July 16, 1994

Fredie, Scarlett and Laura

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: Do you have any messages for us?
A: Keep doing what comes naturally.

(L) In what respect?
A: Study.

Q: (L) What is your name?
A: Mucpeor.

Q: (L) Are you from another planet?
A: Alien from your perspective, yes.

Q: (L) What is your group called?
A: Corsas.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Casiopaea.

Q: (L) Where is that?
A: Near Orion.

Q: (L) I heard that the Orions are the “Bad guys.” Are the Orion group bad?

Q: (L) Do you serve self or others?
A: I serve both.

Q: (L) What is your philosophy?
A: One.

Q: (L) What are you here for tonight?
A: Prophecy.

Q: (L) What prophecies?
A: Tornadoes/Florida - several. Also Texas and Alabama.

Q: (L) When?
A: When the Sun is in Libra.

Q: (L) What planet are you from?
A: Corsoca.

Q: (L) What else is going to happen?
A: Seattle buried; Japan buckles; Missouri shakes; California Crumbles; Arizona burns.

Q: (L) When is all this going to happen?
A: Denver Airport Scandal.

Q: (L) What about a Denver airport Scandal?
A: New airport. Big, big, big, big scandal.

Q: (L) What kind of scandal?
A: Government.

Q: (L) Specifically what?
A: You will see. Dallas airport is secret base; Orlando too. Miami Too.

Q: (L) What about Denver airport and how does it relate to prophecies?
A: Denver reveals the government. Look for it. Pay attention.

Q: (L) What else do you have to tell us?
A: Montana: Experiment with human reproduction. All people there are being exposed to harmful radon gas.

Q: (L) How are they doing this?
A: Compelled. Don’t trust. Don’t ignore. U.S. in sinister plot.

Q: (L) Who is in the plot?
A: Consortium.

Q: (L) Who are the members of the consortium?
A: All.

Q: (L) All who?
A: Government and other.

Q: (L) Who is the other?
A: Unknown.

Q: (L) Why can’t you tell us who is the other?
A: You know who.

Q: (L) Bob Lazar referred to the fact that aliens supposedly refer to humans as containers. What does this mean?
A: Storage for later use.

Q: (L) Used for what?
A: 94 per cent.

Q: (L) 94 per cent of what?
A: Of all population.

Q: (L) What do you mean?
A: All are containers; 94 per cent will be used.

Q: (L) Used for what?
A: Consumption.

Q: (L) You mean eaten?
A: Total consumption.

Q: (L) What do you mean by consumption? Ingested?
A: Consumed for ingredients.

Q: (L) Ingredients for what?
A: New race. Important. 13 years approximately when project will be finished. (now 1994)

Q: (L) Why are humans consumed?
A: They are used for parts.

Q: (L) We don’t understand. How can humans be used for parts?

A: Reprototype. The Vats exist. Missing persons often go there and especially missing children.

Q: (L) Do we have any protection?
A: Some.

Q: (L) How can we protect ourselves and our children?
A: Inform them. Don’t hide the truth from children.

Q: (L) How does truth protect us?
A: Awareness protects. Ignorance endangers.

Q: (L) Why tell children such horrible things?
A: They need to know.

Q: (L) What is the purpose of this project?
A: New life here.

Q: (L) Are the aliens using our emotions and energies?
A: Correct; and bodies too. Each earth year 10 percent more children are taken.

Q: (L) Do they suffer?
A: Some.

Q: (L) Do they all suffer?
A: Some. Bits of children’s organs removed while they are wide awake. Kidneys first; then next feet; next jaw examined on table; tongues cut off; bones stress tested; pressure placed on heart muscle until it bursts.

Q: (L) Why are you telling us this awful stuff?
A: You must know what the consortium is doing. This is done mostly to Indian children.

Q: (L) Why are things like this being done?
A: There is a big effort on behalf of Orions and their human brethren to create a new race and control it as well as the rest of humanity.

Q: (L) What happens to the souls? Is this project physical only?
A: Physical and souls recycled.

Q: (L) Where do the souls go?
A: Back here for the most part.

Q: (L) Do some go elsewhere?
A: Some go to other planets.

Q: (L) Who is responsible for this project?
A: Consortium.

Q: (L) This is sick!
A: Sick is subjective.

Q: (L) But this whole thing is so awful.
A: We understand your feelings, but all does not conform to your perspective.

Q: (L) Why is this happening to earth?
A: Karma.

Q: (L) What kind of Karma could bring this?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) What did the Atlanteans do to bring this on us?
A: We cannot answer you at this time.

Q: (L) What can protect us?
A: Knowledge.

Q: (L) How do we get this knowledge?
A: You are being given it through this source now.

Q: (L) What knowledge do you mean?
A: You have it.

Q: (L) How does the knowledge of what you have told us help us?
A: Gives great defense.

Q: (L) What knowledge gives defense?
A: Just knowing about it gives psychic defense.

Q: (L) How do we tell people? And who do we tell?
A: Inform others indirectly only.

Q: (L) How?
A: Write.

Q: (L) Have any of us been abducted?
A: All.

Q: (L) How many times?
A: Fred-57; S____-56; Laura-12.

Q: (L) Why has Laura not been abducted as much?
(Laura laughs)
A: It is not over.

Q: (S____ laughs.)
A: S_____ was abducted last month.

Q: (L) Who is abducting us?
A: The other.

Q: (L) What is the name of the group?
A: Different names.

Q: (L) Are we all abducted by the same group?
A: Mostly.

Q: (L) What did they do to us?
A: Gave false memories. Made you inhibited as children. Caused headaches and sickness at school.

Q: (L) Do we have implants?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where?
A: In the head.

Q: (L) What are the implants for?
A: Study device.

Q: (L) To study what?
A: Soul composition.

Q: (L) Do any of the rituals we perform provide protection against further abduction?
A: Maybe. Some Crystals with energy fields. Don’t need protection if you have knowledge.

Q: (L) How do we get this knowledge?
A: It is deep in the subconscious.

Q: (L) When did we get it?
A: Before birth.

Q: (L) Is there anything else we can do for protection?
A: Learn, meditate, read.

Q: (L) Are we doing what we need to be doing at the present?
A: So far. Need to awaken. Must go now. I must go.

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July 23, 1994 about 10:30 p.m.

Freddie, Laura and S____

We had drawn several Reiki symbols and placed them under the board and were quietly pronouncing the names of the symbols which were purported to ‘increase power’ and act as an ‘ether tube connector.’ Three very loud and close thunderclaps were heard directly above the house which caused the building to shake.


We jumped up, ran outside to see if there was a storm nearby, but no clouds were in the sky at that time. We returned to the table and proceeded.

Q: Hello.

A: Hello.

Q: Is anyone with us?
A: Listen, Look, Learn.

Q: (L) What is your name?
A: Ellaga.

Q: (L) Are you discarnate from earth?
A: No. Alien.

Q: (L) Are you from another galaxy?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Is this the constellation we know as Cassiopaea?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What can we do for a better connection?
A: Less noise.
(We shut the door)

Q: (L) Do you have information for us this evening?
A: Space invasion soon. Four to six years. Battle between forces good and evil. Wait near. Look far. Listen. Mexico falls; Ethiopia quakes; September both will happen. Near January: Paris bomb; London Blizzard, 109 die; Plane down in Tahiti; Cholera in Montana January. Government of U.S. behind California Quakes. Three soon. Oklahoma political abduction in February. Big news.

Q: (L) What is causing the earth changes?
A: Electromagnetic wave changes.

Q: (L) Can you be more specific?
A: Gap in surge heliographic field.

Q: (L) Is a meteor or comet going to hit earth?
A: Open.

Q: (L) What are the effects on us of the comet striking Jupiter?
A: Further field imbalance.

Q: (L) Was that comet meant for earth as some psychics are saying?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Where do you live specifically?
A: Live in omnipresence.

Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: All realms.

Q: (L) Can you tell us what your environment is like?
A: Too difficult at this time.

Q: (L) Well take a stab at it.
A: What is a stab?

Q: (L) Do you serve self or others.
A: Both. Serve self through others.

Q: (L) S____ wants to know the details of her abductions.
A: Are you sure?

Q: (L) Yes.
A: Soon, vibrations not right at this time.

Q: (L) Does this mean S____’s vibrations are not right to receive this information?
A: Right.

Q: (L) Is there a tenth planet as described by Zecharia Sitchin?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was Venus ejected from Jupiter?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did Venus follow a cometary orbit for a time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did Venus appear in our solar system, from the area of Jupiter, coming from deep space?
A: That is correct.

Q: (L) Was Venus the pillar of smoke by day and fire by night as seen by the Jews during the Exodus?
A: No.

Q: (L) What was seen by the Jews?
A: A Guide ship.

Q: (L) Were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by nuclear weapons?
A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) How were they destroyed?
A: Electromagnetic pulse.

Q: (L) Was Jesus genetically engineered by Aliens?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Can you explain?
A: Too complex for the energies at the present.

Q: (L) Was Mary a true virgin when she gave birth?
A: No

Q: (L) Did she conceive in the normal way?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was Jesus genetically altered?
A: After birth and during childhood.

Q: (L) Was Jesus special, Christed as it is called, in any way?
A: Quick exalted to end the wars and civil entrancement; Zindar council.

