December 19, 1998
Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
Q: And where do you transmit through?
Q: I have two questions I want to ask before Ark gets started
because I think they will be short. The first one is: what is up
with my son? Why is he acting so much like a bully?
A: Many reasons.
Q: Can we do something about it effectively and peacefully?
A: To an extent.
Q: What would be the best course of action of the ones we were
Q: Talk to him? Level with him?
A: Why not?
Q: Very quickly, can you give me a synopsis of the reasons for this
behavior? Is he jealous of Ark, is he a portal of attack, is he
reflecting his father’s influence, or all of the above?
More 2 than 1 or 3.
Q: You mean he is being used to disrupt us in an attempt to divert,
slow down or stop the ‘mission?’
A: Yes. There are physiological components, too.
Q: What are the physiological components?
Q: Can anything be done about the physiology part - is there a tea,
or an herb, or a supplement that will help him? Something to ease
that for him?
A: Would be unwise. Might lead to still further substance
Q: What substance experimentation?
A: You know them as drugs.
Q: Why would giving a tea or herbal preparation lead to substance
abuse or experimentation?
A: Leads one of “a tender stage” to believe the answers lie within
Q: So, we need to level with him, and he needs to develop spiritual
and mental controls of his own?
Can you get me any closer?
A: You must know that there are karmic issues here, therefore the
rapids must be
Q: Can you tell us the nature of the karmic interaction?
Q: Is the karma between me and my son, or Ark and my son?
A: More for you.
Q: Wonderful! Just what I needed! More on my plate!
(A) What does
this mean, ‘further substance experimentation.’ Is he experimenting?
Q: (L) He told me that he did, but didn’t like it. Was he telling me
A: Not entirely. You have been naive before. Best not to think your
do not seek to deceive you. This is almost a matter of policy with
them. Why would you suspect otherwise?
Q: Well, I DID think that all the care I had taken in talking to
them and explaining things to them, and being open with them,
sharing with them; the sacrifices and suffering they are aware of,
that there would be less of that sort of thing. I guess I am living
in an illusion here...
A: It is far more complex than that. Even in the most open, loving
environments, karma threads its needle. It is not possible to
control one’s fate unless one is familiar with all, all of the
energies involved. At 3rd density, you do not possess all of the
tools, which are born of a higher understanding. It is somewhat akin
to taking a shower while donning a raincoat!!
Q: Well, that seems to
say that we have some work to do in terms of higher knowledge and
these energies. Can you give some guidance in this direction?
A: You know, or have access to the guidance. You often forget, or
neglect it in
the passionate, emotional environment of the practicing!
special word of wisdom for dealing with my son, or all of my
children, at the moment?
A: On the very lowest rung of the ladder of navigation, losing
enhance self-esteem, thus softening the blow somewhat.
What blow are you talking about?
A: What do you think?
Q: J___ has received a blow?
Q: Are you talking about me?
A: More or less. It is a blow for third densities to see their best
Q: So, you are saying that any and all of my plans for my children
should just be chucked out the window and I should just forget it?
A: No, of course not!! But, “your plans,” negates the acceptance of
that their souls have “plans” of their own!
Q: So, all I can do is get through it as best I can, and soon they
will all be on their own...
Q: So, I should plan for the day when they will all be out of the
house. I have almost reached that point. I have stopped planning for
them, I have stopped trying to shape their lives...
(F) Yes, but you
know, everybody who has kids goes through this, and the more kids
you have, the more you go through it.
(L) Well, some parents keep
trying to control everything and it is just an endless, fruitless,
struggle. I’m not doing to do that. I can see when a strategic
retreat is advisable.
(F) I have never yet seen or heard of a parent
who was truly capable of seeing that the desires they had for their
children would be completely realized.
(L) Anything further on that
Q: Now, I THINK that my second question will be a lot quicker and
simpler! If, at 4th density, there is variability of physicality,
and the Lizzies, as you have previously said, are engineering new
bodies for themselves to occupy in some sort of mass transition at
the time of this realm border crossing; in this state of variability
of physicality, why do they need to engineer new bodies for
themselves? Why, in point of fact, are Lizzies, Lizzies?
Too many questions.
Q: Why do they look like Lizards?
A: They do not.
Q: Well, why do we call them Lizard Beings? I mean, YOU named them
A: We label in accordance with your familiarity. If we had called
“Drachomonoids,” what would be your point of reference??
What do they REALLY look like?
A: You can figure as needed.
Q: You said they resemble upright alligators with humanoid features,
six to eight feet tall...
Q: So, why do they look like that?
Q: Does biology exist at 4th density?
Q: Yet, its a variable physical density, right?
A: Yes, but what is your assumption here?
I don’t know what my assumption is. I guess that I am assuming
that if it is a varible state, they could have a different biology
very easily. Isn’t that the case?
Can they appear as something else? Change their physicality?
Q: When you say ‘temporary,’ what exactly do you mean? Temporal
relates to time.
A: We have explained before that the biggest single factor regarding
is the awareness level.
Q: The awareness level. Okay, how does that relate to them only
being able to temporarily change their appearance. Is this because
they can control OUR awareness?
A: Closer. Are you not yet aware that absolutely everything, we
everything is an illusion?!?
Q: At some level, yes. So, still I ask, why, in the illusion in
which we exist, or in which they exist...
(A) They say here that
everything is an illusion, and on the other hand they say there is
consciousness and matter. Everything is an illusion? Even this?
Q: (A) God is also an illusion?
Q: (A) Illusion to whom?
A: To those not on level 7. Your learning naturally dictates your
Once you no longer require something, you naturally move beyond it.
However, you retain it as a function of understanding.
(A) And I am also an illusion! And understanding is also an
Back to my question: who created Lizzies AS LIZZIES?
A: Everything is real, therefore, illusion is reality.
Q: (L) If everything is an illusion, from what does this illusion
spring, and into what space does it spring?
A: Your consciousness.
Q: (L) Where did this consciousness originate?
A: Consciousness is the absolute, the center point.
Q: (L) Where is it centered?
A: Within the access.
Q: (L) What is the access?
A: The prompt that begets energy.
Q: (L) Of what is this energy made?
A: The consciousness.
Q: (L) Was there ever a time when this consciousness did not exist?
A: No, but there never was a time.
Q: (L) What prompted this consciousness to dream up all these
A: Need for balance. Energy cannot exist within a vacuum, therefore
pulse. Hence you have waves.
