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			January 20, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, PZ, PkZ, SZ, SV, AM, W, etc.
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello. We have a lot of guests tonight!
 A: Hello. No need to direct traffic.
 
 Q: (L) What name shall we use tonight?
 A: Yodnor.
 
 Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) AM is here tonight with her aura camera. Is it possible to 
			take a 
			picture of us while channeling, and will anything show up?
 A: Try it and see.
 
 Q: (L) We certainly will, but we want to ask a question before we 
			get started on that. There are rumors out that Betelgeuse has gone 
			supernova and it can be seen with a telescope, but not yet with the 
			naked eye. When did this occur?
 A: You better check the data.
 
 Q: (L) Okay. Is this going to have any effect on us?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Is it going to have any effect on us in an ethereal sense?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Is it just something that has happened that is going to be 
			interesting to look at?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) We are going to take a little break and let AM set up the 
			camera. [Camera is set up, metal plates are arranged so that L puts 
			right hand on one and F puts left hand on one, and their other hands 
			are kept on the planchette.] (L) Hi, guys! What do you think of all 
			this equipment?
 A: Yes, neat!
 
 Q: [Preparations being made for aura photos. L and F draped in black 
			cloth.] (S) Laura, you have something stuck in your hair!
 (F) It’s a 
			pen.
 (S) She’s always got things stuck in her hair. No telling what 
			else is in there!
 (P) Yeah. It’s pretty wild tonight. You look like 
			a witch!
 (L) Well, you people are so nice tonight!
 A: Which?
 
 Q: [Laughter.] (L) Okay, everybody... settle down! We had some plans 
			for questions tonight.
 A: Okay.
 
 Q: (L) Yes, does anybody remember the questions? Where is the list? 
			W, ask a question because I just went blank! [Laughter]
 A: Ask W. [Laughter]
 
 Q: (L) We were curious as to what was photographed by AM and S when 
			they were in Central America? There was some fuzzy image on the 
			photo. Chichen Itza, I believe.
 A: Aural imprints.
 
 Q: (L) Of what? [Aura photo taken of F]
 A: Representations in zero space/time of members of “Quan” sect of 
			supreme 
			spiritualists who vacated the body simultaneously.
 
 
				Q: (W) Well, I am 
			just coming in in the middle and I don’t know what has been asked 
			before. Who is the most likely candidate to be elected president 
			this year? A: Well, this is not of great importance, as the president does not 
			make the 
			decisions, but it is likely to be Dole, as the points are aligning 
			now. But, there is a lot to be seen between now and then. Future is 
			open.
 
 
				Q: (AM) Let me move the camera around, I want to get one of L 
			now.(S) Look at F’s photo. It looks like there is a hand around his 
			arm!
 (F) It doesn’t look like anything to me.
 (AM) I am going to try 
			to get one of the middle of the board where their hands are.
 (L) 
			Guys! Are you here and ready for a mug shot?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (AM) Take a deep breath and hold... [aura photo of L is taken] 
			(L) [looking at aura photo of self] This is very strange, guys. How 
			come I am not in this picture and F shows up in his? Why have I 
			physically disappeared?
 A: Learning builds spiritual growth, and awareness “solidifies” 
			knowledge.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, guys, smile for the camera! [Aura photo of board is 
			taken with L’s and F’s fingers on planchette.] (L) Okay, but that 
			does not explain why I disappeared.
 A: Because the energy field enclosure was unifying you with the 
			conduit, as is 
			usual during channeling sessions between 3rd and 6th density level 
			communications.
 
 Q: [Photo of board develops, and geometric figure appears to sounds 
			of amazement from group] (L) What is this geometric figure?
 A: Was a visual representation of the conduit, indeed!!! The reason 
			for such 
			clear luminescence is that thought centers were clear and open in 
			you at the moment of the photograph. In other words, there was an 
			imbalance of energy coming from 6th density transmission point. So, 
			what you are viewing is 100 per cent pure light energy of 
			uncorrupted knowledge transmitted through you. This has never been 
			seen in 3rd density ever before. You do not completely realize the 
			ramifications of this yet, but you will. We have made history here 
			tonight folks!!!!!
 
			[Break while more individual aura photos are taken. When finished, 
			AM and W pack equipment and depart. Discussion of grammar.] 
			 
				
				Q: (L) I 
			would like you to comment on our discussion on grammar. Does 
			acquiring knowledge in a spiritual sense assist in the development 
			of knowledge in other areas, such as communication? A: Correctness in all areas, as agreed upon by convention, can only 
			serve to 
			help or improve or strengthen all processes.
 
 Q: (P) I would like to know what I can do to improve my memory?
 A: You have sleep disorders that are “short circuiting what would 
			ordinarily be 
			utterly spectacular psychic and mental abilities. When you were very 
			young, your senses were 10 times sharper. But then, the 
			“interferences began.”
 
 
				Q: (P) That is absolutely true. I have had a 
			sleep problem for years.(L) Is there anything P can do to overcome 
			this? Physically or otherwise?
 A: Cleansing of a very intensive nature; hypnotic regression; spirit 
			release and 
			dietary adjustments. Also, stress inducing life circumstances of a 
			very “ordinary” nature must all be deviated! Ordinary, in this 
			instance, means not of an ethereal nature directly.
 
 Q: (P) Well, I have taken several steps in that direction.
 A: Some, but it is like putting a “bandaid” on a gunshot wound.
 
 Q: (P) What is the implant I have made of?
 A: Silicon based micron definitive construct.
 
 Q: (P) Is this why I have this scar?
 A: Scar is manifestation of scar in being.
 
 Q: (S) I have been having some serious problems with joint pain in 
			my fingers and I would like to know what to do to make this better 
			because I think that taking pain pills is something that hides the 
			symptoms and does nothing for the cause.
 A: Not true, S, sometimes pain killers cure cause as well as 
			symptom. This is 
			simply reversal of therapy. The symptom dies, thus cutting off the 
			energy flow of the causative problem. Then the root cause dies if 
			its “fuel supply” is interrupted for an adequate duration.
 
 Q: (L) Will this work on me?
 A: You need to utilize herbal therapies and nerve or neural blocking 
			techniques, 
			such as self hypnosis and Reiki and acupuncture.
 
 Q: (L) Well, I have been having a HORRIBLE pain in my leg that makes 
			me unable to walk without a cane. What is causing this pain?
 A: Tissue nodular grains passing through vascular region affected by 
			mild 
			thrombosis. Try nutragina and roots of water based plants such as 
			spirulina, for starters.
 
 Q: (L) Isn’t neutrogina a soap?
 A: Base is edible and topical.
 
 Q: (L) Anything else on that?
 A: Chlorella.
 
 Q: (L) Where do I get that?
 A: Leafy green vegetables.
 
 Q: (L) P has been having almost an identical pain in HER leg, is it 
			a similar condition?
 A: Psychological pressures register in the physical. When acute 
			psychological 
			pressures are evident.
 
 Q: (L) (P) When is this acute pressure going to end?
 A: Open. We recommend ginseng and gaurana also for herbal remedies 
			for
			displaced fatigue.
 
 Q: (L) I am getting tired.
 A: Good Night.
 
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			 January 27, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, PZ, PkZ, SV
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello.
 A: Hello.
 
 Q: (L) Who do we have with us?
 A: Sorria.
 
 Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) If you will bear with us tonight, we would like to ask a 
			couple of health related questions.
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) First, is this sickness that I am experiencing part of an 
			‘attack?’
 A: As always.
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to terminate this kind of attack?
 A: No. Prevent? Yes!
 
 Q: (L) What can one do to prevent these kinds of attack?
 A: Always watch all portals! Those around you are all portals 
			always!
 
 Q: (L) So, we are all portals. If everybody is a portal, it seems 
			that you could spend all your time watching all of them and never 
			get anything else done!
 A: Incorrect, when portals are activated, you will know if you are 
			watching!!! Your problem has been “falling down on the job,” especially not 
			being aware of the danger presented by those closest to you. You 
			tend to expect attack to always come from more or less disassociated 
			parties, and you frequently confuse issues: mode and source!
 
 Q: (L) Well, is this especially true as we are on the verge of 
			getting the magazine out and getting some things out on the 
			internet?
 A: Of course, that should be obvious.
 
 Q: (L) Does that also include P’s aches and pains every time we try 
			to get the work done?
 A: Yes, and expect more.
 
 Q: (L) Well, I am so sick that I am ready to throw in the towel.
 A: Throw in the towel?!? It’s too late!! And besides, your life will
			dramatically improve if you persevere, as we have told you.
 
 
				Q: (L) 
			Susan has had several dreams about a storm coming and having to 
			batten down the hatches and relocating... A: Susan must inquire.
 
 Q: (S) In my dream, it was either a physical move, or a moving on to 
			something. Am I moving out of town in a physical way, is it a 
			spiritual moving on, or am I moving in a different direction in 
			terms of my path?
 A: That is four questions at once.
 
 Q: (S) Am I going to be leaving the area?
 A: Do you desire to?
 