Q: (L) What is the Zindar Council?
A: Two cycle exchangers mission.

Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: References vast. Must go. Good Night.

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July 30, 1994

Freddie, S____ and Laura

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: And who do we have with us?
A: Name Panua, Name Oz, Name Pamala

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Corsoca.

Q: (L) Do you have messages for us?
A: Be careful.

Q: (L) Of what?
A: Aliens.

Q: (L) Which Ones?
A: Orions.

Q: (L) What do they do?
A: Follow you.

Q: (L) Did Ann, S____ and Laura see an alien craft last night?
A: You better believe it.

Q: (L) Whose craft was it?
A: Orion.

Q: (L) Did it appear for us specifically.
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they know we saw them?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did they leave because we saw them?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Were they planning to abduct somebody?
A: Maybe. You are next.

Q: (L) What?
A: To be abducted.

Q: (L) Who?

Q: (L) By whom?
A: Orion.

Q: (L) When?
A: Open.

Q: (L) Why?
A: For Knowledge monitoring. Craft above now.

Q: (L) Above the house?
A: Absolutely.

Q: (L) Is it good for me to be abducted?
A: Neutral.

Q: (L) Will I be abducted because I saw them last night?
A: Partly. Mike and John have reported you.

Q: (L) Are they in cahoots with the aliens?
A: Not knowingly.

Q: (L) How, then?
A: Subconcious. Implants.

Q: (L) Do we have implants?
A: Two implants; one monitor.

Q: (L) What is the difference between a monitor and an implant?
A: All are monitors. Implant is permanent. Freddie and Laura have permanent implants. S____ got monitor three months ago. Next is implant.

Q: (L) Why?
A: To watch and observe you.

Q: (L) Why?
A: You are all higher level beings. Freddie implant: 4 years old. Laura implant: 5 years old.

Q: (L) Have Laura’s children been abducted?
A: Not yet.

Q: (L) Have S____’s children been abducted?
A: One.

Q: (L) Which one?
A: Last.

Q: (L) Who is putting implants in us?
A: Orions.

Q: (L) And there is nothing we can do about it? That’s sick!
A: A matter of perspective.

Q: (L) What do the Orion’s look like?
A: Grays.

Q: (L) Are they big nosed?
A: Both kinds of grays.

Q: (L) Are they insectoid?
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they have hive souls?
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they have emotions.
A: No.

Q: (L) Do they want human bodies as hosts?
A: Some.

Q: (L) What is their planet like.
A: Similar to earth.

Q: (L) What planet is it described in several books as a desert with huge spiders with legs like tree trunks?
A: Uzuli.

Q: (L) Has any of us ever been abducted by the giant spiders?
A: No one has.

Q: (L) Well why have people seen this planet?
A: It is one of the planets of ZR 4.

Q: (L) What is ZR 4?
A: Zeta Reticuli 4. There are seven planets. The 4th one.

Q: (L) What other information can you give us?
A: Base of Aliens near here; small.

Q: (L) Are you the ones we refer to as the ‘Boys in Brazil?’
A: Yes. Anclote Gulf Park used to be a military base. Underground.

Q: (L) Why underground?
A: To hide.

Q: (L) What group are you with?
A: Federation. Among many.

Q: (L) Is there any way we can prevent Orion abductions?
A: No.

Q: (L) Why?
A: It would interfere with universal law of free will and service to self.

Q: (L) But we don’t want to be abducted. Can’t we stop it?
A: Not likely. They have more power than you.

Q: (L) Well then, why can’t you help us?
A: Would interfere in natural progression of your race and theirs. The Jews called upon us to save them and we could not. And, natives of your land called upon us and we could not save them from your race; we could not stop that either. It is natural progression, see?

Q: (L) Are we going to be wiped out by aliens as part of this natural progression?
A: Maybe. What makes you think you are special?

Q: (L) Jesus told us God loves us. Is this true?
A: But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not the soul.

Q: (L) Well, this whole thing just gives us the creeps.
A: You are energy. There is an energy that comes from the soul and body connection; later the body is used for parts.

Q: (L) What are they using our energy and bodies for?
A: To create a new race. Theirs is fading out.

Q: (L) Well, do they just take people and kill them and do what with them?
A: They slice them up.

Q: (L) Do they die?
A: Maximum matter and energy transfer occurs during this type of transition.

Q: (L) In other words, you are saying that a slow painful death gives them the most of what they want? This is totally sick.
A: You asked for truth. You say it is sick but it is merely the ultimate form of service to self.

(At this point A___ described reading a passage in a book which stated that Native Americans believed a slow torturous death of an enemy gave them more power.)

A: What about your lab animals? Is that not service to self as well? What about unwanted insects et cetera?

Q: (L) We were here first!
A: So were the insects. Grays now want your planet.

Q: (L) That is sick.
A: Is natural progression sick?

Q: (L) Is what is happening something like what Jesus described in the parable of the wheat where the workers come in to take out the weeds first?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What kind of people is this being done to?
A: Low level humans.

Q: (L) What happens to the high level humans?
A: Some will survive.

Q: (L) Will Jesus be reincarnated into a body?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is Jesus an alien?
A: He is one of us.

Q: (L) Will there be atomic war?
A: No.

Q: (L) Will there be a war in the sky with the aliens?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will it be between Orions and the Federation?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will it be visible on earth?
A: Oh, yes.

Q: (L) When will this be?
A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily.

Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started?
A: It is disguised at this point as weather. It is still in other dimensions. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this period. The absolute time is not determinable as to exactly when. It could be tomorrow or 18 years from now. (now 1994)

Q: (L) 18 years from now is 2012. Is there some special significance to that time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will the earth be affected by a comet or planet?
A: Maybe. One question at a time please.

Q: (L) Is vegetarianism then the way we should eat?
A: That is concentrating on the physical. The body is not important.

Q: (L) Does this mean that to worry about the body in any way is wrong?
A: Close. Don’t concentrate on life in the body. Concentrate on the spirit.

Q: (L) Does this mean Laura should ignore her heart condition?
A: Don’t worry about it. Treat the spirit.

Q: (L) But we like being in bodies and having opportunities to love and appreciate the natural world and all the beautiful things of creation. It is only natural to not want to terminate access to something that can be so pleasant.
A: You will always have access.

Q: (L) Would we be happy moving to British Guyana?
A: Not likely.

Q: (L) Will we be happy staying here and fixing this house?
A: More likely. No dish or clothes washers in Guyana. No electricity. No air conditioning. Are you ready for that?

Q: (L) But we don’t want to stay here and be eaten by aliens!
A: Aliens eat Guyanans too.

Q: (L) But where should we go when Florida sinks?
A: Who said Florida was going to sink?

Q: (L) Are we chosen?
A: What is chosen? Only you can choose. The choice comes by nature and free will and looking and listening. Where you are is not important. Who you are is and also what you see.

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August 8, 1994


Freddie, Laura, S____

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: S______ would like to have some help with her situation.
A: Open. Be more specific.

Q: She would like to know about this job she is trying to get.
A: Open. That is up to you.

Q: Is this the job she should take or should she concentrate on the flea market?
A: There are several possibilities.

Q: Will she be able to do anything with the flea market?
A: Most likely.

Q: Should she get a job or concentrate on the flea market?
A: Combine.

Q: Is E___ going to jail?
A: That is up to him.

Q: Why has he created this situation in his life?
A: He wants to leave.

Q: Is this situation involving E___ engineered or caused by the aliens?
A: Not entirely.

Q: Did aliens do anything to create emotional turmoil here?
A: They always do.

Q: Is there anything that can be done to help this situation?
A: All is learning.

Q: Should S____ sell her house?
A: That is optional.

Q: Does E___ want to try and work things out?
A: E___ has met someone.

Q: Where did E___ go this weekend?
A: Bimini.

Q: Does E___ have more money than he lets on?
A: A lot offshore?

Q: What do you mean offshore?
A: Caymans.

Q: Is there any way S____ can get access to this?
A: Be careful. E___ is unstable.

Q: How much money are we talking about here?
A: $200,000.

Q: Where did he make this money?
A: Boca Raton.

Q: How did he make it?
A: Crafty investment.

Q: Should S_____ sign the divorce settlement as it is now written?
A: Think it over carefully.

Q: Is there anything she can do to make this situation better at this time?
A: Not much.

Q: Why has E____ gotten himself into this situation with the accident, the divorce and everything else?
A: Karmic lessons for him. And you think about it S_____. Did you not value moneymen too much once before?

Q: She doesn’t think so.
A: Remember your first husband, where did love of money lead him?

Q: S____ says she married for love. It wasn’t very pleasant to have your husband die at that age and she sure had a struggle after he died.
A: Lesson is for S_____. Karmic destiny.

Q: Is this because she may have loved money too much in another life?
A: Extending into this one.

Q: S____ thinks she has learned this lesson by now.
A: Not yet.

Q: S____ wants to know what she can do to end this pattern and stop these awful things from happening in her life?
A: Up to you.

Q: Can’t you be more specific?
A: Stop loving money so much.

Q: But S____ is very generous with her time and money. How can that be loving money so much? And E___ certainly didn’t have any money when she married him.
A: It is subconscious. And what about the first time?

Q: She insists that she married for love.
A: Thought you did.

