July 21, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Terry, Jan

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us tonight?
A: Vimon.

Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Is there any sinister intent toward me by AJ? His thoughts toward me?
A: Too many, fragmented.

Q: (L) His thoughts?
A: No. Your questions.

Q: (L) Okay, more specific: I am having a dialogue with a man who contacted me via the internet.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And it seems that there are a lot of synchronous events happening in conjunction with this.
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Is it possible that some of these seemingly synchronous events are being created to deceive me?
A: Sure it is possible!

Q: (L) What does AJ feel toward me.
A: “Feel” is not the point!

Q: (L) What is the point? What are his intentions?
A: Multiple.

Q: (L) Could you tell me at least two primary ones?
A: No we will not.

Q: (L) Can you give me any of them?
A: How do you learn?

Q: (L) I know. But, I am also somewhat fragile and don’t want to dive into the soup!
A: By using the powers existent within your mind, which are unlimited, as we have told you.

Q: (L) I know you are not going to give me a roadmap, but you can give me a hint! What are the extent of the hints you can give me about this?
A: One and only hint: always transcribe and review material from the sessions if you wish to learn properly, and avoid possibly fatal mistakes!!!
 

Q: (L) So, that is the one and only hint. I will start back on the transcribing.
A: Little by little makes a seemingly daunting task seem effortless. Learning is enhanced by timeless, enhanced pondering.

Q: (L) How do you enhance pondering?
A: With patience... You see, Laura, it is better to be the tortoise than the
hare!

Q: (L) Why did my air conditioner break down today when I was talking about the heat to AJ?
A: Maybe it is time to enhance your pondering. Drastic measures are only necessary when one’s stubbornness places one upon the precipice!
 

Q: (L) Well, if you guys did that, I hope you thought of the fact that there won’t be any sessions until it gets fixed!
A: Do we need sessions?!?

Q: (L) No, you don’t, but don’t we?
A: What good are they when the messages are lost?

Q: (J) What is the significance of Terry’s and my presence here tonight? Is it significant?
A: Yes! And road maps available at the Mobil station.

Q: (L) Well, we’re glad to see you!
A: Thank you! And likewise.

Q: (J) Well, how about a hint?
A: Answers are known. Doubt is sometimes relieved by pause.

Q: (J) Well, I think we ought to take a hiatus and get all the sessions transcribed.
A: Do it step by step. Do not attempt a marathon here. “Time” is not of the essence!

Q: (L) Well, then I will just do them as I go along, is that what you mean?
A: Partially. You need review, study, contemplation.

Q: (L) What I need is a vacation and less stress!
A: We would say that too! There are untold treasure troves locked up in those transcripts. You will be “blown away” by that which you have forgotten!!

Q: (L) Well, then we have a plan! Carry on!
A: Okay, folks, good night!

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July 27, 1996

Freddie, Laura

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Wonikha.

Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) I am worried about A. Is she alright?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will she be home soon?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Well, I worry about her lately.
A: She must experience that which she must experience.

Q: (L) That’s true for everyone, even children.
A: Sort of.

Q: (L) I have been going crazy wondering about AJ. Can I please ask some questions?
A: You may ask whatever you wish.

Q: (L) Well, one day it is one way, and I think I know what is happening, and the next day it is like something grips him and the whole mood changes. Can you tell me what is going on?
A: Why?

Q: (L) What is it that I said that caused him to be so cool to me?
A: Are you learning.

Q: (L) Probably. I think I am. But what is in his mind? What have I said or done?
A: Not important.

Q: (L) What is important here? Is it important at all?
A: Wait and see.

Q: (L) Is there anything I can ask? What is going on with me? I am an emotional wreck... Is the past life connection that I perceive part of this?
A: Do you learn when we lead you by the hand? You have all the necessary tools to discover this.

Q: (L) Well, I thought YOU were one of those tools! That you are here to help us...
A: But not by giving the answers to “Level One” questions.

Q: (L) Just one thing I would like to know is, what is the source of this emotional energy that is practically tearing me apart? Is it coming from outside or inside me?
A: The one thing we would like to know is: how much transcribing have you been doing?

Q: (L) I have been going through the notebooks and reading, I have been sorting things... I am getting ready to start typing...
A: The “answers” are there.

Q: (L) Well, one thing I came across was a mention almost two years again that something would happen, and one would have instant recognition, but the others may doubt. For me, it was instant recognition. But, recognition, by definition, is to know someone again. So, I think maybe that you were using the term recognition because you were talking about a person and not an event, necessarily.
A: And learning helps you in immeasurable ways.

Q: (L) One last question, if there is a question that I could ask, to which I could receive a clue, consider it asked... I am baffled!
A: Baffled yes, but buffeted, no.

Q: (L) So, I am not being buffeted by something outside, I am being baffled from inside.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is AJ taking energy from me in some way?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Is that all you can give me?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) What are his thoughts and intentions toward me?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, you have answered this kind of question before! You have told me about so many other people! How come you won’t answer me about him?
A: It is not appropriate.

Q: (L) Why is it not appropriate? I am just trying to understand! I am in such a whirlwind inside... pleeeeeease....
A: Wait and see.

Q: (L) Does that mean good or bad?
A: It means what is Anna doing with those those keys?

Q: (L) What are you talking about? Anna doesn’t have any keys!? I am exhausted, and you are being too obscure. Is there some clue as to how to conduct myself. Is he in any danger by talking about coming here?
A: No more than usual.

Q: (L) He believes that we can do things, that they can be done, that we can have a positive effect.
A: Then focus on that!

Q: (L) Well, how did we get sidetracked on this other thing? Is that a form of attack?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Well, I don’t want to put him in any danger.
A: There are ways.

Q: (L) Is there anything we can do with this gravity wave business? He is also very interested in this.
A: Then work on that with him!! Review the transcripts and that which has not yet transcribed.

Q: (L) Okay. I will start.
A: But slowly.

Q: (L) Okay, slowly but surely. And I am tired. So, good night and sorry this was such a short visit.
A: Short but sweet. Good night.

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August 3, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Terry, Jan

Q: (T) I think we ought to take a road trip.
(L) Where to?
(T) Down to
Homestead, the Coral Castle.
(L) Yes, I want to do that too. Okay, Hello!
A: Hello.

Q: What name will we use tonight?
A: Jopoye.

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Before I give up the floor to everyone else, I would like to know if you have any comment about AJ? My experience here is so strange, and I don’t want to be caught in a trap...
A: New.

Q: (L) New what? What does that mean?
A: What it is.




Q: (T) New as in “renewed?”
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Beginning?
A: See how one simple word causes you to use your minds?

Q: (T) Yes.
A: And if we had given you a long and eloquent response, as you desired, you would not have!

Q: (L) Any more words on this subject?
A: No, thank you!

Q: (L) Let me just ask this ONE LITTLE THING... I am trying so hard to restrain myself - like the tortoise - but sometimes I am overwhelmed. Can you advise me on my conduct? It is such a struggle...
A: Discover.

Q: (L) AJ used some of the material in a lecture today, given in Germany. Were you aware of this?
A: Aware, yes.

Q: (L) I wonder if he is one of the less than 100 “aware ones” on the planet that you have told us about?
A: You have just said too much for us to answer.

Q: (L) Because it would violate free will?
A: Or because it was “mishmash.”

Q: (L) Okay. No more questions for me! They aren’t going to tell me anything anyway! That is clear!
A: Oh yeah?

Q: (L) So, what are you going to tell me?
A: Discover!

Q: (T) Okay, word association. What words will get the answers we are looking for?
A: Sensible questions.

Q: (L) Well, you ask the questions, T.
(T) I am often at a loss as to what to ask. I am never sure whether I am asking dumb questions or smart questions.
A: We will let you know.

Q: (T) I want to ask a personal question to start with. As you know, we have been proceeding in our campaign against the construction of a cellular tower across the street from us. We are feeling good about it. Shall we continue with what we are doing, in the way we are doing it? I don’t know exactly how to ask this so you won’t answer “discove, open, up to you, or whatever.”
(L) All of the above, Terry. You just answered your own question!
A: What you are doing is what you must do, or you would not be doing it!

Q: (T) Well, we are having fun, and it is helping our neighbors.
A: Instincts guide one to lessons.

Q: (L) This is kind of an off-the-wall question that just popped into my head. Did we ever ask anything about Hale- Bopp?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is Hale-Bopp going to turn planet Earth into a super- conductor?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is Hale-Bopp the herald of the transition into 4th density?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is Hale-Bopp going to do anything other than pass by with a nice night-time show?
A: No.

Q: (T) Is all the brouhaha over Hale-Bopp a smoke screen?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, what is it then?
A: Hale-Bopp: Flopp!

Q: (T) Oh! The Kahoutek of the nineties!
(J) The cosmic OJ Simpson trial! Something to keep us busy...
A: Since you have broached the subject: are you familiar with the “twin sun”
theory?

Q: (L) No. What is it?
(T) Referring to our sun and the possibility of Jupiter being a sun in the making?
A: No.

Q: (T) Okay, what is the twin sun theory?
A: Theory that the sun is really a double star.

Q: (L) Well, if it is a double star, how come we don’t see the other one? Where is the other one and why don’t we see it?
(T) I don’t think I have ever heard of that, have you?
(F) It seems vaguely familiar for some reason.
(L) Is this factual, correct?
A: Wait a moment...

Q: (T) They are bringing in their twin sun expert...
(L) No doubt! [planchette spins numerous times.]
A: Now, where were we?

Q: (L) We were talking about the twin sun phenomenon...
A: Theory.

Q: (T) Which is that sol is one part of a twin system?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this theory correct?
A: Not yet, you are “jumping the gun.”

Q: (T) Okay. You brought this up. You indicated that, yes, our sun is one part of a dual system...
A: Yes...

Q: (T) ...and that there is another star, another sun here...
A: Yes...

Q: (L) Can we see it?
(T) Can we see it at this point in time?
A: Can you?

Q: (L) No. Not that I am aware of. Is the reason we cannot see it because it is always on the other side of the sun from us? That it orbits in such a way that we can never see it?
A: Orbits, yes, assuming it is there, however, we did not confirm that, now did
we?