 Q: (S) No, I don’t.
 A: Then why would you expect that you would?
 
 Q: (S) Well, that’s what the dream was, but I know it’s symbolic. Do 
			you think maybe I could be moving on, hopefully spiritually? What 
			does it mean, my moving on or relocating?
 A: Vague.
 
 Q: (S) Well, I just wonder in what way...
 (L) Susan has said that 
			she thinks this dream means she is going to die...
 A: Susan, ask your questions directly, please! If you “beat around 
			the bush,” 
			we will also!
 
 Q: (S) Will I be moving into 5th density soon?
 A: What is “soon?”
 
 Q: (S) Will it be sometime this year?
 A: Only if you do something that might best be described as “ill 
			advised.”
 
 Q: (S) Because of all these dreams about me moving on, could it have 
			something to do with, like, in an earlier session you said that I 
			was a, um, I was held over in 5th density as a learning channel. 
			Now, I must have been learning important to be held over as many 
			times as I was. Will whatever I was learning in 5th density come in 
			handy in this lifetime, maybe?
 A: What do you think you have been doing for the past year, as you 
			measure 
			“time?” And, what is “moving on?”
 
 Q: (S) Progressing?
 A: Yes!!
 
 Q: (S) You mean that what I am learning here, the knowledge I am 
			getting here?
 A: That is beside the point, somewhat.
 
 Q: (S) The only other thing is therapy... is it the channeling?
 A: Both, and more to come.
 
 Q: (S) Well, I feel like I am just wasting my time in doing the 
			therapy...
 A: Let it flow, Susan, don’t worry about what all the twists and 
			turns along the 
			way mean... It is the destination that matters, and that is not for 
			you to know yet.
 
 Q: (S) In all these dreams, I am repeatedly packing up to move.
 (L) 
			Why are you worried about it? Let it flow.
 (S) Because I have never 
			had dreams that repeated over and over. This is a first for me...
 A: Have you ever had other “firsts?”
 
 Q: (S) Yes...
 A: Did you panic over those?
 
 Q: (S) Sometimes.
 A: And what happened?
 
 Q: (S) I survived.
 A: So...?
 
 Q: (S) I just learn from them and grow from them...
 (L) And don’t we 
			just answer our own questions?
 (P) I have a question... the lady who 
			took the aura pictures the other night told me that I can astrally 
			project. Is this true?
 A: Everyone can.
 
 Q: (P) Am I special?
 A: Vague.
 
 Q: (P) America has a flag, does Cassiopaea have a symbol? I want a 
			symbol for my magazine... I mean your magazine...
 A: We have given two.
 
 Q: (L) The wheel with seven spokes and the triple pyramid with the 
			circle.
 (P) 
			Together?
 A: No. Ask more, Patrick, as two very recent events have served to 
			blast open 
			your learning channel.
 
 Q: (P) Then they must know exactly what I am going to ask. I want to 
			know if they can put something in my subconscious for the cover 
			design. I need proof.
 A: Proof, what is that?
 
 Q: (P) What is proof? Never mind. I’m afraid to ask.
 A: Ask, what do you think we will do? Disintegrate you where you 
			sit?
 
 Q: (P) The rumbling... does everybody have this... the rumbling 
			sound in my head?
 A: Vague, but we will answer if “everyone” were to choose to have 
			it, then 
			everyone would have it.
 
 Q: (L) What is it that Patrick perceives as a rumbling in his head. 
			Apparently, when he turns it on, it has a pronounced effect on his 
			aura.
 A: Turn on a radiio between channels, and what do you hear?
 
 Q: (L) Static.
 (P) Buzzing. More than one channel?
 (L) What are the 
			channels?
 A: That is not the issue. Turn on a radio that has its tuner between 
			channels, 
			and what do you hear???
 
 Q: (L) You hear static. And this would imply that the radio could be 
			tuned.
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (P) And that is what I need to work on?
 A: If you wish.
 
 Q: (L) I don’t know too many people who can turn this on and off...
 A: But you know people who have it “on” all the time, and always 
			tuned.
 
 Q: (L) I guess.
 (P) Does it have anything to do with why the aliens 
			did not abduct me back in 1987 on the road trip through 
			Pennsylvania.
 A: That is not important.
 
 Q: (L) Yes. They wanted his mom, not him!
 (P) Do I have an implant?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (P) Will I have an implant?
 A: ?
 
 Q: (L) Sheldon Nidle has written a book called “Becoming a Galactic 
			Human.” He has said that the Earth is going to go into a photon belt 
			sometime this summer, that there is going to be 3 days of darkness, 
			and the poo is going to hit the fan, so to speak, the aliens are 
			going to land in the late summer or the fall, and they are all 
			coming here to help us. Could you comment on these predictions?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Is a fleet of aliens going to land on Earth and be announced 
			by the media in 1996?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (P) In 1997?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Could you comment on the source of this book: “Three days of 
			Darkness,” by Divine Mercy?
 A: Source?!?
 
 Q: (L) Well, is there going to be 3 days of darkness in 1998 like it 
			says?
 A: Why does this continue to be such a popular notion? And, why is 
			everyone so 
			obsessed with, are you ready for this, trivia...? Does it matter if 
			there is three days of darkness?!? Do you think that is the “be all 
			and end all?” What about the reasons for such a thing?... at all 
			levels, the ramifications? It’s like describing an atomic war in 
			prophecy by saying: “Oh my, oh my, there is going to be three hours 
			of a lot of big bangs, oh my!!”
 
 
				Q: (L) Well, you didn’t say it 
			wasn’t going to happen in the fall of 1998. Is it? A: First of all, as we have warned you repeatedly, it is literally 
			impossible to 
			attach artificially conceived calendar dates to any sort of prophecy 
			or prediction for the many reasons that we have detailed for you 
			numerous times. [Note: the ‘fluid’ nature of the future. 
			Probability, etc.] And we have not said that this was going to 
			happen.
 
 Q: (L) I know that you are saying that this 3 days of darkness is 
			trivial considering the stupendous things that are involved in realm 
			crossings. But, a lot of these people are interpreting this as just 
			3 days of darkness.. then wake up in paradise. I would like to have 
			some sort of response to this question.
 A: Trust us to lead you when and how it is appropriate. You should 
			already know 
			that to attempt apply 3rd density study and interpretations to 4th 
			density events and realities is useless in the extreme... This is 
			why UFO researchers keep getting 3 new questions for every 1 answer 
			they seek with their “research.” If you will trust us, we will 
			always give you not only the most correct answers to each and every 
			inquiry, but also the most profound answers. If the individual does 
			not understand, then that means they are either prejudiced, or not 
			properly tuned in.
 
 Q: (L) Previously you told us about the SouthWest region of the 
			United States becoming 4th density. Will the people who live there 
			become 4th density beings? Or will they be 3rd density beings in 3rd 
			density?
 A: Some of both bleedin and bleedout.
 
 Q: (L) Recently Freddie had an experience where he heard me calling 
			him as he was going in his door. Then, he heard Jason talking to him 
			here in my kitchen when Jason was up in bed. He was worried that it 
			meant something had happened, but it was apparently nothing of the 
			sort. So, what was it?
 A: Increased awareness of ethereal imprints.
 
 Q: (L) When I was standing at the washer the other night, I heard 
			someone clap their hands very loudly right behind me. Nobody was 
			there.
 A: Same.
 
 Q: (L) You said earlier that if I just persevere that my life will 
			improve dramatically and immediately. So, when you say this, do you 
			mean really sudden and in a big way?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) Are you going to give me any clues on this?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (Pk) Do you ever laugh?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (Pk) Do you miss being in 3rd density?
 A: Do you miss being in 2nd? Or first?
 
 Q: (Pk) Are you lauging at us?
 A: Yes. And no, Pk, we were 3rd density beings in fact we are you in 
			the
			“future!” We were you, and we are you, and we were 3rd density. Do 
			you understand the significance of the last statement, or would you 
			rather just brush it off? We are you and we were you and we were 3rd 
			density but we are not now 3rd density and you are not yet 6th 
			density.
 
 Q: (L) How do you spend your ‘time?’
 A: Teaching, sharing, assisting.
 
 Q: (L) What do you do for fun?
 A: That is fun!
 
 Q: (PZ) With each other?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (PZ) With who?
 A: Densities 1,2,3,4,5.
 
 Q: (PZ) Do we all have a guardian angel? Each and every one of us? 
			One to a person?
 A: Not correct concept.
 
 Q: (L) What is the correct concept?
 A: Not possible for you to comprehend.
 
 Q: (L) How do we get assistance from higher realms?
 A: By asking and...
 
 Q: (L) What is the limit to the kind of assistance we can receive?
 A: Limit?!? We live within a realm that includes no such thing!!!
 
 Q: (L) Well, the ‘angel thing’ is pretty big nowadays. There are an 
			awful lot of angels running around. My first thought was: ‘what 
			better way for the bad guys to deceive than to appear as angels.’
 A: Not true!!! STS CAN appear as entities incorrectly perceived as 
			“angels,” 
			but if it is really a sixth density being, incorrect perception is 
			not possible.
 
