November 25, 1995
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Okay, we have some questions for tonight...
A: What, no greeting?
Q: (L) Hello, how are you?
A: Fine, thank you, how are you?
Q: (L) We are fine. A little bit frazzled, but I am sure you are
aware of that.
Q: (L) In terms of this frazzled state, would you care to address
that or do we need to ask questions?
A: Who are we?
Q: (L) Sorry. Who do we have with us tonight?
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L)Getting back to the subject, should we ask questions, or do
you have something to address to the issue?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) I would like for you to address the issue in a general way.
A: Learning can be a painstaking task.
Q: (L) Yeah. It is painful! We have been really learning. And one of
the things we have been learning is that some people are sometimes
detrimental to the process here. Can you comment on this?
A: Those you refer to must learn what they must learn.
Q: (L) They are on their own learning path.
A: As are all others.
Q: I don’t have any bad feelings about any of it, but at the same
time, I am not emotionally equipped for turmoil just now. I have
enough of my own. I was curious if AB was planning on pursuing the
issue of channeling on his own or in company with T&J?
Q: (L) AB has said that he can only validate material such as this
by bringing it in himself, and T&J seem to be of the same mind at
the moment. Will they be able to connect in a similar way?
A: They will channel that which their frequency vibrational level
Q: (L) Okay. Enough on that.
(F) I am just curious as to how long
this experiment will last? But, that is probably unimportant.
will last as long as it lasts and not a minute longer!
A: If you wish, you may maintain contact, and ask for updates in a
informative way. The results will amuse you, if nothing else.
Enough. The other day I experienced one of those extended pre-sleep
states, and it seemed that I was in a class and there was someone
explaining things to me. What they were telling me was that during
this Christmas season, certain steps would be taken by those
controlling the economy, and that after Christmas, in January and
February, a whole lot of stuff was going to be put into motion to
send the economy into a dive of major proportions. It was not clear
that it was THIS year, but that it was right after Christmas. Can
you tell me where this information was coming from, and what was I
A: This is a long and complicated subject, but we will do our best
it. What you were seeing was one possible future. The economy of our
3rd density world is entirely manufactured. The forces that control
it are both 3rd density and 4th density. There are conflicting
opinions in the 3rd density sector right now as to when, where, and
how to institute an economic depression. This has been “in the
works” for quite some “time” as you measure it. So far, the forces
arguing against institution of a collapse have prevailed. How long
this condition will be maintained is open to many outcomes. Also,
please be aware that the state of the economy is entirely an
illusion. In other words, the world economy performs solely based
upon what the population is told to believe.
Q: (L) Well, that is all fine and good except for one fact that I
have been observing lately, and that is that prices continue to go
up, and wages for the average person do not. I watch prices, and
they have been jumping in a very erratic and frightening way. I know
for a fact that people simply cannot afford to live. A large segment
of the population cannot, that is.
A: Nobody who obeys the “rules” can afford to “live,” but if you
refuse to play
the game as you are told to, you will do quite well, indeed.
Q: (L) Okay. What do you mean by not playing by the rules? What
A: The best way for us to answer that is for you to think out loud,
for our responses.
Q: (S) Rule one would be working at a regular job, 9 to 5, or 40
hours, whichever, and saving all your money and putting it in the
A: Wait, one at a time.
Q: (L) Okay. The first one is that you have to have a “regular job.”
A: “Trap” number one!
Q: (S) Rule number two is that you have to save your money.
A: You save your money by multiplying it, not storing it.
Q: (L) Are you saying that putting it in a bank is “storing” it?
Q: (L) Are you saying that money is only “saved” if it is
A: Yes. When you store it in the bank, you are helping the
Illuminati AKA Antichrist multiply it for itself, all you get is the
“crumbs” left over. And, the Antichrist can “call it in” anytime it
Q: (L) One of the most popular ways to make money by
investing is in the stock market. But, it seems to me that the stock
market is also part of the Antichrist system and investing there
would also amount to only getting “crumbs.”
A: Yes and no. Not all stocks traded publicly are under direct
control of the
Q: (L) Are you suggesting the stock market as a means of multiplying
A: We are not suggesting anything specific, we are just laying the
With the general clues we give you, you will figure out the details
yourselves, which is tantamount to learning, which is how you
progress as souls.
Q: (L) You said we should multiply our money and
that storing it is not making it work for you....
A: If you notice, all successful business people do this. They
multiply their money, expand their horizons, continuously. They multiply their
money by multiplying their output, thus their intake likewise. And
the process is never ending, because they understand instinctively
that it is part of a cycle. For the intake to continue, it must not
be only retained, but must increase in order to keep pace with the
ever spiraling cycle of increase and expansion. And, for this to
happen, the output must be expanded accordingly. When it stops, it
collapses. And this is how the Illuminati AKA The Brotherhood AKA
The Antichrist creates a “Panic,” by stemming the flow, even only
slightly, and then broadcasting the created impression aggressively.
Q: (S) Well, investing is fine if you have money, but Laura and
Freddie don’t have any money to invest. What would be a way for them
to do this?
A: One example would be to share their experiences, insights, and
One way to replicate such would be to publish, for example.
Q: (L) I
know you are 6th density light beings and we are just 3rd density
humans, and it is hard for us to continue what we are doing when
under constant attack from all directions, internally and
externally. I don’t see how we can tell about all these experiences
without risking further problems.
A: The work has not been stopped and will not be. You have been told
publishing all or parts of your work is merely “a phone call away,”
but, as of yet, you have not had faith in that statement, and you
have problems asking for what you want for fear of creating the
wrong “impression,” which is in your head and also a part of the
attack process. We have lead you to this position, but you know what
they say: “You can lead a horse to water...”
Q: (L) Phone call? Let
me say that I have sent out piles of material and talked to people
until I am perfectly exhausted. YOU tell me who to call and I will
be happy to do it!
A: You have expended an enormous amount of energy communicating with
sources, but most of these are fruitless. Now, think, who was it
that told you how to get published???
Q: (L) I have talked to Ken Eaglefeather, talked to Roxanne, sent
sections of manuscript... what more am I supposed to do?
A: As we said, you have a problem approaching the situation
example, say: “I want to be published, please help me get it
Q: (F) How?
A: We have told you to network!! This works wonders!!! When you
they get filed in the “circular file.” Ask those who have been
published how they did it and how to do it. Don’t be afraid of
Q: (L) Well, publishing still seems like a distant
A: No. Ask Valerian. Ask him to help you get published, point blank,
around the bush. He will be very receptive if you offer him a “cut
of the action.” In fact, that is what he is waiting for!
Q: (L) Okay. That takes care of Freddie and me, what about Sue?
A: Susan is part of the picture for as long as she wishes to be.
End of Session
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December 2, 1995
Q: (L) Hello, is anyone there? Do you still love us?
A: Silly Billy!
Q: (L) Well, sometimes one needs a little reassurance! Who do we
have with us tonight?
A: Rommolah Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) As you know, T&J were here last night and I felt a lot of
very strange sensations, as though there were something very dark
that came in with them. My stomach was actually hurting. What is
Q: (L) Is there some negative energy there?
