Kerry Cassidy: This is Kerry Cassidy
and Bill Ryan from Project Camelot, and we're here with George Green,
hoping to get an update on the world today. And it's Wednesday where we
are, actually, at 9 in the morning. And where you are, it’s 9 at night.
Is that right, George?
George Green: That’s correct.
K: On Tuesday night. You’re on October 21st, the evening, in the
United States. So tell me what’s going on with you.
G: Well, I’m observing the world meltdown right now in a lot of
different directions. As you probably are aware, the G-8’s meeting...
everybody’s getting together. And Bush went over to see Sarkozy in
France. But the G-8 people are not willing to take the dollar as the
base currency from now on. So they’re postponing their meeting till
after the election, when Obama gets in.
K: So what does that mean? Does that mean that our money isn’t good in
G: What they’re trying to do is get a currency that they count on. Most
of the world now is recognizing that the dollar is a dead currency,
because they just got through putting out, as you know, another 250
billion into the banks. And under the fractional banking system, that
made another 2.5 trillion dollars worth of debt available to put out
into the system. But nobody’s borrowing the money.
K: Oh, really.
G: That’s correct. I mean, it’s made available, but everybody is
concerned right now. Because not only is that happening, but everybody’s
being laid off. I mean, Ford Motor Company has laid off another 10% of
their staff. That was today. Its stock has dropped down. All of the car
companies, the sales are down 30 and 40%. Boeing’s people that are on
strike - I understand that they may be laying off another 20,000
people. Nobody talks about the unemployment situation.
And they’re also not talking in another area, which is the next
meltdown, and that is the derivatives area on credit cards throughout
the world. Many credit cards right now, in other countries, aren’t being
accepted. As you go to use a major credit card, it won’t go through.
G: Because of the banking stream.
K: Fascinating. Do you know which credit cards?
G: No; they’re all being affected. It just depends on what the credit
people are doing. I mean, even...You can go check it out from when the
local credit people - did they want to take the risk and making sure
that they’re going to advance money on it to the local people?
So what they’re doing is, they’re just trying to get verification on
everything. So if you’re in a foreign country, like you are right now,
if the hotel or stuff will not take your credit card, then you have to
call for verification back. And that’s a possibility, because that’s
what’s happening all over, because most of the money being traded right
now is digitized anyway.
G: Now you have the other thing that happened. As you know, the Iraqi
government is not going to go along with the terms of the United States
right now, and they want to delay till after Obama comes in, also. And
that’s because they want to have control and get the troops out of their
K: Oh, for sure. I’m sure. No doubt about that. But I believe that’ll
G: Well, that’s what they’re trying to say, that it’ll never happen, but
remember, we’ve been doing all kinds of things with the Iraqi people. So
we have to watch the play going on.
Now, my other sources are saying that when Obama gets in, within
probably 3 to 4 months, Kerry, we have to do something, because the
unemployment and the massive repression that’s going to happen around
the planet - actually going into depression in many places - is going
to cause the people behind the scenes, in order to get something going,
to begin WW III.
K: Right. Yeah. I do understand that that might be a tactic. What is
going on with this Mutual Fund deal? Because didn’t they just try to put
money into propping up the Mutual Funds?
G: Well, it wasn’t the Mutual Funds. You’re talking about the... People
were putting money into Mutual Funds as a backup for the money. In other
words, your cash, you put it into a cash account and they put it in
But what the provisions were, they said they would guarantee - all
these are Money Market Mutual Funds - they would guarantee the Money
Market Mutual Funds only for the people who had money in there at that
time. Well, 12 billion dollars went into Money Market Mutual Funds the
very next day. So there’s a lot of negotiations going back and forth. So
they want to cover that too.
Now that’s everybody that’s running around trying to save their assets,
Kerry. That’s the biggest problem we have.
And I had a meeting the other day with some of my banking friends in the
real estate end of it, and they’re still expecting over 11 million
foreclosures to happen next year.
And I’m having a meeting next week with two senators. And you know what,
the last comment they made to me - which I thought was very important - they said within six months, you will not recognize the dollar. So my
meeting I have next week will be very interesting on that.
K: Wow. OK. I mean, there is so much stuff going on right now. It’s
coming incredibly fast and furious.
G: That‘s correct.
K: I understand the stock market was down another 200...
G: 250 points.
G: Now, the problem with the stock market is people are aware that their
stocks are being traded. They’re not aware that only a few of the
stocks... In other words, they may be in...
