October 23, 1994

Freddie, Laura, V___

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello. Join mirth Laura.

Q: (L) I am not unmirthful. Who is with us tonight?
A: Onokoia.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Same.

Q: (L) Are you a Cassiopaean?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Last night we tried direct channeling through Fred, I was not entirely satisfied with the results. Can you tell me what the status was and should we pursue that avenue?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was Freddie operating as a clear channel last night?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) What was the nature of the interference?
A: Static electromagnetic.

Q: (L) What was the origin of this static?
A: Various. Channels must be grooved as this one has been.

Q: (L) Is it correct that we should persist with practice for him to become a clear channel?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How often should we do this?
A: Open, but one time per week would be work.

Q: (L) How long will it take to “groove” or clear the channel?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Was the trance technique acceptable?
A: Choose another.

Q: (L) Could you give a suggestion?
A: Opening.

Q: (L) So I should suggest another thing for the opening of the channel?
A: Good idea: subject, you are drifting, falls, etc.

Q: (L) What visual image should I give him in suggestion to open the channel?
A: Up to you. You are now probing in lieu of learning.

Q: (L) E___ L____: Can you tell me about her physical condition?
A: Thyroid and Estrogen count. Psychological problems caused by thyroid.

Q: (L) Is there anything wrong with her heart or her aorta?
A: Thyroid.

Q: (L) How long after mankind was engineered by the Cassiopaeans did they live on the earth in a harmonious, Edenic, condition before the zapping by the Lizards?
A: Mankind was not engineered by us.

Q: (L) Well, were we created by you?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, then how did mankind come to be here?
A: Combination of factors. Numerous souls desired physical existence then was altered by three forces including principally Lizards through Grays, Nephilim and Orion union.

Q: (L) Tell us again who are the Nephilim?
A: Enforcers. Slaves of Orion. From Planet 3C, or 3rd star, 3rd planet.

Q: (L) You said the other night that the Nephilim came from some area around the constellation Scorpio, is that correct?
A: Originally seeded there but you were too.

Q: (L) We were originally seeded somewhere else? Where? Orion? What is the name of that planet?
A: D’Ankhiar. Ankh is ancient symbolism of this planet. Is female symbol. Stands for mother planet.

Q: (L) Is this other planet our original home?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is it like back Home?
A: Spent. Cindered. Burned up.

Q: (L) So it’s true, you can’t go home?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) These Nephilim, how tall were they again?
A: Up to 15 feet maximum.

Q: (L) Was Goliath, who was killed by David, one of the Nephilim?
A: Yes. In legend. Actual event depicted in story was earlier.

Q: (L) Was it actually David and Goliath?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he actually slay him with a stone from a slingshot?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Were these Nephilim genetically intermixed with human beings?
A: Temporarily.

Q: (L) Why only temporarily?
A: DNA conflict.

Q: (L) Were they smarter than us?
A: No.

Q: (L) Were they bigger and dumber?
A: No.

Q: (L) About the same?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was it difficult for them to live on our planet because of their size and gravity and so forth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did they have physical problems here?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And when did the last of them die off?
A: 6000 B.C. Approximately. One reference.

Q: (L) When were they originally brought here?
A: 12000 B.C. approx. one reference. Please understand your measurements don’t make sense.

Q: (L) Let’s go back to the three forces. You said numerous souls desired physical existence. When the numerous souls did this, how did physical existence come to be?
A: First was apelike.

Q: (L) And then what happened? Did these apelike being just pop into the air? What did the souls do with these apelike beings?
A: Souls altered them by transfer.

Q: (L) Transfer of what?
A: Souls into seeded bodies. Orion Union was first into Neanderthal.

Q: (L) The Orion souls came into Neanderthal bodies?
A: No. Put humans there for incubation process.

Q: (L) Were altered ape embryos put back into ape females for gestation?
A: No. Souls only.

Q: (L) They put the souls into the ape bodies?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Did the soul’s presence in the ape body cause its genetics and DNA to change?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) They entered into living creatures on this planet to experience 3d reality and by entering in caused mutation?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Then were altered by Orion Union first.

A: They resemble you.

Q: (L) Who resembles us?
A: The Orions.

Q: (L) We haven’t talked too much about the Orions...
A: Orion Union. There are others in Orion Community.

Q: (L) Are some of the Orions not good guys as we would term it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are some of them good guys?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, you are saying that the original creators or genetic engineers were Orions?
A: Close. The original engineers but not inhabitants.

Q: (L) Where did the souls come from that entered into the bodies on the planet earth? Were they in bodies on other planets before they came here?
A: Not this group.

Q: (L) Were they just floating around in the universe somewhere?
A: In union with the One. Have you heard the Super ancient legend of Lucifer, the Fallen Angel?

Q: (L) Who is Lucifer?
A: You. The human race.

Q: (L) Are the souls of individual humans the parts of a larger soul?
A: Yes. Close. The One. All who have fallen must learn “the hard way.”

Q: (L) Are you saying that the act of wanting to experience physical reality is the act of falling?
A: You are members of a fragmented soul unit.

Q: (L) What is it about wanting to be physical is a “fall”?
A: Pleasure for the self.

Q: (L) How many people on the planet know what you are teaching us?
A: A few.

Q: (L) Are we “special” in some way to receive this?
A: All are special.

Q: (L) How many know?
A: 8 so far.

Q: (L) Will we be able to teach others?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) Who are the others?
A: No contact right now.

Q: (L) Did, at any time, the human race live for a long time in an Edenic state, where they were able to use bodies and still have a spiritual connection?
A: Yes. But not long. No addiction takes long to close the circle.

Q: (L) So, mankind was addicted to pleasuring the self?
A: Became quickly.

Q: (L) How long from the time of the moving of souls into bodies did the “Fall” in Eden occur?
A: Not measurable. Remember Laura, there is no time when this event occurred. Time passage illusion did not exist at that point as well as many other falsehoods.

Q: (L) So you are saying that the Fall in Eden was also the beginning of time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) These many other falsehoods that you mention, could you tell us about a couple. We know that the first one is time...
A: You must learn on your own.

Q: (L) Aletheia wants to know what the Loch Ness Monster is.
A: Serpent. 40 feet long average. There are 51 in the lake. They live in underwater cavern system and are leftovers from pre-cataclysmic times.

Q: (L) Are there any huge monsters at the bottom of the ocean?
A: Giant squid about 1000 feet long. There are about 20,000 of them more or less.

Q: (L) Are there any leftover dinosaurs in the jungles of Africa or South America?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is a vegetarian style of eating good for one?
A: Not usually.

Q: (L) What did human beings eat before the Fall?
A: Vegetarian.

Q: (L) So, until we go through the transition we are not really designed to be vegetarian?
A: Correct.