Q: But what about E___?
A: E___ was recognizably money oriented. You knew this subconsciously.

Q: Well, if all this is subconscious, what can she do about it?
A: Learn to change. S_____ must come out about her previous relationships. She must open up and be honest with herself and others to begin to clear the karma. She must soul search.

Q: But, she says she is doing this now.
A: Come to your senses.

Q: What do you mean?
A: Find that out yourself.

Q: We don’t understand what you mean that S_____ must come to her senses.
A: It is complicated. All is part of lesson.

Q: Well, I have warned her about M___ F___. I think she is playing with fire there.
A: Of course. M___ thinks any woman will come under his spell.

Q: Is he trying to manipulate S___?
A: What do you think?

Q: What is the karmic link there?
A: It’s working.

Q: What is working?
A: His efforts.

Q: Well, S___ thinks she can handle the situation and there is a lot she thinks she can learn from M___.
A: He is not telling the truth.

Q: But he seems to have so much knowledge.
A: That is part of the spell.

Q: Does he know a great deal involving how to control others from a distance? Does he know what he is doing consciously?
A: Not exactly knows.

Q: Well, what does he know?
A: How to visualize.

Q: Why is S____ so fascinated by him?
A: Powerful man.

Q: Well, is this power something he gets from attachments or alien influence?
A: Both.

Q: Well, which is most influential?
A: Even.

Q: S___ thinks she can get what she wants from M____ with no strings attached.
A: Not likely.

Q: Well, what is keeping her involved here?
A: Ask her.

Q: Well, how is she supposed to get the knowledge she wants?
A: There are those that have it but are more cautious.

Q: Does the government know about S____?
A: Yes.

Q: Does the government know about L___?
A: Even more so. You have not been quiet.

Q: What does the government think of L____?
A: Agent provocateur.

Q: How did they find out?
A: Different ways.

Q: Do they tap our phones?
A: Have.

Q: Is Billy Meier lying?
A: Some. Embellish and fake pictures.

Q: Has he been contacted by the good guys or the bad guys?
A: Both.

Q: What can you tell us about A____ B____?
A: Suspicious gentleman.

Q: Is he in the CIA?
A: Used to be in CIA.

Q: Was he an agent?
A: Was a low level clerk.

Q: Well, he says his girl friend was ‘taken out’ by the CIA because of his work. Is this true?
A: Car accident.

Q: Well, why does he tell the story?
A: Embellish.

Q: Where does M____’s information come from? Does he have inside contacts?
A: Fantasy.

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September 30, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) Who are you?
A: Pamthora.

Q: (L) Are you the same individual who communicated with us last week?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are you from the same group?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why are you with us tonight instead of the one who was here last week?
A: Frequency waves.

Q: (L) The frequency waves are different?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Are you better able to communicate with us than the one who was here last week?
A: Same.

Q: (L) I don’t understand what you mean about the frequency waves. Could you elaborate?
A: Too complex.

Q: (L) Okay. Does this mean that you are not going to be able to communicate complex answers to us tonight?
A: No difference

Q: (L) Last week we were talking about Jesus of Nazareth who became the Christ. Can we continue that subject this week?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who was Jesus of Nazareth?
A: Advanced spirit.

Q: (L) Was Jesus born from an immaculate conception; that is did his mother not have sex with a man in order to conceive him?
A: No.

Q: (L) She did have sex with a man in order to conceive him, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who was the man with whom she had sex to conceive Jesus?
A: Tonatha.

Q: (L) And who was this individual, Tonatha?
A: Acquaintance.

Q: (L) How old was Jesus mother, Mary, when she conceived Jesus?
A: 19.

Q: (L) Was Joseph upset to discover that Mary was pregnant?
A: No.

Q: (L) How old was Joseph when he married Mary?
A: 39.

Q: (L) Was Joseph unable to father children?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What date, counting backwards in our calendrical system, was Jesus born on?
A: 01 06 minus 14.

Q: (L) What time of day was he born?
A: 6 am.

Q: (L) Was there any unusual celestial event in terms of star or planet alignments at that time?
A: No.

Q: (L) What was the star the Magi saw in the East that led them to the place where he was born? Was there an event where the Magi came to present gifts?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Who was it that came to present him gifts?
A: 3 prophets.

Q: (L) What country did these prophets come from?
A: Iran. Also known as Persia.

Q: (L) Was Jesus an individual who had psychic or unusual powers from birth?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Did he have an awareness from the earliest times of his life that he was in some way special or chosen?
A: yes.

Q: (L) What was the “star” that indicated to the prophets...
A: Spaceship.

Q: (L) What kind of space ship?
A: Mother.

Q: (L) Where did this mothership come from?
A: Other realm.

Q: (L) Does that mean other realm as in dimension or density?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do we know of these other realms or densities as other star systems or planets?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) Jesus grew up to the age of twelve, at which point he was Bar Mitzvahed, is that correct?
A: He was Bar Mitzvahed at the age of 10.

Q: (L) Did he at that time receive training elsewhere?
A: Aramaic rite.

Q: (L) Did Jesus, during the course of his growing up years travel to other countries and study under other masters?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where did he receive his teaching or training?
A: Channeled to him.

Q: (L) Did he at any point in his life travel to India?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did he travel to Egypt and undergo an initiation in the Great Pyramid?
A: No.

Q: (L) He lived his entire life in Palestine?
A: Near. In that general area. The Bible is not entirely accurate.

Q: (L) When Jesus attended the marriage at Cana, whose wedding was it?
A: Did not happen.

Q: (L) Did Jesus feed thousands of people with a few loaves and fishes?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are you saying that all the miracles of the Bible are myths?
A: Remember this is corrupted information altered after the fact for purposes of political and economic gain and control.

Q: (L) Tell us what Jesus really did.
A: He taught spiritual truths to those starving for them.

Q: (L) And what was the basis of these spiritual truths?
A: Channeled information from higher sources.

Q: (L) What is the truth that Jesus taught?
A: That all men are loved by the creator and are one with same.

Q: (L) Did he perform miracles?
A: Some.

Q: (L) Can you tell us about one or two of them?
A: Healing.

Q: (L) Was he able to literally heal with the touch of his hand?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he perform exorcisms?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is Reiki the method he used to heal; or something similar?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any way to enhance the Reiki energy to make it powerful enough that one could do in a very short time what now takes quite a while?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What can one do to enhance the Reiki energy?
A: Attain lofty spiritual purity.

Q: (L) I have here two sets of Reiki symbols; which set is the correct or most powerful set: the first set or the second? [Holds up two sets of symbols]
A: The second set.

Q: (L) Are these the original Reiki symbols as given to Dr. Usui?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Are the Reiki symbols in the possession of C__ H__ the correct symbols?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are the symbols that A__ B__ is using correct?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is A__ B___ able to transmit the initiation in a full and powerful way?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is she just wasting her time thinking she is doing the transmitting?
A: Yours.

Q: (L) Is there someone I could go to for the correct initiation?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do I know that person?
A: No.

Q: (L) Who do I know that may know that person?
A: H___ D___. V__ has strongest ability.

Q: (L) Does this mean that V___ has the strongest Reiki ability of us all?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is her Reiki more powerful than my Reiki?
A: Yes. S___ has no ability. Crosses yours out.

Q: (L) Are you saying that S___ has given me Reiki that has cancelled my own Reiki out?
A: Precisely.

Q: (L) We did four hypnosis sessions with S___ where she discussed abduction experiences and so forth. Was any of that information that she gave embellished in any way?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was it embellished consciously or unconsciously?
A: Both.

Q: (L) Was she actually abducted by aliens?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the purpose of her abduction? What were the aliens trying to do with or to her?
A: Vaginal probe.

Q: (L) For what purpose?
A: Reproductive efficacy.

Q: (L) But S____ has had a hysterectomy.
A: They found none.

Q: (L) Was she abducted more than one time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many times has she been abducted?
A: 52.

Q: (L) How many times has Fred been abducted?
A: 53

Q: (L) Why have they been abducting Fred?
A: Mind.

Q: (L) What about his mind?
A: Programmed by advanced powers.

Q: (L) Did they abduct S___ 52 time just to do a vaginal probe?
A: No. That was the most recent.

Q: (L) What were all the previous ones for?
A: Study mind and tap emotions.

Q: (L) In other words, they have tapped her emotions?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they feed off of her emotions?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they feed off Freddie’s emotions?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any way to break that tap?
A: It is not continuous.

Q: (L) Do they tap my emotions?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this for our benefit?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are they bad guys who have been doing this?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any way we can disconnect these taps?
A: Keep channeling and meditating.

Q: (L) What does the channeling do to break the tap?
A: Informs.

Q: (L) Let’s go back to Jesus. Are the only miracles he did healing?
A: No.

Q: (L) What other kinds of miracles did he do?
A: Telekinesis.

Q: (L) Did he walk on water?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did he turn water into wine?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are these all just stories?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the purpose of the stories?
A: Control.

Q: (L) Was Jesus crucified?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was somebody crucified?
A: Too vague.

Q: (L) Was somebody crucified on a cross and represented to be Jesus?
A: No.

Q: (L) There was no crucifixion, there was no resurrection after three days, is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Okay, what is the truth on that matter?
A: Left earth plane on ship after extended sleep state.

