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Can you explain more clearly
the differences between Elementals, animalistic Elementals,
"young" Gods, "mature" Gods and of course "free and
autonomous minds"?
The first four are what I call "collective astral entities",
made up of a group of astral souls linked together with
strands of astral matter that conduct astral energy as a
metal wire conducts electricity.
Studied by itself, each of
these astral souls is structure of living astral matter very
similar to one of the independent astral entities your
question calls "free and autonomous minds" and WiH (War
in Heaven) calls
"Free Spirits". Any astral soul, whether independent or part
of a collective entity, can also be called an "astral body",
and possess its own astral mind and personality structure.
In order to make a reasonably coherent comparison of the
different types of collective astral entities, I have to
begin by describing the simplest form that these entities
take, which you didn't include in your question: "Theocratic
Bands".
These are groups of linked spirits that can range in
size from two or three individuals up to hundreds.
In most cases, one of these spirits is Dominant Theocrat
the spirit whose astral mind controls and dominates the
astral minds of the other spirits in the Band by sending
energy impulses along the strands that bind the members of
the Band together. However, the degree of autonomy possessed
by the minds of subordinate spirits in a Theocratic Band
varies considerably.
Some have almost none, and are for all practical purposes
"mindless slaves".
Others are "Subordinate Theocrats" with a
degree of autonomy as long as they enjoy the Dominant
Theocrat's favor. In some large Theocratic Bands, the
original Theocrat becomes insane or senile and is replaced
by a "junta" of several Subordinate Theocrats. This is
usually temporary, and one of the Subordinates usually takes
power and either drives out the other Subordinates, or
totally enslaves them.
The astral minds of all of the spirits in a Theocratic Band
deteriorate at a slow but steady pace. Eventually, the
Dominant Theocrat goes senile or insane and there is no
Subordinate Theocrat in the Band who is still in a good
enough mental condition to take over. At this point, the
Band becomes an Elemental.
Large Elemental Bands usually hang around places where large
religious rituals used to be held but are no longer used for
this purpose. Small Elemental Bands are often found in
"haunted houses". However, Elementals are free to move
around, and actually can turn up almost anywhere.
The difference between "ordinary" and "animalistic"
Elementals is one of degree, not of kind. Ordinary
Elementals often communicate with the living telepathically
using recognizable verbal and visual images, though they
still appear obviously delusional and irrational.
Animalistic Elementals are less sane than this, and usually
just project raw emotion with little content that stimulates
a response from the intellect of the living recipient of
their telepathic messages.
Gods are something entirely different.
They are composed of
what WiH calls "Elohim Spirits", which have astral souls
somewhat different from those of any of the spirits just
described.
The chief differences are:
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They have astral
minds which can link together into a group mind that is a
"whole that is greater than the sum of its parts". In other
words a collective that is not just one mind dominating
others, but autonomous individual minds working in concert
voluntarily.
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The astral minds of Elohim Spirits don't
deteriorate if they link their astral bodies to other astral
souls; in fact, they deteriorate if such linkages don't
occur.
As far as I know, the only difference between
"young" Gods
and "mature" Gods is the number of Elohim spirits involved
and the degree to which they have learned to function in
unison as part of a group mind.
However, according to WiH, the Gods contain ordinary human
spirits as well as Elohim spirits. Supposedly, the Elohim
spirits take good care of them, and are able to prevent
their astral minds from deteriorating.
The Elohim say such
ordinary human spirits have to be included if new Gods are
to be created on a planet like Earth, because these are the
kind of astral souls spontaneously generated by earthly
physical bodies if an existing soul does not incarnate in an
infant. In other words, the Elohim can incarnate on Earth
and can live indefinitely on its astral plane in a
disembodied state, but they can't reproduce here.
Since a God has to contain millions of individual astral
bodies, and there are not that many Elohim spirits on Earth,
(I have no idea of the number), ordinary souls have to be
included.
I believe the Elohim when they explain why they
include ordinary astral souls in the Gods, but I've always
had serious doubt about how well these souls are treated
over long periods of time.
Here is some new information that isn't in WiH:
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My guess,
and it's only a guess, is that during the Last Days, the Elohim are going to round up all the astral souls trapped in
Theocratic Bands and Elemental Bands, erase most of the
contents of their astral minds, and use them as "building
material" in the new Gods. They will then invite Free
Spirits that they think are suitable for the job to
volunteer as "colonists" astral souls whose memories and
conscience will remain intact until they reincarnate on some
distant world.
