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			Exclusive Interview with an Ex-Illuminati Programmer/Trainer 
			
			 
			Part 7 - Illuminati Symbols and Clues; Level of Infiltration  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: 'Yes, tell me more about that (german connection, 
			masonic temple, 
			the 'institute' and the Baal statue in Canada, please [see previous 
			article]). What are some of the Illuminati trademarks, symbols and 
			clues that are placed throughout society as their signals (other 
			than the pyramid and all-seeing-eye of Horus), intentionally or 
			unintentionally. Does the Illuminati get careless?  
			 
			A: To completely answer these questions, you would need my whole 
			biography. I had thought once about writing it, but I doubt many 
			would read it (seriously, this isn't false modesty) and also I 
			really don't believe people will do anything about the Illuminati 
			even if they know. Sorry for the cynicism, but it is based on a 
			lifetime of experience.  
			 
			The Illuminists don't care who prints this stuff, or if they are 
			"exposed" because they are counting on the majority not believing 
			it, having done a pretty good job with a media blitz campaign (seen 
			any articles in Newsweek or Time lately that addresses this other 
			than as a laughable conspiracy theory? Guess who owns Time-Warner?).
			 
			 
			I have heard them laughing about this very thing in leadership 
			meetings five years ago, and I doubt their attitude has changed much 
			since then. If people DID believe this, if action were able to be 
			taken, then I would be very surprised and quite happy.  
			 
			I'll give you an example. Two years ago, I tried to find a publisher 
			for my book on how the Illuminati program people. I wanted it 
			available for therapists who work with survivors. I couldn't find 
			anyone willing to consider it; they told me it was much too 
			controversial, and "there is no market for this among the general 
			public". Sad, but true.  
			 
			At the same time, I do believe that God is in control of world 
			history. I have exposed them, and self published my book for free on 
			the web, to let those who work with survivors realize what they have 
			been through. It's hard to help people leaving a group without 
			understanding the traumas both emotional and physical that they have 
			endured.  
			 
			Okay, now to your questions. 
			
				
				1. The Bruderheist is 
				the ruling council of Germany. It meets in the 
			black forest region, which is considered the center of the earth, 
			and a vortex for psychical/spiritual energy. They are some of the 
			most vicious people I have ever known in my life, and make the Nazis 
			(who they encouraged) look like fun people. They are still there, 
			manipulating people, running banks, and channeling their dirty money 
			to Brussels, Switzerland, and Cairo, Egypt.  
				 2. Canada has a very large Illuminati and 
				Templar Knight community 
			(they are hand in glove groups) that worship ancient deities. The 
			gold or bronze statue of Baal is in a holy grove on a large private 
			estate between Quebec and Montreal. Since I was only 12 years old 
			when I went there, the details aren't quite as clear. But the 
			ceremonies there were full of people in white gowns, lots of flowers 
			and fruits and votive offerings, singing, then the final sacrifice 
			in the arms of the statue. 
  3. Illuminati trademarks: these are the most cautionary people on 
			earth. They try to leave absolutely NO tracks. Most of the symbology 
			can be seen on T.V. or movies, and include: the concept of a 
			military government ruling. These people are very, very 
			militaristic.  
				
					
					The Phoenix: this is one of their highest military and spiritual 
			symbols. If you see a German eagle, too, this is a huge sign. 
			Certain companies will use a phoenix as their logo, especially red 
			on black, or the reverse, this is a huge sign, since the Illuminati 
			use many resuscitation rituals in their training, where the person 
			is brought into a death, or near death state, then "resuscitated" 
			and told that Baal, or some other entity, "gave them life" and they 
			owe their new life to him and the group. Thus, the phoenix is a huge 
			trigger and symbol. 
  Butterflies and rainbow signs are big triggers for people who have 
			gone through the Monarch programming (yes, the Illuminists invented 
			Monarch programming with the CIA). Certain types of jewelry are used 
			as triggers. If a person goes online, and plays certain role games 
			(like Ultima) the games are FULL of trigger symbols, such as gem 
			stones. I don't play them but my husband does, and I have told him 
			what the symbols mean. He thinks it's funny since they don't bother 
			him (he isn't Illuminati). 
  A tiara, or crown with 13 gems, with a diamond in the center, is a 
			symbol of the coming reign of the "chosen one".  
					 Star of David: believe it or not, one of the highest Illuminati 
			religious symbols is a star of David with a circle around it. Called 
			"the great seal of Solomon" it is used at the highest ceremonies to 
			invoke the demonic. 
  Earth, water, and fire: these three are used in a lot of ceremonies. 
			Check out how many Saturday a.m. cartoons use this concept. You'd be 
			amazed. In fact, "The Fifth Element" movie was based on it.
					
