Wilcock: Every night that we were doing this play, and I was selling
candy bars with him, in the context of this friendship, he would
continue to attack me, he would continue to attack my credibility. I
gave him several of my best readings and, instead of just
acknowledging how nicely worded they were, he was trying to pick
them apart. And it seemed like, a lot of times, he was doing it just
for the sake of trying to make an argument.
He read the whole manuscript of what has now become
that time it was called 1999 Cycle. I have had many, many people
tell me that Convergence is the best book they’ve ever read, that it
has brought together research as diverse as Gurdjieff, Ouspenski,
Collins, Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval, Richard Hoagland—just the
whole gamut of metaphysical writers that this book has fused
He read the initial version of it and told me that it was very
interesting, but held no substance. So, I knew that it was not doing
me any good. I was severely losing confidence in myself and, as a
result of that, I broke-off the contact and I basically have not
made any further direct attempts on my own to go to the A.R.E.
offices and try to talk to them, even though I live right in the
same town with them.
The next important stage of my public disclosure happened on July 1,
1998, when I made the conscious decision to move into a new place,
which I had done, and to entertain the possibility of doing this
business of readings for other people for money, instead of doing
these other jobs that I had been working, which were all temp-jobs
at $6.25 an hour.
When I made the commitment to do it, I got one of the longest
readings ever. It took me about an hour and 20 minutes to do one
reading, which is unusually long. This particular reading generated
a lot of new information. Some of the information was confirming the
stories about the bloodline of the Holy Grail, or the idea that
Jesus survived the crucifixion and, even though he had ascended in
the spiritual sense, he went on to have a family. So, my readings
talked about that and gave some credence to the story. The story is
now becoming extremely compelling with works such as that of
Lawrence Gardner who wrote
Bloodline Of The Holy Grail.
Wilcock: And Lee and the other guy who wrote
Holy Blood, Holy Grail,
and other books along those lines, like Messianic Legacy.
So, at the end of this particular reading, once I had made the
commitment to do readings for others, there was an expressly
difficult warning that came through and it discussed the possibility
that there was going to be a terrorist nuclear strike on New York
City on August 17, 1998. And it came through in very deeply
fragmented form, but it was obviously understandable.
Obviously, this never happened. In the wake of that event, I called
the FBI because I was so concerned about the possibility that
something like this could happen. I had gotten several dreams that
showed it happening. I had gotten readings that had predicted the
exact day and also showed me the astrology surrounding the event.
Based on my track record—I had hundreds and hundreds of accurate
prophecies by this point—I knew this was nothing to ignore. And so I
felt I had to call someone who would be responsible enough to be
able to do something to defend New York against this.
The reading got very specific. It said that this group was going to
try to take a boat and ride it into the harbor, and they had secured
a suitcase nuke from the collapsed Soviet regime and were planning
on exploding it.
So, when I called the FBI, as is to be expected, they very naturally
were tapping my phone to beat the band within a week, and the tap
continues to this day. In fact, that click that we heard in the
conversation [earlier] was the tap coming on when I said the word
It has never stopped. I have lived, ever since the time that I
started to do readings for others, without privacy. My phone is
continually tapped. It is highly annoying, but the joy that I have
felt from doing readings for others, and away from the wage-slavery
system, has been unbelievable.
My next major event was that I moved onto a farm that was
self-sustaining. And during that time I didn’t have to pay rent and
the readings had slowed down, and that’s when I took three months of
my time, working about sixteen hours a day, seven days a week, to
I finished Convergence on March 8, 1999. And, right at about the
exact same time that I did,
Richard Hoagland had his heart attack,
which made me very concerned.
My next significant event was that I got in touch with
Jenkins, who was the author of Maya Cosmo Genesis 2012, and he made
arrangements for me to get on the Laura Lee [radio]
Show to voice
these ideas. And so, now, as we speak on August 3, of 1999, I have
now been on the Laura Lee Show, which was on July 17, 1999, and my
public presence has finally increased to the point where people are
starting to pay attention to this material.
