floating down the Potomac River the
week he was going to meet with my closest friend. They made an
example of him.
In fact, Colby’s best friend, a colonel who set up the meeting, said
it was absolutely a hit. Even his wife said on CNN,
"You know, it
was strange, because he would never go out canoeing in a flooded,
rain-swollen Potomac River at night and leave the house open and the
coffeemaker and the computer on. That’s not like Bill Colby at all."
Colby’s widow stopped short of calling it
murder. Someone may have said, "Play along, or your children are next." I
mean, these people are thugs.
Has your life been threatened?
[Around the time] Colby was killed, my right-hand assistant, a
member of Congress who was working very closely with us and myself
all got a deadly type of cancer in the same month -- different
kinds. I don’t talk about this publicly much because people say,
"Come on!" But it absolutely can be done, it was done, and everyone
died but me. I was devastated, and it took me 18 months to recover.
You’re saying the UFO-coverup conspirators can target people from a
distance and produce cancer?
Tom Bearden’s books about the
weapons systems explain how longitudinal waveforms can be a carrier
wave for this kind of thing. They can get it down to a cell, to your
DNA. It’s all resonance. We’ve had this technology since the 1950’s.
Do you have witnesses willing to step forward and reveal what they
know about this massive coverup?
We have about 450 military and government "insiders" who have been
present during rather undeniable events, including the study of
these energy and propulsion systems.
Witness Testimony Overview - "The Greatest Secret in Modern History"
- excerpts from
Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses Reveal
the Greatest Secrets in Modern History by Steven M. Greer, MD.
Do you have documents?
We have a number of smoking gun documents, including a wiretap of
Marilyn Monroe the day before she died, which has never been
declassified. She was threatening to hold a press conference to tell
the world what Jack Kennedy had told her during pillow talk about
having seen debris from an extraterrestrial vehicle at what the
document calls a "secret air base." She was murdered for this.
Why isn’t the mainstream media covering this?
The biggest problem is
the media. If a congressman starts looking
into this, they get pilloried and ridiculed by the media. There’s a
CIA document [Click here for this document.] from 1991
that clearly states that the Agency had contacts or resources at
every major media outlet to kill, spin or stop stories. It’s a
canard that we have a free press. Also, people can’t wrap their
minds around it. A former editor at the Boston Globe told me,
is just too far-out. And even if it’s true, we’d never run it
because it’s associated with tabloids and the lunatic fringe."
And yet these people put 24/7 coverage on what I call "the blowjob
heard ’round the world." And I can say that in HUSTLER. The media
will spend millions for satellite trucks and onsite reporters to
cover freak shows like the O.J. Simpsons or Michael Jackson trials.
Why is the UFO issue so urgent?
It’s about how we live our lives. Aside from cleaning up the
environment, it [E.T. technology] extricates us from our dependency
on oil, gets us out of that Middle East mess and saves the average
American household thousands of dollars a year in heating, utilities
and gas for their cars. And, globally, it frees up enormous amounts
of economic potential. This would be the tide that raises all ships.
How do you keep going in the face of so much mainstream resistance?
It’s a sort of Promethean challenge.
Lawrence Rockefeller once told
"It’s wonderful that you’re going to do this, and it’s so
important. But I’m afraid you’re going to be the court jester, that
people won’t take this seriously."
And I said, "Well, we at least
have to try."
How will you publicize your information?
We’re moving on two fronts. One is technology, working through
[Space Energy Access Systems, Inc.]. That’s the
corporate side for the technology and research we’re doing. The
second is identifying funding support for the next phase - a much
larger press and media presence with new witnesses, particularly
those involved with advanced technologies.
The limiting factor has been
funding. If I were to claim aliens had
raped me, I’d have a multimillion-dollar movie deal. Doing something
serious, there’s hardly any money available. They talk about
morality and who’s [having sex with] whom, but real morality is
being concerned with these issues.
What do our extraterrestrial visitors want?
I think they’re waiting for us to grow up and quit destroying Earth
and each other. That may be the entry requirement for joining the
interplanetary club, and we’re just not there yet. That’s the
biggest challenge for the human race.
Are you hopeful about the future?
I’m very hopeful. In fact, I have no doubt that the outcome will be
peaceful, that these technologies will completely rehabilitate
Earth’s fortunes and environment, and eliminate poverty. And it will
happen in our lifetimes. But the question is, how much madness has
to go on between now and then?