Q: (L) You say that the impetus for dreaming up all the illusions
was the need for balance; that implies imbalance, and that the
imbalance was existence in a vacuum...
(L) What was the impetus for the need for balance?
Not a need, per se, just a natural function.
(L) Well, when you have a pulse, you have a wave, and if you have
a wave, that implies time.
A: Therein lies the crux of your 3rd density illusion. Why assume
given aspect of the pulse is not occurring simultaneously with any
other. And if any are, all are. Until you once and for all break
free from the illusion of time, you will not advance.
(L) Well, back to my question...
A: No, your question cannot be answered unless you stop assuming the
Q: (L) I am done, then.
(A) This is a question about time...
[laughter] You say time is an illusion, but you have said many times
things about time, and I want to ask about this time. I asked
whether time was to be considered as the fourth dimension, you said
why not consider time as springing from the fifth dimension. Was
this a joke, or was this a serious thing for me to consider?
Q: (A) Okay. At another point when we were talking about gravitons,
you first said that there were no gravitons, per se, but that a
‘graviton’ was an electron in a time vacuum.
Q: (A) When you said that there are not gravitons, you meant that
there are none in the usual sense of the word as implied by some
A: Yes, closer.
Q: (A) Well, in a well devised Unified Field Theory, there is a
place for something we may call ‘graviton,’ and this something comes
from, or has a similar source to an electron, but within a time
vacuum. At that point I started to think of time as a kind of field
- like other fields. This field has something to do with this fifth
dimension. I have a hypothesis about how one can have time coming
from a fifth dimension, and what a time vacuum means. This means
that, where there is a time vacuum, there is no time.
Q: (A) Okay, now, this is one thing. At some other point we were
speaking about pentagons and hexagons and I tried to be tricky and
when it came to pentagons, I wrote a mathematical formula, a symbol
for a pentagon, and then there was the question of signs. We needed
five signs. I asked you whether there should be four pluses and one
minus, or 3 pluses and two minus. The answer was that there should
be 3 pluses and two minuses in a pentagon. Now, what about a
What should I put in a hexagon? Three pluses and three minuses, or
and two minuses?
A: Four and two.
Q: (A) That is what I hoped for, however, I see a certain
discrepancy between this pentagon, because if I start from five
dimensions, and I try to build something such as a time field from
one plus and one minus, I use one dimension, which is like a light
dimension in this five dimensional space, then I end up with two
pluses and one minus, which has nothing to do with anything that we
know in physics. For me there is a contradiction between three
pluses and two minuses and the fact that I need to build time as an
extra field. What to do? I don’t know. What should I do?
When we said “spring forth” from 5th dimension, what interesting
possibilities does this pose?
Q: (A) You get what we may call a time form and this time form is
sometimes like any other physical field. So, of course the different
possibilities that I can mathematically model: time form, time
vacuum, different times, time loops, and other things. These are
interesting possibilities that I have, provided I use something
similar to Kaluza-Klein. Did I miss something?
A: It is not that you miss something, it is merely that you have not
Q: (A) What is this something?
Q: (A) Okay, at some point we were talking about a 3 dimensional
matrix, 12x12x12. I was wondering where this 12 comes from, and I
was thinking that 12 is 2x6 and I was supposed to be looking at
hexagons, and a hexagon represents 6 dimensions, four pluses and two
minuses. If I add to this 6 energies corresponding to 6 dimensions,
then I have 12 dimensions, and this would account for number 12. Is
Q: (A) Now, this all has something to do with gravity, and at some
point you said that all this gravity/anti-gravity business is just
the way, and that the main goal is to attain higher knowledge. What
is this higher knowledge; what kind of higher knowledge?
You are on the path.
Q: (A) I want to ask about Ruggerio Santilli. He was here, talking
to you, using his own terminology. You were answering using some of
his terminology. Several times I tried to understand his work, but I
simply cannot. Is this something wrong with me?
Q: (A) What should I do about this? I have all these papers he wrote
which I collected, and I really wanted to study them and understand,
but whenever I started, I had to stop because I do not understand.
He is using undefined terms.
A: Undefined terms take shape when fine tuned. Ruggerio Santilli is
a rogue in the field of physics because he strays from convention.
His dreams direct his research. But this is not such a bad thing. It
frees the conscious mind from the prisons so revered at your density
level. Best to lovingly fine tune the work of the dreamer, thus
giving it substance in the realm of convention.
Q: (L) How does one go about lovingly fine tuning the work of a
(A) This is not the point. The point is that he is writing
mathematics - and what he is writing is NOT mathematics. He is not
able to define his terms; neither he nor his friends who write for
him. So, it is not mathematics, it is dreaming. I like reading
dreams, but when it is a mathematical paper with a formula...
So, the next obvious question is how to convert this into
A: Is tricky, but requires patience in the form of removing and
mathematical units that do not fit.
Q: (A) He has this obsession with using variable units...
iso-units... and he
has this view of gravity that is similar to the view of some other
physicists... and, according to him, space-time is flat. It is just
space with an iso-unit - a deformed unit. This is contrary to
space-time is curved, and you have worm-holes and all kinds of
topological features. But, for Santilli, space-time is a flat space
with time. Is he right in this?
A: And flat cannot curve?
Q: (A) If something is flat, it cannot have a hole, or a wormhole...
if it is flat, it is flat. It cannot get a hole which is connected
to the other hole.
A: What if the “hole” is parallel to the plane of the flat curve,
Q: (A) In Einstein’s gravitational theory and cosmology, we are told
that the universe is closed, so it looks like a spherical surface...
it cannot be a spherical surface...
A: That assumes only one universe. Not interconnecting ones of
and therein lies the fault with Einstein’s theory. However, there is
a void of known substance to Einstein’s Unified Field Theory. Why do
you suppose he embarked upon that path to begin with? It was to
serve as a merger between his hypotheses. Its completion was made
Q: (A) Okay, we have this material world, and the spiritual world,
and mathematics is supposed to help us to bridge these two worlds. I
know how to describe the material world, fields, particles, waves,
quantum waves, with mathematics. But, I want to know what
mathematical concepts are needed or should be used to describe this
other part, the spiritual part. Now the only thing I know about this
spiritual part is that we were told that consciousness is the purest
form of energy. Should the mathematical concepts used to describe
energy also be used to describe consciousness? Or, is something else
A: Well, you certainly get there by utilizing mathematical concepts.