Now, the Cayce readings have said, in reading 294-151: "Is it not
fitting, then, that he must return to be as a liberator of the
world." And I always tell people, you’ve got to remember, it says
"a" liberator of the world; it does not say "the" liberator of the
Wilcock: It’s not a messianic prophecy. There are many
liberators—anyone who decides to work for Light, to give up the
focus to earn money and have a materialistic life, in order to serve
God in what they do, is a liberator. Anyone who just tries to be of
service to others is a liberator. So, it’s not anything grandiose.
I’ve had a lot of people tell me that, you know, if you really are
Cayce, then why aren’t you famous? And I just say to them, "Look, it
doesn’t matter how many people have gotten this information. What’s
more important is the quality of the information (that those who did
receive it) have gotten.
And what I have done is try to make all of my material come from a
very, very high level of quality, so that it can en-Light-en people
as much as possible. Because it is not so much important if you
reach large numbers of people. If we understand the Law of One, we
understand that All is One, and therefore the One is in each person.
So, if you are able to reach one person significantly enough that
you have changed their life, then you have reached everyone. So
there is no need to worry about getting big numbers.
That’s not what’s important. And that’s why I give my information
away freely on the Internet. I only make money from doing personal
readings because I want as many people as possible to be able to
I do believe that my readings are telling me that there is going to
be much more exposure in the future, in the near future, and I am
prepared to handle it as far as it goes. I don’t know what the
future holds, but I’m certainly going to stick to my ideals through
the whole process.
My ideals are that I do not want ego to get involved. I do not want
to think of myself as anything special. I have a mission to perform.
I have a job to do. The job is to tell people the reality of life on
Earth and the reality of life in the Higher Dimensions, and to make
that reality more tangible.
The whole reason why we’re here is to make a choice between service
to self or service to others. The choice that we’re obviously
supposed to make is service to others. The whole reason why these
readings are so intensely focused right now, is that we’re heading
into a frequency shift—and that’s probably going to be your next
question: what is ascension? How is it going to happen?
Just to give you a real brief overview, in
Cayce reading 1602-3, it
"In 1998, we may find a great deal of the gradual activities that
have come about. These are due to the cycle of the solar activity,
or the Sun’s passage through the various spheres of activity."
The Cayce readings mentioned the
Solar Cycle. In my book
discussed how we have now discovered this Solar Cycle through the
work of Maurice Cotterell.
Maurice Cotterell has taken ancient work from
the Mayans, concerning
certain super-numbers, such as 1,366,560, and he’s discovered that
these same numbers, that were written down by the Mayans, correspond
to cycles in the Sunspot activity that he was able to discover by
charting out the orbits of the Sun at its various points.
The Sun rotates 26 days at the equator, and 37 days at the poles. As
a result of this, it kind-of twists and binds-up as it goes
along—sort of like stirring a pot of soup, it’s faster where the
spoon is and slower around the edge.
So, when he plotted out these variables and made a graph out of it,
he discovered short-term cycles, but also much longer-term cycles.
And one of these longer-term cycles is about 3,740 years, or
1,366,040 days—and this corresponds very, very tightly with the
Mayan number because all you have to do is to add two of the Mayan
sacred numbers of 260, which would be 520, and you get from
1,366,040 to 1,366,560.
So, this cycle that he had discovered, he believes, is what
corresponds to the shifting of the solar magnetic poles. Now, how
did the Mayans know about this 3,000 years ago and graph it out with
a number that is exactly the same, given this slight adjustment?
The other thing that is even more interesting is that
calendar is approximately 5,200 days long, and that’s another cycle
that the Mayans keep watching. If we expand the Mayan calendar by a
factor of 5, we come out to about 26,000 years, and this is the Big
Cycle that we are concerned with.
