November 24, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Greetings.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
A: Peehmi.

Q: (L) Have you ever lived on earth?
A: No. There is little need to ask question each time as this is now grooved channel.

Q: (L) Does that mean that the vibrations have been adjusted for you specifically and that others cannot utilize it?
A: Cannot unless you request.

Q: (L) Are you aware of the letter I got today from Karla Turner?
A: We are Cassiopaean.

Q: (L) Does that mean that you are aware?
A: We are aware of your entire life aura.

Q: (L) What caused her to react to the channeled information the way she did. Obviously something upset her, what was it?
A: Miffed by personal references; suspicious of motives send her this session verbatim.

Q: (L) Well, okay, what would you say to her... obviously she thinks you, as a source, were caught in a lie and that put her off, what can you say in response to that accusation, I guess you would call it?
A: There are no lies.

Q: (L) Well, obviously that is something that can be said, but she thinks that since you did not come right out and describe everything in precise detail about those two little boys in South Carolina, that what little you did say, she interpreted as a lie. What else is going on here that...
A: There are no lies only interpretations.

Q: (L) Is it important for her to receive information from this source?
A: It is important for all on planet to learn at their own pace.

Q: (L) Is Karla’s pace slower?
A: Apples and Oranges.

Q: (L) I would like to address the issue of accuracy. How can we increase or determine or work on accuracy?
A: Accuracy is 3rd level concept.

Q: (L) Well, you do understand that at this level we determine whether information is correct or good by whether it happens or comes true, particularly in terms of prognostications.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And if a source misses on a prognostication, very often people lose faith in that source. Is that an unrealistic expectation?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is that because accuracy is an impossible task because of variability of reality?
A: If it were possible there would be no existence. The universe is nothing more than a learning laboratory.

Q: (L) Okay, well, at this point I am wondering if there is any point in writing to Karla and sharing our information with her at all?
A: Of course. You are all learning. Share information to learn more faster.

Q: (L) Is there anything that can be said to her to help her in a positive way?
A: Have empathy. She was raised to put others before herself.

Q: (L) Well, okay, tell us about this, with the existing probabilities, will T__ and J__ be with us this coming Saturday?
A: Yes. But up to you. Ask and you shall receive. [We did and they were.]

Q: (L) J__ was telling me that his friends S__ and S__ have bought into M__’s thesis that I am the wicked witch of the west, is this true?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why is M__ F__ doing this?
A: Same as all other; this is a self serving, ego dominated world.

Q: (L) Is there any particular viciousness in him toward me, inspired for any particular reason?
A: Some, because of your sex references.

Q: (L) He is mad because I identified his motivations toward S__ as being sexually inspired? Was this true?
A: Yes. But truth hurts.

Q: (L) Can you tell us about this recent volcanic eruption? What was the cause?
A: “Heating up” of earth.

Q: (L) What is causing it to heat up?
A: Vibrational frequency changes.

Q: (L) What is the source of these vibrational frequency changes?
A: Oncoming wave as we have told you before.

Q: (L) This oncoming wave, is this a wave which is so large or so vast that its effects are felt many years in advance of its absolute arrival point?
A: All waves in nature have a “contract” phase.

Q: (L) Does that mean like just before a wave comes up on shore it kind of sucks everything out?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So we are in the sucking back phase [demonstrates with hand motion and sound effects.]
A: Cute analogy.

Q: (L) Back in 1981 and 1982, my daughter A__ frequently saw something outside her window that she described as an alligator, and she would wake up screaming and we would get up and, on one occasion we saw what seemed to be a figure standing in a corner by the closet. The whole series of events ended up with my having a dream in which I confronted a dragon...
A: Lizard.

Q: (L) What were they doing at that time?
A: Scoping.

Q: (L) What did they discover from their scoping?
A: Potential abductees.

Q: (L) And did they abduct anyone at that time?
A: No.

Q: (L) Why didn’t they?
A: You stopped it.

Q: (L) How did I stop it?
A: Knowledge is rooted in awareness.

Q: (L) So, my awareness is what stopped it?
A: Close.

Q: (L) When I had the dream about doing battle with the dragon, was that just a dream, an astral event, or an actual interaction with the Lizzies?
A: All three.

Q: (L) And what was their reaction to encountering my resistance to them?
A: Disappointment.

Q: (L) Have they tried to harass us since then?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Have they succeeded on any of those occasions subsequent to that?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) In what way?
A: A__.

Q: (L) Through my mother?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did they abduct her?
A: Garbled her emotions.

Q: (L) Is that their best shot so far?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Can it get worse?
A: It can always get worse.

Q: (L) So we just have to stay on our toes at all times?
A: Absolutely don’t let others distract you. You have suffered many attempts at distraction away from truth. Now follow some proclamations: Pause. All there is is lessons. This is one infinite school. There is no other reason for anything to exist. Even inanimate matter learns it is all an “Illusion.” Each individual possesses all of creation within their minds. Now, contemplate for a moment. Each soul is all powerful and can create or destroy all existence if know how. You and us and all others are interconnected by our mutual possession of all there is. You may create alternative universes if you wish and dwell within. You are all a duplicate of the universe within which you dwell. Your mind represents all that exists. It is “fun” to see how much you can access.

Q: (L) It’s fun for who to see how much we can access?
A: All. Challenges are fun. Where do you think the limit of your mind is?

Q: (L) Where?
A: We asked you.

Q: (L) Well, I guess there is no limit.
A: If there is no limit, then what is the difference between your own mind and everything else?

Q: (L) Well, I guess there is no difference if all is ultimately one.
A: Right. And when two things each have absolutely no limits, they are precisely the same thing.

Q: (L) Is this all you are going to give for tonight?
A: Open. Can give more another time.

Q: (L) My husband wants to know why his ears have been ringing constantly?
A: Lizard move.

Q: (L) Why is this Lizard move causing his ears to ring?
A: They concentrate on those who are not protected or less protected by knowledge.

Q: (L) What can he do to stop this?
A: Open mind then learn.

Q: (L) And if he doesn’t, what would be the result?
A: Further attack.

Q: (L) The other night when T__ and J__ were here and we were getting ready to sit down at the board, I had a sudden sharp pain in my left ear unlike anything I have ever had. It was three sharp jabs. What was that?
A: Electrical nerve surge.

Q: (L) What caused that?
A: DNA changing.

Q: (L) Well, A__ now has the ubiquitous pain in the shoulder. Is this because her DNA is changing?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) You said that each soul is all powerful and could create or destroy all existence... does this mean that an individual could create or destroy all of existence for all others?
A: Yes. But more complex than that will explain further another session.

Q: (L) If we were to ask specific questions, technically speaking, would you be able to tell us how to build a time machine or transdimensional transporter of some sort?
A: Yes. But where are you going to get all the hardware?

Q: (L) Well, I didn’t say I was going to do it, I just wanted to know if you could tell us how.

Q: (L) Is there anything in a few words that you want to tell us before we end tonight?
A: Network but be careful with whom.

Q: (L) Is anyone going to drop into our lives imminently who is going to help us with this?
A: Wait and see. Just beginning.

Q: (L) We thank you for all your help tonight. Are we going to receive spontaneous information regularly like we did tonight?
A: Occasionally when vibrations are right. Vibrations suggest invite R___s. Energy is better with them.

Q: (L) When V__ is with us, would it be helpful for her to stand behind us and give Reiki while we work the board?
A: If you wish.

Q: (L) I get the feeling that means it doesn’t really matter.
A: Open. Goodnight.

End of Session

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November 26, 1994

Freddie and Laura, Terry and Jan

Q: Hello.
A: Thank you for altering the board. [We had installed more punctuation marks] We worked on your psyches to get you to do that.

Q: (L) Well, you didn’t have to work on our psyches to get us to do it. It makes things faster for us too. We wanted to do it.
A: Everything is interactive when it comes to the “collective mind.”

Q: (T) “Endword” is for the end of every word not for the end of the sentence, so we can break the words up without having to do it...

(J) I don’t need it...
A: You will know the words as they come out.

Q: (L) Now for the questions...
A: Who am I Laura? You are slipping

Q: (L) Well, you told me last time that I didn’t have to ask every time. Okay, who do we have with us tonight?
A: Fun.

Q: (L) Your name is fun?
A: Silly.

Q: (T) We’re being silly or we’re just going to have a fun silly evening?
A: Laura needs to lighten up a bit.

Q: (L) Okay, can we have your name, please?
A: Murean.

Q: (L) [Attempt to pronounce] Glad to have you with us Murean.
A: Accent on 2nd syllable.

Q: (T) Well, tonight we have Laura, Fred and Terry on the board and Jan transcribing, is this okay?
A: Of course, Terry.

Q: (T) Thank you.
A: You are welcome.

Q: (T) Something I noticed from last Saturday night: what you need is the energy from us in order to make the board work. Its not necessary that one or...
A: You add energy.

Q: (T) I personally add energy?
A: And Jan.

Q: (L) Just by being here?

(T) Well, I don’t want to feel that I am usurping V__’s position....
A: V__ is at earlier stage in learning process, so less energy.

Q: (L) Well, V__ is part of the group and is learning along with the rest of us, and we are all at different stages in one way or another. She has a great gift of healing which is definitely needed in the group.
(T) And L__ is a fisherman.
A: V__ is more emotional like a “Gemini” lover. She gives better Reiki because she has this emotional power.

Q: (T) Well, I just don’t want her to have hurt feelings or think that she is being replaced if I sit in.
A: Lighten up Terry.

Q: (J) I had a dream where I had vines growing out of my hair. I walked past a mirror and saw this and said “I’m going to have to get rid of this stuff!” Is there some significance to this dream?
A: None.

Q: (J) What causes my sinus problems?
A: Emotional repression.

Q: (J) Of what?
A: Feelings. Taught to be nondemonstrative in childhood.

Q: (J) There was a lot of repression of thought processes and creativity in my house as I was growing up. So what can I do to help my sinuses?
A: Go out and smash a few flower pots. [Much laughter.] Seriously. Harmless to
others.

Q: (T) Well there is a whole bunch of them out there.
(J) Should I identify the things I am angry at and name the flower pots as I smash them?
A: If she wants to. We suggested flower pots because you have a surplus.
(Laughter)

Q: (T) We do, big time! [ Someone suggests shooting them.]
A: Guns can cause harm unless extremely careful.

Q: (J) Why was Terry’s mom so afraid of her cataract operation recently and why has she not yet healed and what can she do?
(T) Too many questions. My mother just had a cataract operation and several other people in the family all had the same operation and all of them healed correctly and quickly. She is not healing correctly and she’s scared to death that she is going to lose the sight in that eye. She was scared to death of this operation and she has had other operations which did not scare her.
A: Too many thought patterns.