Q: (A) Well, we certainly have to get there by utilizing
mathematical concepts, however my question is: WHICH mathematical
concepts? What should they look like? Which direction? I have NO
IDEA how to mathematically model consciousness and how to bridge it
to the physical world. How to do it? Give me a starting point, if
A: What starting point do you seek?
Q: (A) Okay. Point to me a paper, a book, somebody, some idea, that
will put me on the track. I have no idea at all how to go beyond the
physical world using mathematics. I can dream...
(L) Do the same
terms that describe the physical world also describe the spiritual
world, but with maybe a sort of twist?
A: Mathematics is the great unifier.
Q: (L) Are you saying that mathematics ITSELF, is the expression of
the spiritual world?
Q: (L) Well, since all is an illusion, it would seem to me that the
mathematics that describe the physical world would be, at the same
instant, describing the spiritual world - only, perhaps, a mirror
A: Illusions only fit their own realms, as needed. Why do you have
Q: (A) Well, because we have natural numbers, and we can easily
prove that there are infinitely many natural numbers.
A: But this is the desperate attempt to superimpose a linear scale
which is, by nature, really cyclical.
Q: (A) Okay, do you say we have to get rid of infinity? We should
count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0? Or something like
that? We don’t NEED infinity? No, probably not, because the question
was about consciousness... and not we are prodded to think about
infinity - everything is cyclical. Okay, just a while ago I was
asking about this plane, and a plane is infinite, contrary to a
sphere which is finite and cyclical. You said that the plane is good
and the sphere is bad. So...
Q: (A) But a plane, by itself, is infinite - that’s how we came to
infinity, because we had an infinite plane...
A: What is a circular plane?
Q: (A) What?! A disc. Sometimes we ask them questions and we get
other questions... Last question: I am in a general state of
there are so many things to learn, so many paths to follow, so many
things to be
investigated, so many theorems to prove, so many mathematical
concepts that can be developed, and so many things beyond
mathematics and physics that need to be investigated, crop circles,
for instance, that I really don’t know where to start. I don’t want
to go in a maze that goes nowhere... What to do?
A: When confronted with such a quandary, it is best to simply do,
prejudice, nor fear of error. Let the path create itself, in other
words. And, on that note, good night.
End of Session
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December 26, 1998
Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
Q: And where do you transmit through?
Q: Before Ark gets on to his questions, which will probably take a
long time, I want to ask two quick ones. Last week you told me that
I needed to lose weight to get ready for a ‘blow.’ I don’t like the
sound of that. Then you made a remark about my children’s souls
having ‘plans of their own.’ Later during the week I had a dream
about Ali setting me up to be put in jail, and she told me in the
dream that it was ‘the most potent dream of my life is to see you in
prison for what you have done to us.’ I told the dream to Jason, and
he said that Ali’s hate and vindictiveness toward me is so extreme
that she is ‘plotting’ terrible things against me. Then he also made
the remark that she or Anna would not live long, and he could just
‘feel it.’ Naturally, I became very upset about all of this taken
together. I would like to know if you can tell me just exactly what
this blow is that I am supposed to be preparing myself for?
We explained before: refer to text.
Q: Do you mean as in physiological, needing to have surgery?
A: No. Reread session, we think you have misinterpreted.
Q: Is it true that Ali has this horrible hatred and vindictiveness
Q: What is the root of this hatred?
A: Personality clash.
Q: Well, I love her very much, and it is very painful to think that
she feels that way about me.
A: But she does not know what “love” is yet.
Q: Is there hope for the situation?
Q: Should I write to her?
A: Yes. That may help but avoid the urge to “Clintonize” in the “yes
fashion. One is disarmed by a stance of humility.
Q: Okay, I guess that is the thing that has really been worrying me,
so I will save my other questions until the end.
(A) Finish your
questions first, because I always make them tired.
(L) Okay, I have
discoverd that this author, Goodrich, thinks that the island of the
grail castle was the Isle of Man. There are a huge number of the
clues you have given on this grail quest that seem to converge in
this area, including the coast of Scotland. There is a cave where
Merlin is supposedly buried, four churches, the Isle of Man, the
little islet of St. Patrick, the churches of St. Patrick and St.
Germanus, or ruins of them, standing next to each other, and the
church called “Candida Casa” in a meadow, or field, that was
dedicated to St. Augustine; there is a place along the coast called
‘Rhinn’ and the northern part of Wales was formerly called ‘Galles.’
So, it is like all of these things converge to this area, and there
consideration that King Clovis of the Franks was a contemporary of
there may have been blood connections. Am I on the right track with
these churches in this area?
A: Maybe so, but you did not finish with the previous subject!
Q: What else could I do to ease the situation where Ali is
A: It is Anna who deserves concern.
Q: Can you point me in the right direction? What can I do to help
A: Level with any who are in contact with her.
Q: In what way?
A: Regarding obvious disturbances of a mental/emotional nature!
Q: Can you get me closer than that? Her bulimia, her obvious lack of
self-esteem, her borderline personality disorder, the drug and
alcohol abuse- should I try to have her put in the hospital?
Work through others.
Q: What others? Jason?
Q: My mother?
Q: Can you help me here...
A: They need to be informed. This is a self destructive soul, at
Q: Is there anything else I can and should do for her?
A: Okay, now ask yourself, what do you know about the situation, and
influence do you have?
Q: Well, I know that she is a very sick little girl, and it is
breaking my heart, but she has rejected everything I have tried to
say and do, and she is of an age where there is really not much I
CAN do without making her completely alienated from me! I don’t have
A: But do others?
Q: That’s debatable! Anna doesn’t listen to anybody.
Q: Give me some hope here...
A: This is hope. Ignorance is hopeless.
So, I should write to Ali and try to get her to help me to watch
over Anna, to try to influence Anna?
Q: And I should have a talk with my mother and let her know in no
uncertain terms that Anna IS very sick and needs help? From my past
experiences with my mother, I almost think that she is the root of
the alienation from my children. She has spent most of her life NOT
understanding a thing about me and therefore, stabbing me in the
back at every turn.
A: Is she influencing Anna to be self-destructive?
Q: I don’t know. Her effect on me when I was young was certainly
contributory to my own self-destructive tendencies. Is she?