  Greek and Roman mythology and symbols: The 
					Illuminati use a 
			tremendous amount of Greek and Roman mythology in their programming, 
			and most people will have internal structures with a roman or greek 
			temple inside. Lightening bolts, and any symbols from this time will 
			also trigger those with this inside. For more, just pick up any 
			recent Time magazine. Most of the ads are filled with Illuminati 
			symbology. A picture of a head with a computer inside is another big 
			one, symbolizes delta programming, for example. 
				 
			 
			
			  
			  
			
				
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					Bush is flashing 
					the Horned Owl symbol with his right hand, it is Satanic. 
					Take note of the look on his face too.  | 
				 
			 
			
			Q: Take the lead and tell me about issues you may not have covered 
			in your articles or in this interview.... perhaps some issues I have 
			missed in regards to the 
			
			New World Order
			/ global government and 
			such...  
			 
			A:  
			
				
				1. These people are pedophiliacs, they abuse and torture small 
			children and teach them under duress to become perpetrators 
			themselves from earliest infancy. This alone means they should be 
			stopped. 
  They run the porn industry, along with other groups such as 
				the 
			Mafia. They make enormous amounts of money from drug smuggling, gun 
			running, and human slavery (oh, yes, the buying and selling of human 
			beings is alive and well in the 21st century). 
  They are involved in evil and money making in the extreme. If a 
			profit is being made off of human suffering, you can trace the chain 
			back somewhere to these people. 
  2. They have money and lawyers that could blast anyone confronting 
			them out of the water. 
  3. They have infiltrated our government, and the governments of 
			every country in the world, and well as the judicial and legal 
			systems. 
  4. The media as well. 
  5. They run our financial institutions.
				
  6. They are ruthless, ambitious, and will not stop at killing those 
			they oppose. They invented MK-Ultra with the help of the 
				CIA. Still 
			want to take them on? Sorry, just letting you know what they are 
			like. 
  7. They are working towards bringing in a new leader, who will usher 
			in a Luciferian reign of joy, prosperity, and rewards to the 
			faithful. Almost an Elyssian type paradise. Of course, the brutality 
			would continue, and those who oppose his reign are to be hunted down 
			and converted or destroyed, but the followers will be so happy and 
			content that they believe these holdouts will want to come over to 
			their side. Sounds unbelievable, but true.  
			 
			
			Also, people will have new jobs, and leadership positions in this 
			new order, since the Illuminati believe that their children are the 
			brightest and best (remember that lifetime of training and 
			teaching?) and will be the intellectual elite who will rule over the 
			unintelligent, or "less fit". These people really, truly believe 
			this, and almost worship Plato's ideal Republic as their blue print 
			for the new order.  
			 
			Now, the other side of the picture. 
			
				
				1. They are arrogant, and this could be their downfall. They view 
			the common man as "sheep" with no intelligence. They are full of 
			pride, believe they are invulnerable (see above) and that any press 
			about them is the equivalent of a gnat to be swatted. Arrogant 
			people make mistakes, and they are becoming more blatant and open in 
			recent years. 
  2. They believe they can overcome God, which is a huge mistake. God 
			can stay the hand of history, and has so far, in the hope that more 
			from this group will get out, because He is merciful. 
  3. Most of them are wounded, abused victims, who don't realize that 
			it is possible to leave the group. There is a lot of discontent in 
			the ranks, and there would be a mass exodus if the members believed 
			it were really possible to get out (and live). Many of the trainers 
			I knew (I know, wicked, torturing pedophiles) were NOT happy with 
			what they did. They would whisper quietly, or give a look, to show 
			that they disagreed with what they had to do. They would resignedly 
			do their jobs, in the hope of advancement. 
  Know what one of the biggest carrots offered to those who advance up 
			in the group is? That you don't have to hurt people anymore, and 
			that you can't be abused (it's true: only those higher than you in 
			the group can abuse you, so everyone wants to move up, where the 
			pool of candidates becomes smaller). Of course, people can choose to 
			abuse anyone beneath them, and that motivates some (but not all!) to 
			move up. 
  4. As more survivors leave, therapists and churches and support 
			people are becoming more aware of the sophisticated mind control 
			techniques used to control members. They are learning to undo it.
				
  
				 5. Prayer can overcome the greatest evil, and my greatest hope is 
			that those I once knew in this group, including the heads and those 
			who hurt me at times, would get out. That they could know that, yes, 
			it is truly possible to leave. 
			 
			
			  
			Q: I have seen Clinton do this hand sign on a few occasion, and now 
			Prince William as well. Any hidden meaning?  
			 
			A: That is an old, well known greeting of one satanist to another. 
			Usually, the Illuminists are a lot more subtle and don't do that 
			publicly.
			 
			  
			
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