DOUG: Also in your time.... today most of us travel by
car, individual automobiles. (Mutual laughter) How do you travel
in your time?
VAJRA: I took my children to the museum and they had a
very well preserved ’shopping place’... it was called a "Mall"....
--A humorous name!-- (Laughs) Like being chewed by an animal!---
and my children get great fun from driving these combustion
engine vehicles. We have them still preserved in certain places.
They are only allowed in very limited areas simply because of
the filth, violence and the great noise that they produce.
We primarily use the trans-disks which are a form of magnetic
that creates a field around us. They are circular and they have
a brace that comes up around the hips with a belt that goes
around the center and these disks create an electromagnetic
energy field, an antigravity field if you will, that allows us
to travel at great speeds across the surface of the planet with
no harm to the earth and to harm to ourselves.
There are however also the IDAPs, Inter
Dimensional Access Portals, which are called the
doorways or ’Boom Tubes’. These are antigravity engines,
and these engines, using an antimatter process, can actually
create a rift if you will, a doorway which can take you anywhere
on the planet you want to go.
There was experimentation that was originally done with the
concept of teleportation, actually introduced for cargo in
latter half of your century, but we abandoned those concepts
primarily because they meant breaking down the structure of the
human body and then transmitting the structure from place to
place and then having to actually reassemble that actual
physical body into the original pattern and energy matrix which
we found too violent to the spirit in the body.
And so with the antimatter engines that we have developed,
allowed us to be able to create a time-space warp so that all we
are doing is bringing one area of time-space to another so we
would simply walk through the door and be at the location that
we were required to be.
Now we still have the disks. We still have travel back and forth
which is primarily done through electro-magnetics and through
the antimatter/antigravity drives that brings supplies and
travel back and forth between here and the Moon. We have not yet
been allowed to journey to Mars as their are still
beings there who have not yet allowed us to expand to that
planet but we hope that within the next 20 years, that we will
begin to create rather large colonies there on Mars
once we have proven the fact that we have evolved to the point
where we are beyond our violence and we are beyond our
inconsideration and our death wish for ourselves and for others.
So we have the IDAPs, we have the trans-disks,
those are the primary means. We still use horses, they are a
great joy and great fun to keep. We still use a large number of
carts, these are much for enjoyment, but also much for easy
transport. We still have bicycles which we use, but the
trans-disks primarily and the hov-car for taking the family to
places, and there are so many of them, we use the hov-cars which
have basically the trans-disks underneath the bottom of them
which also allow us to then sit in a carriage and so we don’t
need the same type of roads and asphalt. We travel above the
earth and on the electromagnetic lines of the planet which allow
us to go where we wish to go without any harm to ourselves to
others or harm to the planet. This was a technology that was
pioneered some time ago and there was a trade, or a trade off if
you will, between ourselves and the Sky People,
which may be announced soon. But this technology was handed
down, or taken by force in some cases.
DOUG: Do you remember when the trans-disks
VAJRA: They began before my life time and so they were, I
would say, well they were about 15 years after the change. They
came about in 15 AI or so. But many of these things were
technologies that were left over from the great war. After the
great war there were amazing technological developments that
came about after that conflict. There were things that, from
reading in grandfather’s journals were amazing. There were
technological advancements that had been hidden from the people
for so many years that came out in remarkable ways and I, that
conflict, that last great war of humanity, though it caused
great death and great destruction, was also in many ways
responsible for providing us with many massive technological
advances which make much of what we do today possible.
DOUG: Can you tell us a little bit about the war?
When it started, how it started, who was involved?
VAJRA: We can't go back and talk about Architecture can
VAJRA: (A pause, a deep breath and a heavy sigh.) There
were actually a number of wars, but from our perspective it
looks like one, long 27 year conflict. Just as your entire dark
20th Century looks to us like one long war from 1914 AD on, with
the various sides only stopping long enough to catch their
breath and rearm!
