NEW DAWN (ND): Most
New Dawn readers are acquainted with your best selling book The
True Story of the Bilderberg Group, in which you expose the
secretive global elite planning group that meets annually.
reported that at this year's Bilderberg meeting they expressed
grave concern about the rise of Iran, Russia and China. And of
course the volatile situation in Ukraine.
Before we discuss your
latest book TransEvolution: The Coming Age of Human
Deconstruction, could you elaborate on your approach to
understanding world events?
DANIEL ESTULIN (DE): We are witnessing first hand
the destruction of the world's economy and the work of
When one speaks of policy we often mean
foreign or national executed by national governments. But we
have to understand that Presidents and Prime Ministers are
messengers of those who rule the world from behind the scenes.
Which is why to understand what is happening in the world we
have to frame issues in terms of global policy decisions.
decisions are not made at the White House or Downing Street but
rather in the back rooms of the supranational elite.
taking place in the Ukraine, the revolts in Venezuela, the utter
destruction of the American economy (read Detroit), drug wars in
Colombia and beyond, Kosovo, Yugoslavia in the 1990s, Syria,
Color Revolutions, etc, etc. - these are not isolated events
but rather part of the continuum to change the very paradigm of
modern society and take us to hell through,
perpetual wars, etc.
ND: Your book warns about the imminent "transhumanist"
revolution which seeks to integrate human with machine. What
transhumanism and how is it connected directly to the
global elites you've written extensively on in the past?
DE: Transhumanism is an ultra high tech dream of computer
scientists, philosophers, neural scientists and many others. It
seeks to use radical advances in technology to augment the human
body, mind and ultimately the entire human experience.
people this sounds like something from a science fiction film.
Few are aware of constant breakthroughs in technology, which
makes the transhumanist vision a very real possibility for the
For example, neurochip interfaces, computer chips that connect
directly to the brain, are being developed right now.
ultimate goal of a brain chip would be to increase intelligence
thousands of time over - basically turning the human brain into
a super computer. Lifelong emotional well-being is also a key
concept within transhumanism.
This can be achieved through a
recalibration of the pleasure centers in the brain.
Pharmaceutical mood renderers have been suggested, which will be
cleaner and safer than mind-altering drugs. This is Aldous
Huxley's 21st century scientific dictatorship without tears.
Transhumanism was born out of humanism, which is yet another
clever disguise of "scientism," created specifically so that
global eugenics operations could be carried out without being
ND: At the start of TransEvolution you make a link between the
2005 Bilderberg Group meeting and the 2006 British government
document 'Strategic Trends Report 2007-2036'.
Was the discovery
of this link one of the reasons you wrote the book?
At the end of the 2005 Bilderberg Conference in
Germany, I was given a first draft of what later turned into a
UK government report, 'Strategic Trends Report 2007-2036', a
secret source document on the future of humanity.
report is a blueprint for the UK's future strategic national
requirements through the analysis of key risks and future shocks
to the world's financial, economic, political, demographic and
technological areas and markets.
But it wasn't the only report. In my investigation I came across
two additional very important reports published over a decade
ago by the British government and the US government.
called 'The Age of Transition' which dealt with
nanotechnologies, biology, information technology and cognitive
The other is 'Russia 2045 Global Future'.
It was the hope of three conferences, 'The Age of Transitions',
the 'Global Future 2045 International Congress' and the 'NBIC'
conference, to integrate humanity with nature to save Planet
Earth from mankind.
Visions laid out included robotics,
cybernetics, artificial intelligence, life extension, brain
enhancement, brain-to-brain interaction, virtual reality,
genetic engineering, teleportation, human-machine interfaces, neuromorphic engineering and enhanced human capabilities for
Once you break down the Orwellian speak, you realize that we,
the people, are the enemy of the elite and through technological
advancement and enhancement they will be able to control the
future of humanity.
