Q: (L) I have a question that may
take us somewhere. I noticed when I was reading these
transcripts that when we were discussing the origin of the
Celts, that the question was asked, by me, were they in any way
superior to the indigenous people of this planet? And the remark
was, that they were sturdier in some way. And then I commented
that they didn't appear to be sturdier than and others, and, in
fact, because Celts are very fair, and very thin-skinned
looking, they actually look very delicate. It just seemed to me
to be kind of an odd remark to make. However, the response that
I received, which I didn't pick up on at the time, was that they
were sturdier, but not necessarily on the surface. So, does that
"surface" mean surface of their appearance, or does that surface
mean surface as in underground? That's my question.
Q: (L) Now, in talking about these large underground cities or
enclaves that we've talked about on a couple of occasions, it
has been said that these beings come and actually may take human
babies. I mean this is like fairy lore, legends, of different
kinds of creatures that come and steal people's babies, and they
go and live underground, and sometimes, one or another will
(T) Are the Celts part of these
Q: (L) Well, what's the story?
A: They went underground.
Q: (T) When did they go underground?
A: Several occasions, the most recent being, on your calendar:
1941 through 1945. Last episode of mass migration, mostly
Q: (T) Underground. We're talking underground, as in under the
surface of the earth. Is this what we're talking?
A: Antarctica. Under there. Entry port.
Q: (T) They went underground in
Antarctica, they built a large
underground base there, this is where the Germans, as in the
Nazi Germans, claimed territory
A: Yes, but they entered through their constructed base, as
instructed, then were assimilated.
Q: (L) They were assimilated into the population already
existent? Underground cities, underground bases?
Q: (L) So, they didn't build them, they entered into them as
instructed, and were assimilated into the population?
A: They did build a base.
Q: (T) Now, you said instructed... Instructed by whom?
A: Those identifying themselves as "Antareans."
Q: (L) And who are the Antareans?
A: STS Humanoid Orion linkage.
Q: (L) What is an STS Orion Linkage?
A: An STS race from Orion that is humanoid.
Q: (L) How did the Nazis get hooked up with these "Antareans?"
The Thule Society originated contact.
Q: (T) And the Nazis failed in their first attempt to take over
the world, so now they are down there waiting for their next
Q: (T) So there is truth about the rumors that
Byrd found a line
bases down there.
A: Yes, but he was led to believe he was chasing what amounted
to merely an encampment of detached Nazis.
Q: (T) So Byrd must have SEEN something and was then led off the
Q: (V) Are they coming back out now in the shape of the White
Supremicists that are like popping up all over the place?
They've been coming and going all along. Admiral Byrd was sent
down there, supposedly to go to the South Pole, the first
Admiral Byrd expedition to the South Pole; but he took a large
military force with him. He was still a U.S. Admiral at the
time. The large military force encountered resistance and got
their asses whipped real good down there. But, they kept it real
quiet, because nobody knew what was really going on down there.
So, they just said, oh, it was a scientific expedition. And in
reality, what they'd done was to go down there to root out this
base out after the war, and they didn't do real well at all!
They lost a whole lot of people and a whole lot of ships, and a
lot of equipment down there. That's why all these bases are in a
ring around the outside; all the scientific bases from different
countries; Russia, the U.S., Great Britain; all these countries
have these scientific bases all along the outer edge of the
Antarctic. They're scientific, they use them for study, but they
are there to monitor what's going on, that's why they don't go
into the Antarctic.
(L) What do these guys plan on doing?
A: This is where "The Master Race" is being developed.
Q: (L) And what is the timeframe they have planned for this
A: Never mind.
So, that was that!
Apparently there are
things that are dangerous to know!
But, at a later time, after the movie "Independence Day" came out,
we decided to ask about the significance of this film.
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Q: (T) Is there any significance to
the movie "Independence Day?"
Q: (L) What was the primary intention of the makers of this
movie? The primary message that they attempted to convey?
A: Infuse thinking patterns with concept of aliens. Part of a
Q: (L) And what is this project?
A: Called "Project Awaken."
Q: (L) And who is behind, or in charge of, this project?
A: Thor's Pantheum. Subselect trainees for transfer of
enlightenment frequency graduation.
Q: (L) What is enlightenment frequency graduation?
Q: (L) Well, is this group STS or STO?