There were great forces that were allied against each other,
primarily China and the Jihads, or at that time what were called
the Islamic Jihad although there were a number of
factions, and I know the great overview of this because even
though so many of the records were lost, I remember the
beginning of the war started when many people began to be
murdered in India and Israel,
and it had to do with - and we still even have this in our
history - the great battle that took place when Pakistan
attacked India with troops and limited nuclear
This was the beginning of the last great conflict. And this
conflict did not occur all at once. It spanned nearly 27 of your
old standard years. It lasted from .... 6 years.... from your
dating.... 1998, when the rumblings and skirmishes started,
until 2025 to 2027, when the smaller battles were winding
down..... it was in that period of time, 2027, when the last
great meteor struck, and I am not sure if the meteor was
somehow artificially aimed at the planet
or whether or not the meteor struck from natural causes. That
was what put an end to all the insanity. At that point we all
had to work with each other just so mankind as a species would
survive. That time, beginning in 2025, was probably the lowest
spiritual point for humanity in all history.
That great meteor tilting the Earth and knocking it off its
rotating axis for a period of time was what was responsible for
the last great inundation of the northern areas of what was
Africa, of the above land areas of what was Europe and much of
Russia. Many of those waters, however, did subside and there are
large sections now that are underwater but many large sections
that have risen above water after that. The Earth will always be
2/3rds water, 1/3 land, just as is the human body, so
some masses rose as others sank.
The great wars began primarily as a final conflict
between China, between the Islamic Jihad,
and between what was then called Europe, The
United States and Russia.
There was great hope at first as what were called the Communist
regimes of first Russia and then China collapsed. North and
South Korea reunited, and it seemed that perhaps an age of peace
would ensue. But China becoming 'Free' made her even more
dangerous, and soon she wanted all the comforts, technology and
resources of the west. The tragedy was that you in America built
her industries, her technology, her entire economy, which was
all being converted for the purpose of war against you! The
government knew it. The people knew it, but you, as we say, "you
sold them the rocks with which you were stoned!" From our
perspective it was the insanity of greed from all sides
that nearly destroyed your world. That is why that thinking is
so vile and repugnant to us now.
Our country, the NAU or the Turtle Island,
was not involved in many of the conflicts. We pride ourselves
that there were only two or three great battles that were fought
around the turn of the great age that resulted in our defeat.
And from that point on, there was much civil war that was
happening here in the NAU and because of the
Civil Wars and the breakup of the political system
here into the current 13 Sovereign Nation/States... this
is much of what caused our Nations and Countries to refrain from
being involved in this conflict.
This sadly, however, in some ways made things worse. We fought
the final war against China, after they had taken
Taiwan, Viet Nam, Japan, all of South East Asia and Australia.
Their confederation became popularly known as The Kings of
the East, or The Great Dragon. They invaded
America last, coming across the Bering Strait over Alaska, down
into the Pacific Northwest, through what is now called Eden,
with an Army of 200 million! Not since the days of the
Mongols had such an army been seen! Only about half that
number actually reached our shore. But no matter how many we
killed, they just kept coming!
They were like ants, or a swarm of angry bees! And they
were more savage and brutal than anything that had ever been
seen. They killed everything in their path. No one was spared.
They were finally stopped by our wonder weapons, (which had
killed half their number along the way), and by direct
intervention by what were thought to be the Sky People
(although that is still a mystery), and the final battle was
fought in what was called Denver, Colorado,
but which we now call "The Plateau Of Judgement".
To this day, China is still a wasteland and cannot
be inhabited for another 100 years. Almost a billion people
translated in the blink of an eye. (Tears are streaming down his
cheeks.) So much horror. So much pain.
The conflict began, as I said, with the attack of Pakistan
against India. And there was 'The Nameless
One' who was the one responsible for most of the great
destruction and great terror that began in the Middle East
that was then strewn across the planet and the final invasion
and destruction of Jerusalem in, I believe, 2006.
He and the Chinese Horde were the last great evils.
DOUG: Is he the one.... your grandfather has talked to us
before about, the one that is called
Antichrist. Would this be the same person?
VAJRA: Om. Jamal. Which is truly the sickest of
jokes, because his name meant 'The Beautiful One'.
DOUG: Okay. So the United States doesn't get too involved
until much later in the Great War?
VAJRA: The old United States are involved early on, and
because of great defeats that are suffered, military defeats,
the United States here are no longer involved.
That is why our countries survived much of the destruction. We
withdrew much of our military might and used it to protect and
defend our countries and our shores.