Q: Why was she scared of this operation?
A: Her nature to be scared.

Q: (J) She claims that she has never been frightened of any other operation.
A: Incorrect.

Q: Is the eye going to heal?
A: If she changes her thoughts.

Q: (L) Have you given her Reiki in her eye?
(J) No.
(T) Well, go over there and do it this week some time.
A: Not recommended. She will resist strongly.

Q: (L) Is there anything Terry or Jan can do...
(J) or what can she do...
A: Her lesson, not yours. Please limit inquiries of a personal nature.

Q: (T) It’s a free will universe and they can’t tell us. See, I read the book!
A: Good job, Terry. [Laughter]

Q: (T) I’m slow learning, but I do get the lessons eventually.
A: Not so slow.

Q: (L) Can we at least ask what kind of spirit animals Jan and Terry would have?
A: Jan, mouse. Terry, snake. [Laughter]

Q: (T) Does my snake totem refer to something about Lizards or dragons?
A: No. You have been told that.

Q: (T) Well, I like dragons because I am into fantasy books. I’m not really crazy about lizards.
A: Dungeons and...

Q: (T) Dungeons and dragons, one of my favorite games. Since I like Dungeons and Dragons, and kind of have this thing for that sort of thing...
A: We know.

Q: (T) We all have our hobbies. Why do I feel that there is a connection in my life to bladed weapons. What is the root of my liking for the medieval games and so forth?
A: Swords. Was killed by pirate in 1713.

Q: (T) Why was I killed by a pirate in 1713?
(L) Because you were there.
(T) Wrong place at the wrong time!
A: Close enough.

Q: (L) What was his name in that lifetime?
A: George Caldwell. Lived in Plymouth, England. Occupation: Navy.

Q: (L) Who were the group of pirates that he encountered that took his life?
A: British cutthroats.

Q: (T) What was my rank?
A: Leftenant.

Q: (T) What was the name of the ship?
A: HMS Siderail.

Q: (T) What type of a ship was that?
A: Schooner.

Q: (T) So, it was not a military ship, then?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Well, it was not a fighting ship.

(L) They never used schooners for fighting ships.
A: Yes. Commandeered, L__. [Laughter]

Q: (T) The British Navy commandeered this schooner?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is this listed in British Admiralty records anywhere? Is any of this recorded?
A: No. Covered up.

Q: (T) Are there still records about the navy personnel?
A: Yes. Go to London. Contact New Scotland Yard for access.

Q: (T) Who captained the schooner?
A: Ian Miller of Plymouth.

Q: (L) Was Terry married?
A: No.

Q: (T) How old was I when I died?
A: 23.

Q: (T) Did I have fun up to that point?
A: Open.

Q: (J) Can you tell me about a specific game I played when I was in junior high school with other girls, specifically M__ S__?
A: M__’s basement appears very dark. Candles or pinpoints of light. Words spoken in “ritual” fashion.

Q: (F) What did you do?

(J) Yes.

(L) You’re kidding?

(J) No.

(F) What did you do?

(J) [Laughs]
A: We are seeing scene you speak of in present “time”. It is difficult to interpret as there seems to be an effort to “cloak” activities from others in a somewhat “sneaky’ fashion. But, it appears to be an effort to influence events or cast “spells”.

Q: (L) Were you?
(J) Um hmm.
(L) Did it work?
A: Open.

Q: (J) You cannot get any specifics on this regarding words?
A: We can’t decipher.

Q: (J) If I concentrated on it more?
A: Maybe.

Q: (T) Do you have something you want to share with us without us asking questions?
A: Clear vibrations. There is much interference at this time.

Q: (T) What is the source of that interference?
A: Many and varied.

Q: (L) Is it our tenseness or expectation about getting those words that created static?
A: Partly. But remember, the primary point of this communication is to bring information to all that is of universal importance as opposed to personal exercises and data. We want to clarify and expand upon previous statement. It is alright if you would prefer to use this forum for personal data and gain, because that is of free will. However, if you would like this connection to retain its strength and, in fact, increase, then it would be wise to limit personal inquiries because that is of the service to self realm and that realm is limiting and will eventually lead to contamination by forces that are oriented toward service to self, unlike this one.

Q: (L) I’m tired. Do you guys really need me here?
A: “The more the merrier.”

Q: (L) Can I ask my question now?
A: Okay, Laura. Go for it.

Q: (L) The other night we were talking about the “Mark of Cain” and I lost part of the tape. I would like to go back over that a little bit more at this time. What was the true event behind the story of the “Mark of Cain?”
A: Advent of jealousy.

Q: (L) What occurred to allow jealousy to enter into human interaction?
A: Lizard takeover.

Q: (L) Wasn’t the Lizard takeover an event that occurred at the time of the fall of Eden?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this story of Cain and Abel part of that takeover?
A: Symbolism of story.

Q: (L) This was symbolic of the Lizzie takeover, the advent of jealousy, and the attitude of brother against brother, is that correct?
A: Partly. The mark of Cain means the “jealousy factor” of change facilitated by Lizard takeover of earth’s vibrational frequency. Knot on spine is physical residue of DNA restriction deliberately added by Lizards. See?

Q: (L) Okay, Jan is going to move her hand up my back and you tell her when to stop at the “knot”.
A: Okay.

Q: (L) You mean the occipital ridge?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the configuration of the spine and skull prior to this addition?
A: Spine had no ridge there. Jealousy emanates from there, you can even feel it.

Q: (L) Do any of these emotions that we have talked about that were generated by DNA breakdown, were any of these related to what Carl Sagan discusses when he talks about the “Reptilian Brain”?
A: In a roundabout way.

Q: (L) Okay, at the time this “Mark of Cain” came about, were there other humans on the planet that did not have this configuration?
A: It was added to all simultaneously.

Q: (L) How did they physically go about performing this act? What was the mechanism of this event, the nuts and bolts of it?
A: Are you ready? DNA core is as yet undiscovered enzyme relating to carbon. Light waves were used to cancel the first ten factors of DNA by burning them off. At that point, a number of physical changes took place including knot at top of spine. Each of these is equally reflected in the ethereal.

Q: (L) Is that all?
A: No. But, do you need more?

Q: (L) Well, the question I do have is, how many people were there on the planet and did they have to take each one and do this individually?
A: Whoa.

Q: (L) How many people?
A: 6 billion.

Q: (T) That’s 500 million more than there are now.
A: No, 200 million.

Q: (L) Okay, there were this many people on the planet, how did they effect this change on all of them?
A: Light wave alteration.

Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) What was the origin of the light waves?
A: Our center.

Q: (L) What is your center?
A: Our realm. STO.

Q: (L) So, how did the Lizzies use the light from the Service to Others realm...
A: They used sophisticated technology to interrupt light frequency waves.

Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of this that you are saying from what you are not saying is that it was almost like,... well, was there a battle and you guys lost?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this the same battle that the Pleiadeans talk about?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Not to go off on a tangent, but I have only come into this recently, you are the Cassiopaeans?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are you also the Pleiadeans?
A: No.

Q: (T) Are you connected to the Pleiadeans?
A: Yes and so are others.

Q: (T) You are all the family of light?
A: Yes. Exactly. You have been “doing your homework”.

Q: (T) I’m trying to. Now, another force in what we term as the past, defeated you and used the power of the light in order to alter us in different ways, is this correct?
A: Yes. Now understand this: It is all part of natural grand cycle.

Q: (L) If this is all a part of a natural grand cycle, and correct me if I am wrong here, it almost seems as if you guys, the “good guys”, and the other “bad” guys, that you just really kind of go at it just for fun, is that true?
A: No.

Q: (L) But you say it is a natural thing or part of a natural grand cycle. Is this natural grand cycle just part of the interaction between light and darkness which just simply must be?
A: Yes. We are at “front line” of universe’s natural system of balance. That is where one rises to before reaching total union of “The One”. 6th level.

Q: (L) Do you like being at 6th level?
A: Do you like being at 3rd level?

Q: (L) Frankly no, I don’t.

(T) If you answer the question by asking the question, and we know that we are striving to reach higher, does this mean there are more levels above 6th level?
A: Yes. One.

Q: (L) Is that union with the one?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Now, the battle you had with the other side...
A: Are having.

Q: (T) This battle goes on... do you have the light power back?
A: Never lost it, you did.

Q: (T) Okay, I guess that for us the Lizzies are the main force even though they have others on their side...
A: Yes.

Q: (T) They took our light, not yours?
A: Not against you. Currently in union with you.

Q: (T) So we are but one battle in the universe in an overall, ongoing struggle?
A: Yes. Balance is natural. Remember, it’s all just lessons in the grand cycle.

Q: (L) I am really curious... when you guys and the Lizzies “go to it”, what do you do? I mean, you obviously don’t shoot guns at each other and you don’t have tanks...
A: Too complicated for you to possibly understand because you are not at 4th level yet.

Q: (J) When you are fighting, is it any way at all possible for us to detect the battle?
A: First: We don’t “fight.” Second, yes; it’s nature as in meteorology and earth changes.

Q: (T) Your form of confrontation takes the form of physical changes in the atmosphere and environment of the planet?
A: And in space.

Q: (T) But that is how we detect it? The more activity, the more conflict is going on?
A: Remember, we are the light. They are the dark. We are both high level thought forms reflected at all levels of reality.

Q: (T) So, what we perceive, then, is what comes through to third density which is not what we would perceive if we were looking at it from 4th or 5th or 6th.
A: Yes.

Q: (T) We are talking 4th density to 3rd density. Is this what Hoagland is referring to when he talks about the tetrahedral form he has detected from the Martian structures he has been studying that he postulated...
A: Yes. This is a bridge to 4th density.

Q: (L) Isn’t it a little unfair for you guys, at 6th level, to take on the Lizzies at only 4th level?
A: The “Lizzies” are the 4th level representatives of the forces of the darkness not the 6th level, and you are 3rd level representatives.

Q: (L) Is there a 6th level representative of the forces of darkness?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what is this 6th level representative known as, or called, or look like or whatever?
A: Orion in your “neighborhood.”

Q: (L) The Orion’s are 6th level STS beings?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they like you, thought forms?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they ever appear in physical matter?
A: Can.

Q: (L) And they are the driving force that controls the Lizzies?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is there some intermediary between the 6th level Orions and the 4th level Lizzies, such as a 5th level force or being?
A: 5th level is contemplation zone for both “sides”.

Q: (L) Does that mean that at the contemplation level that there is no activity?
(J) Is it like a “time out?”
A: Close. Balancer.

Q: (L) Is there a 3rd level representative of the forces of the light?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who or what are they?
A: Don’t exist on your planet.

Q: (L) Do they have a planet of their own?
A: Have quadrillions of them.