Let’s give you an illustration: If you have 100 stocks that were traded,
100 different companies, they can manipulate 3 or 4 of those companies
and cause the appearance that it’s going up. It can’t shift 1,000 points
in one day like it did without it being controlled.
And the control mechanism is the Federal Reserve itself, through its
“Plunge Committee”, which is basically some of the members of the, as
you know, the Federal Reserve as well as the government itself, that are
manipulating a few stocks in order to maintain what they call “sanity”
within the street. Because everybody in the United States is in a fear
mode right now. They don’t want to buy stocks. So there’s panic.
G: There’s about 2.5 trillion dollars worth of stocks that have
evaporated. If you’re asking my professional opinion? I told you, I
think a month ago, I said that the stocks would go down to about 8,500.
Well, it hit the 8,500, as you know.
G: The next level... Well, it’s up over around 9,000 right now, but I
think with the melt-off that I’m feeling from other sources... because
OPEC is meeting because of the decline in the oil. People are not
acquiring things like they did. I see the stock market going clear down
to 3,500, frankly.
G: You bet.
K: Wow. OK. There are people out there actually buying stock. Who would
you say that is? Are there people trying to, you know, make a quick
buck, and then get out again?
G: Well, the Mutual Funds are the ones that have all the assets. The
individual person is not doing... They’re just trying to save
themselves. And the ones that are sitting by with all their 401-Ks and
the rest of them, are just watching their assets going away. They don’t
have a lot of control on this.
G: But the Mutual Funds themselves control 60% of the stocks that are
K: Oh, really. So it’s the major funds.
G: Exactly. The major funds. And the hedge funds right now, because they
were always betting on the market going in a different direction. All of
a sudden all of this is running away and it’s causing them to dump
massive amounts of their stocks, including their positions in gold and
silver, and other commodities, frankly - which is causing a whole
But the whole rest of the world’s in the same boat. China’s backing off.
You know, China and Japan are still meeting, as you well know, on trying
to figure out a new currency, because nobody wants to use the dollar.
They want to break, you know, the Bretton Woods Agreement, which said
that we would use the dollar as the “bank currency” and it would remain
the level throughout the world.
Well, they don’t want to do that any more. And that’s what everybody’s
talking about. What kind of meeting can they have? And they all... They
want to have this meeting after the new president gets in. That means...
My question is: When he gets office - when he takes office in January?
Or after he gets through being elected?
So something’s going to happen in the next couple of weeks, that we’re
going to see the changes that are happening.
Meanwhile, the meltdown of the market’s obviously going to go on. And
the market represents nothing. It doesn’t have any business at all other
than trading between the brokers.
And this was on national television - they sat down with the brokers in
New York. They didn’t care which way the market’s going, up or down,
because they make money trading, whether selling or buying. So they’re
just having a field day with all this.
And meanwhile, the American people - their so-called illusion of equity
is going away, as well as foreigners who bought into the drama.
And that’s what’s happening. And the derivative market is sold out to
the entire world in various denominations. And they’re not even touching
the credit card derivatives. And that’s going to come out in the next
couple of weeks.
K: OK. When you say what’s going to happen when - I was going to say
when Obama gets into office - but when whoever wins gets into office.
G: Oh, Obama’s already named, Kerry. I’ve told you that before.
G: He’s been named the next president. And he’s already got the
Electoral College, so we don’t care what happens at this point. He’s
going to get the popular vote and the rest of it.
K: Well, he’s...
G: The rest of it’s just a show.
K: Do you think the election is going ahead, though, on schedule?
G: Yeah. I do. Sure. That’s two weeks.
K: OK. Yeah. You know that Obama is down in Florida right now meeting
with the former head of, what is it, the Federal Reserve?
G: You mean with Volcker?
G: Well, he may be. He’s gonna get an education. First of all, he came
into this thing... He’s being given information by a lot of the insiders
that are up close to the top that are trying to tell him which way to
You know, Volcker and I actually flew together on a plane from Aspen
back to Denver. And, you know, this man at that time - of course, as
chairman of the Federal Reserve, I figured was the most powerful man in
the world - but he just represents the most powerful men, you know, the
ones that run the Federal Reserve.
K: Yeah. For sure.
G: And so, when the Feds have a meeting, they’re going to give him an
education on trying to keep the Federal Reserve going. The trouble is,
the Federal Reserve could collapse. So you’re looking at a total
collapse and a total depression, not recession, a depression in the
United States. And the rest of the world’s going to follow suit.