However, please remember that we were not much involved at first
because many of the independent countries here were beginning to
break away, and as those countries broke away, leading to the
political system and structure that we have now, they were not
interested in becoming involved in the great
wars with the Jihads and with China and
We had great military force and might but with the destruction
of the computer data bases and the financial system of the old
New York by the pulse of a near miss of a nuclear
missile, and later by flood, and the destruction of what was
then the Capitol of Washington D.C., by an
unusual biologic weapon. I think the conclusion was that the
weapon was something called Red Mercury, as it was
atomic, but also with biologic effects. Like a very dirty
radioactive bomb ... but I do not understand such things.
When the two cities were both destroyed at approximately at, and
then, a few years after the Great Age turning (1999 to 2006)
, none of the other countries (the States) would come to their
aid. There was only minor retaliation, due to great confusion as
to who the perpetrators actually were, so revenge was difficult.
There was, in fact, at that time, and this confuses me, great
celebration of the rest of the countries when those two cities
were eventually destroyed because of the Civil conflict that was
fought against those two cities. New York financially and
Washington DC politically, were the two heads of the
Great Evil that oppressed the Countries.
DOUG: There has been a lot of talk about the New
World Order. I have a question here - that may ring a
bell with you. The New World Order - does it
succeed in taking over the United States in our near future?
VAJRA: God's Grace if I do not understand the question.
What can this be? There is so little from this time. There is so
little information that is from here. If I understand correctly,
that is what causes the Great War. That is what
causes the great Civil Wars. There are attacks
against the people. There are specifically attacks against the
food that supplies many of the great cities. There are whole
areas that are purposely starved to death, by this power, this
force, this evil that you speak of.
So my answer to that would be.... is that.... No. It does not
take over the Great Land. There is revolt.
There is blood. There is a story that my grandmother had told me
of my grandfather. In these wars, that because this Federal
Force that was attacking the countries (the States),
that there were not enough men for them to oppress all of
the Great Land (USA) and so there were factories where
human beings were being manufactured, and this became a great
conflict with these individuals who were grown in tanks.
The Men In Black, or Men OF Black,
as they came to be called. They were cold and huge and heartless
and they had no souls in them, with lifeless golden yellow
eyes. This was a side effect of drugs that were fed directly
into the brain that gave them superhuman strength and made them
obedient to their master's commands. There were no colors that
came from them; no aura that came from these beings. So there
truly WAS a blackness that radiated from them. So those of a
higher spiritual nature found them easier to spot, and
grandfather was part of a large group of people that at one
point had to comb the countryside to find these... creatures...
and kill them.
These were the clones. Genetically engineered
creatures that suddenly came from the vats and tanks of the
dark Federal Force, this New World Order
as you call it, to take over and control and destroy much of
the Great Land and this was the oppression which was
placed on the people. They had to hunt like animals; these
vicious savage killers who after even the great evil force was
destroyed they lived in caves, they lived in forests, they
caused great terror, great chaos all across the planet.
There was a mass attempt at confiscation of arms before
the Great War occurred where many were left helpless
before the Men Of Black, and many starved to death
in the great cities because they had no way of defending
themselves and no access to food. From what I read in
grandfather's journals and from grandmother's stories there was
a great disarming that occurred, which was a terrific tragedy
because many who would not have died because of it. Virtually
all the major cities were placed under marshal law right
after this happened, but soon after the Federal Force
This is what was responsible for the breakup of these forces:
There was a huge rising up of all of the people here that fought
for their freedom and they found that after the initial battles
that when they began to understand that the
power existed within them, that the mind was the
builder, that they could take responsibility for their
existence, many of these forces fell away like straw in a
They were eventually defeated but it was only through each one
of the independent countries and nation states rising up and
also through the massive natural catastrophes, the earthquakes,
floods and the chaos that much of the force of the evil was
broken, so even though this is a time of great death and grand
madness, it is also a time of great rebuilding and grand
freedom, because the community that I live in now .... owes its
very existence to this period. To the concepts and to the ideas
and to the strength and the courage and the bravery of this time
DOUG: What can we do as individuals to protect ourselves
from the earth changes and the violence and everything you are
telling us about?
VAJRA: Physically, for your time, or any time, it is only
knowledge and family that will be of
any value. Also, for your time, be well armed and well fed.
Food supplies and weapons are most important. A famous saying of
grandfather's was "A dog with no teeth gets kicked all day."