Q: I need to know what I can do here, what is in the realms of
honoring free will...
A: Does daughter number one know?
Q: I don’t know...
A: What do you think?
Q: Well, one of the most shocking things I have had to face is the
fact that Anna lies almost constantly and even when she does not
need to. I can’t understand this. It is tearing me apart, and no, I
don’t think she has told the truth to Ali, and, in fact, I even
think she may subconsciously be contributing to the continuance of
the alienation of Ali just so she can continue her own
self-destruction. She doesn’t WANT any of us to talk together
because then we would compare notes about her behavior!
Q: Obviously, for her sake, we need to put these issues aside. Why
is Anna so
A: Multiple reasons, much has to do with past lives.
Q: This is such an emotional issue for me that it is hard to digest
all of this and think. Can I ask about this past life or lives, or
is it relevant?
A: It is relevant if Anna were to get help from a past life
Q: Is Anna, herself, aware that she has a problem?
Q: Is there ANY willingness in her to get help? Does she want it?
Q: Is it not interference for me to do such things?
A: It is not interference to level, then state concerns and
The mistake is made when one tries to command actions.
Q: As it
stands, looking at it from your 6th density position, if I take
these steps you have outlined in a proper way, is there a
possibility of a positive outcome, meaning that my child won’t kill
Q: How good of a possibility?
A: 80 per cent.
Q: Well, that is better than 50-50.
(A) Why should we be more
responsible for our children than for other people?
A: What do you mean?
Q: (A) Why do we worry so much about our children when they are
grown; we spend so much energy on this; we lose sleep; but these are
separate souls, so should we not practice to become immune to this
worry? Why do we worry about our children?
A: Genetic/emotional/hormonal/instinctual/karmic interface is most
Q: Does it have to do with a pre-life agreement to interact in
certain ways, to do certain things?
A: Partly. Souls chose you as a vehicle for primary learning
Q: Is it part of the karma between Ali and me for her to detest her
A: She does not know what “detest” is.
Q: Well, I heard that when she got the check we gave her for
Christmas that she tore up the card and threw it away and said ‘but
I’ll keep the check.’ That was very hurtful and makes her seem so
shallow and hopeless and I doubt that she will ever get over it.
A: Shallow, eh? Yes to part one, no to part 2.
Q: You mean she WILL get over it?
A: Most likely.
Q: Well, I love her so much that this is all very difficult...
A: But she thinks sex is love. When one believes this, who needs
are viewd more as an acquaintance, i.e. friend/enemy.
Can you tell me how LONG it will take her to get over this?
Q: (A) Probably 10 to 20 years...
A: No. Ark, what about your daughter? We see some similarities
Q: You mean his daughter is shallow and thinks sex is love?
Q: (A) Well, I am not going to write a letter...
(L) Do you think I
(A) No, you have been advised to...
A: We were not suggestion Ark write letters, but he has insight. One
insight can offer advice.
Q: His advice is just ‘hands off’ and don’t give it a lot of energy
because I spend so much time being upset over all of it that I can’t
concentrate on anything else...
(A) Just wait until they are all
ready to come back and listen...
A: Good advice, except others should be made aware of Anna.
Q: So, write a letter, convey the information, and then hands off.
That is all I can do.
Q: Okay, I am done.
(A) I was trying to put together things related
to research on UFT, and the questions I have asked recently. After a
time of being quite desperate, because I could not put these things
together, I could finally see some dim light. So, I would like to
ask. But, please do not reassure me if what I think is wrong... just
tell me it is wrong, and I will look for something else. I came up
with the idea that we should model our space time on a kind of a
surface embedded in a higher dimensional flat space. This would
account for several things that you have told us. At some point you
said the following: ‘Old makes new again,’ which suggested that we
should come back to what Einstein was thinking, and then you said
‘equilateral versus hypotenuse.’ I didn’t have a clue, but then I
got an idea that it is related to different kinds of tensors with
three indices, rather than to geometrical features. Is this guess
A: Partly, but geometric figures provide a third density guide for
visualizations of field concepts.
Q: (A) Hmmm....
A: Pyramids inverted upon one another.
Q: (A) Where to put these pyramids?
A: Hexagonal representation of flat plane...
Q: (A) What is hexagonal representation?
A: What does a hexagon look like when converted to three dimensional
Q: (L) Well, a ‘flat pyramid’ is a triangle, and a triangle has
three points, and two triangles inverted becomes a sort of Star of
David, and that has six points and is a sort of hexagon...
this hexagon business... two dimensional inverted pyramids make a
Star of David. But, what if these pyramids were really tetrahedrons?
They LOOK like a hexagon in a plane, but in 3 dimensions...
are octohedrons... Octonions... hmmmm....
A: Vortices... this is what your “wormhole” would look like.
Q: (A) Now, we have a problem here, because you speak in terms of
features, geometrical features, and I would like to convert this to
A: Okay, what is the problem?
Q: (A) I want to describe gravity, and to describe gravity I must
have some geometrical quantity which describes this gravity, so my
idea is that gravitational field is described by the bending of our
space time in a higher dimensional flat space...
Q: And that this bending would describe both gravity and
Q: (A) In all this I do not see a place at all for tetrahedrons.
What do they have to do with a bent surface?
A: Maybe you do not see yet.
Q: (A) But, still I want to understand what was all this talk about
tetrahedrons. So, I thought about tetrahedrons that I have worked
with and met in my research. There were several occasions. First,
there are tetrahedrons which we need if you build a continuous
theory of completely discrete elements. Then we do the triangulation
of the surface, or we need tetrahedrons to triangulate space, so let
me call it Place One. Place Two: tetrahedrons I understood as
symbols because tetrahedrons have three edges from each vertex, so I
thought this three should represent third order differential
equations. Place Three: I use tetrahedrons for describing magnetic
monopoles, but they were not necessary, and I have no other way to
put tetrahedrons into the idea to bend geometry. If things are
fluffy, what are tetrahedrons doing there? I have no clue at all!
So, I want to ask about a possibility of describing different
densities. It came to my mind that perhaps Einstein, when you spoke
about variable physicality, that Einstein was afraid when he
understood that in his work. I thought about this and I think that
Einstein determined that the future must be determined from the past
and present, and when he found that he had a theory where the future
was open, he dismissed it and was afraid. Is this a good guess that
variable physicality, mathematically, means a theory where there is
a freedom of choosing the future when past and present are given?
