September 14, 1996
Freddie, Laura, Terry and Jan
Q: (L) Hello, and who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from tonight?
Q: (L) We have several questions we’d like to get into tonight, and
the first one has to do with Terry’s health, which is a little
(T) Flaky, to say the least!
(L) I was going to select the
A: Wheat germ.
Q: (L) What else? Is there anything else? Is this something he needs
to add to his diet?
Q: (L) What else?
A: Boil, no baking or frying. Too low on the potassium and calcium
causes mental and emotional reactions, which spur on physical
declines... Be sure to up the zinc intake.
Q: (L) Any more, any further on this?
A: Advice about sugar is faulty!
Q: (L) OK, what is the best avenue for the sugar?
(J) Oh, so he’s
not low sugar?
A: Do not eliminate, regulate with natural intake... suggest cubes
or lightheadedness appears.
Q: (L) So, Terry is not hypoglycemic?
A: Stop. “Hypoglycemia” is a “buzz word,” nothing more.
Q: (L) So, they just named you hypoglycemic because they couldn’t
think of anything else!
(L) Is there anything further for Terry,
that will help get him balanced and feeling better pretty quick?
A: Be less sedentary!!!! Exercise builds energy reserve and speeds
Q: (T) I’m going to start my walking again, because when I worked at
Home Shopping, I had an hour for lunch, and I didn’t want it,
because I had no place to go, and nothing to do, I walked all around
that complex for an hour, I was doing two miles a night.
about the sleeping...
(L) That’s all part of it...
(T) It’s all
thrown off because I’m trying to treat something I don’t have...
A: Sleep cycle will resolve itself.
Q: (L) And are these things going to help the hemorrhoid problem?
A: Of course! When one balances, one balances.
Q: (T) Good, I can get back in balance. I’m trying to treat
something I don’t have. Which is just messing everything up even
Q: (T) Thank you very much. I appreciate all that information.
have a question. What is all that Nutrasweet doing to him?
Get rid of that! It is poison!!!
Q: (T) No more Crystal Lite? It didn’t taste bad...
(L) Back to the
(T) No, no more RC. That’s too heavy. I’ll go back to 7up or
(J) 7up and water.
(L) OK, while we’re on health
questions, is my swimming adequate thus far?
A: So far so good. But... no slacking! We know when you slack,
Laura, and you
are only defeating your own purposes!
Q: (L) Well I have not missed a single night, I want you to know.
And I have swam... until... yes, I have swam myself silly. It’s just
as you said, I swim myself silly, so cut me some slack here! I’m not
(T) Where’d those missing laps go?
A: The past is also the present and the future, my dear!
Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to accelerate the weight loss?
A: Yes. Increase the exercise.
Q: (L) God, I’m already swimming two hours!
(J) What else can Laura
(L) I can’t walk, it hurts my hip too much....
A: Decrease the food intake.
Q: (L) I’m already living on two hard-boiled eggs and five stalks of
celery a day! How much lower can I go?
A: You asked, did you not?? You did not ask if it was wise.
Q: Well, would it be wise to decrease it any more?
Q: (L) Well, at the rate I’m going...
(J) How about quality as
opposed to quantity?
(L) Yes. If I continue going at the rate I’m
going, will I accomplish my intention?
A: It depends.
Q: (L) It depends on what?
A: When Arkady arrives.
Q: (L) All right. You’re making me sweat, here!
A: Good, that aids weight loss.
Q: (T) Sweating’s good for you! Is there a place you can go for
(L) I can get in the shower and do it...
A: How about big green salads with leafy green vegetables as opposed
Q: (L) Ok, we can handle that...
Increases metabolic rate with no fat.
Q: (L) Ok, so you said it depends on when Ark will arrive, does that
mean you have a clue as to when that will be?
Q: (L) Well, are you going to tell me when that will be?
A: (T) Of course they know when he’s going to get here!
(L) God, I
I’ve got this huge weight pushing on me.
(T) No, it’s not a weight.
You’re thinking of it as a weight...
(F) Think of it as a goal!
Yes, think of it as something you want...
(F) That also increases
(T) Think of it positively, instead of negatively.
(Fred) People who are dieting think of it as dreadful...
(L) I’m not
thinking of it that way, I’m just feeling like I’m under a lot of
(T) No, you’re only under the pressure you’re putting
yourself under, and this is something that you want, so it shouldn’t
be pressure, it should be...
(F) It should be incentive, turn it
(T) When I’m talking about walking, I’m not talking about
going out and walking all over the neighborhood.
(L) I walk in the
(T) Walk in the pool, swim in the pool, walk around the pool,
and then when you get out, and you get dried off and you get
changed, go out and walk around the outside of the pool a couple of
times. Increase it, every couple of days. Do like, five walks around
the pool for two days, and then make it six. And then make it seven,
and increase it until you can walk around the pool comfortably. Then
start walking farther and farther...
(J) As the weight comes off,
it’ll be easier to walk.
(T) As it is another exercise method, it’ll
also help your back. But you can’t do it all at once. Our friend
Larry up in Tallahassee, he doesn’t have the pain in his shoulder,
he doesn’t have the pain in his back, the hip is ok again.
(L) If I
do the leafy green vegetables, continue the swimming and do the
walking, whatever, will... I mean, you guys obviously have sent this
person into my life, so you must have a clue as to how things are
going to turn out, right? You do have a clue, don’t you? Are you
going to tell me?
Q: (L) Do I have time....?
A: If you are dedicated, all will be well.
Q: (L) Is that a promise?
A: It is not necessary for us to promise anything... you are at the
Q: (L) And if I manage to... what I’m trying to... Does anybody know
what I’m trying ask?
(F) You’re trying to ask if your project will
be completed before Ark arrives.
(T) And they’re trying to tell you
it will if you want it to be. You asked if that was a promise, and
they said they don’t have to promise anything. They’re telling you,
if you want it, then that’s what you’ll have.
And if you don’t want it, it won’t work. But, you’ve got to want it,
got to look at it as something you want, something you desire, not
as an evil thing, not in a negative light, but in a positive light.
Because this is something that you want.
(F) Not as a burden, but as
a joyous opportunity.
(T) This is what you’re all working toward.
(L) I’m just worried I don’t have enough time.
(T) Time has nothing
to do with it.
(L) Oh, all right...
(T) There is no such thing as
time... You just keep doing it, and it’ll... If you keep doing it,
and you keep wanting it, and you keep doing it, it will do it.
(T) They’re not telling you, they’re not promising
anything, they’re just telling you, this is it, we’ll do it, if you
want it. But, if you don’t want it badly enough, it won’t happen.
(L) OK, switch gears. Can we switch gears now?
(L) Ark would like to put this
book together with an opening chapter from you guys. Is this
something we can get into, or is this something we should wait to
get into, or if that’s how you want it done at all? Can you give us
some advice on this; we’ve already got a publisher who is very
interested in the whole thing, and he thinks that we ought to open
the whole story as a cosmic drama.
A: You must meet with Arkady before you can effectively convey any
messages in a
Q: (J) In other words, he has to be here before that process...
To do the book... is that correct?
(J) ... he has to be here for the
A: Not to “do the book,” just to do the project correctly. You see,
communications on the “Internet,” “have served their purpose well,”
but the next chapter cannot begin until the communication levels are
at the next level.
Q: (T) In other words, he’s got to be here.
You’ve done what you’re supposed to do... you found...
met him, and you’ve built the foundation of a relationship on the
Internet. Now it has to go to the personal level.
A: Remember, Arkady is not yet part of the conduit!!!
Q: (L) So, what are we supposed to do for the next few months? Just
continue chit-chatting, continue building...
A: What else can you do?
Q: (L) Well, that’s about it, can you think of something else?
A: You have communicated extensively with him, but, others have not,
have we, not directly, so to say.
Q: (L) Is there something I can do to rectify it, I mean, is there
something I ought to do? Is there...
(T) Just keep on doing!
Give me a hint!
(T) You’re doing it!
(L) Ok, the other night, while
I was swimming, I had the thought come into my mind, as I was
swimming, that number one, not only am I doing exercise, but I am
generating a force field or energy vortex of some type while I’m
doing the swimming. Is this correct?
Q: (L) Now, you said something about a hundred laps a day. Getting
up to a hundred laps is a little difficult. I also had the thought
that a hundred days of swimming might be a clue. Is this correct?
Q: (J) They didn’t say no!
(T) There you go! This is for you to
(L) Well, I know, but it just came to me while I was
swimming around that it’s not so much that it... I mean, getting to
the hundred laps is a good plan, but...
(T) Well, isn’t the swimming
in a circle the same as the spinning?
(L) Yes, I mean , it’s...
It would be, wouldn’t it?
(T) Which none of us have been doing, so,
the spinning is important, the circular motion is important to the
whole thought process...
(L) Well, I’ve been going around in
circles, man, like you wouldn’t believe, I’m doing up to doing like
40 or 50 laps a day.
(J) That’s good!
A: Slacker!!! Teehee!
Q: (J) 50 laps a day is great! What are you talking about?
Guys!!!!! I started out, I could only swim around twice without
(J) Laura, Laura, they’re teasing you!
(T) Just think, the
swimming, starting the walking, will help the swimming!
right, I am motivated, guys, I’m telling you! When you guys go home,
I’m going to be out in the pool! No doubt about it!
A: Mirth aids birth.
Q: (T) Well, I’m here to tell you, until Larry got off his duff and
thinking about feeling better, and did something about it...
just have to go out and do it.
(T) ...he didn’t feel better.
have to go out every day, and just start swimming around...
killed him, it killed him for three months, trying to walk.
actually doing darned good, considering ...
(T) You are, if you’re
up to 50 laps! And you only just started, what, two weeks ago?
can do 22 without stopping! I mean, 50 is like the nightly count.