A: Is chided.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: As your learning center library.
Q: (L) Okay, the dictionary says: to scold, to reprove mildly. Who
is scolding him?
A: These are the circumstances unfolding.
Q: (L) The circumstances unfolding are going to chide him or are in
the act of chiding him?
A: The latter.
Q: (L) Well, I sort of felt an energy that was NOT him, but that was
following him and came in with him. I even thought I heard it say:
A: If attached, it is a “fluid” situation.
Q: (L) Well, they were both talking about plans to start another
channeling group with AB and then another still after they move
away, because they are talking about moving to Tallahassee. So,
obviously they do not now, nor does it seem that they ever had any
intentions of being permanent group members. Or did I misunderstand?
Q: (L) Well, I am sorry that they feel this way. I have essentially
prepared all my life to do this, and so has Freddie. They have
helped a lot.
A: Group would have too many chiefs and not enough indians.
Q: (L) Now, this situation going on with RC has made me think that I
ought to decline editing her magazine. Any comment?
A: Beware not to misread. RC is strongly influenced in her behavior
by biological cycles.
Q: (L) So, I should just let it pass?
Q: (L) Well, I thought the magazine was a good idea...
A: Let the “flow” guide you in decisions regarding your actions.
Q: (L) That is pretty much what I try to do. Well, if RC is being
biology, and Terry is being chided, what is happening to me? I mean,
dumped on by one, and then less than 12 hours later I get dumped on
other, and then my husband dumps on me on top of all of it and it is
just more than I can handle.
A: Suggest ventilation of room. Ionizing factors level balance.
Q: (L) [Open windows] Do the ionizing factors have anything to do
with the people who have been in this room in the past few days?
A: All connects. You may close the windows later for comfort after
Q: (L) When we did the session on October 21st, we were talking
about robotoid type people, or reanimated humans, and that this is
what is done rather than cloning and replacing. Then you said I had
been in contact with 7 of these, and we identified one of them.
Then, we talked about profiles, and it was indicated that a “bland”
personality might have something to do with identification. You also
said that you could not identify the others right at that moment.
Can you now do so?
A: Search your “files.” Learning is sometimes best accomplished by
Q: (L) Can I have a couple more clues as to what I am looking for?
You mentioned being in a hospital...
A: Non-emotive. There are other clues which you can discover by your
It would not be advantageous for us to give you further information
on this subject. Speculation about this particular subject will
throw you off track.
Q: (L) Is the subject as important as I think
it might be?
A: Ultimately, but not yet!!
Q: (L) I did an interview that was taped and broadcast on a local
television station. I am curious as to whether that will lead to any
further similar activity?
A: Like a pot on rising boil.
Q: (L) Let’s get off the personal things and onto interesting
A: Thank you!
Q: (L) Did the Germans construct a time machine during WWII?
Q: (L) They actually did it?
Q: (L) Were the German experiments in time travel carried to the
U.S. after the war?
A: In splintered form.
Q: (L) Did the U.S. take possession of a time machine constructed by
Q: (L) Why not?
A: Was taken elsewhere.
Q: (L) Where?
A: Mausenberg, Neufriedland.
Q: (L) Still in Germany?
Q: (L) Where is Mausenberg?
Q: (L) Who is in control of or running this machine?
A: Klaus Grimmschackler.
Q: (L) I didn’t mean a specific person, a group. Americans or
Q: (L) Did they use this machine to transport themselves there and
also in time?
A: Has been performed in Glophen in gestalt, bit, yie aire das
werstalt de vir seinderfor bidde.
Q: (L) Why are you giving this so that we don’t understand?
A: Sorry, got the transmissions mixed up due to subject matter.
Q: (L) Getting back to this German time machine: did the Germans
capture a crashed, or retrieve a crashed, UFO during the war?
Q: (L) Who was flying that craft - excuse me - OPERATING that craft?
Q: (L) Were the Germans able to back engineer and construct other
to the one they captured?
A: Did not need to. They got the information on such things from
Q: (L) Did the Germans get the information from the Vril Society?
A: Partly. Also Thule Society.
Q: (L) These individuals who have this time machine in Antarctica,
what are they doing with it or what do they plan to do with it?
A: Exploring time sectors through loop of cylinder.
Q: (L) What is a loop of cylinder?
A: Complex, but is profile in 4th through 6th density.
Q: (L) Are there any particular goals that they have in doing this
A: Not up to present, as you measure it.
Q: (L) Well, if they escaped and took this time machine to
Antarctica, are they working with any of the so-called “aliens?”
A: 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Are these Germans and their time machine, any part of the
plan to take over earth when it moves into 4th density.
Q: (L) Are the Germans behind any of the conspiracies in the U.S?
Q: (L) So there is a maverick German element, but to focus on that
as being the foundational aspect of this phenomenon, is to focus on
the wrong thing?
Q: (L) Among the things that were discussed among the Germans in the
Thule Society and the Vril Society, was the “Black Sun That
Illuminates the Interior.” Can you tell us what this “Black Sun” is?
A: Ultimate destiny of STS orientation.
Q: (L) Is this Black Sun an actual astronomical phenomenon?
A: In essence.
Q: (L) What would we know this Black Sun as? A black hole?
A: Good possibility.
Q: (L) A little off to the side, but is there any Japanese
A: Only to extent of level of participation in “secret” world
Q: (L) Terry has a theory that the United States that the U.S. is so
greatly in debt to the Japanese, and that they are going to default
on their obligation and cause the Japanese government to fail, and
that the Japanese and some others are going to be played as the “bad
guys,” once again, as they were in WWII. Is this a plan in the
Q: (L) Why did the X-Files have an implied Japanese experimental
conspiracy blamed for the UFO/alien activity in the United States?
Why are they presenting the Japanese as the Bad Guys?
A: Remember, the “X-Files” has a fictional basis.
Q: (L) I saw a film at RC’s house last month where very strange
UFO’s were seen, and she called them Merkabahs. They were like
gigantic, translucent, living creatures - sort of like jelly fish -
and they would appear and fade... what were these things?
A: 6th density manifestations through realm precursor wave influence
Q: (L) It seemed that the person who was filming these things could
literally call them up. How was he able to do that?
A: Magnetic trine of locopoints on grid matrix interact with thought
Q: (L) Does this mean that there is something extraordinary about
A: Just from subconscious parallel transformation standpoint.
Q: (L) Is there some way we could manifest one of these critters if
we wanted to?
A: Would be exceedingly difficult, as loco-matrix is not currently
Q: (L) So, it is partly a function of location, a grid, if you will?
Q: (L) Speaking of that, RC wants to move to Sedona, and she says
that one of reasons she wants to do this is because “Florida is low
density,” in her opinion, and “Lizzieland,” and full of negative
entities and energies. Is this an accurate assessment?
A: What do you think?
Q: (L) Well, I sometimes wonder... I am sure I could be a better
A: All could always be better, but judgements made in haste as an
reaction to events, and generalized in nature, are bound to be rife
with emotionally induced prejudice.
Q: (L) Does this mean that it is possible that she is jumping out of
the frying pan into the fire by moving off to “alienland” out there
in the SouthWest?