K: Right. OK. So what is the currency that people are going to be
looking at in the future? Because if the dollar is gone, what are we
looking at? We’re looking at some major currency? A brand new currency
for the whole world?
G: Yeah. Well, that’s what... Yeah, a brand new currency is what the G-8
people are talking about right now.
I mean, some of the data that I got later on today was talking about,
you know, they have to do something in coordinating with Japan, China,
and Russia. And they’ve all said they do not want the dollar involved.
So the United States, of course, is trying to push this.
And remember, it’s only been done by the idea that we would have
aggression and we’d go out...we’re the most powerful people in the
world... would have been allowed to stabilize this.
Well, this is all coming undone everywhere. So you’re asking for what
the new currency is? I don’t know what. That’s what they’re meeting on
right now. And I’ll hopefully have more of an indication next week with
the senators. Because, like I say, they’re involved with some of this.
At least they have the information, you know, the stuff that’s being
talked behind the scenes.
K: Yeah. I bet. Well, I also wonder what’s going on, you know, about
their preparations for anything like martial law, that sort of thing. Do
you think you’re going to hear anything about that?
G: Well, they’re already making motions on that. I will know more
details about that at the end of the meeting - I think it’s next Friday
or Saturday - that I’m having with them. And we’ll be discussing
exactly which way to go. Because they’re trying to protect the same
Now, my CIA - the Crooks-In-Action - friends that I have [Kerry
laughs], you know, they’re just totally happy that they’re leaving the
country or have left the country. They just don’t see the United States
as being a good place to be. [laughs]
K: Right. So what they’re basically doing is living in South America.
G: That’s right.
K: And they’ll still to have to, you know, live their lives and have
some kind of currency down there.
G: Well, Brazil has its own currency. Tonight on television they’re
saying that they’re OK. They’re recognizing that we’re going to have a
slight slow-down there. But their economy is based on what they have in
the exported goods.
Remember, Germany itself said they don’t care either. But they sell
goods to other parts of the world also. The United States... Remember,
we only have 4-1/2% of the world’s population.
G: The rest of the world can’t be running on a few things that’re going
on over here, because we’re not consuming anything.
I mean, there’s houses... Everywhere across the country that I go right
now, there’s blocks upon blocks of them that are for sale. Where I’m at
right now, across the street two years ago was selling for $450,000. The
bank sold it the other day at $126,000.
K: You’re kidding me! Wow!
G: No, I’m not.
K: That’s amazing.
G: Well, they’re trying to get cash. That’s the trouble. They have to do
that or the banks... It’s called REO, real estate owned, and if they do
take the property back, then they have to pull back, you know, unwrap
the leverage position they had because of the fractional reserve system.
Now, that’s basically what they’re talking right now, putting out money
into the banks so they can continue to gain. But nobody wants to buy
anything right now because they’re afraid they might not have a job on
K: OK. What do you think...? I mean, isn’t the writing on the wall going
to be really strong when December comes around and nobody, you know, is
shopping, as the retail sector goes down?
G: Well, they’re already reporting that sales are down. I’ve already
said that Sears and K-Mart both aren’t reporting sales right now,
because if they did that, then their stock could go way down. And I’m
saying the only way they can do is go - what they did a couple years
ago - go back into bankruptcy.
K: So what about this thing where Kirkorian is selling a stake in Ford?
G: Well, he’s getting rid of all of it because Ford is technically
K: Right. And I understand that GM is looking for a major investor as
G: General Motors is an interesting situation, because most of the car
companies, if you look at it, got rid of most of their liabilities when
they dumped all of the pension funds, all of the health benefits, on the
Unions themselves. The Unions thought they were doing a good thing by
assuming liability but that was upside-down. That’s not being addressed
to the public yet. You remember all the health benefits that supposedly
the workers got.
But GM, because their sales are down 30-some percent, as you know, and
Ford’s 40-some percent. Will Ford exist in the next year? That’s the
So they’re all trying to look at it on a world basis, the merger of
things, and if they could come out with something new... Now, India’s
coming out with a new car, as you know, and China’s come out with one,
K: Oh really. OK. Well, what about the idea that’s in the news today?
India’s launching an orbiter to the Moon. What do you think of that?
What’s that all about?
G: Well, that’s just to show that they have the nuclear power and the
capability. China and India are doing a 2-1/2-billion-dollar new project
India has done two things. The United States has made an agreement, and
they tell everybody, to put a billion-dollar reactor in India. But India
also made the same deal with Russia. Russia’s going to put in a nuclear
reactor. As you know, Russia’s been putting nuclear reactors all over.