Q: (L) When did he go into this sleep state? Did he just go in one day and go to bed and go to sleep and then a ship came and picked him up?
A: Close.

Q: (L) So he appeared to his followers to have died?
A: They thought this.

Q: (L) Did he get up and say anything to anybody before he left on the ship?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he come back to life...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And then he told them things he had seen in his extended meditative sleep, is that what happened?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Okay, what happened?
A: Told prophecies then proclaimed eventual return.

Q: (L) Was this information he got during this period of extended sleep?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How long was he asleep, or in this state of semi-death?
A: 98 hours.

Q: (L) And then, a ship arrived and took him away, is that correct?
A: Yes. Upon pillar of light.

Q: (L) Are there any other miracles he did that are outstanding?
A: Miracles are subjective.

Q: (L) Did he raise Lazarus from the dead?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did he raise anybody from the dead?
A: No.

Q: (L) Okay, when he got to this other plane, what did he do?
A: Vague question.

Q: (L) Is there any special power or advantage in praying in the name of Jesus?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, if he didn’t die and release his spirit into the earth plane, how is this power conferred?
A: Prayers go to him.

Q: (L) And what does he do when he hears the prayers?
A: Determines their necessity against background of individual soul development.

Q: (L) You said that when a person prays to Jesus that he makes some sort of a decision, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, how can he do that when millions of people are praying to him simultaneously?
A: Soul division.

Q: (L) What do you mean by soul division?
A: Self explanatory.

Q: (L) Do you mean soul division as in cellular meiosis where a cell splits and replicates itself?
A: No.

Q: (L) Does Jesus’ soul divide?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many times does it divide?
A: Endlessly as a projection of consciousness.

Q: (L) And what happens to this piece of soul that is divided or projected?
A: Is not a piece of a soul.

Q: (L) What is it?
A: It is a replication.

Q: (L) Is each replication exactly identical to the original?
A: Yes. And no.

Q: (L) In what way is the replicated soul different from the original?
A: Not able to give individual attention.

Q: (L) Are any of us able to replicate in this manner if we so desire?
A: Could if in same circumstance. The way the process works is thus: When Jesus left the earth plane, he went into another dimension or density of reality, whereupon all “rules” regarding the awareness of time and space are entirely different from the way they are perceived here. At this point in space time his soul which was/is still in the physical realm, was placed in a state of something akin to suspended animation and a sort of advanced form of unconsciousness. From that point to the present his soul has been replicated from a state of this unconsciousness in order that all who call upon him or need to be with him or need to speak to him can do so on an individual basis. His soul can be replicated ad infinitum—as many times as needed. The replication process produces a state of hyper-consciousness in each and every version of the soul consciousness.

Q: (L) Who was Jack the Ripper?
A: Dr. Bates.

Q: (L) Did he commit suicide and is that why the Ripper killings stopped?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did he just stop doing it?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why did he do it?
A: Experiment human organs; he was a mad surgeon.

Q: (L) Was Adolf Hitler possessed by demons or evil spirits?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Was Adolf Hitler under the control of the negatively oriented aliens?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Where is Adolf Hitler now?
A: Sleeping.

Q: (L) How long will he sleep?
A: Indefinite.

Q: (L) Will Adolf Hitler return to incarnation at some point in the future?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Can you predict what kind of life he will lead in his future incarnation?
A: No.

Q: (L) The passages attributed to Jesus in Matthew 24 and Luke 21, where Jesus predicts the end of the age and his return, is that fairly accurately rendered?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is Jesus, in fact, in a state of suspension, voluntarily, in another plane of existence, having chosen to give up his life on this plane in order to continuously generate replications of his soul pattern for other people to call upon for assistance?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) If one calls upon him more than once, does one get a double dose?
A: Define.

Q: (L) If one repeatedly calls upon Jesus does one get repeated replications or additional strength, power or whatever?
A: No.

Q: (L) In other words, once one has truly made the connection, that’s it?
A: That’s all that’s needed.

Q: (L) Has any other soul volunteered to perform this work?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many souls are doing this work at the present time?
A: 12.

Q: (L) Can you name any of the others?
A: Bhudda. Moses. Shintanhilmoon. Nagaillikiga. Varying degrees; Jesus is the strongest currently.

Q: (L) What year did the Exodus occur counting backward from now according to our calendrical system?
A: 4670.

Q: (L) At that time did a cometary Venus pass close to the earth and cause disruption?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was Venus born from the planet Jupiter?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did it appear in the sky from the area of Jupiter?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the earth knocked into a new orbital position because of this activity? Is an event of this type going to take place in the not- too-distant future?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Did an event of this type take place at the time of the flood of Noah?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many years ago did the flood of Noah occur?
A: 12656.

Q: (L) Was Noah an actual historical person?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Was Noah the same person described in the Babylonian texts as Utnapishtim?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Which is the older civilization: Sumerian or Egyptian?
A: Sumerian.

Q: (L) Who were Enlil and Enki of Sumerian stories?
A: Great teachers.

Q: (L) Were they human or extraterrestrial?
A: Extraterrestrial.

Q: (L) Where did they come from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Was the human race genetically engineered to be slaves?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And who were the genetic engineers of this slavehood?
A: Lizard beings.

Q: (L) Where do they come from: earth or another planet?
A: Other.

Q: (L) What planet from?
A: Qaddeera.

Q: (L) What star system is that in?
A: Zeta Reticuli.

Q: (L) Are the little gray beings from Zeta Reticuli also?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the little gray beings...
A: Cybergenetic.

Q: (L) Are they created by the lizards?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they have souls?
A: They are Decoys.

Q: (L) Are the Lizzies currently with us?
A: Near.

Q: (L) Are the Lizzies planning to take over our planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they planning on landing and doing this openly?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Do they utilize such things as possession by dark energy forms to effect their control?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What other groups are they in cahoots with?
A: Orions.

Q: (L) How many members are there in the Orion/Lizzie group?
A: 16.

Q: (L) Who are the good guys? You say the Cassiopaeans are the good guys. Who else?
A: Pleiadeans and many others.

Q: (L) How many?
A: 16.

Q: (L) Are the sides equally balanced?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do the good guys abduct people?
A: No. They may contact and voluntarily transport.

Q: (L) Who really killed Abraham Lincoln?
A: Booth. Conspiracy.

Q: (L) Who was the head of the conspiracy?
A: Booth. But was not caught; was patsy stand in.

Q: (L) Was the story of Noah’s flood the story of the breaking up of Atlantis?
A: Yes. But symbolic.

Q: (L) How many people were on the planet at that time?
A: 6 billion.

Q: (L) Out of this six billion people, how many survived?
A: 119 million.

Q: (L) Was Noah’s flood caused by the close passage of another celestial body?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Which body was that?
A: Martek.

Q: (L) Do we know this body in our solar system now?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What name?
A: Mars.

Q: (L) Was Martek an inhabited planet at that time?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did it have water or other features?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) When it passed close to the earth did it, in fact, overload our planet with water we did not have prior to that time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did we, prior to that time, have a water-vapor canopy surrounding our planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this the time of the major dying of the large dinosaurs?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What event transpired to kill off most of the dinosaurs?
A: Beasts.

Q: (L) What kind of beasts?
A: Mastodon, sabertooth tiger, giant sloth, etc.

Q: (L) Was it a cosmic event that brought about the death of some of the largest dinosaurs?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) It did not happen at the time of Noah, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did it happen before the flood of Noah?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many thousands of years ago counting backward?
A: 27 million years ago.

Q: (L) What event took place at that time that caused the death of the dinosaurs?
A: Comet impact.

Q: (L) Did a comet actually strike the earth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was it a large comet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How large?
A: 18 miles diameter.

Q: (L) Is there any regular periodicity or cycle to this comet business?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the period?
A: 3600 years roughly.

Q: (L) Was Velikovsky correct when he said Venus was on a 52 year orbit during a certain period in our history?
A: Close.

Q: (L) How many passes did Venus make through the solar system before it was precipitated into a regular planetary orbit?
A: 7

Q: (L) Where did Venus originally come from?
A: 19 light years away.

Q: (L) So, it is actually an extra-solar system visitor?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it true that at regular intervals the sun radiates massive amounts of electromagnetic energy which then causes the planets of the solar system to interact with one another to a greater or lesser extent?
A: Other irregular pulsations determined by external vibrational events.

Q: (L) The sun is not the source of the periodicity of “dyings”, is that correct?
A: Sometimes. Many causes.

Q: (L) Well what is the cause that recurs like clockwork? Is there some cause that is a regular pulsation?
A: Cometary showers.

Q: (L) Where are these cometary showers from?
A: Clusters in own orbit.

Q: (L) Where is the orbit of these clusters? Is it the Oort cloud?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where is the orbit of clusters of comets located?
A: More specific.

Q: (L) A specific orbit containing clusters of comets?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this cluster of comets orbit around the sun?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the orbit perpendicular to the plane of the ecliptic?
A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) Does this cluster come into the plane of the ecliptic and cause havoc in the solar system?
A: Exactly.

Q: (L) How often does this cluster of comets come into the plane of the ecliptic?
A: 3600 years.

Q: (L) Is this cluster of comets the remains of a planet?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is the cluster of fragments in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter the remains of a planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was that planet known as?
A: Kantek.