Q: (J) Are they aware of each other? Working on this?
A: Yes. There is more to all of this than you could dream. An
army of Aryan psychic projectors.
Q: (L) And what do they project?
A: Themselves... Right in to one's head.
Q: (L) Project right into one's head... is anybody subject to
Q: (L) And, when they project themselves right into someone's
head, what does that someone perceive?
Q: (L) Inspiration to do things?
A: Yes. And...
Q: (L) To do something, and to understand or perceive something,
is that it?
Q: (J) To believe something?
Q: (L) So, how many are in this army?
A: 1.6 million.
Q: (L) When they're doing this projecting into someone's head,
where are they projecting from?
A: Mostly subterranean.
Q: (L) Subterranean, so these are the people of the tunnels, the
underground bases and all that sort of thing. Are they 3rd or
4th density beings?
A: Both. This is an intense activity, directed towards
influencing the high level creative forces.
Q: (L) Was there something subliminal in the movie? That opened
A: Sure. Not for you, but for others.
Q: (L) Why not us?
A: You already have the knowledge.
Q: (T) The movie was meant for all of those who don't
A: Say hello to Gene Roddenberry.
Q: (L) In other words, say hello to him because he was doing
that sort of thing a long time ago?
Q: (L) Why did you bring up Gene Roddenberry?
(J) Because he was
doing it in Star Trek?
Q: (T) He was doing a whole different thing with Star Trek...
(L) When you say influencing high level creative forces, what
are these high level creative forces that are needing to be
influenced, or desirable of being influenced?
A: Those in the creative arts.
Q: (L) So in other words, this group is using their projecting
ability to influence those in the creative arts to do creative
things that will therefore influence the people on the planet.
Is that it?
Q: (L) And, these individuals are in the underground places, and
you say that they are both
STS and STO. Are there any specific
things about this movie other than the general import of opening
to the idea of aliens...
Q: (T) So, we're looking at some Aryan psychic projectors who
are trying to stimulate people in a positive way, a la Gene
(L) Now, that's an assumption. Can we say that
they are stimulating people in a positive way?
Q: (J) Can we say that some of them may be stimulating people in
a negative way?
Q: (L) So, there's probably a little of both. And you say that
we are immune to it because we already have knowledge. Now, when
you say we have knowledge, do you mean just knowledge in
particular about aliens and alien realities and alien potentials
and so forth?
A: Yes. The seriousness of the situation... the reality of it...
this is not fun and games.
When the book "Cosmic Voyage" by
Courtney Brown came out, we all passed a copy of it around and found
it to be full of clear and evident "propaganda" of exactly the type
described in the "Thor's Pantheon" session.
Stargate Conspiracy - A Review, analysis, and commentary on the
book by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince':
The Cassiopaeans very clearly told us
that there was an "army of psychic projectors" which they designated
as "Thor's Pantheum," which was being used to influence
individuals in positions of power and in the creative arts so as to
have them produce books, movies, television shows and series - all
with an agenda in mind: the same agenda identified by Picknett and
Prince in 'The
So, we decided to ask
some questions about it.
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Q: (T) I want to ask about the book
Courtney Brown wrote, "Cosmic Voyage," concerning the Martian
A: It is true that there are underground bases on Mars, but they
are Orion STS, NOT "Martian."
Q: (T) Are there Martians as portrayed by Courtney Brown?
A: Not exactly. He is portraying the Orion STS as the Martians.
He is more of an "agent provocateur."
Q: (T) Is he working for the government?
A: Not directly, and remember, the government is not one entity.
Q: (L) Who is primarily backing Courtney Brown?
A: R______ group.
Q: (L) And, is M____ L________ and company part of this R______
disinformation group at this time?
Q: (L) LM?
Q: (T) Did Courtney actually do remote viewing to obtain the
information in the book?
A: Not really. Not needed.
Q: (T) Does this mean that the whole story is concocted on his
A: Semi. Elements of it are factual.
Q: (T) Yes. I could see that there were factual elements. I
could also see that there was a LOT that was questionable. that
conflicts with EVERYTHING else that has come out from other
researchers not to mention what we have received here. This is
all totally twisted and different.
Q: (T) Is Courtney able to do remote viewing?
Q: (T) But he did not use it with this book?
Q: (T) So, the book is NOT an account of work that has come from
remote viewing sessions?