And this is to get energy.
Now, their refinery was a joint venture between China and India on their
border, a refinery for petroleum products. Now, obviously with the
slowdown... Now China’s having a slowdown; India’s going to have a
slowdown. But these two countries together, as you know, China and
India, represent almost 40% of the world’s population.
And they’re in the position right now of not... Their food production
and everything is able for themselves at this minute. So our exports - because we’ve been living on exporting our products and stuff to them
- they’re gonna ignore them in this minute until we get some kind of level
playing-field with the money.
So the next two weeks, like you and I are watching, when the G-8 meets,
and if they continue the game until after a year – but I don’t think
they can continue past after the election, frankly – at that point we’ll
know which way the moss is going to flow. I mean, they’re going to feel
comfortable about it and at that point they’ll want to get a new
currency so they can have some kind of exchange going.
That’s probably part of the reason that the Bank of International
Settlements, as you know, a couple months ago, got permission from the
Bush administration to audit the Federal Reserve.
There are so many things going on behind the scenes right now. If they
can audit the Federal Reserve... Remember, many congressmen have been
trying to do that for many years right now, even Ron Paul.
K: So what does that entail? If they audit the Federal Reserve, what are
they going to find out? Are they going to find out about black projects,
for example? Or is this...
G: They’re going to find out that they’re been... the money... the
percentage games... When you join the franchise... Like I explained
before, if you’re a franchise like Best Western or Marriott or whatever,
you pay... A percentage of the income goes back to the franchisee.
Well, the Federal Reserve is the franchisee. So they get a percentage of
everything. But they’ve got to give a fee back to the Bank of
International Settlements. That’s the bankers’ bank.
Well, what if they find out that they’ve been lied to all the way?
They’re just going to shut the system down and now we’re going to be in
something totally new and nobody really knows what’s going to come out
of this. Like I say, we’re going to be in a massive depression.
I’m hoping people will have at least two or three months’ worth of food
stored up. I’m telling everybody to get cash, you know, a couple months
in small bills – $1s, $5s, $10s and $20s – nothing more than that. It’s
just so you’ll be able to exchange, whether or not they’re gonna be
I mean, there’s some talk, with some of my other broker friends, they
say we’re gonna have two currencies, one that you can use in the United
States. And something else overseas. Now, you know, you’re overseas now.
Will they still accept the dollar?
K: Well... you know, yeah, they’ve accepted it, In other words, I’ve
traded it in, you know. I traded in the dollar. Actually, as you know,
they’re propping up the dollar at the moment.
K: I mean, the US dollar is actually worth more right now than the
Aussie dollar, which is supposed to be a good currency and fairly
G: Well, they’ve done this. This is an arbitrary, you know,
thought-provoking thing. So we’ve got the government basically
nationalizing all the banks, nationalizing everything so they can say
this is a strong currency.
But we don’t produce anything. Kerry, one out of 3 people in the United
States work for the government.
G: That’s correct. One out of three people work for companies that have
contracts with the government.
Now we have the next problem: 50% of the people in the United States - that’s half of them
- are over age 50.
K: Right. Well, the people that are working for companies that have
contracts with the government is the military-industrial complex, so
you’re talking about companies like Boeing and Northrop and so and so
forth. And they are all... all about building war machines.
K: That will keep them going...
G: And all their stock has gone down today.
K: All of it?
G: All their stock has gone down. And Boeing has been on strike. Their
workers have been on it. And the people in Seattle... I was talking to
’em the other day. In fact, I flew in with ‘em. They were talking about,
well, they’re probably gonna get laid off. Well, they could lay off
23,000 of ’em.
K: OK. But if the defense industry starts going down, then that’s when
you have to look to the situation where they’re going to create some
G: There you go.
G: There you go. You’ve got the right idea, about what I feel; it’s the
same boat. The next thing they’re gonna have to do is address the
problem. Because we’ve still got 40% of the world existing on less than
$2 a day.
I mean, everything‘s out of balance. We’re increasing the population on
the planet, you know, 200,000-plus a day, or 5 million a month. Where’s
all the food? Where’s all the things coming from? And it’s coming to the
It’s a challenge for us, you and I and everybody else I know, to keep
ahead of all the information. And I get tons of it thrown at me from all
over the globe. I mean, I get calls...