Q: (L) No, you didn’t, but you DID bring it up!
(T) Let’s go back to the beginning. Okay, you brought up the twin sun theory and then indicated that our sun is one of two suns in this solar system...
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) The sun that we designate as sol is one member...
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) Is Sol two stars combined?
A: No. What is “dark” matter, and what are dark stars?

Q: (L) Are dark stars something like black holes?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they...
(T) I think it would be a star that has collapsed upon itself and the gravitational field of the star no longer allows light to escape.
A: No.

Q: (T) Okay, that is a black hole.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Dark matter, that I have read about, is what the astronomical community calls all the loose stuff floating around out in the cosmos that must exist because of the equations, but they can’t see it.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Would dark stars be part of this?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) So there is dark matter and dark stars?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) The dark matter they cannot see because it is dark.
A: Yes. How about “Brown stars?”

Q: (T) Okay, Brown stars I have heard of. There is yellow, red, blue, green... Okay, our star burns as a yellow star because of the matter it is composed of - hydrogen, etc.
A: Close.

Q: (T) Other stars burn different colors in the visible spectrum because of the make-up of the star...
A: Yes, but not “brown” ones.

Q: (T) Brown ones are not brown because of the make-up...
A: Okay, you have white, red, yellow, and blue...

Q: (L) Do those colors represent temperature?
A: Partially, but that is not the point!

Q: (L) Is Hale-Bopp a brown star?
A: No.

Q: (T) No. Hale-Bopp has nothing to do with this discussion. Hale-Bopp is just another flop. Okay, Brown stars. The colors we see are part temperature and part material...
(L) How about the spectral shift which determines direction?
A: Yes, but that is not the point!

Q: (L) What is the point of a brown star? Black body...
A: No, silly! Try the most obviously apparent.

Q: (L) Well, is it one that just hasn’t started cooking yet?
A: Opposite.

Q: (L) Okay, it has burned so long it is about to run out of gas?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) It is running out of matter that gives it color?
A: Why did we put “brown” in quotes?

Q: (L) Because a brown star is assumed to be one that is burning out, but is the opposite?
A: No.

Q: (L) Because... I don’t know.
A: How easy is it to see brown against a black background?

Q: (T) Not easy at all! That is why they can’t see the dark matter...
A: That is why scientists dubbed it “brown.”

Q: (L) How does brown star connect to twin sun theory?
A: Guess!

Q: (T) Okay. Let’s talk about this. For some reason we have to work through this to maintain free will.
(L) Is this star small enough that it is orbiting with the planets?
A: No, we are leading you to something, if you will be patient.

Q: (L) Okay, lead on... we want to know about this.
(T) They just asked if we understood what a brown star was.
A: Do you?

Q: (L) What is the significance of the brown star?
A: Dark star.

Q: (L) It is a dark star... okay...
A: If it is there.

Q: (L) Well, will you put me out of my misery and tell me?
(T) Wait, a dark star is dark because it doesn’t give off light. It is still a star, and acts like a star...
A: Yes. And if it has an elliptical orbit... would it, maybe, like, “come and go?”

Q: (T) What science, astronomy, has described as double stars, are two stars that are close together with some sort of interactive orbit. But that is not necessarily the only way two stars can exist.
A: Close. As you perceive from your vantage point. But how would you like to embark on a bicycle trip between them?

Q: (L) So the ones that we are aware of and see can be so far apart that there can be a lot between...
(T) So our astronomers have not recognized this possibility?
A: Yes they have.

Q: (T) They know, but don’t talk about it. So, we may have, in this theory, a dark star orbiting...
A: And what would happen if you did?

Q: (L) Well...
A: And it, like, comes and goes?

Q: (T) Like every 3600 years?
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) And maybe this dark star also has some planets orbiting it?
A: Ok, change of direction: Oort cloud and comet cluster and sun twin occasionally passing through the former like a bowling ball through pins.
 

Q: (L) How does the dark star passing through the Oort cloud relate to the comet cluster?
A: Cause and effect.

Q: (L) So, the comet cluster is caused by the dark star smashing through the Oort cloud?
(T) Well, not necessarily smashing, but passing close enough for its gravity to change things...
(L) But they said “like a bowling ball through pins.”
(T) The gravity of that star would cause the comets to be flung in all directions.
(J) Is the earth like a pin? A bowling pin?
(L) No, that’s the Oort Cloud.
A: Explain what the Oort Cloud is, Laura.

Q: (L) Does everybody know what the Oort Cloud is?
(J) I don’t. [explanation of Oort cloud.] Okay, so we are looking at something...
A: Now, think of how your Biblical prophecies speak of a very terrifying period, followed by an apparent renewal of normalcy, followed by the “End.”
 

Q: (T) We learned about a “comet cluster” very early on. Now you are going beyond that and giving us a reason as to why this comet cluster...
A: Laura, please clarify exactly what the prophecies say.

Q: (L) Well, actually, “The Noah Syndrome” is primarily prophetic exegesis with a little science thrown in to help clarify why such occurrences must be along a “natural” order. [Discussion of primary passages in “Noah.”] In the prophecies it is said: “If those days were not shortened, would no flesh be saved. But, for the elects’ sake, will those days be shortened.” Now, can you tell me what this means?
A: Not yet.

Q: (T) Where are we? We have a dark star flinging comets like bowling pins...
A: Your Biblical prophecies speak of a period of terror and chaos followed by
calm, and then, unexpectedly, amidst seeming overwhelming peace and renewal and prosperity, the end.

Q: (L) Okay, elucidate, please.
A: No, you elucidate, please!

Q: (L) Okay, I would say that this “end” is the passing through the “realm border,” the “wave.”
A: Yes, but don’t you know of the prophecies we are referencing?

Q: (L) Are you talking about the Epistle of Peter where it says the heavens will end with a thunderous crash and the earth will burn up with fire?
A: No.

Q: (L) Thank God! Are you talking about the book of Daniel where a number is given regarding the time period between the one event and the other?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Okay. I know where to go to find it and study it. So, we are talking
about the number 6.3, as in years?
A: Yes, but that is not correct.

Q: (T) The number of years is not correct.
(L) Okay, is it possible, since you have brought this up on other occasions, through technology, to either skip this event by creating a means of travel to the next realm, or to create a parallel universe...
A: No.

Q: (L) Well one thing we can establish...
A: What would happen if the brown star that is the sun’s twin were to get close enough to be illuminated by the sun?

Q: (T) Well, if it were close enough to be illuminated, the obvious result is that it would be SEEN. People would panic...
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Governments would fall...
A: And terror and chaos. And when it departs again?

Q: (L) Everything will seem to be fine! But, they won’t realize that the Oort cloud has been hit! Oh, sugar!
A: And then what?

Q: (L) It is not the Oort cloud or the comets that is going to cause all this terror and carrying on, it is going to be the seeing of the illuminated brown star, which will go away, and then no one will see what is coming! And this IS talked about in both the Bible and Nostradamus - but it was incomprehensible before! Okay, how long will it take the comets to get from the Oort cloud to here?
A: Let us just say that the cluster travels much faster than the usual cometary itinerary.

Q: (T) And this is because they are traveling in the wake of a large sun sized gravity well...
A: And we have spoken of the comet cluster before, and we have told you that this time, it rides the Wave.

Q: (L) Is the wave the energy from this brown star?
A: No.

Q: (L) The Wave is the Wave.
(T) So, the dark star is going to come through the Oort cloud, and it doesn’t have to get too close. Any star that gets that close is TOO close. Its gravity will propel these comets in our direction. And, on top of that, they are being propelled by the Wave from behind, so they are being both pulled and pushed.
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they being “kicked” and then they get on the wave that is already on the move?
A: Yes. This time. You have had the comet cluster before in antiquity, but the wave was last here aeons ago.

Q: (L) Is this wave a gravity wave?
A: Interrelated.

Q: (L) Okay, now...
(T) Well, the wave is a form of energy.
(L) Yes, they once told us that it was “hyper-kinetic sensate.”
A: Realm border, this is your quantum factor, Laura, so plug it into “Noah”
accordingly, and check out the results.

Q: (L) Does this brown or dark star have planetary bodies of its own, other than sharing planets with Sol?
A: No.

Q: (T) Okay. No correlation to Sitchen and his “planet Nibiru.”
(L) If the wave is the quantum factor for the transition of the Solar System, what is the factor for the transition of an atom?
A: Electrons emit what?

Q: (L) Photons...
(T) An electrical charge of some kind.
(L) I thought that an electron didn’t have any parts... that it is an elementary particle...
A: Right...

Q: (L) What the heck does an electron emit?
(T) An EM field?
A: What did we say about gravity? What did we say?!?

Q: (T) What was it?
(L) That gravity collects...
(T) What you were reading earlier...
A: Read it.

Q: [Reads segment from previous session about gravity.] (L) Is gravity emitted
by an electron?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What...
A: Electromagnetically.

Q: (L) What is it that causes a quantum transition? A collecting and dispersing
of gravity. What is it about an atom that causes it to collect or disperse?
A: How does the electron fit into the equation of the “atom?”

Q: (L) Well, it orbits the nucleus...
(T) Planets orbit the Sun.
(L) The energy that an electron collects, or any other part of an atom collects, that causes a quantum transition, comes to it from outside of it? A wave?
A: How many electrons orbit the nucleus?

Q: (L) It depends on the atom. The number of electrons determine what an atom is an atom of... the number of particles it has orbiting...
A: Yes.

Q: (T) And they orbit in specific shells...
A: Yes... And how does the sun relate to this macro- dynamically?

Q: (L) Okay, something from the nucleus of the atom acts upon the electrons to cause a transition?
A: How many electrons orbit the nucleus?

Q: (L) Of the sun? Are you asking how many electrons orbit the nucleus of the Sun? Different atoms have different numbers...
A: Of any atom?

Q: (L) Okay, it varies.
A: From what to what?

Q: (L) From one to somewhere in the nineties or hundreds...
A: And what determines the number?

Q: (L) Well, that is a damn good question!
(T) What makes one atom helium and one atom oxygen? How do they know how to become what they are?
A: No.