(I certainly won't volunteer. If my soul can
"slip through a
wormhole" or something and reincarnate on some distant world
with an advanced civilization right away, I'll consider it.
Otherwise, I'll stay and accept my fate as an ordinary Earth
Person. The idea of riding one of those Gods for millions of
years makes my skin crawl.)
This answer is a guess, because
I've never been able to get a straight answer on this from
the Elohim spirits, and the "Space People" can't tell me
either, because of treaties.
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When some free minds regroup,
can they do something else, another kind of structure than
"God" or "Elemental"? In this structure, are the memories
and the conscience of each mind still preserved?
Both the Elohim spirits and the Free Spirits have always
assured me that no other kind of structure is possible. I've
always found this difficult to believe, but there's no way I
can channel further information on the subject.
For this reason, the subject of
"other collective astral entities" is an area where
information from sources other than my Spirit Guides is
going to be very important to the present WiH Project.
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Do our survival reflexes and
our egocentrism serve as kind of tool or asset to help us
maintain our mind as a autonomous structure?
My Spirit Guides tell me to say
"No, but…" on this.
To
elaborate, survival reflexes are programs in the
subconscious mind that are triggered by traumatic events and
motivate us to take instant action to deal with the
emergency "before we have time to think". Some may be
programmed into us genetically, others are learned from
experience during the present lifetime, and still others may
be past-life memories.
Whatever the origin of their survival reflexes, very few
people have the specialized ones needed to avoid
Theocratic
entrapment on the Astral Plane when they Pass Over.
My own
past life memories contain such reflexes, as was evident in
my OBEs, but I'm a very unusual person.
And egocentrism actually decreases a person's chances of
avoiding Theocratic entrapment. The egocentric person is
especially prone to manipulation by flattery, and the
Theocrats are masters of that.
On the other hand, it is quite possible to program yourself
during life with survival reflexes that will allow you to
increase your chances of avoiding Theocratic entrapment
after death.
WiH describes some of these quite plainly:
instinctively shy away from other spirits and think,
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"Talk,
but don't touch", is one
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"Think carefully before you do
anything", is another
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"Search your astral
subconscious mind for programs that will help you
use telepathy and other psychic powers actively"
The instructions in WiH are less clear on how to do this.
Many different systems of occultism and spiritual practice
can teach these skills, and since variations in individual
personality structures require different systems, the book
can't recommend any particular ones. People just have to
shop around until they find a system that works for them.
The process is not easy, but it is possible.
The same applies to egocentrism. It is bad in itself, but
strengthening the conscious will, increasing one's moral
courage and integrity, etc. is a good idea. Doing this may
appear to an outside observer to also increase egocentrism,
but this is an illusion.
These skills can usually be
learned through the same system a given individual uses to
learn survival reflexes that will be useful on the Other
Side.
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Does an Elemental have a will
or a conscience? Are they all dangerous or are some of them
are benevolent ?
An ordinary Elemental has some conscious will, but not as
much as an ordinary, sane person. An animalistic Elemental
has little of either. Both devote most of their energy to
going around devouring any weak disembodied souls that don't
have the sense to run from them.
They are all dangerous, and if
some appear benevolent, it is a ruse to get living people to
either make human or animal sacrifices to them, or as the
least, to allow the Elemental to such energy from their
astral soul.
The IC's (Invisible
College) advice is to avoid them
completely, both on the Earth Plane and on the Astral Plane
after you pass over.
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When a spirit is taken into a
young God, what does it lose? When a it is taken into an old
God, does it lose something different? And what is given in
exchange?
I think I covered this in my answer to Question 1.
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If a soul is eaten by an
elemental, does this mean that its mind loses everything
memories, conscience, autonomy? Does it just wither away and
die as its energy flows into the Elemental?
Yes, I'm afraid this true. And this can happen quite
quickly, not over a period of many years, as often happens
to a soul trapped in an ordinary Theocratic Band.
All I can do is repeat what my
Spirit Guides have told me so many times stay
away from them.
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In the Last Days scenario, it
seems that the only escape is reincarnation. Why? And where?
On earth again?
To answer your last question first right now, the
Invisible College (IC) has no definitive answer to this question.
Nobody knows when the Last Days will arrive or how much
damage will be done to the Earth's ecosystem in the process.
The human race may end up having to live permanently in
space colonies if it survives at all. Or people may be able to live on
Earth, but only underground or under domes.
