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			Exclusive Interview with an Ex-Illuminati Programmer/Trainer 
			 
			
			Part 17 - In The Matrix  
			
			
			 
			 
			Q: Svali, can you tell me what sort of incredible powers and 
			abilities the brain is capable of, what you have seen and heard 
			while you were still part of the Illuminati? I'm sure a photographic 
			memory is only part of it?  
			 
			A: Research shows that we use only a part of the brain's 
			ability, and the Illuminati and other occult groups are well aware 
			of this. This is why a planned program of early stimulation and 
			training is purposely done, to encourage children to begin using 
			this normally "unused portion" of the brain.  
			 
			A photographic memory is developed in a trance state. A person under 
			hypnosis will have almost complete recall of events, and details 
			around them. The brain never loses anything, it is just that in 
			daily life, we filter out information to allow normal function, 
			otherwise our senses would be bombarded, and we would be constantly 
			distracted.  
			 
			Hypnotic induction can override this filter when the suggestion is 
			implanted. The person then "downloads" information and details to 
			the trainer. Other abilities that can be developed include: 
			
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				Learning foreign languages: 
				Children are taught three, four, or five and more languages 
				based on aptitude  
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				Physical strength: the child 
				can do more physically than a child his/her age normally could 
				 
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				Psychic ability: this is considered a valued asset, and is worked 
			on  
			 
			
			Children learn to pick up objects, using 
			telekenetic powers, and to 
			use their mind to "read people" (have information about the person 
			that they could not possibly know), travel through time, and/or 
			through spiritual dimensions, and even to be able to "psychically 
			kill" an animal (or human) without touching them. Out of body 
			travel, where the child can visit a room, describe what is there, 
			and details of conversations, is also done.  
			 
			The child will be taught to have above normal intelligence, usually 
			in the range of 120 (minimum) to above 200. IQs of 160 and above are 
			NOT uncommon in this group. The specific abilities developed will 
			depend upon the child (or adult's) role, or planned role in the 
			group.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: Svali, currently there is a popular TV series airing, called 
			The 
			Pretender. Now after you told me so much about the Illuminati this 
			show is starting to make a lot more sense to me. Perhaps this show 
			is even based on MK Ultra or Illuminati history.  
			 
			A: I have never watched this show, because the first two minutes 
			(the prequel) triggered me so badly several years ago, I had to get 
			up and leave the room. I later told my husband, "I can't believe 
			they are showing this openly on TV.'' Yes, it is directly based on 
			mind control programming, etc. and is a direct, blatant show. But in 
			our society, based on denial, this is considered "fiction", except 
			to those who have undergone this type of training.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: Could any of this mindcontrol technology be used for positive 
			purposes, enhancing mental powers, without actually losing control 
			over one's own mind? A few year ago there was a fad about so-called 
			mind machines, with flashing lights and sounds, which included VR 
			glasses and headphones. What do you know about those mind machines? 
			Do they work?  
			 
			A: I don't know of any mindcontrol technology that I believe is 
			good, sorry. Why? Even if it doesn't involve trauma (and most DOES), 
			if equipment like this were in the wrong hands, it would always be 
			used to subjugate and control others. Unfortunately, that is the 
			"Control" part of mind control: someone else is in charge, using the 
			other person. Most of the machines and VR stuff don't really work, 
			because in order for MC to work, the person has to be young to 
			develop those abilities, and also traumatized. This is a sad fact.
			 
			 
			Also, many if not most of the abilities developed are harmful and 
			destructive. The spiritual travel and time travel always exact a 
			price, and slowly will kill or destroy the person if engaged in too 
			often. I have seen 'Spiritual' in the Illuminati who did this, and 
			they had completely white hair by the age of 22! Most 'Spiritual' 
			grey early, because the physical and psychological destruction are 
			so great. Even the Illuminists are aware of this, and prevent too 
			much work in one area for this reason.  
			 
			The demonic behind it has caused some people (like 
			Crowly, for 
			example) to eventually end life insane. I can't recommend it for 
			anyone, it would be like playing with fire, or a dangerous weapon. 
			This is one reason I refuse to have anything to do with this type of 
			stuff. I renounced and closed all spiritual doors in my life years 
			ago, and can no longer "read" people, or do psychic travel, or speak 
			5 languages. I am so happy to NOT have these abilities now, since my 
			life belongs to Jesus, and that is ten times better. He is enhancing 
			my life in much better ways.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: Can you tell us a bit more about the psychic part, such as 
			telepathy, telekinesis, time travel, etc. What is each of those 
			abilities used for by the Illuminati?  
			 