Q: (L) Well, this is beginning to sound like we are in pretty bad shape here. This is like the Siberia of the universe as Gurdjieff said.
A: The Universe is infinitely huge.

Q: (L) If there are planets where there are 3 D beings who are STS oriented, in other words, in a physical body, do they look something like us?
A: You are STS oriented. Did you really mean to say STO?

Q: (T) Is there a 3D race in this universe that is STO?
A: Yes. Already stated thus.

Q: (L) If there are planets with STO beings...
A: Some look like you.

Q: (L) What is life like on that sort of place?
(T) They are not going to tell us that. That is something that we are going to have to develop to find out.
A: Exactly.

Q: (J) Is part of being STS being so appearance oriented as we are?
A: Not physical issue at 3rd level.

Q: (T) Who talks to me when I am having conversations with myself in my head?
A: You.

Q: Am I talking to other beings?
A: Have.

Q: Do we all do this?
A: No.

Q: (T) Does Laura communicate like this.
A: Has.

Q: (T) Does Freddie?
A: Ditto.

Q: (T) Should I continue communicating with whoever it is?
A: Up to you.

Q: (T) Are they connected to you?
A: No.

Q: (T) Do you know who I am talking about?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Can you tell me who they are?
A: Lizards.

Q: (T) Why are they talking to me?
A: Trying to convert you. Remember, Terry, your chronic depression represents a “battle” zone.

Q: (T) I no longer am depressed and they are talking to me more.
(J) They are trying to get you back into it.
(T) but they are not doing anything to convince me to be depressed.
A: Watch out!

Q: (T) Can I turn them off?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Who is “Sing.”
A: Leader of forces assigned to influence you.

Q: (T) Forces, as in many are assigned to me personally?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) How many are in this force?
A: Seven.

Q: (T) Do they do this because of the implants that are in me?
A: All part of process.

Q: (T) Do I have implants?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) These implants are what they use to control my emotions and amplify them so that they can feed off of them?
A: Not control, influence.

Q: (T) No, not to control; influence. But when, say, I get angry, then I’m angry for a short time but then I’m angry for a long time because they have used this technology to amplify and extend this; is this what they do?
A: Yes. Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers.

Q: (T) Can I feed back through their equipment what I choose?
A: Not necessary.

Q: (T) In other words, if I get angry and realize that I am being more angry than I should be, and I change that to something positive, and feed that back to them while they have their amplifiers wide open, will that affect them? Sour their milk, so to speak?
A: Now you are “fighting fire with fire.”

Q: (T) Well, is that something that we are supposed to be doing?
A: Open. But what does phrase imply?

Q: (L) If you feed it back at them, in other words, what they are saying is, I think, when you feel yourself getting angry, the only way to stop the whole thing is to stop being angry and be happy or at peace. When you are happy and at peace there is not in you the desire to send anything back.
A: Bingo.

Q: (J) Redirect the energy into something positive.

(F) You can’t fight fire with fire.

(LM) Well, actually you can in reality.

(T) What I am getting at is, is it possible to do that, to change the emotional state to something more positive than what they are expecting and feed that back to them. Is that a possibility?
A: Why.

Q: (T) Just to give them a taste of their own for a change.
(J) Do you want to antagonize them? You are still feeding them your energy. (L) The only change you could really have would be the opposite emotion which would be peace and if you are truly feeling peace...
A: 4th density STSers feed off negative energy.

Q: (J) So, give them nothing.

(T) But what I am thinking about is the energy... I have a natural... They are feeding off negative energy. They put something in me, some technological thing, because they come into 3rd density to mess with us...
A: Yes.

Q: (T) ...that will amplify this for them. Make it even stronger.
A: Analogy follows: How effective is a light socket without a plug in it?

Q: (T) Well, how effective is a light socket without a socket in it... I’m trying to learn here so you guys give me some lattitude.
A: What?

Q: (T) If you take a light socket and pull the socket... pull the plug on the light socket you no longer have light.

(L) Well, the Lizzies are the light bulb and you are the power source so you just pull out their plug.

(J) Unplug yourself.

(T) Am I the socket?
A: How effective is a motor that is never turned on?

Q: (J) Do not be their source. If they feed off negative energy, starve them.
A: Implants are ineffective if not used.

Q: (J) The power source has to be on for the implant to work for them to get the juice and the power is negative thoughts and emotions.

(T) But I am still a 3rd density being. I have all the emotions of a 3rd density being, the whole gamut, and that is part of what makes me a 3rd density being. Therefore I can’t turn one emotion off without upsetting the balance of the other emotions, emotions are almost an analogy to the light and the dark.
A: No.

Q: (T) I have positive emotions and I have negative emotions; they both make up who I am.
A: If you choose, you may have only positive emotions.

Q: (T) Now, if I have only positive emotions, which is a nice thing to have and I’d like to have that, what does that do to the sensor equipment of the Lizzies?
A: Cancels them.

Q: (T) So they are tuned to negative frequencies?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Having positive feelings cuts off the implants. If I cut off the sensors by having positive feelings, what will the Lizards do?
A: Go elsewhere.

Q: (L) Am I correct in my thought that when you first start turning this off that they may increase their efforts for a period and then finally they realize that you are really in charge here and then they go away?
A: Exactly.

Q: (L) So, when you first get a clue and you start getting a grip on your emotions and dealing with everything that happens to you with acceptance and knowledge that all is a manifestation of your own creation and for your ultimate good, for a period of time they may try ten times harder to get you back as a food source, but then once they realize they can’t, then they do finally let loose?
A: You and Freddie are experiencing this right now.

Q: (L) This is true.

(F) We have both been under massive attack. Just doing this work has been a struggle to keep at it with everything coming from every direction.

(L) The hardest has been to stay in a frame of mind to do it.

(J) Am I under attack?
A: Not yet.

Q: (T) Is what I have been under the past few months the first assault?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Now they are trying to sweet talk me?
A: Only first assault.

Q: (T) So, the more positive I become, the more they are going to continue trying, and I am assuming that because you said I have seven beings of some kind assigned to me, that they find something interesting in me that they want to keep?
A: Close.

Q: (T) Should it make me happy that they think I am important enough to have seven beings assigned to me personally? Should I take that as a complement?
A: No.

Q: (J) Is Terry’s level of negativity what makes him attractive to them? His capability for strong negativity?
A: Vice versa.

Q: (J) Please explain.

(L) Well, what did they say, is his negativity what makes him attractive, No. He has attracted them and that is what makes him negative? So what makes him attractive to them?
A: Not attractive, a threat.

Q: (L) Now, that is a point. I think there are a lot of people they start working on very early in life because they do like an aura reading or aura scan and determine, and know that a person has potential for great light so they start working on them when they are young and defenseless to try and take them out of the game, so to speak.

(F) Not only great good, but also potential for knowledge.

(L) Is this the case here?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) There you go. It isn’t your potential for negativity, it is your potential for good.

(F) Right. If you look around you you will see the mainstream of society, and they just seem to move through life and enjoy wallowing in materiality, these people don’t seem to suffer as much.

(L) There seems to be two classes of people the Lizzies like to go after, extremely weak ones and those they haul off and eat or experiment on; and those who have potential strength and positivity.
(F) To give you an example is, the people they don’t attack are those who they already have and they don’t have to work on them. If you have the potential to rise above the service to self orientation, then you are a threat. And, if you look around at most of the people who are “making it” in this world, those are the ones that are usually the most viciously service to self.

(T) Very true.
(J) That’s the way it is.
(L) And how many times have you heard these “New Age” teachers talk about “well, if your impression of people who have material possessions is that they are negative, then you are bringing this on yourself and you will just have to concentrate on prosperity more,” that is, in a roundabout way promoting a very service to self philosophy. It’s not that having things is bad, it’s not that money is evil, it’s the focus on it over and above helping others.

(T) I want to tell a little story. A guy I work for is a “Born again Christian.” Only a year and a half born again. He’s hobbying at it. He’s looking for a lifestyle. He was pooh-poohing metaphysics and New Age philosophies in general saying: “New Age! That’s the devil’s work!” He has no idea what it is, but he is shutting it down because someone told him to shut it down and he is doing it to be part of the Lifestyle.

I said: “Where do you get this stuff?” He said: “It’s in the Bible.” I said: “What do you mean it’s in the Bible?” He said: “Well, it’s in the books.” So, I asked: “Well, where did the books come from? Some of them were written many hundreds of years ago and the New Testament books were written hundreds of years after Christ lived, that is, after the fact.” So, he said: “See, those who wrote the Bible didn’t really write it, they got it from the Holy Spirit.” So, I say, okay, I can buy that. The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible. I can follow this. Fine.

 

I ask him: “How do they know this was the Holy Spirit?” And I’m only bringing up a question, I am not putting him down. So, he comes back and says: “Well, the books say the Holy Spirit came down and did this, and since it is in the book, it must be true.” I said: “Wait a minute. The Holy Spirit came down and wrote these books through these people, gave them this information and helped them do this, and wrote in the book that it was the Holy Spirit that did this, therefore it makes it true because whoever brought this information said they brought this information. But, on a whole different level, the Holy Spirit brought this information to these people, and they didn’t write the books, did they not “channel” these books?”

And he stopped there and it was like:

“Well, I never thought of it that way.” And I said: “Well, you just said that all of this was of the Devil, New Age, paranormal events, UFOs, the Rolling Stones...” So, he thought about it for a minute and then he said: “But it’s okay. It was the “right” channel!” And I say:

 

“Wait a minute! Slow down here! Take this home and think about it for a few days. These books that you are putting your faith in, that you don’t know where they came from, were channelled to people by means that you say are the devil’s work if anybody else does it. And, the only reason you are accepting these works is because, IN these works it says that it was the Holy Spirit that did it, but it was the Holy Spirit that told them to do this.”

(F) And it was the Holy Spirit that told them that it was the Holy Spirit.

(T) Yeah, right! I told him: “Think about it. Just THINK about what you are saying.” But he is just not seeing it.

(L) It’s hypnosis.

(T) And, he’s looking for a lifestyle. He talks about: “I heard this great group the other day, they’re a Christian band. And a couple days later: “Hey, did you hear such and such, they’re a “Christian Band.” I said: “Gee, James, know any good Moslem bands?” I told him I liked Garrison Keilor and he said: “That’s a Christian show.” I said: “Where did you get that?” He said: “Well, my pastor said he was because he’s from Minnesota!”

(F) Well, there are two points that this brings up. The first is that circular thinking and this whole idea is following what others tell you or what has been written without questioning it. You are not supposed to think. And then, the second thing, this source said once way back: “Don’t take anything at face value, including this.” Part of the light of knowledge is that you would always be open to new information.