 
				Q: (L) I don’t understand. There are a LOT of beings 
			who deceive people. They produce phenomena, they do any number of 
			things including making people ‘feel good,’ have dreams, and all 
			that. What do you mean that incorrect perception is not possible? It 
			happens all the time! A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Well, what is the story here?
 A: Your perception abilities are short-circuiting due to vibrational
			interaction.
 
 Q: (L) If you there is anywhere in you a question about what you are 
			perceiving, then that question is an indication that all the rest of 
			what you are perceiving could be false?
 A: Part of the equation.
 
 Q: (L) So, if it is really a 6th density being, it will blow you 
			away to such an extent that there is NO question?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Now, what is the other part of the equation?
 A: Well, why do you question us? First of all, you question us 
			because the 
			communication is limited at this point... you are not yet prepared 
			for stronger envelopment.
 
 Q: (PZ) So, I should continue to pray?
 A: All goes to 6th density.
 
 Q: (PZ) Okay, let’s say that I have a little child who is dying of 
			leukemia, and I am praying with everything in me, and the child dies 
			anyway. I don’t get it. What’s the deal here?
 A: Wrong. If child dies, that is your lesson profile.
 
 Q: (PZ) Well, why isn’t my lesson profile with this particular 
			situation that is going on in my life right now, why isn’t it 
			continuing? I thought that maybe I need to...
 A: Is it over yet, Pat?
 
 Q: (PZ) No, it isn’t over yet, but...
 A: So, what is your question, if it is not yet concluded?
 
 Q: (PZ) Can you feel what I am thinking?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (PZ) So, why do I need to ask?
 A: Because we never interfere with free will.
 
 Q: (PZ) If I continue to pray, things will continue to get better?
 A: Things will stay on their intended course.
 
 Q: (PZ) Are you telling me that my life has been predestined?
 A: No. If you continue to pray, there is no chance of your lessons 
			being 
			interrupted or deferred. Clarify.
 
 Q: (PZ) Well, that sounds like it is going to continue, it is not 
			going to stop.
 A: No, clarify means to solidify your understanding of the answer.
 
 Q: (PZ) Well, I don’t understand.
 (L) I think it is pretty clear 
			that the things you are experiencing are part of the lessons.
 A: Whatever that is... i.e.: que sera sera.
 
 Q: (PZ) But then, we are back to predestiny?
 A: No, lessons.
 
 Q: (PZ) Well, how many damn lessons do you have to get?
 A: As many “damn” lessons as you need!
 
 Q: (S) What about the prayers that are directed to Jesus?
 A: Jesus is one of us in “special service” sector.
 
 Q: (L) Like a “green beret?”
 A: No, more like a “beige beret.”
 
 Q: (L) What is a ‘beige beret?’
 A: Just our term.
 
 Q: (PZ) Well, I have just always wondered if this praying business 
			is a bunch of malarkey.
 (L) Oh, no.
 (PZ) If I pray a rosary, I am 
			praying to the Virgin Mary. Who is she? Where is she?
 A: “She” is here too.
 
 Q: (PZ) Does that prayer go directly to her and does she then send 
			you out to do whatever?
 A: She is not really a she. And when you write to “Ann Landers,” 
			does she 
			really see it? And Good night.
 
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			 February 3, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, SV, PZ, SZ, MM, Sandra, Tom F., Cherie D., PkZ
 Q: 
			(L) Hello.
 
				
				A: Words mean little. 
 Q: (L) What does that mean?
 A: Your commentary.
 
 Q: (L) My commentary?
 A: SV’s.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, who do we have with us this evening?
 A: Vostokokki.
 
 Q: (L) Where are you transmitting from?
 A: Cass.
 
 Q: (L) Why are you not spelling Cassiopaea as is usual?
 A: We have addressed this in prior sessions. Please review.
 
 Q: (L) We have several questions tonight. Do you have any particular 
			messages for anyone here first?
 A: The need to deliver messages flows naturally, there is no way to
			“choreograph” it by requesting a specific “time” for this procedure. 
			And, please tell SV to relay specifically when we place words in 
			quotes!!!!! It is annoying to not get messages properly transmitted 
			when it is important for each entity receiving to absorb every 
			detail of the given messages as it is intended. We have up until now 
			not said anything about this, in the hopes that she would learn this 
			by herself, but alas, she has not. Therefore, we regret the 
			necessary reprimand. Sorry SV, but now please be aware that you have 
			been told, and do not make this error ever again!
 
 Q: (L) Goodness! All I did was ask if there was a message for 
			anyone!
 A: But it is important for you to continue at the same steady pace.
 
 Q: (L) Can I continue with the questions now?
 A: Obviously, it is always possible to do all that you desire to 
			attempt.
 
 Q: (L) First question: there were rumors on the internet that a 
			respected scientist described a ‘ship’ in orbit around the planet 
			Saturn, which was said to be as large as the planet Earth. And, 
			supposedly, he said that the photographs from the space probe that 
			sent back the pictures of Saturn’s rings, showed this ship clearly 
			with portholes in it. Is this thing seen in orbit around Saturn, 
			described by this NASA scientist on television, which I cannot 
			confirm because I did not see it, is it, in fact, an artificially 
			constructed craft of some sort?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) What was being seen?
 A: It was an artificially constructed tale.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, there is a fellow, TF, who has been hanging around PZ’s 
			printshop, who has a VERY strange story about his past and present. 
			The funny thing is, all the odd things about his story that we were 
			discussing recently, he explained point by point the following day 
			as though he had been listening to our conversation and knew of our 
			doubts and suspicions. Who is this guy and what are his objectives 
			where PZ is concerned?
 A: Best not to discuss issues which threaten to interfere with free 
			will 
			directive. Suggest you stay “on your toes” with this one!
 
 
				Q: (L) Is 
			there anything about this that you can tell us that does not 
			interfere with free will? A: Have you not thought to gently inquire of the individual in 
			question? And if 
			not, why not? Generally, those involved in a ruse, be it simple or 
			complex, are uncomfortable with graduated incremental disclosure!
 
 
				Q: 
			(L) Is one of the reasons you cannot discuss this more freely 
			because we have such a large group this evening? A: Who says we are not discussing it freely? Subtle answers that 
			require effort 
			to dissect, promote intensified learning.
 
 Q: (L) Okay. I made the observation that if the fellow was a 
			government spy, he would certainly have had a better cover story 
			that the one presented. Am I on the right track?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) And, sometimes it seems that alien programmed or controlled 
			individuals do not have stories that make sense, or are consistent, 
			because maybe there is some lack in their understanding of human 
			culture. Am I on the right track here?
 A: Sometimes is not all times.
 
 Q: (L) Well, the guy is really HUGE and has size 17 feet... he looks 
			like a Nephilim to me! Am I on the right track?
 A: It would be more fun if he had size “35” feet!
 
 Q: (L) Who has size 35 feet?
 A: If you meet them, “give us a call!”
 
 Q: (L) Are you joking with me? All kidding aside...
 A: You need to be aware of all “guys.”
 
 Q: (L) Does PZ have anything to be afraid of?
 A: What have we told you about knowledge as opposed to ignorance?!?
 
 Q: (L) PZ wants to know what his intentions are.
 A: Review answer two.
 
 Q: (PZ) Was he paranoid about the questions we were asking a week 
			prior to tonight?
 A: What happens to those who become uncomfortable?
 
 Q: (L) Well, they get out of the situation. So, start grilling 
			him...
 A: Not “grill.” We suggest subtle approach, or grill him 
			“rotisserie” style.
 
 Q: (L) Tonight, it seems that everyone wants to know who or what is 
			this El Chupacabras?
 A: We were not finished with the other subject. That is weighing 
			heavily on
 some minds present here. Ask, that is how one learns!!
 
 
				Q: (PZ) Do I 
			have any reason to be concerned about my actions regarding him, that 
			I called to check on him with the police and reported him to the 
			State Attorneys office? A: Possibly.
 
 Q: (PZ) Is it possible that there are ‘moles’ in the tiny little 
			police department here?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (PZ) Do I need to get a bodyguard?
 A: You are straying, please review.
 
 Q: (L) Was it a clue that if she stays “on her toes” he won’t step 
			on here with his size 17 feet?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (PZ) Pk seems to believe everything he says.
 A: Ask Pk.
 
 Q: (L) What do you think, Pk?
 (Pk) I think he does a little bit of 
			double-talk, but not as much as everybody thinks.
 A: That is not the issue.
 
 Q: (L) Is the specific issue whether this guy has any alien 
			connections...
 A: No, that is not it.
 
 Q: (PZ) Is he monitoring us?
 A: Review answer two.
 
 Q: (L) It must be the one about inquiring in subtle ways.
 A: Now, ask yourself (PZ): How likely is it that anyone with a 
			tremendous
			ability to supposedly create such massive amounts of income, would 
			just “walk in the door” and offer you a partnership in an endeavor 
			that is going to produce such riches, as the person in question has 
			described to you? If this individual has such tremendous acumen, why 
			would he want to share the “bounty?” Remember the old saying: if 
			something sounds too good to be true...
 