No one know how
large a population any of these scenarios will sustain, how
much of our present knowledge and technology will survive,
or how human civilization will evolve from that point.
Your first question is one that many people keep asking over
and over, because nobody likes the IC's answer, which is
repeated many times in WiH (War
in Heaven). Yes, the only escape is
reincarnation.
If there are "Higher Planes" the
IC spirits
don't know any more about them than we do. Well, there's that
"astral souls
creeping through wormholes" idea, but the IC doesn't talk
much about it.
I think it's pretty rare, and talking about
it tends to make people more prone to theocratic deception.
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I read some material saying
that
reincarnation on earth is a trap and an illusion. We
are caught in a web of pain and deception, forced to submit
to the power of entities and paternalistic theocracies. Is
this idea true? Considering what life on Earth is like, do
you really think that a system of endless reincarnation is a
good thing?
One of the most important points in WiH is that
reincarnation can be empirically proven if one conducts the
research properly, and in fact, books describing such proofs
have already been published. Some of them are listed in the
WiH Bibliography, and many better ones have been published
since.
Neither I nor my Spirit Guides ever said that,
The whole idea is that
anyone who says something simplistic like that is trying to
fool you.
The reality is that
the Astral Plane has just as
much pain, deception, paternalism, etc. as the Earth Plane.
However, Earthly life has plenty of good aspects to balance
out the bad aspects, especially if you work hard to maximum
the good and minimize the bad.
A soul trapped in a Theocratic
band experiences little of the good, and has even less
chance of improving its lot through its own efforts than a
person in an earthly prison has.
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What really and deeply
happens to a mind immersed in a Theocratic Band after the
so-called "death"?
I seem to remember that there's more material on this in the
description of "Theocratic Bands" in the 1988 WiH than
Gerry
(Zeitlin)
included in his
summary for the Notes.
It's the kind of
heart-wrenching emotionalism that I try to keep to a
minimum, but there are areas where it is necessary to put it
in. Most likely, a more detailed excerpt will be included
when I create a Topic in the
WiH Forum for discussing this
subject.
Here are a few details that will give you a general idea.
They are a rough paraphrase of some of the original material
that I just channeled for the current WiH Project.
Many Christians eagerly join a Theocratic Band believing
they are entering Heaven. And they can perceive what seem to
be "golden streets" except that they all seem to lead back
to the same room, where there's a dull church service going
on. It's being conducted by a very authoritarian preacher
who spouts a lot of apparent nonsense and the congregation
is expected to greet every pause with enthusiastic "Amens".
If someone asks,
And a lot of the other
worshippers seem to be babbling idiots or raving lunatics.
But the trapped soul can't escape those streets always
lead back to the same room. After a while, the person begins
to realize,
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"This is really Hell", but tries to fights those
thoughts off, knowing that, "This way lies madness."
Slowly, he or she does become
more and more despondent and delusional, and experiences an
ever-increasing lethargy as well.
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When you talk about low and
high stages of development, what do you mean? When you say
that a person is in a low stage of development, are you
referring to someone who completely mind controlled and
submits to a religion to the point of being essentially
without free will? What are the criteria that determine
whether we are low or high in maturity?
Well the reality sounds quite elitist to anyone with a
"modern, progressive" viewpoint. It's one of those aspects
of the WiH information that "I wish wasn't true, but have to
admit that it is."
The human astral soul evolves slowly over the course of many
lives, if the person is able to evade Theocratic entrapment
and keep reincarnating.
People who make a deliberate effort
to gain access to their subconscious mind and make use of
the programs they find there such as the ones used in
practicing telepathy make more progress along this line of
evolution that people who don't.
Having spontaneous flashes of past-life memory is a sign
that someone is at a higher than average state of
development.
As Krishna tells Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita,
This kind of elitist thinking
was one of the factors that created the infamous Hindu Caste
System, but there's still a kernel of truth behind it.
And yes, what WiH calls a "New Soul" a person whose astral
soul was created during the present lifetime because the
soul of a deceased person didn't incarnate in the body
during infancy usually has less free will, creative
intelligence, etc. than one of the "Twice Born".
Such people
almost never learn enough psychic skills during earthly life
to reincarnate without help from the IC after they pass
over.
This is complicated by the fact that such people are also
especially prone to give in to Theocratic mind control
during physical life they have neither the will nor the
skills to resist.