A: No, but not needed.
Q: (L) You have said twice that remote viewing was not "needed."
Where did he get his information?
A: Secret sources. Agents of the nation "of the third eye"
Q: (J) What or who - is the "Nation of the Third Eye?"
A: Terran civilization under the surface.
Q: (L) Have the Aryans AKA Nordic types as described by Courtney
been glorified as the "master race" because they are more suited
to living underground?
A: Close. All types there are "Aryan."
Q: (L) Okay, is this a Terran underground civilization that has
developed on its own?
Q: (L) Is it managed or manipulated by Orions as well?
Q: (L) Are these "managers" Orions from other densities?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) I don't understand. Are there some that are 4th and some
that are 3rd?
A: The human types there are "bi-density."
Q: (L) Holy Shiite Moslems!
A: Grays and Lizards are 4th density. They can "visit" 3rd
density, but they must keep returning to 4th in order to
Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as
long as they want in any density?
A: In 4th and 3rd.
Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease on
A: Well, not with "equal ease," because 4th density is easier,
Q: (T) So, the information Courtney Brown was given to write
this quasi fiction book, is about the Aryans and not about the
A: "Martians" is easier to understand for the less well-informed, not to mention any discussion of the densities!
Q: (T) Absolutely. Martians are easier to accept. A lot easier
to understand than densities!
(L) Okay, Third Eye. What is this?
A: That is what they call themselves when pressed for an
explanation by surface types, such as yourselves. They were the
inspiration for Masonic lore and Illuminati, too.
Q: (L) Does this "Third Eye" designation have a connotation of
third eye abilities as we understand them?
Q: (T) Does Courtney know he has been had?
A: He has not been "had." He is under the employ of those who
pull the levers, so to speak.
Q: (L) You said "pull the levers." Is Courtney Brown a robot,
Greenbaumed, mind-controlled, implanted, or any or all of the
(T) Or is he just foolish?
A: No. Not so foolish, he does not worry about paying the power
bill. As Forest Gump said: "Stupid is as stupid does." Who is he
hurting? And, he has hit the jackpot with this one. Knowledge
can be procured by reading literature, then analyzing it.
Q: (T) Is the time table that he has given correct?
Q: (T) So, the powers that be are going to follow this time
table and present the Aryans as Martians?
Q: (L) Are the Aryans going to present themselves as Martians?
A: Initially. In order for the Terrans to get used to the idea
Q: (T) But, they are not the good guys. Beware of Greeks bearing
A: But, do not forget that some of the "good guys" are identical
Q: (T) Is this a subterfuge on the part of the Aryans so that
they can slide in quietly and take over?
A: No, they do not need that at all. It is a way for the
"government" to introduce everyone to the new reality of the
existence of intelligent life all over the place, not just here.
Q: (T) So, they have their own agenda, but it is not what
Courtney presented in the book.
A: It does not matter. The book is a somewhat altered "New
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Much later, about a year, the Cassiopaeans brought up the subject of
underground bases on their own. It is unusual for them to initiate a
Q: (L) Ok, we have several things
that we discussed earlier, is there anything you wish to say
before we launch into questions?
A: Underground bases see dramatic budget increase.
Q: (L) Ok, why do they have a budget increase?
A: Because there is much more activity to come.
Q: (L) Ok, what kind of activity?
A: Broad range. Experimentation, utilization and implementation.
Q: (L&; T) Of what?
A: Human "resources." Plan falling into place for "harvest." And
other purposes of STS forces' plans.
Q: (L) What is this thing called 'The Harvest'?
A: What do you think?
Q: (L) Well, is that harvest in a negative event, or harvest in
a positive one? I mean, as in the harvesting of the wheats and
Q: (L) Ok, now you say the plans are falling into place. What
specific events of the past, say, several weeks, or months,
whatever period of time set aside, are these plans that are
falling into place? I mean, what's the key in the lock?
A: Have you been paying attention, as we have always suggested
Q: (L) Of course! I just asked you because I wanted you to
enumerate! Of course I'm paying attention!
A: Lately, there has been diversion for you.
Q: (L) Well, it doesn't mean I'm asleep!
A: V mentioned the weather earlier. Was that a bit "nippy" for
you in central Europe in December and January, A?
Q: (T) But it could also be that HAARP adds to it.