(T) You only started two weeks ago! Getting up to a hundred is going
to be hard? It only took you two weeks to get up to 50!
(T) Getting up to a hundred...
(T) ...is going
to be easy! You’ve made the hard part!
(L) My other question is, is
the creating of this vortex of energy somehow activating metabolism
Q: (L) I mean, is it like a cosmic liposuction?
A: It’s a hell of a lot better than the endless train of
“therapists” you have
[The telephone rings, and the session is stopped temporarily. The
phone call is from A and Pk who want advice from the Cassiopaeans.]
Q: (L) OK, Pk wants to know about him and A. Get your paper and
pencil ready now, Pk!!!
A: What does he want to know?
Q: (L) Obviously, he wants to know if he and A are going to get
married? That’s obviously the question.
A: Let him ask!
Q: (L) (Consults on the phone briefly) OK, he want to know, are he
and A meant for each other? That’s his question.
Q: (L) Ha ha, I told you! You hate it when that happens, don’t you!
A: Get to the point, Pk.
Q: (L) OK, Pk get to the point. What’s the point, what do you want
(Consults on the phone again) Ok, Pk wants to know if A is his
A: As we have tried to explain before, there is no “one” soulmate,
Q: (L) Well, then, what he wants to know is... now you say that Ark
and I were each halves of a single soul. So, he wants to know, is
that the same situation?
Q: (L) They’re not going to tell you.
A: Ask Pk how does she feel about him?
(L) (Converses with him on phone) All right, Pk they said to ask
how does she feel about you? Do you know? Do you have any further
questions?(Converses with him on phone) He wants to know if he’s
going to make a lot of money?
Q: (L) A is going to make a lot of money? Is that what you meant?
A: What we meant is she holds the key to this whole process.
Q: (L) So, in other words, you’ve got to listen to her, Pk!
always that way, Pk!
(L) Anything further you want to tell Pk?
A: Only if he asks.
Q: (L) All right guys, you warned me, I knew I had it coming!
Q: (L) Is it going to work out?
A: Wait and see!
Q: (L) Ok, I’m giving up the floor!
(T) They moved slowly on that
(L) OK, so, basically, we’re kind of on hold here, on a lot
of things, waiting until Ark gets here.
(T) Just keep working right
along, and he’ll just drop right in.
Q: (J) I have a question. Those two ladies that we met last night,
how do they factor into this process?
(L) The Gulf Breeze Six
ladies? They were mentioned before, in the transcripts.
Q: (T) Let’s just let it play out, like we have been, and see what
Is there any significance to the ML incident, where he came and sat
by us at the Gulfbreeze conference, and then came and sat by Terry
and Jan at the Tampa conference?
(L) Can you tell us what the significance of this was?
A: Psychic wave “undertow”.
Q: (L) So, he’s not aware of anything, he just senses it
psychically? Is that correct?
A: It is pulling him in, lo may he resist.
Q: (T) Yes, that’s right. He was standing in the aisle, looking for
a seat, and Andrew and Jan went in first, and sat down. He was
standing there, and he came up behind them, and when he came ....(
tape turned off, portion lost) .... to the next city!.
(L) Is there
anything to this Independence Day movie, that is valid or special to
any of us, other than being a good special effects movie?
Too vague for a pre-ending question.
Q: (L) Do you have anything to say to us before we shut down for the
A: Ask about ID4 in the next session. Goodbye.
End of Session
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September 21, 1996
Freddie, Laura, Jan And Terry
[Note: During the entire session, the sound of frogs croaking in the
distance can be heard periodically]
Q: (Laura) Hello. And who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
Q: (L) All right, last week, when we shut down for the night we had
asked a question about the movie ID4, Independence Day, and we were
told to ask further questions about this, so that gives us a clue
that there might be something significant there. Does anybody
remember what the question was that I asked?
(T) Is there any
significance to the ID4 movie?
Q: (L) What was the primary intention of the makers of this movie?
The primary message that they attempted to convey?
A: Infuse thinking patterns with [planchette swirled a few times
Q: (L) They intended to infuse thinking patterns with concept of
aliens... was there any particular slant on aliens, per se, that was
seen as desirable in the making of this movie?
Q: (L) Slant, in other words, did they wish to present them
inaccurately to confuse people, to present them as something to be
feared and fought against, or to make them appear so completely
erroneous, so that when actual aliens do appear, that they will not
be perceived as negative?
Q: (L) Infuse. Just the concept, the concept of aliens in general.
A: Part of a larger project.
Q: (L) And what is this project?
A: Called “Project Awaken.”
Q: (L) And who is behind, or in charge of, this project?
Q: (L) Who are the primary group, groups or individuals? I’m sure
going to give us individuals, but just the grouping.
A: Thor’s Pantheum.
Q: (L) And what is Thor’s Pantheum?
A: Subselect trainees for transfer of enlightenment frequency
Q: (L) What is enlightenment frequency graduation?
Q: (L) Enlightenment frequency graduation... so, subselect
A: Self explanatory.
Q: (L) Well, is this group STS or STO?
Q: (L) OK...
(T) Are they working at cross purposes?
Q: (T) They’re working together? Bipartisan?
Q: (J) Are they aware of each other? Working on this?
Q: (J) Are they screwing each other up?
(L) No, that’s going in the
A: There is more to all of this than you could dream.
Q: (T) There’s more to all of this...were you referring to...
Who are they? Thor’s Pantheum. And they’re subselect
trainees...That’s the group behind this movie; OK...
A: An army of Aryan psychic projectors.
Q: (T) Well, that explains a lot more than Thor’s Pantheum of
subselect trainees! An army of psychic projectors.
(L) And what do
A: Themselves... Right in to one’s head.
Q: (T) Into one’s head... this is better than ‘Must See TV!’ (L)
Project right into one’s head... is anybody subject to this
Q: (L) And, when they project themselves right into someone’s head,
what does that someone perceive?
Q: (L) Inspiration to what, or to do what?
Q: (L) Yes? To do what, to do something?
Q: (L) To do something, and to understand or perceive something, is
Q: (J) To believe something?
(L) Yes. So, how many are in this army?
A: 1.6 million.
Q: (L) When they’re doing this projecting into someone’s head, where
are they projecting from?
A: Mostly subterranean.
Q: (L) Subterranean, so these are the people of the tunnels, the
underground bases and all that sort of thing. Are they 3rd or 4th
Q: (T) Let me back up to a question here. If they can do all this
projecting on their own, what was the point of the movie?
No, you misunderstand... This is an intense activity, directed
towards influencing the high level creative forces.
(T) Projected against? Because this movie, if you’ve been
following the reviews and the people talking about it, this movie
has had more repeat business than any movie in years and years and
years and years. People have seen it ten and twenty times!
there something subliminal in the movie? That opened something?
That’s a good question!
Q: (L) And was this subliminal activity with the movie designed to
create an opening for this further...
A: Not for you, but for others.
Q: (L) Why? Do you mean me, personally, or us as a group?
the movie didn’t affect me.
Q: (L) What made us immune?
A: You already have the knowledge.
Q: (T) The movie wasn’t meant for us; we already know. The movie was
meant for all of those who don’t understand.
A: Say hello to Gene Roddenberry.
Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry present?
Q: (L) In other words, say hello to him because he was doing that
sort of thing a long time ago?
Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry one of these people from Thor’s
Q: (L) Why did you bring up Gene Roddenberry?
(J) Because he was
doing it in Star Trek?
Q: (T) He was doing a whole different thing with Star Trek...
Well, lets not get too far off track, hang on, hang on...
It’s not the exact “Slant,” it’s “the concept, stupid.”
Q: (T) Well ,they don’t have to get insulting here!
A: “Its the economy, stupid.”
(J) We knew that!!
(T) I was just teasing. Mirth!! Mirth!
Hold everything. When you say influencing high level creative
forces, do you mean as in gathering, what would you call it, gravity
Q: (L) What are these high level creative forces that are needing to
be influenced, or desirable of being influenced?
A: Those in the creative arts.
Q: (L) So in other words, I see, this group is using their
projecting ability to influence those in the creative arts to do
creative things that will therefore influence the people on the
planet. Is that it?
Q: (L) And, these individuals are in the underground tunnels, and
you say that they are both STS and STO.
A: We did not specify “tunnels,” you did.
Q: (T) They said... how did they put that? Subterranean...
(T) ... Underground. In other words,
underground, as in resistance fighters type underground, underground
as in ...
Q: (T) Not fighters, but the idea that they are part of the
(L) Subterranean as in literally under the
Q: (L) OK, but not tunnels, then what?
A: We did not say “no tunnels” either.
(L) Are these individuals living... I know we said the tunnels...
A: The point is: what happens when you assume?
Q: (L) We won’t assume. Are there any specific things about this
movie other than the general import of opening to the idea of
Q: (L) So there’s no specific thing that we can pin down in this
movie, and say that this might be an accurate representation of
anything? It was just entertainment for that purpose?
A: Enough about the movie, already!
Q: (T) But they were the ones who brought it up!
(L) Well, yes, but
maybe they want us to get on to the subject of this ‘Thor’s
(T) Well, I want to make sure that we’re not
(T) So, we’re looking at some Aryan psychic
projectors who are trying to stimulate people in a positive way, a
la Gene Roddenberry...
(L) Now, that’s an assumption. Can we say
that they are stimulating people in a positive way?
Q: (J) Can we say that they are stimulating people in a negative
Q: (L) So, there’s probably a little of both. And you say that we
are immune to it because we already have knowledge. Now, when you
say we have knowledge, do you mean just knowledge in particular
about aliens and alien realities and alien potentials and so forth?
