Archived material recently discovered by Ralph Ring

  • Complete unpublished book by Otis T. Carr, written in 1952, entitled DIMENSIONS OF MYSTERY.

    The typewritten manuscript is an 83 page PDF (23 Mb)

Nine 1958 Long John Nebel radio shows featuring Otis T. Carr and/or his work. The quality is poor, but the content is of historical interest.


Long John Nebel had a wide audience, covered all aspects of the unusual and paranormal, and was the Art Bell of his day.


Margaret Storm on her new book Return of the Dove

featuring Otis Carr, date unknown (Part 1)






Margaret Storm on her new book Return of the Dove

featuring Otis Carr, date unknown (Part 2)






Otis Carr, 19 April 1958

(Part 1)






Otis Carr, 19 April 1958

(Part 2)






Margaret Storm and Otis Carr, 11 July 1958

(Part 1)






Margaret Storm and Otis Carr, 11 July 1958

(Part 2)





Otis Carr, 15 November 1958

(Part 1)






Otis Carr, 15 November 1958

(Part 2)






Otis Carr, 15 November 1958

(Part 3)




Project Camelot is privileged to have been introduced to Ralph Ring, a gifted intuitive technician who in the late 1950s and early 1960s worked closely with Otis T. Carr, a protégé of the great inventor Nikola Tesla.


Prior to meeting Carr, Ralph had helped the famous French oceanographer Jacques Cousteau develop the aqualung, and had then spent a period working with a government-funded research organization called Advanced Kinetics.

Bill Ryan talked with Ralph for over twelve hours on their first meeting, in March 2006. He was genial, charismatic, gentle, compelling, and sprightly for his 71 years. The story he told was captivating.


Ralph Ring in 1984

In essence, the account is as follows.


Carr and a small group of engineers and technicians, one of whom was Ralph, built a flying disk, powered by rotating electromagnets in conjunction with a number of small, ingenious capacitor-like devices called "Utrons".


A number of prototypes were built, ranging in size from experimental models a few feet across to a passenger-carrying craft which was fully 45 feet in diameter.


The smaller disks flew successfully – one even disappeared completely and was permanently lost – and Ralph himself testifies to having co-piloted, with two others, the large craft a distance of some ten miles, traversing this distance instantaneously.



Carr was seriously intent on taking his craft to the moon.


However, two weeks after Ralph's dramatic experience, their laboratory was forcibly shut down by government agents and all files and documentation were confiscated. The group was forced to disband, and the project was never completed.


Dismayed and frustrated, Ralph later bought some land in Arizona where he built a futuristic disk-shaped home which he said was astonishingly energy-efficient and, he later realized, decades ahead of its time.


Carr's work has been recorded in several places, but the details are relatively scant.


One highly respected physicist, researching alternative energy systems with the backing of a substantial organization, told Bill Ryan that he "had never investigated Otis Carr because his claims just seemed too outlandish." But few researchers are aware that one of the team of Carr's engineers is still alive.


Project Camelot is proud to tell Ralph Ring's story, and will be releasing a video interview with him within the next few weeks.

When recalling the heady events of the late 1950s working day and night with Carr, Ring again and again stressed that the key was working with nature.

"Resonance", he would emphasize repeatedly. "You have to work with nature, not against her."

He described how when the model disks were powered up and reached a particular rotational speed,

"...the metal turned to Jell-o. You could push your finger right into it. It ceased to be solid. It turned into another form of matter, which was as if it was not entirely here in this reality. That's the only way I can attempt to describe it. It was uncanny, one of the weirdest sensations I've ever felt."

What was it like working with Carr?

"He was an unquestioned genius. Tesla had recognized his quality immediately and had taught him everything he knew. He was inspired, and – like Tesla – seemed to know exactly what to do to get something to work. He was a private man and was also very metaphysical in his thinking. I think the fact that he was not formally trained in physics helped him.


He was not constrained by any preconceived ideas. As crazy as it sounds now, he was determined to fly to the moon and really believed it could be done. I believed it. We all did."


Did the craft fly?

"Fly is not the right word. It traversed distance. It seemed to take no time. I was with two other engineers when we piloted the 45' craft about ten miles. I thought it hadn't moved – I thought it had failed. I was completely astonished when we realized that we had returned with samples of rocks and plants from our destination. It was a dramatic success. It was more like a kind of teleportation.

"What's more, time was distorted somehow. We felt we were in the craft about fifteen or twenty minutes. We were told afterwards that we'd been carefully timed as having been in the craft no longer than three or four minutes. I still have no complete idea how it worked. We just built it exactly according to Carr's instructions. Everything had to be perfect... it all had to be just so, or it he said it would not work: a kind of symbiotic state between man and machine.

"The Utron was the key to it all. Carr said it accumulated energy because of its shape, and focused it, and also responded to our conscious intentions. When we operated the machine, we didn't work any controls. We went into a kind of meditative state and all three of us focused our intentions on the effect we wanted to achieve. It sounds ridiculous, I know. But that's what we did, and that's what worked. Carr had tapped into some principle which is not understood, in which consciousness melds with engineering to create an effect. You can't write that into equations. I have no idea how he knew it would work. But it did.


"I've lost count of the number of people who have refused to believe what happened. I no longer talk about it. It's no fun being laughed at and ridiculed. But I've described it exactly as it occurred. One day someone will build the disk just as we did and they'll have the same experience. All his blueprints still exist. Nowadays, it would all be done with digital and solid state circuitry - no moving parts would be necessary.

"I've heard that the aliens use the same principle to operate their craft. Their physics seems to work in harness with their consciousness. The craft amplifies the power of their minds. Their craft won't operate without the pilots. I've heard that's why we can't operate their craft – or, at any rate, we can't operate them the way they do. We're just not adept enough mentally and spiritually.


So there are two secrets to making the saucers work.

  • One is the advanced engineering

  • The other is the mental and spiritual ability

We may have duplicated some of the first, but we may be a long way from the second yet."

Ralph Ring with Bill Ryan

Bill Ryan left Ralph having promised to get the information into the hands of someone who could understand and then duplicate the dramatic experiments conducted by Carr and his team.


Ralph and Bill Ryan had agreed to work together to see the project through to its reality. Shortly afterwards, Ralph went into hospital for a routine knee replacement operation.


He accidentally received the wrong treatment, and nearly died three times. At the time of writing (July 2006) he has just recently emerged, very frail, from intensive care - but is determined to tell his story.


Prior to that he had enjoyed perfect health for 71 years.

This is exactly what Project Camelot is for.


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