 
				Q: (L) Okay, can we ask now 
			about El Chupacabras? A: It is what it is.
 
 Q: (L) It is a ‘goatsucker.’ Where does it come from?
 A: Review transcripts re: “window fallers.”
 
 Q: (L) If it is a window faller, does it come from another density, 
			or a lateral dimension?
 A: Closer to the latter.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, so it is like a horizontal dimension. What allowed it 
			to enter our realm?
 A: This is complex, but best described as “EM wave bursts along 
			frequency border 
			variation.”
 
 Q: (L) Is there some way to capture or stop this creature?
 A: You do not yet completely understand all the “mechanics” of the 
			window faller 
			phenomenon. The physicality is entirely transitory and partially 
			dependent upon consciousness variabilities, as well as expectations 
			of witnesses.
 
 
				Q: (L) Does the energy of the fear of the witness 
			enable the creature to continue its existence? Does it feed on the 
			excitement and fear, and is that what makes it manifest? A: Close, but off a little. It is the other way around, and 
			retro-factored by 
			one half.
 
 Q: (L) What do you mean by that?
 A: It is mutual, rather than unilateral. Also, remember that a 
			window falling 
			represents a cross-energizing of realities, equally represented from 
			each “dimension” in question. In other words, because the 
			dimensional curtain has been “torn,” half of one and half of the 
			other contributes to the whole reality.
 Q: (L) Does this mean that 
			something from our reality is also scaring something in that other 
			reality?
 A: No, it does not “work” that way at all.
 
 Q: (L) Is there any possibility that this mutual creature is going 
			to turn its attention from animals to humans?
 A: Ditto last answer. And review response prior to that!
 
 Q: (L) Okay, now, there are a lot of current teachings that say that 
			the ‘dregs’ of other planets are being sent to Earth to ‘refine’ 
			them, so to speak, and that this is why the human race is so divided 
			and antagonistic... that the interactions are supposed to result in 
			annihilation of the weak and survival of the strong in both physical 
			and spiritual terms.
 A: First of all, confusion abounds here due to incorrect 
			interpretations of the 
			last subject discussed. Dimensions are not densities!!!! Dimensions 
			are strictly the result of the universal consciousness as manifested 
			in the imagination sector of thought. Density means level of 
			development as measured in terms of closeness to union with the 
			one... Cycle. So, obviously, the “chupacabras” is a manifestation of 
			human consciousness, and, human beings are a manifestation of the 
			Chupacabras consciousness. Get it? Now, a shocker for you: You would 
			not exist if someone didn’t “dream you up.”
 
 
				Q: (L) Who dreamed me 
			up? A: Not important just yet. You literally are the “figments” of 
			someone’s 
			imagination, and nothing more!!!
 
 Q: (L) You mean God dreams and brings us into existence?
 A: Remember, “God” is really all existence in creation, in other 
			words, all 
			consciousness. This is because all existence in creation is 
			consciousness, and vice versa.
 
 Q: (L) So, the issues of racial superiority that are brought up in 
			the Urantia book can be answered by ‘anything is possible?’
 A: Close, but remember, all there is is lessons!
 
 Q: (L) Is it true that the ‘dregs’ of other planets are being sent 
			to earth?
 A: That would be subjective.
 
 Q: (MM) I would like to know if the Cassiopaeans are familiar with 
			the entity that was on the three dimensional level known as 
			Paramahansa Yogananda?
 A: Third density, not three dimensional. And yes, but this entity 
			had many 
			aliases: Thorn, Christian, Mobson Singh, etc.
 
 Q: (MM) Where is Paramahansa now?
 A: Fifth Density.
 
 Q: (MM) Is he the Avatar?
 A: That is a subjective, artificial concept of the self- styled 
			variety.
 
 Q: (MM) Who came up with the concept?
 (W) I don’t know. I read it in 
			a book somewhere.
 (L) So, someone said he is now an Avatar?
 A: Is Debbie a “shaman,” is Billy a “hero,” is Oscar a “blade 
			runner?”
 
 Q: (L) I read Yogananda’s book and it seemed that he might be a very 
			holy person. He seemed to have very loving concepts and practices in 
			his life.
 (MM) I just wanted to know where he is now.
 (L) Fifth 
			density, they said.
 (MM) Does fifth density have anything to do with 
			Venus?
 A: That is not a proper conceptualization.
 
 Q: (L) Well, fifth density is the contemplation and recycling 
			‘zone.’ (MM) Well, at the centers, the ashrams and shrines, people 
			swear that he appears to them. I was curious also about the entity 
			in my home.
 A: This is a hanger-on from visit with W at her domain. It is an 
			Energy
			seeking renewal.
 
 Q: (L) Is MM’s critter an STS or STO entity?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) How does it make you feel?
 (MM) I am tired all the time.
 (L) 
			How can 
			she get rid of it?
 A: Spirit release.
 
 Q: (MM) Was it attached to W first?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (MM) Is this what set off my fire alarm?
 A: Energy therefrom.
 
			[Break]  
				
				Q: (L) Sandra wants to know about her uncle who just died in 
			January.
 (S) Where is he?
 A: He is at 5th density.
 
 Q: (S) Is he having a hard time adjusting?
 A: No, but remember, there is no “time” there.
 
 Q: (S) Many members of the family have reported having visions and 
			dreams of him. What are these caused by?
 A: Various processes.
 
 Q: (L) I guess you have to ask about specific ones. Are any of these 
			caused by Uncle Andrew himself visiting?
 A: That is too simplified.
 
 Q: (L) I guess you have to specify...
 A: No, you don’t understand. We meant that your comment was too 
			simplified.
 The question is: are any of these manifestations Uncle Andrew?
 
 Q: (S) He appeared to his oldest daughter ...
 A: The concept is faulty.
 
 Q: (L) The idea of any of them being Andrew, I guess.
 (S) So, the 
			appearances are all their own expectations?
 A: No, not always, but we are trying to teach.
 
 Q: (S) Is he at peace?
 A: Yes. Do you want to learn, or would you prefer to assume?
 
 Q: (L) What are these manifestations?
 A: They are 5th density thought projection energy waves.
 
 Q: (L) So, his family are picking up these 5th density thought 
			energy waves.
 A: You are not following well.
 
 Q: (S) So, when the family members are seeing negative things, it is 
			just their own guilt?
 A: There is no time on 5th density. All event sequences happen 
			eternally and 
			for an instant only at once.
 
 Q: (L) How does that relate to the question?
 A: Because you asked if he was at peace, and if he was “adjusting.” 
			Do you not 
			see that by the “time” you realize someone is “dead,” they have 
			already, in essence, experienced their entire 5th density 
			incarnation recycling, learning and contemplative experience in 
			“zero time?!”
 
 Q: (L) Sandra wants to know how many times she has been ‘recycled’ 
			as a human being?
 A: 84.
 
 Q: (S) I knew it! That’s why this body is breaking down in pieces! 
			(PZ) What about me?
 A: 73.
 
 Q: (L) SZ?
 A: 73.
 
 Q: (L) PZ?
 A: 65.
 
 Q: (PZ) Have Shayna and I known each other in another life?
 A: Yes, all have and do. Number of incarnations does not 
			predetermine schedule 
			for graduation. And you, my dear, are too fatigued, so Good Night.
 
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			 February 8, 1996
 
 Freddie, Laura, SV
 
				
				Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
 A: Wikijia.
 
 Q: (L) And where are you from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) Last Saturday night we had a very large group of people here 
			and I experienced very unpleasant sensations. I would like to know 
			the source of these?
 A: The question is vague.
 
 Q: (L) Was the channel corrupted?
 A: Not corrupted, diluted. Static em discharge from two entity 
			sectors.
 
 Q: (L) What is the source of these entity sectors?
 A: We have explained in detail these structure of this in prior 
			sessions.
 
 Q: (L) Was this due to the presence of any one or more persons in 
			the room?
 A: One but two.
 
 Q: (L) One person but two entities?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Who was the one person?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) Well you said, at the time, that (name deleted) had an 
			attachment and needed spirit release, is this the same person?
 A: You learn by answering, using your own learnings, not from 
			ceaseless
			confirmations by us.
 
 Q: (L) Well, I am obviously not learning too well, because I was 
			dead wrong on the missing girl, and you were telling me about my 
			“amazing abilities” which were not so amazing in that case!
 A: All who have amazing abilities must too guard against corruptive 
			forces from 
			within and without having to do with prejudice, assumption, and the 
			anticipatory desires involving patterning presumption. i.e. keep an 
			open mind, always!!!
 
				Q: (L) Well, this leads me to the situation 
			with the mothers: can you give us any immediate advice on this. A 
			clue as to how to settle this situation.
 A: Advice was given; not followed!
 
 Q: (L) What advice was given that was not followed?
 (SV) Only about 
			the living will for my mom.
 A: Did we identify source of the advice?
 