Q: (L) When did that planet break apart into the asteroid belt?
A: 79 thousand years ago approximately.

Q: (L) What body were the Sumerians talking about when they described the Planet of the crossing or Nibiru?
A: Comets.

Q: (L) This body of comets?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does this cluster of comets appear to be a single body?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this the same object that is rumored to be on its way here at the present time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who were the Anunnaki?
A: Aliens.

Q: (L) Where were they from?
A: Zeta Reticuli?

Q: (L) Do they come here every time the comet cluster is approaching to sap the souls energy created by the fear, chaos and so forth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) The two events are loosely interrelated?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is that why they are here now?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is there a large fleet of space-ships riding a wave, so to speak, approaching our planet?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where are these ships from?
A: Zeta Reticuli.

Q: (L) When will they arrive?
A: 1 month to 18 years.

Q: (L) How can there be such a vast discrepancy in the time?
A: This is such a huge fleet that space/time warping is irregular and difficult to determine as you measure time.

Q: (L) Are these craft riding a “wave” of some sort?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many planets are in our solar system?
A: 12

Q: (L) Could you tell us the names of all the planets, their distances from the sun, the chemical composition, and the diameter.



Distance from Sun


Chemical Composition


36 million miles from Sun

3000 mi dia.



67 million miles from Sun

7,500 mi. dia.



93 million miles from Sun

7,900 mi. dia.



141,500,000 miles from Sun

4,200 mi. dia.



483,400,000 miles from Sun

88,700 mi. dia.



886,700,000 miles from Sun

74,500 mi. dia.



1,782,700,000 miles from Sun

31,566 mi. dia.



2,794,300,000 miles from Sun

30,199 mi. dia.



3,666,100,000 miles from Sun

1,864 mi. dia.



570,000,000,000 miles from Sun

7,000 mi. dia.

solid matter


830,000,000,000 miles from Sun

18,000 mi. dia.

hydrogen, ammonia


1,600,000,000,000 miles from Sun

46,000 mi. dia.

hydrogen, ammonia

End of Session


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October 5, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: Hello.
A: You are good to do it this way without ritual.

Q: (L) What ritual do you want us to do?
A: None.

Q: (L) Does ritual enhance or prevent communication?
A: Constricts.

Q: (L) What is your name?
A: Donarra.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Why is it every time we communicate with you Cassiopaeans we get a different person?
A: Energy disbursement.

Q: (L) Who is the energy disbursed to?
A: The next in order.

Q: (L) Does that mean that you utilize our energy to disburse?
A: No. We disburse.

Q: (L) We have a series of questions we want to ask.
A: Go ahead.

Q: (L) Assuming there is a fleet of spacecraft riding a wave, and approaching from the vicinity of Zeta Reticuli, what does it mean to say that the space time warp is indefinite in terms of arrival? Why is this? Please specify.
A: Mass affects electromagnetic transfer within gravity wave.

Q: (L) In other words, if there is a large mass you are trying to transfer, is the problem partly because the mass itself spreads out over such a large area of space/time and must be transferred in stages or something along that line?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Can you help us out anymore here?
A: Mass affects time cycle: small equal short cycle; large or dense equals long cycle.

Q: (L) We would also like to have more information on earth changes. Is the Japanese earthquake that just happened as you predicted last week, the last of the Japanese problem?
(An entire session had been lost due to tape malfunction.)
A: No.

Q: (L) Can you give us more on that...
A: There will be activity about 8.9: 67 miles off Osaka coast; 9.7: central Tokyo.

Q: (L) Are all of these going to happen within this year?
A: No. Within 1.6 years.

Q: (L) I would like more details about the man you say is the biological father of Jesus. Once again, what is his name?
A: Tonatha.

Q: (L) You said he was an acquaintance of Mary’s?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was he selected for some reason to be the biological father of Jesus by other beings or powers.
A: Close.

Q: (L) Can you give us any details about him. What was his lineage, where did he come from, etc.
A: He was a member of the white sect.

Q: (L) What is the white sect?
A: AKA Aryans. Andarans.
(Laura’s note: Who are the Andarans?)

Q: (L) Was Mary a member of the Essene group?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this man also a member of the Essenes?
A: No.

Q: (L) This person, Tonatha, was chosen to be the biological father of Jesus?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why did Mary not marry him?
A: Feelings were extremely transient.

Q: (L) You are saying she was fickle?
A: No. Influenced by telepathic suggestion.

Q: (L) Was she already betrothed at this time?
A: No. Hypnotized level 1.

Q: (L) Did Mary and Joseph, once together, subsequently have other children?
A: No. But Jesus did.

Q: (L) Jesus had children? Who was he married to?
A: Was not.

Q: (L) You mean he had illegitimate children?
A: Subjective institutionally.

Q: (L) Who was the mother of these children?
A: There were three women.

Q: (L) There were three women?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are they mentioned in the Bible?
A: One is but not by name.

Q: (L) Who was one of them?
A: Alicia.

Q: (L) What was the name of the second one?
A: Rafea.

Q: (L) The third one?
A: Vella. Romans.

Q: (L) All three of them were Romans?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And what happened to the children?
A: Survived and multiplied fruitfully.

Q: (L) How many children were there from the three mothers?
A: Three.

Q: (L) Is that, as some people claim, the true meaning of the search for the Holy Grail, that it is not a cup but the “Sang Real”, or holy blood line?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there any descendants of Jesus living today?
A: 364,142.

Q: (L) Was Jesus Christed in the sense of having some special mantle of power falling over him at the time of his baptism?
A: Nearly correct.

Q: (L) Is Guyana a relatively safe place in terms of earth crustal movements, earth changes, etc.
A: What is? Earth includes all planet surface.

Q: (L) Are there any places that are going to be safer than others?
A: Changeable.

Q: (L) Is the North Caroline/blue ridge Mountain area relatively safe?
A: What did I just tell you? Depends on vibrational frequency changes. No specific earth changes are accurately predictable until near event.

Q: (LM) Ask what happened to those people that just died in Switzerland. Were they murdered?
A: Pact. Agreement. Covenant.

Q: (L) They all made a pact to commit suicide together?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why? How many were there?
A: 48. Religious zealously.

Q: (L) Did the United States government deliberately murder the Branch Davidians at Waco?
A: Close. Led them to destroy themselves.

Q: (L) How?
A: Psychological warfare tactics.

Q: (L) Did the US government set their compound on fire?
A: No.

Q: (L) Who set the compound on fire?
A: Branch Davidians. Drove them crazy.

Q: (L) Were ELF or subliminals used?
A: Yes. As well as other means.

Q: (L) Did OJ Simpson kill his wife?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did he take the murder clothes and weapon to Chicago and leave it there in a bag?
A: No.

Q: (L) Where is it?
A: LA dump. One of them.

Q: (L) Is OJ Simpson going to be found guilty?
A: No.

Q: (L) What gifts did the magi/prophets bring to Jesus as a baby?
A: Gold; spices; clothing.

Q: (L) What other realm did the mother ship come from that was sighted by the magi?
A: 5th density.

Q: (L) And what was the purpose of the appearance of this mother ship at the time of the birth of Jesus?
A: Too vague.

Q: (L) Was it here for specific purposes relating to the birth of Jesus?
A: To lead the prophets.

Q: (L) Was that the main purpose?
A: No. Also observation of event and encoding.

Q: (L) Encoding of what?
A: Infant.

Q: (L) Was that encoding done physically or telepathically?
A: Both.

Q: (L) What realm or area did Jesus come from before he was born into the earth in the body of Jesus of Nazareth?
A: 5th density.

Q: (L) He was a fifth density soul?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Had he had any other incarnations in other human bodies on planet earth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many incarnations did he have before he achieved fifth density?
A: 1009.

Q: (L) Was Melchizidek an incarnation of Jesus?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was Joshua, the right hand man of Moses an incarnation of Jesus?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there any other incarnations of Jesus with which we would be familiar if you were to name them?
A: Yes. Socrates.

Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to John the Baptist?
A: Pact.

Q: (L) What was the spiritual relationship of Jesus to Mary, his mother?
A: Pact.

Q: (L) There was no other spiritual relationship in the sense of being combined souls?
A: No.

Q: (L) Were either Mary or John the Baptist fifth density souls?
A: Both.

Q: (L) Are there any fifth density souls on the earth today or any of recent times we would recognize?
A: Yes. Arafat. Sadat. Pope John V.

Q: (L) Do demons and evil spirits fear anything?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do they fear any power that we, as humans, possess?
A: Yes. Knowledge.

Q: (L) Do they fear religious symbols, signs or figures?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is there any name or sign or symbol that can halt their activity?
A: Sometimes.

Q: (L) Were they afraid of Christ?
A: Yes. Because of his knowledge. The mass of his knowledge raised his vibrations. Knowledge is truly power.

Q: (L) Do pentagrams have any effect in slowing down or halting negative entities?
A: Only if you think they do.

Q: (L) Is the greatest power we have to resist demonic entities held in our free will: our power to say no?
A: No.

Q: (L) What is our greatest power?
A: Knowledge.

Q: (L) Does the accumulation of spiritual knowledge hold the key?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is there any other clue you can give us?
A: You do not need anything else than knowledge.