Q: (L) Is there something more on this subject of these Aryan
psychic projectors that we need to know or investigate?
Arkadiusz being tracked now.
Q: (L) By whom?
Q: (L) And what do they plan on doing?
Q: (L) Is there anything... Why did you t ell me that?
(T) To tell
A: Because it is time you talked with him more about aliens. He is
enough informed !!
Q: (L) Well, I sent him the book ‘Grand Illusions,’ I sent him the
Bramley book, and I sent him a Jacques Vallee book. He’s presently
in the process of reading through these three books. What else do I
need to say to him? He’s read the transcripts, he read them in a
week the whole way through.
A: And how much did he comment specifically about aliens.
Q: (L) Not a whole lot. Obviously there’s something else you wish
for me to convey to him. Since I am going to be talking to him on
the phone tomorrow...
A: The seriousness of the situation... the reality of it... this is
not fun and
Q: (L) What specific thing can I tell him that he could do or...
How can he protect himself? Is there any specific knowledge...
But he knows these things!
A: He has been told, but the awareness is not as sharp as it should
be. Ask him
where his skepticism lies. All these over the road journeys now have
Q: (L) Well, isn’t that true for all of us sitting here?
A: More so for him!
Q: (L) Why more so for him?
A: Because of his position and his knowledge of advanced physics!
Q: (L) Will awareness and knowledge...
The reality must “hit home.”
Q: (L) Anything further?
A: Much more, but you must ask.
Q: (L) Has he been abducted before?
Q: (L) He’s never been abducted?
Q: (L) Is there some plan to abduct him at the present time?
A: It does not work that way.
Q: (L) How does it work?
A: Too complex.
Q: (L) Is there some attempt at the present time to modify his
A: Attempt is not right idea.
Q: (L) What is the right idea? Now, wait a minute, stop everything!
End of Session
[The session was abruptly stopped by Laura, who was upset by the
line being taken. This was partly because she did not recognize the
C’s reference to the George Bush quote “It's the economy, stupid.”
She thought that the C’s were attacking Terry and then being
negative about Ark.]
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September 27,28 1996
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Have you been listening to our conversation about when Ark
A: You have not asked for ID.
(L) Okay, sorry. Who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L) Do you have any comment on when and if Ark will arrive?
Q: (L) He is concerned about being able to find a permanent job
here. Is this going to be a problem?
A: Not if you use your talents, as we told you to!
Q: (L) Is there something I am missing that I ought to be doing?
A: You “ought” to be exerting more energy toward trawling and
less toward other things.
Q: (L) Trawling and communicating with whom?
A: Uncovering, researching, job prospects/openings.
Q: (L) Via the internet I should go and...
A: And written material and “media scanning,” and library, etc... We
you that this communication has reached its maximum extent.
Q: (L) So, you are telling us that we have to do some stuff on our
A: You, Laura, you!!!
Q: (L) Can you give me a couple of hints as to what I am looking
A: You are not thinking.
Q: (L) Alright. I will think about it. I am not happy with the fact
that I look 44 years old!
A: Vague as can be! How about a new do?
Q: (L) You mean my hair?
Q: (L) I want to ask about this terrible ordeal we were going
through the past day or two. It seemed that there were clues
pointing to it being connected to what happened to me when I was 22
as well as to another lifetime. Is it related?
A: In a complex cyclical way.
Q: (L) What was the story about this kid named Noah who showed up
here, and was 22 years old and suicidal...
Q: (L) What was accomplished, if anything, by going through this?
Q: (L) Was it also a process of releasing stored negative energy?
Q: (L) Nothing else except learning?
Q: (L) I am wondering if it is possible that his traveling and our
communications from and to various places reflects connections to
A: Do not get carried away.
(L) I am just wondering because of all the strange things that
A: Everything is a synchronous event.
Q: (L) Did Ark and I have a past life together in Florence?
Q: (L) What do you mean?
Q: (L) Density what? The question was: did we have a past life as I
saw it in Florence?
A: Density. Lead you by the hand we do not do.
Q: (L) Is there a connection at another density?
Q: (L) Look what?
Q: (L) When you say this communication has reached its maximum
extent, do you mean it was designed and put together just to bring
information, then bring Ark into the picture to benefit by it and do
a particular work?
A: The communication we mean is the one between you and him.
Q: (L) Does that mean we should stop it now? Just break it off?
A: You need to spend more time with “Enterprise Florida.”
Information is readily
available at your fingertips. Look ‘em up! I.E. Less lovey dovey
with Arky warky and more with jobby wobby, get it?!?
(L) Very cute, guys! Another thing I have thought about is
selling the house to buy another...
A: Wrong move!
Q: (L) Okay. I dropped it just now! Won’t even think about it!
A: Think all you want, just don’t do! You arrived at this locator
Q: (L) I am curious about something... Is Ark in a relationship that
seems so similar to the one I was in, and is his dragging on all
these years for the same reasons mine did?
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: Everything divides.
Q: (L) I don’t understand.
A: He has tried to get free, so far no luck.
Q: (L) Well, will he have luck on this? Without causing a lot of
A: If creativity prevails, he will succeed.
Q: (L) I am sure that she knows something. Is she aware of how
unhappy he is?
A: Has been for many years.
(L) How can she reconcile making him suffer?
A: She craves the association with “authority.” One could call it
Kennedy Onassis syndrome.
Q: (L) You mean she is just there for what she can wring out of him?
A: Do you think a factory worker would do when she has a physicist?
Q: (L) Well, that means she has just been using him all these years?
A: You said it, we didn’t.
Q: (L) Oh! That’s terrible! Last week you said that something needs
to ‘hit home’ with Ark. Was it what has already happened between us?
A: Other. He needs to understand the reality of trans- density,
interdimensional, interstellar and planetary attack and contact for
both STS and STO! One half of him does not yet believe!
(L) Is something going to happen?
Q: (L) Is it going to be upsetting to him?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) So, he will be able to handle it.
Q: (L) Will it happen in Wroclaw, or at his residence?
A: Wait and see.
Q: (L) Is he married to someone who is there to keep him unaware, to
monitor, or to drain his energy?
A: Yes. All.
(L) Is she controlled by aliens?
A: Partly, but that is nothing unusual.
Q: (L) Well, that is not good, especially if one does not believe. I
certainly did not like the experiences that convinced me.
Worry not. Listen and be open. Good Night.
Q: (L) Good Night.
End of Session
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October 1, 1996
Freddie, Laura, A
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
Q: (L) A_ has wanted to sit in with us and is here tonight. Is that
Q: (L) And I suppose she has a few questions.
Q: (A) There isn’t anything in particular that I want to ask.
Q: (L) One thing that I know has been bothering her is that she is
having trouble concentrating to the point that she cannot read. What
is the problem?
A: Her mind is on other things.
Q: (L) And, what is that.
A: Ask her.
Q: (L) Well, as we go along, she will think of them. Now, something
has happened: Ark has asked for divorce and apparently it was not a
pleasant outcome, to say the least. From what he has said, I am
thinking that she is going to become very vindictive within the next
few days. And, what concerns me is that she is going to try to
discover who I am by going into his computer.
A: Already has tried.
Q: (L) And what was the result?
A: Nothing, she did not know how to get into proper file. There are
She will try again until no longer able. Also snoops through printed
But, not proficient in English.
Q: (L) Thank God for small favors. I have the feeling that there is
something about this situation... that something very negative is
going to happen. The reality of other density controls will ‘hit
home’ in a very unpleasant way.
Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to warn him?
Q: (L) And I have no idea what this feeling relates to. Looking at
the charts, it seems that whatever she does will be this month,
probably in the next few days, because she is building steam. Anger
and rage... I don’t think he really has any idea who she is, the
same way I didn’t know the person I was married to... it was all my
own illusion. Is this correct?
A: It is not “who she is,” it is what works through her by her own
Q: (L) So, she is a channel of attack?
A: Two more to appear at university in Wroclaw.
Q: (L) Any clues that I can give him?
A: One is subordinate, one is authoritative. Also, possibility of
to undermine his position at university with implications of
infidelity and adultery... both are seen as more serious breaches in
Poland than here and elsewhere when it comes to one of high standing
in a university level capacity.
Q: (L) Well, I just have the feeling
that she is really wanting to rip him to pieces. I can actually feel
it emanating across the ocean.
A: We have detailed for you. May actually hasten things, rather than
Q: (L) Is there any more you have to say on this subject?
A: Up to you. Warn, as all is not as anticipated in such detail.
Q: (L) I need to warn him?
A: UFOs monitoring.
Q: (L) Monitoring him?
A: And the situation. Also, at a human level, “the walls now have
Q: (L) Okay, A_ is very worried about the present situation with J_.
What can we do in this situation?
A: Vague. Have A_ ask, please!!
Q: (A) I don’t know what to ask.
A: A__ is holding back, we cannot answer.
Q: (L) You have to ask.
(A) When are Gma and J_ going to move out
and will it help things?
A: Not definite. You cannot solve your problems by trying to avoid
Q: (A) I am not trying to avoid any problems. What do you mean?
A: Removing subjects does not resolve them.
Q: (L) What are the main subjects that need to be resolved in her
A: Interplay and communication and understanding.
Q: (L) Anything else that can help?
A: Only if she asks.
Q: (A) Why do I get depressed?
A: Stress causes chemical changes.
Q: (A) What are my main sources of stress?
A: Inability to see other points of view.
(A) Whose points of view?
(A) I try to see everybody’s point of view.
(L) From your own
point of view.
(A) No, I try to see what everybody is thinking and
feeling, to the best of my ability.
(A) I don’t understand. Yes, I do.
(L) Can you help?
A: No help is desired.
Q: (L) Would you think that there is a possiblity that you are NOT
seeing the other points of view.