(L) Well, that is the parable of the talents. I keep hammering on that one and one of these days I am going to write a little monograph on the parables of Jesus. The parable of the talents is prefaced by the phrase: “Now, knowledge of the kingdom is like unto a certain man who went on a journey...” and he called his three servants together and gave them each a certain number of talents. The talents represent knowledge. Two of the servants invested their talents. They were willing to take risks and give up what they had to get more.

 

The third was afraid of losing the little he had and he buried his talent. So, the two increased their knowledge by repeatedly giving up and getting back more. The master came back and the two showed how they had made a killing on the market and the master was pleased. But the servant who had buried his talent said: “Master, I knew you were a hard man and you reaped where you did not sow and I was afraid...” The master cast him into outer darkness. And, remember, remember, remember, we are talking about knowledge. He took his little bit of knowledge and he closed himself off and hung onto that little bit for dear life...

(F) Yet another demonstration of service to self. He buried it so he could have it instead of sharing it. It is continually reflected over and over. Everybody out there has their one little talent and they are all burying it for dear life.

(T) Okay. Where were we. Just by being positive will shut off the Lizzies desire to mess with me?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) That’s all there is to it? But the implants will still be there?
A: So what?

Q: (T) Do the implants do anything besides transmit the frequency?
A: No.

Q: (T) And, as long as I am being negative it is transmitting and they can track me that way?
A: Close.

Q: (T) If I shut them off by being positive, they can’t track me any longer?
A: Can track but not influence.

Q: (T) Why did they tell me that I gave them permission to do it when they abduct me?
A: “Bullshit!”

Q: (T) If I tell them it’s bull will they leave me alone?
A: No.

Q: (T) If I shut them off will they continue to abduct me?
A: No.

Q: (T) I am not buying into the victim line.
(L) There is another aspect here. Knowledge breeds awareness which gives you the ability to detect it when they try to influence you in very subtle ways so that you can begin to control your mind and resist early on and that is the key.
A: Close enough.

Q: (L) And you have to persist with positive thoughts and feelings sometimes in the face of incredible adversity. No one said it was going to be easy, but it is worth it.

(T) Are my Tarot cards telling me the truth?
A: Maybe. Enough on this subject, please.

Q: (T) One last question. How do I know you are telling me the truth?
A: Open. For you to decide. Listen: Revelations follow. Now would be a good “time” for you folks to begin to reexamine some of the extremely popular “Earth Changes” prophecies. Why, you ask. Because, remember, you are third density beings, so real prophecies are being presented to you in terms you will understand, I.E. physical realm, I.E. Earth changes. This “may” be symbolism. Would most students of the subject understand if prophecies were told directly in fourth density terms?

Q: (L) Is this comparable to my idea about dream symbolism. For example, the dream I had about the curling cloud which I saw in a distance and knew it was death dealing and I interpreted it to be a tornado, but it was, in fact, a dream of the Challenger disaster. I understood it to be a tornado, but in fact, what I saw was what I got, a death dealing force in the sky, a vortex, in the distance. I guess my dream was a fourth density representation but I tried to interpret it in terms I was familiar with. Is this what you mean?
A: Close. But it is easy for most to get bogged down by interpreting prophecies in literal terms.

Q: (L) Is there more information you plan to deliver on this subject?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Let me ask a quick one. Did the Gulf Breeze Six, as they are called, who were supposedly receiving information via the Ouija board, did they receive prophetic information of some sort?
A: Yes.

Q: And, from what source did they receive this information?
A: Mixed.

Q: (L) Was their information accurate?
A: Mixed.

Q: (L) Why were they, their board, their transcripts and so forth confiscated?
A: Paranoia.

Q: (L) In terms of these Earth Changes, Edgar Cayce is one of the most famous prognosticators of recent note, a large number of the prophecies he made seemingly were erroneous in terms of their fulfillment. For example, he prophesied that Atlantis would rise in 1969, but it did not though certain structures were discovered off the coast of Bimini which are thought by many to be remnants of Atlantis. These did, apparently, emerge from the sand at that time.
A: Example of one form of symbolism.

Q: (L) Well, in terms of this symbolism, could this be applied to the remarks you made about the two little boys who were missing in South Carolina.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And the symbolism was that you were reading the event from 3rd density into sixth density terms and then transmitting it back into 3rd, and while the ideation was correct, the exact specifics, in 3rd density terms, were slightly askew. Is that what we are dealing with here?
A: 99.9 per cent would not understand that concept. Most are always looking for literal translations of data. Analogy is novice who attends art gallery, looks at abstract painting and says “I don’t get it.”

Q: (L) Well, let’s not denigrate literal translations or at least attempts to get things into literal terms. I like realistic art work. I am a realist in my art preferences. I want trees to look like trees and people to have only two arms and legs. Therefore, I also like some literalness in my prognostications.
A: Some is okay, but, beware or else “California falls into the ocean” will always be interpreted as California falling into the ocean.

Q: [General uproar]

(F) Wait a minute, what was the question?

(L) I just said I liked literalness in my prophecies.

(F) Oh, I know what they are saying. People believe that California is just going to go splat and that Phoenix is going to be on the seacoast, never mind that it’s at 1800 feet elevation, it’s just going to drop down to sea level, or the sea level is going to rise, but it’s not going to affect Virginia Beach even though that’s at sea level. I mean... somehow Phoenix is just going to drop down and none of the buildings are going to be damaged, even though its going to fall 1800 feet...

(T) Slowly. It’s going to settle.

(F) Slowly? It would have to be so slowly it’s unbelievable how slowly it would have to be.

(T) It’s been settling for the last five million years, we’ve got a ways to go in the next year and a half!

(F) Right! That’s my point.

(T) In other words, when people like Scallion and Sun Bear and others say California is going to fall into the ocean, they are not saying that the whole state, right along the border is going to fall into the ocean, they are using the term California to indicate that the ocean ledge along the fault line has a probability of breaking off and sinking on the water side, because it is a major fracture. We understand that that is not literal. Are you telling us that there is more involved here as far as the way we are hearing what these predictions say?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are we understanding what you are saying?
A: Some.

Q: (T) So, when we talk about California falling into the ocean, we are not talking about the whole state literally falling into the ocean?
A: In any case, even if it does, how long will it take to do this?

Q: (LM) It could take three minutes or three hundred years.

(T) Yes. That is “open” as you would say.
A: Yes. But most of your prophets think it is not open.

Q: (J) Yeah, because they think they have the only line on it.

(T) Okay. So they are thinking in the terms that one minute California will be there and a minute and a half later it will be all gone. Is this what you are saying?
A: Or similar.

Q: (T) So, when we are talking: “California will fall into the ocean, which is just the analogy we are using, we are talking about, as far as earth changes, is the possibility that several seismic events along the fault line, which no one really knows the extent of...
A: Or it all may be symbolic of something else.

Q: (L) Such as?

(J) All the fruitcakes in California are all going to go off the deep end together.

(L) Symbolic of what?
A: Up to you to examine and learn.

Q: (L) Now, wait a minute here! That’s like sending us out to translate a book in Latin without even giving us a Latin dictionary.
A: No it is not. We asked you to consider a reexamination.

Q: (L) You have told us through this source, that there is a cluster of comets connected in some interactive way with our solar system, and that this cluster of comets comes into the plane of the ecliptic every 3600 years. Is this correct?
A: Yes. But, this time it is riding realm border wave to 4th level, where all realities are different.

Q: (L) Okay, so the cluster of comets is riding the realm border wave. Does this mean that when it comes into the solar system, that its effect on the solar system, or the planets within the solar system, (Jan or us), may or may not be mitigated by the fact of this transition? Is this a mitigating factor?
A: Will be mitigated.

Q: (T) Is this what the Star Trek movie, “Generations” is telling us?
A: Possible.

Q: (T) Are you or someone in the Federation influencing the writers of that program?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Does any of this mean that the earth changes that have been predicted, may not, in fact, occur in physical reality as we understand it?
A: You bet.

Q: (L) Does this mean that all of this running around and hopping and jumping to go here and go there and do this and do that is...
A: That is strictly 3rd level thinking.

Q: (L) Now, if that is 3rd level thinking, and if a lot of these things are symbolic, I am assuming they are symbolic of movement or changes in energy.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, if these changes in energy occur does this mean that the population of the planet are, perhaps, in groups or special masses of groups, are they defined as the energies that are changing in these descriptions of events and happenings of great cataclysm. Is it like a cataclysm of the soul on an individual and or collective basis?
A: Close.

Q: (L) When the energy changes to 4th density, and you have already told us that people who are moving to 4th density when the transition occurs, that they will move into 4th density, go through some kind of rejuvenation process, grow new teeth, or whatever, what happens to those people who are not moving to 4th density, and who are totally unaware of it? Are they taken along on the wave by, in other words, piggy-backed by the ones who are aware and already changing in frequency, or are they going to be somewhere else doing something else?
A: Step by step.

Q: (T) In other words, we are looking at the fact that what’s coming this time is a wave that’s going to allow the human race to move to 4th density?
A: And the planet and your entire sector of space/time.

Q: (T) Is that what this whole plan is about, then, if I may be so bold as to include all of us here in this. We, of the beings of light who have come here into human form, to anchor the frequency, is this what we are anchoring it for, for this wave, so that when it comes enough of us will be ready, the frequency will be set, so that the change in the planet can take place as it has been planned?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) When this happens, will we piggy-back all those who are still unaware?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Okay, when the people are talking about the earth changes, when they talk in literal terms about the survivors, and those who are not going to survive, and the destruction and so forth and so on, in 3rd, 4th, 5th level reality we are not talking about the destruction of the planet on 3rd level physical terms, or the loss of 90 per cent of the population on the 3rd level because they died, but because they are going to move to 4th level?
A: Whoa! You are getting “warm.”

Q: (T) Okay. So, we are anchoring this. So, when they talk about 90 per cent of the population not surviving, it is not that they are going to die, but that they are going to transform. We are going to go up a level. This is what the whole light thing is all about?
A: Or another possibility is that the physical cataclysms will occur only for those “left behind” on the remaining 3rd level density earth.

Q: (T) Okay, what you are saying, then, is that we are anchoring the frequency, so that when the wave comes, we move to 4th level density as many people as possible, in order to break the hold the “Dark T-shirts” have got on this planet, those who remain behind will not have enough energy left for the “Dark T-shirts” to bother with the planet any longer. There will be less of them so the planet will be able to refresh and they will be able to move on in their lessons without interference?
A: Close.

Q: (L) At this point of dimensional transition, is what we are doing, anchoring a frequency, are we creating a sort of “super string” network that will literally create another earth in 4th density, which will then exist in 4th density, and the old 3rd density earth—almost like the splitting of a one celled organism, only in this splitting one half of it moves into another dimension and is energized and quite literally created by the anchoring frequency, while the old one remains and experiences 3rd density reality?
A: Step by step.