			A: First, it's important to realize that when a person does time 
			travel, they are often in an altered state of consciousness. They 
			leave their body behind, and travel in the spiritual realm. People I 
			have been with who were travelling looked as if they were in a deep 
			trance state or coma: their breathing is slow, their skin pale and 
			cool, and their heartbeat is lowered. There was always a ritual or a 
			sacrifice first to open the portal. The first few times, a person 
			always takes someone else to guide them and teach them and help them 
			come back. It was always filled with anxiety, because if a person 
			got "lost" they might stay there and not come back to now.  
			 
			I also hated it, and I believe it is demonically driven and 
			forbidden by scripture, that is one reason I don't like remembering 
			it. It was almost always into the past, in fact, there was a barrier 
			up so a person couldn't go too far into the future (maybe a day or 
			so). I don't know why the barrier is there, I have no idea.  
			 
			But there is no barrier to going into the past, and people do it for 
			several reasons: to see history to ask wisdom from people in the 
			past/ advice/ help to teach others to demonstrate the unbroken 
			"gloriousness" of the group. I have seen rituals at ancient 
			Stonehenge (yes, it was used for that) from 1000 years ago doing 
			this, and visited the courts of the monarchies doing this. BUT I 
			also believe it is all deception, a falseness done by the demonic, 
			and that any information obtained by this method is absolutely not 
			reliable. A person could only travel for short periods, they weren't 
			allowed to do more, since it causes health and psychologocal 
			problems. This kind of stuff is very very destructive.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: Can it be used to influence people, ie. politicians, businessmen, 
			military leaders etc. and to put certain thoughts into their minds?
			 
			 
			A: Not that I saw. There is a limit to the influence of this 
			kind of stuff. Instead, these people get blackmailed or bribed, 
			which is much more effective. I believe that the ability of the 
			"psychic phenomena" is overrated at times, since people do have free 
			will, unless they are being in active control by the group.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: To what degree can they alter global consciousness and our 
			timeline by time/ astral travel in general and how many people would 
			be needed to do that?  
			 
			A: They don't try. Remember, God is in control of history, not 
			the Illuminati or any other group.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: Does the Illuminati have 'specialists' with this sort of ability 
			and are they used 'fulltime' to do this?  
			 
			A: They have people that do this more, called "Spiritual" (the 
			ones who specialize in spiritual, instead of Military, or Sciences, 
			or Scholarship). These people ALWAYS age before their time, and have 
			grey or white hair early. Even they have to limit their contact with 
			this, since it is so destructive.  
			 
			Some of this also comes under the heading "theta" programming, or 
			psychic programming. Remember in the movie The Matrix, the children 
			learning to bend spoons? That was pure theta being shown, and 
			horrified me to watch. Again, Hollywood goes above ground. These 
			abilities are used to teach "psychic killing" (I have seen animals 
			killed by people in a ring around it, concentrating on it, the 
			animal rose up and was strangled), and to supposedly do this to 
			humans, or to be able to eavesdrop on others.  
			 
			This is NOT a safe, new dimension that has been discovered. It is 
			demons influencing human beings and sharing their knowledge with 
			them. And it always ends up destroying those involved in it for very 
			long or very heavily. The demonic wants to destroy the human race, 
			since we are so beloved of God, and they hate Him and us, His 
			beloved creation.  
			 
			Things such as astral travel, time travel are addressed in the Bible 
			(it's called "spiritism", "witchcraft", etc.) and were forbidden for 
			a good reason: to protect us. I have heard of people who never came 
			back, died, or lost their minds after doing the things I mention, 
			and I would never, ever advocate exploring it, when life here on 
			earth is so full of good things to know about that aren't 
			destructive.  
			 
			I am so glad that I no longer have to witness these things or be 
			part of them, I have renounced ever being part of this in my own 
			life, and closed all doors to the demonic and its activity. I also 
			lost all of these abilities at the same time, and it is a huge 
			relief.  
			  
			
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