(A) Sure. It’s possible, but I try.
Is there any way to improve this?
Q: (A) About what?
(L) I guess just start talking.
A: Specifically, communicate with those that bother you! Resistance
Q: (A) Resisting what? You are so confusing!
Q: (L) Anything else?
Only if desired.
Q: (L) Is LM’s injury serious and will it leave permanent damage?
A: All injuries do.
Q: (L) Of a major nature?
Q: (L) Is he going to die from this as he thinks?
Q: (L) What caused this accident?
A: Too complex as to root cause, but direct cause was “passing out.”
Q: (L) Okay. Tom G passed away, and I would like to know what his
state is and could we communicate with him?
A: Sleeping to adjust to the reality of afterlife in 5th density.
Q: (L) What was the physiological reason for his passing?
A: Electrical short circuit.
Q: (L) Did he suffer at all?
A: No. Did not believe in “hereafter.” Are you aware of this?
Q: (L) No, I wasn’t.
A: Will awaken, but of course, there is no “time” there.
Q: (L) Is there anything I can say or do for Chloe to help her
A: Will recover surprisingly quickly.
Q: (L) Is it likely that she will move back to Florida?
A: Next year.
Q: (L) I would really like to do something to make my baby feel
A: Up to A_.
Q: (L) Anything further for any of us?
A: No, and Good Night.
End of Session
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October 5, 1996
Freddie, Laura, Terry, TM, M, V
Q: (L) Hello
Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L) Does anybody want to start with some questions? Do we have an
open forum tonight, seeing as there are no questions?
A: You always have an open forum.
Q: (L) Well, seeing as how we have no specific questions, I will ask
this question. I was talking with Roger Santilli, and he has
expressed his opinion that the potential opportunities for doing
research in the United States are extremely limited. I would like to
know if that’s neccessarily...
(L) Good! I’m glad it’s wrong! If it is wrong, can you tell us
precisely in what way it is wrong, and how we can look at it to gain
a better perspective.
A: There are no limits, just controls... The knowledge gives
one all the necessary tools to overcome the controls. Do not attempt
to formulate words as you write, my dear. Just “Go with the flow”
Q: (L) Well, I’m feeling pretty darn warm, the energy is higher than
I’ve seen it in a long time...
(T) Energetic little being, isn’t
(V) I’m having a hard time keeping up...
(L) I know, it’s fast.
Just hang in there, sweetie.
(T) That’s what we’re trying to do!
Why are we having...
A: No meta. The.
Q: (L) No ‘meta’, ‘the controls.’ (V) Oh, I see, I had it wrong...
We’ve got some real good energy here. I’d like
to ask ...
A: I see you, you see me.
Q: (V) What does that mean?
A: What it says.
Q: (L) The energy is really good. I like it. OK, guys, we like the
energy tonight. Tell us why we have such good energy tonight.
Q: (L) And what is there about Tom?
A: Not often here.
Q: (L) Anything else about it? No. All right, Marcie took a
particular type of Reiki initiation or attunement today, and I’d
like to know, what was the... she had an event occur during the
I would like to know what this event was. What this condition was
that she experienced.
A: She should be careful not to “spread her self too thin.”
Q: (L) And what does that mean?
A: One does not need to cram learning, “steady as she goes.”
Q: (V) They’re punctually correct, aren’t they?
(L) Yes, they are!
So, is that in a sense a caution?
(L) Can you describe what it was that was taking place with her?
Or define it?
A: Soul bilocation.
Q: (L) So, it was not exactly a state, as the Sufis describe?
Q: (L) And where did she bilocate to?
A: Not easily explainable.
Q: (L) Was it to another density or dimension? Or parallel univers
or spiritual domain?
(T) Norfolk Naval Station? [Laughter]
Destination of bilocation!
(L) Was this a beneficial event for her?
A: No. She has been ripping open the fabric too much.
Q: (V) Do you know what that means?
(TM) The fabric of this dimension?
(L) Is T correct? The fabric of this dimension?
A: Close. Each soul has its own patterning, which is held in
place by the three bodies of existence [planchette swirls a few
times] ... “thought center, spirit center and physical center,”
there are specific methodologies for adjusting these, and travelling
into or out of other planes of existence. When one does not properly
utilize these, one tears the fabric of their trilateral continuum
when they seek to travel. This can be very problematic, and may lead
to the soul being unable to reconnect with the body, thus causing
the physical center to perish!!!
Q: (L) The man who was giving the
attunements, was he aware of what was happening, or what he was
A: Aware only of unusual sensates.
(L) He did this? You let him touch you?
(L) Oh, Jesus!
(M) Sensations, that’s what he said. He was aware of it, he just
didn’t know what it was.
(T) He felt it, but he had no idea what was
(M) He just felt that it was something to do with the
attunement. I guess, I mean, I don’t know!
(L) Did it have anytrhing
to do with the attunement?
A: No. It had to do with previous experiments.
Q: (L) Why did she see like a past life review?
A: You described it well.
Q: (L) In other words, when I said that when she separated from her
body, she was able to access the past life review, just as if you
were in the process of dying.
(M) Well, experiments by who?
Q: (L) So, what was, what happened with this interaction that caused
this to trigger right there and then? At that moment? What was the
A: Spirit center stimulus.
Q: (L) And what was the stimulus? Was this stimulus...
A: The “initiation.”
Q: (L) The initiation stimulated the spirit center.
(M) So, what
would they have me do?
(L) Well, they aren’t going to tell you that!
(L) You have to make your own mind...
(M) What’s the proper
way to go through these.. If I’m tearing my fabric, how do I not
tear my fabric?
(L) Slow down?
A: By ceasing until it is properly healed.
Q: (L) You’ve got to be healed.
(M) Healed of what?
(T) Healed at
the rips and tears?
(L) Well, maybe more than that...
Q: (L) All right, healed at the rips and tears. Approximately how
long would that take?
(T) Until it’s done!
(L) Oh, stop it!
Q: (M) Can that beam, can that portal take care of it...
(V) Can you
suggest how the rips might be healed? Is there...
(L) Wait a minute,
wait a minute...
A: It is a natural process.
Q: (L) M want to know, can the portal that she has in her house take
care of helping to heal this...
Q: (T) The portal you have in your house?
(M) I’ve got it in my
aura, we’ve seen it on film.
(L) Maybe that’s part of the tear?
(TM) Look at the location of it...
(M) It sure is huge,
and it sure is...
Q: (L) No, it’s not part of the tear.
(T) Does everybody’s house
have a portal in it?
Q: (L) She’s got it in the photographs. Amazing. You haven’t seen
these photographs. These photographs will knock you out of the
(T) I’m still waiting to see the photograph of the board.
I sent it to Ark.
(T) Awwww, I’m never going to see the photograph
of the board!!!
(L) No, no, no! Cherie has a copy of it. She’s going
to make us an enlargement.
(M) So, what am I supposed to do with
this, can the portal assist in any way, this thing in the aura, will
it do me any good, I mean, what’s it for, anyway?...
A: It can assist you in becoming possessed.
Q: (M) Well, that’s just wonderful!!! How did it get there? ™
Somebody did something bad there?
(M) The top of my head? ™ Now,
wait a minute, it’s in your aura?
(M) Yes, it’s on the top of my
head, it comes right down. ™ Ohhh!
A: No it is not a part of you.
Q: (M) OK, so it just kind of likes to hang out in my aura! Loves
photogaphing my aura. It loves to be there, we don’t know what it
(T) Maybe it jumps in your aura because it’s photogenic!
Can it be resolved with spirit release?
(L) No. Any personal advice
for her at this point?
A: Colsolidate classes into three way study groupings.
Q: (L) What is a three way study group?
Combined study of three subjects.
Q: (L) All right, combine the study of three subjects, instead of
studying them separately. So, what subjects are you teaching?
teach healing, I teach the rays of initiation, and I teach auras.
(L) Well I guess they are saying to teach all three of them
together! Have them all assemble at the same time, instead of
(M) The only one I don’t do, that’s really combined, I
teach about healing and auras, but the other one, the one about rays
of initiations, that is a separate class. It doesn’t fit in!
Well, see if you can work a way to do it, like, an hour on this
subject, and then we’ll go on to this subject. Like a two-class
school. And now we go to this, and do it all in one fell swoop, and
that way, you’ve got about two hours. All right, anything else for
(T) How about asking where this portal came from?
(L) Yes, what
was the generative source? The one in her house.
A: More than one.
Q: (L) OK, there’s more than one generative source. So, it’s a
combination of factors. Is it part of the historical site? The
Q: (L) Is it part of the metaphysical activities taking part in the
Q: (L) Is it part M herself? And her own mental states?
A: Other occupants. More than her.
Q: (M) Do they mean live ones or dead ones?
Q: (M) That’s what I thought.
(V) How can it be removed?
would be the best technique for her stopping activity and allowing
herself to heal, and getting herself on track so that she doesn’t
get any real... Jesus, can you imagine, if this kind of happened
again, and you just checked out ?And couldn’t get back?
Changes in lifestyle.
Q: (L) Changes in lifestyle... and what specifically, can you list
Q: (M) Oh, man!
(L) You’ve got to know this yourself! You know them
(M) Can you ask them...
(L) Just think about this, dear.
(TM) The more you deny it, the worse it gets.
A: We would like to have the opportunity to discuss other issues at
besides personal issues, as this drains the channel energy. But, we
will accept limited questions fromthose in particular need.
Q: (L) I want to finish for her. Can I ask just one short, maybe a
couple added to it; quick ones for M?
A: One, please.
Q: (L) The question I have is, she is in a situation where she is
somewhat obfuscated in her directions. It seems that many sorts of
sources seek to...
A: Obuscation is illusion.