This cycle can be seen on Earth, with the slow-wobbling of the
Earth’s axis that’s known as precession, and it’s also visible in
the Sun. This Sun-spot cycle, that causes the pole shift, the Mayans
also had, and corresponds to exactly 7 of these—wait, let me
rephrase that: 7 of these cycles correspond to 1 precessional cycle
that’s coming from the Sun.
So, this made me realize, when I looked at the
Cayce readings, that
there was a hyper-dimensional effect involved in the Solar Cycle.
And that hyper-dimensional effect was causing us to go from one
realm of frequency to another. In other words, a frequency of
The understanding that I now have is that we are passing from the
3rd level of vibration into the 4th. And when this passage is
complete, the frequency of matter on Earth, in vibrational speed,
will be seen to increase. As the frequency tries to increase, it
creates a great pressure on any person who is not accepting the
higher-dimensional energy, because the higher-dimensional energy is
the energy of love.
So, any place that we are not being loving and alive at this time is
going to be forcibly shown to us—and very directly—because this
energy is forcing us to be more loving—we have to, if we want to
stay compatible. If we’re not compatible with it, everything that’s
holding us back is going to be very forcibly shown to our face.
At this point it looks as if—though the August 11 solar eclipse
probably will have happened by the time this newspaper is
released—it is a major turning point in this timeline. It is
believed that this event, if you look 3 months before it and 3
months after it, this junction is sort-of like what they might call
in quantum physics a "singularity" or [the focal point for] a series
of anomalous and potentially destructive events on the planet. It
also is what clears the "gateway" for the most positive events,
Martin: David, you’re cutting in and out. Can you repeat a few of
those phrases you just stated?
Wilcock: Ok. The August 11th
(1999) solar eclipse, based upon what I
understand in my readings, needs to be looked at in terms of 3
months before the event, as well as 3 months after the event. And
during this whole period of time we can see many changes, and these
changes correspond to the shedding of the darkness so that the Light
may come in.
There is a great deal of symbolic correlations around this
particular conjunction, namely the lore in the Bible of the Four
Beasts of the Apocalypse. It appears that these Four Beasts of the
Apocalypse were actually referring to the four signs of the zodiac
in which this Grand Cross is occurring.
The notion of the bride and the bridegroom in the
Book Of Revelation
corresponds to the diamond ring that will be formed by the Sun’s
corona. In other words, the corona looks like a diamond ring. It has
a ring, and there’s one point where the Sun is brighter. It’s been
called the diamond ring in history.
Also, the time of this corona, over Greenwich, England is exactly
11:11 a.m., that’s when it hits the corona. And I have been seeing
this on the clocks for 4 or 5 years, at least, almost every day.
Now, also, if you look in the Book Of Revelation, Chapter 11, Verse
11, it says:
"After the 3 and ½ days, the righteous people who had
been struck down by the masses again rose up and struck fear into
the hearts of many. God appeared on a cloud and said, ‘Come up here’
and they were born into the Heavens, and in that same hour
earthquakes shook the Earth."
Now, it’s also very interesting because
Graham Hancock and
Robert Bauval explain at the end of their book,
Message Of The Sphinx, or
Keeper Of Genesis (if you have the European version) that the 11:11
ratio is expressly flagged in the Great Pyramid over and over again.
And the Cayce reading said that the timeline indicated by the
Pyramid in it’s internal passageways would be complete at the 1998
Now, Cayce’s readings also said that 1998 was possibly a time of
great geophysical changes, but also the possible time for the second
coming of Christ. Now, obviously we haven’t had any severe
geophysical changes, although there are certainly many things that
are creeping up on us. And we haven’t seen a direct physical
manifestation of Jesus.
The readings explained there were two sides to the
second coming of
Christ story; one side is, obviously, a physical apparition; but the
other, far more important, side was the awakening of the Christ
spirit within each person.