A: Of course! As you well know!
Q: (L) I feel sorry that she feels this way, and that she is
possibly putting herself into danger because she does not seem to be
thinking clearly right now, and there does not seem to be anything I
can do or say. She is just adamant that Florida is a horrible place
because of what happened to her here. In a way, I feel insulted.
A: Use your instincts to guide you in your associations.
Q: (L) Now, switching gears: while watching the alien autopsy film,
we saw a massive organ that occupies the whole center of the
abdominal cavity. What was that?
Q: (L) (S) A combination of both in one?
Q: (L) They also carefully removed a solid or hard object which they
then put in a small container. What was this object?
A: Crystal transceiver.
Q: (L) What was all the loose matter?
A: Organic tissue. Not important.
Q: (L) Was it a female or a male?
A: Both and neither.
Q: (L) Was it a being that could reproduce sexually?
Q: (L) What kind of nourishment was required by that being?
A: Saline gelatin globules.
Q: (L) Did it eat as we do, through the mouth?
Q: (L) What? What is that?
A: Applications using biological microforms to metastasize through
Q: (L) Did that being use oxygen as in breathing?
Q: (L) Where were the lungs?
A: Side of torsal cavity.
Q: (L) I have read about a species of Gray aliens that are VERY tall
and have “rows of teeth.” I assume that this means more than one row
of teeth. What are they?
A: Biogenetic constructs.
Q: (L) You said once before that there was 16 species or groups on
both sides of the “conflict” on the planet. That is, STS and STO.
Have we known or experienced any interactions with other so called
A: Not as of yet.
Q: (L) Can you tell me anything about young Dom, who seems to be
surprisingly well-informed for one so young?
A: Discovery and observation, bearing in mind previous learnings in
Q: (L) Who and what are the Mantid type beings that were seen in
Mexico and purportedly caught on film?
Q: (L) Where are they from?
Q: (L) What are they here for?
A: Interraction study, are project of Minturians, as they resemble
profile. Is study to determine compatibility with 3rd density
Q: (L) They are trying to learn if they can manifest on Earth?
A: After realm border crossing.
Q: (L) Just when is this realm border crossing going to happen?
Q: (L) I tried! Now, tell me about Val.
A: Learn through active pursuit of contact and observation.
Q: (L) Do you think he would ever come to a session?
Q: (L) This year the UFO conference in Gulf Breeze is in the Spring.
Is this the one we are supposed to go to?
Q: (L) Why is my husband being such a jerk lately? I know that is a
personal question, but I can’t handle the stress.
A: Jerk is subjective.
Q: (L) I know. But I need some advice.
A: Just combine spiritual resources... and Good Night!
End of Session
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December 12, 1995
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L) I am sorry but I have some personal questions tonight before
we get started with other things. I would like to know what is the
reason for this terrible depression I have been experiencing for so
long now. I am sick of it.
A: It is a crushing attack.
Q: (L) Where is it coming from?
A: 4th density STS.
Q: (L) What can I do to break it before it breaks me?
Q: (L) By what? How do you conteract the things that are just beyond
my ability to deal with?
A: How is the attack represented in 3rd density for you?
Q: (L) How? Because it seems that my husband does not love me. I do
not feel safe or in any way able to function as a wife and mother
with this feeling, and I know that it must be a misperception on my
part, but I cannot help but feel this way. How can I get over this
feeling that he is constantly trying to break me into pieces? Not
only do I have to bear the constant burden of the children with no
support, the house, managing everything, but I also am continuously
sniped at by him. None of my feelings are ever considered. I feel
like I am being shoved over and buried by a bulldozer. Is that what
you want to know?
A: You are diverting by secession.
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: What is the definition of “to secede?”
Q: (L) To leave a union. To step out. To break a union.
A: Attack is not countered by following objectives of attack.
Q: (L) What are the objectives of this attack aside from crushing
A: Secession at an inappropriate juncture to throw plans askew.
Q: (L) What plans would be thrown askew by secession at this point?
Q: (L) What?
A: And all other.
Q: (L) Well, I just feel that I would plunge into a pit if I had to
secede, as you put it.
A: Suggest ignoring “snipes” and other unpleasantness, as it is not
being, thus should not be taken “to heart,” and when taken thusly,
causes emotional disturbances which manifests as depression and
related maladies. These ailments tend to grow in scope and
intensity, thereby causing severe damage to plans and activities
aimed at executing ones “mission.”
Q: (L) That’s all fine and good.
But, just exactly what is the mission?
A: You are awakening to it just fine, thank you!
Q: (L) Are you saying that all this constant discussing and taking
things apart and talking about them and thinking about all these
things is actually getting us somewhere?
Q: (L) Well, let’s get on with the questions. Is the magazine or
some other mode of getting information out part of this “mission?”
A: When you have learned, you have energized yourself.
Q: (L) What does that mean in relation to the question?
A: Lead by the hand? No way, Jose‘!
Q: (L) Freddie and I discussed a name for the magazine last night
and we came up with - and who knows how - Aurora to symbolize the
dawn, waking up... that sort of thing. Where in the world did this
A: Refer to the previous 2 answers.
Q: (L) Any comments?
A: No need, you are doing just fine by yourselves.
Q: (L) (S) What did you expect them to say? “Atta girl!?” [laughter]
Will the magazine support itself?
A: We are not going to answer that as it would violate level one
Q: (L) What is a “level one directive?”
A: Refer to last answer.
Q: (L) Well, fine! I want to know! Is there some place that gives
A: You will know when it is right, and not before!
Q: (L) I want you guys to know that I sometimes feel a wee tiny bit
like a pawn on a chessboard!
A: You should, you inhabit 3rd density STS environment.
Q: (L) I was at least hoping that if I was a pawn, that some of the
players were good guys. Is that asking too much?
Q: (L) To which statement?
A: Good guys don’t play chess.
Q: (L) But there have been so many strange events, so many
Is that the good guys helping or the bad guys leading me astray?
A: Neither. It is Nature running its course.
Q: (L) Okay. One of the sensations I have experienced is that I have
had it up to the eyebrows with the negative energies and experiences
of 3rd density, and I have thought lately that this feeling of
having had enough, in an absolute sense, is one of the primary
motivators for wanting to find one’s way out of this trap we are in.
I want out of it. Is this part of this “nature” as you call it?
Q: (L) When a group of people...
A: When you see the futility of the limitations of 3rd density life,
you are ready to graduate. Notice those who wallow in it.
Some people obviously wallow in extreme materiality. And there seems
to be another kind that is more subtle, which has to do with saying
that you want to grow and become enlightened, and yet such a person
is unable to pierce the veil of their own illusions about how to
become enlightened, and this illusion is the wallowing...
A: Wallowing takes many forms.
Q: (L) Among the things I have noticed is the type of person who
says: “This is my LAST life! Swami So-and-so told me!” And they are
wallowing in the enjoyment of the adulation they receive from their
followers who believe that sort of thing can be known.
A: Sometimes, but avoid stereotyping, because sometimes they are
Q: (L) Okay. I am not trying to stereotype.