This seems radical for me to say from our time of relative
peace, but it comes from my love and compassion for ALL of you,
after having viewed your... our... brutal history and knowing
what is to come by looking back.
Spiritually, each and every day, at the striking of 2:00 PM when
the forces of the sun are at their zenith and the positive
powers of the Earth are at their greatest height, we practice
here the meditation of the violet fire in which we
ignite this fire within ourselves and we take on and absorb upon
ourselves the pain of the planet. Each and every day our
influence grows greater through the 11 soul gems that I share
with the 10 other communities.
Our influence grows each day because by doing this exercise, by
getting my entire family and our community together, and we do
not have to be physically together to do this, but each day at
2:00 PM we lay down our work for a moment and sit and meditate
for a few moments where we appreciate the earth, we appreciate
that which we have been given. We appreciate the
Grandfather in the sky (the Sun),
the Grandmother beneath us (the Earth),
the Great Mystery and all that which we do not
We absorb in and unto ourselves all of the negativity, all of
the pain that the planet still suffers, and give away all which
we feel is good about ourselves. This brings to us the
humbleness and humility that we require by giving away that
which we find valuable about ourselves to others.
We feel that at some point soon we will bring all of mankind and
humanity back into the proper path, back into the wave of that
balance, gently treading upon all of which we hold dear, upon
We sit with our children and they are our greatest teachers. My
children are much wiser than I am. They truly do not have the 'Veil'.
I myself still have so much pain within me. I myself am far from
achieving that perfection which I see the children beginning to
achieve now. They are all so gentle and so connected to
the Creation that I can understand now by looking at
them what the Immanuella was when She came at
first, how Her legendary reign came over all the
independent countries and city states.
Even though where I live is now considered the capital of this
planet, that is an old term. There is no one central place. All
things are connected together and though the Immanuella
rules from that much larger Island which was at one point called
Erin, or Ireland, she visits us all
in our hearts. She gives so much, being the ultimate conduit for
the Love of the Creation with Her 'Veil'
open all the time. She was responsible for healing so many
thousands of those who were burned and those who were horribly
DOUG: Okay. You've mentioned a couple times the Sky
People. We want to know who the sky people are.
VAJRA: There are some who have continued contact with
them. They watch more than anything. They have given us certain
advances, they have given us certain advantages. I for one still
have some trouble trusting some of them. They come from many
places. We have ambassadorships now where many of our people
have gone to their planets, but they come from many places.
Not only in our universe but we have also learned that there are
also benevolent as well as malevolent
beings on our own planet who come from other time spaces as well
as those who come from other dimensional realities.
There is trade for example with beings from Alcyone
(which grandfather was instrumental in), from Taygeta
the Pleiades) and from
There was a return for a very brief period of a very large race
of beings from the Osirus, or as it is also called
Orion, constellation. There are ambassadors from
our planet that are now on
Sirius A or planets in the Sirius A system.
We have found that there is a black hole with what
appears to be a terraform around the black hole, which I found
very interesting and had a chance to study. But this black
hole, which exists between Sirius A and B is the capital for
a great race and civilization that was responsible for much of
what is heard in
ancient Egypt and is
responsible for much of what occurred in the reign of a Pharaoh
who was one of their beings named Akhnaton. So
they have taught us much about our own past, but we are still
not to the point of where we have a full membership in this
Consortium. They are still watching us.
They tell us that another 400 years from now, that a full
exchange will take place between our peoples and their peoples
and that 1000 years from now, or should I say 900 years from my
era, there will come a complete accounting where we will be
invited into this Consortium, but now, even now,
we are still very violent in some aspects; we are still much too
immature in so many ways. But the thing that I need stressed is
that our history has made us strong, curious, independent and
vital. For as violent and vicious as it is, it has given us a
strength of will unmatched in the cosmos. Many of them fear us
and want us crushed, because they know how powerful we will one
day become. "Harsh childhoods, make for the most interesting
adults," as grandmother used to say.
I have stated many times in counsel that it is for us to grow
up, that it is for us to take the responsibility on ourselves.