Q: (L) You said the Exodus occurred in 2676 B.C., is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Was that the last passage of the cometary Venus?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was this activity of Venus interactive with the close passing of the cluster of comets you have mentioned?
A: Close. One of three cataclysms close together.

Q: (L) If Venus was one of the cataclysms and the cluster of comets was another, what was the third?
A: Mars.

Q: (L) Was Mars knocked out of it’s orbit by Venus?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And the two appeared to do battle in the sky to the inhabitants of the earth as Velikovsky described, is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Now, this cluster of comets, when was the last time it came into the solar system?
A: 3582 yrs ago?

Q: (L) What is the cycle?
A: 3600 yrs.

Q: (L) So, when is this cluster expected to hit the plane of the ecliptic again?
A: 12 to 18 years. (now 1994)

Q: (L) Are the aliens traveling with this cluster of comets?
A: No.

Q: (L) What land did Noah/Utnapishtim live in, what continent?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) Where did the ark land after the receding of the waters?
A: Egypt.

Q: (L) What caused Martek to pass close to the earth at that time since that was many thousands of years before the Venus interaction?
A: Planetary alignment gravitational aberration related to Venus.

Q: (L) So, there was a planetary line-up that caused Mars to be pulled out of its orbit?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the event a hundred or so years after the flood of Noah that was described as the confusing of languages, or the tower of Babel?
A: Spiritual confluence.

Q: (L) What purpose did the individuals who came together to build the tower intend for said tower?
A: Electromagnetic concentration of all gravity waves.

Q: (L) And what did they intend to do with these concentrated waves?
A: Mind alteration of masses.

Q: (L) What intention did they have in altering the mind of the masses?
A: Spiritual unification of the masses.

Q: (L) Who were the “gods” that looked down on the tower of Babel, at those who were building it with the intention of unification, and decided to destroy their works?
A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Okay, so the Lizzies blew up the tower of Babel. What else did they do to the minds of mankind; did they do something causing literal disruption of their understanding of language?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What tool did they use to accomplish this divisiveness?
A: Brainwashing of masses.

Q: (L) Did they do this through implants and abduction?
A: Partly.

Q: (L) What is the true meaning, the original meaning, of the Hebrew word “shem”?
A: Purity.

Q: (L) Why was this word related to the obelisks or standing stones later called “shems” by the Hebrews?
A: Symbolic of purity: unification. Uniformity.

Q: (L) Did these stones themselves actually possess any power?
A: Residual.

Q: (L) What object were the ancients going to place in the tower of Babel to...
A: Crystal.

Q: (L) Is “shem” also synonymous with “crystal”?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Shem, the son of Noah, was the ancestor of the group that built the tower, is this correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed and the other cities of the plain? And by whom?
A: Nuclear; EM pulse. Who else?

Q: (L) The lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why?
A: To implant fear and obedience.

Q: (L) Weren’t the Sodom and Gomorrans really evil and bad doing sodomy and Gomorrahy?
A: That is a deception of history.

Q: (L) Did Lot’s wife get turned into a pillar of salt?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is there any symbolism in that particular story for us today?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was the god who communicated with Abraham one of the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the pact that Abraham made with the Lizzies?
A: Yes. Not directly.

Q: (L) Was Melchizidek a priest of the Lizzies?
A: No.

Q: (L) Did Melchizidek give Abraham the true information?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is the Kaballah the true teachings of the good guys?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Is the Osirian cycle the exemplification of the action of the Lizzies upon mankind in terms of the cutting up of Osiris’ body as the breaking apart of the strands of DNA?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What was the Fruit of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that was supposedly eaten by Eve and then offered to Adam?
A: Knowledge restriction. Encoding.

Q: (L) What did it mean when it said Eve ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. What act did she perform to do that?
A: Consorted with wrong side.

Q: (L) What does consorted mean?
A: Eve is symbolic.

Q: (L) Symbolic of what?
A: Female energy.

Q: (L) The female energy did what when it consorted?
A: Lost some knowledge and power.

Q: (L) Why was the eating of the fruit of this tree called knowledge of good and evil feared by god or gods to enable Eve to be equated with gods?
A: What? Clarify please.

Q: (L) Who was the god that feared that the eating of this fruit would make Eve equal to him or them?
A: No.

Q: (L) The Bible says that God said that they were afraid that they would now take hold of the fruit of the tree of life and live forever. What does this mean? Why did the eating of this fruit make god afraid?
A: Did not.

Q: (L) What was the fruit of the tree of life?
A: Limitation.

Q: (L) How can the fruit of the tree of eternal life be limitation?
A: Conceptually limited.

Q: (L) I want you to know that this does not make a whole lot of sense.
A: Yes it does. Think carefully.

Q: (L) Was the god who walked in the garden who warned Adam and Eve not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, was that the original creator god? i.e. the good guy?
A: No.

Q: (L) Who was that god who ordered them not to eat of this tree?
A: Complicated. Laura you are missing the obvious.

Q: (L) In what sense would the fruit of the tree of life be limiting?
A: Believing that one source contains all knowledge is contradicting reality.

Q: (L) What was the flaming sword barring re-entry to Eden?
A: Do you not understand?

Q: (L) No I do not understand.
A: Review.

Q: (F) If the concept was the eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge provides all knowledge, then one is being deceived, because no one particular source can provide all knowledge. Therefore, when one believes in the deception, one has now trapped oneself within parameters. And, forevermore, the human race, will be poisoned by the very same problem which is reflected in several different ways: one is always seeking the truth through one pathway instead of seeking it through a myriad of pathways; and also believing in simplistic answers to very complex issues and questions.
(L) What was the flaming sword barring re-entry into the garden of Eden?
A: Symbolizes trap.

Q: (L) A self-imposed flaming sword?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where was Eden?
A: Earth.

Q: (L) The entire earth was Eden?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the “fall” in Eden, or the loss of the Edenic state, also accompanied by a cataclysm?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the nature of that cataclysm?
A: Comets.

Q: (L) The cluster you have mentioned before?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, how long ago did this occur?
A: 309882 years ago.

Q: (L) Was the loss of the Edenic state also accompanied by a takeover of mankind by the Lizzies?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who were the original creator gods?
A: Us. Sixth Density.

Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans? Were the Pleiadeans also the original creator gods?
A: Same. Sixth Density.

Q: (L) What was the true identity of the serpent in Eden?
A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Who built the great pyramid?
A: Atlanteans.

Q: (L) What year was it built?
A: 10643 years ago.

Q: (L) Why was it built? What purpose was it used for?
A: Capture cosmic energy.

Q: (L) And what was this cosmic energy used for once it was captured?
A: Many things. Power, transport, healing, mind control, climate, etcetera.

Q: (L) Who built the sphinx?
A: Same.

Q: (L) Was the sphinx built at the same time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why was the sphinx built? What was its purpose?
A: Temple.

Q: (L) Are there records buried under the sphinx?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What happened to Neanderthal man?
A: Removed by Lizzies to other planets.

Q: (L) Is that removed as in taken off the planet physically?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What planet were they taken to?
A: Others.

Q: (L) Of the several places around this country that we have thought about moving, which one would we be happiest in?
A: Indefinite.

Q: (L) Would we be happy in the Blue Mountains in Oregon.
A: Not determinable.

Q: (L) Shouldn’t you be able to give prophetic insights?
A: Too many variables in this matter.

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October 7, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: (L) What’s your name?
A: Bayreera.

Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Are you the next in line for the energy disbursement?
A: Precisely. You are learning well.

Q: (L) Are you disbursing the energy to us?
A: No.

Q: (L) Are we giving energy to you?
A: Near. Our disbursement is akin to taking turns.

Q: (L) Is there an advantage to taking turns as opposed to having one communicant?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What is the advantage?
A: Energy equalization.

Q: (L) Is it difficult for you to make contact with us?
A: No.

Q: (L) Would it be difficult for you to make contact with others?
A: Becoming easier with you.

Q: (L) I would like to know the time of the great dying of the major dinosaurs, the big critters?
A: 27 million years as measured by your scale.

Q: (L) Regarding the “Fall” in Eden and the loss of the Edenic state, how long ago did that happen?
A: 309000 years ago approx.

Q: (L) What was the situation... what happened... what was the state of mankind?
A: Loss of faith caused knowledge and physical restrictions by outside forces.

Q: (L) What did the snake or the “tempter” represent?
A: Forces known to you as Lizzies; we have already taught you this.

Q: (L) I am just checking!
A: Faith dear.

Q: (L) I’m having faith, I’m just checking.
A: Suit yourself.

Q: (L) Who were the original genetic engineers of the human race?
A: Us.

Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans, correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) For what purpose did you genetically engineer us? Was it a mandate from God?
A: Soul development or advancement.

Q: (L) The Sumerian story of the creation of human beings involves a story where they say they killed a god and mixed his blood and parts to mix with mud and then planted it in these female “gestation” goddesses and that this is where the human race came from. Now, this sounds an awful lot like what the “Grays” are doing at the present time. Did someone actually kill a “god”, break his soul in pieces, and thereby make the human race?
A: Symbolism and not correct event sequence.

Q: (L) What was that story about? What was the real seed event?
A: Lizard beings genetically altering the human race after battle for their own feeding purposes.

Q: (L) When did these events that these Sumerian stories are talking about take place?
A: 309000 years ago, approx.