 Q: (L) What is the source of the advice?
 A: Transposed by Susan!!!
 
 Q: (L) Do you mean the advice Freddie gave Susan?
 A: First things first! Please, Susan, try to be accurate!
 
 Q: (L) Well, the situation is gummy right now...
 A: You were warned, Susan! Please, please, please, please, when you 
			call or cry 
			out for help and or guidance, know that we will always, always, 
			always answer. It is up to you to be aware and then trust and 
			follow. If your deepseated stubbornness prevents this, it will 
			result in nothing short of your total undoing! This is because we 
			never give such warnings, except when Vitally necessary! This 
			applies to all others present equally as well!!
 
 
				Q: (L) Well, 
			remember that you don’t want to work your way into your own undoing, 
			I guess, so you ought to begin to overcome your stubbornness about 
			not facing things that need to be dealt with, and doing it. And, 
			from what they are saying, you will get all the support you will 
			need from us and them if you just ask.(SV) Lesson learned, I hope. 
			(L) This is a tough subject, any more on it?
 A: Up to you.
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything further you can add?
 A: The situation will resolve naturally as all situations do...
 
 Q: (L) Is there any advice you can give for mom so that she is 
			better able to cope with the situation?
 A: Reading will help relieve her stress. She can get the correct 
			materials 
			herself.
 
 Q: (L) So, I guess it is up to you to see that she gets time to 
			relax and read. 
			Okay, next issue: the computer problem. Is it an attack to prevent 
			the 
			magazine?
 A: Could be viewed as such.
 
 Q: (L) Is it going to be resolved quickly?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is our involvement with Pat fortuitous or potentially 
			disastrous?
 A: Either.
 
 Q: (L) You said before, that when we got things going that 
			everything would improve suddenly and dramatically, and immediately. 
			We understood that to mean getting online dialogues going and also 
			getting the magazine out. Are we going to be able to do this soon?
 A: As soon as needed.
 
 Q: (L) Thank you. Good Night.
 A: Good Night.
 
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			 February 17, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, SV
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello.
 A: Hello.
 
 Q: (L) We have several questions on the list I would like to get to 
			before anyone else gets here. Actually, Sue has some questions about 
			her investing strategy.
 A: Who are we?
 
 Q: (L) I’m sorry. Who do we have with us tonight?
 A: Piliannah.
 
 Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, now that we are connected...
 A: Ask specific questions.
 
 Q: (L) In rereading the session on the economy and investing and so 
			forth, I was wondering if we are, at least, on schedule or the right 
			track?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) One thing noted was, ‘if you play by the rules, you cannot 
			survive, if you don’t play by the rules, you will do quite well, 
			indeed.’ What specific rules do you mean?
 A: Vague. Review the text.
 
 Q: (L) Well, one of the rules was ‘working very hard and earning 
			your bread by the sweat of your brow.’ You said that was trap number 
			one...
 A: No, working for someone else; not how “hard” one does it.
 
 Q: (L) The other thing was about investing. You said that storing it 
			in banks was useless, and you suggested to invest...
 A: These were suggestions, not limitations.
 
 Q: (L) You also suggested publishing...
 A: We suggested you ask directly to be published.
 
 Q: (L) I talked to Val, and he has apparently become enamored of 
			Drunvalo Melchizidek, and Frank De Marco bounced back the material.
 A: That is two only, and of neither did you ask directly and with 
			humility. Remember, sophistication and the upkeep of an appearance of “stature 
			or professionalism” are to be avoided here! Forget “images,” and 
			concentrate on intent with sincerity. You are very skilled at 
			“getting your point across,” if you are sufficiently motivated to do 
			so. Do not let self-importance interfere!
 
 
				Q: (L) What are you 
			talking about!?! Do you have any idea how much work I have done? How 
			much I have sent out? The numbers of people?! A: Just ask: Please publish this work.
 
 Q: (L) I do not think you are grasping the situation here! There are 
			two choices: a publishing house that pays you or a publishing house 
			YOU pay!
 A: You have not contacted all sources.
 
 Q: (L) Of course I haven’t contacted ALL!!! Do you have any idea how 
			much money it costs to mail out that manuscript? There is no way I 
			could possibly send it out to them all! You are being completely 
			unrealistic for 3rd density here!
 A: Then, network.
 
 Q: (L) This is ridiculous! You don’t know what you are talking 
			about. You are in 6th density, this is 3rd density.
 (S) No, look at 
			that computer. There are a lot of people who know other people. 
			Surely somebody knows somebody who works for a publisher?
 (L) Sue, 
			you aren’t getting it... I have a file of rejection letters. Do you 
			want to see them?
 A: What text did you send?
 
 Q: (L) Noah, it is the only thing that is in readable form.
 A: Who says?
 
 Q: (L) Well, for goodness sake, you ought to know that the 
			transcripts are not suitable to send out to anyone in the chopped up 
			and scattered shape they are in!
 A: Avoid prejudice!
 
 Q: (L) So, what you are talking about is sending out the transcripts 
			of the sessions. Is that it?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Well, that’s not what I was talking about! If you guys know 
			so much, how come you didn’t know that?
 A: We did.
 
 Q: (L) Well, “tales are easy to sew, when the past is yours only to 
			know!”
 A: Good one!
 
 Q: (L) Yeah, I got it from you!
 A: If you ask to be published, you will be published! Also, we 
			suggest it not 
			be piecemeal, but all inclusive! And use your networking skills.
 
 Q: (S) Look at how many people write to you asking questions...
 A: It need not be further “organized.” We have done that for you. 
			Just have 
			faith!!!! We have told you, we do not give false advice.
 
 Q: (L) I am confused here.
 A: Then inquire.
 
 Q: (L) We were thinking that putting out the magazine with Pat was 
			the way to go. And, all the other things that could go in there... 
			Is that a vain assumption?
 A: Things, maybe, but not a book. Magazine is “cool,” but not the 
			book.
 Publish the book elsewhere!
 
 Q: (L) Well, since you could give me the name of a chiropractor, why 
			can’t you give me the name of a publisher?
 A: Because it violates learning directive. But note: it is close at 
			“hand.”
 
 Q: (L) I don’t get it.
 A: What do you spend so much “time” doing with your hands?
 
 Q: (L) I type... letters to people on the net...
 A: Lightbulb?
 
 Q: (S) Bright idea!
 (L) No, it has to be more complicated than that.
 A: Look for a directory of publishers, and their mail addresses, for 
			example.
 
 Q: (L) Well, I have had enough on that subject. That’s enough.
 A: No, it is not!!!
 
 Q: (L) Okay. I look for a directory of publishers... then what?
 A: What do you think?
 
 Q: (L) Anything else?
 A: Ask.
 
 Q: (L) Well, how will I know the right one when I find them? I can’t 
			just send it out all over the place!
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) What else is there?
 A: Much else... You know how you like treasure hunts, Laura?!? Then 
			learn to 
			like this one.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, what is the next clue in this treasure hunt?
 A: Network!!! Do you yet understand what we mean when we say that? 
			Yet?
 
 Q: (L) I guess that means that you share information on the net?
 A: Yes. And... Read John Naisbitt. We have direct communications 
			with him,
			too!
 
 Q: (L) Who is he?
 A: “Megatrends.”
 
 Q: (L) Oh, I have the book. Are you telling me that you communicate 
			with him?
 A: Yes. Now, read chapter headings!!!
 
 Q: (L) Okay: ‘Industrial Society to an Information Society.’ ‘Force 
			Technology, to High Tech,’ ‘National Economy to World Economy,’ 
			‘Short Term to Long Term,’ ‘Centralization to Decentralization,’ 
			‘Institutional Help to Self Help,’ ‘Hierarchies to Networking,’ 
			etc... Page 211, interesting numbers. Okay, anything else you want 
			to add?
 A: In you “spare time,” read and absorb, and look for the clues 
			there. This 
			will allow you to use your resources more efficiently, thus quickly 
			achieving goals.
 
 Q: (L) Okay.
 (F) With an open mind. No prejudice!
 A: Yup.
 
 Q: (L) Can I ask my other questions? Some people on the net want me 
			to ask about this HAARP thing... seems to be some sort of antennae 
			thing...
 A: Disguise for something else.
 
 Q: (L) What is that something else?
 A: Project to apply EM wave theories to the transference of 
			perimeters.
 
 Q: (L) What does that mean?
 A: If utilized as designed, will allow for controlled invisibility 
			and easy
			movement between density levels on surface of planet as well as 
			subterranially.
 
 Q: (L) Who is in charge of building this thing?
 A: More than one entity.
 
 Q: (L) What groups?
 A: INVELCO is one guise as well as UNICON and banking interest.
 
 Q: (L) Who is in disguise as INVELCO and UNICON? Are they just dummy 
			companies for cover?
 A: Close.
 
 Q: (L) Can you tell us if this is a human organization or aliens, or 
			a combination?
 A: Human at surface level.
 
 Q: (L) Whose idea was this project?
 A: Not applicable.
 
