Martin: Iím going to go back, now. How did the
Protocols Of The
Learned Elders Of Zion, authored, according to you, by the Jesuits,
further the Jesuit Agenda?
Phelps: Ok. To answer that, we probably ought to look at the
different Protocols. Now, to my mind, I believe thereís 20 or 30
Protocols; I canít quite remember. But the Protocols further the
agenda of the Jesuit Order in that Russia would be taken and, in the
fall of Russia, in the Bolshevik Revolution, two major things would
happen: The Romanoff dynasty would be removed.
Now, of course, the
Czar was not killed at Ekaterinburg; we know that from the book
File On The Czar. We know that his daughter died in the state of
Virginia [not very long ago]. We know his son, Alexi, became a
member of the KGB, later came to New York, and he put out what was
called The White Paper. The Royal Family was not killed, because
Knights of Malta.
So, the Knights of Malta took the Royal Family out, faked their
death, and then after they had taken the Romanoffs out, the Orthodox
Church no longer had a protector, because Church and State are one
Now the Jesuits were free, with their Bolsheviks, to kill-off the
Orthodox leadership that was anti-Rome. Thatís why they killed 5,000
priests and nuns, during the revolution, of the Orthodox Church.
They just beheaded all the anti-Catholic, anti-Pope leadership of
the Orthodox Church.
They got rid of the Romanoffs, and then the next thing they did,
they began to purge Russia of its Protestants, in general. They
purged it of its Lutherans; they burned down the Lutheran Church;
imprisoned the Baptists; sent them off to Siberia. They even
destroyed two Jewish communities during the í20s, which weíre not
The Jews fared well for 10 years, until the purges of
Stalin in the
í30s. But the Jesuits accomplished the killing-off, the getting rid
of the Romanoff dynasty and their protectorate of the Orthodox
Church, the beheading of the Orothodox Church, so they could bring
Orthodox Moscow back to Rome. And remember, Moscow is considered the
ďThird RomeĒ. The first is Rome; the second is Constantinople; the
third is Moscow. And you can find this, you can find the Jesuit
alliance with the Bolsheviks in a book called Descent Into Darkness
by a priest named Zatko, who taught at Notre Dame University in the
And so the Jesuits were given formal re-entry into Russia in 1922,
after the Bolshevik Revolution and Civil War, and from then on - the
Russian College was erected in Rome in 1929, so they could prepare
Russian Jesuits to rule Russia. And thatís what theyíve done, and
theyíve ruled through the KGB, just like they rule this country
through the CIA and the FBI.
The Protocols outline this. Remember,
the Protocols were discovered
in Russia, and translated by an Englishman, Marsden. But what it
also did - because then they set-up the huge gulag system, the huge
concentration camp system, that gave the Jesuits practice to do this
But their great accomplishment was, in the process of pulling all of
this off, they blamed it on the Jews, and in so doing, justified in
the eyes of the European people the annihilation of the Jewish race
in Europe - because itís the Jews who did this in Russia! The Jews
killed all the Christians in Russia! The Jews sent them off to
Siberia! After all, wasnít Trotsky a Jew? Wasnít Lenin a Jew? Itís
all the Jews! So, they fell for the bait.
So they blamed it all on the Jews, purged Europe of its Jews, so
Europe is primarily Roman Catholic now. Itís a Roman Catholic block,
and it will be the army of the Anti-Christ, with its European Union.
The Jews, then, were forced out of the nations to Israel. And
remember, during World War II, when the Jews tried to escape and
they were desperate to get out of Germany, do you think
Jew-controlled Russia would let the Jews in? If the Jews really
controlled Russia, they could have gone right into Russia. They were
not allowed. Stalin would not allow any Jews to go into Russia.
Churchill would not allow any Jews to go into England. And that
criminal, FDR, would not allow any Jews to come into America. They
were not allowed to escape.
They were either to be killed or funneled down through Israel, to be
killed by the Mufti, that was working with the SS, Eichmann. Loftus
is right. There is a secret war against the Jews, and all of the
intelligence communities are waging it.