Q: (L) Would we be able to use this source to do readings for other people to give them information that they need?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Would you be willing to help us to give readings for other people?
A: OK.

Q: (L) I would like to know if the teachings of Gurdjieff were in any way accurate or near the truth?
A: Open.

Q: (L) We would like to know the source of information coming through Billy Meier?
A: Grays.

Q: (L) He is not channeling Pleiadians?
A: Was but not now.

Q: (L) Are the Minturians associated with the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the Minturians assisting in abductions?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are the Minturians on the planet at this time?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they nearby our planet?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they in any way involved with the activities going on on the planet at this time?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they slaves of the Lizzies?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they living on a free will planet?
A: Yes. All are.

Q: (L) How tall are they?
A: 11 feet tall average but in 4th density realm.

Q: (L) Do they eat?
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they reproduce?
A: Mechanically.

Q: (L) When the earth becomes 4th density will we still eat?
A: Differently.

Q: (L) Will we still reproduce?
A: Differently.

Q: (L) Will people still have sexual relations?
A: Wait and see for yourself. Absorb nutrients through the skin.

Q: (L) In the same way as the Lizzies and Grays do?
A: They are 4 level.

Q: (L) And they also absorb nutrients through their skin?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What nutrients do they use?
A: Many.

Q: (L) What source do they use for these nutrients?
A: Answered by Fred previous session.

Q: (L) Are you saying that we will be feeding ourselves the same way?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is it true they throw people in the blender and then absorb their bodies.
A: Close.

Q: (L) Was Jeffrey Dahmer abducted by the Lizzies at an early age?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he get his perversions from the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is he genetically connected to the Lizzies?
A: No.

Q: (L) I have a book in the bedroom called The P’taah Tapes channeled by a gal named Jani King. Who is Jani King channeling?
A: Herself.

Q: (L) We want to know about the Ra Material by Elkins, Rueckert and McCarty, where is the Ra Material coming from?
A: Us.

Q: (L) Would you say that the Ra Material comes through a clear channel?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) If we had a book with the inscriptions from the city of Mohenjo Daro, would you be able to translate them for us?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Who built Stonehenge?
A: Druids.

Q: (L) Who were the Druids?
A: Early Aryan group.

Q: (L) How did they move the stones and set them up?
A: Sound wave focusing; try it yourself; coral castle.

Q: (L) Who taught the Druids to use the sound waves?
A: They knew; handed down.

Q: (L) When was Stonehenge built?
A: 6000 approx. B.C.

Q: (L) What was Stonehenge built to do or be used for?
A: Energy director.

Q: (L) What was this energy to be directed to do?
A: All things.

Q: (L) Was the energy to be directed outward or inward to the center?
A: Both.

Q: (L) Are you suggesting we should get together and try to move something with sound?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this sound come from our bodies?
A: Learn. Laura will find answer through discovery.

Q: (L) It says in the Kaballah that when a group meets regularly with intent and purpose to acquire spiritual awareness, that they create what is called a vessel. Is this what we have done these past three years?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, since we have created this vessel, into which this information can flow, can we add other people to the use and benefits of this vessel?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) We have heard about a movie called The PuppetMaster, is this movie a depiction of truth?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Were the events surrounding the death of JFK depicted correctly in the Oliver Stone movie, JFK?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is it true that he was shot by one of his own bodyguards?
A: No.

Q: (L) Why was he killed?
A: Corruption.

Q: (L) Was he the one who was corrupt?
A: Too many facts to discuss in this medium.

Q: (L) Did Marilyn Monroe commit suicide?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was she murdered?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was she murdered because of her connection with JFK?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What did she know that made them want to murder her?
A: A lot.

Q: (L) Who was the man in the velvet or iron mask who was imprisoned by Louis XIV?
A: An heir to the throne.

Q: (L) If that was an heir, what relation was he to the king?
A: Bastard son. Using your terminology.

Q: (L) Did Elvis Presley really die?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is he really in his grave?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he die of an overdose?
A: Close. Heart attack.

Q: (L) Do the tabloids print truth about UFOs?
A: Very often.

Q: (L) Was the woman who reappeared in Berlin who said she was the Princess Anastasia really who she said she was?
A: Yes.

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October 25, 1994

Freddie, Laura, V____

Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight?
A: Batuva.

Q: (L) Are you a discarnate earth spirit?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Are you prepared to answer our questions this evening?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) The first question is what is the meaning of the winged circle that is so common throughout ancient religions?
A: Life energy.

Q: (L) Why was life energy represented this way?
A: Closed circle. Free spirit in closed circle.

Q: (L) What is the meaning of the eye of Horus?
A: Psychic energy.

Q: (L) What was the origin of the serpent god?
A: Lizard rule.

Q: (L) Who appeared to Joan of Arc?
A: Lizard projection.

Q: (L) What is the true origin of Halloween?
A: All Hallows Eve.

Q: (L) Is there something older than that?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are there alien bases on the Moon?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who do the bases belong to?
A: Grays.

Q: (L) Was there ever at any time such a thing as mermaids?
A: No.

Q: (L) What is the origin of this legend?
A: Sailors delirium.

Q: (L) Are there alien bases on Mars?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Whose?
A: Grays and Lizards.

Q: (L) The kids want to know what the giant squids eat?
A: Various things.

Q: (L) Do they have a purpose for being on the planet?
A: Does anything?

Q: (L) Does it?
A: We asked you. Rhetorical question.

Q: (L) The kids also want to know how long it takes a squid to grow that big and how long they live?
A: 200 to grow and live up to 700 years.

Q: (L) What procedure or technology do the Grays use to pass through solid matter?
A: Transdimensional atomic rearrangement.

Q: (L) How do aliens transport themselves or others on beams of light?
A: By electron focusing and previous answer.

Q: (L) How do aliens create the virtual reality scenarios as described in Karla Turner’s second book?
A: Mental image restructuring.

Q: (L) Why does this phenomenon involve the use of the “blue bubble” or light?
A: Hypnotic suggestion trigger.

Q: (L) What is the basis of the Gnostic texts such as the apocryphon of John?
A: Ancient atheists.

Q: (L) What was the energy fueling the crazy sick life of Aliester Crowley?
A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Are Lizards responsible for paranoid schizophrenia?
A: Some.

Q: (L) In a general sense, in the majority of cases, what is the cause of paranoia or schizophrenia?
A: Lizard manipulation of energies.

Q: (L) Why?
A: To feed off the negative results.

Q: (L) So it isn’t necessarily attachments?
A: No.

Q: (L) Do Lizards use attachments of dark energies to effect their purposes?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) In a lot of cases of paranoid schizophrenia are attachments used?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they perpetuating schizophrenia through genetics?
A: Can. Or mental and emotional. Environmental life experiences.