K: Well, you’ve actually become kind of a focus-point, I think, at this
time, just because of your incredible, you know, financial acumen, and
then everything else that you’ve got going behind you. So, I mean,
people are contacting you right and left. I’d love to know, or be
sitting in on some of those conversations you’re having right now.
G: Well, I’m sure. And I’d enjoy doing that, and I think at some
point... I’m talking to people right now, of having some kind of a, you
know, maybe a weekly newsletter, up on my website, or something that
comes down on these things, to keep up with the data that’s coming in.
Meanwhile, they’re all talking in every direction about shutting down
the net because of the information.
K: Nah. Well, OK. Have you also heard about the situation with these, I
don’t know... ships? There’s like three of them out there with
radioactive waste from out of Taiwan?
G: The radioactivity is a real problem. Yeah, I’ve heard about that,
that they’ve put the ships out there. They’re going off...
We‘ve dumped so much radiation into the ocean, Kerry, and we’ve, you
know... My friends down in Alamogordo called me – that’s in New Mexico.
The government, they said, is trying to burn waste. I’m talking about
nuclear waste. You can’t burn that! You just put more radiation in the
air. That’s already the...
I mean, why did they start the Non-Proliferation Agreement immediately
after they stopped dropping all these bombs? That’s because we messed up
the atmosphere. That’s what’s eating holes in the ozone.
So radiation is affecting everything, but it’s slow-moving. That’s the
whole basis... You can’t have radiation that’s being transmitted into
people, like the crazy uranium [“depleted” uranium], as you are well
aware, that we’re using in shells. Yeah, it hardens the shells and it
does things. But look at the Iraqi people! And look what’s happening to
our soldiers coming back here.
K: Oh yeah. Absolutely.
G: And that’s... You know, all of these little pieces fit into the
puzzle. And when I talk to some of my medical professionals, you know,
on the problem, they don’t really have a solution on this thing. Because
this is not an instant thing where you kind of click on, all of a
sudden, you’re... You know. The cancers that are formed within your
body... Because we’re kind of an adaptable species.
K: Exactly. Well, yeah. And we have to actually rely on that to stay
What about the prices of gold and silver right now? Because it seems
like they’re just keeping that stuff down.
G: Well, that’s the thing. Sure. The hedge funds are dumping to try to
get liquidity, so they took big positions in the metal. I think that’ll
be turning around in the next two weeks, frankly.
K: OK. The paper versus the actual metal? Is there going to be a
discrepancy there? Or if it goes up, will it go up everywhere?
G: Well, here’s the problem right now... Because I just got, am getting,
10,000 ounces of metal and my delivery time is like... 2 months? Forget
it! And my silver and my gold...
They have so many people now that are going to the metals. The price
that they quote in New York right now is basically the London market,
which is done by paper that’s supposedly paper-on-deposit. Wherever they
have the gold and stuff, they’re selling the paper. And that’s supposed
to be determining the price on it.
Well, I just got through paying a couple dollars over spot. I’m buying
two dollars over spot because there’s none available. There’s something
wrong with this picture.
K: OK. And so...
G: Sure, they tell you that gold dropped down $20 today. And I said:
Well, gee, I just paid - Just to give you an idea, I paid $903 for an
ounce of gold because there wasn’t any available.
K: OK. So... I don’t understand. How can the price go down?
G: Well, because the hedges are dumping their prices. This is an
arbitrary... That’s the trouble with the stock market. When they have
100 shares trade in a stock, it determines the value of the other
2-million shares that are trading. See, we have an arbitrary thing
that’s being manipulated by these few things.
The Data Institute - that’s a group of people that are in the gold, and
they’ve been checking and following this - they’ve been trying to get
Congress to investigate on how they manipulate the price of gold and
silver. Well, there’s only so much. The silver...
I’m about 20 miles from the Silver Valley up here, the second largest
silver production in the continental United States, up here in Idaho.
And I was with the president of the company, and we were discussing, you
know, the global situation. We have maybe four-and-a-half-months of
silver, overall, in reserve, to cover for the world. What happens in
The other problem is, the EPA and the rest of ’em are coming in and
they’re shutting down the mines because of what’s happening, because the
mine’s price of silver is down. So we’re going to eat this up.
It’s kind of like having the oil people... OPEC is moving in the same
direction. Well, people have quit using it for a little bit. It won’t be
too long before you won’t have the production there and, you know... I
looked at, believe it or not, gasoline today at $2.66 a gallon.
K: [laughs] So this should be good news, but in reality it’s a problem.