Q: (L) Are we anchoring frequency to create a split?
A: One developing conduit.

Q: (L) We are developing a conduit?
A: Yes. One.

Q: (J) How many conduits do we need?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Is this conduit going to allow those who remain behind to be able to move to 4th density easier when they are ready?
A: No.

Q: (T) What is the conduit for?
A: You and those who will follow you.

Q: (T) Oh, this is for those of us who will move to 4th density. We will move through and they will follow us through the conduit.

(J) Oh, others who are ready?
A: Your group here tonight.

Q: (L) Does this mean we will have followers or just us here now?
A: Open. Up to you.

Q: (L) This conduit. Is this a conduit through which an entire planet will transition?
A: You are one. There are others.

Q: (L) There are other planets...
A: No. Conduit.

Q: We are one conduit and there are conduits...
A: No. Developing at this point.

Q: (J) So, at this point we are developing a conduit?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) There are other groups on this planet developing their own conduits?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) These are conduits for us to move to 4th density in?
A: Knowledge is the key to developing a conduit.

Q: (T) I am working on the assumption that all of us here are part of the family of light, is this true?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) And we have been drawn together in order to develop this conduit from where we are?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are there others in this area?
A: Yes.

Q: (T) Are they supposed to join with us or are they working on their own?
A: Open.

Q: (T) Okay, so it is up in the air as to whether we join with them, they join with us, or we all work independently.
A: It is up to how much publicity you manage to get.

Q: (T) Do we want publicity on this?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Would it help us?
A: Open.

Q: (T) We’re developing a conduit to move us from 3rd density to 4th density. Once we have moved through the conduit does that mean we have completed what we came here to do, and that is anchor the frequency?
A: Partly.

Q: (T) Is the conduit kind of like an escape hatch for us?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Let me get this straight. When we move through this conduit, are the other...
A: You will be on the 4th level earth as opposed to 3rd level earth.

Q: (L) What I am trying to get here, once again, old practical Laura, is trying to get a handle on practical terms here. Does this mean that a 4th density earth and a 3rd density earth will coexist side by side...
A: Not side by side, totally different realms.

Q: (L) Do these realms interpenetrate one another but in different dimensions...
A: Close.

Q: (L) So, in other words, a being from say, 6th density, could look at this planet we call the earth and see it spinning through space and see several dimensions of earth, and yet the point of space/time occupation is the same, in other words, simultaneous.

(J) They can look down but we can’t look up.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, in other words, while all of this cataclysmic activity is happening on the 3rd dimensional earth, we will be just on our 4th dimensional earth and this sort of thing won’t be there, and we won’t see the 3rd dimensional people and they won’t see us because we will be in different densities which are not “en rapport”, so to speak?
A: You understand concept, now you must decide if it is factual.

End of Session

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November 27, 1994

Freddie, Laura and LM

Q: Hello.
A: Hello. Illo.

Q: (L) Your name is Illo? Who are you and where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) I have a few little questions I want to ask, and I know they are personal and I know how you feel about personal questions but there is a reason for the importance of these questions. The first is why is it every time I think about sitting at the board my left ear starts doing strange things?
A: DNA responding.

Q: (LM) Why or how would DNA make your ear hurt?
A: Changes.

Q: (L) How can DNA changing affect an ear or shoulder, for example?
A: Complex; read “Bringers of the Dawn”.

Q: (L) My husband is really concerned about his truck. This may sound like a simple thing, but for us it is because we can’t just go and spend money on fixing it only to find out that is the wrong thing and something else needs fixing. We need to know what is wrong with it so that we can fix it with the least amount of expenditure.
A: Catalytic converter.

Q: (LM) It doesn’t have one.
(L) He doesn’t have one. What is wrong with the truck?
A: Space where converter should be.

Q: (LM) Whoever is telling you this is abysmally mechanically ignorant. No 1978 truck ever had a catalytic converter.
A: Check it. Your assertion. Fuel line clogged at bottom where “cc” should be.

[This proved to be absolutely correct! A rubber cap was missing.]

Q: (L) Is it possible to do hypnotic future progressions that give accurate information in a general sense?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) In the book “Mass Dreams of The Future”, are these statistically analyzed mass dreams in any way accurate?
A: In a sense.

Q: (L) Is it possible, since they showed several different scenarios... why am I feeling so strange at this moment?
A: Anemic/low blood sugar.

Q: (L) So it is not an emotional reaction to my husband’s hostility?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Well, in that sense, I would like to know.
A: Know what?

Q: (L) Are you sure you are a Cassiopaean?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, you don’t seem to be really in tune or accurate about what is going on here tonight.
A: In tune, but your energies are low; it “takes two to tango”.

Q: (L) Now, last night you said you affected our psyches in order to have us make changes on the board. It occurred to me that you might have the ability to change the electromagnetics of the body which would then affect the physical body, is this correct?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) So, could you perform an electromagnetic healing on me, that is, on the etheric or spirit body, which would then manifest in the physical body?
A: Do.

Q: (L) You do? Well, I would like to have more of it, more often. I would like you to speed up the process because I am fairly miserable in the physical sense. Is that possible?
A: Cycle will pass.

Q: (L) Well, I want to know why my arm hurts so bad and why my heart feels like an elephant is sitting on it?
A: Energy low.

Q: (L) Is the answer to that just simply to rest?
A: Yes. Absolutely. Last session was particularly draining. Don’t overdo it, just pace it.

Q: (L) Well, let’s go back to the truck. Do you think you can tap into anybody who is a mechanic and just give us...
A: Truck problem will be resolved by your tomorrow and will be easy to resolve.

Q: (L) I talked to T__ M__ tonight and I wonder if he is going to be willing and able to compensate Freddie for the electric bill?
A: Yes. But explain in detail. And point out his good fortune.

Q: (L) I want a new vehicle. Look into the future for me, please, and tell me which is there for me around the corner, is it a car or a nice, big, van?
A: Either.

Q: (L) Is it very close in the future for me.
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Now, I want to know in terms of this activity, what percentage of our energy is utilized in this channeling process? Is it say, 60% Fred and 40% me or whatever?
A: Varies.

Q: (L) With Jan and Terry here, is that a more energetic session?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does it help to have more people in the room?
A: If they are not hostile.

Q: (L) Does hostility cut back the energy?
A: Immensely and negative moods as well.

Q: (L) Is LM more hostile and negative than he believes he is or than he lets on?
A: Varies.

Q: (L) Are you going to be able to do something to my psyche that is going to make my body start dropping tons of weight with no necessity for me to focus on that issue at all?
A: Not necessary, once project gets going, your energy will greatly increase, thus weight loss follows.

Q: (L) On many occasions I have had dreams about being on a train. What do these dreams mean to me?
A: Not significant.

Q: (L) What about the dreams of putting on make-up?
A: Hiding your self.

Q: (L) What level are the Pleiadians who channel through Barbara Marciniak?
A: 6th density.

Q: (L) Okay, I would like to know where A__ G__ is and what she is doing currently.
A: North Carolina, nursing.

Q: (L) Is she still with Tom?
A: No.

Q: (L) Why?
A: Split.

Q: (L) Where is he?
A: Tarpon Springs.

Q: (L) Why is he there?
A: Engineering.

Q: (L) What about C__ S__?
A: In Atlanta. Artist.

Q: (L) I talked to C__ P__ the other day, she seemed to be hostile. Is this a valid assessment?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Why does she feel this way?
A: Not on same wavelength.

Q: (L) Should I just forget her?
A: Up to you.

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December 1, 1994

Freddie, Laura, J__ and A__ (Two of Laura’s children)

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello. You like puppies.

Q: (L) And who do we have tonight?
A: Romommea.

Q: (L) Who are you and where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Should A__ participate?
A: Should sit quietly; she's at a “sensitive” age.

Q: (L) Does that mean it is better for her to not use the board?
A: Yes. Bad influences are near.

Q: (L) Bad influences are near? And what are these “bad” influences?
A: Discarnate “gargoyles”.

Q: (L) What are they near for?
A: A__ is near the board.

Q: (L) Should she sit in the other chair?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is that better now?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, what would these gargoyles like to do?
A: Overtake communication.

Q: (L) Well, be gone! Did that do it?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, tell them to scram.
A: We are free will, we can advise.

Q: (L) Well, then advise them to leave, please.
A: Open. There is much interference.

Q: (L) What can we do to enhance communication at this end?
A: Communication is best when pure.

Q: (L) What is not pure tonight? Is it my attitude or activities?
A: No.

Q: (L) What is not pure?
A: Interference.

Q: (L) What is causing the interference?
A: We are not certain.

Q: (L) Is there anything we can do... should we have the children leave the room?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) If they leave the room will you be better able to communicate?
A: Thought patterns show static.

Q: (L) My thought patterns show static?
A: Someone’s.

Q: (L) Is it someone in this room?
A: Possibly, but not clear. It’s someone apart from channel.

Q: (L) What are M__ and S__ doing at this moment?
A: Unreadable.

Q: (L) Why is that?
A: Static energy field.

Q: (L) Is that possibly where the static is coming from?
A: Possible.

Q: (L) [J__ leaves and goes to bed] Okay, did that help?
A: Remember, children most vulnerable when attack underway. You are currently under psychic onslaught.

Q: (L) Okay. [A__ leaves and goes to bed] Is that better?
A: Better, but you are definitely being deliberately assaulted by some source right now.

Q: (L) Well, my ears are ringing to beat the band. What is this source?
A: Earth bound.

Q: (L) Is the originator of this negative energy Ms. S__ H__ who claims to have practiced witchcraft in her youth?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Is another of these attackers M__ F—who also claims to have practiced witchcraft in his youth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And is another one Mr. A__ B__ who claims to be Florida’s greatest sorcerer, if not the world’s?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Are they all in cahoots?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Can you give me any definite answers on this situation?
A: Static around all mentioned. Phone opened line of attack one attacker believes he has powers to damage you.

Q: (L) Is that attacker M__?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Okay, the situation is that, from any point of view, M__ and S__ have really treated me badly and I tried to be real low key and understanding and forgiving about the whole thing. However, when I learned that they had stolen from me, I got very upset. So, did I take the right approach in having my attorney send the demand letter to S__?
A: Yet to be seen.

Q: (L) Well, I decided that it was time for the buck to stop. These people have gone around doing what they are doing for as long as I am willing to tolerate not having my side heard. I never believed that people could be so vicious.
A: Will they share your beliefs?

Q: (L) Probably not, but I can only stay buried so long. And, it is definitely rattling some bushes.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) From your position of all-knowingness and all-seeingness, can you give me a little guidance on this?
A: No one is “all-knowing” and seeing.

Q: (L) Okay, you can’t see A__, M__ or S__, is that correct?
A: Static.