ND: The controversial Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin, who
has been dubbed "Putin's brain" by the globalist CFR journal
Foreign Affairs, warns in regard to the transhumanist agenda:
"There will be some black magic yet, and certain things that
will outright petrify. I think genetic engineering - we're only
now seeing the last people; we haven't yet seen the first
post-people, which are very soon to come. These should be
mutants, clones, and they aren't just fantasies or science
What do you think will happen?
DE: Our children are the last truly human generation of human
beings on the planet.
We will have transhuman children - post
human, man-machine, cyborgs who are not totally human as a
result of synthetic biology.
Now, in one of the biggest breakthroughs in recent history,
scientists have created a synthetic genome that can
self-replicate. They have taken a cell and modified the genes of
a cell by inserting DNA from another organism. And the bacteria
replicated itself thus creating a second generation of the
The organism will do exactly what the scientist
a living thing, but under the control of Man.
If the 19th century was all about the revolution of harnessing
energy from fossil fuels, and the 20th century was about
exploiting the power of data, this century will be about
What's amazing is that the cell was assembled and sparked into
life in a laboratory. This technology takes mankind across a
threshold. A turning point that marked a coming of age of a new
science called synthetic biology, founded on the ambition that
one day it will be possible to design and manufacture a human
In other words, you can get DNA of anything here on Earth and
create organisms that never before existed entirely from
non-living materials. Scientists are creating new life forms
that the human immune system and the world have never so far
As such, it will revitalize perennial questions
about the significance of life - what it is, why it is important
and what role humans should have in its future.
ND: Most people seem oblivious to what is just around the corner
in terms of technology and its impact on human life. You say in
your book that transhumanism is "steered by the elite" and that
"we, the people, have not been invited."
What are some of the
visible strategies being employed by the elites to dumb down the
population so they sleepwalk into this so-called transhumanist "utopia"?
DE: Media, social media in all of its manifestations, and
especially Hollywood - GIJoe 2, Prototype, Transcendence,
Gatacca, I am Legend, Moon, Minority Report, AVATAR.
like 'Deus Ex'. These are films, but the reality is far more
Once they see some of these same gadgets employed in real life,
people think they are still watching a 'cool' Hollywood 'flick'.
For example, in Minority Report Tom Cruise's character John
Anderton has a radical surgery to replace his eyes so that he
can get past security systems that scan his retina to identify
As he's lying in a tub recovering from his black-market
procedure, tiny robots sneak into the room and scan his eyes in
an attempt to track down the fugitive Future Crime officer.
ability to scan retinas to identify people is straight out of a
sci-fi film but, outside of the use of spider-like drone bots,
this is very much present and near future. In fact, soon your
eyes may not even need to be in close proximity to the scanner
to be identified.
Engineers at Southern Methodist University are working closely
with the US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency to develop
a new type of eye scanner that could identify a room full of
people without their knowledge.
The new image sensors, called Panoptes, could locate and scan a person's iris regardless of
distance, and even if they're not looking directly at the
camera. The system, dubbed Smart-Iris, is impervious to problems
like poor lighting, glare, eye-lashes, or movement. And, with
the help of a new algorithm, it can function with only a partial
One of the most talked about areas of research is something
called the "Active Denial System," ADS.
ADS is a by-product of a
larger ongoing research effort looking for technology that could
delete and then replace a person's memories via the use of
If you are thinking Men in Black Hollywood science fiction, you
are absolutely right. Except the technology, called "Amnesia
Beam," is here, ready to be used at a moment's notice. What's
more, a team of neuroscientists has actually developed a brain
scan based on finding hints about what a subject is intending to
This is a nightmare version of Minority Report made reality.
Scientists claim that the seeds of criminal and anti-social
behavior can be found in children as young as three. More
researchers believe that violent tendencies have a biological
basis, and that tests and brain imaging can pick them up in
By predicting which children have the potential to be
trouble, treatments could be introduced to keep them on the
straight and narrow. If the tests are accurate enough, then a
form of screening could be introduced in the same way we test
for some diseases.
