"I’d like to add a bit to what 
				Steven (Dr. 
				Steven Greer) had to say. It was a marvelous report, 
				but what I’d like to add to it is that in our briefing of the 
				Joint Chiefs of Staff Intelligence Group, it became very 
				clear to us that they were naive. They did not really know any 
				more about this effort than we do, if as much. That is because, 
				as Bob Dean pointed out earlier, most of the people in 
				government were not in government when I retired twenty five 
				years ago, they are younger people. 
				 
				
				The files going back fifty years 
				just no longer exist. They’ve either been purged, compromised or 
				whatever. They don’t exist. So when we blame government for not 
				being forthright, they really don’t have anything to be 
				forthright about, at least at that level. Now, somewhere there’s 
				knowledgeable people, and Steven has ferreted out quite a 
				few of them. And in my own efforts in talking with these folks, 
				and talking with government, the question often comes up as to 
				how they could have kept this a secret for so long. And friends 
				they haven’t. It’s been around us all the time, but it has been 
				denied, and obscured.
				
				
				I often like to state the condition, the story, the myth if you 
				will, about 
				Columbus coming here and some 
				of the Indians not seeing the ships simply because it was not in 
				their collective consciousness and their repertoire, they at 
				least didn’t want to see them. Much of what we’re seeing now is 
				what many people don’t want to see either. There’s been a 
				massive effort at creating that, of denying the obvious, of 
				saying that you’re not seeing what’s sitting right in front of 
				you right now, thus causing doubt in your own mind. It’s 
				amazingly effective. So, documentation and evidence, that is 
				probably the smoking gun type of evidence, has been totally 
				compromised by saying that it’s simply not true. So it is not 
				true that they (government) have kept the secret.
				 
				
				They haven’t kept the secret, but it 
				has been totally compromised by misinformation and 
				disinformation.
				
				
				Now for my own experience, I have had no first hand experience 
				like so many of you. I have not encountered a UFO, and we 
				did not have them trailing us as far as we know, going to the 
				moon. We didn’t meet anyone on the moon. We did it just like we 
				said we did. For the last twenty-five years we have dealt with 
				the issue of, on one hand, the flat-earthers who said, ‘you 
				didn’t go anywhere, it was all filmed out here in the desert,’ 
				and on the other hand, another fringe that said, ‘yes you have 
				been there, but you were followed. You were in contact with 
				UFOs. There were beings on the moon that you met and had 
				contact with.’ 
				 
				
				Well, that’s not true either. So, we 
				have walked between these two extremes of misinformation, 
				disinformation and pure ignorance. We did what we said we did, 
				and I want to assure you, from that period up until the current 
				time, NASA was one of the organizations ignorant of this 
				type of activity. And the prevailing wisdom in NASA 
				(at-the-time) was that we didn’t even think about it. It was a 
				ridiculous idea that we would encounter beings on the moon.
				
				
				However, in the last twenty-five years since that time, I became 
				quite knowledgeable and became friends with 
				
				Allan Hynek. 
				I know and work with 
				
				Jacques Vallee consistently 
				now, and I have known the gentlemen on this stage, Bob Dean 
				and Steven Greer for a few years. For me with all the 
				evidence, it’s not a matter of believing, it’s a matter of the 
				preponderance of evidence, and the evidence keeps building.
				
				 
				
				The sightings keep happening. So it 
				is clear that if they are ET, and I will question some of 
				the sightings as to if they are ET, they are making their 
				presence known. I also think that the prevalence in the modern 
				era of so many events - the sightings, the continual mutilation 
				events, the so-called abduction events - that we are looking at 
				likely reversed engineered technology in the hands of humans 
				that are not under government control or any type of high level 
				control. I find that quite alarming.
				
				
				With regard to the technology itself, I work with folks who do 
				know what is in our technological data base and what is 
				available to modern armies. The so-called ET technology, 
				the ability to have silent engines and flying machines that make 
				no sound, flying machines that have the characteristics that are 
				consistent with reproduction of UFO sightings, are not in any 
				nations arsenal, but they do exist. So if there are 
				back engineered technologies existing, they are probably in 
				the hands of this group of individuals, formerly government, 
				formerly perhaps intelligence, formerly, under private sector 
				control with some sort of oversight by military or by 
				government. 
				 
				
				But this (oversight) is likely no 
				longer the case as a result of this access denied category that 
				is now operating. I call it a clandestine group. The 
				technology is not in our military arsenals anywhere in the 
				world, but it does exist, and to me that’s quite 
				disconcerting.
				
				
				I do work with a number of groups. We do know about some of the 
				things that the technologies are used for, and I want to assure 
				you that these technologies are not that far beyond our current 
				state of knowledge. Now understanding it scientifically, 
				understanding how it can be, is a long way from having a fully 
				developed usable technology. But if in our knowledge we can 
				understand how it has to be in order to create that technology, 
				we’re not that far away. So I want to assure you that we’re not 
				talking about technologies that are so farfetched that we can’t 
				understand them. They’re just beyond the technological 
				horizon.
				
				
				I want to tell you that it doesn’t appear we need to be using 
				ultra-dimensions and wormholes, etc., for this. It looks like 
				our three dimensional or four dimensional space-time universe is 
				about what it appears to be, and that we can operate within that 
				space-time universe with these types of technologies. 
				
				 
				
				We have 
				tended, like the ancients of old, to have invented myths about 
				too many dimensions and time travel, wormhole travel, etc., and 
				it doesn’t look like that’s necessary to explain what we’re 
				seeing."