Q: (L) What is creating the static around them? Are they performing some Lizzie rituals?
A: Machinery of some kind is being used to create the static.

Q: (L) Are they doing this to protect themselves from some sort of imagined attack from me (because I am sure S__ has convinced them I am an evil witch)?
A: Assault upon Laura directly.

Q: (L) They are using some kind of machinery to attack me directly?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What kind?
A: Lights, bells, smoke, siren, oscillator, EM waves.

Q: (L) Are they going to try to burn my house down?
A: Open.

Q: (L) I need to know, this is serious.
A: Cannot tell.

Q: (L) Well, what you have described sounds like a fire-truck.
A: Knowledge protects. We have helped you to gain knowledge.

Q: (L) So, I should just be alert and aware?
A: Good idea.

Q: (L) Did A__ B__ call M__?
A: Probable.

Q: (L) Is M__ the person who called earlier this evening?
A: Was some sort of device.

Q: (L) Who called after Freddie was here and did not leave a message?
A: Same.

Q: (L) How come all of this stuff started happening today.
A: Energy flow and W__ “bush rattling.” From remote location.

Q: (L) How can M__ attack me from a remote location?
A: He may try machinery.

Q: (L) What kind of machinery could cause my house to burn?
A: Not could cause, thinks could cause. Machines are frightening S__.

Q: (L) What is the likelihood of S__ paying back what she owes me? It’s a lot of money.
A: Depends on course of events.

Q: (L) And what are the possible courses?
A: 956,000 possibilities.

Q: (L) Is it better for the kids not to take the melatonin tonight in case M__ tries to burn my house down?
A: Okay either.

Q: (L) Should I just not have said or done anything?
A: Cannot “should have” done anything.

Q: (L) I would also like to ask you guys to use your abilities to counteract some of this influence in the sense of at least shielding.
A: Knowledge is shield.

Q: (L) Why is A__ depressed?
A: Biological changes.

Q: (L) Is it just a phase?
A: Close. S__ “crumbling”.

Q: (L) Why is she crumbling?
A: Mixed feelings.

Q: (L) Did she do the things she did toward me deliberately?
A: F__ heavy influence.

Q: (L) What does she think about F__ Now?
A: Getting progressively “spooked”.

Q: (L) By him?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is she figuring out how crazy he is?
A: Subjective.

Q: (L) Are S__ and S__ S__ believers in the Gospel according to F__?
A: Naive.

Q: (L) Is this fiasco going to open their eyes?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Is there any other thing I need to know about this situation?
A: Just be aware.

Q: (L) Will I be able to sleep safely tonight?
A: Should, but pray.

Q: (L) And who should I pray to?
A: Same as always.

Q: (L) Is there such a being as St. Michael?
A: In a sense.

Q: (L) Which higher being is most able to help a person in a situation of danger?
A: Universe.

Q: (L) Pray to the Universe?
A: Refer to recent session.

Q: (L) And what was in the recent session that I need to refer to?
A: November 26.

Q: (L) What was in that session?
A: Universe.

Q: (L) About universes, alternate universes etc?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Anything else I need to know?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is it alright if we have Chuck attend?
A: Good boy!

Q: (L) Okay then, good night.
A: Good night.

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December 3, 1994

Freddie, Laura, V__

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
A: Wasanna.

Q: (L) V__ had an incident at school where a small pile of powder appeared on her books after she had put her head down on them. What was this?
A: Materialized thoughts passed through frontal lobe.

Q: (V) Well, that is just amazing.
A: Amazement is fun.

Q: (V) I would like to know the source of the tension between my mother and myself?
A: Maternal influences. Psychological anxiety. Mother daughter rivalry for male attention. Enough personal dilly dallys. Long message to follow.

Pause:

Ukraine explosion; chemical or nuclear. Hawaii crash; aviation, possibly involving military. More California seismic activity after 1st of year: San Diego, San Bernardino, North Bakersfield, Barstow: all are fracture points. Hollister, Palo Alto, Imperial, Ukiah, Eureka, Point Mendocino, Monterrey, Offshore San Luis Obispo, Capistrano, Carmel: these are all stress points of fracture in sequence.

 

“Time” is indefinite. Expect gradual destruction of California economy as people begin mass exodus. Also, Shasta erupts; Lassen activity. Ocean floor begins to subside. Leave channel open and pause: Queen Elizabeth serious illness; blood related. Princess Diana suicide attempt. Gas explosions this winter in NE United States, Texas and other. Supernova and unusual weather all over. Memphis feels tremors. Minneapolis banking scandal relates to mysterious Nordic covenant. Evangelical sexual tryst exposed.

 

Gold is discovered in California after one of the quakes. UFOs dramatic increase and Gulf Breeze gets swarmed, becomes massive “Mecca”. Laura sees much more UFO activity. Huge wave of UFO activity. All manner and origins. Just you wait, it will give you chills and that feeling in the pit of your stomach. Many aliens will appear and we will be visible too. Think of it as a convention. All must awaken to this. It is happening right now. The whole populace will play individual roles according to their individual frequencies. This is only the beginning. Just you wait “Henry Higgins,” just you wait!

Q: (L) Are you a Rodgers and Hammerstein fan?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How do you relate to the Pleiadians?
A: Pleiadians are communicating with many others; we are bursting upon the scene with you, but we are essentially the same, just at slightly different focus points on the realm border.

Q: (L) Well, why is all this activity happening now?
A: The grand cycle is about to close presenting a unique opportunity.

Q: (L) Does this mean that this is a unique opportunity to change the future?
A: Future, past and present.

Q: (L) Well, that sort of makes me think that if things are not changed somewhat at this point on the grand cycle that things could get really direfully screwed up, is that correct?
A: But they won’t. You have not grasped concept.

Q: (L) Yeah I have, I got you, I understand. It’s just part of the cycle. It’s all a cycle. I mean their being here is part of us being here...
A: You do??? [inscribed giant question mark on board]

Q: (L) Do what?
A: You said you understood concept. Really? Learn.

Q: (L) Well, since you guys can do that, why can’t you teach us power symbols that will enhance our Reiki?
A: You are not ready.

Q: (L) But if we work on the Reiki will you teach us more power symbols?
A: Okay, we’ll give you one. [draws symbol]

Q: (L) What is this symbol called?
A: Anuki. Pronounced: AH - NEW - KEY.

Q: (V) And, as it applies to Reiki, what does it do? What does it represent?
A: Retention of energy at location most in need.

Q: (V) So, if we work on somebody, do we use the symbol at the beginning or at the end?
A: All Reiki you have as yet learned involves passage of healing energy, this one involves prolonged retention for strengthened power, thus results.

Q: (L) Where are you getting this from?
A: Access is Universal.

Q: (L) Did Dr. Usui also receive this and then not remember it?
A: Usui did not reveal all to Takata.

Q: (L) Why?
A: He was told that the knowledge was priceless and must not be wasted by too much dissemination particularly to those who do not have the burning desire for truth. Those who did, as you do, would find some way of accessing knowledge.

Q: (V) Are we also advised not to divulge this information?
A: As always, be discreet.

Q: (L) Is this something we should pass to ______ and ______.
A: Open.

Q: (L) Is it necessary to line the points up and the ascending line with geometric precision?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And then, the circle elongated or more a perfect circle?
A: [Demonstration of drawing of circle part of symbol]

Q: (V) Has there ever been a crop circle that looks like this? It looks like one I saw.
A: Precisely. All are interrelated

Q: (L) Is it true that crop circles are a kind of grand Reiki being given to the planet?
A: But also messages and lessons.

Q: (Laura) Well, could it also be said that Reiki symbols as applied to the body are etheric messages to the etheric body?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they communicate information into our field, so to speak?
A: Everything that exists at all levels is just lessons.

Q: (L) Well, in the case of Reiki, what I specifically want to know is if, say an individual is psychically, spiritually, karmically, or otherwise wounded or discombobulated, does the application of Reiki symbols give messages to the electromagnetic field to re-form or re-arrange the pattern in the perfect pattern intended?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And can repeated application of this, can not only physical things, but also etheric things, be healed? That is karma and so forth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So that our continual use of Reiki and application to ourselves and each other literally would cleanse us from our karmic burdens, memories or scars of the soul?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) I am just concerned about the previously mentioned “convention”...
A: Convention is because of realm border crossing.

Q: (L) And why is there a convention attending this realm border crossing? I mean, is it just a “reely big shew!”
A: It is an opportunity.

Q: (V) As in the windows are all opening at one time so that all these beings can get in at one time?
A: As in an opportunity to affect whole universe. Picture cosmic playing of “Pomp and Circumstance” AKA “Hope and Glory.”

Q: (Laura) How can a convention with slews of different kinds and races of people, converging on a single little pin- point planet on the outer edges of an insignificant galaxy, at the farthest reaches of this enormous universe, affect the whole thing?
A: That is your perception.

Q: (L) Well, what is the correct perception? Is the planet earth and the people thereon, and the things that are going on in this spot, the earth specifically, more important than maybe we would ordinarily have thought?
A: The Earth is a Convergence point.

Q: (L) Has it always been a convergence point? Was it designed to be a convergence point? Or, is it just going to be a convergence point this once?
A: Too many questions at once.

Q: (L) Was it designed to be a convergence point from the beginning?
A: Natural function.

Q: (L) Has it been a convergence point all along? Is that why so many weird things happen here?
A: That is difficult to answer because you have no understanding of “time”.

Q: (V) Has this type of convention thing happened on other planets with other groups of beings?
A: Has, is, and will.

Q: (Laura) So, in other words, there are other planets, I don’t mean similar in structure or occupation, but other planets that are convergence points?

Q: (V) Are they parallel universes?
A: Drifting.

Q: (L) If these convergence points are scattered around the universe, is the convergence of this realm border crossing going to occur simultaneously at all points in the universe that are convergence points?
A: No.

Q: (L) It only happens at say one, or selected, convergence points at any given point?
A: Close.

Q: (L) So, do realm borders have something to do with location?
A: Realm borders ride waves.

Q: (L) And where do these waves come from?
A: They constantly cycle.

Q: (L) Does it have something to do with the movement of the planet earth into it or does it move onto us?
A: Either or.

Q: (F) Does this convention or convergence have something to do with the fact that there are living beings on the earth?
A: Yes. And because you are at critical juncture in development.

Q: (L) I would like to know in terms of prophecy if the prophecies you gave us in the first session are still valid and upcoming?
A: They are evolving.

Q: (L) Does that mean that they are evolving to the point that they are going to happen soon?
A: Fluid.

Q: (L) Does that mean that some of them may not happen?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And the prophecies that you gave tonight, are they subject to change also?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Are they more solid?
A: Open.

Q: (L) I would like to know who is communicating with Ken Carey. Who does he get this information from?
A: Many.