And the Jews donít perceive it because their Rabbis, the majority of
their Rabbis, are traitors. I talked to a Rabbi in Lancaster County
and I told him to look out for the Jesuit Order. He says ďOh,
theyíre some of my best friends!Ē Well, that explains it. The Rabbis
betray their own people at the hand of these inquisitors. And thatís
what they did in World War II, and theyíre going to do it here.
Martin: Letís talk about
Garfield and McKinley. Why were they
Phelps: I think Garfield was assassinated on a monetary issue; he
was resisting the banking plans of the Jesuits. He was a radical,
red Republican, too, you know, so they got rid of their own. Iím not
familiar with all of the details. All I know is Burke McCarty in the
book The Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of Lincoln named
McKinley and Garfield as other victims of the Jesuit Order. And had
the Lincoln assassination been solved, that would never have
happened. The other important issue is that Garfield was a
Freemason. So, they assassinate their own Freemasons, when they want
Martin: Going back to Lincoln, who was
Phelps: John Surratt was the young man, 20 years old, who called
time outside of Fordís Theater. He was mastermind of the
assassination. John Surratt was helped by the priests of Washington
to escape Washington, went up into Canada, was taken care of and
housed by the priests, by the Bishop of Montreal, and then he was
ferried across the ocean in The Peruvian, in a steamer called The
Peruvian, and he went to, I believe, Ireland, then into England,
then he went to Rome, to the Popeís Vatican there. He joined the
Zouave army, and he was stationed in Alexandria, Egypt, until he was
found and arrested.
In 1867, he was brought back and stood trial in Washington. There a
woman was involved in the picking of the jury, and a High Roman
Catholic was put on it. And because itís no murder to kill a
heretic, the jury was hung in the first trial and Surratt went free.
And he was also free in the second trial, because there were TWO
trials. He died in 1914, I believe, at the age of 72, and they gave
him, of course, a very, very, pompous funeral, a High Requiem Mass
that are usually only given for priests and nuns. Evidently, he
Of course, John Wilkes Booth, he was never killed.
killed Booth in the barn. Booth escaped Washington with a password,
according to Finis Batesí work The Escape And Suicide Of John Wilkes
Booth. He escaped to Kansas, and on his death bed confessed to his
physician that he was John Wilkes Booth who shot Lincoln. And he
escaped with the help of a Masonic password. So just like there was
a patsy for the Lincoln assassination, there was a patsy for the
Martin: Why is April 15th so significant?
Phelps: (laughter) Well, April 15 was the day that Lincoln called
out troops on the South. It was the day that Lincoln died. He was
shot on the 14th and died on the 15th. Itís the day that the Titanic
was sunk. And itís the day all the 14th Amendment citizens of this
empire, like the good serfs that they are, go to confession once a
year and confess to the government with their tax returns. Beware
the Ides of April. (laughter)
Martin: Letís talk about the Cold War. Why did that come about?
Phelps: We had the end of World War II. We had the purging of the
Jews and the Protestants, for the most part. The British Empire was
destroyed, itís wrecked, which was essentially the empire that the
Gospel went to China with. Modern missions were founded on the
So, that Protestant Empire, even though it was controlled by Rome,
was done. We have America in huge financial debt, out of
isolationism. We have a Russia thatís taken over by the Jesuits,
through Joseph Stalin. Of course, the great beneficiary of World War
II was Russia - Russia was the only country that won. But the Jesuits
are not finished with their purgings and their installings of
dictators loyal to the Pope, around the world. I mean, they pretty
much have South America. They pretty much have Africa. But they
donít have the East, and the Orthodox nations, and the Buddhist
So, the purpose of the Cold War was to kill millions of these
heretic, orthodox Buddhists, and to install in their country
dictators that will carry out the Inquisition, who are loyal to the
One of those dictators was Joseph Stalin. And he was given the
nuclear device in 1943 by the U.S. government, by the U.S. army. And
you can find that in The Unseen Hand by Ralph Epperson. He did a lot
of good documentation.
So, they gave him the bomb. I shouldnít call it ďthe bombĒ because
they gave him the nuclear device so that he could detonate it and
create the ILLUSION that Russia now has nuclear capability, when a
wheel-barrow was a great invention in Russia.