Q: (L) Why does it not usually show up until adolescence? Is this because adolescents are being abducted and having implants put in?
A: Not necessarily.

Q: (V) Do I have an implant in my right ear?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) It has been going off a lot lately.
A: Caused by your interactions with these powerful channels.

Q: (V) What do you mean by powerful channels?
A: Laura and Fred.

Q: (V) Are they Lizard implants?
A: Yes. Monitoring heavily lately.

Q: (V) When did I get the implants?
A: Age 3.

Q: (L) How come Fred and I cause her implant to Buzz?

(V) It buzzes when I’m not with you guys, too.
A: Set off.

Q: (L) Does that mean that we are controlled by Lizards?
A: They are concerned by V___’s communication with us through you.

Q: (L) What is their concern?
A: Losing mole.

Q: (L) As in espionage terminology.

Q: (L) Is Violette a mole?
A: Were subconsciously.

Q: (L) V___ wants to know if she is detrimental to the project by being here?
A: No. Beneficial but the Lizards may resist.

Q: (L) How would they do this resistance?
A: Make her life more difficult just like they have with you two.

Q: (V) But it seems that my life is more on track that it has ever been before?
A: Watch out. Too late to leave project.

Q: (V) I just heard something in my left ear. Is that also an implant?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Do they know what we are doing right at this moment?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Should I stop and go home?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) Why do the implants go off when they do?
A: Monitoring. They have reasons to monitor when they do. They can turn on the monitor and read everything that has gone on since the last monitoring. It is done at their convenience.

Q: (V) Do I have an implant in my left sinus which causes thick discharge?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Am I going to be able to blow it out?
A: No.

Q: (L) I want you to translate for me this phrase: Enuma elish lanabu shamamu.
A: All are seen together.

Q: (L) Translate: Apsu.
A: Life.

Q: (L) Nudimmud.
A: World.

Q: (L) Marduk
A: Mars.

Q: (L) Kingu
A: Light.

Q: (L) Duggae
A: Ground.

Q: (L) What is the Enuma elish really about?
A: Ascent.

Q: (L) Ascent of what?
A: Gods.

Q: (L) What gods were these?
A: Lizards.

Q: (L) How many planets did the Sumerians know about?
A: They thought 12.

Q: (L) What is a “tablet of destinies”?
A: Map.

Q: (L) How did Marduk slay Tiamat?
A: Wrong.

Q: (L) Marduk did not slay Tiamat?
A: No.

Q: (L) What did it mean when it said “putting Tiamat’s head into position?”
A: Mars conjunct Moon.

Q: (L) How did Tiamat’s head form the “hammered bracelet”?
A: Comet trail.

Q: (L) Is the Quorum composed of members who are humans on this planet?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) Would we know any of them as well known figures?
A: Hidden. None you would know.

Q: (L) How is the Quorum important in regard to the Earth changes?
A: Watchers.

Q: (L) Why is it important to have watchers?
A: Keep track of prophecies.

Q: (L) How do the Masons relate to the Illuminati?
A: Masons are low level branch.

Q: (L) I would like to know the approximate years of the life of Hermes Trismegistus.
A: 5211 approx.
(Years ago or B.C.?)

Q: (V) What were the red and green balls of light E___ saw several months ago?
A: Grays probing.

Q: (V) Was he abducted at that time?
A: No.

Q: (V) Were the probes there because of him or because of me?
A: Him.

Q: (V) Has he ever been abducted?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) How old when first abducted?
A: Two.

Q: (VL) Eric’s dream of being choked?
A: Past life memory disconnection.

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October 28, 1994

Freddie, Laura, V_____

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Is someone with us?
A: As always.

Q: (L) Can we have your name please?
A: Gursaea.

Q: (L) Are you a discarnate human?
A: No.

Q: (L) What are you?
A: Cassiopaean.

Q: (L) There were two little boys stolen from their mother in South Carolina, we would like to know if we can obtain any information regarding this matter?
A: House in Union South Carolina in closet.

Q: (L) Can you give us any details about the house and how it could be found?
A: On street with lots of other houses white clapboard.

Q: (L) Any other details? Name of street?
A: Oak in name.

Q: (L) How close is this to where their parents are?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Where is the vehicle?
A: In woods West.

Q: (L) Are the little boys alright?
A: Will be found soon for comparison to ultimate results.

Q: (L) Why am I having these current headaches?
A: Changes DNA

Q: (L) A____ suggested an ozone generator to enhance the contact. Is this a good idea?
A: He means well. Have him supply it.

Q: (L) Is it alright for me to send the edited version of our transcripts to A__ B__?
A: B__ may share with questionable individuals.

Q: (L) Will that be detrimental to us?
A: What do you think?

Q: What was B__’s purpose in calling me today?
A: Curiosity generated by UFO grapevine gossip.

Q: (L) What was the gossip?
A: W__ and F__ inspired intrigue.

Q: (L) Do these two have more contact than we would think?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) W__ and F__?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) W__ hates F__, isn’t that correct?
A: Variable.

Q: (L) Should I not share information with J__?
A: All is learning process.

Q: (L) Are they all in a tizzy about what we are doing here?
A: Generally yes. T__ and J__ are OK.

Q: (L) So T__ and J__ are not saying anything to W__ or F__ about this?
A: Yes. But that’s not the point.

Q: (L) What is the point?
A: Motives are good omnipresently.

Q: (L) What do you mean by that? Are we talking just about J__ and T___?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are B__’s motives good?
A: Variable.

Q: (L) Are J__’s motives good?
A: Same.

Q: (L) Would J__ ever do anything that would damage me or this work?
A: Search within self for answer.

Q: (L) Why should we take the Melatonin?
A: Is mild hallucinogen.

Q: (L) Why do we need this?
A: Keeps exercising psychic abilities and opens paths. Don’t be alarmed by vividly erotic dreams.

Q: (L) Should we expect to have vividly erotic dreams?
A: Possible as psyche passes through levels on ascension.

Q: (L) Is there a problem with the energy level tonight?
A: With board.

Q: (L) What is wrong with board.
A: Getting crumpled.

Q: (L) We need to get a new board?
A: Good idea.

Q: (L) If I get a piece of glass to put on the board and felt for the planchette will that do it?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Better to get a new board?
A: Open.

Q: (L) I wonder if there is a chance of getting the old Lizzies involved if we are not careful about who we tell?
A: Always chance of that.

Q: (L) We would like to have a rundown of certain UFO related individuals:

Q: (L) William Cooper?
A: Independent; good intentions; slightly overactive imagination; a little misled.

Q: (L) Bob Lazar supposedly worked on alien craft retro-engineering?
A: Did but sinister. Involved with questionable types.

Q: (L) His video about working at Area 51 and descriptions of propulsion systems and alien craft was or was not truth?
A: Close to the truth. Craft tech: minor points were off.