Q: (L) Are these individuals “good guys” from our perspective?
A: Yes, some. Some is corrupted.

Q: (L) Is some of the information that comes through this channel corrupted?
A: Not as yet.

Q: (L) Are the 6th density Orions, also known as Transient Passengers, are they the same TPs that have been referred to as the ones who genetically engineered us or put us here?
A: Close. They are Wave riders.

Q: (L) Are those groups that ride the wave, is riding the wave part of the definition of Transient Passengers?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they like to ride this wave?
A: Is it “fun” for you to live on earth?

Q: (L) Well, I like living on earth a great deal, but I don’t like pain and suffering, and I don’t like man’s inhumanity to man and I don’t like to see other people suffer.
A: Do you live on earth for amusement?

Q: (L) I would like to live on Earth for amusement but I haven’t had a whole heck of a lot of laughs since I have been here this time. I would like to have a life on the planet where things were pleasant...
A: You misunderstood.

Q: (L) I see what you are saying. That’s where they live because that’s where they live.
A: Yes.

Q: (F) In other words, did you choose to live on Earth because you bought a ticket?

(Laura) I got it, Fred. I do want to ask about the “Course in Miracles” that is supposed to be channeled by Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit. Is this true?
A: No.

Q: (L) What is the source that this is channeled from?
A: Variable sources.

Q: (L) Are they good guys?
A: Some.

Q: (L) So, even the “Course in Miracles” must be taken with a grain of salt?
A: Good idea.

Q: (L) I sent the answers to Karla, is this what she wanted?
A: Yes. She is diverted at the moment by others.

Q: (L) Is it possible to do hypnotic future progressions and get accurate responses?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) In the book “Mass Dreams of the Future,” there are 4 scenarios described; are all of these scenarios accurate in terms of general experience?
A: Possible futures.

Q: (L) So, when a person does a future progression, they are seeing a possible future and not necessarily...
A: Depends on quality of channel.

Q: (L) So, some people can be hypnotically progressed and get really accurate information?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) I would like to know, in the description of the Pentecost, it was said that the disciples gathered in a room and prayed for days and days and suddenly a wind came rushing in and flames danced over their heads and they all began speaking in tongues. I would like to know if this event or something similar occurred?
A: No.

Q: (L) In other words, the true baptism of the “Holy Spirit” was when Jesus breathed on his disciples and transmitted something like the Reiki initiation?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Now, I had an experience a number of years ago when I was in church, when it seemed to me that I was speaking in tongues. Was that, in fact, what happened to me?
A: Suggestion.

Q: (L) It was suggested to me and therefore that is what occurred?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was any kind of psychic event occurring to me at that time?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Who or what energy is behind Jacques Vallee, the great scientist, investigator and writer? Sometimes it seems like he is missing the point and sometimes it seems like he is the only one who knows what is going on.
A: He means well and his intentions are pure and good.

Q: (L) What did Jesus look like? How tall was he?
A: 5’9”

Q: (L) What color eyes did he have?
A: Blue.

Q: (L) What color hair did he have?
A: Strawberry blond.

Q: (L) What was his skin tone?
A: Fair.

Q: (L) What was his weight?
A: 160.

Q: (L) Was he muscular?
A: Average.

Q: (L) Was he what we would consider handsome?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Is there anybody I or Fred would know who bears a resemblance to him in facial features?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Could you name someone?
A: Scanning....

Q: (L) Okay what was his occupation?
A: Carpenter.

Q: (L) Did he own his own home?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did John the Baptist really lose his head?
A: No.

Q: (L) In talking about the new level of being after transition to 4th density, will this be something like what is described in the book “Celestine Prophecy?”
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is the carbon 14 dating process fairly accurate, if not, what is its major weakness?
A: To an extent.

Q: (L) What is its major weakness?
A: Same as yours.

Q: (L) Which is?
A: “Time” does not exist.

Q: (L) When was the last time a realm border crossed as far as the earth is concerned?
A: As you measure, on Earth, 309,000 years ago.

Q: (L) What does this wave consist of in terms of energy?
A: Feeling.

Q: (L) This wave is feeling? It is a wave of emotion?
A: Hyperkinetic sensate.

Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: All.

Q: (L) We don’t understand
A: Too complex for this medium.

Q: (L) Okay. How many times has the wave come and involved the earth as we know it?
A: Infinite number.

Q: (L) I would like to know if the Shroud of Turin was ever wrapped around Jesus.
A: No.

Q: (L) Was it wrapped around somebody who was crucified?
A: No.

Q: (L) How was it made?
A: Wrapped around Roman worker.

Q: (L) What caused the image on the shroud?
A: Body oils, hormones and other physiological chemicals.

Q: (L) Well, the kids have wanted me to ask this one for a long time and I keep forgetting. There was a woman out in California who was taken to the emergency room. Several attendants and a doctor collapsed while treating her and there was a big hoopla about contaminated blood.
A: Air conditioning system spread pesticides.

Q: (L) Recently there was a supposed secret diary of Edgar Cayce reported in the tabloids. Was there such a diary?
A: No.

Q: (L) I received an article from Piers about experiments by a fellow named Persinger who has been trying to duplicate the “abduction” experience by subjecting people to EM fields in a sensory deprivation chamber. I would like comments on that, and second...
A: Nonsense, some have closed mind inspired by fear.

Q: (L) My concern is that if he is doing this to people, and we have talked about electromagnetic energy blowing holes in the dimensional boundaries, my concern is that this experimentation could be detrimental to the persons being experimented on; is this a possibility?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What could be the results of subjecting someone to these electromagnetic fields?
A: Cessation of body.

Q: (L) In other words, it could kill them?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Could it also open doors between dimensions and allow other things to enter in?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Could they be subjected to spirit or demonic possession by this method?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Could they also be subjected to further programming by aliens through this method?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Anything else you wish to say on this?
A: Always keep open mind.

Q: (L) Are there any psychological effects that could occur to a person as a result of this type of experimentation?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) In the establishing of an ongoing connection between an abductee and the abductor, what methods or techniques are used? Is it a psychic bond?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is it formed technologically?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) There are so many stories of the “gazing” process where the alien controls that abductee by staring into their eyes and the abductee feels full of love and harmony and thereby thinks that the experience is beneficial. This makes me wonder just exactly what is the purpose of this “gazing”?
A: Hypnotic.

Q: (L) Does it also form a bond?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the substance of this bond? Is there a psychic cord or connection and is it true that the same...
A: Channel wavering.... (planchette spinning around board)

Q: (L) Is that all you are going to say on that?
A: Please say good night.

Q: (L) Why?
A: Energy going.

Q: (Laura) Are you tired Fred?

(F) Not particularly.

(Laura) Well they have never had their energy go before... and, especially since I am asking this particular question... is there some reason you do not want to answer this particular question?
A: Save...

Q: (L) Goodnight

End of Session

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December 5, 1994

Freddie, Laura, V__

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Celestial dudes!

[Laura and V__ had been trying to make contact prior to arrival of Fred and were commenting on the fact that not so much as a nudge came from the planchette.]

A: Look upon that as a sign.

Q: (L) A sign of what?
A: Kindly remove ridge from board.

Q: [Adjustments made]
A: Move board away from center of table.

Q: [Further adjustments made] (L) Is that better?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Now, look upon what as a sign?
A: Channel.

Q: (L) Channel? How is that a sign channel? I don’t get it?
A: Who? [draws large question mark]

Q: (L) Who?
A: Is.

Q: (L) Okay, you mean who is the channel?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) They are trying to tell us Freddie is the channel. Who do we have with us tonight?
A: Urua.

Q: (L) I have a number of questions prepared. Now, the beginning questions may seem a little bit personal, and we understand that you are STO. We are in need of a little service tonight. Is this alright?
A: Okay, but you are supposed to be moving toward STO.

Q: (L) Well, we are. The answering of some of these questions will stabilize certain aspects of our lives which will then enable us to devote ourselves more fully to helping others. Is that understandable?
A: Turn board, please.

Q: (L) Which way?
A: Not important, just turn slightly.

Q: (L) Will that do it?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) First question asked by neighbor down the street, what is the nature of the frog phenomenon.
A: Drugs.

Q: (L) How does this relate to drugs?
A: Left over influence.

Q: (L) Where are these frogs coming from?
A: Energy brings.

Q: (L) His energy manifests them? Or the drug energy manifests them?
A: Same.

Q: (L) Same? So, these are a manifestation of the frequency of drug use, is that a way of stating it?
A: Past drug use.

Q: (L) It is his own and not anyone else in the house?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What do the frogs signify? What is the symbolism of the frogs?
A: Not signify, consequence.

Q: (L) Are these actual, physical frogs coming from somewhere?
A: Brought on.

Q: (L) I don’t understand. Are we talking in circles here?
A: Your perception.

Q: (L) Well, if you are a STO being, isn’t our perception the one that matters? The one you are serving by clarification?
A: Serve by help to learn, learn by using mind. Direct answers don’t help to learn.

Q: (L) Okay, is there anything this individual can do to...
A: What would you do?

Q: (L) What would I do in his situation? Well, I would quit all drugs, I would begin meditating, and I would try in all ways to straighten myself out because a bunch of desiccated frogs suddenly appearing all over the place in my house would probably freak me out.
A: Yes, and?
(large question mark)

Q: (L) Obviously I am supposed to think of something else...
A: SRT

Q: (L) What does that mean? Is that an abbreviation?
A: Yes. You have used the two words together extensively recently. Okay now, is part of book title.

Q: (L) Spirit Releasement Therapy?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, so what this person needs is spirit releasement?
A: Bingo!

Q: (L) And so, what did we just learn from all of that?
A: How to use your mind.

Q: (L) Okay, so he has some attachments. V__’s friend, B__ P__ says she has channeled in the past. Who does she channel?
A: Lizards.

Q: (V__) When she was channeling did she realize... well, obviously she didn’t realize...
A: Most channel them.

Q: (V__) So, then, it wouldn’t be advisable to compare her channeled information with this information?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) My mom wants to know about the physical condition of the lady she is taking care of whose name is M__ F__. Is there anything she can do to improve the condition of this lady. Or, can you tell how long this lady will be in this plane?
A: Rub for circulation.

Q: (L) Is there any possibility of this lady getting better so that she can get about on her own to any extent?
A: Always possible.

Q: (L) What is the likelihood of her acceptance of getting better soon?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Okay, is it seen in the immediate future that this lady has chosen to transition?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Mother also wanted me to ask if it would be advisable to invest funds in the marketing of my cream?
A: Please understand, we are not here to lead you by the hand, because, that would interfere with your free will, which is how you learn, which is how you progress.

Q: (L) Well, all things considered, I would still like to know if investing money in that project would be one of the better courses of action to take as far as developing a source of income.
A: What have we just told you?