Q: (T) Well, what determines the number?
A: Is it the composition of the nucleus?

Q: (L) Yeah. That’s right. We forgot. What causes or determines the number of protons or whatever in the nucleus?
A: What composition would cause the orbiting of one electron?

Q: (L) One proton?
A: Now, think macro-dynamically.

Q: (L) Well, you once said that the sun is a window, or transition point to another density. Are you saying that the nucleus of an atom is also a window?
A: What we are saying is the sun is a proton and its twin is an electron!

Q: (L) Well, I am still trying to get at... the wave causes transitions in the macro-cosmic atom, what causes the microcosmic atom... what causes a quantum jump? What accumulates in an atom that causes it to transition?
(T) Is it a case of accumulation, or something being given off?
A: Completion of Grand Cycle.

Q: (J) It just is.
(L) No, no...
A: And who says that the Sun’s twin appears every 3600 years?

Q: (L) Okay, we have the 3600 year comet cluster cycle, the Sun twin is another cycle altogether, and then we have the wave, which is a Grand Cycle. So, we have three things causing a transition in nature?
A: Like “biorhythms.”

Q: (T) And we have a triple bad day coming up! Or a good day, depending on which way you look at it.
A: Bad day if you are John C. Rockefeller, good day if you are Mahatma Ghandi.

Q: (L) So, does something like a three cycle event also occur in sub-atomic transitions, like the biorhythm?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, there are three factors to be considered... or more than three?
A: Either, or.

Q: (L) Can it be a random, arbitrary number of events?
A: If you wish.

Q: (L) Is it partly the observer that adds one of the factors? Consciousness?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) So, we see three separate cycles coming together here...
A: Everything reflects macrodynamically and microdynamically. We suggest you absorb for now; and, fear not! For it is not imminent! Good Night.

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August 6, 1996

Freddie, Laura

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) And what name shall we use this evening?
A: Yont.

Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) I have several issues that are personal that I need to deal with at this time. Is that alright? I don’t want to go too far over the line.
A: Yes to statement 2.

Q: (L) What is going on with Susan and her sister?
A: Sister rules!

Q: (L) What is her sister’s objective in this destruction campaign against me and my mother?
A: Defensive.

Q: (L) Well, what in the world is she defending? No one is attacking her, and only what is fair, in fact LESS than fair is being sought! What is she defending against?
A: You,

Q: (L) Well, I cerainly don’t understand that! What have I done?
A: Not what you have done, what you appear to be doing.

Q: (L) And what is that?
A: Threatening some of her anticipated bonanza.

Q: (L) Is there any course I can take that will assist me in coming through with the least amount of damage.
A: Learning is sometimes difficult, but always necessary.

Q: (L) What am I learning from this particular situation except the fact that this is a family of the most horrible people I have ever encountered.
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, Susan’s sister has proven to be as ugly inside as she is outside. So, what am I learning? Give me a hint!
A: That would not be learning, but remember that no two individuals on 3rd density have or share the same point of view.

Q: (L) Well, that is fine and good. I just don’t understand. If I thought it was going to get worse that her calling every agency in town to have me investigated for everything from child abuse to income tax evasion, and this constant stream of investigators calling and coming to the house, I would know what action to take. As it is, everybody KNOWS what she is doing and why, and I have had to get letters written in my defense from all these people who know about the situation, which, of course, is no problem, but I just think that people who would sink as low as these two, who are working day and night it seems, to take food out of the mouths of my children, would not stop at physical violence. Do I need to have Chuck and Mike investigate them and watch them? I just don’t know! This woman is a lunatic. If this is the worst, it is okay, but if she is complete slime...
A: And...

Q: (L) I don’t get it! Is there a third option?
A: Options are unlimited.

Q: (L) Of course...
A: It is all free will.

Q: (L) I know that! And I am ignoring advice to report Sue to the State board and turn in this fraudulent statement which would cause her to lose her license...
A: All we can ever do is give you guidelines when it comes to matters of self which are generated by choice.

Q: (L) Okay, I am open to guidelines.
A: Your Bible states that the love of money is the root of all evil, and when it comes to battles involving the acquisition of money, one must never expect ease or pleasant circumstances.

Q: (L) Okay. I am not interested in battles. Is she doing this because she is angry that she OUGHT to pay, or is she angry personally at me, because she was ASKED to pay?
A: One encompasses the other.

Q: (L) Well, I am not going to battle. I had the whole thing set up so that NO ONE was going to lose anything.
A: Or the more unpleasant it is for you, the less you will like it.

Q: (L) I am in a situation where I am thinking I ought to just settle with the insurance company at whatever figure is on the table. Can you give me a time...
A: No. But know this: your attorneys love money!! And, they always want more
and more and more, even if it be to your detriment.

Q: (L) Would you suggest a settlement figure?
A: Up to you!!

Q: (L) Okay, that settles that in my mind. I will do nothing. They want to cause suffering, then I will do nothing, and let the universe answer it.
A: Not Susan, Sandy.

Q: (L) Well, the thing about it is, Susan could have done a LOT of things at any number of points to handle it, but her stubborn refusal to do anything that involved going against her programming and conditioning by these two witches of the world amounted to not lifting a finger...
A: And never does.

Q: (L) Fine. I guess that is what was meant by her “total undoing” if she did not overcome her deepseated stubbornness. That takes care of Sue. Now, can I ask something about my Arkadiusz?
A: If you wish.

Q: (L) I have been going over the transcripts, and have noticed some very interesting things were said at about the time of certain interactions that sort of mirrored things that were going on in his mind or life. All these strange things... So, I am just curious about all the projects that you have mentioned, will this come to fruition soon?
A: Maybe. But do not anticipate!

Q: (L) Does that mean I am going to be hurt or disappointed?
A: It means do not anticipate.

Q: (L) Could you tell me about any past life connections with him?
A: You are attempting to cheat!

Q: (L) Well, gosh! Is there anything you can tell me?
A: What have we said regarding learning and karma?!?

Q: (L) Well, gadzooks! I don’t think this is cheating: Ark has a friend named Jim. This fellow tells him a lot of really strange things...
A: Pay no attention.

Q: (L) Well, I don’t, but I can’t figure out if the guy is having some bleed through of good information, or if he is a neurotic or a psychotic or what?
A: Do you remember Aunt Clara?

Q: (L) Oh! On “Bewitched.”
A: About as accurate as Ceil Hoffman.

Q: (L) Well, that says a lot. I don’t guess you are going to give me any
clues...
A: How about a god spark or two?

Q: (L) Oh, Vanessa! [Laughter.] (F) Clearly you need to figure this one out on your own!
(L) But I want to know!!!
(F) But you CAN’T know! The future is fluid!
(Laura) Anything?
A: No.

Q: (L) Okay. Thank you and good night.
A: Good night.

End of Session

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August 11, 1996

Laura, Fred, Terry & Jan

Q: Hello
A: Hoparb

Q: And where are you transmitting from tonight?
A: Cassiopaea

Q: (L) I want to ask a real quick question first, and then just kind of leave everything else open for whatever else can happen. On several occasions with my conversations with Arkadiusz in Poland, and in Germany and in Florence, there have been some real serious computer problems. I would like to know if there is any connection between myself and these electronic failures?
A: If we answer this, you will not limit it to one question.

Q: (L) Do I have to limit it to one question?
(J) You said you would..
A: You placed that restriction upon yourself: Its not nice to fool mother nature, or the Cassiopaeans!!

Q: (L) All right, well let it go until it runs out. Is there some energy interaction that’s causing these electronic failures? Is there an indication of some...
A: Yes, and “it just ran out.”

Q: (L) What just ran out?
(T) The question string.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) You said you’d let it run out, and it just ran out!
(J) They’re playful tonight!
(L) OOOH! So, yes, there’s a connection, and that’s all I get!
(J) Hoisted upon your own petard, as they say! (T) Mirth! Mirth!
A: Bingo!

Q: (L) Stinkers, stinkers! OK...
(T) Shall we run like we did last week, and just let them...
A: You would have asked 29 questions about you and “Ark,” and that is a “No-No.”

Q: (T) Ah, but would she have asked the 64,000 dollar question in there somewhere?
A: Yes!

Q: (J) And what would the answer have been!?!? [laughter]
A: Open.

Q: (L) OK, we’ve been talking earlier this evening about intent, and of course, our own experiences with intent have really been pretty phenomenal. We’ve come to some kind of an idea that intent, when confirmed repeatedly, actually builds force. Is this a correct concept, and is there anything that you can add to it?
A: Only until anticipation muddies the picture... tricky one, huh?

Q: (L) Is anticipation the act of assuming you know how something is going to happen?
A: Follows realization, generally, and unfortunately for you, on 3rd density.

Q: (L) Is this a correct assessment of this process?
A: Both examples given are correct. You see, once anticipation enters the picture, the intent can no longer be STO.

Q: (L) Anticipation is desire for something for self. Is that it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) OK, so it’s OK to intend something, or to think in an intentional way, or to hope in an intentional way, for something that is to serve another, but anticipation defines it as a more personal thing.
A: And that brings realization.

Q: (L) So, desire to serve others, and to do something because it will help others, brings realization...
A: But, realization creates anticipation.

Q: (L) Well, how do we navigate this razor? I mean, this is like walking on a
razor’s edge. To control your mind to not anticipate, and yet, deal with realization, and yet, still maintain hope...
(J) They said it was tricky...
(L) This is, this is, um...
A: Mental exercises of denial, balanced with pure faith of a nonprejudicial kind.

Q: (L) OK, so, in other words, to just accept what is at the moment, appreciate it as it is at the moment, and have faith that the universe and things will happen the way they are supposed to happen, without placing any expectation on how that will be?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) This is, and I’m not asking about Ark, this is something that he has talked about in terms of shaping the future. He talks about shaping the future as an intentional act of shaping something good, but without defining the moment of measurement. In other words, adding energy to it by intent, but not deciding where, when or how the moment of measurement occurs. When the quantum jump occurs, it occurs on it’s own, and in it’s own way. Is this the concept he’s dealing with here?
A: Anticipation.

