Julia: How did the concept of
Star Visitors become the focus of your
Leo: I had two lines of interest. The first came from my personal
experiences. I saw a flying saucer in 1949, and later, in 1965, I
saw an aerial phenomenon. These were the triggers.
My interest became galvanized when I decided to go into graduate
studies to become a psychologist and to focus on the idea of UFOs.
At this time, there were huge misunderstandings about the
There were two thoughts about people who talked about such things.
If you saw one space ship, you were crazy. If you repeated the
experience and saw another ship, then you were even crazier. I
thought if I were going to study this, I would be more credible as a
I use hypnotherapy with many people who have had experiences
relating to UFOs.
Julia: Can we talk about the similarities between people's
Leo: Some people have good experiences, and others don't. It may be
that the level of consciousness determines the experience.
For example, we may learn from both good and bad teachers, but the
individual consciousness may play a role in the actual experience.
If your consciousness is highly evolved, you may learn about Light.
Many people who have these experiences to do not talk about them for
fifteen or twenty years. After time passes, they may regain interest
in recovering their experience. They may watch movies, read books,
or search inwardly through meditation. I tend to think the Star
Visitors are engaged in some type of educational program for helping
us to evolve inwardly or spiritually.
Perhaps these people who have
been contacted are being exposed to some type of educational model
for the planet.
Julia: What are the changes for people who have these experiences?
Leo: They seem to have heightened psychic abilities. They may have
been selected because they had those abilities in the first place,
and then those abilities grew stronger after the contact was made. Contactees believe in reincarnation.
And after the Star Visitors leave, many people feel as though their
own family members have departed. The contact of consciousness is so
strong that they feel a sense of sadness at its loss.
Many have experiences that involve the workings of Light. They are
told about photons and light particles and are given instructions
for spiritualizing matter. This seems similar to me to
zero point ideas. If you focus on the Light or a positive outcome,
without negative emotion, the light particles actually coalesce into
a coherent wave. A wave of coherent light is so much stronger than
particles of light interspersed with particles of darkness.
I suppose that a high wave of love, divorced from passion that flows
up and down a scale, could energize the wave of Light.
I also think the information about Light is was similar to what
Gregg Braden is saying in
The Isaiah Effect, where he talks about
praying to God "with all thy heart, mind, and strength." Many people
who have had UFO experiences have been able to visualize weather
changes and have them occur very quickly. They can create rain
merely by visualizing the rain. I'm not speaking of praying for
rain, but rather of imagining what it feels like to be in the rain,
to have mud around your feet, to hear the plants growing.
These are some of the profoundly positive changes I've experienced
around those who have encountered UFOs. Of course, not everyone is
able to actualize them because of distortions in thinking or
perception that can stem from the physical body.
Julia: When you are speaking about Light, do you relate it to Love?
Leo: Certainly, I do. The beginning of all religion is about this
transforming or creating in the material world through spirituality.
We are all here to learn how to spiritualize matter. Every religion
begins with this idea of Love and Light. Love energizes the field of
Julia: Do you think that we fail to actualize this idea because of
Leo: We have to develop inwardly to be able to express this concept.
It's a hard process to dig through the psyche and change, but doing
this process allows us to have the opportunity to serve others. And
it's service that makes our lives worthwhile.
It's interesting that many times when people see UFOs, the
experience symbolizes something that is happening in their world.
One woman was driving to Cheyenne with her husband, and she looked
out of the passenger window and saw a flying glow with three lights
flying. Her husband didn't see this. When she reported the incident,
I asked her to think about its significance.
Later, she called and
"I know what it means. I'm getting divorced and taking our
The Star Visitors are on a different plane. I don't think it is
difficult for them to perceive our consciousness. They want to
educate us in our evolutionary process.
Julia: You said that a belief in reincarnation is common among
contactees. Can you tell me more about that?
Leo: The interest in delving into the inner self and reading books
about UFOs is often a sign that someone has had an encounter. Most
people who have had an encounter do believe in reincarnation.
One of the most interesting examples of this change in beliefs was a
young man found himself doing a lot of reading and studying, but
didn't know why. I told him that it was likely he had encountered
UFOs and didn't recall it. I offered to hypnotize him, and he
I asked him to go to the time when his interests began, and he
remembered a Native American lifetime. He saw a star vehicle above
the sagebrush and went inside the ship. He was told by the Star
People that he wouldn't remember this until he was in another
lifetime as a white man.
As he was relating this experience, he said,
"Who would want to be a
He wasn't thrilled that he was a white man in this life.
Julia: Why does such a length of time pass between the encounter and
remembering it or changing from it?
Leo: Many people immediately begin to develop a rich inner life
through spirituality, but they don't remember the experience until
they have developed enough to "translate" it. Also, I think that
these Beings make a long term communication with the people they
contact. It isn't a one-time encounter. If you meditate and keep a
journal, it is possible to receive information from them throughout
So these inward changes continue to take place through an
individual's entire life. There is no question that the evolution
continues through a long, not a short, time period.
Julia: Do you believe that people who have had these experiences are
more evolved or different from the general public?
Leo: They are not different, in that we all have these latent
abilities and it is possible for any of us to develop them. But they
are perhaps more evolved in their consciousness. I think that if you
decide to look inwardly and evolve, then your level of consciousness
is naturally higher.