The theories were put forward by two leading
criminologists at the American Association for the Advancement
of Science in Washington.
Please understand, these are not publicly funded projects for
the betterment of humanity, but they are mostly secret
experiments sanctioned in the name of defence, which when put on
its head is crime prevention.
Extrapolated into the future it's
tailor-made to put down any rebellion by the 99% of the world's
population destined to live in abject poverty in crime infested
Mega-Cities of the future.
Let me give you another example. Last year FOX showed a TV
series called Almost Human where one of the main characters is a cyborg cop interacting with humans in society.
Almost Human is
about neuroscience, a key element of the elite's control.
Neuroscience is the study of the nervous system.
in chemistry, computer science, engineering, medicine and other
disciplines, neuroscience now also includes the study of the
molecular, cellular, developmental, structural, functional,
evolutionary, computational, and medical aspects of the nervous
From molecular and cellular studies of individual nerve
cells to imaging of sensory and motor tasks in the brain,
neuroscience has crossed the threshold of science and has become
a key element of national security apparatus the world over.
The development of sophisticated neuro-weapons will create a
perpetual state of uncertainty with the promise and peril of the
development of neuro-warfare and its effects. Emotional
detection systems will pervade public areas as global
surveillance networks seek out terrorists and criminals.
These technologies are not being developed to stop the
terrorists but rather to stop you!
The laws to justify these
technologies are not written on a whim. They are specifically
designed to give the government carte blanche authority over the
people during the chaos and confusion of the 'Age of
Transition to a planetary
You see, the future Bin Ladens and Qadhafis are not the enemy.
In fact, they never were. You are the enemy...
airports, border crossings or on the street corner, from now on
we will be mind-probed by amazing new technology developed by
Human Factors Division of the Department of Homeland
Security's Science & Technology directorate [this is an actual
division of US Homeland Security].
ND: You write that:
"Transhumanism fills people's hopes and
minds with dreams of becoming superhuman, but the fact of the
matter is that the true goal is the removal of that pesky, human
free will itself."
Do you believe
the elites are planning this
coming age of machine and robots (which are very sophisticated
and will replace many human jobs) as a way to eventually
eliminate the excess of humanity, the "useless eaters" as
they've been termed?
DE: There is an effort by
the mainstream press to focus on the
work issue and completely miss the bigger picture.
look at the technology. Brain machine interfaces would allow the
control of machinery with the brain itself. Implantable brain
chips would also be able to store information and enhance
cognitive function. The ultimate human machine symbiosis would
be to download the actual copy of a person's brain into a super
I repeat, this would allow someone to effectively live forever
in a computer-generated virtual simulation. And, of course, the
military implications of convergence are quite obvious.
cybernetic enhancement of human performance is inevitable.
Achieving these visions requires the decoding and understanding
of complex systems. The most important complex system being the
After all, it is the driving force behind human
Augmentation can be a huge business for these corporations. We
have been integrating ourselves with technology for decades now,
replacing damaged limbs with mechanical limbs,
chips into our bodies which give away huge amounts of
information to governments and corporations all across the
Has it come to the point when we will be actively
encouraged to exchange our perfectly functional body parts for
But it comes at a price. You will have to take the drugs for the
rest of your lives to make sure the augmentation works. These
drugs are both dangerous and addictive and expensive. If you
don't, your body will reject your augmentation.
The elite will
have their technology in you. They have the power to turn off
your limbs, the potential to turn off your eyes, send messages
to your brain and control your thoughts as if they have the
power of God.
The technology doesn't end there: Intel is working on
implantable sensors in the brain that will be able to directly
control computers and cell phones. By the year 2020 you won't
need a keyboard and mouse to control your computer. Instead,
users will open documents and surf the web using nothing more
than their brain waves.
The potential 'benefits' of such technology are almost beyond
An article on the website of the Science Channel
put it this way:
"If you could pump data directly into your gray
matter at, say, 50 mb per sec - you'd be able to read a 500-page
book in just under two-tenths of a second.