I mean, the Russian soldiers, when they went into Germany and they
found toilets, they were dipping their bread in the toilets and
eating their bread out of toilets. In Russia they were just savages.
They didnít have technology; they had nothing. All the technology
they ever got was given by Vatican-controlled Western corporations,
whose inventors were Protestants.
So, the Cold War has to continue under Stalin. And we have to divide
up the world into two factions, so weíre going to put Roman Catholic
NATO on one side, and weíre going to put Communist-controlled
Pact on the other.
But in the process of so doing, they put Protestant East Germany
under Communism to purge the Protestants of East Germany out of the
country. Thatís why they sent them to Siberia. They put
Protestant-Lutheran Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia under Communism,
so they deported them all to Siberia. They put the Mennonites of
Russia further under Communism, deporting them to Siberia. They
deported the Baptists of Russia to Siberia, because they could only
do - wimpy, gimpy, powerless, Russian army that it was - we could easily
have beat it into the ground, if it had not been financed and
supported and built by Henry Ford and Western corporations.
So, wimpy, gimpy Russia has this nuclear device, right? And oh, if
we decide to go to war with Russia, well, we might get bombed!
Thereís mutual, assured destruction. So to keep that from happening,
we wonít fight íem, and weíll let them purge the world of all its
Protestants. Thatís the purpose of the Cold War.
The Cold War then went into China, and the U.S. 7th Fleet, according
to the Birch Society, and theyíre right about this, blocked
Kai-Shek from being able to go into China and take over the country.
So, Mao Se-Dung could get in control, get in power, and then carry
out his inquisition against the land owners, against the Buddhists,
against all the Protestant missionaries who were in China - just like
the good Jesuit pawn that he was.
And, of course, the intimidation idea was that you canít go to
China - why, thereís millions of people there! Meanwhile, the Japanese
whipped the Chinese to death in their war with China, when the
Japanese went in. The Chinese had no technology. They had no
organized army. They were easy to beat.
But the idea we were sold was: Oh no
- China is a great, powerful
nation, and now they even have the bomb! Stalin gave them a bomb, so
we canít fight them anymore. So we wonít do anything to them, while
theyíre murdering 50 million people. And remember the ďbaby-boomersĒ
of the United States, we would have fought the world. We would have
rid the world of tyranny, had we had leadership that would have led
us to that. But we had this farce, called the nuclear, mutual
assured destruction. We had this farce called the dropping of the
bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Whatever it was, it wasnít dropping
nuclear bombs - and Edwin Corley does a pretty good job in his The
Jesus Factor, in trying to tell you what else it was.
And so, we have this nonsense Cold War, which enables Rome to put up
all their dictators, their Communist dictators, all of them loyal to
the Pope - including Ho Chi Minh. Ho Chi Minh had a secret deal with
Pope John XXIII, and he was under the advice of a Roman Catholic
Bishop all throughout the war.
The purpose of the Cold War was to carry out the Council of Trent,
and to tie the hands of the American Protestants; and it was also
used to unite the Protestants and Catholics of America against
Communism. Protestants and Catholics should unite on nothing. We are
DIFFERENT. The Catholics have a final authority - thatís the Pope. The
Baptists and Protestants should have a final authority - thatís the
Bible. We donít unite on anything. We donít agree on anything. We
donít agree on Americaís national purpose, so we donít unite. Weíre
not uniting with abortion; weíre not uniting with Communism; we
donít unite against the Black or the Civil Rights Movement.
You see, all these things were used to unite Catholics and
Protestants together here, so that, ultimately, Rome would be in
control of all the Protestant denominations through the National
Council of Churches and the Royal Council of Churches. And thatís
what they got. They took Princeton; they took Dartmouth College.
the great Protestant Universities are now in the hands of the Masons
and the Jesuits. Harvard has a Jesuit House. Theyíre controlled. And
so, wherever they control education, they control the politics. And
they control the education in China, Russia, all the Communist
Now that they have all of the dictators installed all
throughout the world, they donít need the Cold War anymore. So now
they can proceed with their next agenda, and thatís the unification
of Europe, the building up of Russia, and the destruction of the
Western Empire. And thatís their next agenda.