(L) I know, but what I’m trying to get at for my question is yes,
she’s got all these illusions that she gets thrown at her. But, it
seems to me that a person who gets this much attack...
A: Finances would take care of themselves, miracle.
Q: (TM) I have a question. What is happening in my car...
is just a yes or no question!
(L) Well, ok.
(TM) Have I been abducted
in my car, like Laura suggested?
(TM) Thank you, that’s all I wanted to know.
(L) Well you should
have asked it in a different way! I thought you were going to ask a
mechanical question! [Laughter] It’s been done! I did it!!!!
Remember, we asked about (Name deleted)’s truck, and he wanted to
argue about it, and the next day, found out it was absolutely
correct! He argued with them!!! They diagnosed the problem with his
truck, and he argued with them; ‘Well they don’t know anything about
mechanics!’ He stomped around and everything. The next day, the guy
from across the street comes over and looks at it and says exactly
the same thing they did! That’s all it needed, just a little rubber
thing stuck over a hole. [Laughter] Did he believe? No! It didn’t
matter to him! OK, I do have one question here. I talked to (Name
deleted) the other day, and I told her what we got the other night,
about (Name deleted) being sleeping, and she wanted to say that she
just couldn’t accept that, because so many other people have had
visitations and visions and dreams and so forth of (Name deleted)
wandering around and doing all these good deeds in the other world.
A: Not true.
Q: (L) It’s not true. Then why are all these other people saying
that they are seeing (Name deleted) or having experiences with him,
either in dreams or visual, or whatever, and what are these people
seeing and experiencing?
A: In short, inflated opinions of ability manifest false reality.
Q: (L) So, these various people who think they’re psychic have such
inflated opinions of their own abilities that they are all calling
her up and saying ‘I saw him, he spoke to me... he came to me in a
dream...’ (M) Who is (Name deleted) ?
(L) My girlfriend’s husband
(V) Is he still sleeping?
A: Emotions directing events.
Q: (T) They are also just telling her what she wants to hear.
Q: (L) So, I think I should just not say anything
further about it.
I was trying to say it in a more comforting way, but she, I guess,
what is it...
A: She is under emotional “cloud”
Q: (L) OK, we have all given M emotional support. We all love her,
and we all see her as an important person who is being attacked from
all sides. We are all here, at all times, to help you when you need
it. So, therefore, you have advice, you have been promised a
miracle, it may have something to do with a phone conversation I had
the other day...
(M) Yes, that was weird!
(L) Now, carry on!
there something you wanted to speak on this evening? You said there
were other issues that you wanted to talk about.
A: Wait a minute... V_, my dear, your retreat will be tremendously
positive!!! Lots of fun, too.
Q: (V) Yahoo! Without getting personal, and going into explanations,
was the experience that I had after I fell asleep last night past
Q: (V) Can you tell me what it was without going into detail.
A: Subconcious mind wandering.
Q: (V) Jesus!
(L) Well, in her
subconscious mind wanderings, was she
picking up something in the atmosphere; some thought, or some fear?
(V) I can’t believe that that would come from me!
A: No. Cycling.
Q: (L) Can you give her anything more on this? She was very
distressed about it... You can pick it up out of my mind if you
want. Her mind, whoever’s mind.
Q: (L) Is it anything to be concerned about as a prophetic thing?
A: No. Why would you say prophecy?
Q: (L) Well, she was concerned that it was something that could
(V) No, I wasn’t concerned in that way... I’m concerned,
I’m disgusted by it, and I would be much easier for me to handle if
it was some kind of past life memory than if it were something that
comes from my psyche. Because it disgusts me.
A: Disgust manifested in dream state wanderings always result from
Q: (L) Ohhh, I see! Was that something that was in the air and
Repressed as in my relationship with the person.
Q: (L) Do you want to drop that? [Energy burst from the board] A
couple of weeks ago you gave us a warning about Ark travelling on
his over the road trips and possible alien monitoring. Is his
intention to be fully aware and concious and not travel at night
going to help with this particular situation? This warning?
Q: (L) He is now of the opinion that his awareness of the state of
the other person as being possibly desirous of undermining his
position at the University, that his awareness will forestall or
circumvent this. How high a percentage is there of this happening,
even with his awareness?
A: ? Awareness is not balanced yet.
Q: (L) So, his awareness is not complete yet. He is not fully aware
of how deep and dark and dewy these aliens can be when they start
working through people? Is that it?
A: Goin thru the motions, babe.
Q: (L) What? ‘Goin thru the motions, babe?’ What does that mean?
Does that mean anything to anybody?
A: What Ark is doing, but, it is the first step to learning.
Q: (L) What does this mean? I don’t quite get it. I’m being dense
(T) We told him that this is happening, so yes, he’s going
thru the motions for you, that he’s understanding this...
got to go through it completely before he understands...
(T) ... but
it’s got to really happen for it to...
(L) Is that it? Is Terry on
to it here, that it’s got to really happen...
Q: (V) Has he been hauled out, like MM and I’ve been hauled out?
Who the hell knows?
A: No. Not completely.
(V) MM and I are just the lucky ones!
(T) Such luck!
right! That was laced with sarcasm!! I do hope you heard that!
No, I didn’t catch that at all, haha!
(L) In terms of this
interaction with RS, is there anything that would be fruitful to
follow in terms of trying to assist him in his work, and in his...
A: Let events unfold.
Q: (L) It sounds like something is going to unfold.
(T) Just let him
do what he’s going to do.
(L) I was talking about our involvement...
(T) There’s nothing we have to do ...
(L) Well, ok, right....
A: So were we.
Q: (V) What? What does that mean?
(L) Ok, they also were talking
involvement with him...
(V) This is like taking notes in classes,
you know! This is like practice! This will get me ready for the
(T) Do we have to spell it out for you? [Extended
laughter!] (V) My little finger flies sometimes, Terry, I want to
A: Mind programming.
Q: (L) What about mind programming?
(T) Is that like Fox and NBC?
You know, must see TV!
(V) This is mirth, guys!
(T) OK, what about mind programming?
(V) In reference
A: We thought we would just throw that onto the table.
Q: (L) Well, they certainly did! I guess that’s what they want us to
(T) Mind programming! As in programming of one’s mind.
A: TM received some most recently.
Q: (L) And who did he receive the mind programming from?
Q: (T) What form did it take?
Q: (V) (To TM) Are you aware of this?
(T) Not negative or positive,
but what form was it presented to him as?
Q: (T) Was he awake or asleep at the time?
Q: (T) No, no. Before the hypnotics, was he awake?
Q: (L) Was this a pre-hypnotic trigger?
Q: (L) Was it hypnosis at a distance?
Q: (T) How was it conveyed to him?
A: Lights, fires, chants.
Q: (V) Were you aware of this?
(L) How long has it been since you’ve
hung out with that bunch?
(TM) I haven’t seen any of them since way
(L) Way back when, what is that, a couple of years?
(L) Well, then that’s still recently...
(T) Lights, what and chants?
(V) (reading) ‘lights, fires and chants.’
(T) OK, thanks.
Q: (T) Was he with them...
(L) Oh, yes, he was...
Q: (L) This is what we were...
(T) I just wanted to make sure that
this was not a long-distance thing... that they did it from a
(TM) Yes, that they still didn’t have their hooks into
(L) Good question, is this programming still active?
Q: (L) Close, though to what?
Q: (T) ... that this wasn’t done from a distance, that he wasn’t
with them physically, like this, that he was somewhere nearby when
they did this...
(L) Oh, he was close...
(T) He was close to them?
(T) But he wasn’t...
(T) OK, then, they weren’t responding to what I was saying.
So they were doing lights, fires and chants, and he was not there?
A: Response was to “Hooks”
Q: (L) Are some of the choices he’s been making in his life in the
last two years the results of this programming?
Q: (L) I suppose we better let him read the Greenbaum papers;
everybody here has read them, right?
(M) That’s where all the
accidents (?) are coming from...
(T) (To TM) You haven’t read the
Greenbaum papers yet?
(TM) I don’t think so!
It’s very enlightening, I’ll have you know!
(T) There’s a person
who’s thrilled about this one!!!
(To Laura) Print them out and give
them to him.
(TM) I want to know; did I get married as a result of this
Q: (L) Did I get married as a result of some similar programming?
Q: (L) Did M?
Q: (V) Did I?
Q: (T) Did Terry?
Q: (T) Did Freddie?
Q: (L) Freddie never got married!
(T) Well, I was just making sure
that everybody felt like they were in on all this!
Greenbaum program, was it due to my father?
Q: (M) Thought so!
(L) Remember, his father was military, too!
(T) While I’m tossing it...
(TM) Was it done to my
A: You were “Greenbaumed.”
Q: (T) Was Jan’s friend Margaret Greenbaumed?
Q: (T) She’s got all the signs...
(L) Was TM Greenbaumed?
Q: (V) What about Violette?
Q: (L) What about Freddie?
Q: (L) Laura?
Q: (L) Terry?
Q: (T) Jan?
Q: (M) So, I’m the only one here that’s been Greenbaumed?
(TM) So, you got mental programming, but it wasn’t Greenbaum?
know that I had mental ptogramming...
(TM) They said maybe...
Laura had more advanced work done on her.
Q: (V) That opens up a whole new can of worms.
(L) And what do you
mean by that?
A: Not now.
Q: (T) Maybe they want to go on with...
(L) No, they’ve told me
before; they’re not going to tell me.
(M) Were you Greenbaumed?
No. Who did this work, can I have that? Can I know that?
Q: (L) Is there any possibility, to some extent, that I have
overcome this influence at the the present time?
A: No. Was partial, then aborted, leaving fragments of trigger
programs that have been in remission.
Q: (L) Why was it aborted?