How would the
world change if you could download a lifetime of learning
directly into your brain in a matter of weeks?"
The possibilities are endless.
But so is the potential for
abuse. Through interaction, implantable microchips can 'talk'
directly to the brain, bypassing sensory receptors. This would
give a tyrannical government an ultimate form of control. If you
could download thoughts and feelings directly into the brains of
your citizens, you could achieve total control and never have to
worry about them turning on you.
We haven't even scratched the surface. Called Remote Neural
Monitoring (RNM), this technology is already in use in the USA,
UK, Spain, Sweden, Germany and France. It allows them to see
through your eyes, hear your thoughts, and upload photos and
scents into your brain as real as if you saw or smelled it in
the natural environment.
Needless to say, the perpetrators can hear what you hear because
you become a unit of the mainframe.
They can change your behavior, affect memory functions and emotions. This is not a
plotline of a dystopian novel. This is real and it is being
implemented today, every day by the governments who profess to
protect us from evil.
In fact, you could potentially program these chips to make your
citizens feel good all the time: The ultimate goal of Huxley's
scientific dictatorship without tears - soma personified. The
future is now.
Instead of drugs like cocaine and marijuana giving you a natural
high, you could have these chips produce a 'natural high' that
never ends. Drug dependency replaced by a fully government
sanctioned chip dependency. The way of the future...
Post-humanity will be a new human, genetically engineered and
brain-chipped for total control. Part man and part machine, the
new man will no longer have a need of the sexual reproductive
If the elite's plan is to reduce the world's
population, can you think of a better way to do that?
ND: What's the connection between elite
control of the world's
food supply and the depopulation agenda?
DE: There is no better or cheaper way to reduce population than
And in order to starve a people to death you
must take control of their food production away from independent
farmers and put it into the hands of giant corporations
subservient to the interests of World Company Inc.
Ten to twelve pivotal companies, assisted by another three
dozen, run the world's food supply. This cartel has complete
domination over world cereals and grains supplies, from wheat to
corn and oats, from barley to sorghum and rye.
But it also
controls meat, dairy, edible oils and fats, fruits and
vegetables, sugar, and all forms of spices.
While these firms maintain the legal fiction of being different
corporate organizations, in reality this is one interlocking
syndicate with a common purpose and multiple overlapping boards
Please understand, this interlocked self-perpetuating syndicate
decides who eats and who doesn't, who lives and who dies. It is
a virtual spider web of financial, political, economic and
industry interests with the Venetian ultramontane fondi model at
These people own and manage the affairs of an
interlocking corporate apparatus that dominates choke points
within the global economy, especially finance, insurance, raw
materials, transportation, and consumer goods.
But it does not end there. The control of food supplies is a
matter of national security. The US Department of Agriculture is
one of the key elements in a national security edifice
attempting to control the world food market.
Food is power. When it is used to cull the population, it
becomes a weapon of mass destruction. You may not realize it,
but the elite certainly do.
ND: In light of these alarming behind-the-scenes developments,
can you elaborate on the global elite's long-term plan?
DE: There are currently seven billion people on Planet Earth, a
small blue orb meandering through space with limited natural
resources and an ever-expanding population. Food and water are
The elite understand this: a larger population
equals fewer natural resources and more food and water supply
Therefore, from the point of view of an oligarchical
elite, if they want to completely control a planet, they must
reduce the population to a more 'manageable' number. Remember,
seven billion people and growing is a lot of mouths to feed.
the elite to eat, you and I have to die. How is that for a
ND: How can aware people resist this diabolical 'TransEvolution'?
DE: We have to understand that all of us have a place in the
Immortality, the way I understand it, is assuring the
survival of the human species. Human beings are the most divine
element of the known Universe. Nothing compares to our divine
spark of reason.
Technology and progress must be used to
increase Man's power in the Universe, not to destroy humanity.