Q: (A) Is it related to the fact that we should use higher order
differential equations, not second order?
A: Yes. Einstein found that not only is the future open, but also
and the past. Talk about scary!!
Q: (A) All you have said so far points to an idea by a Swiss guy
named Armand Wyler. This Wyler found a way to compute from geometry
so-called Fine Structure Constant, which is a number and can be
found experimentally. Then, of course, he was invited to Princeton
to explain how he did it, and apparently he failed to explain
himself, and he ended in an asylum for the mentally deranged. The
question is: if I follow his way of thinking, can I succeed in
deriving and understanding the nature of this Fine Structure
Q: (A) Well, if I do it, should I keep it a secret so that I won’t
end up in an asylum?
A: The problem with Wyler was with the audience, not the speaker.
Q: (A) What does that mean?
(L) I guess it means that the people he
was talking to couldn’t grasp it, not that he couldn’t explain it.
Did he really lose his mind, or was he sort of ‘helped’ to go crazy?
A: He suffered a “breakdown.”
Q: (A) Now, let’s change a little bit. BRH sent me an e-mail where
there was a discussion between Sarfatti and a Russian physicist who
was working with Sakharov by the name of Ryazanov, at Moscow
University. He says he can do derivation of quantum mechanics from
electro dynamics with two signs of time. He is speaking about
possible reversing of causality. On the other hand, he is saying
that it is the sin of physicists that they believe in the power of
mathematics. Part of what this Ryazanov is saying seems to
correspond to what I think also. Does he really have a theory which
explains quantum mechanics?
A: Yes, but he made an omission.
Q: (A) What omission?
A: Calculating the frequency constant.
Q: (A) Okay, I will try to get his paper. In looking for this
Ryazanov on the web, I have found the pages of a Polish Medical
Doctor who is making all kinds of funny experiments, including
parapsychological, being, at the same time, director of the
University Clinic. I had the idea that I should get in contact with
him. Who is he? Can I have a clue?
A: Who is he?
Q: (A) His name is Brodziak. He is in contact with Sarfatti,
Pitkannen, Deautsche, and so on. Should I become more active in
these discussions, these mailing lists?
A: Sure, but you will need to separate the “wheat from the chaff.”
Q: (A) Okay, I am done.
(L) Okay, let me see if I can get a couple
of these other questions in. I have this book called the “Curse of
Cain,” and it talks about the relationship between Monotheism and
Violence, positing that Monotheism itself is the root of violence.
She has a chapter on Covenants. She writes ‘Collective Identity,
which is a result of a covenant of Monotheism is explicitly
narrated in the Bible as an invention, a radical break with Nature.
A transcendent deity breaks into history with the demand that the
constitutes obey the law he institutes, and first and foremost among
is, of course, that they pledge allegiance to him, and him alone,
and that this
is what makes them a unified people as opposed to the ‘other,’ as in
people which leads to violence. In the Old Testament, vast numbers
people are obliterated, while in the New Testament, vast numbers are
and converted for the sake of such covenants.” She also talks about
the idea of
the ‘provisional’ nature of a covenant, and that this means that it
conditional. Believe in me and obey me or else I will destroy you.
fine and good, and the chief thing that occurs to me is that this
business in religions or whatever, constitutes a sort of
‘permission,’ if you
will, to take the ‘vengeful’ action if the agreement is broken. The
phrase for ‘he made a covenant,’ is karat berit, or literally, he
covenant. In the covenant with Abraham in genesis, animals are cut
in two and a
fire passes between them in a mysterious ritual. Then, there is the
cutting of the flesh at circumcision, and the Sinai covenant where
the laws were cut into stone. So, these covenants are apparently
what constituted Israel as a nation. The entire foundational frame
of Israel is framed by the severed pieces of animals, it seems. Why?
A: Confused principles.
Q: Book says: ‘In ancient Near Eastern rituals, the cut made to the
animal is symbolically made to the inferior who enters into the
covenant with a superior.” Is this an accurate representation?
A: Maybe for some.
Q: At the making of the Covenant at Mt. Sinai, there was a bunch of
sacrificed animals, and Moses took the blood , dividing it in half,
he cast one half on the altar. Taking the book of the covenant, he
read it to the people, and they said ‘we will observe all that
Yahweh has decreed. We will obey.’ And then Moses took the blood and
cast it on the people saying ‘this is the blood of the covenant that
Yahweh has made with you containing all these rules.’ What is this
blood of the covenant?
A: Has to do with bloodline.
Q: So this symbolized the bloodline of the Jews?
Q: What bloodline are we talking about here?
Q: Are you saying that the Jews are Aramaic/Aryan?
A: No. Jews are not bloodline categorizable, per se.
Q: When the person who was later represented as Jesus lived, was
that, as Paul described it, a New Covenant of Blood?
Q: Was any of this related to the Nordic Covenant?
A: In a parallel sense.
Q: Okay. Umm... It says then: ‘We are heirs of a long tradition in
which Monotheism is regarded as the great achievement of
Judaeo-Christian thought. Monotheism is entangled with
particularism, and with the assertion that this god, and no other,
must be worshipped. This particularism is so virulent that it
reduces all other gods to mere idols, and is so violent that it
reduces all other worshippers to abominations. The danger of a
universal Monotheism is asserting that its truth is THE truth; its
system of knowledge, THE system of knowledge; its ethics, THE
ethics; not because any other option must be rejected, but because
there simply IS NO OTHER OPTION. They presuppose a kind of
metaphysical scarcity, a kind of hoarding mentality, hoarding
belief, hoarding identity, hoarding allegience, because there is a
finite supply of whatever, it must be contained in whole or part. It
suggests limit and boundaries.’ Well, aside from reminding me of the
parable of the talents, she goes on to talk about how Monotheism is
the chief thing at the root of violence in our culture. She makes a
good case. Is this idea part of the Nordic Covenant?
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant in any sense similar to any of the things
I have read here?
A: It is a mystical thing, not related to theology in a direct
Q: How long has the Nordic Covenant been in existence?
A: 5129 years.
Q: Is the Nordic Covenant made between humans and other humans, or
between humans and higher density beings?
A: Mostly between humans and humans, but some of the other.
Q: Does this Nordic Covenant exist on the earth today in similar
format as it did at its inception?