Martin: How do you see that unfolding?
Phelps: Whatís that?
Martin: The destruction of the Western Empire.
Phelps: As far as the actions of overthrowing the government and
having a tyranny, is that what you mean?
Martin: Right. What do you see life like here in the next 5 or 10
Phelps: Itís hard to put a date on it; itís hard to put a year on
it. But I would say itís going to continually become more and more a
matter of ďcentral powerĒ in Washington. Youíre going to have less
and less power in the Congress. And one of these days, the Congress
is going to be closed. And all weíre going to have is a
Commander-in-Chief. Weíre going to have some form of absolutism,
with the President becoming now a dictator.
Martin: Do you think George Bush, Jr. will be that person?
Phelps: He could be. I wonít say he will be, but he could be. It
will be someone like him - with complete allegiance to Rome, just like
his father. His grandfather helped set up the
CFR. His uncle is a
Knight of Malta. It will be someone like him.
And he WILL be the next President. Theyíve already chosen him in the
College of Cardinals. Everything else is a show. Jesuit-trained
Buchanan is a show. Roman Catholic McCain is a show. The
Catholic Keyes is a show, although he tickles me. He advocates
abolition of the 14th Amendment. If that happens, what are the Black
people going to do? Theyíre not citizens; they have no rights! Dred
Scott comes into play. Heís a fake.
So, what I see is more and more centralization of power in the hands
of the President. The Supreme Court is just a rubber stamp. He
becomes the king. The courts are nothing more than the courts of the
kingís bench. The
Federal Reserve Bank will remain in power.
Everything will be monitored and controlled by Washington, unless
some of Godís men start trusting God and get in control of the state
and cause it to secede. The only answer to this is state secession,
leaving this Union - itís not a Union, itís an Empire - leaving the
Empire that began in 1868, assuming national sovereignty, once
And the first state that would do this, Iím moving there.
Because I donít want to see the FBI anymore. I donít want to see the
CIA. I donít want to see any of these national bureaucracies
Martin: Montana seems close. Arizona seems close.
Phelps: Well, when they do it, Iíll move there. But thatís what
would happen if things continue as they are. Weíll have race war.
Weíre going to have the Moslems fighting the Klu Klux Klan.
siding with the Whites; the Blacks siding with the Blacks. Itís
going to be a blood-bath everywhere. And that will justify Martial
Law, and the military, and the whole nine yards, and also foreign
occupation; weíre going to have that too. And you know how
foreigners are in a foreign country. They rape the women. They
couldnít care less about the social strata of the country. They have
no mercy on the people. They have a foreign tongue. And thatís what
theyíll do. And thatís all the more reason for a state to secede.
Iíve advocated that Pennsylvania should secede for the last 15
years. We have our own deep-water ports; we have our own
agriculture; we have our own heavy industry; we have coal; we have
everything we need to be a sovereign nation. We donít need this
Empire anymore. The only problem is, Pennsylvania is COMPLETELY
controlled by the Jesuits.
Every major city is under their control. And so, the place is slated
for destruction - all the Mennonite and Amish counties of Southeastern
Pennsylvania. Everything else is Catholic: Pittsburgh, Scranton,
Philadelphia, Harrisburg - all Roman Catholic. The Roman Catholic
people, too, will also be sacrificed. They will be killed too. Let
them not think that theyíre going to be delivered because the
Jesuits run the show.
According to the Jesuit Molina, in the tape I
just sent you, it is lawful to kill - and they will kill as many Roman
Catholics as necessary to bring this plan to fruition.
Martin: Define the Jesuit term:
Phelps: Define it? That means worldwide, universal, over every
nation, absolute power. Absolutism is their great doctrine, that
absolute power resides in the hands of the General. He is limited by
no constitution. He is limited by no law.