Q: (L) In other words, is what he’s talking about anticipation?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, what do you mean, anticipation in response to what I said?
A: That is the key to shaping the future... Avoiding it.

Q: (T) OK, because we’re not anticipating in what we’re doing...
A: Yes.

Q: (T) What we’re doing is not anticipatory, it’s just happening. We were talking about it on the way up, that with interactions with others, we are facilitating, we are creating reality. This is what they all say about reality.
A: When it hits you, it stops.

Q: (L) When what hits you?
(J) The realization.
(T) The fact that it’s happening.
A: Yes unless you cancel out all anticipation.

Q: (L) Well, this is very tricky.
(J) Well, hang on a second, I have a kind of a corollary question. The way I perceive what has happened with us in the campaign against the microwave towers; the article in the Times, and the editorial, and speaking to the people... The way I view it is that when things like that happen, I look at them, and the synchronicities tell me that I am on the right path. Is that a true statement, that they are an indication that I’m going in the right direction?
A: Semi.

Q: (T) It’s a road sign, an indicator.
(J) OK, thank you! That’s good, it’s an indicator.
(L) OK, shaping the future...
(J) In what way is it not? The answer was semi; part of it is true...
A: We have told you.

Q: (L) Well then it seems to me, excuse me in this one, it seems to me that Ark may understand this one better than I do.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) That’s all I wanted to know.
(J) So, let him teach you!
(T) He’ll teach you what you need to learn from him, and you’ll teach him what he needs to learn from you! And as a result, you’ll both gain!
A: Imbalanced upon the former.

Q: (L) What was the former?
(T) He can teach you more, maybe, than you can teach him? Because he’s farther along? Is this correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) This guy is, like, out there!
(T) This is good!
(L) Now, this is a funny little thing, I just want to bring this up. MM called and told me that she had a vision that when Ark arrives, that the Cassiopaean transmissions will cease, that somehow he is some deep, dark, dooey person who will cause everything to just fly apart...
A: Baloney!

Q: (L) Thank you for that! That was so succinct! That’s what I thought myself,
but I just thought I’d throw it in there!
(J) That’s her anticipation!
(L) Well, that’s what she’d like!
(T) Does MM’s camera show real Kiralian fields and all that stuff? Is it actually showing the truth?
A: Discover.

Q: (L) Well, it showed a damn interesting thing when she took a picture of this board!
(T) Ah, but is it the truth?
(L) Well, they said it was!
(T) They did?
(L) They told us, ‘What you are seeing is the actual light picture of a conduit.’
A: Do you think, Terry, that all things are either “black” or “White?”

Q: (T) Not in those photos! No, I’m only asking because I feel that the
pictures are not only influenced by the subject in front of the camera, but also by the subject behind the camera.

[Discussion ensued about workings of cameras]

(L) OK, is it true that if we were to bring an ordinary camera in here, that we would be able to get some interesting photos from our interaction?
(T) I think that would be an ‘open’ or a ‘maybe.’
A: No, it would be a discover.

Q: (L) That was your third choice!
(T) Thank you!
A: Too much bibble/babble.

Q: (L) OK, then we’ll stop bibble-babbling, then!
[Planchette began a series of large spirals]
A: Crank away!

Q: (T) OK, this is one I wanted to ask last week, and couldn’t figure out how to phrase it. I’m not sure now, but I’ll just plunge ahead. I got a copy of ‘Awakening to the Zero Point’, by Greg Baron, while we were in Atlanta, and I’ve read through it. He had a lot to say about the sacred geometries, and especially the circle, and the sphere. A while back we were talking with you about this, and we got to a certain point, and got totally lost. We all kind of put it off to the side for the time being. Is what this fellow has to say in his book about the sacred geometries, and the sphere, is he on to what’s going on here, is this what you were talking about?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Let me ask this. Is there any word that you can give us as a word association as to why my pool pump has decided to die, so that my pool is sitting there green, making me ill?
A: How about metal fatigue?

Q: (L) So, the pump is gone, it has nothing to do with any...
(T) You didn’t do that one!
(L) God, I hope not!
(T) I was going to say a word... how about chlorine?
(J) Sometimes, what is, is...
A: Sometimes circumstances are just ordinary, 3rd density boring, everyday “stuff.”

Q: (L) Well, I just wanted to make sure that it was not symbolic of the fact that Sue and her sister were getting ready to crank down on me in a real significant, icky way!
(T) Is there any direction you’d like to see us move in tonight?
A: How about the good old fashioned standby: UFOs and aliens? That is always a fun one!

Q: (L) OK, I’ve got a question on that. Chloe called today, and in her
conversation about the Ra material, she asked me, was I aware that in the Ra
material, they designated Cassiopaea as the residence of some real negative,
icky, Orion-type STS aliens. Can you make a comment on these
A: ?

Q: (L) Also, the picture of the mantid-type beings in that document that I lent to Shawn has these beings designated as Cassiopaeans. Who are these Cassiopaeans?
(T) Before they answer, can I make a comment here? There is no star called Cassiopaea on our star charts. (L) Oh, I know...
(T) It’s a constellation. So for her to read this in the Ra material and go along with that there’s a bunch of people called the Cassiopaeans who are horrible people on a planet someplace called Cassiopaea, there is no place called that. So there can’t actually be anyone called Cassiopaeans because there is no Cassiopaea.
(L) OK, can we get commentary on this?
A: Sounds good to us!

Q: (L) Where do the mantid-type beings come from? The ones that we’re aware of?
A: The ones you are speaking of come from active human imaginations!

Q: (L) Are there mantid-type aliens that we’re not aware of?
A: Yes, there is damn near everything that you are not aware of!

Q: (T) As you said, are there mantids that we are unaware of, and they told us there’s damn near everything we’re unaware of! It’s a big universe!
(L) In other words, our awareness is...
A: Yes.

Q: (L)... extremely limited, from what I’ve been able to figure out.

(T) They told us that in a couple of years, we have 2% now, it will grow to 30 to 40% of the knowledge of the smartest people on the planet, not the universe.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in other words, what we can know in this level is just like dipping a needle in the ocean and the wetness of the needle is what we know compared to the ocean.
(T) Big time!
(L) Yes, this is not good!
(T) We know one cigarette butt out of the whole tobacco crop!
A: That was a good one!

Q: (T) What did they say previously about the mantid beings?
(J) ‘The ones you are speaking of come from active human imaginations.’
A: Cassiopaean variety.

Q: (L) Oh, the Cassiopaean variety is the product of an overactive imagination. OK, since the Ra material is considered to be a kind of primer to the Cassiopaean material, could you give us a percentage on the accuracy of this material?
A: 63

Q: (L) 63%, Well, that’s pretty good, considering...
(J) It’s not bad...
(T) A lot of it’s very good stuff...
(L) Can you talk to us a little bit about the concept of Wanderers? Is the Ra concept of Wanderers a valid...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) OK, is there anything about Wanderers that you can tell us, that would help us to identify them?
A: Specifics, please.

Q: (L) OK, is it a correct point of reference that Wanderers are individuals who feel alienated in the world system?
A: Yes but they can partially adapt.

Q: (L) OK, do they also sometimes have physical...
A: Revulsion to physicality.

Q: (T) Revulsion to physicality? They don’t like physicality? But they’re here!
(J) Just because they’re here, they don’t have to like it!
(L) OK, is that always a clue?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Anything else about them that...
(J) Wait, I have another question. Revulsion to physicality, does that refer to a dislike of the fact that in 3rd density is all physical, and it’s fixed, as opposed to upper densities, where there’s variability?
A: 3rd density is not “all” physical.

Q: (L) Well, there’s spiritual...
(J) I understand that, but the physical body itself, is fixed.
(L) Well, I don’t think that’s what they’re getting at...
(J) That’s what I’m asking.
(L) I think that what they’re getting at is like a fine division between somebody who focuses on physical sensation as opposed to spiritual or mental or emotional sensation as being the point of reference.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And this is something that I was reading in this book the other day, that he talks about, the body is animal, and the soul is spirit. He says that animal people just seek animal experiences, and they glorify them, and they stimulate their physical emotions.
A: 3rd density natives tend to concentrate and to an extent, revel, in the physical.

Q: (T) And boy, they’re reveling right now!
(L) Yes.
(T) There’s major reveling
going on. And it’s intensifying every day.
(J) I think the point that I was trying to make was having to stay in 3rd density, would they miss the variability of physicality?
(L) Well, Wanderers, remember, are 6th density beings.
A: The lack.

Q: (T) The lack of physicality?
A: Yes. Is missed.

Q: (L) They miss the lack of physicality.
(J) Right. Exactly.
(L) They miss the
lack of physicality.
(J) OK, that was what I was getting at. I just didn’t say it right.
A: Not so much “miss,” as much as difficulty of adjustment.

Q: (J) Yes, like if you went blind, you’d miss being able to see, etc...
A: If you had the freedom of non-physicality, being limited, you’d miss the non-physical.

Q: (L) OK, what’s the scoop on this Mars Rock?
(T) That’s kind of UFO- ish!
A: Vague as can be!

Q: (L) Is it the Mars Rock that’s vague as can be, or is it my question?
A: Latter

Q: (L) OK, latter, my question. Is this rock from Mars?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How long have they known that rocks from Mars are on the planet?
A: 12 years.

Q: (T) About the same length of time it took them to analyze the soil samples that they got from Mariner probes.
(L) OK, Why all of a sudden are they revealing, or releasing this information about this Mars Rock? In such a big and manipulative way?
(T) You just said it!
A: You have already figured it out yourselves.

Q: (L) Well, Sheldon Nidle, the author of ‘Becoming a Galactic Human’...
A: No.

Q: (T) Not Sheldon and the Galactic Humans!
(L) Well, I know they said no, but Sheldon has made an announcement which was put out on the Net...
A: No.

Q: (L) So, there’s not going to be a massive UFO landing between August 29th and December 31st of this year?
(T) Only if you go and see Independence Day!
A: No comment!