A: More often, the sign is someone who does not feel alienated by
traps and limitations of 3rd density.
Q: (L) Well, that says a lot. One of the questions on the list is:
In many of the Sumerian drawings and literature, the gods, the
Annunaki, are described as eating a plant that grew at the bottom of
the ocean, and this plant was the source of eternal life.
A: Nonsense! The source of eternal life is existance!
Q: (L) Well, the point was that there was some sort of food that
these beings ate that was unusual or different that somehow enhanced
their abilities to an extreme degree...
A: Totally false and you should know it!! All so-called “special
from non-physical sources!!!
Q: (L) Carlos Castaneda talks about the “Eagle’s emanations,” the
Eagle being, I suppose, Prime Creator that emanates down through all
the densities, and that the Nagual who can “see,” sees the Eagle as
a large black and white object. Are they seeing the source, or are
they seeing something on just another density?
A: Source? There is no such thing.
Q: (L) You mean there is no Prime Creator, no origin or source of
A: You are Prime Creator.
Q: (L) But that is so esoteric... I am talking about...
A: The point is: stop filling your consciousness with monotheistic
planted long ago to imprison your being. Can’t you see it by now,
after all you have learned, that there is no source, there is no
leader, there is no basis, there is no overseer, etc... You
literally possess, within your consciousness profile, all the power
that exists within all of creation!?! You absolutely have all that
exists, ever has, or ever will, contained within your mind. All you
have to do is learn how to use it, and at that moment, you will
literally, literally, be all that is, was, and ever will be!!!!!!!!
Q: (L) That is all fine and dandy and sounds wonderful, except for
one little item. You also say that the monotheistic concepts were
IMPOSED on us to prevent us from knowing this. So, if we are all
that is, how can something exist that can impose something so
unpleasant on us?
A: Choices follow desire based imbalances.
Q: (L) If that is the case, why can’t any one just turn off the
lights, end the illusion, and everything becomes nothing?
A: Well, first of all, everything does not become nothing. Secondly,
already become everything.
Q: (L) Terrific! And I understand that we are digging our way out of
this particular illusion. And that is rather profound a thing to say
to someone still stuck in the mire. I really want to find out, but
it is hard. I have to think about that for a while. So, let me ask
some questions for my daughter. A__ wants to know what the core of
Jupiter consists of?
A: Basal. In 3rd density it is known as
Q: (L) What is the diameter of the solid core?
A: 3 microns.
Q: (L) Are you saying that Jupiter is gassy and slushy all the way
Q: (L) So Sitchen and others may not be correct in saying that
Jupiter has an earth sized solid core?
A: If that is what they are saying , but remember, Jupiter, Saturn
resonate to vibrational levels greater than Earth. You are looking
directly at density 4 when you view Jupiter, which is why photos of
it from up close appear “surreal,” more like drawings.
Q: (L) Do beings inhabit Jupiter?
A: 5th density and up.
Q: (L) Are there any organic beings on Jupiter?
A: Organic is 3rd density concept.
Q: (L) So the probe will not detect any life?
Q: (L) Is this probe that is going to plunge into Jupiter disturb
anything there in any way?
Q: (L) What is the internal 3rd density temperature of Jupiter?
A: 7000 degrees K.
Q: (L) What is the primary chemical composition?
A: Ammonia, hydrogen and nitrous oxide.
Q: (L) There is a rumor going around that a large object coming our
way, that is a gigantic, intelligently controlled space craft,
loaded with Lizzies. Could you comment on this please?
A: Comet cluster.
Sitchin believes it is a “planet.”
Q: (L) In terms of this comet cluster, how many bodies are in this
cluster as a discrete unit?
Q: (L) What is the ETA?
Q: (L) Why is it open? Why can’t we look at it and determine the
factors, the direction, trajectory, velocity...
A: If you could, you would be interrupted in your learning cycle.
Q: (L) What exactly does THAT mean?
(F) Because you would never do
anything else because all you would think about is the day the comet
(L) Well, speaking of that, I have had 3 death dreams and
Freddie has had one. I would like to inquire about them.
A: No comment. And Good Night.
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December 16, 1995
Freddie, Laura, SV
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) (L) I am slightly inebriated, in case you guys can’t guess
Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L) Of course we realize that this is just the point of
transmission and that you don’t LIVE there... Now, first of all...
A: Pretty bracelet.
Q: (L) Well! Thank you! Jason made it for me. My little son made it
out of Christmas ribbon.
Q: (L) Of course we know he is not LITTLE, but he is still my little
baby. My first question is about the economic situation we have
discussed before. All the things we have discussed among ourselves
about this, relating to what was given about the economy before,
could you tell us whether our views are at all accurate?
A: Accuracy is relative to juncture with possible futures.
Q: (L) We know there are several possible futures, but we think that
a particular one is becoming more likely...
A: Refer to two sessions ago for answer to this.
Q: (L) We are still dealing with this by eliminating the myths,
whether or not
there is going to be an economic collapse we think that creative
financial management is the way to go...
Q: (L) Using these ideas, is S going to be able to manage her
resources so that she has a higher return?
A: Yes. S is an innocent person when it comes to areas of investment
finance. Her current status was arrived at as the result of consults
with others who did not necessarily have her best interests in mind!
Q: (L) (S) I just want to be sure that if anything happens to my mom
that I will be able to take care of her.
A: Move mother into living will. Does she wish to be kept alive by
Q: (L) (S) Definitely not.
(L) Is that all for S?
A: Not yet. T Bills, commodities market, registered CD’s,
to conservation companies, such as offshoots of TRW and Georgia
Pacific, etc. Do it now!!! Get some silver too, and liquidate
remainder. Suggest 20 per cent in the form of new 100 dollar bills
for safekeeping, the new currency only!! February 1996 bills issue.
Place into safe along with silver.
Q: (L) How much in silver?
A: Up to her, also suggest a novelty gold coin or two.
Q: (L) (F) What commodities?
A: Grain futures and pork bellies best. Pork and other swine
Q: (L) You said that my life would be straightened out and that this
would happen through the internet. In fact, you said that my life
would change suddenly and drastically...
Q: (L) Yet, all I have experienced has been the most oppressive
internal and external attack imaginable...
A: Benefits follow oppressiveness, what is it that you tell to
darkness always precedes the dawn!
Q: (L) Well, I don’t know which way to turn. I am not in a position
to do anything about any of it just now.
A: Ask for help, silly!
Q: (L) I don’t like to ask for help.
A: You have to.
Q: (L) That reminds me: Freddie shouted at me tonight.
shouted at me, too!
(L) I didn’t shout at you! And you shouted at me
(F) I said I was sorry. And so did you. You forgot about it
for a while. Why sulk now?
(L) Because I want to sulk! Okay, we have
taken care of S, and we have decided to just let Laura suffer in the
Q: (L) What about Freddie’s situation?
A: Soon to improve.
Q: (L) I ran into PZ, can you comment?
A: Keep in touch with her, lest she “wane” in your regard.