G: Well... Because the next thing is, how many people now aren’t paying
their rent? How many people are out of a job? And the government is now
talking about extending more unemployment benefits. In other words, just
giving money out to people to go look at it.
I talked to one of the workers that, you know, helps the senior citizens
that can’t take care of themselves? Some of these people aren’t even
getting food. I mean, it’s deplorable, just listening to the stories of
what’s happening. The food banks are out of food, you know the ones that
help people that go in for Food Stamps? They don’t have any.
K: Yeah. Absolutely. OK. We have been hearing something about, I don’t
know, something - this is from a secret source - saying to be very
careful. Because, you know, I’m flying back into the United States.
And they’re saying something could be up, that some of the forces on a
secret level are working very hard to make sure nothing happens on US
soil, saying between now and the inauguration. Have you heard anything
on that level?
G: Well, I heard two things. One thing, they were trying to get
something so we could have a national emergency called. But I’m
concerned on two different areas on that.
I think that you’re right. We’re in the stable deal. But, as you know,
my partner is a clairvoyant and she’s very... Let’s put it this way: She
feels something’s going on right now as you and I speak. And she’s been
talking to some other people in London that are “friends like her,” and
they say the same thing: Within the next 60 days something major’s gonna
happen. But they didn’t pinpoint what was gonna happen, Kerry.
K: Oh really. So...
K: So, are you guys planning to tactfully, possibly, exit, you know,
stage right, so to speak?
G: Well, I have my tickets, and I was just working on it, to go down to
Ecuador. I’m supposed to go to a couple places. I was gonna come down
and see you but I don’t think I’m going to make it. I may come down to
K: Well, I’m going to be in Arizona, so, you know, I wish you...
G: Yeah. I may be doing that and then heading off. Tomorrow I’ll know
more of my schedule. But I do have tickets already and I’m planning
on... you know, it’s kind of family thing... but in the next four weeks
I’ll be down in Ecuador.
K: Really. OK. What do you think’s going to go on as far as once Obama
gets into office? Because... I don’t know. I’ve heard that actually
that’s not going to help matters, so to speak, as much as people think
G: Oh. It’s not. Obama will get into it. They want to set this whole
thing up so the whole democratic thing all falls apart anyway. And he
doesn’t know what he’s getting into, frankly. I mean, he’s being pushed
to get in.
It’s kind of like, you know... Sarah Palin, once she got, took, the
offer to become the vice president up there... They just got her out of
the way for what she was doing up in Alaska.
G: She was doing good for the State of Alaska. Now they just pulled her
away from all the play.
K: Oh, that’s interesting.
G: And the story behind that is unbelievable.
K: So she’s been distracted, basically, because of the whole oil
G: That’s it. That’s right. They get her out.
K: Why did they want to take her away, though?
G: Well, if you notice, in Alaska the senators and other people are
being indicted for fraud and that. And the people that control...
32 out of 33 of the strategic minerals in the world are located up in
Alaska. And the inner group up there was giving it to their buddies. How
do you think they get all these new airplanes and all these trips and
all the rest of this stuff? It’s a payoff.
So the big companies continue to gain, with Alaska as big as it is. You
don’t realize the size of it. If you started from Miami and went to
Seattle, that’s about the size of Alaska.
G: And they don’t have many people up there.
K: That’s right.
G: And so, meanwhile, because of what’s happening on climate changes and
everything else, all these mineral resources and the availability of
having the Alaskan “government,” if you want to look at it, being very
favorable to the inner group so they could get on and rape more of the
planet, you know, taking the mineral resources.
Sarah was stopping all that. They said: If you’re gonna do that, then
you want to make it so the people of Alaska benefit from it.
So they just dangled the bait: Hey, I’ll make you vice president. She
jumped on it. The Lieutenant-Governor up there... The
Lieutenant-Governor of Alaska was just bought and paid for.
So now they put her up there and she thinks she’s doing a good thing.
But actually the vice president has no power.
K: [laughs] Right. Well, in the case where Obama wins, she’s not going
to be in the game anyway. And I sort of think she was taken out by that
family incident, where the... you know, he lost his job.
G: No. That’s a distraction. It was all over the other stuff, over the
mineral resources and stuff, so they could get control and get her out
of it. But that’s OK.
K: OK. Very interesting.
G: Well, it’s the power game. You know, absolute power corrupts
absolutely. But if we can get you... That’s the aphrodisiac: We’ll put
you in a position of power.
