May 27, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight.
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L) We would like to ask some more questions about the
mentioned the other night. We were given the height and distance
apart of the three column structure, would it be okay to build this
on the perimeter of the existing pool?
A: No. You must wait until you have the financial resources to
inground pool. The spiral must be below ground level by at least 1
be constructed of blue, gold ceramic tile perfectly cut and even.
cannot be purchased as prefabricated. Must be constructed onsite.
Cap should be 18 centimeters in height, 2 meters in length, same
dimensions for cap and base.
Q: (L) Can or should we do this with our own hands?
A: Hire a contractor... you are not adequately skilled.
Q: (L) How many grooves in each column?
A: Diameter of columns should be 10 to 14 centimeters, width of
be 2 centimeters. Use illustrations of authentic ionic columns as a
Q: (L) The counter-clockwise spiral of tile, how many turns?
A: Turns not important. Width should be 1.6 meters.
Q: (L) Blue tile with gold border?
A: Mixed blue and gold.
Q: (L) Blue with specks of gold?
A: Close. Translucent.
Q: (L) Is azure an appropriate blue?
Q: (L) Should anything be incorporated into the cement mix to pour
Q: (L) Should the columns be hollow and used for flowing water?
A: No. Place fountain or hydrable pond in front of columns.
Q: (L) Pool shape: square on one end then rounded at one end.
Rectangular with a curved end. [planchette is drawing shape of pool]
(Curved end to follow guide of columns at end).
A: The fountain should be in between and the spiral in the middle of
Q: (L) Are you having fun designing a 3rd density pool?
A: 6th density is always “fun!”
Q: (L) What about the turns on the spirals at the top of the
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Is this pool meant to be built here, on this property?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Well...
(S) Had you planned on moving?
(L) Well, I hadn’t
planned on it,
but that is a strange answer. I guess I will do whatever presents
itself as the right thing to do.
(S) Well, you have to get the money
A: SV, invest now!
Q: (S) What should I invest in?
Q: (S) Penny stocks? Should I sell my gold?
Q: (S) I could get advances on my credit cards... What kinds of
A: All the reference materials you need are at your disposal.
newsletters, “papers,” etc.
Q: (S) I am getting an investment magazine, but I haven’t really
been reading it
because of everything else...
A: Is “everything else” earning you money?
Q: (L) Okay guys, you gave advice before that SV did not follow, can
you be more
specific now that her situation is changed?
A: If we did that, she would balk.
Q: (S) I would not balk!
A: Yes you would!
Q: (S) In order to go to Argus tomorrow...
A: We did not say to go to Argus tomorrow. “Now” means without
delay. The reference materials as well as networking will provide
you with all the answers you need. [This was delivered VERY fast and
strong!] Use your mind to find low priced stocks in the areas of
conservation, environmental protection and medical,
telecommunication and computer technology... Also, information
processing, such as software development, etc...Precious metals and
related is a good area too.
Q: (S) Well, I was brought up to not borrow money and to keep all
the bills paid
first... then if there is anything left over....
A: SV, for heaven’s sake, why limit yourself? When you exercise your
lines and use the capital borrowed, as long as you have a steady
worst that can happen is you store your money. The best that can
happen is that you become wealthy... So, why sell yourself short?!?
Q: (L) Are you saying that she should extend her credit, use the
borrowed capital to invest, and that she will make money?
A: Yes. Now: All three of you are uniquely oriented toward
income at a meteoric level.
Q: (L) Is this something that requires an interaction between the
three of us, or is it individual?
A: Are three gold bars worth more than one? Laura! Turn over stones,
apples, do whatever you have to do to get your computer refitted to
accommodate the internet, including the online market system, as soon
as absolutely possible!!!!!!
Q: (L) Well, I am not really in a position to spend that money right
now! And what do you mean to ‘turn over stones and sell apples?’
A: Figures of speech! Do what you have to do... take care of the
Dear, the rest will fall into place...
Q: (L) Well, I don’t know how we got off onto this thing about
making money... what is all of this making of money supposed to do
(S) Build the pool...
A: And other...
Q: (L) Now, back to some of my other questions: I want to know why
Freddie used to pound the ground with a stick when he was a child, a
habit that caused his parents to think he needed to see a
Q: (L) But it was such an odd way to go about it. What did this
particular activity did to create or alter or modify a channel -
(S) Maybe he was “grooving” himself?
A: All of the above... Did you not study hypnotic states?
Q: (L) But he described it as such a random rhythm... the
changing... the running about to pound the ground here and there...
A: It was not random.
Q: (L) Was there something on another density that this activity
A: No, it just opened the channel.
Q: (L) Okay. What is going on with PZ... I am just completely
baffled by this behavior...
A: She thinks you are “out to lunch.”
Q: (L) Well... why?
A: Her conditioning.
Q: (L) Well, she seems to be going down the tubes fast...
Q: (L) And there is nothing I can do about it... I feel sorry for
A: She hoped that you would be a money maker for her, and so, she
put up with
Q: (L) Well, I sort of figured that out finally.
A: Beware! TF has a similar thought pattern!
Q: (L) I have been thinking that I ought to write to TF and ask him
write me OUT of the whole project...
A: Suggest you not waste “time” on your suggestion, and make certain
Q: (L) What suggestion? Suggest that I not waste time in contacting
Q: (L) Then I will just e-mail him...
Q: (L) What do you mean by “include all others?”
A: Who else has TF met through you?
Q: (L) Well.... okay.
(F) Why were you thinking about that?
Well, I don’t
know... I went to a psychiatrist recently... and I am wondering if
going again is going to help me deal with all the things going on
Q: (L) Okay, SV’s sister and niece are coming, and I have the
feeling that this
is going to be a serious disruption?
Q: (S) Is there anything I can do to minimize it?
A: Take control, after all, it is your house!
Q: (S) I know that...
A: But you don’t do it!!! Okay, folks, Good Night!
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June 1, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
Q: (L) Freddie and I would like to have a comment on our dispute.
Q: (F) I don’t know what to ask.
(L) Well, Freddie says that
violence is NEVER an appropriate response to words.
Q: (L) I say that under some circumstances, it may be the only
A: Why do you say that?
Q: (L) Because there do exist situations where words are used
repeatedly to harm another. One example is the Nazi propaganda
machine. If someone had shot Goebbles, it might have saved a lot of
people from dying.
Q: (L) Well, of course. There would have been someone else. Still,
the point is, words can be used to destroy, and words of power can
be used to kill. Sometimes words can be a lot more hurtful to the
soul than physical acts.
A: Not directly.
Q: (L) Well, directly, or indirectly, it still amounts to the same
Q: (L) Well, I know you are not going to agree with me.
A: This is a subject that demands further exploration, in order to
bring about a
Q: (L) Go ahead. Explain it to me.
A: Words only have power if the receiver believes they do.
Q: (L) But, in many cases, that belief exists.
A: The power to control belief lies exclusively within the receiver.
Q: (L) Let me put it this way: Freddie often says things that are
soothing to the soul, to say the least. Most often, I ignore them.
But, sometimes I am not in an ignoring mood, and my response is no
more violent toward him than his toward me. I merely speak
metaphorically. When I do, I am only saying “Stop doing that!” in a
figurative way. But, he finds this to be as irritating to him as
what he says that irritates me...
Q: (L) Well, that is about it. I have lately been verbally attacked
individuals... so I am not in a mood to tolerate much in this line
from those around me.
A: And if this irritates you, it is because you allow it to.
Q: (L) Fine and dandy. And it is true, and I know it. Which is why I
beginning to think that I ought to simply do nothing, because my
feelings are too sensitive.
A: And do you really believe that that is an unalterable condition?
Q: (L) Well, why should I be the one who is obliged to become less
and other people are not obliged to become more thoughtful about
what they say?
A: You cannot control others.
Q: (L) I don’t want to control anyone. I am just saying that the
is for me to simply withdraw into my own little world of reading and
thinking and writing, and if nothing ever comes of any of it, it is
utterly immaterial to me.
A: That is your choice, but not a wise one!!!