So, when we understand that the
second coming of Christ has to do
with the birth of Christ within each of us, Christ-consciousness
within each of us, then we understand what this Solar Cycle is
producing. So, it is my belief, based on what my readings are
telling us, at some discreet point in the future, enough people on
this planet will have attained Christ-consciousness and that will
change the frequency upon which their spiritual vibrations are
At the same time we reach this critical threshold of vibration which
enough people have attained, that will also increase the vibrational
speed of the global grid—which is this geometric network of lines
that corresponds to how higher dimensional energies are brought to
the Earth. And that’s discussed in Convergence in much greater
detail than we are going to do here.
When enough of us shift our energy, that allows the global grid to
shift its energy. When the global grid makes the realignment to the
fourth-dimension vibrations, according to numerous mystics
(including myself), it will make an approximate 20-degree correction
in its positioning. That’s a magnetic correction, so that means a
magnetic pole shift.
The important thing to remember is that the
ascension effect, the
effect of people transforming into Light and transfiguring from the
physical, will be able to occur at the point that the grid shifts,
but the point of the grid shifts takes a few hours to occur, even
though it actually transforms. It doesn’t happen instantaneously.
However, when that energy in the grid has shifted, there is an
instantaneous possibility for everyone (who has attained this
crucial vibrational frequency) to ascend.
The vibrational frequency is quite easy to make, actually. All it
requires is that you have cleared a 50% threshold of a desire within
yourself, on the core level, to be of service to others. So, if
you’re just barely above 50% motivated towards service to others, as
opposed to motivated toward service to self, serving yourself only,
then you will be compatible with ascension.
Now, one of the things that I am here for is to "legitimize" your
dark side, your shadow side. I, certainly, do not have a stellar
past. There is no need for anyone who reads this to feel that they
are somehow incompatible with ascension because they are somehow
"not good enough". All you have to do is care for other people on a
very basic level and you have made this vibration.
So, when that critical mass happens, that will be the time of both
ascension and corresponding Earth changes. And we can never know
when it’s going to be. It has to do with the mass-consciousness, and
that mass-consciousness can shift at any moment.
There could be a global event that could occur that could make a lot
of people suddenly become more loving, and in that moment, that
could be when the shift happens. I believe that there are
indications that the next major opening for when something like this
might occur is in May of 2000. But, I also am open to the fact that
any time between August 11, 1999 and May of 2000 there could be this
So, you have to live every day as though you could be ascending this
day. If this was your last day on Earth, did you do the most valiant
and most spiritual thing that you could be doing? Did you overcome
self-indulgent habit patterns? Did you clear boundaries that you’ve
put up around yourself that say these are your limitations and you
can go no further? Have you lived-out your potential? So, I try to
live every day as though it were my last and I try to live-up to my
At the time of ascension, all who ascend will have the experience of
the most profound religious experience of their entire life. The
experience is supposed to be so ecstatic that there is no way to
even emphasize how fantastic it will feel, using human language.
It’s also been told to me that, once we have ascended, we will have
the opportunity to return to the Earth, after it has been cleansed
by the pole shift, and this will be the beginning of the 5 th
root-race, according to the Cayce readings and the Mayans. Both say
The 4th-dimensional beings are actually going to be—according to
what the research says from these readings—the 4th-dimensional
beings are a cooperative melding between the human form and the form
of the Zeta Reticulans or the Greys. And that’s why people are
seeing these alien abductions going on and there are these
babies that are being produced that are half human. These are the
bodies that are going to be able to live in the 4th dimension.
A 4th-dimensional being has all of the same abilities that Christ
did, once he ascended. It’s 100 times more harmonious to live in
this realm of vibration than it is in the 3rd dimension. Life is
much less complicated in one sense, much more joyous and
invigorating in another sense. The Earth is going to be returned to
a pristine state. That is going to be the collective effort of these
entities, once they’ve ascended in the beginning. They will be able
to use telekinesis to prepare the Earth and to restore the natural
balances in our ecosystem.