Q: (L) I received an e-mail from a fellow who experienced something
similar to what happened to me which you called an “eclipsing of
A: It was an abduction by cybergenetic probes whose origin, or more
“station,” is the 5th planet around Betelgeuse, known as A.Hur in
Orion federation 4th density STS.
Q: (L) What was the purpose of this abduction?
A: Screen for compatibility for placement on shune, platter, within
Q: (L) What does that mean? Placement on “shune, platter?
A: It is a demarcation status for compatibility of future “worker”
Q: (L) So, “shune” is a word used for that?
A: Close. Ask P if he has had headaches and or blackouts.
Q: (L) Was my experience the same thing?
A: No. It is the “same” from your view point only.
Q: (L) Is there any advice I can give P?
A: Tell him to keep in touch with you for more information.
Q: (L) Why haven’t I heard from Val?
A: “Push buttons” more. Ask for more contact. Time to go. Good
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December 30, 1995
Freddie, Laura, SV
[The majority of this tape was indecipherable due to a constant
static that drowned out most of the words. This is the best
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us?
Q: (L) And where are you from?
Q: (L) We have a number of questions we want to cover tonight. The
first thing is, in the early stages of this channeling process we
talked about what is was we were supposed to be doing. We were told
that the first thing we needed to do was “establish a clear
channel.” Obviously, it has taken about a year to do that. I have
wondered, after numerous incidents, if it might not be better for us
to stop having guests at the sessions, and to simply work in a
private way and then pass the information out to others. Would this
help to maintain the clarity of the channel?
Q: (L) Which part is correct?
A: Suitable “third party” on board is helpful.
Q: (L) Well, aside from someone to take the notes, who would be the
“suitable” third party on the board? Since Terry and Jan have
decided to start another channel with Andrew and Jan, and have even
talked about moving to Tallahassee and starting a group there...?
A: Up to you to discover.
Q: (L) The next thing that was identified that we must do was to
establish a “forum.” What is this forum supposed to be in?
A: These are all questions to which you must discover the answers by
therefore, no further discussion is now beneficial.
Q: (L) Now the next thing was that a direction would open and that
there was something amazing and wonderful just around the corner
that I would recognize instantly and which would help me to know
what to do. Has this already occurred and did I miss something?
A: Wait and see.
Q: (L) In one session, I asked what was the internal motivation
inside me and you responded “to be a leader of your cause.” Well, my
motivation then and now, as I understand it, is to find truth and
share it with those who ask for it, and to do this in a rather quiet
and private way.
A: Leaders come in a variety of “packages.”
Q: (L) I was recently invited to give a talk to the ISCNI, that is,
the Institute for the Study of Contact with Non- human Intelligence.
I am rather curious as to the reaction of the head of this
organization, Mike Lindemann? Was he shocked by some of the things I
A: Intrigued would be more accurately descriptive, but nonetheless,
and the others would best serve the “cause” if they loosen any
rigidities that they may have found themselves “grooving into,” as
this is an area that definitely does not lend itself to
manifestations of rigidity in any way, shape, or form, whatsoever!!!
Q: (L) I think they are getting a little rigid because they are
from the scientific community and they feel they have to prove
observable elements of the phenomenon of aliens have gone so far
that trying to
prove anything scientifically becomes moot. We don’t have time for
double-blind experiments. We don’t have time to wait for FDA
approval! Based upon the energies surrounding the subject, is
Lindemann going to respond.
A: Make him do so. Persist and express the same thoughts you did
him and others to see that they are dealing with a phenomenon that
is better studied in a way that stresses an open learning forum, not
a “scientific” study methodology. In all its forms, not just the
“physical” agenda that is primarily sought by some and in fact, it
is through the ethereal plane and methodologies that the clues and
some of the answers lie for physical as well as ethereal factors.
Tell Michael this verbatim: “You once had a more open mind, Michael,
what happened?” Some of his most frustrating recent events in his
life relate directly to this!! Trust your insights, they are
assisted learning matrix. Good Night.
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January 7, 1996
Freddie, Laura, PZ
Q: (L) Hello
Q: (L) And who do we have this evening?
Q: (L) And where are you communicating from?
Q: (L) We have Pat with us tonight...
A: Hello Pat
Q: (L) Now, with all of us here, we would like to ask why the black,
flying boomerangs showed up on the night Pat first came for
A: Examine issue carefully.
Q: (L) The first thing we thought about it was that this was a, if
not necessarily rare, at least rarely observed type of craft, and
the event itself was rare... is this correct?
A: It is rare.
Q: (L) If it is rare for it to occur in response to a hypnosis
session, which person were the UFO’s particularly interested in?
A: It was not a person, but information that is hidden in the
memory of Patricia.
Q: (L) Were they wanting to get this information?
A: No. To monitor what would be revealed.
Q: (L) Does this mean that Pat has information programmed into her
before birth that she needs to access?
A: No. Abductions.
Q: (L) They wanted to see if anything would be revealed about their
abductions of her?
Q: (L) Okay, since she is here, can we ask who abducted her?
Q: (L) How many times has she been abducted?
A: 4. Snow scene was only 3rd density.
Q: (P) Does that mean that the snow scene was only in this realm?
A: No. Abduction which occurred there was strictly physical.
Q: (L) Okay, the abduction that occurred in the snow was a physical
abduction. Perhaps the others were not. Were they physical also?
A: The others were 4th density. 3rd density abduction only occurs
rarely, and is of great import.
Q: (L) What is of great import that is connected to this abduction?
Q: (P) Was my son abducted?
Q: (L) Why did they want Pat so bad that they would take her
A: Do you have any ideas?
Q: (L) Yes, I have ideas. Maybe Pat has ideas and knowledge that she
could access to work against these beings?
A: But real reason is more fundamental.
Q: (L) Were they abducting Pat to harvest eggs?
Q: (L) To harvest energy?
A: Would you like to learn or play “20 questions?”
Q: (L) I would like to learn and get to the bottom of this.
A: You answered your own enquiry earlier.
Q: (L) Because she had information they wanted to get from her?
A: No, no, no.
Q: (L) What did I say?
Q: (L) Oh, they fear that she will act in some way to expose them...
A: Government proximities!
Q: (L) Oh! When I was talking earlier about people who have someone
working for the government, such people tend to be abducted more.
And just because Pat was married to a scientist who worked at JPL
doesn’t mean she knew anything. Does she know something?
A: Not what she knew.
Q: (L) Was it because of where she lived?
A: Because of proximity to consortium activity.
Q: (P) Was that activity in the tunnel?
A: Implanted for possible future activation.
Q: (L) So, because of your proximity to the people you were living
around and interacting with, you had an implant designed to control
you if need be.
(P) Was this related to what was going on under the
(L) What mountain?
What’s under the mountain?
(P) Just ask.
A: Not locator, personnel are factored.
Q: (L) Okay, it is not where you were so much as who you were in
Q: (L) Was it her husband?
Q: (L) Maybe that is why there is a higher rate of abduction among
family members of government employees, so that they can be
activated or controlled?
(P) But my husband wasn’t really working on
A: He had access to sensitive facilities.
Q: (L) Did he have a security clearance or was he friends with
others who did?
(P) I had a security clearance.