Q: (L) Well, you say that, but it is, as several people have pointed
out to me,
only since we have begun this channeling project that all these
dreadful things have happened in my life. My life is a shambles!
A: “Dreadful is subjective.”
Q: (L) I would say that the physical things that have happened to
collapse of my marriage, the things that have happened to my
children, are pretty damn dreadful, subjectively or otherwise!
A: Before these changes began to manifest, you were deeper into the
illusion” than you are now. Emergence is, by its very nature,
But, it has and will, empower you, we promise!!!!!!!!
Q: (L) It is a very trying time now. I am having a difficult time
A: And there have been others, and will be others, but that does not
the rewards will be slight.
Q: (L) Well...
A: You are on a path of destiny, and there is no turning back now.
Q: (S) What happened in specific?
(L) Well, I was trying to explain
some of the
material to several people, and the end result was that they decided
that I was possessed and that the C’s were evil because they say
that we have to figure things out ourselves in order to graduate to
the next level. Including my husband.
A: Why does this bother you? It does not bother us. They can all
we are the “Queens of Satan,” if they wish. It is free will.
Q: (L) I don’t like the implied hardness... I am not a hard person.
A: It is not hardness. The “feelings” you describe are related to
ego, and by
relation, pride, two things that were deliberately implanted into
the 3rd density human psyche by the 4th density STS 309,000 years
ago, as you measure time. Refer to the transcripts with regard to
DNA alteration and the occipital ridge. Believe it or not, you,
Laura, will be rid of these, eventually. It is not what some
individuals respond to you that matters. It is sharing the
information that counts. Also, remember, these persons do not
perceive your feelings and sensitivities as keenly as you do, nor do
you perceive theirs, likewise.
Q: (L) There is someone who wants to ask some questions...
A: We are not finished with this subject. Also, it is important to
in most cases in which you have suffered “attack” from those on the
internet, you were not directly conveying the information we have
given to you. You were presenting thoughts that you claimed as your
own, or knowledge that you have gathered strictly through your own
efforts, thus, it was responded to in kind. This you must expect if
you are going to plant the bulk of the credit upon yourself, then
you open up yourself to direct criticism. This is not wise if you
are not prepared for negative reactions. Third density beings will
always perceive knowledge that is being given to them before they
are ready to receive it as “preaching,” and they resent this because
of the very same ego related issues we discussed earlier. So,
suggestion: better to frame knowledge transference with a preamble
such as, “this is what was given to me, it is up to you to decide
for yourself whether or not you are comfortable with accepting it,
Q: (L) Well, that is NOT true, by ANY stretch of the imagination. I
to talk about it anymore with you. You are being completely wrong!
Talk about assumptions!
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June 9, 1996
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
Q: (L) I have several questions that have been submitted by other
Q: (L) The first one is from Phillip P., for whom we have asked a
couple of questions in the past. He wrote and called to tell me that
his sister had hand prints, bruises, and the description was very
similar to the ones I saw on Scarlett’s legs. Also, the sister had 3
little puncture marks in a triangular pattern on her ankle. He would
like to know what happened to her.
A: What does Phillip think?
Q: (L) Well, he just wanted to have a brief run-down on this. He
thinks she was abducted, and I tend to agree.
A: The point here is that learning involves reaching the stage where
confirmation by a third party is no longer needed, once one has
Q: (L) I know that. But, Phillip just wanted to know that he could
ask a question and get an answer specifically for him. I guess he
just wanted to think that somebody out there in the cosmos cares
about Phillip P. and his sister.
A: Nobody does.
Q: (L) Nobody cares about Phillip and his sister?
A: Nobody “cares” about individual units of the universal
Q: (L) We realize that, but we, as units in bodies of flesh...
A: One must get past the idea that there is some sort of
attached to individual consciousness units if one is to progress...
it just doesn’t work that way!
Q: (L) Well, does this mean to just forget the rest of the
A: No. All questions have great value if the answers are
Q: (L) Is there anything you CAN tell Phillip for his sister? What
are the three puncture marks on her ankle?
A: You know this.
Q: (L) Was this a sampling device, or an implanting device, an
energy drain, or
Q: (L) Since this also happened with Scarlett, the three fingered
hand prints on
the backs of the calves - what kind of beings leave these marks?
A: We are regressing.
Q: (L) I just wanted to ask a question for the guy, get something,
and go on to
more interesting subjects, for God’s sake! I don’t think this is
worth the amount of time and energy that it is taking. I don’t even
think it will be useful to the guy. I just want an answer for the
A: And you have one!
Q: (L) Phillip has another question for this David, who would like
to know what
happened to them in January, 1991, outside of Athens, Ohio; and who
was “Tim?” They saw a UFO speed past them and stop behind a hill and
they have never seen Tim since.
A: Very vague and directionless as presented.
Q: (L) That is all I have on that, so let’s move on. Who was Tim?
A: Pick up.
Q: (L) They saw a UFO speed down towards them and then stop behind a
do you mean by pick up?
A: Someone who was.
Q: (L) Picked up as in picked up by the UFO?
Q: (L) Picked up as in sexual or a hitchhiker?
A: The latter.
Q: (L) Did Tim have any connection to the UFO?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) What is the yes part?
A: Everyone has some connection to UFOs.
Q: (L) What is the no, that he had no connection to this one in
A: In the sense that your inquiry suggests.
Q: (L) Was there an abuction that took place when they saw this?
Q: (L) Did any unusual event occur in connection to this UFO?
Q: (L) Was what they saw a UFO?
Q: (L) Well, that settles that. Bob Tietz, publisher of Bill
Baldwin’s book, writes and asks: what can the C’s tell me about Dr.
Mahlon Loomis. Have the C’s been in contact with him?
Q: (L) Alright. If the C’s are not in contact, do you know who is?
A: These questions are difficult to deal with because the questioner
Q: (L) Is the assumption that there is anything or anyone at higher
levels in contact with this Dr. Mahlon Loomis?
A: Yes. And there are no such.
Q: (L) Is Dr. Loomis putting him on?
A: No, he is “out to lunch.”
Q: (L) Okay! Next question: Do the C’s know the whereabouts of one
A: Yes, deceased.
Q: (L) You just said that Dr. Loomis is out to lunch, can you
explain the process whereby he is given data?
A: This happens to those who fall prey to lower level contacts,
to be otherwise.
Q: (L) Bob asks: Do the C’s know of an entity claiming to be a
Sirian named Anitra?
Q: (L) If so, what can they tell me about the information that
Anitra, or any Sirian, is communicating?
A: Hocus pocus.
Q: (L) Tell us about the Sirians?
A: There aren’t any.
Q: (L) Why are all these people coming along and claiming to be
A: Why are all these people coming along claiming to be Jesus?
Q: (L) Do you know an Andalusian named Lucatron?
Q: (L) Who is this Andalusian, and what can you tell him about the
information coming from this source?
A: This “Andalusian” is delusional.
Q: (L) Can you express an opinion about Swedish genes, and any
spcific properties of these genes?
A: Yes. They tend to produce blonds with the greatest of
Q: (L) Are there any specific properties to those genes that are of
specific interest to aliens or extraterrestrials?
A: Only that which we have already told you, that this was the last
“race” to be
seeded on earth in 3rd density.
Q: (L) Okay. D4 is apparently still mucking about in the mire a bit.
questions were: 1] I had a very serious chat with God, in which I
following questions. First, who is this Melchizidek fellow and why
is Jesus said to be a priest after the order of Melchizidek? Who was
this Melchizidek who was said to have received tithes from Abraham?
A: False prophet.
Q: (L) Why is Jesus described as being a priest after the order of
A: We told you that
70 per cent of the Bible is false.
Q: (L) Well, 70 per cent would equal an amount that could consist of
the entire old testament.
Q: (L) Did Abraham pay tithes to Melchizidek?
Q: (L) Did a Melchizidek live at the time of the patriarch Abraham?
Q: (L) It was said that he was the priest king of Salem, which
became Jerusalem, and that he had neither father nor mother, and
that he came into being by his own will. Are any of these parts of
the story correct?