 Q: (L) Is there more you can tell us about this?
 A: It has nothing to do with weather or climate. These things are 
			emanating 
			from 4th density, as we have told you before.
 
 Q: (L) Is this something like a TransDimensional Atom 
			Remolecularizer?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Is is something like what you said about the whole South West 
			going into 4th density?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) So, HAARP has nothing to do with the weather?
 A: And also EM associated with same as reported.
 
 Q: (L) So, when is this HAARP thing scheduled to go into operation?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) Is it currently in operation?
 A: Experimental.
 
 Q: (L) How long have they been working on this thing?
 A: Since the 1920s.
 
 Q: (L) What?! The 1920s?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Well, that certainly is strange. Change gears. I read the 
			other day about an association between UFOs and breaking things. Is 
			there?
 A: Some, yes.
 
 Q: (L) In the experiences that I had myself, where a lot of things 
			either broke 
			in some strange relation to me, or disappeared, and specifically the 
			incident 
			when Chloe and I were coming back from North Carolina and the window 
			in the car 
			exploded, were any of these events related to UFO activity?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) Well, Chloe wanted me to ask about the trip. Could you 
			comment on that?
 A: Maybe you should continue to probe Chloe to see what other 
			experiences she 
			has had, and why? There is much hidden there.
 
 Q: (L) Well, I recounted to her the flash of memory I had of the 
			incident that happened back in 1987 when I woke up and the house was 
			surrounded by a super bright light. My first thought was that there 
			was a whole bunch of trucks and cars surrounding the house with 
			their lights shining on it, that it was people my husband knew, 
			therefore he should handle it. I thought it was a joke and decided 
			that I didn’t need to worry about it. Later I woke up, reversed in 
			the bed, the bottom half of my gown was wet, and instead of going 
			nuts about this, I crawled out of the bed, which was against a wall, 
			and turned around and crawled back in and went to sleep. I told this 
			to Chloe, and pointed out to her how exceedingly crazy a thing it 
			was. To know that there was all this light shining on your house, 
			and to just go back to sleep, and then to wake up in such an odd 
			condition, and think nothing of it... just sweep it under the rug. 
			This happened around the same time the things were breaking. What 
			happened?
 A: What do you think?
 
 Q: (L) Well, it could have been a dream. It could just be a very 
			lucid dream.
 A: Seems dreams do tend to reverse one’s position on the bed, as a 
			general rule, 
			don’t they?
 
 Q: (L) Well, no need to be funny. The fact that my physical body was 
			reversed and I was wet would indicate an actual physical abduction, 
			I guess.
 A: Yup.
 
 Q: (L) Well, haven’t you said that actual physical abductions are 
			somewhat rare?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) That was when my hands started going numb, the horrible 
			headaches began...
 A: Probe Chloe, to see what things she is repressing.
 
 Q: (L) She did tell me that she was beginning to see some things... 
			We will leave that. On the news the other night, there was a new 
			type of AIDS reported. Where did it come from?
 A: Mutation of virus.
 
 Q: (L) The story is that it came from Thailand, is this true?
 A: Maybe.
 
 Q: (L) Is it already in the U.S?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) Well, it is supposed to be 8 times more contagious...
 A: But still transmitted in the same mode.
 
 Q: (L) Is AIDS transmissible by, for example, insects?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) By any means other than what is taught?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) How many people have died of true AIDS in the U.S.?
 A: 189,000
 
 Q: (L) How many people have it at present?
 A: Approx 1 million are HIV positive. Only 39 per cent will ever 
			develop AIDS.
 
 Q: (L) Anything that I ought to have asked that I did not? Can you 
			tell me anything that will help?
 A: Proceed with caution, as publishing soon to “explode.”
 
 Q: (L) We do have this online ‘chat’ with Mike Lindemann on ISCNI 
			tomorrow night. Any advice?
 A: Keep to the point, use simple English, avoid excessive verbiage, 
			or concepts 
			not universally understood, unless accompanied by an adequate 
			explanation.
 
				Q: (L) Okay, I guess we just press on with the 
			networking and the magazine for now... hope it creates some cash 
			flow because all that paper and printing is costing me an arm and a 
			leg!
 A: Soon to be solved!!
 
 Q: (L) Well, I need to know if I am pouring money into a useless 
			project here!
 A: No you don’t! Discovery is fun!
 
 Q: (L) Is anything unusual going to happen at the conference next 
			month?
 A: Wait and see!
 
 Q: (L) Thank you and good night.
 A: Good Night.
 
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			February 21, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, SV
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello.
 A: Hello.
 
 Q: (L) Who do we have with us?
 A: Yona.
 
 Q: (L) Where are you transmitting from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) SV has some issues tonight, and I guess that the first one is 
			that she is concerned about flying to Gulf Breeze. She wants to 
			know: Is the plane we are taking safe?
 A: Why would you expect otherwise?
 
 Q: (S) Well, the Lizzies could come along and blow the plane out of 
			the air!
 A: “Lizzies” could come along and blow up your cars.
 
 Q: (L) Do we have any protection from them?
 A: Knowledge/awareness acts as a shield, as we have told you.
 
 Q: (L) Well, speaking of that, SV had questions about investment 
			back in December and you described a strategy...
 A: One possible course of action, but not exclusive in nature.
 
 Q: (L) A couple of weeks ago you said “advice was given” that SV 
			didn’t follow. You then said that when she calls on you for advice, 
			that it was up to her as to whether she chose to trust and follow 
			the advice. Then you said that if her “deepseated stubbornness” 
			prevented this, it would result in her “total undoing.” She wants to 
			know what advice you gave that she did not follow?
 A: All.
 
 Q: (L) She thought she was handling it.
 A: You left portals “unwatched.”
 
 Q: (S) What portals were these?
 A: Emotions in motion.
 
 Q: (S) Relating to what?
 A: Ask yourself.
 
 Q: (L) Well, my thought is that it has to do with her mother.
 A: What specifically?
 
 Q: (L) Well, her mother and her emotions relating to her mother?
 A: Interconnected.
 
 Q: (S) I have been concerned.
 A: What about potential for discourse?
 
 Q: (S) What do you mean, discourse?
 (L) Discourse or discord?
 A: Either/or.
 
 Q: (L) We knew there was potential for discord.
 (S) Yes, we talked 
			about it.
 A: And what did you, Susan, do to prevent discord? Does talking 
			about it 
			amongst yourselves solve it?
 
 Q: (L) What did Susan not do?
 A: Ask Susan!!
 
 Q: (S) I talked with them...
 A: Talking about weeds does not solve a bug problem, does it?!
 
 Q: (L) What do you mean?
 A: Think! Avoidance does not solve!
 
 Q: (L) Did you ever say to them that you would put them back in the 
			home if they did not cooperate?
 (S) No, I never said that.
 (L) So, 
			you just talked about the weeds, and did not address the bugs. And, 
			your mom and Dick are so devious and manipulative that you really 
			have to tell them in a firm way about the consequences of their 
			behavior and what you WILL do if it continues. And, you have to make 
			it stick. You are just simply avoiding the whole issue.
 (S) Well, I 
			am going to take them to my house on Saturday and ask them how they 
			feel...
 (F) That’s not going to solve the problem. Of course they 
			are going to lie to you about everything and continue exactly as 
			they are doing.
 (L) SV, that is not dealing with YOUR issues with 
			your mother. Her control over you. You need to break that!
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Is that what SV has not done?
 A: Partly.
 
 Q: What else?
 A: Discuss for learning purposes!
 
 Q: (L) I have been getting the strong feeling that SV should not be 
			taking any more risks with her finances. SV paid off all her debts 
			with her capital instead of investing it to make more money. Was 
			that a good idea?
 A: What is a “good idea?”
 
 Q: (L) Well, she no longer has any investment capital, and if 
			anything happens to her mother...
 (S) I only have about 8K left, but 
			I believe that I should just do the best with what I have... maybe I 
			won’t have tons of money coming in, but a little here and a little 
			there...
 A: Okay, here comes one last financial suggestion: take one half of 
			your
 remaining capital and buy gold.
 
 Q: (S) Gold or gold options?
 A: Up to you.
 
 Q: (L) So, you are saying that now the whole deal has changed?
 A: Well of course, the situation has changed due to change in 
			circumstances 
			brought about by SV’s choices.
 
 Q: (L) Would it be advisable for her to get the cash out of her 
			credit line for investment?
 A: We advised on this. It is up to her.
 
 Q: (L) And, there is another thing: she is always stressed because 
			of the place she works.
 (S) Well, I can’t take the time to go to 
			every single chiropractor for stuff like that...
 A: Take time and go to one single computer terminal! And you can’t 
			presume 
			“stuff like that!”
 
 Q: (S) I want to know what you mean about ‘deep-seated stubbornness?
 A: We mean what we said, self-explanatory.
 
 Q: (S) I think everybody is stubborn in one way or another.
 (L) 
			Let’s change the subject. I have been getting a lot of mail on the 
			internet from the portions of transcript that I have posted.
 A: Tip of the ice-berg.
 