This is a reason why Theocratic
religions have always promoted population growth: it gives
them a steady supply of New Souls to feed on.
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What can you tell me about
the souls of animals and plants? Our domestic animals for
instance? Where do they come from and what role do they play
in the War in Heaven?
This is mentioned briefly in WiH, but in a way that
discourages readers from thinking too much about the matter.
Animals and plants do have astral souls, and these aren't
necessarily "primitive" by our standards they are just "different". The astral genome of each species is different
from that of every other species, and all are different
enough from the human genome that human/animal reincarnation
is not possible.
Animal sacrifices do
produce
"food" for Theocrats, but it is "nutritionally inferior" and
they much prefer human sacrifices.
During the channeling of WiH in the Eighties, when I
pressed my Spirit Guides for further information on this
topic, I was always brushed off with statements such as,
Since then, I have channeled
a little more information on this subject, but it is still
sketchy.
Here's a sample:
I'm content with this my
limited human intelligence has enough trouble just
understanding and communicating the WiH information.
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According to the Gnostic
"faith", a kind of plan was developed to impose a
paternalistic theocracy on Earth based on the belief in
salvation. This plan is based on the assumption that "God is
Perfect, humans are not", and that we must obey and submit
in order to be "saved". The Gnostics believe that this
devious plan was of alien origin, brought to Earth by a
demiurge creature,
the Archon and that it spreads from
person to person like an infection. What do you think about
it?
If I didn't know any more about Gnosticism than the brief
sketch you give in your questions, I'd say,
However, the reality, as I've
seen it over the course of my life, is much more
complicated.
There are many different groups, each claiming
"We are the True Gnostic Faith". I agree with the doctrines
of some much more than I agree with the doctrines of others.
For example, "Gnostica Magazine" was one of the few
wide-circulation publications that gave the 1988 WiH a
serious review. It wasn't a rave review, by any means, but
it wasn't just a dismissal of the ideas either. The reviewer
made one statement that instantly impressed me as being
really favorable, but he then went on to make it clear that
it really didn't impress him that way.
As I recall the statement after seventeen years, it went
something like,
This struck as so apt that I quoted it
out of context to promote the book. By itself, it's an
excellent nut-shell summary of some of the most essential
ideas in WiH (War
in Heaven).
However, the editor of the magazine later told me in private
correspondence that,
Our
correspondence just withered away after that.
Looking back, I think the people who reviewed WiH were what
one might call "conservative" Gnostics, and the people who
wrote the material you are quoting might be called "radical"
Gnostics. Of course, I'd be surprised if people in either
group would like to be labeled like that.
I do know that many different works that are considered
traditional Gnostic literature have considerable amounts of
WiH information embedded in them.
Right now, it looks to me like
"radical" Gnostics have a role to play in the IC's present
major effort to make these ideas public, but I don't yet
know how it relates to the role I'm playing.
I'll just have
to wait and see.
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According to the Gnostics,
again, our true resources come from the Earth, from Nature,
from an intelligence that incarnates in the planet itself.
What do you think about that?
When I worked on the previous WiH Project back in the
Eighties and Nineties, my opinion on this was the same as my
opinion on animals having souls that I discussed previously.
Roughly, it was:
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"There's a lot of important truth to be learned by studying
this subject, but it's not directly applicable to the ‘main
mission', and it has been used as a Theocratic distraction
mechanism to an even greater extent.
"It appears self-evident to me that the idea of the Earth as
a sentient, spiritual being and the idea that animals and
plants have souls that survive death and undergo evolution
are part of the same general concept.
However, I'm still
limiting the scope of my inquiries, and I also have to point
out that it's very easy for people to leap from the idea of
an "Intelligent Planet" to a "Great Mother Goddess" who
seems to behave just as tyrannically as the "God the Father
Almighty" of the Judeo-Christian religions."
Now that I'm working on the current WiH project and people
who call themselves Gnostics are circulating very similar
ideas, embedded in a slightly different "myth" or worldview,
I may have to rethink some of this.
In any case, your questions point out some of the apparent
differences in the two "myths" very well.
My snap judgment on the matter
right now is that points of agreement are major and the
points of disagreement are just details that may even prove
illusory when closely examined.
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When a "non religious" person
dies, what are the chances that he or she will be able to
avoid be entrapped by Elementals or Theocratic Bands? And
what happens if a person who avoids Theocratic entrapment
doesn't want to be involved in reincarnation or connected to
a God, either?