(L) I don't
think that HAARP has anything to do with the weather. The
"disinformation artists" would love for us to think that HAARP
has something to do with weather. 'Yes, we're having bizarre
weather. Let's blame it on HAARP!' because we're going to think
(V) I guess the point I'm trying to get at is,
are these weather changes promoting some changes in the physical
body, that's making the physical body more 'harvestable?'
A: We told you that "HAARP" was being designated for capturing
and modulating electromagnetic fields for the purpose of total
control of brainwave patterns in order to establish a system of
complete "order on the surface of the planet" in either 3rd or
Q: (L) Is
HAARP in operation at the present time?
A: Yes, in its early stages.
Q: (T) Is the spreading of all these communication towers out
across the country the equivalent of a HAARP program on a
A: Back up system.
Q: (L) So, they don't need the towers to operate the HAARP
system, but they are there as the backup?
A: Towers serve dual and lateral purposes.
Q: (L) Is the weather being controlled or changed or in any way
affected by HAARP?
A: Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a
2) Chloroflorocarbon increase in
affecting ozone layer.
3) Change in the
planet's axis rotation orientation.
4) Artificial tampering by
3rd and 4th density
STS forces in a number of different ways.
Q: (L) All right, were those given in the order in which they
are occurring? The fourth being the one that's coming later?
A: Maybe, but remember this: a change in the speed of the
rotation may not be reported while it is imperceptible except by
instrumentation. Equator is slightly "wider" than the polar
zones. But, this discrepancy is decreasing slowly currently. One
change to occur in 21st Century is sudden glacial rebound, over
Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages develop much, much,
much faster than thought.
[Discussion of new scientific theory recently presented that the
earth is expanding.]
Q: (T) Is the Earth expanding? That's just putting it bluntly,
but, is the Earth expanding, how did you put that?
that's the theory: the idea is that the continents move away
because the Earth is expanding, and this is much faster than you
know, than geologists were thinking.
A: Continental "drift" is caused by the continual though
variable, propelling of gases from the interior to the surface,
mainly at points of magnetic significance. By slowing down of
rotation, Earth alternately heats up and cools down in interior.
Q: (L) Why does it do that? What's the cause of this?
A: Part of cycle related to energy exerted upon surface by the
frequency resonance vibrational profile of humans and others.
Q: (T) Ok, let's go back to the beginning of the session, when
we were talking about the acceleration/expansion on underground
bases in preparation for the harvest. Is that world-wide, we're
A: Yes, but United States is focus, due to particularly
cooperative power structure profile.
Q: (L) What I would like to know is what particular steps are
being taken, what particular activities are being stepped up?
A: Acquisition, staging, testing of planned activity.
Q: (Laura) And what is the planned activity?
A: Control of absolutely everything.
Q: (L) Well, swell!
(T) That's the one world government! That's
what they want!
(L) OK, is there anything in particular that we
can do to...
A: Knowledge protects, ignorance endangers. Awareness makes you
less vulnerable, both directly and indirectly. Heard anything
about synthetic blood, and blood and plasma alteration lately?
Q: (L) All right, I'll bite! Go ahead, tell us about the
synthetic blood and the blood plasma.
A: Less "mutes" needed. Bio and cyber/genetic humanoid types now
increasing exponentially in general population. You may have
already encountered one or two during the past 10 days. Reflect
upon activities, and power and influence centers for answer.
Some more time went by and I obtained several books about
"underground bases" and read them. This led to more questions.
Q: In this underground bases book I have been reading, there are
two old miners telling a story about falling through a hole in a
mine into a city of gold with mummified soldiers sitting around
a huge table, and a 98 foot tall, solid gold statue. I would
like to know if this was just a story these guys made up?
Q: So, they did not fall through a mine shaft into a city of
gold in the Panamint Mountains?
A: The area around Death Valley does have many underground
mysterious mysteries, but many have heard the legends.
Q: Okay. Just a general legend being repeated and embellished. I
thought so. Now, I noticed when looking at the map that there is
a place called "China Lake Naval Weapons Center" right next to
Death Valley. I mean, aside from the fact that it is a NAVAL
station nowhere near water, is this connected in anyway to these
underground bases or cities?
A: In a circuitous way.
Q: I also notice that Edwards Air Force Base is a little to the
South of there, and my guess is that these bases are connected
to this underground tunnel system, these underground bases or
cities. Am I going in the right direction?