Is this Nordic Covenant the same as you have referred to as the
Q: Would you say that the Nordic Covenant and the Quorum are in
opposition, or just different?
A: Segmented relationship.
Q: Is there any particular thing about this that I ought to ask at
the moment that I am not going to discover in the course of my
research? The mail group asked a few questions about this, so I
thought I ought to approach the subject. Is the Nordic Covenant made
between people who are blond and blue-eyed?
A: Not the central issue.
Q: What is the central issue of the Nordic Covenant?
A: Bloodline extends off the planet.
Is this Nordic Covenant a group that is in place on the planet
for the purpose of guarding or propagating a particular bloodline?
A: To guard secrets.
Q: What does this secret have to do with a bloodline?
A: You should be able to figure this one out!
Q: Are these people with this bloodline and with these secrets the
same ones involved with the genetic engineering of new bodies for
the Lizzies to occupy at the point of transition to 4th density?
Q: Are these secrets negative to our civilization or race?
A: From your perspective, maybe.
Q: Do these bloodlines have to do with Nephilim?
A: A little.
Q: What secrets are they guarding?
A: Your origins; the nature of your being.
Q: So, this Nordic Covenant is that which wishes to maintain the
darkness of our realm, the time loops, the replays, and all that
sort of thing?
A: One of the players, yes.
You also said that the Nordic Covenant was a duality, that it
could be positive or negative. So, if that is the negative side of
it, is the positive the same, or different?
A: Too complex for your current understanding.
Q: Is the ‘buried treasure’ of the Templars or Cathars, or whoever,
manuscripts from the Alexandrian library telling about the true
origin and nature of man?
A: Well if so, maybe that would explain the structure you live
Q: Society? The Universe? The EM grid? Any or all of the above? What
structure do I live under?
A: Forced choices.
Is that what is buried off the coast of Scotland, the Isle of
Man, in that region?
A: No, at least not the whole puzzle.
Q: Am I at all correct in pinning this location down, so that I
ought to work on the further project of getting some detailed maps
to get even closer? A piece is there.
Q: Is there also a piece in Rhineland proper, as in Germany or
Q: How many pieces are there? Seven? Seven Horseheads... ?
A: No more clues on that. Good night.
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January 2, 1999
Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
Q: And where do you transmit through?
Q: I want to check up on my daughter Anna. I wrote the letter to
Aletheia as you advised. I didn’t get into anything about Anna, I
just basically told her that I was a miserable human being and asked
her forgiveness for being so imperfect. There has been no response.
I also talked to Mother about Anna and explained some of it to her.
She was shocked, but she could see that her own observations ‘fit’
the picture. I also learned from her that it is very likely that
Anna stole money from her. Apparently, Anna is pretty desperate. Can
you tell me what this business of making others aware of her
problems is going to accomplish, other than making her feel penned
in and closed off from support?
A: No, the important thing is to make others aware, so as to lessen
dangers. Remember, knowledge protects, ignorance endangers.
suggested that I print out the sessions about Anna and give them to
her to read - to level with her might work. What do you think?
A: Not at this juncture.
Q: Anything further I can do? I asked Mother to talk with Aletheia
and explain the situation to her. Maybe if Aletheia is less upset
with me, she might be more inclined to listen. So, as you said, I
can only do what can be done through others.
Q: Anything further I can do? Has the situation changed in any way?
Q: Would sending her Reiki help?
(F) Well, Aletheia has prejudices, but she doesn’t have the
inability to understand what is going on or to use logic to put two
and two together.
(L) Is Anna under some kind of psychic attack or
is she attached in some way?
A: Closer to the latter, but remember, the biggest goal here is for
suffer such a shock that you would quit the work!
Q: What kind of shock?
A: You know this!
Q: Is my daughter going to die?
A: That could be a possibility, but you have made it less likely.
step may be to increase the communication.
Q: With Aletheia or Anna?
A: With those who can reach her. Make them aware of the gravity of
situation by pointing out the patterns, history, etc. Suggest you
use the approach you have already begun.
Q: Would it help if Freddie would talk to her?
A: Not likely at this juncture, as she associates him with you.
Q: Now, you know I am desperate here, because you know that, the
fact is that if something happens to one of my children, it would
A: We know that.
Q: So, we need desperation measures here. Should I see if I can send
her to Chloe for a while?
A: You cannot “send” her anywhere.
Q: Should I talk to the doctor and have her put in a hospital?
A: No. If you can persuade your oldest daughter of the reality of
situation, you will have moved mountains!
Q: Can Freddie help there?
A: Maybe, but again, she too associates him with you. A better
take would be a follow-up letter expounding upon the previously
Q: I don’t think Aletheia will listen to anything I say...
A: It can be done. If her sensibilities are stimulated by playing
if” game, for instance.
Q: What if what?
“How would you feel if...”
Q: (L) How would you write this letter, Freddie?
(F) Well, I would
for a response to the first one, and I would suggest that when you
letter you frame it by saying: ‘I know that you may not believe me,
think I am exaggerating about Anna, but this is crucially important.
I was thinking that I should point out that, since the C’s have been
right on so many occasions, that this should be taken seriously...
(F) Well, it isn’t just what they are saying, it is evidence of long
standing, even if the symptoms were not identified and acknowledged
early on... it is solid as a rock! She almost died last year from an
overdose which we NOW know was NOT just an accident. It was NOT what
she said it was. I don’t think she intended to put herself into a
coma, but it was subconsciously self-destructive. That is a
dangerous sign. If you eliminate the idea that the alcohol was
foisted on her, or that she was abducted, or that she took a sip and
didn’t know what happened after that, and go to the reality that she
deliberately was getting drunk, she guzzled down alchol very rapidly
- that is a bad sign. And, the book says that bulimic girls are
suicidal. That is what the books say.
(L) Okay, any further comment?
A: This is up to you.
Q: (A) I would like to know who is directing this scenario? The
original question was whether she was under attack...
A: 4th density STS.
Q: Is there any other blocking techniques we can employ?
A: Knowledge always leads you to all the blocking techniques you
Q: Should we do a remote spirit release, or a remote protection of
Q: Should I explain to Aletheia all the things you have said about
A: Better to simply explain the basics. Remember, she does not
believe in our
Q: So, keep you out of it and deal with the facts. Okay. I have had
a couple of dreams lately. In one we received a 22,000 dollar check
from Constellation because they wanted to buy Ark out of the
remainder of his contract. In the other, we got a LOT of money, from
some unknown source that seemed to be something like an inheritance.