Many have said "Why do we not take the help that is offered? Why
do we not come in more contact and take more from them?" And it
is my opinion that we must be unique in our evolution. We
will some day stand shoulder to shoulder and side by side with
these beings and these creatures. This planet, I have no doubt,
will become the galactic center of a great, grand
glorious country, an empire which will span this solar system
and much of this higher section of the galaxy! But we must
get there on our own. It is not for us to rely
on these people like helpless children upon parents. They may be
parent-like in some respects ..... but we are grown up now. It
is for us to evolve, it is for us to continue, and I am of the
opinion (and this is not a popular opinion in many
Councils but it is my opinion) and since I have been
given some authority here, that we are to continue to grow
without this outside influence.
They have given us knowledge which I appreciate. They have given
us an understanding of much of our past. They have given us some
records of this time period - not many, but at least enough to
know about where the evolution of where we have come from has
been, so that we may know where, in fact, we are going.
DOUG: Are you aware of, in year 1998 during the
earthquakes and earth changes, are you aware of a great number
of people being taken aboard or transported by some of these
sky people on spaceships?
VAJRA: There is a period where, as I have stated, there
are elders who open the doors to sideways realities and save
many. They, or should I say, I have had this history described
to me. Using their magic they open these doorways to other
realities where groups of people wait. There are some - almost
before the end of the war - who were saved on the ships. There
was no special blessing that was given. They were taken up
because they were supposed to survive. Many of these who were
supposed to survive were those who carried with them the genetic
seed for the continuing of the race. These were the groups that
began to evolve into the 12 chakra energy system, who
began to develop the 47th and 48th chromosomal pairs. And so
they had to be saved as the genetic blueprints for much of
humanity. And so there were certain of the Sky People
who came who did rescue a certain number of these people. It is
legend. Many speak of it. It is not something that is part of
our mass history but many were saved and many were taken care of
and fed and nurtured during those dark times when the
Mother had no course, and there was no time. So Om to
DOUG: Thank you. Let's go back to your time and talk a
little bit more about what your life is like. What do you use
for exchanging for goods? We use money, or cash. Do you still
VAJRA: Om. Simply from an aspect of a term of exchange
because we do not have to pay for energy, because we do not have
to pay for certain aspects of where we live or how we live. Much
of what we do, and there is much hard work, is done in the
actual growing of food, but that is more of a joy, more of a
delight. It is for us our highest science. As I said, I am but a
humble Architect. I am not one of the Sacred Keepers
of the land, one of the growers of the food, but I do enjoy
We have a tetrahedronic structure outside of our
home where we grow many fine fruits and vegetables. But we work
for a few hours every day at something that we enjoy and in
exchange for that we have a Center which, if we have
necessities, if there are certain things that we need or
require, we will work for a period doing something that we
enjoy. One of my sons is a very talented musician and he gets to
practice his music for people for a number of hours every day.
We usually work four hours or so every day doing something that
we are talented at or something that we enjoy, and many of our
professions are also chosen for us at birth. We use a very
advanced form of Astrology and because we are able
to see the colors and see the auras and see the essence which
come from our children, and because the children themselves have
less of the 'Veil' than we as the older people do, they
also know but have more of a connection with, why they are here
and the things that they must do.
When I do travel to other places and locations, we do use a form
of money that is a type of gold but it has been refined into
what looks like a transparent substance and they are in the
shape of small pyramids that retain information much as the
Crys-Disks do. Or should I say the Crys-Disks,
which then interact with the Crys- Spheres - they are
smaller forms of that which have the information of the value of
each one of these that is encoded into them so they are small
and pyramid-shaped but they are gold, which is processed into a
very highly superconductive form which renders it clear or
transparent. Very much like glass beads.
DOUG: Interesting. I have a very specific question here.
VAJRA: We find that because the term 'money' is a form of
energy and because that energy flows to us and then flows out
from us and that becomes a physical manifestation of that
energy, that the shape and pattern of the money becomes very
important and that is one of the reasons why we usually use
sacks or pouches, and why the money is tooled into these shapes.
When it is actually close to us, when it is in our possession,
it creates a certain energy around us, and so this has helped us
to grow beyond the obsession and the greed and the hoarding of
this energy in and unto us that led to so much of the madness
and the chaos in the old age. This absorbing of energy for
energy's sake. We understand that those who work hard will be
rewarded for what it is they do. But those rewards are much more
spiritual than they are in the physical manifestation of what
they have. We still work very hard here to grow what it is we
grow because we meditate and because so much of bringing the
food up out of the ground has to do with our own spirit.