A: Draw a line on the map to connect Death Valley, Edwards, and
the Antelope Valley. Then connect with Mount Shasta, Mount
Ranier, Back to Las Vegas, on to Sedona, over to the Archuleta
Mesa, then on up to the Denver Airport.
Q: Well, speaking of
the Denver Airport, C may be going there
A: Then have C go to that airport, observe carefully, then
report back her findings. Very important, because the murals
there are directly connected to what you are studying carefully
right now. Superclues to be found there, which can point to
monstrous future plans of 4th density STS and much, much more.
Q: Okay. Change gears: Why is the rooster, or the crowing of the
rooster, associated with the idea of underground cities,
civilizations, or bases?
A: What causes the rooster to crow?
Q: Light. But, how is light related to an underground city?
A: Its not just light, but the emergence of light from the
depths of the darkness.
Q: Are there such things as 'DEROS,' as described in this
underground bases book?
A: Detrimental Robots.
Q: Are DEROS part of the underground city/bases scenario?
Q: Well, we notice that things are really heating up. Weather,
government exposure and confessions of this and that...
A: Massive alien/UFO coverage, some fictionalized, some not.
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Going in another direction, there was a funny mention of the
"underground" while discussing certain popular theories about
"bloodlines" and the "Holy Grail" and all of that.
Q: Now, all these Masons are very
the Sinclair family and the Rosslyn Chapel. They are
certain that their guys came to America, because in this chapel,
built supposedly by a Master Mason, there are carvings of corn,
as in maize, and aloe vera plants. This is evidence, to them,
that Prince Henry the Navigator and all the Templars and all
Q: Well, then, what IS the explanation for these carvings in Rosslyn Chapel?
A: Visitors yes, but the Masonic creed is intertwined with
ancient order of Essenes, arising out of ancient Egypt, from the
secret knowledge stored at the base of the Sphinx, as left there
by "Atlantean" survivors.
Q: Does anybody in the Masonic order know anything?
Q: Well, how high do you have to go to get to know anything?
A: Page 33. Blond and blue-eyed, of course! Before genetic
alteration, one branch stood eleven feet tall.
Q: Speaking of these tall guys, during the time that all that
mess was going on over in Scotland with Wallace and the Bruce,
the Templars were being dissolved in France...
A: Dissolved?!? We think not! They merely went "underground."
Q: Is that literally or figuratively?
A: Why not both?
Q: Well, there are Templar organizations that some Mason's claim
to be in contact with.
A: And where do you suppose these are?
More recently, there was a book entitled "The Ultimate Alien
Agenda" which promotes a clearly "Reptoid Propaganda" position.
I decided to ask some questions about it.
Q: Onto this alien book. It seems to be almost a point by point
refutation of some of the things you have told us about these
Reptoid aliens. At the same time, it is very revealing. This guy
says that 'alien scientists have developed an array of human
programs or life orientations which they use to create human
hybrids. I was programmed to serve others, and most of my life
has been devoted to service as a public official, educator, and
psychic counselor. My life exemplifies one category of alien
programming.' Is it a fact that the Reptoid aliens are making a
bunch of hybrids to 'serve others.'
Q: Another thing he talks about is the underground laboratory,
and he has a terrible time trying to speak about it because of
the pains in his head. He finally gets to the point where he
admits that part of the human 'engineering' project, part of
what they are doing with the embryos they create by harvesting
human eggs and sperm, is that they use them for 'nourishment.'
Naturally, he is aghast at this admission from his own memory.
And somehow he just glosses over it. Is this true? That some
human embryos are being created to provide nourishment for
A: In a sense.
Q: He never comes back to this specifically, except to vaguely
state that the vats and body parts and all that which are
reported by many eye-witnesses, are merely 'symbolic' imagery to
teach us how unimportant the body is... can you comment?
A: Not necessary. We have already told you.
Q: He further says that the Reptoid aliens have been increasing
human intelligence for these many thousands of years with the
intention of letting go and leaving us on our own. The Reptoids
are going to pull out soon, because they just came to help us
evolve, and now we are at the stage we can take charge of things
ourselves... Have the Reptoids been increasing human
intelligence? Is this part of their agenda?
A: Perhaps, but the agenda is not as stated.
To learn about the "alien agenda,"
High Strangeness, Alien Abductions
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