Q: (L) D4’s next question: what did Paul say during his out of body
experience, and why were these things not ‘lawful for a man to
A: Jesus said: “Give to Caesar that which is Caesars.”
Q: (L) How does that apply to this question?
A: Ponder for learning.
Q: (L) D4 asks: what did the seven peals of thunder say and why was
John commanded to seal up the things which the 7 peals of thunder
have spoken? Well, he would know a lot about these things if he
would read “Noah.”
A: This is an exercise in futility!
Q: (L) What, asking these questions, or dealing with these people?
A: There is much hope for D4, but he must discover it for himself.
Q: (L) Okay. Let’s toss that. My question is: is the information we
are receiving similar to what Al-Arabi calls an ‘opening?’
Q: (L) You say that you are unified thought forms in the realm of
Q: (L) Al-Arabi describes unified thought forms as being the ‘names
His explication seems to be so identical to things you tell us that
A: We are all the names of God. Remember, this is a conduit. This
both termination/origination points are of equal value, importance.
Q: (L) So, it is a blending of the aspects of God?
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: Does this mean that we are a part of this?
Q: (L) So, it has to do with...
A: Don’t deify us. And, be sure all others with which you
understand this too!
Q: (L) What quality in us, what thing, enabled us to make contact.
obviously a lot of people try and get garbage.
A: You asked.
Q: (L) A lot of people ask!
A: No they don’t, they command.
Q: (L) Well, a lot of people do ask or beg or plead, but they get
discombobulated with the answers.
A: No, they command. Think about it. You did not beg or plead...
commanding. After J.W. left, purification began.
Q: (L) This recent ‘awakening’ or period of seeing things with such
they really were, and the whole picture of the interactions between
people and how truly ugly it can be. I plunged into a terrible
depression. I needed to get my balance from seeing so much all at
once. Can you explain to me what was going on?
Q: (L) I tried to share this perception with other people, and
exception, when I said to people that I was finally seeing things in
their true state and it was NOT a pretty picture, they all said
“well, you are obviously seeing this through the eyes of some major
spirit possession!” Why would they say this?
A: First of all, it is not correct to perceive “everything in such
gloom, etc.” That is merely the result of a cocoon of falsehood
Celebrate the balance. Don’t mourn the death of an illusion of an
Q: (L) Where do I go from here? Where do we all go?
Q: (L) We were talking earlier about sleeping and dreaming. It seems
to me that sleeping cannot be an evolutionary benefit, because
sleeping would not evolve as something beneficial, because when you
are asleep, you are completely vulnerable to any munching monster
that passes by. Therefore, it is not conducive to evolution to
sleep. And, I think there is some other reason for this thing we
call sleeping. Obviously it is not to rest the brain, because the
brain is as active asleep as when awake. And the bodily functions...
A: Bodies may get munched; souls don’t, however!
Q: (L) Okay, yes, but still it makes me think that there is
something to this sleeping business that does not meet the eye in
strictly physical terms. Nobody seems to know why we sleep. You made
a remark once that dreams were a prime opportunity for the
implanting of negative information and suggestions. This makes me
think that we are even more vulnerable during sleep than previously
thought. Are we induced to slepp genetically for the purpose of
control by other density beings? Could you comment?
A: Ask specifics.
Q: (L) Is it essential, in an evolutionary sense, for the human body
Q: (L) Why is it that carnivores need more sleep than herbivores,
and on down?
A: Physicality, my dear, physicality.
Q: (L) What is it about physicality that necessitates sleep? What
are we doing while we are sleeping?
A: Body recharge.
Q: (L) Where is the body being recharged from or what is it being
Q: (L) What is the soul doing while the body is sleeping?
A: Same, it taxes the soul greatly to be embodied.
Q: (L) Is this why, when people suffer sleep deprivation, they go
Q: (L) Why are the results of sleep deprivation, psychosis, delirium
tremens, and psychedelic drugs and some mystical states so similar
in their expressions and manifestations? What is being seen?
Q: (L) Well, if doing without sleep provides an opening, what is it
an opening to?
A: Density levels 4 and up.
Q: (L) It would seem to me - well, why is this not good?
A: Who said it wasn’t?
Q: (L) Well, apparently a lot of people who have psychotic episodes,
go out of their minds. They can no longer function in this world.
They LOCK them up!
Q: (L) Why does melatonin induce these openings?
A: Gentle hallucinogen.
Q: (L) SV’s mother took it and got all discombobulated with it!
A: Perception is key. If you really “dig” 3rd density, it makes you
uncomfortable to see into the higher densities.
Q: (L) Can one use something like this and grow accustomed to the
A: Ask Timothy Leary.
Q: (S) It’s too late now! He’s in 5 D!
(L) Ask him for us.
A: We did, and he liked it a lot!
Q: (L) Did all of his use of hallucinogenics make it easier for him
Q: (L) Where is he now?
A: 5th density.
Q: (L) Moving along... recently I read “On the Trail of the
Assassins,” by Jim Garrison, the New Orleans attorney. This is the
book about his investigation into the Kennedy assassination. I know
that we asked one or two questions about this earlier, but I think
that now, with expanded perspective, we could ask a few more. Was
the purported Cuban agenda what was really behind the assassination
A: Not in its entirety.
Q: (L) Was there, in fact, any connection between this murder and
JFK planning to reveal the government’s knowledge of alien
A: Maybe, or that was feared, based upon a sophisticated
Q: (L) One thing that we noticed was that Lee Oswald was ‘sheep
dipped’ in many areas around the country, well before the election
of Kennedy. Why would this be the case?
Q: (L) What was the intention in using Oswald in this way? Was it
just to have a handy person around, or did they already know, in
advance, that Kennedy would be elected and that they would
A: Time alteration.
Q: (L) Do you mean time alteration in the sense that these events
did NOT actually occur at the noted times, or that they were able to
go back in time and do this to put more confusion into the picture?
A: Latter, see Montauk.
Q: (L) Obviously the consortium was operationg through the FBI, the
CIA, the Mafia, and God knows who else, but, can you tell us who
fired the shot that caused JFK’s death?
A: No, because it would put you in grave danger.
Q: (L) Speaking of Montauk, Roxanne quoted at length some
information received from some Native American about Montauk being
used to change the weather on the planet, and also sending out
energy waves to generate anger and other negative emotions. Is this
one of the used for the HAARP assembly?
Q: (L) Once before you said that the HAARP assembly was a
continuation of the Montauk project, and was being used to ‘transfer
perimeters.’ I guess this meant space/time travel, correct?
A: Yes. And resurrect Antlantean crystal principle.
Q: (L) Do they plan to actually attempt to bring up the Atlantean
Q: (L) Do they plan to use this for mind control?
A: And other uses.
Q: (L) Can you give us a few of these uses?
Q: (L) Is the HAARP assembly in operation now?
Q: (L) Is there an estimated date of its activation?
Q: (L) Is there anything you can tell us about when and if it will
Q: (L) Is there anything further you can tell us about this HAARP
A: Time to read Bielek.
Q: (L) But didn’t you tell us that Bielek was a disinformation
A: Yes, but can you weed?
Q: (L) Now, Admiral Boorda recently committed suicide...
A: Time to read Oeschler.
Q: (L) Did Admiral Boorda really commit suicide?
A: Yes. Culmination, as is usually the case.
Q: (L) A culmination of other things?
Q: (L) Did any of this have to do with human/alien interactions?
A: No. He was not aware of any of that.
Q: (L) What about Vince Foster? Did he commit suicide?
Q: (L) For the reasons proposed?
Q: (L) What was the main reason?
Q: (L) Back to Kennedy, people say that Marilyn Monroe committed
suicide, some say she was murdered. Was she murdered?
Q: (L) Was she murdered by the Kennedy’s or someone else?
Q: (L) Was it because she was going to reveal things?
Q: (L) Can you tell us what?
A: Any and all, but it does not matter, because the “bottom line”
was that she
knew too much.
Q: (L) Next, Aliester Crowley, who claimed to be the most evil man
on the planet: was he capable of doing the things he claimed in his
Q: (L) Was he used by other people?