Q: (L) What about Stanton Freidman?
A: Pure, good man.

Q: (L) William Moore who co-wrote the Roswell incident with Charles Berlitz?
A: Same as Friedman.

Q: (L) What about the incident where he admitted to disinformation?
A: Was coerced to say that by complex sources. That situation is very complex.

Q: (L) What about Jaime Shandera?
A: Misled by same as Moore. Has mixed intentions.

Q: (L) What about Don Ware?
A: Disinformation artist.

Q: (L) What about John Lear?
A: Good but overcareful.

Q: (L) What about Dr. Richard Boylan whose book I just read? This guy says he had an experience where he was abducted and overnight his attitude about aliens changed. Who was responsible for that abduction that changed his attitude?
A: The Grays changed Boylan’s attitude.

Q: (L) What was the motivation in doing so?
A: Get him to dispense selective info.

Q: (L) What is the intent of this selective information?
A: Confuse investigators.

Q: (L) Was his mind taken over when the Grays abducted him?
A: In a sense.

Q: (V) A Navy plane crashed on Tuesday, why did the plane crash?
A: Guidance system malfunction.

Q: (V) Why wasn’t the pilot able to eject?
A: It was her time to go.

Q: (V) So none of this had anything to do with Aliens?
A: No.

Q: (V) I listened to a woman named Janet Dailey who says that women who have abortions have a higher incidence of breast cancer but that spontaneous abortion or miscarriage do not cause the same reaction, is this true?
A: Yes. But women who have their first pregnancy later in life also have higher instances of breast cancer and same for those who never get pregnant.

Q: (V) Does abortion create karma resulting in breast cancer?
A: Hormonal anomalies cause breast cancer. Karma is interconnected with physical experiences.

Q: (L) Are you saying that having an abortion can create Karma?
A: Of course.

Q: (V) Is this research funded by pro-life activists?
A: Some.

Q: (L) I think that V__ wants to ask if she has Karma in this regard?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) She has not worked it out?
A: No.

Q: (L) Bill Baldwin says abortions lead to serious spiritual attachment situations. Is this true?
A: Semi-accurate.

Q: (L) Is there some way to release this kind of karma for V__ or others who have it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Could you tell us?
A: If we tell you, you won’t learn.

Q: (L) Now, several people have told me that there is a small child who is with me constantly, who is she and why is she here?
A: Next in line.

Q: (L) Next in line for what?
A: Birth.

Q: (L) Am I going to have another child?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) How many are there in line?
A: One.

Q: (L) Male or female?
A: Female.

Q: (L) Is this to happen within the next year?
A: Open.

Q: (L) I am 42 years old. If I were to get pregnant would I be able to have a normal pregnancy and produce a healthy infant?
A: Yes. Your consciousness will soon give you spectacularly sharp, exact and correct information.

Q: (L) Will this be due to ingesting the Melatonin?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) Is soon within a month?
A: You will know.

Q: (L) I get the feeling that this has a lot to do with trusting my own intuition.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) I had a very serious physical attack yesterday. What was the nature of that attack?
A: Gallbladder.

Q: (L) What should I do about it?
A: See ultrasound specialist.

Q: (L) Will Reiki heal it?
A: Open.

Q: (L) When V__ had her hands on my heart area and they were visually vibrating. Is that a sign of transmission of a great deal of energy?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what part of the body was that energy going to?
A: Chest area.

Q: (L) V__’s hands are tingling right now. Is that Reiki energy happening right now?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Is my Reiki energy going to Fred and Laura as we are doing this?
A: All ways. You have strong natural healing power.

Q: (V) So, it isn’t necessarily the Reiki initiation?
A: No. A__ is misguided.

Q: (L) If V__ had the correct initiation would this power her up so that she could do near miracles?
A: Precisely.

Q: (V) Does E__ also have this ability?
A: Some ability.

Q: (L) This evening E__ was acting up, what was going on with him?
A: Hormonal upsurge.

Q: (V) Is this due to interacting with females?
A: Close.

Q: (V) Female energy?
A: More physical.

Q: (V) Are they having a good time?
A: Fluctuating.

Q: (V) Is L__ o.k.?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) How much longer do I have to deal with this Hormone thing with E__?
A: 6 years.

Q: (L) Is patience the key?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Can Reiki clear marijuana residue from the lungs?
A: Partly but what if there are continuous infusions?

Q: (L) Is there ever a case when ingestion of pot or alcohol are beneficial in a spiritual way?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) V__ used pot within past two weeks, why?
A: Search within.

Q: (L) Was it an outside influence?
A: All uncomfortable events are influenced either directly or indirectly.

Q: (L) Was this the passing of her uncle?
A: Search within.

Q: (L) Many years ago I was with a friend and we pulled off the road to let me drive. We both walked around the car and got in and I believe we sat there for a very long time. Was that because of the potency of what she had smoked or what?
A: You were abducted due to the open state produced by the drug.

Q: (L) What was in that stuff?
A: Strychnine.

Q: (L) Have I done great physical damage to my body through drugs?
A: Some.

Q: (L) Is it irreversible?
A: Not likely.

Q: (L) If I went on a fast would I be able to reverse the damage to my body?
A: Good chance.

Q: (L) Is that the same for Fred and V__?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it advisable to take colonics with the fasting?
A: Good idea.

Q: (L) Also to take vitamin supplements?
A: No.

Q: (V) Is the Godspark the portion of the Creator that lives within us, the soul, so to speak?
A: Sounds good.

Q: (L) If the godspark is the soul within us, does anybody have godsparks times 2 or 3 or so on? That is more than others?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What type of person would have more Godspark than anybody else?
A: Jesus has Godsparks ad infinitum.

Q: (L) How does Jesus have Godsparks ad infinitum?
A: Soul replication for communication purposes.

Q: (L) So, every time we call upon Jesus, we are replenishing our Godspark?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Would you describe these soul replications as being more like a template or hologram?
A: Hologram.

Q: (L) And what is his connection to the Creator that enables him to do this soul replication?
A: Volunteered.

Q: (L) Rudolf Steiner called Christ “The most sublime human principle ever to unfold on earth,” is this an accurate statement?
A: One interpretation.

Q: (L) He also said: “The Christ, who in the course of this evolution lived 3 years in the body of Jesus of Nazareth...” Is this a correct statement? Did the Christ statement enter Jesus at age 30?
A: Formed then.

Q: (L) How did this sublime being, the Christ, dwell in a human body?
A: Natural process caused by supremely pure faith and thought.

Q: (L) Yet previously you said that Jesus had sexual relations with women after he was Christed, is that correct?
A: No. Before.

Q: (L) So, after he was Christed he had no sexual relations?
A: Correct.

Q: (L) Did the Christ spirit descend into the body of Jesus in his 30th year?
A: No.