Q: (L) Well, I just...
(T) That’s what the press secretary says for Clinton: no comment! ‘Can you describe this woman?’ ‘No comment!’ (L) Is that so pusillanimous as to not deserve a comment? OK, well, so we won’t have to worry about Sheldon Nidle’s aliens coming and taking over...
(T) They can come and take Sheldon away!
(L) Well, OK, but is this Mars Rock, and is this opening of the doors concept, is this leading up to some definite, overt interaction with aliens?
(T) They told us, we know it, yes!
A: Gradually.

Q: (T) That’s what it’s all about. They’re opening it up, and they’re going to take the money... If they want to go to Mars to look for civilizations and stuff, which they’re going to lead up to, and back to the moon here, and all this, and they’re going to make Hoagland feel really good, because he’s right! They’ve already done that!
A: Notice how you heard nothing about the Mars Probes until the rock announcement?

Q: (T) This is the new stuff?
(L) Is this right?
A: The excavation robot spacecraft. One Probe is already on its way, another to follow. No further explanation about “loss” of Mars Explorer.

Q: (L) What did happen to the Mars Explorer?
A: Blacked out. You see, ‘Too risky.’ And too much too soon, due to pressure from Hoagland and others.

Q: (T) My own opinion is that they’ve already been there, and they know what’s
there.
A: No. Microbes are easier to swallow than humans in togas!

Q: (T) Cleopatra and Antony are not going to go over real big this week! Especially with the Bible scholars.
(F) And the scientists!
(L) I want to throw in a quick one about this plane crash. Several people have written and asked me. We’ve discussed it ourselves. There’s all of these plane crashes, with the possibility that we are actually in some state of conflict, and that we just don’t know about it. It was suggested that they’ve been shot down by the Lizzies, or something along that line?
A: No.

Q: (L) OK, well, then forget it. OK...
(T) Back to Mars. OK?
(L) Forward to Mars.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) OK, you just mentioned that somebody from this planet already launched a Mars Probe. A new Mars Probe, that no one in public knows about. Because it’s never been talked about. So, it’s a secret probe. Who does it belong to?
A: Was secret US government.

Q: (T) Was it something that one of the Shuttle missions put out?
A: No.

Q: (J) When did it go up?
A: September of 1995.

Q: (T) Last September, a year ago. So, it’s gone for a year. It takes it a year, two years to get there? Maybe not that long. So, it’s over half-way there at this point.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) What’s it going to do?
A: Next year.

Q: (T) Next year for the next probe?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is this going to be one of those public ones? A publicly announced one?
A: They both are.

Q: (T) What is the purpose of these probes?
A: Excavation to display living organisms.

Q: (T) Display?
(L) Yes, for public consumption. In other words, not only do we have a rock now, that shows evidence that there was... (T) Oh, display, as when they find it and dig it up, they’re going to show it on camera!
(L) Yes!
(T) Connie Kourek will interview it! (L) Right!
(F) First they said they found no evidence, then they said it was inconclusive... Now, who the hell knows what they found! In revealing things, we’ll start with fossilized life, and then move on...
(L) So, they’re going to display the discovery of living organisms on Mars to take the next step to acclimate...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in other words, this process is going to be something of an on-going thing, and that all of these people who are cranking around about, you know, alien landings...
A: No faces, though.

Q: (L) There’s not going to be any ‘Faces On Mars?’ They are not going to show us...
A: Won’t be revealed, what do you think happened with Mars Explorer?

Q: (L) Well, what did happen with the Mars Explorer?
(T) Now, now, now, let me...
A: Hoagland forced their hand.

Q: (T) What do we think happened to the Mars Explorer? I think they switched channels. They just moved it from one communication post to another, and it’s doing exactly what it’s supposed to be doing. And they did it in such a way, that the NASA people really didn’t know what happened, so that when they were asked, they could say, ‘We don’t know what happened to it!’ Because they really don’t know what happened!
(L) When we’re talking about attack, as we were before, as in plane crashes, the Olympics, all these different things - this dealing with these Mars Explorers - is all this stuff, or most of this stuff, coming from the 4th density manipulations of human minds, rather than...
A: Yes.

Q: (L)... rather than actual, physical entry and doing of deeds? Is that it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) OK, so what these people are doing with this Mars Probe, with all of
these things, they’re being manipulated to do these things, and there’s obviously an objective. What is the objective?
A: Too complex.

Q: (L) Too complex. So, it’s not just control, there’s control for a reason.
A: To explain to you.

Q: (T) Because there’s 4th density, fifth density and sixth density reasons involved.
A: Just 4th.

Q: (T) I have a question. They’re going to display live organisms, like, how did they put that ‘Living organisms’? How big are these living organisms going to be? How advanced?
A: Teeny-tiny.

Q: (T) So, we’re still talking about microscopic organisms here?
A: Yes.

Q: (J) So, they won’t wave at us!
A: But these will be alive. Can’t you see the progression here? “Don’t want to scare Grandma Sally Bible Thumper/Stockmarket Investor!”

Q: (L) Do you have any more for us tonight?
A: No. Goodbye.

End of Session

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March 17, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Terry & Jan

Q: (T) Good evening!
A: Hello.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Wokuhia

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (T) Is Ark’s computer going to continue to work okay?
A: Attention: Please do not restrict session to limit of tape. Just be careful to write answers carefully. Tell Arkady to approach his career/move in more than one way: suggest he contact ‘Enterprise Florida,’ headquartered in Orlando, and propose that his potential hiring by any of four Florida universities would be a potential boon to State economic development efforts, due to his stature.
 

Q: (L) OK, any further on that?
(T) They might even have a Web site! Check under Florida Chamber of Commerce.
(L) All right, anything further on that?
A: Yes. What Terry just said is true. And one should know that while the University of Florida is somewhat “set in it’s ways,” the same can not be said for the University of Central Florida, which is in Orlando and has a massive, new, research park immediately to the east of its campus, where much research in advanced physics is slated to begin soon. You see, it is the “angle” or approach that one utilizes that determines the degree of success. Also, F.S.U. has recently constructed a super collider. Yes, access in your libraries, if you do not believe... Remind Arkady that in the United States, it is the money that matters, unlike the Poland he grew up in, and the key is to “Sell one’s self, as if a commodity!!

Q: (J) I have a feeling they aren’t going to let us ask any questions tonight. Ask them if they’re going to let us even ask any questions tonight?
A: Yes, but wait a moment... impress upon Arkady to discreetly sell himself as a valuable asset, if he wishes to have things move more quickly and smoothly. We suspect that “Gainesville,” may have not appreciated what they are up against.
 

Q: (T) Elaborate ‘up against,’ please!
A: Means that they do not recognize the value... He has been offered a position that is way below his station!

Q: (L) OK, anything further that you would like to convey to him tonight?
A: Not at this “time.”

Q: (L) All right, let’s get on to our questions here. Let me ask a quick one about the tetrahedron. Terry, you ask it, because you know more about it.
(T) What Jim was talking about in his letter to Ark?
(L) Yes, or what Hoagland talks about, or... if you’ve got some kind of definite stuff on it...
(T) The Tetrahedron, triangle mathematics that Hoagland is working with in conjunction with the Mars/Cydonia region where he supposedly discovered this...
A: Energy consolidator. EM Wave capturer.

Q: (T) Ok, so it’s an EM wave capturer. Does it also expel EM waves?
A: Close.

Q: (T) From the same points? The 19 points, whatever it is...
A: Channels and enhances, when used properly, and in pristine conditions.

Q: (T) Hoagland is not talking about... whatever he’s talking about, as far as the mathematics go, of the tetrahedral triangles within the sphere, which I’m assuming this planet is calling the sacred geometries, but are physics-type things of different densities, which may not actually be right. OK, this doesn’t apply just to Mars, this is, every sphere has these same properties...
A: Yes.

Q: (T)... a golfball, a base ball; I know they’re not perfect spheres, they have dimples; all the way up to the sun, and so forth and so on, of any size, made out of any material, as long as it’s a sphere, it will have the same properties.
A: No.

Q: (T) OK, it has to have certain kinds of materials?
A: No, must be magnetized.

Q: (T) OK, it’s a magnetized sphere; something that has a magnetic field around it.
(L) Is the tetrahedral configuration a property of the magnetism?
A: Yes. No.

Q: (T) Yes to my question, no to Laura’s question?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) OK, my question is, the sphere has to be able to generate a magnetic field, like the earth has a magnetic field, like Mars generates a magnetic field...
A: Or be magnetized by installation of internal magnetic generator.

Q: (L) OK, what’s the purpose of this? What’s the purpose of these tetrahedrons? What are the...
A: Purpose is not proper term.

Q: (T) That’s right. It’s not a purpose, it just exists this way. These spheres that are magnetic, or are able to be magnetized, this happens just because they are what they are, and this is how the physics works?
A: Reflection of universal balance.

Q: (L) OK, they just simply... and is it that something occurs at the points of these triangles that is noticable, I mean, is it like a power point?
A: No.

Q: (L) OK, well, this guy Jim says that they are designated by different monuments on the planet’s surface...
A: Nonsense!!!

Q: (T) Thank you!
(L)... and that they are visual sighting...
A: Artificial constructed tetrahedrons are placed on strategic locations on the planet’s surface in order to utilize magnetic fields properly.

Q: (L) Who places these artificially constructed tetrahedrons at these points?
A: The artificial constructors.

Q: (L) And who are they?
A: Whomever they may be.

Q: (T) In other words, they can be anybody. They’re artificial constructor, they could be anybody...
(L) If people know about them, they can do this...
A: No, no no. Nineteen degrees north and south.

Q: (T) Correct, those are the numbers that Hoagland came up with, with his
stuff. On most of the planets, and our sun, we seem to have major events happening, or have happened...
A: Hawaii.

Q: (T) Yes, Hawaii, Puerto Rico... let’s see, 19 degrees north and south, Phillipines, I think, is somewhere close, on the south side. Major volcanos...
(F) Phillipines is on the north side, that’s not in the Southern Hemisphere...
(T) I’d have to pull out a global map to see what the 19 degrees are. On Mars, Cydonia resides at approximately 19 degrees, the Giant volcano, the dead volcano on Mars is approximately 19 degrees, the stuff that they found on Venus, the major things, are at approximately 19 degrees. The sunspots are approximately 19 degrees, the red spot on Jupiter...
(L) Is there anything else we want to get on this tetrahedron... Is there anything else we could ask about this subject, that we haven’t thought of ourselves...
(T) I’m sure there’s a lot...
(L) Oh, I know... that you could give us?
A: Unlimited.