A: Yes, and for now, good night!
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June 15, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) And who do we have this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
Q: (L) As you know, I have been studying the Sufi teachings, and I
discovering so many similarities in these Sufi “unveilings” to what
we have been receiving through this source, that I am really quite
amazed, to say the least.
So, my question is: could what we are doing here be considered an
incremental, “unveiling,” as they call it?
Q: (L) Now, from what I am reading, in the process of unveiling, at
points, when the knowledge base has been sufficiently expanded,
inner unveilings then begin to occur. Is this part of the present
Q: (L) My experience has been, over the past couple of years, that
there is a significant increase in knowledge, that it is sort of
cyclical - I go through a depression before I can assimilate - and
it is like an inner transformation from one level to another. Is
there something we can do, and if so, is it desirable, to increase
or facilitate this process in some way?
A: It is a natural process, let it be.
Q: (L) One of the things that Al-Arabi writes about is the
ontological level of
being. Concentric circles, so to speak, of states of being. And,
merely defines relationships. At each higher level you are closer to
relationship with the core of existence, and on the outer edges, you
closer relationship with matter. This accurately explicates the 7
have described for us. He also talks about the “outraying” and the
moving” toward knowledge. My thought was certain beings, such as 4th
STS, and other STS beings of 3rd density, who think that they are
situation where they will accrue power to themselves, but may, in
fact, be part of the “outraying” or dispersion into matter. Is this
a correct perception?
Q: (L) Al-Arabi says, and this echoes what you have said, that you
can stay in the illusion where you are, you can move downward or
upward. Is this, in part, whichever direction you choose, a function
of your position on the cycle?
A: It is more complex than that.
Q: (L) Well, I am sure of that. Al-Arabi presents a very complex
analysis and he probably didn’t know it all either... Nevertheless,
it almost word-for-word reflects things that have been given
directly to us through this source.
A: Now, learn, read, research all you can about unstable gravity
Q: (L) Okay. Unstable gravity waves. I’ll see what I can find. Is
there something more about this?
A: Meditate too!
Q: (L) Yes. Well, they have been telling us to meditate. Have you
been meditating, Freddie?
(F) Not lately.
A: We mean for you, Laura, to meditate about unstable gravity waves
as part of
Q: (L) Okay. Would it be alright to ask a few more questions about
A: Not unless you wish to get off the track.
Q: (L) That would be off the track from the way we are moving at
A: Not until you have memorized Sufi teachings to the extent that
you can cross
reference with Bible and similar works.
Q: (L) Okay. So, we are onto something with the Sufi teachings. But,
we don’t need to get off the track. I guess that they did with the
Koran what some other mystics have done with the Bible. It is clear
that there is something under the surface of it, but it is corrupted
and twisted. And, I was convinced by seeing this underlying pattern
that it was possible to penetrate the veil, and that gave me the
impetus to push for a breakthrough.
A: Unstable gravity waves unlock as yet unknown secrets of quantum
make the picture crystal clear.
Q: (L) Can we free associate about these gravity waves since no
bookstores are open at this hour? Gravity seems to be a property of
matter. Is that correct?
Q: (L) And hmmmm....
A: And antimatter!
Q: (L) Is the gravity that is a property of antimatter
“antigravity?” Or, is it just gravity on the other side, so to
Q: (L) Okay. Gravity is the binder. Is gravity the binder of matter?
Q: (L) Is gravity a property of light?
A: Not the issue.
Q: (L) What is the issue? Can you help me out here, Freddie?
A: Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal
Q: (L) Is antimatter ethereal existence?
A: Pathway to.
Q: (L) Okay.
A: Doorway to.
Q: (L) Are unstable gravity waves... no, hold everything... do
waves emanate from 7th density?
Q: (L) Do they emanate from any particular density?
A: That is just the point, there is none.
Q: (L) There are no unstable gravity waves?
Q: (L) There is no emanation point?
Q: (L) So, they are a property or attribute of the existence of
matter, and the
binder of matter to ethereal ideation?
A: Sort of, but they are a property of anti-matter, too!
Q: (L) So, through unstable gravity waves, you can access other
Q: (L) Can you generate them mechanically?
A: Generation is really collecting and dispersing.
Q: (L) Okay, what kind of a device would collect and disperse
gravity waves? Is this what spirals do?
A: On the way to.
Q: (L) So, if were to focus on collecting unstable gravity waves...
A: When you wrote “Noah” where did you place gravity?
Q: (L) I thought that gravity was an indicator of the consumption of
electricity; that gravity was a byproduct of a continuous flow of
A: Gravity is no byproduct! It is the central ingredient of all
Q: (L) I was evaluating by electric flow and consumption... and I
was thinking that electricity was evidence of some sort of
consciousness, and that gravity was evidence that a planet that had
it, had life...
A: We have told you before that planets and stars are windows. And
Q: (L) The windows?
A: The gravity.
Q: (L) Oh. Gravity must go into the ethereal dimensions or
densities. I mean, you have my head going in so many different
directions that I feel like I have popcorn in there.
Q: (L) Well, where does gravity go. The sun is a window. Even our
planet must be a window!
A: You have it too!!
Q: (L) So, gravity is the unifying principle... the thing that keeps
things together, like the way all the fat pulls together in a bowl
A: Gravity is all there is.
Q: (L) Is light the emanation of gravity?
Q: (L) What is light?
Q: (L) Is gravity the same as the strong and weak nuclear forces?
A: Gravity is “God.”
Q: (L) But, I thought God was light?
A: If gravity is everything, what isn’t it? Light is energy
generated by gravity.
Q: (L) Is gravity the “light that cannot be seen,” as the Sufis call
it: the Source.
A: Please name something that is not gravity.
Q: (L) Well, if gravity is everything, there is nothing that is not
Fine. What is absolute nothingness?
A: A mere thought.
Q: (L) So, there is no such thing as non-existence?
A: Yes, there is.
Q: (L) Do thoughts produce gravity?
Q: (L) Does sound produce gravity?
Q: (L) Can sound manipulate gravity?
Q: (L) Can it be done with the human voice?
Q: (L) Can it be done tonally or by power through thought?
Q: (L) Then, is there also specific sound configurations involved?
A: Gravity is manipulated by sound when thought manipulated by
to produce sound which manipulates gravity.
Q: (L) Now, did the fellow who built the Coral Castle spin in his
airplane seat while thinking his manipulations into place?
A: No. He spun when gravity chose to manipulate him to spin in order
Q: (L) Does gravity have consciousness?
Q: (L) Is it ever possible for the individual to do the choosing, or
is it gravity that IS him that chose?
A: The gravity that was inside him was all the gravity in existence.
Q: (L) Well, I thought the Sufis were tough!
(F) Well, it’s probably
because of your studies that this door opened.
(L) Good grief! What
have I done! Alright. I am confused.
A: No you are not.
Q: (L) Then, just put it this way: I am befuddled and overloaded.
A: Befuddling is fun!
Q: (L) Well, I guess that if any of this is going to be of
particular significance to us, then we will certainly find out the
details as we go along.
A: How many times do we have to tell you?!?!
Q: (L) Learning is fun! Right!
A: The entire sum total of all existence exists within each of you,
Q: (L) Then what is the explanation for the “manyness” that we
A: Perception of 3rd density.
Q: (L) So, the entire universe is inside me... okay, that’s... I
Oddly enough, I do. The problem is accessing it, stripping away the
A: That is the fun part.
Q: (L) So, the fellow who built the Coral Castle was able to access
Consistently or only intermittently?
Q: (L) According to what I understand, at the speed of light, there
is no mass, no time, and no gravity. How can this be?
A: No mass, no time, but yes, gravity.
Q: (L) A photon has gravity?
A: Gravity supercedes light speed.
Q: (L) Gravity waves are faster than light?
Q: (L) What would make a gravity wave unstable?
Q: (L) I feel like I am missing a really big point here...
A: You are, but you can only find it at your own pace.
Q: (L) Well, I think I need to do some reading and research so that
I can come
back to this.