We spray the plants with special minerals, and use Crys
Spheres that play music to the plants and this music helps
them grow extraordinarily large. In the area where we are we
grow much of the food; probably 60% of the fruits and vegetables
that go all across the planet. So we have a very intense
responsibility here to be in tune and in touch with the land and
with the Earth because we have the sacred trust of growing so
much of the food and we feel that by infusing our spirit and our
essence into that which comes from the Earth, that by sending
that food in trade, to the Tech Societies, whether they
are underwater in the Pacific or whether they are in space, or
on the Moon, we feel that we impart our
consciousness through that which we give to them. Understanding?
DOUG: Yes. Yes. Thank you. So it's a lot, a lot more than
just the money, its an exchange of energy.
DOUG: Okay. Talking about food, what types of foods do
you grow and eat, in your time?
VAJRA: Well, I would assume they would be the same as
here. They are corn and wheat and grains..... We have some crops
here that are unusual. We have a form of peach that was brought
to us by one of the Sky People that grows about this big, and
because we spend so much time with the spiritual nurturing of
the food as well, we find that we only require usually one meal
a day as sustenance because of the energy that comes from the
food that is within us.
There is what we call Nec-Dar, which is a paste that is
made from very many vitamins and minerals, and the Nec-Dar
is a .... doesn't really have a taste to it as such. It can be
blended with very, very small pieces of another food and it will
take on the taste or flavor of that food and so we use this as
much more of a substance in a diet that is primarily all fruits,
vegetables and grains. We are very strict vegetarians, although
we do still drink some milk and eat cheese as this causes no
harm. We do have some cows for milk and the children to play
with, and some goats here and we sometimes drink the milk from
them. The Nec-dar is a ... its a substance that can be
placed in any type of food and it is being now shipped into
other areas of the planet where it is very difficult to grow
food where people are living, so that they ..... it is very
difficult to explain.... it is one of those normal things in
life that one tries to explain but cannot.
VAJRA: For those who are hungry who maybe will have one
piece of corn, this substance can be mixed in with that and make
it all taste like the corn. And then be eaten and ingested and
still be as nutritious.
DOUG: Yeah that makes sense. So you don't have a problem
with a shortage of food.
VAJRA: Nay.... there are areas where food is still a
problem. There are areas where it is still in very short supply
in certain locations. Those would be many of the wasteland areas
and these are still areas where human beings are very savage
and very brutal and there are a few that go to these places but
they have chosen to be this way and all we can do is pray for
them and hope that some day they will see the error of their
Even the Immanuella herself has visited many of these
areas and locations and has not been able to turn them, so they
still hunt and scavenge at many of the places. As I explained,
it is not as if the entire planet is a Utopia. There are
many different beings still who are at many different areas of
We still have in many locations, although it is not as much
here, many types of crime and we still have many brutal
punishments for crime, across the Earth, such as stoning and
public flogging. So the location that I speak of, where I live,
I live in a somewhat unique community..... I would not say
"unique," there are many who worship and live and believe the
way we do here, but there are many who do not. I would say that
of the population today, that there would be a percentage of 20,
maybe as high as, I would not say as high as 30, but I would say
20% or so who are still living very bleak existences.
DOUG: Do you still have sickness and disease of the
VAJRA: In the wasteland areas, yes. But it is only
because those people who are still in that state - in that
consciousness - will not raise their consciousness to
the point of where they would accept our help or where they
would accept our healing or where they would even accept the
grace of the Immanuella in that case.
DOUG: What types of healing is practiced in your time?
VAJRA: We have at the center here what you might find an
unusual device. It reads the color fields of the body, and the
doctors there, when you are not feeling up to 'participating',
which is what we believe is an aspect of health, that if one
wishes or cares to participate, that one will be healthy. That
when they go to the doctor, the doctor there puts them behind a
device that is a clear crystallized golden screen and
this screen can read the colors and emanations which come from
each and every organ in the body, and one can see disease
manifesting originally on causal planes first. Then that color
which is lacking, is infused in the body and so sometimes there
is a helmet that is worn or glasses of a particular type of
colored glass that are worn, or an infusement directly of a
color into the person which reacts first on the etheric
plane and then moves its way down into the different
planes until it directly effects the body.