Q: (L) What happened?
A: Formed within him. And it could do thusly in anyone who reaches such levels
of service to others plus faith and supreme levels of pure thought.

Q: (L) What was the source of the belief that Christ descended into hell during the course of his so-called death?
A: Superstitions created hundreds of years after his work.

Q: (L) When is the credit/debit card system going to be put into effect?
A: 4 to 11 years.

Q: (L) According to shamanistic teachings, one can have animal spirits or guides. Is this correct?
A: Partly. You have them if you believe you have them.

Q: (L) If believing in them makes it so, is this belief beneficial?
A: All belief is beneficial at some level.

Q: (L) Did Jesus of Nazareth believe in animal spirits or totems?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is it just New Age revival of superstition?
A: Shamanism is subjective and limits. Lizard inspired.

Q: (L) This book that is being promoted, M.A.P., what is the inspiration behind that book?
A: Not good.

Q: (L) Just for fun, If I had an animal spirit what would it be?
A: Peacock.

Q: (L) Fred?
A: Deer.

Q: (L) V__?
A: Cat.

Q: (L) Do the Cassiopaens have pets?
A: Not exactly.

Q: (L) What do you guys do for fun?
A: All is fun when perceived correctly.

Q: (L) Should I hook up to the computer internet to use as a source to propagate channeled messages?
A: Yes. Go for it.

Q: (L) Does Fred need Caffeine as he takes it.
A: Up to him.

Q: (L) Is this beneficial to him?
A: Believe it or not, yes.

Q: (L) Is it good for V__?
A: Yes. Adjusts your thinking and vice versa.

Q: (L) Is smoking detrimental to any of our bodies?
A: Not if mild. Not if mind is in right mode.

Q: (L) Does smoking enhance psychic abilities?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it true that the government program to stamp out smoking is inspired by the Lizzies?
A: Yes because they know it may heighten psychic abilities.

Q: (L) What is causing the lung cancer they are attributing to smoking?
A: Mental conditioning and subliminal programming to expect it.

Q: (L) So, it only happens if you are convinced that it can and must happen?
A: Correct.

Q: (L) Is there any particular brand of cigarettes to smoke?
A: No.

Q: (L) Should I accept a job offer?
A: Will take you away from this work somewhat.

Q: (L) Would it be better if I turn it down?
A: Your inner self communicates this to you.

Q: (L) Is my idea to form a hypnosis association and teach and get clients thereby a good concept?
A: Up to you.

Q: (L) I get the idea sometimes that when you say “Up to You” that it may not be the best idea, is this correct?
A: Sometimes but not the only motivation.

Q: (L) V__ is jittery.
A: Mind control, V__. Try exercise.

Q: (L) Breathing or physical?
A: Physical.

Q: (L) “Bringers of the Dawn” advised spinning, is this advisable for all of us?
A: Major yes.

Q: (L) How many times a day?
A: 3

Q: (L) How many times?
A: 33

Q: (L) Is it ok to do it in the pool?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Is the altar beneficial to have in one’s house?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Is that okay beneficial?
A: Be careful not to jump to conclusions.

Q: (L) What conclusions? That the altar is okay beneficial. Is it highly okay for us?
A: No.

Q: (L) Mediocre okay?
A: No. No. No.

Q: (L) What?
A: Laura has been hurt by jumping to Lizard inspired conclusions.

Q: (L) So the altar is useless?
A: No. Just be careful remember metaphysical church group.

Q: (L) Is it a matter of misguided alliances?
A: Has been frequent problem.

Q: (L) Should I dismantle the altar?
A: Altar is okay but other things are not okay like silly rituals.

Q: (L) Is V__’s altar okay?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, during the period of time I was getting the hassle from the metaphysical church group, my pool was green. Was this symbolic of the attack I was under?
A: Yes but you left yourself open by association and buying too many concepts without careful examination.

Q: (L) Do you mean that, if, at that time, I had refused to acknowledge that any harm could come to me, that that would have made it impossible for any harm?
A: Close. But investigate before buying and practicing in future okay?

Q: (L) Investigate what? Ideas?
A: Yes. And concepts and especially practices

Q: (L) The ideas of candle burning, salt, sage, shamanistic rituals and so forth? Is all this useless?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Is sage not useful?
A: You are learning; remember when we say “good no ritual”?

Q: (L) In other words, your knowledge and your strength which comes from your knowledge and knowing is the point and the protection?
A: Precisely. This is extremely important.

Q: (L) Alexandra David Neel quoted a lama who said we must beware of the children of our own minds as well as the children of the minds of others, such as thought forms perhaps created by higher negative beings. If we do not acknowledge that such things exist, are we then subject to being devoured by them?
A: Ritual drains directly to Lizard beings.

Q: (L) Even our saying of the Lord’s prayer?
A: It is okay to pray. Why do you think organized religion is obsessed with rituals?

Q: (L) Is the same thing true of shamanistic practices and so forth?
A: Exactly.

Q: (L) What occurred to make my pool clear up?
A: You restored your own energy.

Q: (L) And it had nothing to do with rituals?
A: Correct. In spite of rituals but you were lucky could have gone the other way.

Q: (L) What prevented this from happening?
A: Divine intervention. [energy surge]

Q: (L) Well, my life seems to have been full of incidents of Divine intervention. Is this true?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the purpose of this intervention?
A: To preserve and prepare you for work.

Q: (L) What is this work?
A: You are extremely valuable to all on your planet.

Q: (L) What particular value? Is this common to all people?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is this something meaningful? What is the mission?
A: Faith in your opening channel; you will learn as you go. We cannot tell you all at once.

Q: (L) Since the energy is high at this time, we would like to know if you have anything to give in the form of a teaching?
A: Not ready for that yet; establish clear channel and forum first; one step at a time.

Q: (L) What is the forum?
A: What do you think?

Q: (L) Do you mean that we need to bring more people into this work?
A: Close.

Q: (L) We need to create a forum.
A: Yes. A direction will open if you persevere.

Q: (L) So things will be brought to us and happen for us if we just persevere?
A: Soon expect big opportunity.

Q: (L) I assume that we are not to ask what it is, we are to have faith, is that correct?
A: Yes. Danger you may misinterpret opportunity.

Q: (L) Should we all three be able to realize in congruence whether the opportunity is good?
A: Varying degrees.

Q: (L) If there is a danger we may misinterpret the opportunity, could you give us a couple of clues so that when it occurs we won’t miss it?
A: At least one of you will have instant recognition but others may not. Wait and see.

Q: (L) This misinterpretation, does this mean we can count on this misinterpretation?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Are we an experiment?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) How many others are receiving this level of information?
A: Less than 100 on entire planet. Less in this mode.

Q: (L) Are some of the others using other modes? What?
A: Many different ones.