A: And, on that note, good night.
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June 22, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV, V
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you transmitting from?
Q: (L) Tonight, I would like to ask about 5th density. How does the
line” between the 4 physical densities and 5th function?
A: Recycling zone, one must have direct contact in perfect balance
with those on
6th density in order to fulfill the need for contemplation/learning
in between incarnations of 1st through 4th densities.
Q: (L) When a
person finishes all their experiences on 1st through 4th density, do
they then remain at 5th for a period before to moving to 6th.
Q: (L) When you die in 3rd and go to 5th, do you pass through or see
Q: (L) When you are in 5th density, is part of your service to be a
guide? Are there two kinds of beings on 5th: those who are there for
the recycling, and those whose level it simply IS?
A: No. All are as one in timeless understanding of all there is.
Q: (L) If, at 5th density a person has timeless understanding, what
is it about them that determines that they will “recycle” as opposed
to moving to 6th from 5th?
A: Contemplation reveals needed destiny.
Q: (L) So, being united with other beings on 5th, you come to some
sort of understanding about your lessons....
A: Balanced. And this, my dear, is another example of gravity as the
all creation... “The Great Equalizer!”
Q: (L) In this picture in my mind, the cycle moves out, in
dispersion, begins to accrete and return to the source. Is this
Q: (L) Is this, in fact, that exactly half of all that exists, is
moving into imbalance, while the other half is moving into balance?
Q: (L) All the cosmos? All that exists?
Q: (L) Is it possible that one area of the cosmos has more of the
balance seeking energy while another has more of that which is
A: Oh yes!
Q: (L) Is the Earth one of those areas that is more imbalanced than
balanced at the present time?
A: Yes, but rapidly moving back toward balance.
Q: (L) Is the Realm Border part of this balancing?
Q: (V) A few weeks ago several of us began to suffer from internal
insomnia, and other things. What was this?
A: Image. Deep conjunction of fibrous linkage in DNA structure.
Q: (V) Well, I want to know if it is in my mind that I get so hot,
or does my
body temperature actually elevate?
A: Only on 4th.
Q: (V) I don’t understand.
A: Bleedthrough, get used to those!
Q: (L) Does this mean we are actually experiencing a bleedthrough of
Q: (V) Are the little flashes of light I see also a manifestation of
A: Maybe so, but try to concentrate on the ethereal significance,
Q: (L) When you say “deep conjunction of fibrous linkage,” does this
we are conjoining with a linkage to a 4th density body that is
A: Slowly, but surely. Now, get ready for a message: We have told
that the upcoming “changes” relate to the spiritual and awareness
factors rather than the much publicized physical. Symbolism is
always a necessary tool in teaching. But, the trick is to read the
hidden lessons represented by the symbology, not to get hung up on
the literal meanings of the symbols!
Q: (L) You say that the symbology has to do with hidden meanings.
that you used was “image” and “deep fibrous linkage” of DNA. Now, is
that a physical, symbolic image?
Q: (L) What is your definition of “image?” We have many.
A: Learning is fun, Laura, as you have repeatedly found!
Q: (L) Well, I am so hot now that I really want to know! And, how
come I am always the one who gets assigned the job of figuring
A: Because you have asked for the “power” to figure out the most
issues in all of reality. And, we have been assisting you in your
Q: (L) Image. DNA linkage.
(V) “Power” was in quotes.
A: Leave that alone for now, you will know soon enough.
Q: (V) Is this 4th density body something that already exists so
that we could communicate with it?
A: Habeas Corpus?
Q: (V) Well, they just said...
(L) Well, what they must mean is that
you ARE it - you are transforming little by little and all of the
unpleasant little side-effects are just part of it.
Q: (V) Righteous!
(L) Terry showed me a couple of accupuncture
points that seem to induce an altered state. Is this, as he says, a
way to open the door to the subconscious?
A: Stimulates endorphins.
Q: (L) Is there any point on the body that CAN be used to assist in
opening the gate to the subconscious?
A: No such assistance is needed. First, we would like to suggest
that you seek
a “spin” doctor for your quest!!
Q: (L) Would a “spin” doctor be a Sufi master?
A: One example.
Q: (L) Yes. We are supposed to do several things involved with
A: Hilliard. Leed Skallen. Coral Castle.
Q: (L) Well, they are really pushing on this gravity thing. Can I
ask a question on another subject?
A: You can ask about the Easter Bunny, if you wish.
Q: (L) Is 3rd density awareness the only density with perception of
Q: (L) Well, what others?
Q: (L) But I thought that time perception was an illusion?
A: YOUR perception of it is an illusion. Remember the example of the
cats riding in a car?
Q: (L) Yes. Ouspensky and the horse. So, time, as an essential
A: But not as you know it. When we refer to “timelessness,” we are
the standpoint of your familiarity only.
Q: (L) Does time then exist, and does space have a limit?
A: You are getting confused because your inborn linear perception is
the image your efforts are trying to produce.
Q: (L) Okay, let’s go back to the “balancing” of Earth. How can this
A: Vague question.
Q: (L) Let me try this: the “buckets of love and light” group say
that it is
going to be balanced because everyone is going to think nice
thoughts, and all of their buckets of love and light are going to
eventually reach a critical mass and spill over onto all the rest of
humanity and all of the bad guys are going to be transformed into
good guys. This is the standard version. Is this what you mean?
Q: (L) Swell! Is the energy that is being manifested in the
positive, on and
around the planet, is it going to reduce the level of negativity in
the beings existing on the planet?
A: This is not the point. When “Earth” becomes a 4th density realm,
forces, both STS and STO shall be in direct contact with one
another... It will be a “level playing field,” thus, balanced.
Q: (V) I am wondering about the significance of the quoted words. Is
kind of code?
A: Maybe you should go back to the beginning, and arrange all our
statements in sequential order?
Q: (L) Do you mean ALL the transcripts?
Q: (F) Well, they mentioned twice to be careful about putting in the
(L) One of the crop circles you interpreted was
an “astronomical twin phenomenon.” What is an astronomical twin
A: Many perfectly synchronous meanings.
Q: (L) Synchronicity is involved. Does this have something to do
A: Duplicity of, as in “Alice through the looking glass.”
Q: (L) Double images. Does this relate to matter and antimatter?
A: Yes, and...
Q: (L) Gravity and manifesting on one side and manifesting a mirror
image on the other...
A: Yes, and...
Q: (L) And images of 4th density bodies with tenuous fibers
connecting to DNA as in manifesting imaginal bodies on 4th density?
Q: (L) Okay, that relates to stars and planets... astronomical in
terms of another universe, an alternate universe composed of
A: Yes, and....
Q: (L) And is this alternate universe going to merge with our
Q: (L) Is this alternate universe of antimatter the point from which
phenomena occur or are manifested in our universe?
A: More like doorway or “conduit.”
Q: (L) Is this alternate universe the means by which we must travel
to 4th density? Is it like a veil, or an abyss of some sort?
A: Think of it as the highway.
Q: (L) So, we must travel through this universe of antimatter in
order to reach 4th density?
Q: (L) Is something going to happen in terms of interacting with
in order to bring about some sort of transition?
A: No. Realm Border is traveling wave.
Q: (L) Okay, you say “traveling wave,” and then you say that
antimatter is the
highway. Does this mean moving through antimatter or interacting in
some way with antimatter via the the impetus of the traveling wave,
or realm border?
A: Bends space/time, this is where your unstable gravity waves can
Q: (L) Utilizing antimatter by creating an EM field, which
gravity wave, allows antimatter to unite with matter, creating a
portal through which space/time can be bent, or traveled through via
this “bending.” In other words, producing an EM field, bringing in
the antimatter, IS the bending of space/time? Is that it?
Q: (V) Is there a portal for each person, or one large portal?
Q: (V) So we move through a portal in masses?
Q: (L) Is this generating of EM fields to destabilize the gravity
wave what the
HAARP assembly is designed and built for?
Q: (V) If there are not personal portals for one person, or portals
A: Portal is where you desire it to be.
Q: (V) So it could just be a state of mind?