A: Because STO forces intervened.
Q: (L) And when was this?
A: Mid “fifties.”
Q: (L) So it was when I was three or four years old.
(T) I think we
should go back to what we were talking about with TM, because they
brought it up. ™ Am I still receiving instructions from the
programming? Am I still receiving programming from them?
Buried for future triggers.
Q: (L) Is there anything he can do to deactivate this programming?
A: Would take powerful hypnotic work. Beware of stresses of a most
Q: (L) Do you mean sexual actions, activities might be triggers or
connected to this?
Q: (T) Work related. All different kinds. Anything could trigger
(L) They said personal, most personal, though...
yes, (V) Wouldn’t it seem like family...
(T) Work and jobs are very
(L) No. Most personal is physical, you know,
(T) Your job is financial, financial
(L) Well, that’s right.
(V) Is your family going to cause
(TM) Stress, and I have not been able to hold down a job
(V) Do you live with your family?
(TM) Not any more!
Any further clues for him?
(T) What was it that they... what was
given to TM? What was he told to do, or what was the mind control
(L) What were the instructions?
Q: (T) Is is something TM will be able to discover? Does he have
enough information to work on?
A: Not by himself.
Q: (L) Is his wife and the baby part of the hook?
Q: ™ Is the hook attached to the physical, emotionally, spiritual,
Q: (TM) Is there a physical location where it’s attached in all three,
in the same place?
A: You were particularly vulnerable at the time remember, this
has an uncanny ability to get to those who have parental influences
with a troubled past.
[Phone call interrupted end of transmission, call was from TM’s
Q: (L) Is she Greenbaumed?
Q: (TM) Where did she receive Greenbaum programming?
(L) Don’t even ask
that until you’ve read the Greenbaum papers.
(TM) Never mind,
(L) You can get all of that just by reading them.
she just coerced to make this phone call?
(L) She was triggered to.
(TM) Oh, I know, her father was in the Navy...
(L) ‘Why are we not
A: Yes. And Violette’s too, but fortunately in too low level a
Q: (L) Does the Greembaum influence, or interaction last
indefinitely throughout a person’s life, if something isn’t done to
terminate or halt it?
Q: (L) Mind programming... Where are we going to go with this, guys?
(L) Oh, ok, go. What were the programs? The main programs?
A: Must not say.
Q: (L) M wants to know how extensive the Greenbauming was in her
case. Was it extensive?
A: Yes and your husband, too!
Q: (M) That’s just wonderful! More pleasant things this evening!
I’ve been sitting in your position, where I’ve gotten a bunch of bad
news one night, and I know how you feel!
(F) It’s not really bad
news, though, because it’s good to know...
(V) It protects you to
have the knowledge. But, it’s tough to hear.
(TM) Well, the next time
you’re doing something, and you don’t know why you’re doing it, it
seems completely stupid, there’s a thought...
(L) Ask yourself
every time, why am I doing what I’m doing? Is it really me doing it,
or am I being...
(M) Is there anything to cure it? Can anything be
done? Now we know with him, it’s hypnosis.
(T) It is for everybody,
(L) I’m afraid, yes. Reread the Greenbaum.
Awareness is step number one.
Q: (TM) Will this Greenbauming be passed on to my son?
Q: (T) It’s a process; it’s not hereditary.
(L) I’m going to ask
this. Don’t get crazy when I ask it. Is this his son?
Q: (TM) I’m not sure I understand, now.
(L) And, since you, I mean, I
had a sense of that ummm... is this an alien manipulated pregnancy?
Q: (L) What is the scoop here in terms of that answer.
A: No scoop.
Q: (TM) Did she sleep with another man?
Q: (TM) Around the time she became pregnant?
Q: (TM) How about before we got married?
Q: (V) I’m not understanding for a second here...
(L) If it’s not
his son, then who’s son is it?
(V) And, if she wasn’t sleeping with
someone else around the time she got pregnant, then...
A: Not what we meant.
Q: (L) What did you mean?
A: Son not a programming trigger.
Q: (L) ...but when you said it was not his son...
A: Son not trigger.
Q: (L) That’s what you meant, so you didn’t... his son was not a
(V) So that’s his flesh and blood son...
that, it is a son.
(TM) OK, so it’s my flesh and blood son, but not a
Q: (T) (TM’s wife) is the trigger; one of them.
(L) Well, TM finds
himself, we all, I mean, jeez! What do we do about these difficult
situations that we plant ourselves in the middle of, due to
programming? Then we have to extricate ourselves, at great cost and
pain? Having done it already myself, I know how much pain...
No need to extricate, if necessary work is done, in some cases.
Q: (L) If two people who are married to each other are Greenbaumed,
is it possible that they could be programmed to kill each other?
A: Maybe, but not always.
Q: (TM) Or any two people who have had the programming?
A: The programming is mainly intended to produce erratic behavior,
purpose of “spooking” the population so that they will welcome, and
even demand, a totalitarian government.
Q: (L) So, the programming is designed to, in other words, when the
people are just being erratic...
A: Think of the persons who have inexplicably entered various public
domains, and shot large numbers of people... Now, you have “met”
some of these Greenbaum subjects...
Q: (L) Let me say this. If this is what we’re saying, well, what I’m
saying is, that ... Is this Greenbaum programming something that
goes along the line of what I’ve just described a part; a part, I
don’t think that’s all of it...
A: In part.
(L) Is there also the implanted triggers to activate at a certain
point in future time, to create a mass chaos, in the public domain?
A: Better to discover that one on your own.
Q: (L) Ok, that’s another one that’s dangerous to know right now...
(V) Was the person I met last week, (Name deleted), was he
Greenbaumed? Has he been Greenbaumed.
(L) He was bizzare, wasn’t he?
A: Now, some history... as you know, the CIA and NSA and other
agencies are the
children of Nazi Gestpo... the SS, which was experiment influenced
by Antareans who were practicing for the eventual reintroduction of
the nephalim on to 3rd and or 4th density earth. And the contact
with the “Antareans” was initiated by the Thule Society, which
groomed its dupe subject, Adolph Hitler to be the all time mind
programmed figurehead. Now, in modern times, you have seen, but so
far, on a lesser scale: Oswald, Ruby, Demorenschildt, Sirhan Sirhan,
James Earl Ray, Arthur Bremer, Farakahan, Menendez, Bundy, Ramirez,
Q: (L) Is there any particular individual who is
currently being programmed to take a more prominent position in
terms of this...
A: Later... you must know that Oswald was programmed to be the
“patsy.” So that
he would say many contradictory things. Demorenschildt was both a
programmed. Ruby was hypnoticaly programmed to shoot Oswald. With an
prompt, that being the sound of a car horn.
Q: (L) The question has been brought up, is there some way or means
that one can distinguish or discern a victim of Greenbaum or other
mind programming by some clues?
A: Not until it is too late.
Q: (L) Was SV Greenbaumed?
Q: (T) Yes, well, we kind of figured that already...
(L) Yes, but I
was just checking here...
(T) Is JW Greenbaumed?
Q: (T) And he carries guns around! Although, I’m not sure he knows
how to get the cartridges in!
(L) What about MF?
Q: (L) SH?
Q: (L) Anybody else got any likely suspects?
A: Now you have touched on a whole other subject, my friend. At
least his wife
is blissfully ignorant.
Q: (L) What have we stumbled upon with EB? Is he a programmer?
Q: (T) I think I’d prefer not to!
(L) Is there anything further
you’d like to add to this subject for our edification before we shut
down for the night?
(V) I’d like to know if any Presidents have been
(L) Well, we know some probably have!
Q: (T) How many have we had now? Clinton is number what President?
A: Remember, the “Greenbaum method” is one of many in existence.
Q: (L) OK, further...
(T) What did it say?
(V) You’ve got people
getting hauled out and abducted, I mean...
(L) All kinds of stuff
(M) Is (Name deleted) set to go off soon?
(L) No, they
told you, awareness is the first step in undoing it! Focus on that!
You’re aware! How many people are?
A: It is a veritable potpourri.
Q: (L) Any further for tonight?
A: There’s much much much more to discuss about all of this, but if
you wish to
stop now, that is your choice, and we will continue later. But, it
would be helpful if you begin that session on subjects not of a
Q: (L) Can we plan to pick up on this subject next
Q: (L) Would to be better if all of those present now, be present
for the continuation?
Q: (L) Well then, unless there is something else of significant
importance to say before we shut down for the night...
A: Tom’s wife will object strenuously.
Q: (L) Anything else?
Q: (L) Anything else? For anyone else? No? I’m ready to say goodbye.
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October 12, 1996
Freddie, Laura, T M., TA., V
(Tape missing, reconstructed from notes)
Q: And who do we have with us this evening?
Q: And where do you transmit from?
Q: In an earlier session you mentioned that we ought to discuss the
matter of mind control...
A: Programming is the word you need, not “control.”
Q: Tom has had some very strange events happening to him and he
would like to know if he has been Greenbaumed?
A: Tom has not been “Greenbaumed,” but mind programmed by those who
have ties to
a wiccan organization.
Q: How does one tell if they have been programmed?
A: Pay attention to the signs.
Q: (T) What are the effects or intentions of this programming?
A: Difficulty keeping up with the demands and pressures of life as
before his involvement.
Q: (T) Any specific signs?
A: We gave you one, now for 2: wife “acting up.” Also, parental
have already begun.
Q: How does one overcome or cancel this programming?
A: The same as always: Knowledge protects.
Q: In what ways will knowledge help to cancel programming?
A: In ways directly affecting Tom.
Q: I don’t understand. How can knowledge help to cancel programming?
A: So that the awareness can be the foundation for being able to
situations, and possibly rectify some of them.