(L) So, P had an
implant put in. An actual, physical implant. Where is it?
A: Behind sinus cavity.
Q: (L) What is this implant designed to do?
A: Activate behavioral control reflex and thought pattern generation
Q: (P) Is that why I can’t remember anything?
Q: (L) Did you ever have headaches or nose or ear problems?
but I do have this memory problem in a big way.
(L) What is the main
part of the memory problem P has? Can you give us any more on that?
Q: (L) So, can I say that this UFO appeared over my house on the
night P was under hypnosis, to reinforce the implant so that she
would not be able...
A: To monitor.
Q: (L) If P had revealed the details of her abduction, would there
have been any repercussions?
A: Not in this case.
Q: (L) Are there cases when persons reveal details of their
abductions, that there are repercussions?
Q: (L) So, if P had gone to anyone, these craft would have appeared?
Q: (L) You have already told us that this is extremely rare. Did P
have an abduction experience of unusual significance?
A: 3rd density.
Q: (L) Okay, what else was unusual?
Q: (P) Does this have anything to do with Camp David?
A: Not the issue, its personnel!
Q: (L) Did you know somebody? Was it that she knew someone or
interacted with someone in particular?
A: Many others!
Q: (P) If I started naming people, could we get to it?
A: Not necessary.
Q: (L) Well, there is an issue here that we need to get to.
the planes have anything to do with it?
A: It is up to P, the extent she wishes to retrieve and divulge, the
unusual experiences that were met, by P, with unusual indifference.
Q: (P) The first thing unusual was the geographic location of our
house. Directly West of us was the mountain that housed all the
communications to be used in the event of nuclear war. We were 13
miles North of Camp David. And, while we lived there, many, many
things took place at Camp David that were of global significance.
And, we built a barn in 1982 and had bought the house in 1976, and
never, in all the years that I lived there, did I ever notice these
planes until we built the barn. If I had a stick in my hand, I could
have touched them, that’s how low they flew. Right over my barn. The
same day every week. And there was always two of them, and they
never had a single marking on them. And, they were propeller planes.
And I wondered: what in the hell is this country doing flying
planes, unmarked, propeller driven, and so low, over this area? This
continued until we moved from that house. So, these planes came
twice a week from 1982 until 1989.
(L) What were these planes?
A: Search to learn.
Q: (L) Well, obviously we need to discuss this to develop our
(P) Well, after the first couple of times, I sort of just
said: “Well, there are the planes.” So, what else is new?
Q: (P) I thought the planes had something to do with the mountain.
Q: (P) We knew they were flying under radar. Now, that I am thinking
about this, nobody else ever talked about these planes. It was like
we were the only people that ever saw them, or people who were at
our house saw them too. My best friend who lived right up the road
never saw them. I asked her: “Did you see the planes?” and she said
“What planes?” I mean, she was seven acres away and nothing in
A: Unusual experiences mount!
Q: (P) Vic also noticed these things and he would always say - he
was less indifferent than I was - he would say: “what in the hell
are those planes and what are they doing?” (L) Why was P so
(P) Well, it didn’t affect MY life, except that I was
damn mad that it upset my horses. But then, the horses got used to
them too, and they became indifferent! [laughter] Well, they came so
often, twice a week - “it’s Wednesday, the planes will be here!”
A: More... continue probing...
Q: (P) The planes came from East to West, and in the West was the
Q: (P) That is the name of the mountain.
(L) What is it?
tunnel where all these facilities were... under Catoctin Mountain.
Camp David is near, too.
A: And MUCH ELSE! Mount Weather, Virginia. And why did you live in
Q: (P) Is it because of Fort Deitrich?
A: What brought you to Maryland?
Q: (P) Fort Deitrich.
(L) What does Mount Weather mean?
tunnel - everybody in town called it The Tunnel - but there was
there to ever give anybody the slightest clue as to what it was. In
fact, I lived there for quite a long time before I knew it existed.
And, on top of the mountain there was a weather station...
what about Fort Deitrich?
(P) Vic was doing electron microscopy -
Q: (P) It was a photographic lab.
(L) Do the instruments on top of
the mountain have anything to do with these planes?
A: So what?
Q: (L) Does it have anything to do with those antennae that are
reported as being connected to that project, that alter space/time?
A: Helicopters, Pat? We are asking you!
Q: (P) Well, the helicopters in Frederick went over our house every
time the president was at Camp David. But, that was our house in
Walkersville not in Emmetsburg. When we first moved to Maryland.
Sometimes the helicopters were unmarked...
A: You see, P is resistant due to experiences, things don’t “phase”
Q: (L) So, all of these things happening around her, the planes, the
mountain, the helicopters...
(P) But the helicopters, I knew it was
the President either going to or coming from Camp David.
A: Resistant, not resisting.
Q: (L) Is the term “resistant” a clue?
A: All is a clue here!
Q: (L) Since P has only been abducted 4 times, can this mean that
she is resistant to that?
Q: (P) Isn’t that just my personality, that if it doesn’t affect me
I don’t bother with it?
Q: (P) I don’t get bothered about things that...
A: Shoot somebody in front of P, and she says: “Oh well, that’s
life” so, to
discover spectacular things, one must be patient and probe
carefully, no hasty assumptions, please!! There is to be retrieved,
Q: (P) Well, the helicopters went back and forth
to Camp David. The President was supposed to be in them. And his
entourage. There was only 3 helicopters.
(L) Are these the
helicopters referred to?
A: No. Let P digest it, and report back later.
Q: (L) At the time we had all those sightings around here on the
night we did that session with P, why did so many other people see
A: Window was “blast.”
Q: (L) Are there any craft over us at this time?
Q: (L) Okay, we have the magazine ready to go out and the articles
are somewhat controversial. Can we have an indication as to whether
there will be a positive response to this issue or not?
A: Wait and see.
Q: (L) Will it be possible to “channel” online as Mike Lindemann has
Q: (L) P is having some serious problems at the present time, can
you help her with these?
A: Networking works!!!
Q: (P) Is there a light at the end of the tunnel?
A: Networking works!!!!!
Q: (L) So, if she becomes involved in a network of some sort, things
will sort out for her?
A: What do you think networking is, Laura?
Q: (L) Well, just what we have been doing...
(P) How can you network
a federal contract?
A: Share ideas, ask others for their experiences and opinions.
Q: (L) Pat says her shop cannot support the salaries for three
people. And her
Federal transcription business has gone kaput since the budget ran
congress has not passed a new one.
A: What harm is there in aggressively pursuing government contracts,
you to lose? Even if it fails dramatically, what, then, have you
lost? If someone has the capacity to do so in business, the ultimate
advice is to diversify, not eliminate, in other words, “leave no
stone unturned!!” Suggest chase state and local government work as a
buffer. Networking works P, you have always solved dilemmas, you go
into “automatic pilot” during crises, so why do you ask?
Q: (L) Can you give us a clue about when the budget battle is going
A: It is in the process of ending. Monday will start to refire the
though it will be awhile before it runs at full steam again.
Backlogs create opportunity.
Q: (P) But, the backlogs can’t begin until the budget is passed and
A: Will happen in quick succession. You need to concentrate on
your personal situation.