This is the Great Doctrine of Divine Right, the
Divine Right of
Kings that was so fought against by the Calvinists. We
Bible-believing Calvinists believe in the Rule of Law. The Law is
king. Rutherfordís ďLex RexĒ. The Jesuits believe the king is the
law - Louis XIV: ďI am the lawĒ. So, itís going to be a universal,
world-wide king who, himself, is the law. All authority will be in
him, as he rules the world from Jerusalem, as the Beast.
Martin: Are we talking about the present
Pope, or are we talking
about Count von Kolvenbach?
Phelps: Iím saying that whatís in position now will ultimately bring
in the future Pope, whoever he is, and whatever it may be, as a
Universal Absolutist - the Universal Monarch of the World, in
Martin: Symbolic? Or youíre saying literal?
Phelps: Iím saying that will literally happen. There will be a Pope,
who will be killed; he will receive a mortal wound. And this is
going to happen in the 70th week of Daniel. He will receive a mortal
wound, according to Revelation 13.
This is the Beast, and he will come back to life. He comes back to
life, mid-trip, at the very time that Satan and his angels are cast
out of Heaven by Michael and his angels. At this time, Satan goes
and he indwells the Beast, this Pope. Now he comes back to life,
just like Christ. He was dead; now heís resurrected.
And what is he going to do? Heís going to destroy the Catholic
Church. Heís going to destroy the Vatican; and heís going to go down
in Jerusalem and demand to be worshipped as God, for three and a
Thatís why the Vatican is indestructible. No one can destroy the
Vatican. All the armies in the world couldnít destroy it. It has
been determined that it will be destroyed by
the Anti-Christ. And
he, alone, can do it.
Thatís why, when the Yugoslavians wanted to mount an air attack
against the Vatican in World War II, a bunch of clouds came over the
airport and they couldnít take off, because they were going to bomb
the Vatican. The world will not allow that to happen. The Vatican
will only be destroyed by the man of sin, the Beast, the coming
Universal Monarch, the ex-Universal Pope.
The Vatican has the most extensive library in the world, the most
priceless and extensive library. It goes for miles, underground, in
Martin: Wouldnít you love to go in there.
Phelps: I would love to. Talk about finding sunken treasure.
Martin: Weíve almost covered it. I almost donít want to dilute this
conversation with the FDA and AMA. Letís talk about them just
Phelps: Ok. World War II, produced of course by Rome, caused the
Nazi experiments on the people in the concentration camps - the Jews,
the Gypsies, the Socialists, primarily the Jews. But they
experimented with things like fluoride. They experimented with
things like EDTA chelation, which is THE treatment of choice for
anybody with heart disease. They experimented with poisons. They
experimented with surgeries. They experimented with all kinds of
things on these people. They also experimented with vaccinations and
Thereís a book called The Nazi Doctors. Everything that was learned
by them was integrated into the American Medical Association, after
the war. Thatís why we all have our municipal water supplies
fluoridated. Thatís why theyíre all chlorinated, because chlorine
decreases oxygen, and therefore causes cancer, because cancer grows
in an anaerobic state - itís a virus, converting cells into mutants
that are anaerobic.
Ok. All of Europe is using ozone to clean their water supplies. Here
they use chlorine. They want us with cancer. And how do we get
cancer? With the vaccinations and immunizations, where they inject
us with live viruses, like the hepatitis vaccine - every one of them
has the HIV virus, SV-40.
What theyíre doing is what they learned in Nazi Germany. They
implemented here and they continue their research in the CIA.
Thereís a two-tape set called The CIA And The Virus Makers which
show how the CIA helped to create the HIV virus and various other
viruses. They get into Robert Gallo, the worldís foremost
Robert Gallo is a Jesuit. Heís a Roman Catholic, Italian, the
worldís foremost virologist - and yet not controlled by the
Brotherhood, by the Company? Ridiculous. Heís under their control!
Heís doing all the research, and he doesnít want to be blamed for
it - as the WONDERFUL Jew, Len Horowitz, proved. Again, weíve got Jews
getting in the way - Jews blowing their cover.
Martin: Iíve interviewed Len many times. Heís a very courageous guy.
Phelps: Great guy. And heís right on target. And he hits the
of Malta in his book Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola. He was a great
encouragement to me when I saw him do that, when I read his book.