Q: (L) Okay, change of subject: On a couple of occasions you
mentioned a group called the Antareans. Who were these people or
A: Antareans were the name given by 4th density groups in contact
with the Thule
Society on third density Earth, before and during World War One.
Q: What are they called now?
A: There is no one currently labeling themselves as “Antareans,” in
Q: So, they are no longer here?
A: No, not this particular group.
Q: Okay, I would like to know why the individual who says he is my
cousin, suddenly appeared in my life when I first attended a MUFON
meeting after the UFO sighting over my pool? I mean, this was a LOT
synchronous. Was he sent to spy on me?
A: Not exactly, more like this: was sent to interest you in a
that would ultimately lead you down a path to 4th density STS.
Q: Well, you have said that MF and JW were BOTH involved, yet they seem
to hate each other, or say they do. Was this just an attack from
another direction, in case the JW attack did not work?
A: It was also an effort to separate you from any influences which
dissuade you from your intended interest in JW.
Q: (L) Well, was I mind programmed? You said once that I was not
Greenbaumed, but that something else was done. What was this?
A: The work that was attempted was more intense, but it was aborted
turned out that your frequency resonance vibration was not proper
for that particular type of “experimental” programming.
Does this mean that there was something about my vibrations that
caused what they were trying to do to result in positive things?
A: Possibly, in an off-hand way.
Q: You also said that STO intervened and stopped this... does this
mean that there is some reason to protect me?
A: Okay... learning is an exploration followed by the affirmation of
A: No comment from “the peanut gallery,” please.
A: Not “left,” Tom, “leaves.”
A: One day, you will know this.
Closer but not close.
A: There is more than one issue here.
A: Part of the equation.
A: Through Susan.
A: This is complex, and does not “work” in the way you envision.
A: You are making positive moves.
A: Both. Careful there!
With what is available.
A: Your pool.
A: You are doing just fine.
Is this what you expect?
A: Not necessary.
A: Yes, but you are not showing faith or patience.
A: Ask Anna.
A: Then what do you think?
A: Not all.
A: And he is correct!
Never you mind.
A: Must say this.
A: Because his situation is complex and precarious.
A: He needs you for “fine tuning.”
A: More through your given, and learned, talents.
A: Not for this session. Good Night.
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November 23, 1996
Freddie, Terry, Jan, Alice, Laura, Ark via compute4
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) And who do we have...
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
Q: (L) We have quite a variety of questions this evening. The first
is regarding the difficulties with UFL and the financial
arrangements. Will this work out so that he can be here the 1st of
February, as planned?
A: Maybe a slight delay.
Q: (L) And the personal finances?
A: You will see.
Q: (L) You said before that her actions would accelerate the legal
A: In progress.
Q: (L) It looks now as though the legal affair will not be over
before he comes here... this distresses me.
A: These are things you must wait to see.
Q: (L) Okay, is there anything you would suggest in regard to any of
A: Slow down for strength of mind.
Q: (L) Okay, switch gears. Can you comment on the strange nature of
the events of the past two weeks...
A: Learning is fun.
Q: (L) Was PZ abducted in my house as he claims.
A: Probe further and you will know.
Q: (L) Okay, talk to P. Why is his mother going off into psychotic
A: Not psychosis, neurosis.
Q: (L) Well, then I guess we are supposed to be figuring it out as
Q: (T) Is Fearon Hicks dead? [UFO researcher of our acquaintance who
went out to investigate Area 51 about 6 months previous to this
Q: (L) Did he commit suicide as we were told?
Q: (L) Was he murdered?
Q: (T) Was it an accident?
Q: (L) Well, how does one get hung by the neck if it is not an
accident or suicide or murder?
A: He was not hung.
Q: (T) That’s what I figured. But he IS dead?
Q: (J) How did he die?
Q: (T) Well, I can believe that. He popped every pill he could find.
He was in terrible health.
(T) What is wrong with my computer?
A: Offset files. Tangled web, being fed by incorrect steps to
correct. Need to
back up all data, then clean drive. Shortcuts won’t do it, and it is
not as tedious as you think. But not doing it will be! [This
suggestion was followed, and worked.]
Q: (T) Thank you...
A: You are welcome... Minor Cassiopaean “glitch,” sorry!
Q: (T) About Flight 800. Pierre Salinger claims that the info
floating around on the internet is accurate. He says that the Navy
downed the flight.
A: Close. Pierre Salinger is an impeccable journalist and not one to
Q: (T) Very true. And that is why I am amazed that the rest of the
journalism community is attacking him.
A: Why should you be amazed? They are “bought and paid for.”
Q: (T) What did happen to flight 800?
This was the result of an experiment gone awry. So was KAL “007”
Q: (L) What was the nature of the experiment?
A: Testing of secret impulse guidance system using civilian airliner
arbitrary “bounce” guidance target. Instead, it became the “homing”
target, and a different aircraft became the bouncer. This was
because the programmers did not anticipate the lower than expected
altitude of the 747. Warning: this must stay in this room for the
present!!!!!!!!!! The facts will eventually be discussed by others.
At that time, the danger is lifted. [At this point, it has been
discussed in the exact same terms as described here in a reputable,
national magazine.] Now, about KAL 007... that one is not dangerous
to know. The plane was deliberately instructed to fly off course in
order to trigger the Soviet’s Pacific air defense system, to “see
what they were made of” in that area. The plane was lost, but the
experiment worked. They did not expect them to shoot down a civilian
airliner. Now, all moving targets create electronic impulses. These
can be “read” by the proper extremely high tech equipment. Older
radar guided systems are subject to malfunctions in weather
conditions that are severe, as one example. Also, the impulse system
is an offshoot of the electromagnetic pulse experiments being
carried out at Montauk, Brookings and elsewhere as part of the HAARP
project! In connection with Pentagon missile tests, HAARP has many
interesting tie-ins, not the least of which is your cell phone
towers. Now, the homing target can be any moving object. It can be
whatever is entered on the computer. It can be a squirrel in a tree,
a jogger on the beach, a building, whatever you want. The system
looks for any moving target in order to establish recognition to the
computer, in order to establish recognition of match pattern of
pulse. TWA 800 was flying at the exact same altitude that was
supposed to be designated for the “drone” craft. The drone plane was
fartehr out at sea. The “bounce” target was to be any moving object
in the air within 400 square miles.
Q: (L) So, TWA 800, through a series of problems, happened to find
itself at the right altitude, a restricted altitude, within the
parameters of the experiment. Anything further on this?
Not for now.
Q: (L) Okay, let’s move on to Courtney Brown.
(T) We all know who he
is, and what he is writing about in regard to remote viewing... what
is it all about?
Q: (T) Is the book Courtney Brown wrote, “Cosmic Voyage,” concerning
the Martian population...
A: It is true that there are underground bases on Mars, but they are
Q: (T) Are there Martians as portrayed by Courtney Brown?
A: Not exactly. He is portraying the Orion STS as the Martians.
Q: (T) Is Courtney Brown a government disinformation agent?
A: More as an “agent provocateur.”
Q: (T) Is he working for the government?
A: Not directly, and remember, the government is not one entity.
Q: (L) Who is primarily backing Courtney Brown?
A: Rockefeller group.
Q: (L) And, is Mike Lindemann and company part of this Rockefeller
group at this time?
Q: (L) Linda Howe?
Q: (T) Did Courtney actually do remote viewing to obtain the
information in the
A: Not really. Not needed.
Q: (T) Does this mean that the whole story is concocted on his part?
A: Semi. Elements of it are factual.
(T) Yes. I could see that there were factual elements. I could
also see that there was a LOT that was questionable. that conflicts
with EVERYTHING else that has come out from other researchers. This
is all totally twisted and different.
Q: (T) Is Courtney able to do remote viewing?
Q: (T) But he did not use it with this book?
Q: (T) So, the book was made up the way it is. It is a story. Some
factual information, some invented information, some pure BS thrown
in to fluff it out. So, the book is NOT an account of work that has
come from remote viewing sessions?
A: No, but not needed.
Q: (L) You have said twice that remote viewing was not “needed.”
Where did he get his information?
A: Secret sources. Agents of the nation “of the third eye.”
Q: (J) What or who - is the “Nation of the Third Eye?”
A: Terran civilization under the surface.
(L) Now, wait a minute. I remember that when they said the Aryans
were brought from Kantek, and that they were “sturdier,” or
something like that, and I remarked that it seemed that they would
be less sturdy - and the C’s answered “on the surface.” Now, that
has always bothered me. I don’t think they meant “surface
appearances.” Have the Aryans been glorified as the “master race”
because they are more suited to living underground?
A: Close. All types there are “Aryan.”
Q: (L) Okay, is this a Terran underground civilization that has been
‘managed’ by Orions, or did it develop on its own?
A: One at a time.
Q: (L) Did the underground civilization develop on its own?
Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?
Q: (L) Are these “managers” Orions from other densities?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) I don’t understand. Are there some that are 4th and some that
A: The human types there are “bi-density.”
Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!
A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can “visit” 3rd density,
must keep returning to 4th in order to “regenerate.”
Q: (T) Are you
saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as long as they want in
A: In 4th and 3rd.
Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease on
A: Well, not with “equal ease,” because 4th density is easier,
Q: (T) So, the information Courtney Brown was given to write this
quasi fiction book, is about the Aryans and not about the Martians?
A: “Martians” is easier to understand for the less well- informed,
mention any discussion of the densities!
Q: (T) Absolutely. Martians are easier to accept. A lot easier to
understand than densities!
(L) Okay, Third Eye. What is this?
A: That is what they call themselves when pressed for an explanation
types, such as yourselves. They were the inspiration for Masonic
lore and Illuminati, too.
Q: (L) Does this “Third Eye” designation have a connotation of third
eye abilities as we understand them?