 Q: (L) Well, if it keeps up, I will need a secretary because it 
			seems that all I do is write answers to questions or send copies of 
			answers to questions to people asking the same questions...
 A: What fun!
 
 Q: (L) I am trying to keep up will all of it and I am being worn 
			out. I am working 18 hours a day... I am trying to keep up with all 
			the stuff that is coming in...
 A: And those of wisdom, know to follow paths most easily grooved.
 
 Q: (L) I have written to a LOT of people about the publishing... 
			when am I going to find what I am looking for? I am amazed at how 
			many people want to read the material after I have sent out these 
			excerpts.
 A: Then you should know our response.
 
 Q: (L) Wait and see?
 A: Bingo!! Did we not tell you, did we not advise you about the 
			network??!??
 
 Q: (L) Of course...
 A: And what did you do?
 
 Q: (L) Well, I did it as soon as I could...
 A: And what happened?
 
 Q: (L) The Lizzies tried to kill me! [laughter]
 A: The Lizard Force, i.e. STS, has been attacking you since day one. 
			We have 
			been advising you only for 1.5 years, as you measure it.
 
 
				Q: (L) The 
			situation is such that I am running out of force from working 
			against this constant oppression and opposition. Can you tell me if 
			I will ever have some peace of mind so that I can continue to 
			function? A: Have we?
 
 Q: (L) I guess. Okay, there is some valley in Canada that is 
			supposed to be very mysterious and it seems that no one will go to 
			the area any more because they all end up dead with their heads cut 
			off. Who is doing this? Is there some indians or cave people or 
			what?
 A: STS beings, density 4.
 
 Q: (L) Oh, goodness! Well, I think that I ought to ask something 
			else because I have this feeling that there is something right 
			around the corner, or something just out of my line of sight that I 
			do not see. I guess I am asking for unknown knowledge.
 A: Knowledge of an unknown nature is not knowledge.
 
 Q: (L) Okay. Anything else from anybody? SV, I guess you know what 
			you are supposed to do now... you screwed up big time...
 (S) Well, I 
			was always taught that...
 A: Rules. Good Night.
 
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			 February 24, 1996
 
			 Freddie, Laura, Susan, PZ, SZ, MM, W
 
				
				Q: (L) Hello.
 A: Hello.
 
 Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
 A: Vorta.
 
 Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
 A: Cassiopaea.
 
 Q: (L) First item: it seems that everyone in this room has been 
			experiencing some sort of major, cumulative problems, all on the 
			same day. Would you comment on this, please?
 A: Exception.
 
 Q: (L) What exception?
 A: Freddie. Move board over to left. Your left. [adjustment made] 
			More. 
			[further adjustment.] OK. Better centered.
 
 Q: Can you comment on SV’s situation since she is the most upset?
 A: Not unless you ask specifics.
 
 Q: (S) I know I am under attack and I am going to deal with it the 
			best way I can. It’s hard, but there is nothing else I can do. I 
			knew I was coming under attack because the clock that does not work 
			was humming again and that is always a sure sign.
 A: Concealment causes bereavement.
 
 Q: (L) Who is bereaved?
 A: Who is concealing?
 
 Q: (L) Are you trying to hide your emotional state?
 (S) Of course. 
			It’s my problem.
 (L) Well, remember what they told me: when I hurt 
			everyone else suffers.
 (S) But, if I don’t tell anyone else, then no 
			one else has to suffer.
 A: Networking provides solutions, and not just on the computer!!!
 
 Q: (S) Well, I am upset with everything about my mother. I know it 
			is my own fault... If I had left them at the home, everything would 
			have been fine.
 A: No.
 
 Q: (S) Well, it’s not fine now. Everybody is upset. Everybody is 
			miserable. 
			(F) It is certainly not a good situation.
 (S) I want to know about 
			this clock. 
			Is it really a warning signal as I think it is?
 A: What do you think? Remember, you learn on an exponential curve, 
			once you 
			have become “tuned in.” This means that you become increasingly able 
			to access the universal consciousness. Please learn to trust your 
			increasing awareness. All who are present here are at one point or 
			another on that cycle, or one point or another on that cycle of 
			progression, some further along than others. If you properly network 
			without prejudice, you may all wind up at the same point on this 
			cycle. We also mean that you can access the universal consciousness 
			to find the answers to otherwise unseen truths, such as the clock 
			vibrating as a sign of increased 4th density STS presence, for but 
			one example.
 
 
				Q: (L) Well, along this line, MM has a very strange 
			object appearing in aura photographs in her house and, more or less 
			with her. It appears to be a column of light, or a luminescent tube 
			of some sort. What is it? A: Represents conduit created by presence at locator which is in 
			direct 
			communication with higher density levels. And, in fact, there is 
			some degree of convergence between same.
 
 Q: (L) What presence are we talking about?
 A: Many and varied.
 
 Q: (L) And this is also a convergence point of densities?
 A: Not exactly; convergence is taking place to some degree.
 
 Q: (L) Are these presences STS or STO?
 A: Both.
 
 Q: (L) It is like a portal?
 A: Not a portal, it is a conduit. A portal is an opening allowing 
			influences to 
			manifest from higher density levels and downward. A conduit is a 
			“two way street.”
 
 Q: (W) What do they want MM to do?
 A: That is not the correct concept. Correction: A conduit develops 
			both because 
			of locator and... the entities present. It is not locator fixed.
 
 Q: (L) What should MM do in regard to this opening and these 
			presences?
 A: Nothing in particular... But it is up to MM to decide how to 
			handle the 
			situation.
 
 Q: (L) Are any of these presences connected to the statue?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) What kind of entity is connected with the statue?
 A: Fifth density holdover.
 
 Q: (L) Why is this being there?
 A: Chooses to be. And no, Laura, it is not a Lizard!!!
 
 Q: (L) Well, then what is it?
 A: Didn’t we just tell you?
 
 Q: (L) Yes. We were talking about that earlier. How dead dudes can 
			attach to things or people or houses or whatever. How are we going 
			to solve this?
 A: What needs to be solved?
 
 Q: (L) Can she use this conduit?
 A: Of course. And has already!!! If she had not, the conduit would 
			not exist!
 
 Q: (MM) How can I use it more effectively?
 A: This would violate learning directive.
 
 Q: (MM) What is the connection between the statue and myself?
 A: All is interconnected. Please refer to our first few responses of 
			this 
			session!
 
 Q: (L) She can use it to access universal consciousness?
 A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) Well, what can she do to maximize the STO presence and 
			minimize the STS use of the conduit?
 A: Oh Laura, my dear, seems you need a refresher course in the 
			transcripts. 
			Maybe suggest you read them and relax and privately listen to the 
			ones you have 
			not as of yet transcribed a little more. This would be extremely 
			helpful in 
			your many and increasing communications via the “net” as well. 
			Remember, we 
			help you to unlock answers that have been placed in your 
			superconsciousness
			files from before the “time” of the birth of your physical body. 
			Also, false information is worse than no information at all. Now, 
			for PZ: Please denote quote marks in your reading back of the 
			answers, in order to preserve the greatest possible meaning! Thank 
			you!
 
 Q: (MM) What is happening to me when I feel I am being touched in a 
			sleep or semi-sleep state?
 A: Various entities.
 
 Q: (MM) What is their purpose for doing this?
 A: Too vague to explain and this is learning material. Consult 
			karmic 
			references.
 
 Q: (MM) I would like to ask about my karma with W?
 A: Remember two things: Number one, there are better ways to access 
			this 
			information than to expect us to lead you by the hand, this is not 
			learning. 
			Number two, Too many personal questions begin to restrict the 
			channel!
 
 
				Q: (L) Mike Lindemann asked us if we would be interested in 
			utilizing ISCNI as a forum for the material. Is this an acceptable 
			forum? A: Okay.
 
 Q: (L) You also said that publishing would “explode.” Can you give 
			us any more on that?
 A: Is this “personal data night?”
 
 Q: (L) Well, I didn’t think it was personal data. I have a number of 
			questions from people all over the world that I need to get 
			answered, and it seems that people are interested, and I would like 
			to get the material out there.
 A: We have advised on this subject already, and patience is a virtue 
			which
 builds strength!
 
 Q: (L) Mike Lindeman has proposed that we submit the channeling to 
			‘rigorous testing.’
 A: Mike Lindemann does not channel, now does he? What sort of 
			rigorous testing
			does he propose?
 
 Q: (L) He didn’t say. I guess they want short-term predictions and 
			all sorts of little tests...
 A: Precisely, now what does this tell you?
 
 Q: It tells us that he wants proof.
 A: Third density “proof” does not apply, as we have explained again 
			and again.
 Now, listen very carefully: if proof of that type were possible, 
			what do you suppose would happen to free will, and thusly to 
			learning, Karmic Directive Level One?
 
 Q: (L) Well, I guess that if there is proof, you are believing in 
			the proof and not the spirit of the thing. You are placing your 
			reliance upon a material thing. You have lost your free will. 
			Someone has violated your free will by the act of PROVING something 
			to you.
 A: If anyone CHOOSES to believe, that is their prerogative!
 