So, it’s a glorious future that’s ahead of us and I live every day
with the knowledge that, from talking to these beings and doing
research, that this is real. It would be nice if everyone else could
experience the faith that I have of knowing that this is really
going to happen, and believing that this is going to happen, because
it really does change your outlook.
We can then understand the fact that all of these apparently hidden
correspondences— between weather changes, the degradation of
society, the outrageousness of the government and media—all the good
things and all the bad things, together, that they’re all leading up
to a point and the point is not doom; the point is spiritual
transformation. And the transformation itself is such a glorious
surprise that it goes way far beyond what we could have ever
Do you have any questions?
Martin: You’ve pretty well covered it. The two primary questions I
had were concerning the
pyramids of Egypt, because
have some rather nasty plans in mind for August and December of this
year, in terms of rituals at the pyramid that will, essentially,
work at sending out a vibration, planetarily, using the
to, basically, keep people asleep, and I just wanted to hear your
comments about what surprises there may be in store from the Lighted
side regarding the pyramids and use of the pyramids. That was one
The only other question has to do with the "harvesting".
Wilcock: Ok. You have to understand that the
Great Pyramid exists at
the epicenter of the global grid. In other words, the global grid is
a series of magnetic and hyper-dimensional lines of energetic force
and they correspond to the five basic platonic solids—the octahedron, the
cube, the tetrahedron, the icosahedron, and the
dodecahedron. So, the epicenter of all of that energetic work is at
the exact site location of the Great Pyramid of Giza. That is why it
was built there.
When we’re looking at the August 11 conjunction, we’re looking at a
hyper-dimensional physics effect. The actual alignment of planets is
so strong that it greatly increases the amount of pressure of the
4th-dimensional energies coming in. And when the eclipse happens and
the Sun goes corona, it actually creates a sort-of hyper-dimensional
laser beam that strikes the Earth and moves along its surface. And
every place where this eclipse touches is getting this dramatically
powerful burst of energy. There is nowhere on the planet where that
is harnessed to a greater degree than at the Great Pyramid of Giza,
because that is the epicenter of the grid.
My own readings are telling me that this is an effort that is being
made [by the dark ones] in order to try to stop the increase, or to
try to use the increasing energy to create greater chaos on the
Wilcock: The important thing to remember is that, if you look at the
hierarchy of dimensions in the octave—and when I say the octave, I
mean the fact that our dimensions are based on a cycle of 8—in other
words, once you’ve gotten to the 8th dimension, you’ve gotten back
to the Oneness, there is no more fragmentation.
We live on the 3rd dimension. There are also beings who live in the
4th, beings in the 5th, beings in the 6th, and you could say that
there are beings in the 7th, but their nature is very mysterious to
The negative entities do exist. They do have their UFO technology,
and they are trying to subvert the human population. But the much
greater amount of input comes from the Light side. The negative
entities can exist on the 4th-dimensional level, the 5th-dimensional
level, and the very, very beginning of the 6th-dimensional level.
But at the point when they hit the 6th-dimensional level, what’s
called the spiritual entropy is so high that it, literally,
dissolves their soul unless they become positive. Therefore,
essentially speaking, all 6th-dimensional and 7th-dimensional beings
must be of the positive polarity.
The path of negativity is a path of separation. It’s a path of
service to self. It’s a path wherein the entity believes that, since
self is God, then others must serve that self in order to serve
So, they desire to enslave the public, and rationalize that, by
getting the public to serve them, the public might then learn to
serve themselves as well. And in serving themselves, they’re serving
The reason why this is a backward philosophy is that everyone else
is God too, not just yourself. And when you stop thinking of
yourself as separate from God, you realize that everyone is part of
this Oneness. And so that’s why service to others IS the positive
polarity, whereas service to self is a confusion, it’s a belief that
serving the self is serving God and, therefore, everyone else must
also serve yourself.
Now, these negative extraterrestrials have worked with the elite of
Earth quite extensively. They’ve had negotiations, agreements, etc.