Q: (T) Does Courtney know he has been had?
A: He has not been “had.” He is under the employ of those who pull
so to speak.
Q: (L) You said “pull the levers.” Is Courtney Brown a robot,
Greenbaumed, mind-controlled, implanted, or any or all of the above?
(T) Or is he just foolish?
A: No. Not so foolish, he does not worry aout paying the power bill.
Gump said: “Stupid is as stupid does.”
Q: (L) Are you implying that I am foolish or stupid because I DO
worry about paying the power bill?
A: No, we are not implying that you are stupid, or foolish, for that
But, Courtney Brown is not either. Who is he hurting? And, he has
hit the jackpot with this one. Knowledge can be procured by reading
literature, then analyzing it.
Q: (T) Is the time table that he has given correct?
Q: (T) So, the powers that be are going to follow this time table
and present the Aryans as Martians?
(L) Are the Aryans going to present themselves as Martians?
A: Initially. In order for the Terrans to get used to the idea of
Q: (T) But, they are not the good guys. Beware of Greeks bearing
A: Some of the “good guys” are identical in appearance.
Q: (T) Is this a subterfuge on the part of the Aryans so that they
can slide in quietly and take over?
A: No, they do not need that at all. It is a way for the
introduce everyone to the new reality of the existence of
intelligent life all over the place, not just here.
(T) So, they have their own agenda, but it is not what Courtney
presented in the book.
A: It does not matter. The book is a somewhat altered “New Reality
Q: (A) Where should I turn now concerning research subjects?
A: Not very specific, but due to the constraints, we will do our
focus on larger horizon of current search. You are limiting yourself
because of recent trend for more caution. This is restricting you.
Have you delved fully into field generators?
Q: (A) Which field to look at? Electromagnetic? Gravitational?
A: Of course it is up to you, but why not combine the two, since they
reality perfectly balanced and “interwoven” in nature!
(A) Should I abandon my work on quantum theory?
Again, as with all, it is up to you. But, if we were you, we
Q: (A) Should I look into the electromagnetic railguns problem?
A: Maybe, but first you must establish a link that you have pondered
set aside. You set many questions aside. Patience serves the
“questor of hidden knowledge” well!
Q: (A) Can you be more specific about the link you have in mind?
A: Yes, but we will not, because you must do the discovery here, in
the progress to be reestablished.
Q: (A) Is the subject of my research at all important? If so, why?
A: Of course it is! You are on a pre-destined mission as you have
instinctively known. Recently though, you have developed a greater
awareness of this. Self doubts are merely the result of crises in
your personal life. Please do not confuse this with your work.
Q: (A) Which branch of physics is closest to understanding of
(A) Which branch of mathematics?
A: Two of them: calculus and algebra.
Q: (A) Should I look into zero-point energy problem?
A: That one should be “set aside.” Because it will lead to a “dead
Q: (A) Are the extra-dimensions beyond those of space and time
A: What “extra dimensions?”
Q: (A) Is time multi-dimensional? If so, is it three- dimensional?
A: Not correct concept. Time is not a dimension. This is very
your standpoint, but let us just say that time is “selective,” or
Q: (A) I thank you for tonight. Any other comment to
ponder about before the next session?
A: Ask, if needed, for a comment on the last responses.
Q: (A) Yes, a comment is needed. I am confused about space, time,
Einstein’s general relativity, gravitation and electromagnetism.
A: Einstein’s Theory of Relativity is only partially correct. That
is why we say
that there is no “dimension” of time. As far as gravity and
electromagnetics are concerned, we suggest a review of the as yet
publicly unfinished Unified Field Theory of the same gentleman. Was
it completed and put into application in secret? Hmmmmm... And, if
so, what are the ramifications? Maybe you could make the same
Q: (L) Any last comment?
A; Slow down for strength of mind.
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November 30, 1996
Freddie, Laura, AJ (Via Internet) Terry and Jan
Q: (L) Hello, and who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from tonight?
Q: (L) You said previously that time was ‘selective and variable.’
What, exactly, does this mean?
A: By “Selective”, we mean simply to think of time as if it were
jukebox. There are many selections there, you may play them as you
choose. But you need not play them sequentially, unless that is all
you know. The selections are always there, are they not?
(L) Well, that is crazy! You can’t just go around having things
happening in random order?!
A: Random is in the eyes of the perceiver.
Q: (L) What is it that causes us to only be able to perceive time in
a sequential way?
A: DNA restructuring, as in the handiwork of our friends, STS 4th
Q: (L) Is there any possibility of regaining or restructuring this
A: Was there, will be again. You wanna know all there is to know
quantum reality, etcetera? Then it is time for you, and especially
Arkadiusz, to study all that you can about the “crop circles,” and
closely network with those studying them directly.
Q: (L) Why crop circles?
A: The answers to all the questions are, or will be there.
Q: (L) You said that crop circles represented thoughts from 6th
density. What does this mean?
A: We are compiling an almanac as well as a manual for the entire
population there. The reason we are doing this, is that there are
millions who want to know the answers on the eve of the Grand Cycle
Transformation. However, there are precious few that have chosen to
try this form of communication, thus opening up a conduit.
Q: (L) Well, how many people are going to be able to understand?
A: But it would not be in form with Prime Level 7 Directive to limit
the availability of supreme knowledge!!!
Q: (L) So you are trying to put the entire story out there for all
the world to see?
A: Not “trying,” we are, my dear.
Q: (L) Okay, crop circles are a language, so to speak. Are they in
some way related to mathematics?
A: Mathematics is the one and only true universal language.
Q: (L) Well, I just don’t see how they can be decoded.
A: In this room is all the mental power needed, with addition of
in Wroclaw, of course, that is needed to “crack” the code of our
Q: (L) How do we start?
A: All one needs is a foundational point to build a computer
program. And we
have given you this already.
Q: (L) But nobody wants to hear what we have been saying!
A: Well, the circles are undeniable in their existence, our
you is deniable.
Q: (L) Well, if they don’t want to hear it as it is channeled, what
makes the crop circles different?
A: Not point. If you can crack the code, this becomes an undeniable
that is ongoing, consistent, and demonstrable.
Q: (L) So, you mean that if we can show what they mean, have it make
sense, and then interpret others as they come into being, or show
A: Self explanatory and yes.
(L) At one point you mentioned that I needed to learn
mathematics, which can be a years long effort. And now, Ark is a
mathematician. Was this a clue that Ark was to be part of this?
A: Ark was coming into the picture all along. All is eternal, time
selective. We can see the entire jukebox menu selection at all
[Break, Ark joins group]
Q: (L) Ok, Ark has a question: how does one distinguish an authentic
crop circle from a fake one?
A: Authentic ones are intricate in design and meticulously in
meticulous in the
detail of their construction. The reality is that there have only
been a few “fake” crop circles in the entire history of the
phenomenon world wide, any way.
Q: (L) Ark asks: to crack the code,
is it sufficient to have a collection of pictures? I’m sure he means
crop circle pictures.
A: Yes, to start with.
(L) Ark says, to crack the code, we need an example. Can you
point some out?
(T) Example, as in crop circle pictures?
no, how to crack it, or whatever.
A: Please review transcripts.
Q: (L) Can you tell us, I’m curious, too. What is it, is it about
the using mathematics, or is it about something else?
A: You asked for interpretation of specific crop circles pictures
Q: (Jan) We already did that, I already did the graphics for the
ones we asked about last time. I have a whole file with nothing but
crop circles. Didn’t you send that to him? That’s what we’re talking
about. We need other pictograms to ask about.
(T) Oh, I know what we
need. It’s not just pictures of crop circles, we need the dimensions
of the crop circles as well. You can’t do anything mathwise if you
don’t know how big or whatever.
(Ark) If Einstein’s relativity is
only partly correct, as pointed out last time, and this is because
of the variable ‘time’, does this imply that the theory of
relativity based on Galilei group is better than that based on
Q: (L) Why?
Because of the symmetric calculations they used as a basis for
Q: (T) Where has the Lorentz group gone wrong?
A: Too complex to answer.
Q: (A) Is entropy the key concept that must be included into the
unified field theory in order to include other densities into the
A: Need to back up and reflect before proceeding. There is still a
link” that is earlier in the process. Any mathematics problem will
collapse if there is a missing link.
Q: (L) Well if he goes back and finds that missing link, will he
then need to include entropy into the equation? Into the theory in
order to include other densities?
A: Must find link before answer is given, otherwise it is useless
Q: (A) Can decoding of information from crop circles be automatized
completely? Can this be done by a computer program, without human
intervention, with out work of mind?
A: Not likely, and what would be the benefit? Learning is necessary
progress of soul. Remember, we are not here to lead by the hand. We
will help, but some answers are for you to decipher, and you have
been extraordinarily good at this, my Arkadiusz, since very early
childhood. This is how you are building your power center. All there
is is lessons and learning is fun. More fun even than teaching.
Q: (A) Should I look into sono-luminescence? Are there causal time
A: Q1: Yes. Q2: On the right track, now blend or unify. No
Q: (T) No polarities?
(L) I have no... none of us knows anything.
(T) That’s absolute.
(T) Well, if you don’t have
polarities, then it’s absolute. It doesn’t matter if the numbers are
minus or plus. We’re dealing in absolutes.
(A) So, cracking the code
is to be computer- assisted mind work, that is, human
interpretation, assisted by computer program. Which branch of
algebra will have to be used for that?
A: Not necessary to use algebra here.
Q: Anything further on that? We should let him ask, actually...
A: Such as?
Q: (A) I need guidance here. Can you give me some more specific than
A: Please be more specific as to where, or with what, or how you
wish to have
guidance. All will be well and soon.
[AJ signs off for the evening]
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