Q: (L) Do the tetrahedrons spin within the sphere? Do these power points of the tetrahedron spin?
A: Energy fields flow in balalnce.

Q: (T) So they’re spinning to keep balance?
(J) Like a gyro.
(T) Is there... now, am I correct in the fact that there’s a direct relationship here to the real Hebrew Star of David, to these tetrahedrals?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) And that everythng that has been done to it for the last 500 years or so, has been done to screw things up?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Yes. So that that symbol is not a religious symbol, as such, but a very important...
(L)...power symbol.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) It describes a physics that transcends the densities.
A: So is pentagon.

Q: (T) So is the Pentagon?
(J) A pentagon.
(T) The pentagon shape. These are part of what humans describe as the sacred geometries.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) So, in that ‘Bear’ book that I have...
A: You as Atlanteans knew this, and lived by it in many ways. For example, the pyramid recharges by capturing exactly half the energy points, thus allowing a positive imbalance buildup to be captured, then expended.
 

Q: (L) OK, are we finished, or... Ok, we know we are not finished, but we know we want to cover a couple of things... is there something more about the tetrahedrons that is important for us to know now?
(T) That we can pass on to Ark?
(L) Yes, essential to know now? A real ‘goodie?’
A: Open.

Q: (T) Send him what we’ve got now, and we can come up with some more questions...
(L) Yes. Until he’s here, and can ask questions... (T) Maybe it’s something we can tap into...
(L) OK, Jan has written down a question that I’ve been curious about myself lately, so I think we’ll just kind of throw it in on the top... that has to do with the unusually high historically recorded lightning strikes in this area. Does this have any correlation to psychic abilities?
A: Vaguely constructed inquiry.

Q: (L) OK, is there any correlation between the extremely high lightning strikes in this area and our work? In this area?
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) Is there a correlation to the lightning strikes in this area, in this immediate area; not right here, around this house, but in the Bay area, because it’s so built up, because there’s so much metal around?
A: Maybe.
 

Q: (L) Is there any correlation between the lightning strikes and so forth that have been going on, seemingly coincidental moments in the communications I’ve been having with Ark?
A: Lightning has been striking elsewhere a lot more too.

Q: (L) So, just in general. There’s been more lightning strikes all over the place in general.
(T) OK, on the correlations things, to skip from lightning to another question I just thought of. Is there a correlation to the massive power blackouts on the West Coast that have been happening recently, to the government messing around with the HAARP Project, and other related weapons testing systems?
A: Not HAARP.

Q: (T) OK, not HAARP. Something else that they’re messing with?
(L) Well, why don’t we just ask, what’s the cause of the blackouts?
(T) OK, what’s the cause of the blackouts? Good question!
A: 4th density bleed through has many “fun” possibilities.

Q: (L) Oh, fun!
(T) 4th density Bleedthrough? This is part of the bleedthrough from the different bases on the West Coast?
A: More or less.

Q: (T) Are you aware of the Greenbaum effect? Dr. Greenbaum and his mind control experiments, that we’ve been looking at lately?
A: Yes.

Q: Is what’s said there factual? I won’t say true, but is it factual? Most of it?
A: Close.

Q: (T) OK, the question is, is the fellow that just shot three professors in San Diego, I think it was, the University, before they read his thesis, because he was afraid they would throw his thesis away, and make it look bad, and flunk him. Was he a Greenbaum?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Why did they turn him ‘on’ at that point?
A: Not correct concept. What if: those programmed in the so called “Greenbaum” projects are preprogrammed to “go off” all at once, and some “malfunction,” and go off early?

Q: (L) Oh!!! Can you tell us at approximately what time they’re programmed to go off? Because it is a program...
A: Nope.

Q: (T) No, they can’t. Free will!!!
(L) OK, can you tell us how many of them there are?
A: No.

Q: (T) Do you know how many there are?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are you ‘tuned in’ for...
A: Tuned in!?!

Q: (T) Mirth! Mirth!
(L) OK, because we’re going to run out of tape, let’s get Jan’s last question here. She wants to know if there’s any significance to these three Scorpio/Aquarius couples in our circle? As in Terry and Jan, Laura and Arkadiusz, and Margaret and Michael? Well, Margaret and Michael are not really in the circle...
(J) Well, all three are known to me...
(T) She means finding that there’s this Scorpio/Aquarius matchup.
A: No. Coincidences are the spice of life for those with higher knowledge.

Q: (T) Do you have a question?
(L) Well, since things have progressed as far as they have, what do you think of Ark now? Is he the Orion?
A: No commentski.

Q: (L) I guess you could read that in the way of a yes!
(T) Well, we may not be able to read it in the way of a yes. Maybe he knows the Orion. He’s bringing him with him.
A: Wait and see.

Q: (L) OK...
(T) I’m excited about him coming now, too! I want him to get here, and talk to him in person. Yes!
(L) Wait your turn!!!!
(T) When you get back from your world tour!
(L) Right, yeah!
A: You are all Orion manufacture.

Q: (L) OK, that’s cool!
(T) I hope they build their cars better than Ford!
A: Still in testing phase.

Q: (T) Yeah, we’re beta models! And somebody’s reprogramming us, on top of it all!
(L) OK, let me say this. In reading through all these transcripts, you guys were right. My mind was blown. I was completely blown at all the things that I missed...
A: You ain’t seen nothin yet!

Q: (T) ‘Dark star, see you in the morning....’ Still can’t think of the name of that group!
(T) Do you all have anything more to say this evening?
A: Do you have any more questions?

Q: (L) Well, we’ve got loads of questions, but we need to get ourselves formulated, we need to get tapes, we need to get organized, we need...
A: Oh, by the way, Laura: You may help Ark onthe things we mentioned earlier, if he requests, what with your communication skills... and on that note, goodbye.

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August 24, 1996

Freddie, Laura, V

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello. Louritha of Cassiopaea and we welcome V, it is good to have your presence!!

Q: (L) Why do I have this persistant, overwhelming pain in my shoulder. I am simply unable to do anything with this pain. If it were not so bad, I would not ask, but I am in such constant pain that it is difficult to even concentrate.
A: Soft calcium tissues.

Q: (V) How can she work that out?
A: Through re-energization of the body, combined with cleansing at the same time.

Q: (L) Are you talking about fasting?
A: A fast would not be good, except one day per each ten.

Q: (L) Okay, you say re-energization combined with cleansing. What is the proposed protocol to accomplish this?
A: You have been spending too much “time” being static.

Q: (L) You are saying that I need to get out and move around?
A: 1.5 hours per day. We recommend the first order of business is to clean the pool, then swim 100 circular “laps” each day. Swimming get the entire body to move and purge, thus your cleansing.

Q: (L) Well, speaking of that. I cannot do that until I can afford to replace the pool pump. So, since you guys are so full of all this advice, maybe you will tell me how to do this? That is impossible right now.
A: Ask Ark.

Q: (L) I can’t ask him!
A: Why do you think we sent him?

Q: (L) You are completely crazy. I couldn’t do THAT!!
A: Yes you could, and phrase it directly.

Q: (L) I can’t do that!
(V) Let me ask you, if Ark loves you, do you think he wants you to be in the situation you are in? If he loves you that much...
A: In that sense, he is as you say, “loaded.”

Q: (L) I can’t DO that! God! Guys, come on!
A: No, we are not at 7th density yet, but we appreciate the compliment!!

Q: (L) I can’t do that!
(V) Well, you can’t as long as you keep telling yourself you can’t!
(L) Could you ask a man for money?
(V) Yes.
(L) You could?
(V) If I was in a relationship where there was love, of course I could. And you can!
(L) No, I can’t.
(V) What makes you think he wants you to suffer? If he knew how you are suffering, don’t you think he would care? Am I right?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Freddie! You are pushing that!
(F) I AM NOT!
(L) Well, I have a hard
time asking anyone for anything.
(V) Where does that come from?
(L) I don’t know.
(V) How about pride and ego? A relationship is not about ego. A relationship is about soul connection and love.
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Thank you! See, I’m getting good!
(L) Okay, let me ask why I have such an internal restriction?
A: You do not. You have always had high expectations relating to your own powers, when you let those go, good things happen.

Q: (V) Does this relate to the ‘I must be perfect’ syndrome? Or do you think that it diminishes your worth to need from someone else and to not be the one who is doing the giving?
(L) I suppose that it makes me feel worthless to need.
A: What do you think he thinks you are?

Q: (L) I don’t know. What does he think?
A: That is not what we asked you. Please answer us.

Q: (V) Well...? Think about it.... It is so intense, so fast...
(L) What does he think? I don’t know. I only know what he says. But, what he says and what he really thinks may be two different things. He says that I am his other half, his completion. That’s what he says. Who knows, he may be telling the truth.
A: So, where does ego enter into that?

Q: (L) I guess it shouldn’t.
A: Do you think he will reject you if you are honest and open?

Q: (L) No.
A: Then we suggest you spell out to him your exact circumstances, and hide
nothing!

Q: (L) You mean I have to tell him that my husband has left me with 5 children and no money and is playing games to force me to take him back or starve? That I have used all the money I had to live on and what Lewis has given me isn’t enough? That is completely humiliating! It makes me look stupid! What kind of a woman would put herself into this situation? Waiting for an insurance settlement which could take God-knows-how-long!
A: And how does one adult raise 5 kids these days? Do you not think the truth
is better than fiction?

Q: (V) That’s how you live your life! Based on truth.
(L) But I never thought that it would include having to tell someone my personal problems, my financial difficulties! That is going a bit far with this! I expected the insurance money in July...
(V) You accept what the C’s say, correct? Then, you need to apply it in real life!
(L) Guys! You are putting me in an impossible situation! I cannot do this!
A: Well, the internet expense angle is there too.

Q: (L) Yes. I will soon have to cancel my internet account and I will have to tell him that eventually.
A: Which has a funny ring of truth to it!