Q: (L) So, it happened so long ago that these stories have lost the truth?
A: Reflection passed down through psychic memory channel.

Q: (L) What killed off the major dinosaurs?
A: Comet impact.

Q: (L) What was the source of this comet?
A: Cluster.

Q: (L) How long has this comet cluster been with us in our solar system?
A: 890 million years.

Q: (L) What was the origin of this comet cluster? Was it originally a large planet?
A: No.

Q: (L) You said the other night that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter that was destroyed and became the asteroid belt. Was this planet ever inhabited by sentient beings?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What caused this planet to be destroyed?
A: Psychic energy.

Q: (L) And where did the beings come from that lived on this planet? Did they evolve there?
A: No.

Q: (L) Were they also, like us, created beings?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who created them?
A: Same.

Q: (L) The Cassiopaeans?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, who created the Cassiopaeans?
A: Your super ancient spiritual ancestors.

Q: (L) Do these beings have a name?
A: No.

Q: (L) What are they called?
A: Transient passengers.

Q: (L) Where are these “Transient Passengers” From?
A: Too difficult to explain on this medium; lengthy.

Q: (L) What is the closest you know to the original God/Creator force?
A: Seek other media. Computer.

Q: (L) This cluster of comets that you talk about that caused an impact, did one of the cluster impact the earth at the time of they dinosaurs dying?
A: No one was large enough for event.

Q: (L) Was it some of these comets in the cluster that hit the earth?
A: Yes. 14 hit at that occasion.

Q: (L) Does this cluster of comets orbit around the Sun?
A: Yes. Your government already knows they’re coming close again.

Q: (L) You said that the orbit is around the Sun. Where does it enter the plane of the ecliptic?
A: Varies.

Q: (L) Does it enter between Mars and Jupiter, for example?
A: Sometimes.

Q: (L) Is the orbit perpendicular to the plane of the ecliptic? Or is it at an angle?
A: In between.

Q: (L) What degrees of angle does it intersect the plane of the ecliptic?
A: Not correct idea structure. Picture a spirograph.

Q: (L) Do the comets orbit around themselves. Do they have a sort of axis?
A: No.

Q: (L) How many are in this cluster?
A: Varies.

Q: (L) Do they lose or pick any up from time to time?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How big is the biggest one at this time?
A: 900 miles diameter. Spirograph.

Q: (L) The planet that was destroyed between Jupiter and Mars, you said was destroyed by psychic energy?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the source of this psychic energy?
A: Beings inhabiting the planet.

Q: (L) Do beings in this area of the galaxy just sort of destroy their planets from time to time? Is this getting to be a habit?
A: Close. Has been.

Q: (L) Did any of those beings leave that planet and come to earth?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who were they? Were they humans like us?
A: Blond and blue eyed descendants.

Q: (L) Was that a colder planet?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was that planet much like earth?
A: Yes. Blue eyes. Eye pigment was because planet was farther from Sol.

Q: (L) How did the people of that planet come to earth? Did they know it was going to be destroyed?
A: Some knew and were taken by Lizzies and they are the Anunnaki.

Q: (L) Now, you say that the father of Jesus was an Aryan. Where did he come from?
A: Palestine.

Q: (L) What is the origin of the Aryan race?
A: 5th planet now know as asteroid belt.

Q: (L) When did they come to earth?
A: 80 thousand years ago? Difficult for us to use your measuring system.

Q: (L) Were they similar in form and structure to what they are now?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why is it that our scientists have not been able to uncover evidence of such ancient existence?
A: They have. Do not want to acknowledge it.

Q: (L) Where do the Celts come from?
A: Same. Ferocious people. Came from fifth planet.

Q: (L) When was that planet destroyed?
A: 80 thousand years ago.

Q: (L) Were any of the descendants of Jesus famous individuals that we would know?
A: Yes. Yassar Arafat. Churchill.

Q: (L) You said that the Exodus occurred in 2676; is that B.C. or years ago?
A: B.C.

Q: (L) If the Exodus occurred in 2676 B.C., that is 4,670 years ago more or less, this would mean that this was not related to the comet cluster which came in 1588 B.C.
A: Correct.

Q: (L) Then, the comet cluster came by 8,788 B.C., is that correct?
A: Close enough.

Q: (L) Was there any historical cataclysm recorded in history that we could relate to that passing?
A: No.

Q: (L) And Noah’s flood occurred 12,388 B.C., is that correct?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Now, the time of the passage of Venus was the time of the Exodus, is that correct? Was Venus a result of this cluster of comets?
A: Semi-stimulated by gravitational pull.

Q: (L) Venus was stimulated by the gravitational pull?
A: Attracted.

Q: (L) Venus was drawn into the solar system by the gravitational pull of the cluster of comets?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where did Venus get all its gases and clouds and so forth? What was its origin? Where did it get all this stuff?
A: Collected during fiery, friction filled journey and space matter in general.

Q: (L) Where was Venus originally from?
A: Ancient wanderer from near Arcturus.

Q: (L) What are Mars’ moons?
A: Disguised bases.

Q: (L) Who built them?
A: Who else? The Lizzies.

Q: (L) The film I saw at AB’s house, the Mars landing, was that an actual film of a Mars landing?
A: False.

Q: (L) Has there been a landing on Mars by the United States?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is Al Bielek a phony?
A: Semi.

Q: (L) Did he work on the Philadelphia project?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was he brainwashed to have fake outrageous memories?
A: No.

Q: (L) Is he lying deliberately?
A: Instructed by government for disinformation dissemination.

Q: (L) Did a space craft of the Lizzies piloted by the Grays crash in Roswell?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What caused the crash?
A: Ionization.

Q: (L) Were the bodies and the craft recovered by the United States Government?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are the Majestic 12 documents...
A: Semi-factual.

Q: (L) Were they dummied up?
A: Near.

Q: (L) Who did this and why?
A: To leak information and disinformation. Many were involved. ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence) and CIA (Central Intelligence Agency).

Q: (L) Is the information in the book “Majestic” factual?
A: Semi-factual. There are many glaring falsehoods.

Q: (L) What is the source of the Native American Indians?
A: Asia.

Q: (L) Across the Bering Strait?
A: No. Rescued. Transferred.

Q: (L) By whom?
A: Grays.

Q: (L) What were they rescued out of?
A: Cataclysm.

Q: (L) When did that cataclysm occur?
A: 7200 years ago approx.

Q: (L) What was the nature of that cataclysm?
A: Comets.

Q: (L) Where do the Basques come from?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) Is their language the Atlantean language?
A: Derivative.

Q: (L) Which came first, the Sumerians of the Egyptians.
A: Sumerians.

Q: (L) Where did the Egyptians come from?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) Which came first, the Sumerians or Atlanteans?
A: Atlanteans.

Q: (L) Were the Sumerians a high civilization at the same time the Atlanteans were?
A: After.

Q: (L) Did the Atlanteans go to Sumeria and afterwards go to Egypt?
A: Travelled.

Q: (L) The Atlanteans travelled to Sumeria?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did they set up outposts in Sumeria?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Then did the main Atlanteans move to Egypt when Atlantis was destroyed?
A: Yes. And elsewhere.

Q: (L) Where else did the Atlanteans go?
A: Americas. Inca. Aztec. Maya. Hopi Tribe. Pima tribe.

Q: (L) When the Jews were dispersed, did some of them come to America?
A: A few.

Q: (L) Who was the angel who communicated with the Prophet Daniel?
A: Us.

Q: (L) Who gave John Revelation?
A: The Lizzies.

Q: (L) Who did Paul encounter on the road to Damascus.
A: Spirit of the 6th density.

Q: (L) If the Revelations are from the “bad” guys, are they an accurate portrayal of the end times?
A: Close.

Q: (L) What was the source of the prophecies of Isaiah?
A: Fiction.

Q: (L) What was the source of the so-called Cassiopaeans when S____ was present? Was that you guys?
A: Mixed.

Q: (L) Does Jupiter have a solid core?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was Zecharia Sitchin correct in his naming of the planets?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was the interpretation I gave to it more correct.
A: Better but needs help.

Q: (L) True meaning of the word “Shem”?
A: Purity.

Q: (L) What language is the root of this word found in?
A: Atlantean. Hebrew.

Q: (L) Where did the Jews come from?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) Who was Yahweh.
A: Fictional being.

Q: (L) Who was the god that spoke to Moses on the mount?
A: Audible projection of Lizards.

Q: (L) Did Moses at any time realize that he had been duped by the Lizzies?
A: No.

Q: (L) Yet, the other night you said that Moses is also doing work with Christ on another plane, is that correct?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, if he was misled by the Lizzies, how did he get to be a good guy?
A: Taught afterward.

Q: (L) After what?
A: Plane transfer.

Q: (L) Did Moses die?
A: No.

Q: (L) Who took him?
A: Us.

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October 09, 1994

Freddie and Laura

Q: Hello.
A: Hello.

Q: Who do we have with us?
A: Baderea.

Q: (L) What do the Cassiopaeans look like?
A: Light form.

Q: (L) What do you mean by light form?
A: Humanoid light form.

Q: (L) Are you physical in atomic terms?
A: All according to the perceiver.

Q: (L) Do you mean you arrange yourselves according to what the perceiver wants?
A: No. It is according to perception capacity.