A: No. With proper technology you can create a portal where desired.
Q: (L) Proper technology. Unstable gravity waves. And once you told
us to study
Tesla coils.... antimatter... destabilizing the gravity waves
generation allows the antimatter to interact with matter which then
portal... is it in the antimatter universe that all this traveling
forth is done by aliens when they abduct people?
A: Close. They transport through it, but most abductions take place
3rd or 4th density.
Q: (L) Is this movement through the antimatter universe, is this
what people perceive in their abductions as the “wall of fire?” The
coming apart. The demolecularizing?
A: No. That is TransDimensional Atomic Remolecularization.
Q: (L) Okay, if a person were passing into the antimatter universe,
how would they perceive it?
A: They wouldn’t.
Q: (L) Why?
A: No space; no time.
Q: (L) Antimatter universe has no space and no time... so, the
antimatter universe is possibly where the poor guys of flight 19
Q: (L) And you can get stuck in this place?
A: Yes. And if you are in a time warp coccoon, you are
hyperconscious, i.e. you
perceive “zero time” as if it were literally millions of years, that
is if the cycle is connected or closed, as in “Philadelphia
Experiment.” And, on that note, good night.
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June 29, 1996
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello. We are the Cassiopaen transmitting 6th density beings of
for purposes of an identifier for your famiiarity pattern, we will
label this consciousness unit “Jarrah.”
Q: (L) Well, that is an interesting opening. I guess you have been
tuned in during the week and have been aware of the stuff going on
in my head. I would like to get directly to my questions as they
have developed during the past few days. The first thing is in
regard to the Santilli session: is awareness equal to gravity?
A: It is a part therein.
Q: (L) Does accumulation of knowledge and awareness correspond to an
increase in gravity?
Q: (L) You said that energy can change the value of the density. The
value of the density, as I understand it, is either plus or minus.
Does this mean that pumping energy into 3rd density from another
realm of space/time can intensify the gravity to such a state that
it changes its unit and becomes antimatter?
Q: (L) You said that EM was the same as gravity. Does an increase in
EM, the collection of EM or the production of an EM wave, does this
increase gravity on those things or objects or persons subjected to
A: Gravity does not ever get increased or decreased, it is merely
Q: (L) If gravity is collected and dispersed, and planets and stars
are windows, and you say that human beings “have” gravity, does that
mean that the human beings, or the life forms on a given planet or
in a given solar system, are the collectors of this gravity?
A: No. Gravity is the collector of human beings and all else! Make
Q: (L) Is STO the equivalent of dispersing gravity?
A: No, STO is a REFLECTION of the existence of gravity dispersal.
Q: (L) Is STS also dispersal of gravity?
A: No. Collection is reflected. STS is reflection or reflected by
Q: (L) You said that changing the unit involves movement to another
density. You also said that antimatter realm is the door to, or the
pathway to, ethereal existence. Is 4th density, therefore, an
Q: (L) Do the beings in 4th density manifest in an antimatter state?
Q: (L) Is 4th density a density where both matter and antimatter are
A: Not in balance, in evidence.
Q: (L) So matter and antimatter are both available for utilization
by individuals according to will and awareness?
A: Close. Antimatter and matter are balanced everywhere.
Q: (L) What effect does collection of gravity - you said gravity was
collecting human beings - what effect...
A: No, we did not say that. You don’t learn when you “skip over” the
Q: (L) What did I skip over? You said that “gravity is the collector
of human beings?”
A: Yes, but all else is the key. When one says that, there is no
Q: (L) Yes, well I am asking these questions at OUR level here. What
effects does gravity have on the body?
A: Too complicated. Try breaking your question down.
Q: (L) You say that increasing awareness was “a part therein,” of
gravity. So, if a person is increasing awareness, do they also
increase in gravity?
Q: (L) What is the relationship between the increasing awareness and
A: Nothing direct.
Q: (L) I am trying to find out what effect increasing awareness has
on human beings in relation to this unstable gravity wave you have
mentioned, as well as the oncoming “wave.”
A: You are trying to “marry” two parallels.
Q: (L) We have two parallels... okay... so if one is exponential
increasing in awareness, the sign of the units of bodily energy does
A: You are still attempting to generate.
Q: (L) Well, I am just trying to get a grip on some ideas here...
A: Then change the thought pattern. Gravity is the “stuff” of all
therefore it has an unchanging property of quantity.
Q: (L) So, gravity is not being “used,” per se?
Q: (L) You said that light was an energy expression of gravity. Then
A: You can utilize gravity, but you cannot “use” it. You cannot
decrease that which is in perfectly balanced static state.
Q: (L) So, gravity is in a perfectly “static” state. Yet, it can be
Can you make clear for me the transition from the static state to
A: There is no transition, just application.
Q: (L) What occurs from the perfectly static state to the
application mode? Is
anybody following me?
A: No, including us!
Q: (L) Wonderful! What I am trying to get at is, 1) gravity exists
in a static
state; 2) light is an energy expression of gravity, therefore it is
A: No. Light is an expression of gravitational energy.
Q: (L) Well, when one has an expression, it expresses onto, into, or
A: It does?
Q: (L) Well...
A: If a tree falls in the forest, and nothing is there to hear it,
does it make
Q: (L) You are saying that gravity is everywhere in balance and
static, and then you say that utilization causes unstable gravity
waves. And then you say that gravity is God, and that God is all
creation, and we are a part of all creation, and, therefore, we are
of God, and gravity. So, what I am trying to get at here is what is
the thing, the event, the manifestation, the mode of utilization
that takes gravity from a perfectly static state to an unstable
state, if you are saying it is always perfectly balanced. That does
not make sense to me.
A: Instability does not automatically mean non-static. Unstable
waves can be
static in their instability.
Q: (L) None of this makes a whole lot of sense. I thought I was
beginning to understand it, and obviously I don’t have a clue. Let’s
try a different direction. You said that the universe consists of
equal amounts of matter and antimatter. Are the first three
densities, densities of matter?
A: And antimatter.
Q: (L) Are there equal amounts of matter and antimatter at all
A: Yes. Remember, density refers to one’s conscious awareness only.
is aware, all [many spirals of the planchette] conforms to that
Q: (L) What is it about the oncoming wave that is going
to make any given person aware?
A: Not yet... First: your prophets have alwasy used 3rd density
symboloby to try
to convey 4th density realities. You are attempting to gather 3rd
density answers to explain 4th through 7th density principles. This
is why you are getting frustrated, because it doesn’t “mesh.”
Q: (L) Are manifestations in 3rd density loci of collection of
A: In part. But, so are manifestations on all densities.
Q: (L) Okay. So, if...
A: What do you suppose the opposite of gravity is?
Q: (L) Antigravity?
Q: (L) So, if all that exists were like a blown up balloon, and the
surface of the ballon represents the static state of gravity, 7th
density maybe... and it begins to bump out in different places...
and all these little bumps are loci of manifestation of various
densities - and this is very simplified, I am just trying to get an
image - is this getting, even very simplistically, an idea that I
can work with?
A: As long as you have an “antiballoon” too.
Q: (L) So, can we make the outer surface of the balloon a balloon,
and the inner surface or the air the “antiballoon?”
Q: (L) Two balloons next to one another?
A: No. A nonballoon.
Q: (L) A nonballoon? You are making me CRAZY! You are saying that
NOTHING exists! We are just not even HERE!
Q: (L) Well, for God’s SAKE! Help me out with a visual on this!
balloon in front of a mirror, the reflection of the balloon is the
Q: (L) The nonballoon is when the balloon switches off - but it does
it so fast
you are not aware of it - like a pulsation...? I mean, I am
A: You see, my dear, when you arrive at 4th density, then you will
Q: (L) Well, how in the heck am I supposed to get there if I can’t
A: Who says you have to “get it” before you get there?
Q: (L) Well, that leads back to: what is the wave going to do to
awareness? Because, if the wave is what “gets you there,” what makes
A: No. It is like this: After you have completed all your lessons in
grade,” where do you go?
Q: (L) So, it is a question of...
A: Answer, please.