Can you comment on either of these dreams?
A: There may be more money for you, but no need to speculate upon
Q: I was just concerned about this thing with Constellation. They
strike me as a bizarre bunch of people...
A: All corporations are ultimately linked to the same source, either
Q: One other question about Anna:
we had discussed it and agreed
that even if there is a difficulty, we would not offer any financial
support to Anna under the circumstances, since we do not wish to in
any way ‘reward’ her lifestyle and decisions. Is this an advisable
course of action?
A: What difficulty?
Q: Well, they have moved into a place that depends on Anna having
income, and she quit one job and can’t get another, and they are not
going to have enough money to live there....
A: Anna can get a job if she wants one. To elaborate, “jobs” are
plentiful in your locator, and Anna presents a most pleasing
Q: Should I talk to Matthew? She has started hanging around with
A: Matthew is not on your wavelength.
Q: Well, if she doesn’t do something soon, she is not going to have
the money to keep her pager running. Maybe this will be a good
thing, since you have made the remarks you did about beepers. Will
Q: Well, let me get to some of these other questions. Previously you
said that the central thing about the Nordic Covenant was that there
were bloodlines that extend off the planet. From what I understand,
all humans on the planet have bloodlines that extend off the planet.
In what sense did you mean this about the Nordic Covenant; that the
bloodlines extend off the planet?
A: Not all so recent, not all so “pure.”
Q: In the sense of recent, how recent do you mean?
A: Speculate, using your transcripts.
I am reading some books about the various members of these
families that were involved in all these strange things back in the
12th century. What I would like to know is, were all of these people
as licentious and corrupt as these books make them out to be?
Q: Well, the awful stuff that gets written about incest, sexual
abuse of young girls, and all kinds of really dreadful behavior
among these people. Henry II was actually at war against his own
sons and kept his wife in prison for years... it just makes one
ashamed to be connected to these disgusting people! But, you are
saying that this is an incorrect portrayal?
A: No, “people” are always dubious form some perspective or another.
Q: Why is there a legend that the King of the Franks could heal with
the touch of his hand?
A: So can you.
Q: As in anybody?
A: Close, if you have the knowledge...
I am inferring from what you are saying that the Franks had
knowledge of some order, passed down through the royal families, or
A: On an individual basis, it has always been thus.
Q: On a couple of occasions when you have made the remark ‘it is
not germaine,’ using that peculiar spelling, did you mean that it
was not only NOT German, but also NOT French?
Q: So, we are back to something else. I once asked about the Third
Man Theme and that perhaps you meant that the imagery was that of
the Triple Goddess relating to the Isle of Man... and you said ‘if
viewed through sheets of rain.’ So, in this book that I am reading,
it talks about the fact that the Celts of Gaul worshipped the Rain
as the manifestation of the Goddess, and the Celts of Scotland
worshipped the Sun... the male God. Does this relate in any way to
this remark you made about sheets of rain?
A: In an offhand way.
Q: Anything further you can tell me in terms of a clue about ‘sheets
A: Not for now, when you get there, you will find the chalice.
Q: Where and WHAT chalice?
A: Wait and see!
Q: Okay, now, enough of that. Onto this alien book. It seems to be
almost a point by point refutation of some of the things you have
told us. At the same time, it is very revealing. This guy says that
‘alien scientists have developed an array of human programs or life
orientations which they use to create human hybrids. I was
programmed to serve others, and most of my life has been devoted to
service as a public official, educator, and psychic counselor. My
life exemplifies one category of alien programming.’ Is it a fact
that the Reptoid aliens are making a bunch of hybrids to ‘serve
Q: Another thing he talks about is the underground laboratory, and
he has a terrible time trying to speak about it because of the pains
in his head. He finally gets to the point where he admits that part
of the human ‘engineering’ project, part of what they are doing with
the embryos they create by harvesting human eggs and sperm, is that
they use them for ‘nourishment.’ Naturally, he is aghast at this
admission from his own memory. And somehow he just glosses over it.
Is this true? That some human embryos are being created to provide
nourishment for aliens?
A: In a sense.
Q: He never comes back to this specifically, except to vaguely state
that the vats and body parts and all that which are reported by many
eye-witnesses, are merely ‘symbolic’ imagery to teach us how
unimportant the body is... can you comment?
A: Not necessary.
Q: He further says that the Reptoid aliens have been increasing
intelligence for these many thousands of years with the intention of
and leaving us on our own. The Reptoids are going to pull out soon,
they just came to help us evolve, and now we are at the stage we can
take charge of things ourselves... Have the Reptoids been increasing
human intelligence? Is this part of their agenda?
A: Perhaps, but the agenda is not as stated.
Q: Okay, he says ‘I wonder if the current relationship between
humans and aliens may be analogous to the abolition of slavery in
America. Freedom arises when people accept others rather than being
afraid of them or trying to control them. We may be learning to
accept a technologically advanced interdimensional race, and the
aliens may be trying to transform us into compatible neighbors.
Perhaps humans and aliens will become more alike as time passes and
our two dimensions will become increasingly integrated. They are now
allowing us to discover this information. I believe the aliens are
getting ready to reveal who they are, but first they are helping us
to discover who we are. Aliens may be programming human hybrids like
myself to learn through self-discovery and self-acceptance, and we
are likely to learn more about them as we discover ourselves.
Important information about them may be archived in our minds or
implanted in our bodies. To retrieve the information, we must learn
to express the interdimensional aspects of our being. In other
words, we must integrate our human and interdimensional selves and
learn to function in both worlds. I believe this is how we will
eventually establish two-way communication with our alien creators,
and learn to coexist with them.’ Blah-blah-blah. Then he says that
he was created from the genetic material, and soul essences of three
separate individuals. Comments please.
A: No need.
Q: Well, yeah. All of these things have already been covered, which
is why it was so interesting to see such different explanations for
the same observations. He says that his ‘image is being used to tell
people: wake up human hybrids! It’s time to accept your
interdimensional identity. It’s time to discover your Reptilian
heritage and fulfill your mission!’ YUCK! Then he talks about the
sexual aspect of abduction. He wondered why it occurs so frequently.
A: This is not germaine.