Q: (P) What does that mean?
(L) It means that until you can do
something else, concentrate on that.
A: Mercury retrograde favors continuances, not beginnings.
Q: (P) I would like to know about the apparitions of the Virgin Mary
at Conyers, GA, as well as this book “Mary’s Message to the World”
and all the other messages about the End Times that are coming out
A: The forces at work here are far too clever to be accurately
easily. You never know what twists and turns will follow, and they
are aware of prophetic and philosophival patternings and usually
shift course to fool and discourage those who believe in fixed
Q: (L) Anything further for tonight?
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January 9, 1996
Q: (L) Hello.
Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
Q: (L) Is that anything like exhilaration?
Q: (L) Well, if it is like exhilaration, I am all for it. And where
are you from?
Q: (L) Tonight I have a question for a friend. Violette was over
today and wanted me to ask if her son is involved in some cult type
A: More like “kiddie gang.”
Q: (L) She said she has noticed things missing. Are they using any
of her personal items to try and put a “hex” on her, if even in a
Q: (L) Is the action she is taking, which is to try to get him into
a hospital drug treatment facility; can you make any comments on
Q: (L) Is there anything that she could do that would be helpful at
A: Son follows in “shoes” of parents.
Q: (L) So, she needs to look at her past to know what would alter
Whatever would have worked with her will work for him, is that it?
A: And David.
Q: (L) Any other advice for her at this time?
A: Best to let kid salt his oats and take his lumps.
Q: (L) Okay, P will be here on Saturday, so we will leave a lot of
my questions for then. I don’t quite know how to ask this. It has
become increasingly obvious to me that there is some sort of
connection where JO [an unsolved murder of a local 13 year old girl;
Absolutely NO clues] was concerned, some synchronous connections
between that murder and my so-called “awakening,” if you want to
call it that. And I also noticed a connection between the life
pattern, or change in life pattern, of Ted Bundy and certain UFO
sightings, and cattle mutilations that were in his area of the
country. Now, we have another girl who has come up missing at the
same time P and I were discussing the JO case, and this new case has
a lot of things that seem to be common to that case. I see that
there is an issue here that I would like to get to the bottom of;
can you help?
Q: (L) I know that is vague. Did my involvement with the JO case [I
was asked by law enforcement official to try to come up with some
clues or hints through astrology and psychic impressions] have
anything to do with opening the door of my mind to other phenomena,
particularly UFOs and aliens?
Q: (L) You can’t give me a clear answer on that?
Q: (L) Okay. I had dreams about it. The work that I did on the case
astrologically, the dreams I had about it, as well as certain
impressions I received, convinced me that a particular individual
was the killer. Was that an opening of my instinctual awareness in
Q: (L) Was there some soul connection between myself and JO?
Q: (L) Was there some connection between JOs murder and “alien”
A: There is always this connection in one way or another, at one
convergence or another.
Q: (L) Was the murder of JO a “mini-plane convergence?”
A: What did we just say?
Q: (L) It seemed to me that was what you said, and I was trying to
clarify it. Is that, in fact, a plane convergence, where one
person’s plane of reality converges with another person’s plane of
reality, and one or the other gets annihilated?
A: 4th, 5th and 3rd density is involved.
Q: (L) Is this true with all murders?
A: Discover and yes.
Q: (L) Was my interaction into that reality a sort of entering into
a point of plane convergence?
A: Flirting with the edges.
Q: (L) So, when a person is working on a murder investigation, or
thinking about it, or applying thoughts, talents, instincts or
whatever to the solving of this kind of puzzle, they are interacting
with a plane convergence?
A: This represents one manifestation of the always present desire to
“home” to 5th density.
Q: (L) Okay. Well. Now, I want to get to the 64000 dollar question.
In the JO case, was my conclusion correct?
A: “Correctness” takes many forms and provides a window to many
Q: (L) (F) What does that mean?
(L) I don’t know. My evaluation was
that the man who sought my help was also the killer. Is that
Q: (L) Was the man who killed JO known to her?
A: We recall advising a cautious approach, in order to insure that
are learned not only accurately, but painlessly as well.
Could you suggest, just to get me on track here, a form of question
that would be a “cautious” question? Then I can frame subsequent
questions on that model.
A: The issue here is not how to “frame” a question in such a way as
to lure us
into answering in the way you desire, but for you to learn most
not have prejudice that there is only one thing to be learned from
each response. “You never know what there is to be learned when you
inquire with innocence and freedom from supposition.”
Q: (L) I just played the tape back and it is all muddy. Could you
tell us why we are having this problem with the tape?
A: Telekinetic wave transfer.
Q: (L) What is this telekinetic wave transferring?
A: Evolving energy.
Q: (L) Given off by us?
A: Both to and from.
Q: (L) From us to you?
A: You and others, not us.
Q: (L) Who are these others?
A: 4th density eavesdroppers, P’s involvement should “heat things
Q: (L) Is Ps involvement going to be beneficial to this work?
A: Yes, but also expect anomalies.
Q: (L) That is interesting. Are you going to tell me who killed JO?
I am willing to give up my conclusion if necessary.
A: Learn. Review our previous response.
Q: (L) I would love to, but much of the answer was lost in the
A: It can be deciphered.
Q: (L) Okay. Learn. Was there something about Ted Bundy, and the
fact that his life seemed to disintegrate at the same time a lot of
UFOs were sighted?
Q: (L) Was Ted Bundy abducted?
Q: (L) Was Ted Bundy programmed to do what he did?
Q: (L) What was the purpose behind that programming?
A: We must withhold answer for the present.
Q: (L) Okay. Bundy described his murdering urges as a “pressure
building inside” him that he couldn’t overcome, and it seemed to
cause him to stop being “human,” as we think of it. That seems to me
to be an example of an implant being able to overcome a person’s
social behavior, or controls over anti-social tendencies. Is this
also what happened to the person who killed JO?
Q: (L) Is there a connection between the newly missing girl, CB, and
A: You are doing well in your probing of the knowledge within on
this issue, we
suggest continuance, after all, learning is fun!
Q: (L) So, it seems to me that there was a connection between the
appearance of CB and JO. Could it be that the individual who killed
one or both of them was programmed to respond to this particular
type facial characteristic? Could that be part of the programming?
A: End subject.
Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: We have helped you all that is necessary for now on this matter.
beneficial for you to continue on your own for growth.
Q: (L) Can I ask just one or two more LITTLE questions in a
I mean, this is like walking away and leaving me in the dark!
A: No it is not!
Q: (L) I would like to be able to solve this because the families
are in pain and have asked for help.
A: Why don’t you trust your incredible abilities? If we answer for
you now, you
will be helpless when it becomes necessary for you to perform this
function on a regular basis, as it will be!!!!
Q: (L) Well, frankly, I don’t want to be involved in any more murder
investigations. It is too upsetting. Am I supposed to DO this sort
of thing regularly???
A: Not same arena.
Q: (L) Well, then how do you mean “perform this function?”
A: No, seeing the unseen.