Q: (L) Can you appear to us?
A: No. Vibrational frequency envelope of your density prevents this.

Q: (L) Are you ever in any way physical?
A: Varying degrees according to realm.

Q: (L) Why are you communicating with us?
A: Because you called.

Q: (L) What are the differences between the Celts and the Aryans?
A: Geographic and cultural.

Q: (L) Are there any differences inherent from the former planetary home?
A: No. Post arrival difference development.

Q: (L) Were they the same prior to arrival?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was Mars ever inhabited?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) By whom?
A: By those you now know as Sasquatch or Bigfoot.

Q: (L) Do they now live on this planet as a result of being brought here by other beings?
A: They are transitory. Do not inhabit on a permanent basis.

Q: (L) Well, how do they come and go?
A: They are the slaves and “pets” of the Lizard Beings.

Q: (L) How did the Sasquatch get here from Mars?
A: Brought by Lizard Beings but they do not inhabit earth.

Q: (L) Why have Sasquatch been seen in remote places throughout history?
A: Put there for menial slave tasks.

Q: (L) Does that mean that whenever Sasquatch have been seen that there is a Lizard nearby?
A: No.

Q: (L) What menial tasks might they be doing?
A: Collecting samples.

Q: (L) Why has everyone who has ever come in contact with Sasquatch commented on the awful odor of them? Why do they stink?
A: Organic functions.

Q: (L) What is it about their organic functions that makes them stink?
A: Sweat.

Q: (L) Who killed Sir Harry Oakes?
A: David Crofts.

Q: (L) Who was St. Issa of India.
A: Lama Kirtanah.

Q: (L) Where was he from?
A: Palestine.

Q: (L) When was he in India?
A: 13 and 14 A.D.

Q: (L) Is Fred’s mind programmed?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) To do what?
A: To be an open channel.

Q: (L) By who?
A: Us.

Q: (L) You said one other time that he was also programmed by the Grays.
A: Yes.

Q: (L) To do what?
A: To destroy himself.

Q: (L) Is this why it is important for him to channel?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Why do they feed off emotions?
A: To fuel their energy.

Q: (L) Details about Jesus’ extended “sleep” state.
A: He spent 96 hours in a comatose state in a cave near Jerusalem. When he awoke, he prophesied to his disciples and then exited the cave. 27,000 people had assembled because of mother ship appearance and he was taken up in a beam of light.

Q: (L) Why did we have trouble with the tape recorder?
A: Influence of Lizard beings. In your head.

Q: (L) Why didn’t you guys tell me the tape was not recording?
A: Must experience to learn to practice precaution.

Q: (L) I am going to give a list of planets written about in the Sumerian texts which Dr. Sitchin has interpreted. I would like for you to give me the true translation of these names. What was meant by : Mummu: Comet cluster. Lahamu: Venus Lahmu: Earth The Hammered Bracelet: Comet trail of Venus and cluster. Anshar: Jupiter. Anu: Moon. EA: Sun. Gaga: Saturn. Marduk: Mars. Tiamat: Sirius.
Q: (L) You say that Christ gave into temptation, could you please clarify what that means to us?
A: Three women represented sexual temptation. He felt bad after each. He washed himself and asked for strength and forgiveness.

Q: (L) What did Christ write on the ground in the story about the adulteress who was about to be stoned?
A: Look into soul.

Q: (L) That is what he wrote?
A: Yes. Translation.

Q: (L) What, exactly, does the U.S. Government know about aliens?
A: That they exist.

Q: (L) Does the government have or did they ever have a treaty with any aliens?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the treaty still in effect?
A: Never was.

Q: (L) Did they try to get a treaty with them?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Did the aliens refuse?
A: No. Tricked.

Q: (L) How long before the U.S. government realized they had been tricked?
A: 19 years.

Q: (L) What year was this?
A: 1972.

Q: (L) Does the government have any alien technology?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this technology they were given?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is this mind control technology?
A: Close.

Q: (L) Does the government have the ability to say, walk through walls as the aliens do?
A: Incompetent.

Q: (L) Does the government listen to us on the telephone?
A: Can.

Q: (L) The individual in the Karla Turner book who had an experience similar to virtual reality, inside a blue bubble, who did this?
A: Grays.

Q: (L) Who were the grays working for when they did that?
A: Lizard Beings.

Q: (L) Is M F working for either the government or the aliens?
A: Aliens.

Q: (L) Which aliens is he working for?
A: Lizard beings. Unwittingly.

Q: (L) What influence was Adolf Hitler under when he undertook to do the things he did. Who was guiding him?
A: Lizards. Indirectly.

Q: (L) What connection did they use to influence him?
A: Projected beings of human type, inspired forms of great Aryan spirits.

Q: (L) Can you tell us more about the six billion people on the planet at the time of Noah’s flood. Where were most of these beings living?
A: Atlantis.

Q: (L) In the upcoming cataclysms, which continent is going to suffer the most destruction?
A: As yet undetermined.

Q: (L) Why are there more abductions by the grays in the United States than in other countries around the world?
A: Government opened channel.

Q: (L) Are there alien bases in the United States?
A: Yes. New Mexico, Colorado, Off Florida, Appalachia, California.

Q: (L) Are these underground bases?
A: Yes. Also under water.

Q: (L) What age was I the first time I was abducted?
A: Three.

Q: (L) Who abducted me?
A: Grays.

Q: (L) What was the purpose of that abduction?
A: Encoding.

Q: (L) To do what?”
A: Kill yourself.

Q: (L) Why did they want me to kill myself?
A: Threat to reveal truth.

Q: (L) When did they abduct me next?
A: Age three.

Q: (L) Why?
A: Same.

Q: (L) Did they ever at any time do anything to my physical body to cause me problems?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What did they do.
A: Implant.

Q: (L) What kind of implant and where?
A: Brain silicon.

Q: (L) Did they ever put one in the lower part of my spine?
A: No.

Q: (L) Was I ever abducted by you guys?
A: No. Contacted at age three. We do not abduct.

Q: (L) How did the grays know I would be a threat to them?
A: Image aural reading.

Q: (L) Is this the same reason they have abducted Freddie so many times?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) How many times have I been abducted?
A: 17 (This is five more than previously stated)

Q: (L) How many times have they abducted Freddie?
A: 53

Q: (L) Why have they abducted Freddie more than me?
A: You fight it.

Q: (L) When was the last time they abducted me?
A: Age 22

Q: (L) When was the last time Freddie?
A: Age 23

Q: (L) So they haven’t been abducting us for quite some time, is that it?
A: So far.

Q: (L) Do they have any plans to abduct either of us again?
A: Maybe.

Q: (L) Is there any way we can prevent it?
A: Knowledge channel.

Q: (L) Could you describe to me the true meaning of the Osirian cycle. What was the symbology of the killing of Osiris and the cutting up of the body?
A: Removal of knowledge centers.

Q: (L) Knowledge centers in what?
A: Your DNA.

Q: (L) So, the breaking up of Osiris’ body represents the breaking up of the DNA in our bodies?
A: Partly. Also means knowledge capacity reduction.

Q: (L) What was the symbology of the throwing of the phallus into the river and it’s being eaten by three fishes?
A: Sexual violence energy introduction.

Q: (L) What did Isis searching for her lord Osiris symbolize?
A: Separation of female energy from male energy union.

Q: (L) Does this have anything to do with brain activity?
A: Yes. The separating of the hemispheres of the brain.

Q: (L) Was this achieved through DNA modification?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) What did the son of Isis, Horus, represent?
A: New reality of limitation.

Q: (L) What is the meaning of Horus avenging himself upon Set, the murderer of his father, Osiris?
A: Beginning of perpetual conflict energy to limit humanity.

Q: (L) Who did Set represent?
A: War.

Q: (L) What war?
A: All.

Q: (L) You say that part of what was done to the human race was that our capacity to retain or absorb knowledge was reduced genetically, was there anything done to Fred or I either before or after birth in this regard?
A: In process of altering to make smarter. Ongoing since conception. Capacity for processing information will increase exponentially.

Q: (L) You mean we are going to get smarter than we already are?
A: Much. [Much laughter]

Q: (L) Who are the beings that have been abducting Karla Turner and her family?
A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Why have they been abducting that group of people?
A: Same reasons they have been abducting you and Fred.

Q: (L) They have been abducting Karla Turner and her family because they perceive them as a threat?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) In one abduction where her son was involved, what was the black shadowy thing that seemed like a moving “nothing” on the ground?
A: Blocked grays. Son not as in tune as Karla. Careful driving alone to lectures and meetings.

Q: (L) Should she make sure there is always someone with her in the car?
A: At night and on lonely roads. Nephew must pay attention. Also son’s friend.

Q: (L) Why did the Egyptians mummify their dead?
A: Superstition.

Q: (L) Was there really a curse on the tomb of King Tut that caused the deaths of many people?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Who put the curse there?
A: Egyptians. Anybody can create curse successfully with enough mental energy.

Q: (L) What happened to Tiffany Sessions?
A: Murdered.

Q: (L) By whom?
A: Bob August.

Q: (L) Where is the body.
A: Many sites. We are trying to contact Karla Turner’s son’s former roommate. But he is resisting. She does not realize the extreme importance. Communicate this to her now please Laura.

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