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			Exclusive Interview with an Ex-Illuminati Programmer/Trainer 
			
			 
			Part 4: The Illuminati - Freemason Connection 
			
			 
			 
			Q: Svali, one of the more important points, which I am sure a lot of 
			readers would like to know more about, is, what is the Illuminati 
			/Freemason connection, as far as you are aware of, given your 
			previous position in the Illuminati?  
			 
			Was - and is - there an infiltration of the Masonic Order?  
			
			 
			A: The Freemasons and the Illuminati
			are hand in glove. I don't care 
			if this steps on any toes, it's a fact. The masonic temple at 
			Alexandria, Virginia (the city itself was named after Alexandria, 
			Egypt, and is a hotbed of Illuminati activity) is a center in the 
			Washington, DC area for Illuminati scholarship and teaching. I was 
			taken there at intervals for testing, to step up a level, for 
			scholarship, and high ceremonies. The leaders in this masonic group 
			were also Illuminists.  
			 
			This has been true of every large city I have lived in. The top 
			Freemasons were also top Illuminists. My maternal grandparents were 
			both high ranking Masons in the city of Pittsburgh, Pa. (president 
			of the Eastern Star and 33rd degree Mason) and they both were also 
			leaders in the Illuminati in that area.  
			 
			Are all Masons Illuminati? No, especially at the lower levels, I 
			believe they know nothing of the practices that occur in the middle 
			of the night in the larger temples. Many are probably fine 
			businessmen and Christians. But I have never known a 32 degree or 
			above who wasn't Illuminati, and the group helped create Freemasonry 
			as a "front" for their activities.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: What exactly is the meaning of the pyramid on the back of the $1 
			U.S. note? I'm talking about the pyramid with the capstone detached 
			and hovering above the rest of the pyramid, containing the 
			'All-Seeing-Eye'. Is this a Masonic or Illuminati symbol?  
			
			 
			A: The pyramid and the "eye of Horus" on the back of the dollar bill 
			are Illuminati symbology. The pyramid is an ancient form based on 
			the holyness of the number 3 to the ancient mystery religions (it, 
			not 6, is considered the most spiritual number), and a pyramid was a 
			structure used specifically to call up the demonic, or occult, a 
			point of psychic activity.  
			 
			The eye is the all seeing eye of Horus (remember the emphasis on 
			Egyptian magical religious practices? The book of the undead, etc.?) 
			and the fact that no one can escape his magical reach. This eye is 
			considered a demonic eye in the group, or the eye of the deity, and 
			in Illuminati mythology is either open or closed, depending upon the 
			spiritual time of year and the state of the person psychically. 
			Young children are given "psychic surgery" where the eye is placed 
			inside, and they are told that Horus will snatch their soul if they 
			ever try to leave, or if they tell, or that the eye will explode. 
			The symbol on the dollar is reinforcement for every Illuminati child 
			who sees one, and the reminder that they are being watched.  
			 
			The saying on the dollar, 'Novus Ordo Seclorum' also means "bringing 
			in the new order", which is the Illuminati stated agenda. Just 
			think, in the early 1800's, our forefathers already were looking 
			forward to when the new order would be ushered in. Have I mentioned 
			that this is a patient, forward looking group of intellectuals? That 
			Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, FDR, and others were Illuminati 
			leaders? Our country may have been founded on freedom from taxation, 
			but it was also founded on the 
			
			New World Order just as surely.  
			  
			
			
			 
			Q: How far back in time does the concept / cult of the Illuminati 
			go? It seems to me that they have been around quite some time, 
			possibly since antiquity, guiding, steering and using humanity for 
			their own purposes, operating under different names? Can you 
			elaborate?  
			 
			A: I was taught that the Illuminati had its roots in the ancient 
			practices that reach into the beginning of recorded time; that the 
			Babylonians on the plains created ziggurats to their deities, whom 
			the Illuminati worship. They were proud of the fact that it was 
			supposedly an unbroken occult line from then until now. The names 
			changed, the basic group was the same.  
			 
			The ancient mystery religions of Egypt, heart of dark magic were 
			another forerunner, with adherents of Set, Osiris, 
			Horus and Ra; and 
			the Illuminists also believe their bloodlines have come down from 
			the ancient kings of Egypt.  
			 
			It's hard for me to know how much was cult propaganda, and how much 
			truth is in the claims. The Templar Knights were definitely a 
			forerunner during medieval times, as well as the Rosicrucians and 
			ancient celts and druids (you know, the ones who built Stonehenge).
			 
			  
			
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