So, hey, letís just take it the whole way. Letís just go right to
the Jesuit Order. And what the Jesuits did with the Cold War, with
their Inquisition in the East, they carry out with their war on the
American people in the West, with their Medical Inquisition - cut,
burn, and drug. And thatís what it is.
Personally, I have my own home where I use ozone oxygen. I use
ultraviolet blood irradiation. I can show you how ultraviolet blood
irradiation incapacitates Lupus. It destroys Hepatitis. It destroys
Meningitis. It destroys HIV.
This is a very simple procedure; I do it every day. It can easily be
done by any medical doctor, and they wonít do it. Because, when you
kill off the virus, you donít have the diseases. You are thwarting
what they wanted to do with their vaccinations and immunizations.
Thatís why they want to make a law. Thatís why that filthy
Kennedy, that Knight of Columbus, wants all these vaccinations and
immunizations - when it should be a religious tenet of everyone: ďItís
against my religious convictions to put foreign pathogens into my
bloodstream. Itís going to make me sick by the time Iím 40. Itís
going to give me plaque build-up and heart-disease. Iím not going to
In the meantime, theyíre suppressing all the things that reverse it:
soft lasers, hyperbaric chambers, ultraviolet blood irradiation,
oxygen ozone, north-pole magnetic therapy. All the things working
together that would easily reverse it, they suppress, and consider
it a crime. Make sense?
Martin: Rife technology.
Phelps: When I was in the office of my friend, William, in Maryland,
he told me that he had a guy from NSA [National Security Agency]
come in and talk to him about his blood irradiation, and told him:
ďI think that it would be wise for you to stop this.Ē
Now, this guy who runs the clinic there in Maryland is an ex-Navy
Seal. Heís no pushover. So he says to the NSA guy: ďWell, why do you
And the NSA guy said: ďYou know how
Royal Rife died? We put poison
on his tooth-brush.Ē
This guy was from NSA. So, that was a threat. Well, now, some people
get scared, and some people get upset, angry. William is one of
those guy who gets upset and angry, and it furthers him that much
So, mysteriously, the head of the Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation
Foundation died, about 3 or 4 months ago, in his apartment, with no
autopsy. So they almost destroyed the foundation, but now he is in
the process of securing capital - and he will, Iím sure, very
shortly, and itís going to be untouchable. The machines will be put
out and it will have UVC and UVA to do the blood, and weíre going to
kill-off all the viruses in the bloodstream. And weíre going to
teach the medical doctors how to do it. Weíll provide the machines
for them. And weíre going to end this tyranny. And weíll also
educate them - no more vaccinations and immunizations.
There are only two things Iím a member of in this country: one is
the national anti-vaccine society, and the other is Gun Ownerís of
America. Those are the only two organizations that are really worth
supporting. If you get the vaccinations away from the people,
theyíre not going to be sick. And if you maintain guns in the hands
of the people, they can still use them against the tyrants. And if
they go to church and read the Bible, theyíll have all the spiritual
zest and zeal to do it.
Martin: We havenít even talked about
Nikola Tesla in this
Phelps: Yeah. He was deliberately thwarted by the
FBI, all his
papers stolen in 1943. J.P. Morgan destroyed him. J.P. Morgan was
one of the kingpins in the Titanic sinking.
Nikola Tesla was a wonderful man. He came here for freedom. He was a
Serbian Orthodox - a curse to Rome. The father of A.C. current. He developed a whole system of Universal Power, that
we would need no coal or any of that. So, one of my other goals is
to perfect the electromagnetic motor.
When my book gets out, then I
will be working with some men in perfecting electromagnetic motors,
and they will be out, without a patent, privately.
Martin: Weíre just about there. Letís talk about
Bill Clinton. How
do you see Bill Clinton in relationship to the Jesuits? And how do
you see Al Gore? What can our readers glean from what youíre saying
about their power base?
Phelps: Well, we must remember: where did
Bill Clinton come from?