Q: (L) Okay, shift gears. I received a rather nasty letter from
Jason D. He said he was getting tired of listening to the C’s trash
his favorite channel o’choice. After all, he IS the one who ASKED
A: He will come around if he follows his instincts. JM.
Q: (L) Yes! That reminds me that I wanted to ask you about him. He
wanted me to ask you if I should pull him out of school.
A: What do you think?
Q: (L) I think he is miserable, but he does not want to “give up” or
be viewed as a “quitter,” or a baby. He is torn between his misery
and disgust with the system, and his desire for peace. I would like
to know why that kid attacked him the other day?
Q: (L) You mean stimulated through 4th density?
Q: (L) Is there anything I can do to help protect him?
A: What do you think?
Q: (L) Well. I don’t know what to think.
A: Don’t avoid the issue, it is of paramount importance!
Q: (L) Yes, I think I ought to take Jay out of school. There is just
too much attack going on from all directions, and that is ONE that I
can close off.
A: Instincts preserve 3rd density experience.
Q: (L) What does that mean? You say that the issue is of paramount
A: Instincts preserve 3rd density existence.
Q: (L) There is some threat to his existence in 3rd density if I
DON’T do something right away?
Q: (L) Is this threat from outside sources?
Q: (L) So I need to pull him out of school NOW.
A: Follow instincts.
Q: (L) That’s clear enough for me. I have the feeling J is here for
a purpose and that is why he has so much difficulty interacting with
persons who are not as concerned about things as he is. Is this
Q: (L) Now, I want to ask my Sheldon Nidle channeling?
A: Suggest you not waste energy on this.
Q: (L) There are a lot of people who are convinced by Sheldon Nidle
that there is going to be a photon belt and a mass landing of UFOs
in the fall of this year. Is this, in fact, going to occur?
A: People are very convinced by Bo and Peep.
Q: (L) Okay, I won’t put any more energy in that. Thanks for the
assist tonight. Good Night.
A: Good Night.
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January 13, 1996
Freddie, Laura, PZ, PkZ
[This is one of several sessions that were made almost unintelligble
due to static. This had never occurred with the particular machine
used in over 2 years, and only occurred in seeming relationship to
the interaction of P. In fact, during THIS session, two recorders
were used, and BOTH tapes were nearly ruined.]
Q: What name do we use this evening?
Q: And where do you transmit from?
Q: Okay, we have P and Pk here with us this evening. I would like to
ask, as the first question, about the invitation to do online
“chats” and channeling through Mike Lindemann’s ISCNI, is this an
acceptable mode of communication for this source, because, if so, we
think we can figure out a way to do it.
Q: Is this a desirable forum?
Q: I have worked on preparing a little biographical sketch about the
C’s, and would like to know if it is acceptable as is?
A: This is up to you!
Q: What is going on with Val Valerian? He was calling every week,
and I have not heard from him in almost a week.
A: He lost track of time.
Q: Why did he lose track of time?
A: Busy with many projects. You must contact him because we see his
with mounds of “stuff.” He is interested, but just not for some
period. [short pause] Isis has uterine or cervical abrasion from
birth process. [Isis was L’s dog which had given birth to 5 puppies,
2 of which died a short time after birth because Isis was unable to
care for them. It had been several days, and Isis had been moved
into the kitchen for warmth, but had been “down” for several days.
This comment was volunteered with no question asked.]
Q: What can I
do to help her?
A: Vitamins A, D, E and a solution of Goldenseal root to be placed
[These instructions were carried out and Isis recovered completely
within 10 days, with definite improvement noted after 2 days.]
Next question: I guess I ought to let P ask about it.
(P) A man came
to our shop last Monday and ordered a phenomenal amount of work and
promised more work in the future if he is satisfied.
A: Good intentions. Is like a “self-styled” wheeler dealer.
Q: Does he have the money to back up his “good intentions?”
A: Strings projects along... Kiting, as in checks. Repeat: good
Q: (S) There are people who know they will have their pay on Friday,
and they write checks on Thursday.
(P) Yes, but it really is against
the law. If it is not in the bank when you write the check, you are
breaking the law.
A: Beware of errors in timing... suggest that you be conservative in
processing of especially big orders. Take the checks to bank of
writer to cash, when possible, and beware of out of area checks...
Steady in decisions regarding monumental tasks, do not attempt to
tackle large projects unless you are certain of the efficacy of fund
Q: Next question: How does one determine if they are channeling a
3rd density dead dude, or a higher density being?
A: Corrections and clarifications needed: “Dead Dudes” are 5th
Either they are stuck in 3rd density, or they are communicating from
5th density, not 3rd density!! They are not 3rd density! 1st density
includes all physical matter below the level of consciousness. 6th
density is uniform in the level pattern of lightness, as there is
complete balance on this density level, and the lightness is
represented as knowledge. 7th density is union with the one... it is
timeless in every sense of the word, as its “essence” radiates
through all that exists in all possible awareness realms. The light
one sees at the termination of each conscious physical manifestation
is the union, itself. Remember, 4th density is the first that
includes variable physicality!! Ponder this carefully!!! And,
remember, there is only one “God,” and that the creator includes all
that is created and vice versa!
Q: [Three names were given of scientists who worked for the U.S.
asking if they were part of the reason P had been abducted and
implanted as was
described in the previous session. All three names were lost in
static bursts, but the response to all three names was “yes.” The
last name was recorded in the notes and was Bob Nathan @ JPL. Then,
the following remark was made.]
A: Big involvement there! Microwave technology has many
Q: Was Vic’s last assignment... [remainder of question lost in
A: Was used, but not consistently.
Q: Was what Vic was told about the job he was doing a complete lie,
or was it the truth?
A: Close, but a few details off.
Q: Was it because he was too strong willed to be controlled by an
implant, that he was retired?
A: He was trained in applications, not reversal of command
Q: Does that mean that he wouldn’t have sold out to the ones who put
in the implant, that he was loyal to his employer?
A: Not quite correct concept, it means that he could not be relied
reverse “course” upon activation of subliminal instructions.
How could I be used to monitor personnel when I never noticed
anything as being unusual?
A: Very complex, in fact, parallel subject. P is “locator probe” for
purpose of monitoring those in her midst. Telling is not important,
Besides, most of the work performed did not involve conscious
Q: Is this still going on?
A: Partly, but also, P could be used as a probe to monitor all
place at JPL and other laboratories by examining aural imprints of
her husband and others with whom she was acquainted. All events
leave permanent imprints upon aural energy fields. This explains,
for example, some sightings and apparitions. “Ghosts” are sometimes
merely spontaneous activations of the aural records of the natural
Q: [Question lost in static burst.]
A: No, P, the “blue thing” you saw was not an aural imprint reading,
it was a
4th density craft partially transferred into 3rd density. Your deep
subconscious memory remembers much, much more.
Q: Pk wants to know
about the “sound” he hears in his head that he was describing
A: It is Pk.
Q: You mean his own internal sound?
Q: What does it mean?
Q: (P) Does the knife incident have anything to do with it? The
memory of Pk cutting his thumb with a knife, immediately after the
Q: What did the knife have to do with it?
A: Screen memory. Good Night.
End of Session
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