Q: (L) Is channeling with three way energy as we are doing in a purer source of information than direct channeling through a single individual?
A: Equal.

Q: (L) Can any one of us do direct channeling?
A: All have equal potential.

Q: (L) Is A__ B__ attached in a major way?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is he going to order the Bill Baldwin book?
A: Yes.

End of Session


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November 2, 1994

Freddie, Laura and V___

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) What is your name please.
A: Fori.

Q: (L) Why was Fred in such a state last night?
A: Because his life is difficult.

Q: (L) What is making his life difficult?
A: Destiny.

Q: (L) Is it his destiny for his entire life to be difficult?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Is that choice up to him?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well then, why is it open?
A: Will dark or light forces win?

Q: (L) Win what?
A: Battle.

Q: (L) Battle where?
A: All.

Q: (L) Well, I thought you said that the forces of light were definitely going to win? Is that not correct?
A: Too simplified.

Q: (L) Is there anything Fred can do in this battle to assist getting over this problem?
A: Fight.

Q: (L) Why does V__’s friend T__ snipe at her the way she does?
A: Jealousy.

Q: (L) So should she just keep all this information to herself?
A: Up to her.
A: All will be okay. We feel important matters need discussion from here forward please.

Q: (L) Could you define important matters for us?
A: Of importance to all.

Q: (L) Who or what group is responsible for crop circles?
A: Us. You bet.

Q: (L) What is the purpose of the crop circles?
A: Messages to world. All.

Q: (L) Do these crop circles mean an idea, an energy, a concept; how do they transmit messages?
A: Translate; it can be done.

Q: (L) This one here, what does it mean?
A: You.

Q: (L) Do you mean the human race?
A: Yes. Symbol for human race.

Q: (L) What does this one mean?
A: Planet.

Q: (L) What was the meaning of the circle my husband found in his driveway?
A: Mars.

Q: (L) What message did that convey?
A: Astrological.

Q: (L) Did it convey any message other than astrological?
A: What does Mars represent?

Q: (L) War... anger, energy, struggle, assertiveness, sex, life...
A: First four.

Q: (L) Now, what does this circle represent?
A: Interdimensionality.

Q: (L) This one here, what does it represent?
A: Atomic structure.

Q: (L) This squiggly one, what does it mean?
A: Struggle.

Q: (L) In what way?
A: Learning from change and adversity.

Q: (L) Well, that is all the pictures I have...
A: Need more soon.

Q: (L) In the Library?
A: Maybe. This is of the utmost importance.

Q: (L) Is this going to help with the “forum?”
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who carved the stone heads on Easter Island?
A: Lemurian descendants.

Q: (L) The natives say the stones walked into position. Is this true?
A: No.

Q: (L) Well, how?
A: Tonal vibration.

Q: (L) And what did these stones represent?
A: Nephilim.

Q: (L) Is this what the Nephilim looked like?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Does that mean that the Nephilim were present in Lemuria?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Where was Lemuria located?
A: Pacific off South America.

Q: (L) So when the Easter Island natives talk about their ancestors they are talking about people who came from the direction of South America?
A: No. Right near all around. Easter Island is remnant of Lemuria.

Q: (L) What happened to Lemuria?
A: Submerged close to time you refer to as Fall of Eden, approximately.

Q: (L) Well if the Nephilim were brought here 9 to 12 thousand years ago...
A: Last visit. Have been here 5 times. Will return.

Q: (L) The Nephilim are going to return? Where do the Nephilim currently live?
A: Orion.

Q: (L) They live in the constellation Orion? Where is their planet?
A: Don’t have one. In transit.

Q: (L) The whole dadgum bunch is in transit?
A: Three vehicles.

Q: (L) How many Nephilim does each vehicle hold?
A: About 12 million.

Q: (L) Are they coming to help us?
A: No. Wave comet cluster all using same energy.

Q: (L) Using same energy to what?
A: Pass through space\time.

Q: (L) Does this mean that without this comet cluster they cannot pass through space/time?
A: No. Slower. message follows here. Quiet for one moment please: From now on when word to follow is in quotes we will designate as follows: mark then word then mark. Now, “slower.”

[We installed quote marks on the board after this. From this point on, when words in the Cassiopaean responses are in quotes, it is because they have so designated.]

Q: (L) So, it is slower for them to come here without this wave. Where is the wave coming from?
A: Follows cluster.

Q: (L) It follows the cluster. What does this wave consist of?
A: Realm border.

Q: (L) Does the realm border wave follow the comet cluster in a permanent way?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is the realm border loosely associated with the comet cluster each time it comes?
A: No. Realm border follows all encompassing energy reality change; realm border will follow this cluster passage and has others but not most.

Q: (L) Is this realm border a dimensional boundary?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, this realm border, do dimensions...
A: Pulsating realms. Fluctuating realms.

Q: (L) Is our realm fluctuating or pulsating?
A: No.

Q: (L) But this other realm does?
A: No.

Q: (L) What fluctuates?
A: Residence.

Q: (L) Whatever is in that realm fluctuates?
A: No. Your planet fluctuates between realms.

Q: (L) How often does this fluctuation occur?
A: About every 309,000 years.

Q: (L) In other words we can expect to be in 4th density for about 300,000 years?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this mean that the Edenic state existed for about 300.000 years before the “Fall?”
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Now, you say these Nephilim are coming and there is about 36 million of them, correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And they are the enforcers of the Grays and Lizzies, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, let’s sit back and watch the show! You are saying that the planet fluctuates...
A: No, realms do, planet merely occupies realm.

Q: (L) What is the source in space/time of this other realm?
A: Too complex.

Q: (L) What is the generative source?
A: Part of grand cycle.

Q: (L) Is this the cycle understood by the Mayans?
A: They understood partially.

Q: (L) Their calendar extends to 2012... is that accurate as to the time of the realm border change?
A: Close. Still indefinite as you measure time. Lizzies hoping to rule you in 4th density. Closer to 18 years.

Q: (V) Is E__ home in bed?
A: Yes. and No.

Q: (V) He is at home but not in bed?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Was he out earlier?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Is this the same individual as before?
A: Yes. E__ going through many changes.

Q: (V) Is he asleep?
A: No.

Q: (V) Should I call him?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is the present arrangement better? [We had switched seats.]
A: No.

Q: (L) Better before?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was better?
A: You and Fred switch places.

Q: (L) Why?
A: Energy vortex.

Q: (L) If the Nephilim are coming 36 million strong as enforcers for the Lizzies, does the Confederation have a like amount for defense?
A: We don’t operate that way.

Q: (L) Are we just going to have to fight them off ourselves?
A: Think of The Wizard of Oz. It was inspired by us.

Q: (L) Does the witch represent the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, is there something we have or can do...
A: Glenda like us.