Then you start looking... Always follow the money. These people are all
manipulating. Why is Volcker having a meeting - you know, the former
chairman, as you say - with Obama right now? Maybe he’s gonna bring him
up and say: Wait a minute, you gotta help. You gotta do something to
What’s happening is, even most of the Congress, even though they’re
aware of the Federal Reserve, they don’t know that we’re being
K: Oh, for sure. The game goes far beyond that.
What do you think about Joe Biden? Do you think he’s really going to
make it into office, you know, as the vice president behind Obama?
Because we had word that Hillary was going to be back on the ticket. And
I know there’s only two weeks left [until the election], so it seems
absurd that that would happen. But I heard that health problems might
crop up, or it could be other things.
G: No. I think he’s gonna get into office. But I think Hillary, and the
same thing with the other players... He’s just getting his Chief of
Staff up there. And I’m sure Hillary and Bill and the rest of ’em’ll all
be into some position and make a big difference. They really will.
K: Oh yeah.
G: You know, when you look at our dear retired general [Powell], he’s
already been Secretary of State for a couple of times. But, you know,
ethically, he was just lead down the primrose path when they came down
to the deal in Iraq on the whole stuff. But this is all part of that
“intelligence community” we have out there. You know, the CIA, the
K: OK. Well, what about Colin Powell coming out on the side of Obama?
Behind the scenes, do you know which faction is backing Obama, besides,
you know, the obvious?
G: Well, no. The Rockefellers wanted Obama in a long time ago. But when
you talk about Colin Powell, you know that he’s moving into position to
be one of his... And he submitted, as you know, on the meeting of it,
because he tends to be willing to serve his president. So they’ll put
him into some position. He’s great for working out the Middle East.
Again, the wild card in this whole thing is: What are we gonna be
dealing with? Because we’re now a bankrupt country. Our currency’s not
going to be allowed any place.
And you know what happened in Iraq today. Their government just backed
off of all of these requirements for pulling out. And I think that the
government’s saying: Get out of Iraq. And they’re waiting for Obama to
get in, and that’s part of the delay.
G: Even though they’ve got... You know, they have the biggest embassy.
The United States has the biggest embassy in the world. It’s over in
Iraq right now.
K: Except my understanding is that the reasons they went into Iraq to
begin with is because they want to guard that Stargate that’s there,
during the time when what may be Planet X comes around and/or some of
the changes that are happening here behind the scenes with ETs and so
G: Well, I can’t... For that area I’m not really too sure because I was
involved with the other people who were involved with...
You know, it all goes back to the days when the Iraq War “A” [Desert
Storm] started. You know, the Kuwaitis were slant-drilling underneath
the Iraqi territory and they brought it in. It’s all over oil for right
The Iraqi thing has obviously got a lot of artifacts and stuff over in
Iraq that show the extraterrestrial connection. And is there a Stargate
there? Or are there other places around the planet? I mean, we’re all
We’re all going into an interesting time, Kerry, and I can’t really give
you an answer on what you’re saying on that.
K: OK. But you do have, you know... I mean, you’re still getting some
“downloads”, are you not? From your Pleiadians?
G: My ETs?
G: Yeah. Well, they’re above the Pleiadians.
K: They are?
G: Yeah. The information I get is from a higher energy source than the
Pleiadians. I mean, they’re just kind of like you and I are. And most of
the Pleiadians, frankly, I think have left. Most of ’em have left the
planet. It’s other extraterrestrials now that are sitting there rubbing
their fingers, hoping we’re going to destroy ourselves.
K: OK. So what are you getting from your sources? Are you writing this
stuff down like you did? Because, you know, you have your three books
K: And we can say: Handbook for a New Paradigm, Embracing the Rainbow,
G: Yeah, but there’s another one, the Messages to the Ground Crew. That
was the last name. That one really said it in big spades. It said just
get ready for the big, you know, unbridled truth that’s coming on to the
K: OK. Well, you know, we created a forum that’s all around the Ground
Crew and we’ve got a huge... I guess we’ve got 4,000 people visiting it
G: I’m going to get on there this week, I promise. I’ll get on there
G: I have been so busy. And I’m glad you do. I’ve got, like, 12,000 on
my own list just in the last year. [laughs]
G: And I’m working with some people right now that are trying to manage
my own website better because it’s just unbelievable the number of
actions we’re getting. I mean, you know, on the whole, like you’re
getting, and so am I. [laughs] We’ll see what we can do.