 Q: (PZ) [unintelligible remark]
 A: You did not completely understand the previous response, Pat. And 
			what would 
			constitute proof?
 
 Q: (L) Predictions that came true, answers that were verifiable 
			about a number of things.
 A: Those would still be dismissed by a great many as mere 
			coincidences. We have 
			already given predictions, will continue to do so, but, remember, 
			“time” does not exist. This is a 3rd density illusion. We don not 
			play in that sandbox and cannot and never will. The primary reason 
			for our communication is to help you to learn by teaching yourselves 
			to learn, thereby strengthening your soul energy, and assisting your 
			advancement.
 
 Q: (L) Are you saying that your primary reason is just to teach us? 
			This small group?
 A: Because you asked for help.
 
 Q: (L) So, you came through because we asked. Is this material being 
			given to others, or is it designed to or intended to be shared with 
			others?
 A: If they ask in the necessary way. Otherwise, the sharing of the 
			messages we 
			give to you will teach millions of others.
 
 Q: (L) What is the ‘necessary way?’
 A: How “long did it take you?”
 
 Q: (L) Well, it took all our lives and a LOT of hard work.
 A: Okay, now what did we mean when we referred to “millions of 
			others?”
 
 Q: (L) Are you saying that this information will be transmitted in 
			some way to millions of others?
 A: In what way?
 
 Q: (L) Well, the only thing I can think of is through books.
 A: Bingo!!
 
 Q: (W) That’s a lot of work.
 A: The work has been ongoing, W!
 
 Q: (W) Well, it all has to be typed, and edited, and correlated and 
			put in a cohesive form, and it will be a couple of years....
 A: All will be taken care of, and no, W!.
 
 Q: (L) Well, that’s a clue! A concession!
 (W) Well, I was thinking 
			of the time frame and so many things are getting ready to happen any 
			time now. It seems like the information needs to get out there soon 
			or it will be obsolete.
 A: Prejudice serves no purpose! Also, who says that the information 
			is going to 
			be obsolete?
 
 Q: (PZ) What is the matter with just making photocopies and binding 
			it?
 A: Wait and see. And don’t be surprised if events supercede such 
			options.
 
 Q: (L) Well, that’s a clue! I wonder what they mean?
 A: Wait and see?
 
 Q: (W) I would like to know about this comet that is being talked 
			about on the internet that people say is going to crash into the 
			Earth on April 7th...
 A: Nonsense!!!
 
 Q: (L) Well, I am curious about PZs and MM and Ws mysterious phone 
			calls, and the strange guy who has been stalking PZ being seen 
			peering in the window at Freddie’s job. Are all of these things 
			interconnected.
 A: No comment. All of these things can be discovered by utilising 
			the methods
			we have taught you and the talents you possess and have learned 
			elsewhere.
 
 Q: (L) Well, group, have we answered all these questions yet?
 A: Facetiousness is humorous, so long as all present understand 
			intent!
 
 Q: (L) Recently I heard a clapping sound behind my back, and I spun 
			around and there was no one there. Gene B mentioned hearing the 
			“clapping” sounds behind him when he was meditating once. I 
			understand that this is like breaking the sound barrier when 
			something comes through from another density...
 A: Not “sound” barrier, just “barrier” will do!
 
 Q: (L) Well, in regard to PZ’s situation...
 A: PZ has had “situations” going on for some time, as you measure 
			it.
 
 Q: (L) Well, considering her husband’s work, her own work, her 
			security clearances... and that it is very common to get the funny 
			phone calls and now W has also had these phone calls...
 A: Greys.
 
 Q: (L) Well, there was a woman on television who had claimed that 
			she was being abducted. She left a voice activated tape recorder on 
			her night table, and during the night a strange, metallic sounding 
			voice was recorded which said: 
			‘don’t wake up,’ and it was the strangest thing you ever heard. And, 
			Karla Turner had the same sort of thing going on with her.
 (MM to W) 
			Should we tell them who this was that was calling?
 (L) Who, God?
 (MM) No. Go ahead.
 (W) I can only tell you who he claimed to be. He 
			died in 1952. It was Paramahansa.
 (MM) Yes. I went out and found a 
			tape of Yogananda, and it was HIS voice! And then the tape fried my 
			karaoke machine.
 (L) Well, it either was, or it wasn’t. Was the 
			voice that of Yogananda? Can we ask?
 A: You can ask.
 
 Q: (L) Well, was it?
 A: Was it?
 
 Q: (L) Well, where is Yogananda now?
 A: Fifth density.
 
 Q: (L) So, Yogananda is in 5th density. Cayce once said that he 
			would return in 1998 as a ‘liberator.’ Did he mean that he would be 
			born in 1998, or ‘activate’ in 1998?
 A: That is not important.
 
 Q: (L) Now, my memory for dates and times has always been, at best, 
			a little vague. But, lately, it has been really bad. What is the 
			cause of this loss of ability to keep a sequential record of what 
			one does, who one sees, etc? It is really strange.
 A: It is not strange. As one “ages” the illusion of time passage 
			begins to 
			deteriorate because your “higher mind” begins to understand the 
			illusion.
 
 
				Q: (L) I was reading some of the transcripts earlier 
			today. One of the things I read was about the Nephilim and their 
			interactions with human beings and about other planets and 
			molecularization, etc. Then, I was reading about the planet Kantek. 
			Are there any human beings, on Earth, at the present time, who carry 
			in them the Nephilim genes? A: Yes.
 
 Q: (L) MM has a six foot tall daughter. I have a kid who is pretty 
			tall. Could this be a manifestation of Nephilim genes?
 A: Maybe, maybe not.
 
 Q: (L) Is there any way one can tell?
 A: Would you want to?
 
 Q: (L) Yes.
 A: No you wouldn’t!
 
 Q: (L) Would these Nephilim genetics be passed down in the natural 
			way, or would they be the result of genetic manipulation by 
			genetically altering a fetus and then putting it back?
 A: No to latter. One clue: double Y chromosomes.
 
 Q: (W) That’s male...
 A: Nephilim were.
 
 Q: (L) They, were male. Women are a double X, men are XY.
 A: Prisons are filled with double Y’s with monstrous personality 
			disorders, 
			almost always Caucasian and over- sized. Also, “bikers” often carry 
			the gene. 
			We suggest you not share this in a general way on the net!!!
 
				Q: (L) 
			On tv they interviewed a serial killer. He was HUGE! He described 
			killing. The shrink who was analyzing said he did it because he 
			wanted to get caught. I did NOT get that feeling. I think he did it 
			just because it was what he did. Bikers often carry the gene... and 
			this is why they form ‘gangs.’ Nephilim. Bikers. Big. Caucasian. My, 
			my, my. Is there any other clue you can give?
 A: Nephilim are not currently on your world, just trace residuals.
 
 Q: (L) Trace residuals in people. And there are supposed to be 36 
			million of them coming...
 A: With the wave.
 
 Q: (L) That reminds me: is it possible that this comet cluster you 
			have talked about exists in 4th density?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (L) The comet cluster is in 3rd density?
 A: Transcends 3rd and 4th.
 
 Q: (L) Okay, so it is both in 3rd and 4th...
 A: It will be visible to you.
 
 Q: (L) Well, everyone is having fits over Hale Bopp, is it related?
 A: ? Many space objects currently or recently visible are 
			mysterious.
 
 Q: (F) Well, on the news last night they reported that something had 
			been sighted in 1991 and 1992 that had not reappeared... they 
			thought it was a comet, then they said it wasn’t that, and they also 
			said it appeared to be pulsating. Even the astronomers were at a 
			loss about this thing that has disappeared.
 (PZ)
			Is this thing that was seen in 1991 and 1992 going to be part of 
			this wave?
 A: No.
 
 Q: (PZ) I understand that they are building the largest telescope 
			ever on top of a mountain in Peru. Is this telescope going to have 
			the ability to forewarn about the wave?
 A: There is the ability to forewarn of the comet cluster, but not 
			the wave as it 
			is not visible. Question is whether or not warnings will be given 
			due to clandestine and political factors.
 
 Q: (W) Well, they already have the technology and are searching the 
			skies with the SETI telescope in Puerto Rico.
 A: SETISchmetti, W! SETI stands for “search for extra terrestrial
			intelligence,” now why don’t you all start a search for a method to 
			invent indoor plumbing?
 
 Q: (W) Well, you know, Carl Sagan...
 (L) Oh, I know. And they are 
			always asking for money. Every time I get their mail-outs I write 
			across the top: “They are already here! When will you guys wake 
			up?!” And I send it back. Does Carl Sagan know that we have already 
			been ‘invaded?’
 A: Close.
 
 Q: (L) So, he is just lying?
 A: Open.
 
 Q: (L) Is there anything we ought to cover that we haven’t asked at 
			this point?
 (MM) Yes. Was it Yogananda?
 A: Learning is fun. Otherwise, you would still be riding your 
			bicycles, 
			complete with training wheels, and on that note, Good Night.
 
 Q: Good Night. Thank You.
 
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