Q: (L) And who is the Wizard? Is that the Beast or the U.S. Govt?
A: Close. Illuminati.

Q: (L) Are the monkeys the Nephilim.
A: Close enough.

Q: (L) If water destroyed the witch, and the witch represents the Lizzies, can we destroy the Lizzies?
A: Knowledge.

Q: (L) But there are only a few on the planet who have the knowledge, am I correct?
A: What do you mean? Against all when all when time comes.

Q: (L) So the 36 million will be against all on the planet when the time comes?
A: Of course.

Q: (L) And those who have the knowledge and can dispense it to others ...
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Have you inspired other movies we could watch?
A: We have but different meanings and subjects.

Q: (V) Is cocoon one of yours?
A: No. Hollywood.

Q: (L) Who were the original inhabitants of the city of Jericho?
A: Aramaic.

Q: (L) There was a stone tower at one of the lower levels, what was it built for?
A: Energy disbursement. Attempt to duplicate tower of Babel and Atlantean crystal towers.

Q: (L) Who carved the crystal skull found in Central America?
A: Mayans.

Q: (L) What was the purpose of that skull?
A: Study brain. Long message follows pause: Now: skull was to learn about soul; reflective remolecularization imaging. Grays do this with abductees.

Q: (L) Through what kind of instrument.
A: Energy focusing.

Q: (L) What is behind their eyes?
A: Camera like system.

Q: (L) Is that system also able to send signals?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) At what spectrum level?
A: Thought paralysis.

Q: (L) Do they implant thoughts with their eyes also?
A: Can.

Q: (L) What do they do with implants?
A: Monitor.

Q: (L) Do they monitor our thoughts?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they monitor what we see?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Hear and feel?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do the implants just monitor?
A: And control.

Q: (L) Do all of us have implants?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we under the control of the Grays?
A: Attempt.

Q: (V) How many times have I been abducted?
A: 55

Q: (L) Laura: 12
A: A__: None.

Q: (L) J__: Yes.

Q: (L) Can I protect them from abduction?
A: Maybe. Tried A__.

Q: (L) What stopped it?
A: You.

Q: (V) When was I last abducted?
A: June.

Q: (V) Was that when I was perceiving being attacked...
A: Yes.

Q: (V) When I called on the hand of God did that help?
A: No.

Q: (L) Who carved friezes in French caves as well as the cave paintings?
A: People. Aryans. In caves because struggling to survive conflicts between many forces including Lizard being domination.

Q: (L) Why did the Egyptians draw sideways?
A: Atlantean method handed down. Simply artistic stylization.

Q: (L) What about the passages in the pyramid. Why so odd?
A: Used energy vortex for movement. Floated, levitated. Can still do this if you know how. In the pyramid the passages created the energy by their placement and relationship to other space/solid configurations. And passages sometimes changed their structure atomically and still do.

Q: (L) What is the purpose of the Sarcophagus in the “Kings” chamber?
A: Energy storage.

Q: (L) Was there ever anything in this object?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What?
A: Many things.

Q: (L) So, there was nothing permanent in it, you could put various things in it for various reasons?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) In our machinery we generally have dials and tuners which can adjust the machine to do a specific job or deliver a particular amount or flow of energy. What was the equivalent of dials and tuning devices in the pyramid?
A: Thoughts.

Q: (L) Was it the thoughts of a person in there or of a specific individual whose job it was to do this “thinking?”
A: Both on occasion.

Q: (L) Could just anybody go into the pyramid, get into this sarcophagus, and have something done to them as they specified? Or, was it the culmination of some other long process?
A: All.

Q: (L) When you say that the passages changed atomically, did you mean that they might actually become larger or smaller?
A: Yes. And change position as well.

Q: (L) Is the theory of Petrie anywhere near correct?
A: In 1967 the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers did study. Look it up.

Q: (L) Was there ever at any point in time such a thing as a unicorn as is described in legends?
A: No.

Q: (L) What is source of this legend?
A: Atlantis beast was similar to unicorn. All died in cataclysm. Looked similar to horse and some had horn but not all.

Q: (L) What is the origin of the Sanskrit language?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) When the Aryans were brought here, were they brought to Atlantis?
A: No. The Aryans were different from the Atlanteans.

Q: (L) Is there any language in existence today that is descended from the Aryan language? Or, that has remained more similar in development from Indo-European?
A: Yes. All Germanic.

Q: (L) Is Celtic considered to be one of these?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the origin of the Minoan civilization?
A: Atlantean descendants.

Q: (L) What was “bull leaping?”
A: A test, a sport, a religious rite.

Q: (L) When Thera blew, it seems to have destroyed all the Minoan cities except for Knossos.
A: Thera was result of close passage by Maldek. Knossos was not destroyed because structures were fundamentally stronger and blast wave was perpendicular. Underground shelters saved a few of the people.

Q: (L) Knossos lasted for about another 75 years after the events which destroyed most of the Minoan civilization. What were the events which brought about the final downfall of the Minoans?
A: Meteor borne parasites. Meteor destroyed city.

Q: (L) The Myceneans built a city with a 50 foot thick wall. Why was this wall built so if the only dangers were warriors armed with spears and arrows?
A: Protected against frequent cataclysmic events during that period. It worked. Much of wall is still standing.

Q: (L) Now, when you talk about the comet cluster, as you have on many occasions, the technical definition of a comet is that it is a chunk of ice. Is this the case with the comets in this cluster?
A: And other substances, primarily iridium cores.

Q: (L) Now you say there are 36 million Nephilim heading this way, are they 4th density beings?
A: No. They live in 4 d but are 3 d. They are as physical as you. Behave like gestapo. Gestapo was inspired by Nephilim through Lizard beings’ influence over Hitler. It was a practice run.

Q: (L) Are any of the Nephilim going to be friendly toward us?
A: No.

Q: (L) Now, you said that the Nephilim were seeded on a planet called D’Ankhiar as were human beings. When you said we were seeded there, what did you mean.
A: Was proper environment for molecularization.

Q: (L) Are you saying that the physical bodies on planet earth, the various types of mankind such as Neanderthal, Cro-Magnon, Australopithicus etc., were generated on that other planet and then brought here?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) I am assuming that if the Nephilim are 3 d that they die like we do. Is this correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, we can shoot them and they will die?
A: Correct. But wrong approach.

Q: (L) What is the right approach?
A: Knowledge protects.

Q: (L) Well, if a 15 foot tall guy comes at me and wants to knock me around, what is knowledge going to do to protect me?
A: You will be in 4th density.

Q: (L) So, before they get here we will be 4 d?
A: Crossing.

Q: (L) All three of us?
A: Yes, and many others.

Q: (L) So, we are not going to have to deal with the Nephilim?
A: Not correct.

Q: (L) Does this mean that there will be 3 and 4 d beings on the planet at the same time and that some will have to deal with these guys and some won’t?
A: But you will have to too.