K: Well, let me ask you this, because we’re just about to release
another interview with Bob Dean who has come forward. And he actually
spoke at the UFO Expo, and I think he broke the news there. But he’s
coming forward saying that, you know, Nibiru is a real issue and that
the government knows it.
G: Oh sure. Well, we know that Nibiru is... Well, my partner, Gillian,
knows all of that information on that and she can go into more detail
than I can. And so, we’ll have to get her on the air with you and you
can discuss the whole thing.
K: That would be lovely. That’d be wonderful. We definitely would love
to do that. OK. Is there any parting remarks? You know. And then we want
to call you back for a sort of a personal conversation, if you don’t
mind. But before we do that, are there any other remarks that you want
to make about the current situation? Maybe words of advice to the Ground
G: Well, the words I have right now is just what I said before: Get your
food stored up. If you need some appliances, go out and buy ’em while
you can buy ’em cheap right now, because my friends were telling me that
China’s saying pay ’em in any other currency besides the dollar in order
to get the stuff. So I’m going to see a lot of goods and stuff kind of
disappear off the shelves very shortly. And you might as well get it
while you can. It’d be for trading stock.
G: Food. And get yourself someplace that you can go, away from major
cities. Because I am getting a lot of calls from people right now, that
the military is doing some exercises in different places.
K: Right. We did get some information about that. We’ve also got Bill
Deagle talking about H5N1 - it’s a virus.
G: The avian flu virus. Right.
K: Have you heard anything about that?
G: No, I didn’t go into any details. Remember, when I sat in on the
meetings when they were looking to population reduction, they said: By
all means necessary. That’s viruses, too, because they were cheaper.
The new pulsed-beam weapons - the ones they developed off of alien
craft - they’re really looking at that, too. They can just basically
send out a beam and shut down all electronic things, and everything
else, and put you basically back in the Stone Age instantly.
K: Wow. OK.
G: That’s all available at this minute. But if they’re looking for
population reduction in order to try to keep ahold of what we’ve had as
the United States being the most powerful one, they want to try to keep
the economy going. I want to see how they’re going to try to unravel it
with the rest of the world leaders. Because they’re not buying it.
K: Oh, I’m sure of it. What about... There’s one last thing, which is,
we’re hearing things about ships coming into port and not having letters
of credit, so they’re not able to deliver the goods.
G: The letter of credit was for the goods that you’re talking about?
When they have the delivery, they come up and they can’t get their cash.
I’ve heard that also from a couple of other places. In other words, the
ships... You know, they were costing them about almost $40,000 a day for
fuel to run these things. But the prices are down.
But the goods they were delivering... They were given a letter of credit
that as soon as the boat, you know, came up, or unloaded whatever the
boat was loaded with, the letter of credit then would be funded. But the
banks are broke.
G: So what do they do? Then they go out to find somebody else to buy it.
And if they can, the people are buying it for 10-cents on the dollar.
Yeah, I’ve heard that already. And they’re doing that like they do with
some of the real estate stuff they’re doing right now for 25- and
30-cents on the dollar. So yeah. [laughs] It’s a big meltdown, Kerry.
That’s all you can look at.
K: Yeah, it’s pretty worldwide. Well, I think that you’re also talking
about countries like Africa and the smaller, you know, small islands,
and places in the third world that are going to be hit the hardest, it
seems to me.
G: Well, look. These countries that you’re talking about and other
things that are hit the hardest because of the benefits that we’ve been
putting out, in other words, trying to help the people.
K: They have no tourism, you know. A lot of these places aren’t going to
G: Look at what they’re doing right now in Vegas. Right now... There’s a
whole area right now - you’ve got hotel rooms for 30 bucks a night. I
mean, about 70 of ’em along the Strip.
G: Because there’s nobody coming in there. You know, gambling has always
been good. My son-in-law was going to build a new casino, and they just
K: Oh, did they?
G: Yeah. This is all in the last week, so he’s going to be without a
job. And he just did a billion-dollar project and he was going to do
another billion-dollar one.
K: Very interesting. OK. Well, we’re going to be speaking at the Crash
Retrieval Conference coming up in Vegas, as you know.
G: On the 9th [of November]. Yeah, I know. We’ll be talking. We’ll do
that at another time.
K: Absolutely. OK. Well, we’re going to get back with you with a private
conversation here but thank you, George, for this update. We’re going to
put this on our site.
G: Thanks, Kerry.
K: And we really do appreciate you, you know, staying in touch with us
and keeping us up to date on what’s going on.
G: Well, I hope to see you both.
K: Absolutely. All right. Take care. Bye.