Q: (L) All things considered, how soon before I get the money from the lawsuit?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) Now, you said that you ‘sent’ Ark. I want to know exactly what you meant by that. I don’t like to be manipulated!
A: “Sent” may not be the exact term, more like nudged.

Q: (L) Well, you have certainly been nudging ME in his direction! Are you sure I don’t have an attachment in this arm? It is excruciating just now!
A: Yes. It is floating calcification.

Q: (L) Wonderful. Just what I always needed. More pain. Okay. I am in so much pain I will do just about anything to get out of it. Okay. I will tell him. But I want you to know that I do it under protest. And, if I never hear from him again, well... it’s better to know now. Violette, ask your questions.
(V) I have been helping a woman who has cancer. I see her cancer as a sideline even though it is in the lymph system. Is this correct?
A: Cancer is always a “sideline.”

Q: (V) When I was working with her, I felt a lot of energy flow coming up from her solar plexus. Was this the disease energy leaving?
A: Constriction easing. If she wants to remain on third density, she must change a 28 year long outlook, and purge feelings, rather than collecting them as a “sponge.” Also, dietary changes are needed. We suggest sauerkraut extract and fruit juices and broccoli. She needs colonic therapy, and if diagnosis is “terminal,” why are poisonous treatments a consideration? We strongly recommend that you suggest a change in the 28 year long outlook. She must purge and cleanse her mind, body, and soul, as with ALL cancer patients.
 

Q: (V) I want to address another issue: that of charging for Reiki and other similar work. I mean, if this is a spiritual gift...
A: Offer the opportunity to give donations in any amount or form as deemed
appropriate by the receiver.

Q: (L) Okay, I have two quick questions. Last Sunday morning, after the session the previous night, I had a very strange experience similar to what Al-Arabi describes as being in a ‘state.’ It was like being taken up into a condition of near madness, Ark was there, and then, when it became unbearable, pulling back cold, shaking and rocking. I was shivering like I would never get warm and I could FEEL my soul rocking in my body. I would like to know exactly what this was?
A: Balancing of half-self.

Q: (L) What is a half-self?
A: Your starter version, relating to birth karmic imprint.

Q: (L) What in the world does THAT mean?
A: What you were assigned with at the onset of this incarnation.

Q: (L) Do you mean that this was ‘starting’ something? Like a starter in a car?
A: No, what you started with. This must be periodically re-balanced at apex of significant junctures.

Q: (L) The next thing that happened was that a few days later, I went unconscious and Ark saw me come in the window. What happened?
A: Learning is fun!

Q: (L) Well, my night would not have been complete without that!
(V) I am interested in more Reiki symbols. Yet, there is nowhere else to learn these things. Can you direct me?
A: Vague.

Q: (L) Is it possible at this point to learn more Reiki symbols?
A: We would be happy to give you one. [Draws symbol] This is called Ohnh tu shayti sunehn.

Q: (L) And what energy does this symbol produce or encourage?
A: Completes spiritual awakening. And Good Night.

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August 31, 1996

Freddie, Laura, Terry, Jan & V

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Kiork

Q: (L) And where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Does anybody have any questions this evening?
(V) Yes, I do. What should I do for this rashing? Could you please give me some insight? It feels like I have a chemical burn on my face, and my skin is itching.
A: So why is this?

Q: (V) I’m thinking it’s because of hormones, the reaction to...
A: No. No.

Q: (V) Why does it only happen to...
A: Guess again, and remember, learning is necessary for growth.

Q: (L) Is it...
(V) Well, I notice it happening within the last few months
right before I cycle... That’s why I guessed that it’s due to hormonal fluctuations.
A: And what are your usual practices around the cycling?

Q: (L) This is getting a little personal, Violette! You shouldn’t have asked this one!
(T) It’s something you’re doing...
(J) Yes, what are you doing? That is what I was going to ask!
(V) Well...
A: OK Laura, hand on, thank you, now, rashes are usually an evidence of toxicity...

Q: (V) From a food source?
A: We asked you.

Q: (L) So Violette has some toxicity in her system, and we’re fairly certain it’s not pot, because she’s not smoking it any more...
(V) And it’s not alcohol, I’m not drinking.
(T) Do you get any particular craving for any kind of food that you don’t normally eat?
(V) That’s the thing! I eat chocolate all the time, I drink soda all the time... (T) Is it a food type that’s interacting?
A: But your “cycles” are not “all the time.”

Q: (L) So, in other words, things that you eat at that time of the month will affect you negatively... then you need to experiment with it. Is that the solution here, that there’s something here that she’s taking in that ordinarily doesn’t bother her...
A: Well, we alluded to “practices,” did we not?

Q: (L) Is there anything that you do at that particular time of the month that you don’t do...
(V) (Embarrassed) You guys! Well, I guess...
(J) You need to look at what
you’re doing at that time, and...
(L) Just kind of eliminate some things, eat very simply and plainly, and be very careful with your system, physically, mentally and emotionally and spiritually, at that time of the month.
(T) You know, just change your whole lifestyle!
(Laughter) (L) OK, ok, have you heard enough yet, Violette?
(T) And stay out of San Francisco, too!
(L) Let me ask real quick, on another health issue, last week you told me that I should swim circular laps. Is there some particular advantage to these circular laps, as opposed to back and forth across laps?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are you going to tell me what the advantage is?
A: Try it.

Q: (L) Well, I intend to.
(T) Circles. It’s spinning. It’s the same idea. 33 circles...
(L) They told me to do a 100 a day.
(V) Not only that, it’s a continuous motion. If you go from one end to the other, you have to stop...
(J) You’re breaking... exactly, that’s true.
(T) It’s one continuous motion all the time.
(L) Well I want to take the time to tell you guys that I really appreciate the tiny bit of advice you guys gave me last week; it certainly didn’t turn out as I expected...
A: Tiny?!?!?

Q: (L) Well it was really, reaaly quite outstanding, and it had quite outstanding results. I’m impressed all the heck and back, so... I don’t know what to say...
(T) Genuflect!
(L) Yes! Several times! So, anything further on that?
A: Any more questions of faith?

Q: (L) No, I don’t think so! I think I’d be crazy if I had any!
(T) I think you’ve gotten more than enough feedback on that.
(L) Very quickly, let me ask for A (daughter). We have been discussing whether she should, or should not, go to school. I support her either way. There are valid reasons for both. She asked me to ask you guys if you would give her a little guidance on the school issue, and she is open to anything that you may suggest.
A: Hmmm... This one is difficult because there’ll be regrets either way.

Q: (L) I know, and my thought is that she should go ahead and go, simply because of the fact that she is so moody a person, that it will make her, by her own willing herself to do it, to get out there and be active and interact with other people, and keep her out of the dumps. That’s my feeling about it. She needs to get out of the dumps.
(T) She needs to interact with people her own age.
(L) Yes...
A: Her “dumps” are not caused by that.

Q: (L) What are they caused by?
A: Her secrets.

Q: (L) And what are her secrets?
A: Open.

Q: (T) That you have to talk to her about.
(L) Anybody got any clues?
(J) How old is she?
(L) 15.
(J) She’s 15. It could be anything!
(T) She’s probably jealous of her sister.
(L,J&V) No!
A: No.

Q: (L) Do these secrets have to do with physical things?
A: Vague.

Q: (L) Are they secrets about the way she thinks or feels?
A: Some.

Q: (L) Are they secrets about things she’s done?
A: Not much.

Q: (L) Are they secrets from past lives?
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) She’s very sensitive, as in psychic sensitive...
(L) Does she need spirit release?
(T) Is the interaction with the other people, is she picking up on all their feelings and thoughts and ideas, and it’s making her very, very uncomfortable?
A: Have you not traveled that path to your satisfaction yet?!?

Q: (L) Well, that was kind of obscure!
(V) Didn’t you have secrets when you were a teenager?
A: Spirit release.

Q: (L) She needs spirit release...
(T) No, they mean haven’t you traveled that path already? You’re not doing spirit release any more, remember? She doesn’t need that, no.
(L) Yes, everybody’s got to do their own...
(T) Is she reacting to the divorce?
(V) That’s what I was thinking.
(T) That's got to be hard on her...
(V) Aren’t secrets just a part of growing up? A natural part of growing up?
(J) She’s 15, remember.
A: No not for everyone. Secrets.

Q: (J) She’s 15, and she’s got secrets...
A: No, no no. Secrets are not for everyone to have and to keep.

Q: (L) Is this a seriously disturbing secret, or series of secrets, or...
A: Ask A_ how many secrets she keeps.

Q: (L) OK, let’s drop it. What’s next?
(T) The last few where they’ve led off have led to some very interesting things.
(L) Go ahead.
(T) Would you all like to start the ball rolling here this evening and point us in a direction you’d like us to go?
A: No, you point.

Q: (L) Question, this may take us somewhere. I noticed when I was redoing these transcripts for Ark to read that when we were discussing the origin of the Celts, that the question was asked, by me, were they in any way superior to the indigenous people of this planet? And the remark was, that they were sturdier in some way. And then I commented that they didn’t appear to be sturdier than, say, some of the big Black people, because Celts are very fair, and very thin- skinned looking, and very delicate. It just seemed to me to be kind of an odd remark to make. However, the response that I received, which I didn’t pick up on at the time, which blew mw out of the water, was that they were sturdier, but not neccessarily on the surface of the planet...
(J) No, they didn’t say on the surface of the planet. They just said, on the surface.
(L) On the surface... Uh huh. So, does that surface mean surface of their appearance, or does that surface mean surface as in underground? That’s my question.
A: Both.

Q: (L) Now, in talking about these large underground cities or enclaves that we’ve talked about on a couple of occasions, it has been said that these beings come and actually may take human babies. I mean , this is like fairy lore, legends, of different kinds of creatures that come and steal people’s babies, and they go and live underground, and sometimes, one or another will escape. Is this what we’re talking about here? These kinds of situations, these underground cities and caves and civilizations and so forth?
A: Vague.

Q: (L) Well, I know it’s vague...
(T) Are the Celts part of these underground civilizations?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) And they came to the surface some time ago...
A: No.

Q: (L) No, they came here, and they were taken underground...
A: No.