Q: (L) Yeah, yeah. Is P__ Z__ going to accept the paper work for the mortgage assignment as it is being drawn up?
A: What are you going to do to help yourself?

Q: (L) Well, I am actually asking this as a test question to test your ability to predict because it doesn’t matter a whole lot if he accepts it the way it’s being drawn up because if he wants to have it changed we can always change it. It’s no big deal.
A: This is deteriorating into a personal forum.

Q: (L) Well, somehow I don’t feel that it is wrong to ask personal questions to test our source because that is the only way we can determine what kind of information we are getting.
A: Ask test questions that potentially affect all. P__ Z__ is not particularly well known in Katmandu, for example.

Q: (L) I would like to ask about a book called the “I AM” discourses. Could you tell us the source of this book?
A: Good.

Q: (L) What density level is the source of this book?
A: Sixth level.

Q: (L) Can you tell us the name of the group behind this book?
A: All is one and the same.

Q: (L) As a service to another person can we get a health reading?
A: Is this of benefit to all?

Q: (L) Well, does this mean that we are going to be restricted forever to general questions that we can’t verify?
A: Verification is not dependent upon personal nature. It is not STO if it limits.

Q: (V) So, asking about just one person is not service to all, it is just service to the one person?
A: And you.

Q: (L) Well, I am starting to wonder... I mean, if I didn’t have to go back and start all over on prehistoric earth, in the primordial soup, I would think this STO road is just a little bit rough.
A: No pain, no gain.

Q: (L) I don’t want any more pain!
A: You are in the wrong place then.

Q: (F) I think this should be noteworthy, if Karla Turner claims that you can’t trust anything that comes from this source because it will only tell you what it wants you to hear and so forth, this proves that this source does not just tell us what we want to hear.

(L) Most assuredly.

(F) It sometimes tells us what we don’t want to hear and sometimes it tells us what ever it feels like. Another thing that should be noteworthy is, every time you try to do something to verify something, it keeps answering that verification does not depend upon personal information.

(L) Does this mean that I have to can my last three questions?
A: Aren’t things of universal significance more important?

Q: (L) Well, didn’t you say before, when I was asking things that had to do with the various events of the past two years that knowledge of them was protection. If that is the case, why can’t I ask about these things now?
A: Yes, but we have repeatedly told all you need to know for your protection.

Q: (L) In regards to my protection and V__’s and Freddie’s, and this is going to be the last on this series of questions, V__ and I both received cards from A__ B__ who, as you know, is hooked up with the metaphysical church group, I also received a card from S__ V__ who is hooked up with G__ and J__, is there any underlying motivation from these individuals to send these cards and should we just disregard them?
A: Up to you.

Q: (F) Well, Laura, you can’t ask for advice every step of the way on how to deal with everybody you know.
(L) I know.
(V) Have I been abducted in the last month?
A: No.

Q: (V) Do we need to interpret our dreams through this source?
A: Why not?

Q: (L) You mean you will discuss our dreams?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) What a relief! A concession! Okay, I had a dream last night, I dreamed about large mechanical flying “V’s” that had flapping wings like metal bat boxes. They scared me. Then, I was with my family and we were going to see my cousin who is deceased and she had just had a baby. The baby was walking and talking and quoting Shakespeare. My Aunt got very upset and said it was unseemly because the baby was illegitimate and she walked out. The baby was only 10 days old. My aunt ran out the door and said it was evil.
A: Suggestion, get on computer net ASAP.

Q: (L) In other words, I really need to take my computer down and get the A drive fixed etc and log onto the network?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) What does that have to do with the dream?

(Laura) I think it relates back to when Terry and Jan were here and we were talking about dreams and the suggestion was given to hook up to the network and discuss and share dreams. Like a dream forum kind of thing. Is there any significance to the ten days in this dream?
A: When you network, your entire life will dramatically improve immediately! See, sometimes we do advise when appropriate.

Q: (L) Alright. Point well taken. Would you please elaborate on the concept that alien abductions are “the scourge of God” and are manifested so that consciousness may grow and differentiate itself by a refusal to accept negative experience within the delusive material world?
A: Nonsense!

Q: (L) Well, that was real elaborate! Would you comment on the Biblical command to not make graven images. Why was this command issued?
A: In order to prevent control by too many sources.

Q: (L) How would not making graven images prevent control by other or too many sources?
A: Deception.

Q: (L) Who issued this command to not make graven images?
A: Central.

Q: (L) What is “Central?”
A: Level 7.

Q: (L) What is the true symbolism of the Egyptian scarab and why was it invented?
A: Operation.

Q: (L) The symbolism was operation? What do you...
A: Was an operation.

Q: (L) How was a scarab an operation?
A: Think. Action.

Q: (L) The scarab is a dung beetle. It rolls dung into little balls. Am I onto something here?
A: Continue.

Q: (L) And supposedly the scarab symbolized eternal life because it represented the rolling of the sun... oh dear, wait a minute... the rolling of the sun across the sky is what the Egyptians understood... but what the dung beetle really does is simply rolls dung up into little balls... is this the operation you are talking about... the rolling of dung into little balls?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, that’s all I know about the scarab so you are going to have to help me out here.
A: Life cycle.

Q: (L) Okay, the life cycle. I would like to know what force was behind the rise and domination of Oliver Cromwell?
A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Okay, there is a woman named Jane Allyson who channels an entity known as Zeena. I would like to know who or what is Zeena?
A: Just Jane.

Q: (L) So, she is just channeling herself? What is the significance of the number 444 as repeated by Cytron, a robot channeled by Jane Allyson, a super cyborg?
A: Zilch. [Much laughter]

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the Karmic ramification of the killing of those two little boys in South Carolina by their mother? Everybody in the U.S. will be interested in this one, maybe not Katmandu, though.
A: Pain teaches.

Q: (L) And, in this case is the mother suffering the pain?
A: And all others involved including the whole nation. All is lessons.

Q: (L) Did these two little boys volunteer to come in for this purpose?
A: Yes. Were higher density beings on mission.

Q: (L) Do 4th density STO’s feed off of 3rd density energy?
A: No.

Q: (L) I would like to ask about the Starseed Transmissions. I would like to know about the Bird Tribes. What is this source?
A: Ken Carey is only channeling his alternate self.

Q: (V) Who are good channels, then, if every one we ask about is channeling themselves or false channels, who can we look to as a clean channel?
A: We have already told you of one example.

Q: (L) Barbara Marciniak?
A: This session.

Q: (L) The I Am discourses?
A: Review. Graven images.

Q: (Laura) Could you tell me what source of information was behind the...
A: Akashic records.

Q: (V) I wanted to ask about that and I had totally forgotten! Are the Akashic records the same thing as the source that you called “Central?”
A: No.

Q: (L) Are the Akashic records the same source that the I Am discourses come from?
A: All is one at base but different “branches”.

Q: (L) Was Nostradamus getting his information from the Akashic records?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, Nostradamus’ quatrains, if interpreted correctly, would actually be valid.
A: Interpretation is the key.

Q: (L) If we were to hold a series of sessions about the quatrains of Nostradamus, would you be able to help us interpret them?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Would that be a worthwhile project for us?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) Are the 6th density STS individuals that you indicated are the Orions, these are the same beings, I understand, that genetically engineered or created mankind, is that correct?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they the first to alter us after creation?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Are the 6th density Orions known as Transient Passengers?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So there are Transient Passengers that are STO as well as STS?
A: TP is “wanderer”.

Q: (L) And what is a wanderer?
A: TP.

Q: (L) Well, the idea of the Wanderers, according to the Ra Material, is 4th or 5th density beings that have chosen to come back into 3rd density to help us. Would that be the same kind of Wanderer?
A: 5th or 6th density.

Q: (L) Is Fred a Wanderer?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Am I or V__?
A: Open.

Q: (V) What if we felt like we were?
A: Check it out.

Q: (L) How?
A: How would you think?

Q: (V) Faith, I guess, and how I feel. What else do you have to go on?
A: Not answer, try again.

Q: (L) Would hypnosis be the solution?
A: Bingo!

Q: (L) Okay. Now, I would like to know, for the sake of all the Theosophists around the world, what was the source of the information in the book “Isis Unveiled” by Helena Blavatsky?
A: Orions STS and STO 6th Density.

Q: (L) So, her information was from both sides? And it is up to the reader to figure out which is which?
A: Good idea.

Q: (L) Is there any possibility that the information we get through this source is STS oriented?
A: Yes. Always possibility.

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the definition of, and would you describe for us, a dimensional curtain?
A: Self-explanatory. Think.

Q: (L) When we are talking about dimensional curtains we are talking about divisions at the same level of density, is that correct?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Can dimensional curtains be between dimensions at the same level of density?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are dimensional curtains also something that occurs between levels of density?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, a dimensional curtain is a point at which some sort of change takes place... what causes this change?
A: Nature.

Q: (L) In specific terms of the engineering of it, what defines this change?
A: Experience.

Q: (L) Is it in any way related to atomic or quantum physics or the movement of atoms?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay. An atom is in 3rd density. What distinguishes it from an atom in 4th density?
A: Reality.

Q: (L) What distinguishes one realm from another?
A: Assumptions.

Q: (L) Okay, what you assume or expect is what you perceive about that atom depending upon which reality you are in, is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What determines your assumptions?
A: Experience.

Q: (L) My experience of atoms is that they congregate in such a way as to form solid matter...
A: Every thing that exists is merely a lesson.

Q: (L) Okay, so once we have learned certain lessons, as in experience of certain things, then our assumptions change?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, is this wave that is coming our direction going to give us an experience that is going to change our assumptions?
A: Catch 22: One half is that you have to change your assumptions in order to experience the wave in a positive way.

Q: (L) And what does this wave consist of in absolute terms?
A: Realm border.

Q: (L) Is that realm border as in a cut-off point between one reality and another?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is that realm border as in dimensional curtain?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So the planet earth is going to pass through a dimensional curtain?
A: Or an earth. All is merely a lesson, and nothing, repeat nothing, more.

Q: (L) Well, my experience with lessons has been that they are generally painful. Is this realm border crossing, or this merging experience going to be what we, or I, in the 3rd density, would perceive as painful?
A: Wait and see.

Q: (V) Is the realm border 3rd density?
A: Have answered; stop and contemplate.

Q: (L) What exactly are crop circles and how are they formed? I know we have asked about crop circles before, but I would like to know the specific mechanism by which they are formed?
A: Not issue, but energy vortex.

Q: (L) Does this energy vortex arise from within the earth itself?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where does this energy vortex issue from?
A: Here. Sixth density.

Q: (L) Do you want to give us more on the wave, or realm curtain?
A: No, not at this time. You have enough for now. Goodnight.

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