Most, however, still use herbs. We grow very
specific types of herbs for their healing qualities. We have
passed down to us through the Red Elders
great knowledge of all of the different cures for any diseases
that we still have here. Many times, those who travel will
inadvertently come across a place that is still contaminated
from underground radiation from some of the great wars or from
some of the weapons that were buried at that point and so
their auric fields must be completely realigned and we also
do an energy transference.
As I explained to you, high energy systems flow into low energy
systems, so when one is sick we can simply gather into a group
and allow the energy from us to flow into them but not taking
anything and not giving anything, allowing the 'Veil' to
be parted and allowing our bodies to simply act as a screen, a
conduit if you will, of the energy of the Creation. This usually
suffices to bring that which is in chaos back into order.
Illness comes when a person is very out of balance and that
usually only comes from traveling abroad or sometimes when they
make the trip to Luna and back. There is some
readjustment that needs to be done in order to allow their
bodies to reconfigure themselves to the bioelectric magnetic
fields of the Earth.
DOUG: Is sound used for healing?
VAJRA: Very much so. When we do the laying on of
hands, we will use different chants and tones. There are
certain types of large disks which are made from a layered gold
and other substances which can be struck in a certain manor.
There are ancient artifacts that were unearthed, kept in
temples, where people can go to be healed in which the doctors
there use these small hammers to strike the disks and they
create a sonic frequency and vibration. These are called
Sun Disks and they were brought down from
monasteries in the Andes. Some say they can be used to
teleport from place to place, but I have never seen this done.
So there are many different types and forms of healing
techniques used. There is no one set type and form.
VAJRA: It does have a great deal to do with frequency as
well. With the frequencies of the 7 to 14 cycles, which
are those of the Earth Mother, are also those of
very higher states of consciousness. The persons who are best at
the healing, are once again, the children. And many
times, the children will be the ones that the sick will go to
instead of making the journey to Center or into the larger
towns. The children themselves seem to have the gift of laying
on of hands and infusing color, as it seems so much more natural
for them. So my hope very much is that our children will grow
with these extra added talents and abilities.
I feel, in my own opinion, and having the experience of being
able to do this, and having certain knowledge of this time and
knowledge from grandfather, is that I feel that we are very much
the interim state in man's evolution. We are in no way perfect.
We are by no means gods in any way shape or form, except over
our own experience. We humbly hope to achieve that. We have the
Creation that flows within us. We have the example of the
Immanuella who manifests the highest aspects of the
Creation here, but my hope for the entire planet very much
rests in the children. In the future that lies before them. I
feel that much of our society has been successfully rebuilt in
just the past 20 years or so, but there is so much more to come.
DOUG: Is your family structure the same as in our time?
VAJRA: It is slightly different. After many of the wars,
the ratio of men to women was much less than it would be now.
Your population.... it is almost impossible for me to conceive
the number of people that are on your planet .... is it 6 to 8
DOUG: I think that's correct. I don't know for sure.
VAJRA: There are... because of the balance of the
feminine aspects of the God Ray, there are many
more women alive now, and because of much of what occurred in
the war and the Great Plagues where it was mostly
the men who were killed, the shortages of men to women
were very great and so in our time and in our society it is not
abnormal for one man to have two to seven wives, which is the
limit by law. That would be the only difference, (Laughs) simply
because the women run everything anyway. I have
three wives named Rachel, Dakini and Gwenivargh, and nine
children, 6 boys and 3 girls, whose names are...
DOUG: (Laughs) Please! That's ok!
VAJRA: (Looks disappointed) Ah, well. Other people's
children are boring. But I am young and strong and will have a
few more. Boys run in my family, so everyone wants me to hurry
up and have more, so us men will not be so outnumbered! "I feel
like a horse.....", (Laughs) That is our expression! Grandfather
would say, "Good work if you can get it!" (Laughs)
(Laughter from the audience)
VAJRA: But it is nice. They are wonderful. They are
noisier than I would like. They TALK a great deal! I have
problems concentrating sometimes doing the things that I need to
do, but we live in a society that is not under the madness of
the masculine aspects of where it is we were.
We understand that we are living in a balance. That we have come
through the Matriarchal age of the Mother, the
Patriarchal age of the Father, which brought much of the
destruction in the last Great Age. Now we are in a balance
between those societies. We are in the Age or Aeon of the
Son, or the Daughter, or the age of the
Child if you will.