Q: (L) You go to fourth grade.
A: Okay, now, do you have to already be in 4th grade in order to be
go there? Answer.
Q: (L) No. But you have to know all the 3rd density things...
A: Yes. More apropos: you have to have learned all of the lessons.
Q: (L) What kind of lessons are we talking about here?
A: Karmic and simple understandings.
Q: (L) What are the key elements of these understandings, and are
they fairly universal?
A: They are universal.
Q: (L) What are they?
A: We cannot tell you that.
Q: (L) Do they have to do with discovering the MEANINGS of the
symbology of 3rd density existence, seeing behind the veil... and
reacting to things according to choice? Giving each thing or person
or event its due?
A: Okay. But you cannot force the issue. When you have learned, you
Q: (L) I just want to make sure that I am doing the most I can do. I
don’t want to have to come back to 3rd density. If I can accelerate
things a little...
A: You cannot, so just enjoy the ride. Learning is fun!
Q: (L) Now, you told me research and meditate upon unstable gravity
waves. And, that once I understood this, quantum physics would be
perfectly clear to me, and basically everything would be perfectly
clear. Now, I have been struggling with this...
A: That is just the point, Laura! When it is a struggle, you are not
So stop struggling and meditate. i.e. enjoy the ride.
Q: (L) So, you
say that if I am struggling I am not doing it right. Well, I
struggled with myself to get out of my marriage, and that was and
still is a struggle. Was that an erroneous approach?
A: Yes, because all that happened would have happened anyway.
Q: (L) So, it was the wrong approach?
Q: (L) What was the right approach? Wait for him to choose to leave?
Q: (L) Well, at this point, I was brought to the point of death.
A: That is not the point, but yes, if you had not struggled to be
other than who you are while IN the relationship, and struggled to
make the relationship work every time it came to a point of
termination, it would have happened sooner.
Q: (L) When we went through the transcript to get some of the quoted
there was a sequence that came out: “Time caused alpha level
suffering.” Is there such a thing?
A: Maybe. Mix and match.
Q: (L) You mean in putting the words and phrases together?
A: Yes, but don’t struggle with it! You try too hard when you feel
others, this is why see: ISCNI, Lewis, Devin, and others...
Q: (L) So, you are saying that I should not do anything that makes
inside me feel compressed or denied...
A: Do without expectations. When you conform or change your behavior
expectation of creating a change in others, then you are expecting
So, do it. See what happens. But be patient and see what happens!
Q: (L) Okay, let me ask about a dream. Aletheia and I both had
before last. The nature of both dreams were very similar, although
the participants were different. Was this some sort of prophetic
A: Natural cycles caused psychic “link.”
Q: (L) You mean as in hormonal cycles?
A: Yes. And good night.
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July 14, 1996
Freddie, Laura, V, MM
Q: (L) I am just wondering if a lot of things are going to happen
that may not be necessarily multi-density, or ‘other density,’ in
the strictest of terms, but may in fact be simply actions of ‘human
agents’ of these beings on other densities. That it will not so much
be a ‘space invasion’ as more like the Nazis under the control of
4th density STS? Hello.
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where do you transmit from?
Q: (L) Has there been some participation in the discussion we have
A: Monitoring, not participation.
Q: (L) Would you care to comment, or shall we just ask our
A: Ask specific questions, as always.
Q: (L) Then let’s start with some basic things. First of all, I have
had some contact with a physicist who is interested in the material.
And, because of this, I was motivated to pick up a book I had read
many years ago about the German occupation of Poland, and there were
some very strange things said in this book, and some funny
synchronous numbers... It just seemed to be a prototype of the
present reality in global terms. My question is: is there some
synchronous implication between this contact, the reading of this
book when I was 11 years old, and the material we have received
through this source?
Q: (L) You have said that the Holocaust was basically a ‘practice
run’ for the ultimate space invasion. Is this invasion supposed to
take place as an actual ‘aliens invading the planet’ scenario, or...
A: Too many thought patterns at once. Step by step, please.
Q: (L) Let’s boil it down. Was Hitler’s agenda a practice run for a
A: Close. Was a “testing” of the will.
Q: (L) Whose will was being tested?
Q: (L) Me specifically, or the planet?
Q: (L) In terms of this scenario, is there some lesson that we can
learn about what may or may not occur through this book I have
A: Maybe, but suggest you learn to blend mosaic consciousness.
Q: (L) What is mosaic consciousness?
A: Thinking in internally spherical terms, rather than using linear
blank” approach. The whole picture is seen by seeing the whole
Q: (L) Well, I guess that is why I guess I get into so many thought
A: Picture yourself as being at the center of a mosaic.
Q: (MM) [Incomprehensible comment about mosaics being under repair
(L) Okay, I know what you are saying, but I just don’t think that
there is any way I can DO this!
A: Yes you can!
Q: (L) Okay. Okay. This whole situation, this Polish connection,
connection, the American and alien things, the soldier/Nephilim
thing, these are all manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing, am I
Q: (L) And some of the manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing are
people graduate or transition to 4th density, that their awareness
changes, everything changes, the playing field is leveled. So, what
happened in Germany was a ‘practice run’ but what is going to happen
is that the ‘playing field’ is going to be leveled, so it will not
be exactly the same scenario, is this a correct assessment?
A: Maybe. Alright, my dear, you want the facts, so we will give them
and hopefully you will comprehend. If not now, then when necessary
Fact number one: All there is is lessons. Fact two: this is one big
Fact three: Timing as you perceive it, is never, NEVER definite.
What is to happen, as you state it, is a ways off, and will not
occur until you have reached that point on the learning cycle, and
you are not close yet. Now ponder before more facts are given!!
Q: (L) Okay, this being one infinite school, and we all seem to be
wandering around in the darkness...
A: Fact five: The learning cycle is variable, and progress along it
determined by events and circumstances as they unfold.
Q: (L) So,
the events and circumstances of our lives, individually and
collectively, can indicate where we are on this learning cycle? And
we are asking to have things told to us, or revealed to us about
things which are, in themselves, the necessary lessons? And it would
be virtually useless to be told about them since they must be
A: Partly correct. If you want hints, then hints shall we give. But,
are looking for a “road map?,” forgetitski!!
Q: (L) Okay, we want some hints. And Ark wants some hints, too! He
wants to know if we can invent a tool that enhances free will?
A: No tool is needed because of facts 3, 4, and 5.
Q: (L) Ummm... So, when a person is being hypnotized and controlled
from outside, because that is the matter of concern we were
discussing earlier, they are hypnotized and controlled until they
learn to stop it?
Q: (L) So, using the analogy of the pig stye, they just have to
wallow in it and suffer until they have had enough?
A: Using your analogy of the bicycle: Is there a tool which makes it
for the child to learn how to ride the bicycle in order to know how
to ride it?!?
Q: (MM) Don’t you get more free will by assimilating knowledge?
A: Yes!! Yes!!
Q: (L) So, in other words, knowledge and awareness makes you aware
that you have free will, and also makes you aware of what actions
actually ARE acts of free will, and therefore, when you know or
suspect the difference between the lies and deception and truth,
then you are in a position to be in control of your life?
Q: (L) Ark also wants to ask... well, his problem is faith, as he
said it to me.
A: Faith comes also from knowledge, and as we have stated before...
knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all!!!!!
Q: (L) So, it is important to take each and every thing that is
being learned or analyzed, and take it completely apart and dig in
every direction around it, and even in related directions, to FULLY
ascertain that it is true? As C.S. Lewis said, knowledge is like a
rope... as long as you are using it to tie up a box, it doesn’t
matter whether it is perfect or not, but if you have to use it to
hang over a precipice, then it behooves you to make absolutely
certain that it is strong enough to support your weight.
Q: (L) Okay, Ark asks about this: “In 1979, Project Phoenix, with
the assistance of the Grays, was successful in producing a mind
amplifier.” Is this true?
Q: (L) Okay! That was pretty precise! Next: “Is it possible that,
under drug influence, psychics, or those with mental capabilities
above the norm, can be hooked up to some type of machine and are
enabled thereby to create some type of physical form?”