How did he become Governor? His father was a powerful political
figure, because his mother was nothing. So, he came from nothing to
being something, through some powerful political figure, probably
Itís rumored that John Kennedy was his father; could be. In any
event, Clinton was trained by the Jesuits of Georgetown. He was the
class president of his junior year, I believe. His senior year, he
was not re-elected because the student body said he was ďtoo close
to the Jesuit facultyĒ.
So, he was groomed by the Jesuits to be a powerful political leader.
He was put in place in Arkansas, runs that scam there, while heís
Governor, in the drug trade, belonging to Rome, working with Reagan
in the drug trade, and Bush. Then heís made President.
Remember the picture of him at Georgetown, kneeling at the grave of
Timothy Healy? That says it all. He is the complete and total pawn
of the Jesuit Order ruling from Georgetown University. He does
anything they want him to do. He hasnít resisted a thing.
Thatís why heís untouchable. He can commit any crime. He can do any
act of evil, and never be prosecuted, because theyíll call on
traitors like Arlen Spector to vindicate him. And, of course, Arlen
Spector was Spellyís Jew in the Kennedy assassination - evil, wicked,
lifetime Senator from Pennsylvania, which shows me that there are no
elections anymore. Nobody voted for Arlen Spector who I know. Heís a
gun-grabber. So, they made him a life-time Senator. They made Teddy
Kennedy a lifetime Senator.
Bill Clinton is completely at their beck and call. He will get out
of office. He will live happily ever after, unless he starts
talking. If he starts talking, heís done. He is NOT a Baptist. He is
loyal to the Jesuit Order.
Martin: Ok, letís talk about God and His Agenda.
Phelps: As I understand the Bible, I believe we are in whatís called
the Dispensation of Grace. Iím a dispensationalist. Now, there are
those who say that dispensationalism was a brain-child of the
Jesuits. Could be, could be Jesuits were involved with that. But I
believe the Bible teaches this, because God deals with men in
different ways, at different times.
He commands Abraham to sacrifice a lamb, but not me. We donít do
that now. He commands Noah to build an ark. We donít do that now. He
commands Moses to receive the Law of Sinai. Weíre not under the Law;
itís for the Nation of Israel. He commanded his son to announce that
the Davidic kingdom was ready to be established on Earth - repent, for
the Kingdom is at hand. The Kingdom, promised to David, is about to
be established, and thatís why they called him Son of David.
And now we live in the Dispensation of Grace, called the present
Evil Age, of Galations, Chapter 1:4, and the Dispensation of Grace
of Ephesians, Chapter 3. During this particular period of time, this
stewardship, the Gospel says that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the
sins of our world; he was buried and rose again.
And God commands all men, everywhere, to repent and believe on His
name that they might be saved. But there is no other name under
Heaven whereby we must be saved, save the name of Jesus. During this
time, this good news of forgiveness of sin and free pardon, and we
can be with the Lord for eternity, is going to every nation, Jews
and Gentile. And during this Dispensation of Grace, Jews and
Gentiles are regarded as one, in the body of Christ, when theyíre
Now, according to Romans, Chapter 11, there is what is called the
ďfullness of the GentilesĒ. There is a fullness that is a
predetermined amount of people who are going to be saved. We call
them ďthe electĒ. We call ourselves the elect of the Lord.
Now when that elect, that predetermined number, is saved, then God
will begin to deal with the nations and Israel, once again. And that
will begin, according to Daniel, Chapter 9, when the Prince shall
come, shall confirm a covenant with many for one week. That is the
70th week of Daniel. The first 69 weeks have been fulfilled, from
the decree, to rebuilding Jerusalem, to Messiah the Prince, the day
Christ declared himself the Messiah of Israel, was 69 weeks of
years. After that the Messiah would be cut-off, and Jerusalem would
That is the gap between the 69th and the 70th week.
The temple is not destroyed; the city is not destroyed; the Messiah
is not cut-off, during the 69th or the 70th week. Thereís a gap
between those two weeks, and that gap has gone to nearly 2,000
years. In the year 2032, it will be 2,000 years. Because Christ was
crucified in 32 A.D.