Q: (L) No, well, what’s the story?
A: Went.

Q: (L) They went underground? Is that it?
(T) When did they go underground?
A: Several occasions, the most recent being, on your calendar: 1941 through 1945.

Q: (L) That’s when they went underground? 1941 through 1945?
A: Last episode of mass migration, mostly Deutschlanders.

Q: (T) Underground. We’re talking underground, as in under the surface of the earth. Is this what we’re talking?
A: Antarctica. Under there.

Q: (T) Under Antarctica, under... Oh, in one of the big... OOOhhh!
A: Entry port.

Q: (T) They went underground in Antarctica, they built a large underground base there, this is where the Germans, as in the Nazi Germans, claimed as Vineland, I think it is, where the older maps that show Antarctica, where the Germans, claimed as Vineland, I think it is, where the older maps that show Antarctica, where the German territory was claimed, it’s in that section that’s south of...
A: Yes, but they entered through their constructed base, as instructed, then were assimilated.

Q: (L) They were assimilated into the population already existent? Underground cities, underground bases?
A: Yes.

Q: Laura) So, they didn’t build them, they entered into them as instructed, and were assimilated into the population?
A: They did build a base.

Q: (T) Well, they’d have to keep expanding! Now, you said instructed...
(L) Instructed by whom?
(T) They were instructed to go there?
A: Those identifying themselves as “Antareans.”

Q: (L) And who are the Antareans?
A: STS Humanoid Orion linkage.

Q: (L) What is an STS Orion Linkage?
(T) That’s the...
(L) We have a new concept here.
(T) They would be... the... the...the...
(V) Mutant Race!
(T) Yes! Those that were part of the creation...
A: No.

Q: (L) What is an STS Humanoid Orion linkage?

[Part of tape seems to be missing here, questions in [ ] are reconstruction]

A: An STS race from Orion that is humanoid.

Q: [something about who or how they got hooked up with the Nazis. Probably a question related to the group that “handled” Hitler.]
A: The Thule Society originated contact.

Q: [something about them “waiting to take over the world”]
A: Waiting?

Q: [undoubtedly Terry’s question about what Admiral Byrd may have seen over the pole.]
A: Yes, but he was led to believe he was chasing what amounted to merely an
encampment of detached Nazis.

Q: [So Byrd must have SEEN something and was then led off the track...]
A: Yes

Q: (T) ...the U.S. just assumed, and Churchill, between the two of them, was it Roosevelt and Churchill? They didn’t even tell the Rssians too much about what they were doing down there. They just assumed that this was a base, another one of their underground bases that was manned by the Naziis, but there wasn’t anything that they could do, because they were too far away, and we were keeping them out of the war. So, there wasn’t much that they could send back. So, they let them come in, and figured they were stranded.
(V) Are they coming back out now in the...
(T) They’ve been coming back out...

(V)... shape of the White Supremicists that are like popping up all over the place?
(T) They’ve been coming and going all along. Admiral Byrd was sent down there, supposedly to go to the South Pole, the first Admiral Byrd expedition to the South Pole; but he took a large military force with him. He was still a U.S. Admiral at the time. The large military force encountered resistance and got their asses whupped real good down there. But, they kept it real quiet, because nobody knew what was really going on down there. So, they just said, oh, it was a scientific expedition. It was really Captain Picard and the Enterprise going to find a new planet! And in reality, what they’d done was to go down there to root out this base out after the war, and they didn’t do real well at all!
(J) Bit off more than they could chew.
(T) They lost a whole lot of people and a whole lot of ships, and a lot of equipment down there. That’s why all these bases ring around the outside, all the scientific bases from different countries; Russia, the U.S., Great Britain, all these countries have these scientific bases all along the outer edge of the Antarctic. They’re scientific, they use them for study, but they are there to monitor what’s going on, that’s why they don’t go into the Antarctic.
(V) You know, my father was a SeeBee down there.
(T) I’ll bet he has some very interesting stories about it.
(V) That’s why my father is an alcoholic and can’t see straight.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What do these guys plan on doing?
A: This is where “The Master Race” is being developed.

Q: (L) And what is the timeframe they have planned for this activity?
A: Never mind.

Q: (L) Is Ark going to be able to help us with technology, to help other people, or to protect ourselves in some way? In this really bizzare stff goin on on our planet?
A: Too much, too soon, my dear. Curiosity killed the cat.

Q: (L) Well, satisfaction brought him back!
A: Not in this case!!!

Q: (T) You’ve got to let this go along. It’s picking up momentum every day, it seems. So, just let it roll along and let it see where it goes.
(L) All right, lets...
(T) He’s coming to protect you. That’s what he said.
A: Maybe, but there is so, so, so much more in store than that!!!!!!

Q: (L) Stop!... Is that an ominous, ‘maybe, but there’s so, so, so much more in store?’ Or is that a positive, there is so, so, so much more in store?
A: Why would you think it ominous?

Q: (L) Well I don’t know.. because I’m scared of what I don’t know! (T) Faith, we’re back to faith again.
A: What have we helped you to discover so far? Would you rather discontinue this
operation?

Q: (L) Oh, hell no!
(T) After two years, you know she’s always going to ask those kinds of questions!
A: Not two years, eternity.

Q: (L) Did I just get zinged?
(T) No. No. Mirth!
(J) Yes, we haven’t had mirth in a while!
(T) Just a little mirth there!
A: We have helped you build your staircase one step at a time. Because you asked for it. And you asked for it because it was your destiny. We have put you in contact with those of rare ability in order for you to be able to communicate with us. Again, because you desired it, in order to realize your path. By now, you should recognize the signs... Those who display thinking patterns which in many ways deviate from that which is considered ordinary. The more unusual, the more telling. They have past lives on 3rd density earth, but not recently, but for this one. And they are not oriented to the earth frequency vibrations. [Group discussion ensued on the last response]

Q: (T) ...It is destiny for you to find out what your path was, you had to make this contact, because it was what you were supposed to do.
(L) Are we not talking about Freddie in terms of being put in contact with someone who enables me to communicate with you, so you can put me on my path, which is building the staircase, etc, etc. ? Is that not what we’ve got going here?
A: He is one, but not the only one, just the one who awakened your sense of
recognition.

Q: (L) I know this is probably not the time to ask this question; this is the kind of discover, open find out, open that kind of thing, but ias seems to me almost that you are leading up to say something, so maybe I can help you along by asking, what is this staircase, what is this destiny?
A: Discover.

Q: (L) I knew it was coming!
(T) Why don’t we ask who else is involved.
(L) You ask, I’m trying to...
(T) Well, if Freddie is one, who else is involved?
A: We have given the signs, but they are not necessarily the same with each individual.

Q: (L) Well, I know it’s kind of a bizzare idea, but...
(T) Let me ask this. All this work you’ve been doing, all this nurturing you’ve been doing, is Laura a keystone to whole project that you’re working on?
A: We suggest you avoid anticipatory exercises, as realization comes after the fact.

Q: [Freddie complains because Laura keeps taking her hand off the planchette and resting it in her lap.] (L) Well, I’m in pain, Freddie, it’s hard for me to sit here. Appreciate the fact that I’m in pain.
A: Appreciate the fact that you have been given the keys to end all this pain.

Q: (L) When you say, ‘end all this pain,’ it sounds a little more inclusive than just my shoulder hurting! I mean, that sounds rather suggestive.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) To end all this pain...
A: It all goes hand in hand.

Q: (T) Yuppers!
(L) Well, that’s... that’s scary!
(T) Why? What’s scary? It shouldn’t be scary, it should be... it should be...
(L) Well, you know what I mean! My poor little pitiful conscious mind thinks it’s scary! Maybe the rest of me like it.
(T) It should be, um, satisfying to know that! It all goes together.
(V) I wonder if hand-in-hand is literal...
(L) Uh huh. And that was the big key word, all day long... hand-in- hand, give me your hand, (V) Today?
(L) Yes, we’re going here, we’re going there, we’re going to do this, we’re going to do that.
(J) Ark?
(L) Yes.
(J) So, do you have the keys to end all this pain?
(T) Now, all we have to do, is find the key-ring!
(L) No, no, no! We have to find the lock! Terry, the lock! We’ve got to find that sucker! I mean, so what, we’ve got the keys? What are we going to put them in?
(T) Yes, indeed! We’ve got the keys! What do we use them on?
(J) Where’s the door? And where does it go... well, maybe not...
(T) Gotta find that door. We’ll ask where it goes after we get the door open!
(J) Noooo! Let’s ask before!!
(T) Watch out for the chasm beyond the door!
A: Maybe you should swim your self silly.

Q: (T) Start doing laps! 100 every day.
(L) Who is going to do them with me?
(V) I will!
(L) All right! You’re on! How about tonight?
(V) All right, except for every other Tuesday.
(T) Every other Tuesday you have to swim by yourself.
(V) What if I have a date?
(L) No dates!
A: Your discipline may be a problem...

Q: (L) I do have discipline problems...
(V) ‘You Vill Svim’ (L) Who is going to come and crack the whip over me, make me get in the pool?
(T) Be careful, they were already over the house once!
(J) Be careful what you ask for!
(V) I was thinking of walking in the pool, to help my hip...
(L) It does, walking in the pool is very good.
(V) Will walking I the pool help my hip get back into where it’s supposed to be? Or swimming, for that matter?
A: OK.

Q: (L) So I’m supposed to swim myself silly...
(T) And then laugh a lot... when you get silly. And have fun with it.
(L) All right guys...
(T) Swim the hundred laps because you want to, not because you have to.
A: You cannot imagine the relief less poundage will bring to you.

Q: (L) Well, same to you, fella! Well, let me ask this. Is this swimming in circles going to make it go faster?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, ok, we’ll go fo it, because I’ll tell you what, I’m starving myself to death, and we’re not having any movement here the last week or two.
(V) Starving yourself to death is only going to lead to ill health.
(L) Does anybody have any more questions? Because I’m absolutely miserable here. All right, let’s say goodnight. Is there anything you want to impart to us? In your past for us to move towards the future before we shut down for the night?
A: You need to be vigilant in your queries. Goodnight.

End of Session

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