A: Possible. Now review: The “Greys” are cybergenetic probes of the
beings, so just exactly who is doing the assisting? And who is
behind the Lizard types?? Could it be your ancestors, perhaps!?!
Q: (L) It says here: “The fire within man that is characterized as
the secret that can be utilized. The secret to all things is
passion all things are possible. The amplification experiments of
Project have been explained as having amplified brain waves. In
amplified the passion of the subject. It was that ‘inner will’ of
that was amplified, that inner spirit within all of us is that
driving force is
manifested as electrical energy. Master that force and you cannot be
controlled, the universe is yours. Master the inner spirit and you
shall master the physical.” Comments please.
A: First things first: Who is doing the assisting? And how is the
Q: (L) Well, they say that the Grays are assisting the Consortium,
this is the Hopi material... Who is doing the assisting? Hmmmm...
give me a clue... I think that the Nordic aliens are controlling the
Lizards, who created the Grays, which are probes of the Lizards, and
are purportedly assisting the Consortium...
A: Assisting? Or maybe influencing?!? And if so, how so?!? And, is
not this the
whole point? Are you not ultimately influenced always?!? In
EVERYTHING you do? We have stated thus numerous times... So, please
let us not get off the track, okay?
Q: (L) In other words, as long as we are in the pigstye, we are in
the pigstye, and until we get OUT of it, we are IN it?
A: Until you reach that point on the learning cycle.
Q: (MM) What is this chemical they use with these psychics, per se,
is it the ‘akashic chemical?’
A: That information you refer to is false in its entirety!
Q: (L) So, that whole thing is false?
A: “Passion” does not set one “free,” quite the opposite!
Q: (L) But what if your passion is for knowledge?
A: That is not passion, it is soul questing.
Q: (L) What is it that gives some people this drive, this
steamroller effect that they are determined to get to the absolute
bottom of everything and strip away every lie until there is nothing
left but the naked truth? What is the source of this desire?
A: Wrong concept. It is simply that one is at that point on the
At that point, no drive is needed.
Q: (L) So, you more or less are there because some critical mass has
been reached that ‘jumps’ you to the point where seeking truth is
simply who you are? It defines the parameters of your being.
Are these learning cycles similar to the layers... all over the
earth, remember the red dust all over the earth?
Q: (L) Is it more like a 360 degree circle, and each person is a
different point on the circle, and the whole thing cycles, and you
never change relative to the people behind and in front of you, and
the only real thing you can do to help anyone is to move the circle
by moving yourself, thereby pushing the one ahead of you up, and
pulling the one behind you into your previous place? And where you
are on the cycle determines what you do?
A: It is a single cycle, yes. There is only one learning cycle, and
are upon it, determines your EXPERIENCES, and vice versa.
Q: (L) Is
there ever any point where lines connect from one point on the cycle
so that you can ‘jump’ from one point to another? Like a wormhole in
space or something?
A: Refer to facts 1 and 2 and 3.
Q: (L) So, no short cuts?
A: Now, refer to 3,4 and 5.
Q: (L) So, certain events and circumstances could help a person to
A: No “leap,” acceleration.
Q: (L) One thing, previously when we were talking about unstable
and I asked what caused them to become unstable, you said
‘utilization,’ and that STO was dispersion, and STS was ‘collection’
of gravity. I have made a few conjectures about this and would like
to ask, does this mean that in giving to others, even if what you
are giving is a withholding of assistance because you know that
assistance would only prolong the lesson, is dispersing gravity, and
exerting mental or other control over others, even if one is unaware
that they are attaching energy drains to another, is collecting
Q: (L) So, when you collect gravity, you become like a black hole,
you cave in
Q: (L) And it seems to me that one of the objects of what we are
doing is releasing the gravity collected in ourselves?
A: If that is your choice, or if that is your path.
Q: (L) Is choice as intimately connected with the path as I am
Is it just simply part of how you are configured in your soul
Q: (L) And there are people for whom STS is simply their choice. It
is their path.
Q: (L) So, it is a judgment and a disservice to try to convert
someone to your path, even if you perceive the end result of the
path they are on, that it leads to dissolution? It is still their
Q: (L) And, if you send ‘buckets of love and light’ to such a one,
and that is their path, you are violating their free will?
A: You might as well send “buckets” of vomit as that is how they
Q: (MM) Why send anything? Just be neutral?
A: Judgment is STS.
Q: (L) You told us before that stars and planets are portals, or
openings into other densities. Is it possible that this oncoming
wave, this Realm Border Crossing will be accessed through these
types of portals, that it is not something that is actually in our
‘space,’ but that it would emanate through stars and planets? Am I
onto something here?
A: You may be starting down a long path.
Q: (L) So, it is complex. When I was re-reading Noah...
A: Just remember: All prophecies attached to calendar dates are
you wish to be sucked up by the 4th density STS forces!
Speaking of being sucked up by 4th density STS forces, MM was told
by her local Hindu gathering that she was vacuuming up their
energies. What kind of an interaction was this? Why were they so
A: Because they wished to be worshipped.
Q: (L) They wished to suck her energy, because being worshipped is
the equivalent of sucking energy?
Q: (L) Now, I am curious about the doggie image that was on the aura
photo that MM took?
A: In these times, 2nd density creatures will collect more and more
Q: (L) Are these attachments like other entities?
A: Yes, and others.
Q: (L) When they are collecting these attachments, are they
collecting them from
us, as in protecting?
Q: (L) Are they being used to collect attachments to be detrimental
Q: (L) You mean we are going to have to do depossessions on our dogs,
A: That won’t work.
Q: (L) Why are our animals picking up attachments?
A: Because of vibrational frequency intensifications.
Q: (L) Is there something we could do? I mean, are we supposed to
get rid of
A: We would never suggest something as harsh as this. However,
density STS orientation includes the thought of “dominion” over 2nd
density, and this is merely a continuation of the energy buildups of
the approach of the wave... Some of the lessons are interesting
indeed. When you assume that capture and imprisonment of those of
lesser capacity than you is for “the good,” why should not you
expect those of greater capacity than you to assume the same
Q: (MM) Well, I want to know what is the deal with this portal in my
A: Before we discuss that, we would like you to ponder further the
given responses. We suspect there is much to be gained from insights
lurking there. Now: Portals... ionic column... hmmm...
Q: (V) Are portals archetypal?
A: Are they? Hmmm....
Q: (MM) So, my column is an ionic column?
(L) I don’t think that is
exactly what they mean. I think that they are saying that an ionic
column represents a portal into the next density. It is an
A: Third density facsimile.
Q: (V) So, this is how we choose to see it with our eyes?
think they mean that it is a representation, that it follows in its
form the 4th density form, only it is material here.
A: And 5th density, etc...
Q: (L) Okay, MM’s portal. She has been experimenting with it, with
this trans-density transceiver...
A: No, she does not have a trans-density transceiver, she has a
Q: (L) What is the function of a portal presence?
A: Function is not the correct concept.
Q: What is it?
A: The presence of a portal.
Q: (L) Is this portal that is present related to any person in her
house, or related to the area.
A: It is.
Q: (L) Which.
A: It just is.
Q: (L) Was it there before she moved there?
A: That is not important.
Q: (L) What is important?
A: Ask yourself that. Awareness.
Q: (L) On the one hand you could think it is a good thing and be
wrong, and on the other hand you could think it is a bad thing, and
miss a good thing?
A: Learning is fun.
Q: (MM) I’m getting ready to work with it in meditation. But, I have
been working with it and finding out more about it, and I was just
A: Hey lady, don’t you get it yet?
Q: (V) Who is ‘hey lady?’ It must be me...
Q: (V) That is very odd?
(MM) I was wondering if it goes to other
A: Yes, but so what? This does too.
Q: (L) Why was this portal represented by a completely different
Q: (L) Is she supposed to channel through this portal?
A: The portal is not “importaltent!”
Q: (L) I guess that implies intent... The portal is not important,
what is important is what is going on inside you. And only you can
A: On that note, Good Night.
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