Q: (L) I don’t understand. Are these Nephilim coming here to transition to 4 d also?
A: They already live there as 3 density beings. Demonstration: When you are abducted you are 3rd density but you are taken into 4th density.

Q: (V) In June I had a dream where I was taken up and there were light beings and I was also a light being; I was trying on different clothes. I was led into a room where I was told I could write there and when I was told it was time to leave, I had shoes on that had written on them “Earth Star”. Was this an abduction?
A: Yes.

Q: (V) Talk about illusions, I thought that was a good thing! Was this a bad thing?
A: Subjective.

Q: (V) Who were the abductors?
A: Grays.

Q: (V) When I woke up I felt so tall and so electric. I thought it had been the best thing... that was my abduction in June?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) We would like to know about this plane crash. Early report from a witness said that there were no bodies. Is that the case?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where are the bodies?
A: Scattered.

Q: (L) What caused the crash?
A: Just like USAir. Was Lizard attack. Will be covered up.

Q: (V) The night before the USAir crash several of us had headaches and woke up drained.
A: Precognition and soul transfer of energy.

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November 4, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: (L) Hello.
A: Hello. Rocks.

Q: (L) What about the rocks? [We had been discussing large crystals on a nearby table.]
A: Put in sunlight for two days.

Q: (L) And what will that do?
A: Energize.

Q: (L) Energized to do what?
A: Provide power to you.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us tonight?
A: Rolla.

Q: (L) Are you a discarnate?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea. Did you see the article about the newly discovered galaxy?

Q: (L) Yes I did and I was curious about that. Is there something about that that you would like to tell us?
A: Our energy transference line to you.

Q: (L) What is the energy transference line, this newly discovered galaxy?
A: In a sense.

Q: (L) Why was the information received about the little boys so unclear?
A: Need to interpret for practice.

Q: (L) Does this mean that all information we get has to be interpreted also?
A: Not as much. That was a particularly sensitive subject with many focusing at once.

Q: (L) Was there interference from the people focusing on it?
A: Close. Remember Allison is good but not when too many are focusing.

Q: (L) Who is Allison?
(Fred) Dorothy?
A: Yes. Dorothy.

Q: (F) Yeah, the psychic who finds dead people.

(L) Well, I don’t even know who she is.

(F) She’s very famous.

(L) Well, I must be living in a cave. I was reading today in “Bringers of the Dawn” about people who are keepers of frequency. Is this an accurate concept?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are Fred and I keepers of frequency?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are we nearly at the frequency we need to keep?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) H__ D__ gave me a reading a few month’s ago when she told me about two people in a partnership and she said no others should be brought in. Was this about S__ or Fred and me?
A: Interference caused reading to be askew.

Q: (L) Well, was she referring to this work with Fred and I or was she talking about S__?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) In that reading she also said that I was going to meet somebody in the month of November who was going to become a very important part of my life in some way. Could you tell me a little bit about that?
A: Wait and see. Time to rattle the bushes again.

Q: (L) Which bushes?
A: Manner of speech.

Q: (L) Of all the different bushes I have rattled and people I have contacted, which ones in particular?
A: UFO people.

Q: (L) How can I do that?
A: Recontact. Some doubt. Recontact.

Q: (L) Recontact some who doubt?
A: No. Recontact some do doubt.

Q: (L) Which ones in particular?
A: Must just rattle without prejudice.

Q: (L) Does this mean sending out scripts from our sessions?
A: Good idea. Spark interest.

Q: (L) Well, that is what I have been planning to do.
A: It takes more than one spark of the flint to ignite the fire.

Q: (L) Should Fred get the Reiki initiation?
A: Okay.

Q: (L) Would it be good for him to get the Reiki initiation?
A: It is always.

Q: (L) Who are the Nordic type aliens?
A: Your ancestors.

Q: (L) What planet did they come from?
A: Several and transitory.

Q: (L) What is their type called? Just the Nordic types?
A: That is as good as any description.

Q: (L) What is their purpose here on the planet at this time?
A: Observation.

Q: (L) Haven’t they been seen with the Lizzies on occasion?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they involved with the Lizzies?
A: Some are.

Q: (L) Are some of them not nice?
A: Fifty-fifty.

Q: (L) Do they ever abduct people?
A: Have but not too often. When they do, they do not give back.

Q: (L) What do they do with the ones they abduct?
A: Take away to too many other places to mention. Purpose is multiple. Too complex.

Q: (L) I get the feeling that maybe it is not too complex, but that you just don’t want to answer, is this correct?
A: Open. Not at this moment.

Q: (L) What about the Villas boas case; who were these beings and what was the purpose for this interaction?
A: Aryan’s breeding experiment.

Q: (L) Where do these Aryans live?
A: In transit.

Q: (L) When they get to where they are going, where do they live?
A: They don’t. There are many who do not live specifically anywhere. They are perpetually in transit.

Q: (L) Why is this?
A: There is no need to be grounded; it is only your perception because that is your familiarity. A planet is a vehicle too.

Q: (L) Why were there 3 pyramids. Did they each have separate purposes?
A: Variance in energy levels and age. Did you research about the 1967 engineer’s study yet?

Q: (L) What book would that be in?
A: Look at Mystery volume. Now, please.

Q: (L) Why was Moses not allowed into the promised land?
A: Because he became tyrannical.

Q: (L) Were the Lizards the ones who led the Jews to the “Promised Land?”
A: No. Were not led; followed their own paths in effort to escape the effects of cataclysms.

Q: (L) Why have they got this big legend about being chosen and led to the promised land?
A: More brotherhood influence and nonsense.

Q: (L) What kind of weapons do the Nephilim use to do their “enforcing?”
A: Stun guns.

Q: (L) Do they actually use some kind of material weapon?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And could you tell us what the Lizzies look like?
A: Upright alligators with some humanoid features in face.

Q: (L) I heard one theory that the Lizzies originally evolved on planet earth, is this true?
A: No. Neither did you.

Q: (L) Do you mean us in the sense of the early human prototypes?
A: All prototypes.

Q: (L) When these prototypes were evolved on another planet, did they have souls at that time?
A: Were added.

Q: (L) What souls occupied those prototypes on that other planet?
A: Same.

Q: (L) So, the legend of the Fall of Lucifer as the origin of the souls incarnating into physical life was an event that actually took place on this other planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do the Lizzies have more than one heart?
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they have more than one brain?
A: No.

Q: (L) This fellow, E__ P__, who claims that he was abducted, and taken by the aliens and altered in physical ways, was any of this true?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was he abducted, in fact?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was done to him?
A: Same routine as other abductees.

Q: (L) Does E__ P__ know that he is deceiving other people?
A: Yes. He is a fraud. Misguided by delusions.

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