Ok, during this dispensation, God is saving Jews and Gentiles out of
all nations and placing them in the body of Christ, by the power of
His Holy Spirit, as the Gospels preached. When the predetermined
number comes to fruition, then the Lord will take out his
Bible-believing church, and everybody else is left to go through
what is called ďthe time of Jacobís troubleĒ, in the Book of
Jeremiah, or the Great Day of the Lord - the 7-year tribulation,
talked about in the Book of Revelation, Chapter 4-19.
That 7-year tribulation will be when the Lord begins to judge this
world for its rejection of the Messiah, and for their sins, having
not been taken care of, not having been saved; although there will
be many people saved during this time.
The Jews will be tremendously persecuted. The vast majority of them
will be murdered, and there will be a remnant who will repent at the
end of the Tribulation, at which time the Messiah will come and they
will look upon him, whom they pierced, and weep because they will
realize that the one who is going to save them from all these
Gentile armies pouring into Israel, is the very one they crucified.
When the Lord Jesus destroys all the Gentile armies, he will then
set up the Davidic Kingdom that he came to set up - the born-again
nation of Israel.
Can a nation be born in a day? Isaiah, Chapter 66
- they will be
born-again, they will inherit all the promises, and Christ will sit
down in the Kingdom with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, just like he
talked about, and he will eat the fruit of vine again. Because he
said: ďI will not eat this henceforth, til ye say, ĎBlessed is he
that come in the name of the Lordí until I eat it anew with you in
the Kingdom.Ē Then he will drink wine; he will eat the fruit of the
vine; he will break bread; and he will be Messiah, King of the World
at that time, ruling the world from Jerusalem.
So, what we have coming is more unbelief, more persecution, less
faith, less manhood, less guts, and we have more persecution from
the Jesuit Order, more monetary control. We have another scenario of
the World Government, under the Pope from Jerusalem, and thatís what
the Jesuits want. And, ultimately, God in His providence, has
allowed for 42 months for that to happen: 1260 days.
So thatís what I see coming. But what I believe is, I donít believe
that the doctrine of the coming Anti-Christ should be used as
fatalism - that we should: ďWell, thatís coming, so we canít do
anything about it. The bastards are coming to take us out.Ē
Thatís an excuse to cowardice. We need to do our duty. We need to
resist evil in ourselves and around us, and as long as we have
breath. And part of resisting that evil is resisting the Jesuit
Order. Itís resisting anti-Christian tyranny. Itís resisting
absolutism. Itís resisting criminals who are in your government.
We have a civil responsibility, and thatís to make sure government
punishes evil and rewards good. And when it doesnít punish evil
anymore, itís no government. We donít know allegiance to it anymore.
We withdraw our allegiance, and we assume our own sovereign power.
And thatís exactly what the Covenanters did with Scotland when they
withdrew their allegiance from, what was it, King James II, or
Charles II; they withdrew their allegiance and the English settled
there and, ultimately, many of those Covenanters were killed. But in
the glorious Revolution of 1688, they got their liberty.
Another thing is, all these men
- they want to win right now. They
want to do something and experience the win. We have no guarantee of
that. Why not just say the way it is, resist the tyranny, and if we
get killed in the process, then praise God - I mean, isnít Heaven a
little better than this place? Whatís the big fear? All these men do
not know the Lord, as far as trusting Him in the midst of a storm.
Theyíre full of fear; theyíre full of terror; and theyíre all afraid
So, hopefully, with the true preaching of the Gospel
- and ultimately
there will be some preachers who will arise who will encourage us to
do right and not fear death, and to resist these powers of
evil - hopefully that will begin to change and there will be men who
will call for secession, and states will begin to leave this Union,
like Chechnya, and these others, and then the Lord will intervene
If we honor Him, Heíll honor us. If we fight for His causes, Heíll
bless us. And we need to stop looking at the odds. Weíve always been
outnumbered. Weíve always been outgunned. And thatís the way God
likes it, because then, when we win, obviously He did it.
So thatís what I see for the future, and I see thereís a great
vacuum right now that needs to be filled. And it can be filled with
the men of God telling the truth, or it can be filled with Jesuits
advocating everybody give-up, lay down their guns, and submit to
this New World Order, under the Pope.