That what your age, or your generation, is about to go through
has much to do with the puberty of that child. It has much to do
with the violence and the rage and the misunderstandings and the
temper, if you will, that you are evolving from.
In the later part and beginning of your 20th and 21st Century,
so much of what survives now is an obsession that you have with
games and games and games.... so many games! Little children's
games. We have games here which serve a purpose to educate and
enlighten, but in our society the things that are important are
dance or music or art and singing or the joyous expressions of
love towards one another..... and the women are simply better at
that than we men are now.
I humbly learn what I can. It is the men, still, because there
are many parts of our earth that are still dangerous, that are
given the important decisions. My wives say that they just let
me think that I am in control. (Laughs) They just allow me the
illusion of thinking that I have any sort of authority at all
(Laughs) ..... which I think is true!
But it is peaceful that way. They have taught us very much the
ways of peace themselves. They understand there are certain
jealousies and certain egos that they have to confront, but at
the same time we provide safety for the children, we provide
food, we provide shelter. I humbly try to be a gentle and
gracious person. That is the difference. It would be that
everyone in our society has a place and everyone in our society
is cared for, and certain decisions that we may make here may
seem unusual to you in your time, but when our children, or
should I say young adults, are mated and married, we understand
the energy that comes from them. We understand their auras. We
do very, advanced and very tedious astrological readings for
each one of them, to make sure that all of the pairings are
harmonious. Not only between a husband and wife, but also
between a husband, or man, or any other wives that he may have.
Eventually, as the population grows, and as the ratio of men to
women begins to even again, we will no doubt go back to a very
even-centered, one on one, masculine/feminine society, but now
there are more women because they have more to teach us about
the arts and music and dance and our society is about education
and raising our children. We understand that we are very much
midwives here for what is to come. We are the middle children if
you will. We are living through the young adulthood, or the
teenage years of humanity's evolution, whereas where you are at
now, and what you about to go through, is the result of the
growing pains of Mankind's raging, hormonal puberty. Om?
DOUG: Yes, thank you. You've mentioned a couple times the
importance of music. Someone here in our group
tonight says they just had a dream that music will be
holographically imprinted in water in the year 2015.
DOUG: Is this true?
VAJRA: We use holograms for a great deal. The liquid
concept is still used in many of the great computers. It was
abandoned primarily for the Crystal Spheres, or
Crys Spheres for short. When we discovered that in a
certain type of
mono-atomic gold, that
by rearranging the molecular structure of gold, that it became
clear and so we began to create the Crys Spheres,
which look much like children's marbles, but some are larger
balls, about the size of a man's hand. The Crys Spheres
are placed in what looks like a small fountain, and water pours
over it and makes it spin. This interfaces with a complex
quantum, blue laser interface. All this stores millions of giga-bytes
at a subatomic level. The computers themselves look like black
stone blocks, which can only be described as being
The use of these devices has been greatly limited however,
because of their great misuse and because these computers were
used to mark much of the population and to kill and destroy many
people in your coming time. We have opted more for the
development of the human mind and the human soul and spirit. We
interact with these devices, and they certainly make things
easier for us on certain occasions, however, we prefer using our
own talents and abilities. I have one here because of my work,
because of the job that I do, but many families do not and will
not allow them in their house.
There was a great backlash against these machines and devices.
This leads to ...... one of the great computers that the
Immanuella uses in many forms in which the actual
consciousness or brain and mind if you will, of John,
the Great Genius was actually stored after his death,
in 15AI or so. This great computer acts very much as a council,
or simply an advisor. It in no way dictates what it is that we
do. There is no one set central government that tells any
individual or any country ways it must live. There is a very
standard set of laws that are obeyed that come from 'The
Keepsake' of the old times. (He begins to look around,
closing his eyes, sensing something.)
My time here is at an end. I must return. (The crowd goes "Ahhh!"
and asks for him to stay) You forget, grandfather is in MY body!
Back at my home! (Laughs) With my WIVES!
DOUG: Oh my GOD! You better get back this second! (There
is uproarious laughter!)
VAJRA: From the Heart of the One, from All that
Is. Never forget, you are all the Sons and Daughters of God.
Each day, experience that ennobling truth. (Bowing) Om-A-Ho!
Audience In Unison: Om-A-Ho!