Q: And there is that funny word again! But, he thinks there is a
link between the frequency of human sexuality and Reptilian
intelligence... he thinks that ‘this could explain why people so
often perceive aliens and their messengers in sexual roles. So many
abductees report having sexual experiences, in fact sexuality is a
common theme of all alien abduction experiences. Could sexual
stimulation be part of the methodology of alien intelligence?’ Could
A: And the “playboy channel” originates on Zeta Reticuli!
Q: Okay, I am done.
(A) My first question is: I was thinking about
what could be the optimal situation for us, for me to work and to
proceed, and I decided that the best situation is to have a lot of
money, so that we are independent. So, I started to think about how
to make a lot of money, and it came to me that the best thing is to
get the Nobel Prize next year. So, I started to think about how to
get a Nobel Prize, and the best possibility is through computing
this Fine Structure Constant. This is in my reach, and it can be
done in one year, and it is safe to get a Nobel Prize for this. Am I
A: Your goals are reachable, but the Nobel Prize is politically
Q: (L) Yes, but it gives sufficient influence that one can do what
one likes, and it certainly is not the money that you get as the
prize that is so significant, as it is the offers you get after you
have it that are significant. I don’t think that, in and of itself,
it is such a huge amount of dough. It is a chunk of change, but not
to set one up for life unless one is very frugal and careful.
One bar of soap every nine months.
(L) It will buy more than that!
(F) I am just saying that if you have to be that frugal... to be set
(A) I am confused. If it is politically charged, this
means it is not the optimal way of optimizing the situation.
Optimal way is nonexistent. But, investing one’s earnings helps.
Q: (L) Investing in what?
A: Wide array of options.
Q: (L) Well, when we get some earnings to invest, we will discuss
there is something you want to say now.
A: Money shall not be a problem, as we have stated previously. We
that her situation would improve...
Q: (L) I suppose that the ‘...’ refers to the psychomantium?
A: No, it refers to other things, too.
(A) Next question: I have become active on the internet and came
in contact with a fellow by the name of Paul Butnick, who proposes
some kind of collaboration. So, I am supposed to help him and he
says that we shall apply for a grant from NSF to work on faster than
light communication. Is this a good idea? Or...
A: Pursue with caution and patience.
Q: (A) Is that a way of saying to go with this idea?
Q: (L) I would say, caution and patience means don’t move too fast.
A: But not “do not move.”
Q: (A) Are we on the right track with our public activities? Are we
not making mistakes in this discussion with these scientology types?
A: Be careful about being over-eager to share the information you
this communication too widely.
Q: (L) We are being careful. Where this communication is concerned,
we have only shared some philosophical things. I don’t think we have
A: It is you, my dear, that gives us some concern. This will not be
to “fame and fortune,” unless and until it is balanced.
(A) Which communication are we not supposed to share,
A: Yes, but we did not say: do not share. We mean to be careful.
the grass lurketh.
Q: (BRH) I believe I found the right place at Polomar. Is it?
Q: (BRH) What is the best day and time to go to Palomar?
A: The day is not important, but the hour is best after sunset
Q: (BRH) Does that mean any time at night or specifically at sunset
A: Any time at night.
Q: (BRH) Would it be best if I crawled under the fence and had a
look at the little lakes there?
A: That is okay, but be careful of your footing!
Q: (BRH) Do you have any other suggestions? I am open to all.
A: Why not bring binoculars?
Q: (L) A camera. too.
(BRH) Is there anything else you
want to say on that subject before we bring it to a close?
Ask specific questions, please.
Q: (BRH) Am I talking to a lawyer this time?
A: A lawyer has a meter which is always running. We do not. Did you
Q: (BRH) I think so. Did I?
A: You will know, others have.
Q: (BRH) What others?
A: No, no, not yet.
Q: (BRH) So, you are not going to tell me, is that it?
A: Yes, that is it.
Q: [Tape end, question lost. Notes indicate that it was something
about Jack Parsons.]
Q: (BRH) What is the significance of the rock? A Well, maybe it has
something to do with energy vectors... Now Dev, you must also know
that Palomar is also connected to the activities of those who have
controlled your realm for what you would perceive to be thousands of
years, as you measure time. But while this is obviously important
for a variety of reasons, it is good enough for you to know of this
to be protected.
Q: (BRH) Well, that was on my mind.
(L) Mine, too.
(BRH) Is there
anything else I need to know to be protected?
A: Just know that this locator is oriented the way that it is for a
Q: (BRH) Does the military or the intelligence network know of the
significance of that place or the rock?
A: Well, now have we not opened a can of wormes here? First of all,
“military intelligence network,” and the “government” are not
existent in the way that they are presented.
Q: (BRH) How should I respond to this statement about the military?
(L) Well, there is a bunch of stuff in other sessions, so I would
try to read it all before asking more questions in that regard.
Who else knows about this place? And what was the significance of
the enormous gate that looked as though it was made to allow huge
vehicles to pass?
A: Oh now we have hit upon something here, have we not? The gate has
curve. Hmmm... would it not be nice to know where that leads?
How can a gate have a sloping curve?
(BRH) Just past the gate, the
road curves and slopes downward.
(L) Well, if you go looking, don’t
step on any landmines!
(BRH) Are you joking?
(F) Semi. But, beware
of electronic sensors. Remember, ‘watch your footing.’ When your
eyes finally get opened to all that is going on all around you,
right under your nose, you will be amazed. But, when you finally
discover that you are nothing more than a marionette hanging from
some strings, you want to kick the other marionettes and say ‘look
at those strings!’ And all they ever want to do is dance and think
they are doing the dancing.
(BRH) Is there anything that can cause
bodily injury there - land mines or whatever?
A: Lack of caution can cause bodily injury. But then again, 3rd
ultimately dangerous to one’s body!
Q: (F) As long as you are aware and you use caution, you’ll be okay.
Who else is aware of the significance of this place?
Q: (F) Well, it is amazing. I just never thought of Palomar as
anything other than an observatory. God knows what is going on
underground there - or anywhere, for that matter.
(BRH) Have I ever
A: That will not be answered at this juncture, as the information
would not be
useful, until the questioner has discovered one more piece to the
puzzle relating to “Berkeley.”
Q: (BRH) Regarding the alleged implant in my back, I am considering
having it removed. Is this a wise choice.
Q: (BRH) Is it a good idea to possibly bring Dr. Alexander in on
A: Only when it has been determined what benefit would be served by
concerned. Good night.
End of Session
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