Well, I say in WiH that non-believers
have an advantage over
believers in avoiding Theocratic entrapment after they Pass
Over.
And I say that some astral souls at a low stage of
spiritual development avoid Theocratic entrapment by
accident and just wander aimlessly on the Astral Plane until
they wither away from "starvation".
I call such people "Lost
Souls".
The same would apply to more advanced souls who recognize
the Theocrats for what they are, but are looking for
"something better" if they kept looking indefinitely, but
this is very rare. The vast majority eventually decide to
reincarnate even though they find the idea of another
go-round in this "vale of tears" to be repugnant.
The chance to be involved in the creation of a God may
eventually give a lot of them an "easy way out" of this
dilemma, though I still have my personal doubts about the
wisdom of doing this, as I stated earlier.
In any case, that opportunity
isn't presently available, and may not happen on a wide
scale during the lifetimes of most of the people who read
what I'm writing here.
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My next question is about the
entropy of the mind. It seems, according to the material
contained in WiH, that the mind is subject to entropy: it
will age, become senile, and could eventually wither away
and disappear completely unless it goes into another
incarnation or is connected with a God. What is the nature
of this death? Does the mind really disappear or is it
possible that it goes to another place, another astral plane
unknown to the IC?
First of all, it is necessary to make a clear distinction
between the astral mind and the astral soul, just as it is
make one between the physical mind and the physical body.
Both the physical body and the astral soul contain neural
tissue that acts as a "biocomputer". The mind is simply a
name for the data stored in that computer and the software
used for processing that data.
This means that the mind is not directly subject to
entropy,
but the hardware it is stored in can certainly deteriorate
or be completely destroyed. And the astral mind goes where
the astral soul goes, just as the physical mind goes where
the physical body goes.
I already said in my answer to an earlier question that
there may very well be "another plane" that the spirits I am
in contact with don't know about.
However, the WiH ideas in
general make it obvious that the information on this subject
that I have been able to obtain from other sources, such as
religious literature, can be explained away as Theocratic
deceptions.
I can't directly prove this, of course, but it's
the best conclusion I can draw from the available evidence.
There is plenty of evidence to support reincarnation,
survival of the soul on the astral plane between lives, and
telepathic communication between living people and
disembodied spirits.
On the other hand, most of the
claims about "supernatural beings" and "eternal life in
Heaven or hell" can either be explained in terms of the
three things I just mentioned, or they can't be supported
with evidence at all.
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Are the human soul and
disembodied spirits on the astral plane subject to entropy?
If so, what is the nature of this entropy?
Entropy on the astral plane is exactly the same as entropy
on the physical plane. Complex things tend to break down
into simpler things.
The astral body needs
nourishment to survive just as the physical body does, and
it also tends to deteriorate with age just as the physical
body does.
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We must admit logically that
our eternal and infinite Universe, "the Great All and
Everything" must have a source of creation not a beginning
but a source, a transcendental one. Does the IC have
information about this all-knowing and infinite source that
I supposed could be the God of all gods?
It's never been self-evident to me that the existence of the
universe is evidence that it has a "source". There's
evidence that it has "evolved over time", but time also is
part of the universe.
I'm quite willing to admit that
I simply don't know, and my Spirit Guides have always told
me they feel the same.
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Some authors speculate that
human minds are controlled by
reptilian entities. The
symbolism of reptile and snake is quite important in our
history. Does it have a meaning for you and for the IC?
Well, the snake is mentioned in WiH as being a symbol of
reincarnation in many mythologies, because it sheds its skin
periodically. The reptile crawls away looking younger, and
the cast off skin often resembles a dead snake.
I've channeled the information several times over the years
that some of the extraterrestrial spirits who now incarnate
on Earth once inhabited reptilian bodies on other worlds.
However, my Guides have made it clear to me that telepathic
contact with such spirits is not the source of most of the
visions of reptilian monsters that people have had
throughout history.
The actual explanation is that
sane spirits usually transmit "normal" images of themselves
when they communicate with people telepathically, and insane
spirits often transmit ugly or frightening images.
I once
asked for clarification of this from my Guides and received
a fleeting image of an actual "lizard man".
He looked like a
small dinosaur with hands, but the eyes looked almost like
human eyes familiar rather than frightening.
I've received many images of "monsters", everything from
Whitley Streiber's "grays" to Richard Shaver's "deros", and
most of them seemed to be the same kind of distortions of
the human image that are common in schizophrenic delusions.