And I am sure that it’s the negative entities in the
higher-dimensional planes who alerted our governments and
Illuminati and so forth to the existence of this conjunction and
what could be done with it.
The way I look at something like this is, almost as a humorous
side-note, because no matter what type of human sacrifice ritual you
try to do, or however you try to thwart this energy, the positivity
of this energy, of this conjunction, is so overwhelmingly powerful
that it just defies any attempts to defile the energy. We have more
people on the planet who are balanced in the direction of the
positive than in the negative. Not necessarily the vast majority,
but enough people are more oriented toward service to others than
service to self.
The best thing that these negative forces can try to do is to try to
keep us in a constant state of fear. The way that they do this,
primarily, is through news media and creating world events,
deliberately fabricated world events, to instill this never-ending
sense of terror and paranoia, a sense of apocalyptic, millennial
doom, so that we are, essentially, very fearful. If they can keep us
in a perpetual state of worry and fear, then they can also keep us
feeling that we have to be of service to self, because if we don’t
we’re in grave danger.
And so, the self-serving behavior would be to hoard food, and in the
event of Y2K, to buy guns so that you can shoot anyone who tries to
take your food—that’s all self-serving. And so, the more fearful
that we are, the more paranoid we are, then the more we are actually
espousing this negative philosophy.
And so that’s what their purpose is, they’re trying to grant us the
opportunity to be afraid, grant us the opportunity to live in
terror. And my readings have said that there is going to be a
rapidly escalating constellation of events at the later half of this
year, that we’re just now about to go into, including the
possibility of a very large-scale war—I just got that the other
night—which could be very imminent. And all of these events are
going to be designed to make us just more and more fearful.
So, that’s why my readings are telling us that the most important
thing we can do at this time is to disassociate from the media, at
least from the main, corporate media. Don’t pay attention to the
death-pangs of the world that is being transformed. Pay attention to
the birth pangs of the world that is being reborn within you, of the
Christ-consciousness that is being reborn within you.
If you focus on the system and structures that now exist, and you
don’t acknowledge and respect and love the fact that they must be
cleansed, then you certainly will have the opportunity to be very
fearful. If you focus on the consciousness change that’s happening
within you and on what this is all leading to, that we’re about to
go into this ascension, and you can hold that energy of positive
vibration and be extremely excited about what is happening, because
you understand why it’s happening, then you are on a good path.
The fear-mongers are going to try to make us think that this is the
apocalypse, that this is the end of time and the world is over and
we’re all going to die. Different people, such as
Dr. Steven Greer,
have suggested that they might even try to stage a mock alien
invasion with reverse-engineered extraterrestrial technology.
[Editor’s note: Not just the use of "alien" technology as in craft,
Project Blue Beam’s satellite-driven holographic
sky-show capabilities. For those unaware of these and other
diabolical possibilities, the potential for gullibility is quite
high—call it the late 1990s version of Orson Welles’ famous 1938
"War Of The Worlds" radio broadcast which sent a wave of panic
throughout the country.]
I’ve been getting information that they might start a very
large-scale war. So, we have to keep our eyes open for these things.
But, in short, I think it’s very important to remember that
negative entities are sort-of like a bunch of bumbling fools who
have not yet realized the true essence of the universe. They believe
that this is going to work, because they believe that they are
stronger than the Light, and so they’re going to try things like
But it doesn’t change for one minute the fact that the 4th dimension
is coming, and there are more people on this planet who are positive
than negative, and we are going to ascend. Everything is going to
occur on schedule.
The beings in the 6th and the 7th dimension have infinitely greater
resources and power available to them than these negative entities
do. And so, all the negative entities can really do is amplify
pre-existent personality patterns that we have that are fearful, and
just make us more fearful. That’s all they can really do. They can
try to lead us to becoming self-serving, but ultimately the choice
rests with the individual.
So, it’s important that we remain faithful to our own spiritual
ideals and remember that is the purpose of what’s going on here.
Martin: That’s a perfect place to stop.