There was a report by Paul Ray and
Sherry Ruth Anderson about the
consciousness of Americans. They defined three groups. The first
was the Traditionalists. They live in rural America and are involved
in traditional religion. The second group was called Moderns. These
are competitive, urban, materialistic, and scientifically oriented.
The third group was named the "Cultural Creatives." These people are
more spiritual, as opposed to religious. They are less competitive
and are deeply interested in the environment.
It is thought that this third, Cultural Creative group is likely to
gain power as time goes on, both socially and economically, because
of their desire to help the planet.
I think it's likely that the contactees belong to the third group.
Julia: Are either men or women more likely to have an experience
related to Star Visitors?
Leo: Approximately two-thirds of the participants in my workshops
involving UFOs and hypnotherapy are women, but I have no data on the
subject. I think women are more likely to be willing to deal with it
or talk about it because women are more used to suffering in our
world than men are and they also handle fear much better. I also
think that more women may be contactees because the masculine energy
is waning and the feminine energy is coming in.
I think this is a time when a balance will be achieved between male
and female energies or sexes. This is another evolutionary change on
Julia: What are the characteristics of contactees?
Leo: Over seventeen years, I tested 225 persons reporting mixed UFO
experiences ranging from a light in the sky to being contacted. A
study of the profiles of these witnesses showed certain unique
characteristics. Witnesses exhibited a high level of psychic energy,
self-sufficiency, and resourcefulness, along with a tendency to
question authority and situational pressure. They also possessed
above average intelligence and assertiveness, and a tendency to be
I can tell you, though, that the factors of race whether you are
black or white or purple, rich or poor, male or female don't play
into these demographics.
The two things that are associated with contact experiences are
increased precognition or psychic phenomena, and the fact that those contactees who stick with it those who develop themselves become
Those are the two constants of the entire
Julia: How does one who has had this experience develop it and
"stick with it"?
Leo: You begin by writing it down in a journal and possibly talking
to someone who is open about it. You meditate on it, and you try to
meditate on the Beings that you encountered. You would be very
surprised at the rapid changes and synchronicities that can take
place by doing this inner work.
A woman who had had an experience or encounter but didn't know what
to do, or who to talk to, went to the public library. Immediately, a
book fell off the shelf and opened to a page that said "Leo
Sprinkle," with my address and phone number!
She called me, and we
You would be absolutely amazed at the rapidity of
that will occur for those who pursue contact experiences. This all
has to be coming from a higher order, a higher awareness. Many
people are ashamed or reluctant to talk about their experience, but
it is important to talk about it.
They say that any new science goes through three phases: being
ignored, being ridiculed, and being accepted. I'm being ridiculed
now, and I'm pleased, because it means that we are close to
accepting extraterrestrial contact as a new science. People need to
move away from fear of ridicule, though, and talk to someone who can
understand and help them make sense of it all.
Also, I think that as contactees continue to evolve, their
consciousness has profound effects on other people. They may not see
themselves in this light they may see themselves as mothers or
painters or teachers, or whatever but they do affect the people
around them because they are living at a higher spiritual level.
People of higher consciousness can profoundly influence those in
their individual worlds.
Julia: Who do you think the
Star People are? Do you think they come
from different galaxies or universes? Do you relate them to angels?
Leo: They may be the forbears of this planet, or they may be
visitors from many planets or universes. I don't think it matters. I
have friends all over the world, and I don't really care where they
live. They are still part of my spiritual family, and there is a
connection with them.
As far as gods or angels, it may be that we have mistaken the
message for the messenger, or the messenger for the message. It
could well be that evolved beings have been bringing us these
messages that are the basis for all religion. When you think about
it, anyone who looks inwardly goes to the guidebooks that are
connected with religion, whether it is the Bible, the Vedas, works
on meditation, or whatever. It may be that the ETs guide us to the
guidebooks they have written for us.
I do think, though, that at whatever our level, the Star People are
making an effort to aid in our evolution. It may be that if we are
concerned with fear and doubt, we have a frightening experience. On
a slightly higher level, we may encounter or become interested in
Finally, if we are evolved enough, we may meet an
angel or a Being of Light who explains Light and Creation to us.
Julia: What impact would it have on our civilization if everyone
became aware of ETs and UFOs in such a way that it had to be
Leo: There are many different ways of looking at that.
Let's start with the perspective that it might make very little
Two possibilities are that people would blank it out or they would
evolve. The evolving group would probably think about it and end up
changing society in a way that was more sensitive and evolved.
At this point, the Star People have graciously and gracefully
appeared at a low level to allow us to gradually adjust to their
presence. They have allowed us the free will to accept, reject, or
be doubtful about them, and to have fluctuations in our perception
There is definitely a cover-up about UFOs on all levels: individual,
community, military and on the ET level itself. While it is
possible that the cover-ups all exist as a mirroring of the
individual level, it would be interesting to have all of the
Another scenario is that people would be greatly affected by their
presence, and they would evolve spiritually in the way we discussed
earlier. Certainly, this would be beneficial for the planet. One of
the huge long-term effects on civilization would come out of the
fact that evolved do not perceive war and violence as positive.
In the end, I am convinced that we are moving from being planetary
to cosmic citizens.
There is no question that UFOs and ETs have come as a part of a huge
educational program. They are moving the sphere of this planet to a
Perhaps we are the particles that are becoming the wave. When we
accomplish this, we may join the field and become part of the cosmic
field or confederation.