Joseph Duggan: David, what
have you been up to since we talked almost a year ago?
David Icke: Well, Iím just on my way to spend a month in
South Africa where I have television interviews and a whole
series of lectures and talk shows lined up. They are very
interested in my information because they realize that there is
something big going on in the world arena as well as within
their own country. Because of their relative isolation, they are
very keen to hear information from outside their country. What
is interesting to me, as I travel, is that exactly the same
agenda is being implemented in every country I travel to.
Because people from different countries donít talk to each other
and the international media are being used to bring about the
changes desired by
the global elite, nobody realizes this.
instance, in every country Iíve visited, they are struggling to
maintain access to herbs and supplements under the onslaught of
codex and the WTO. Social services and support for workers are
being dismantled on a global scale as country after country
adopts the austerity measures being forced on them by the
international bankers who have actually created the economic
problems in the first place. Yet most people think that their
problems are unique to their own country; this is far from the
Joseph Duggan: Do you have a deeper understanding of this
global agenda now?
David Icke: I can chart, with illustrations, how the same
group, starting in the ancient world, has manipulated humanity
up to the present day. Their organizations, corporate assets as
well as secret societies can be traced by understanding the true
meaning of everyday names and logos including the real meaning
of Columbia. What their agenda amounts to is basically using
every tool at their disposal to maintain the status quo and
their power base. Everything from mass
mind control, economic
enslavement, political control, media control, and military
control are being used to implement a program to bring about
complete domination of the world.
Joseph Duggan: What about the constitution and bill of
rights, as well as the BNA Act in Canada? Donít these protect
citizens from domination by a few?
David Icke: This is what we are led to believe, but I can
demonstrate that both the US and Canada have never been free
even from their very inception. The very cleverly written US
Constitution has all of the loopholes needed to circumvent it at
the appropriate time. The BNA Act in Canada does not even have
the implied protections of the US Constitution and is basically
an act spelling out the powers given to the appointed
representative of the King or Queen of England.
Joseph Duggan: Have you been able to identify the secret
group behind the secret societies we are aware of, such as the
Council on Foreign Relations, the
Trilateral Commission, the
David Icke: I have positively identified this group as
what I call the Black Nobility, which includes the Queen and
Prince Phillip. By the time I get to Vancouver, Iíll be able to
reveal the true role of the Queen of England and the real facts
around Lady Dianaís death.
Joseph Duggan: One thing I donít understand is how this 'Black Nobilityí has been able to continue its manipulation of
the human race for thousands of years. Why do successive
generations follow suit?
David Icke: This is done through the maintenance of blood
lines. For instance, Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor, or Queen
Elizabeth II, is, like all the royal families of Europe, an
ancestor of that pivotal figure in the take-over of Britain
William III, Prince of Orange, the man who signed into existence
the Bank of England. In short, the ancestors of the Windsors
were fundamental in putting the Black Nobilityís William of
Orange on the British throne, after which the Bank of England
and the power of the City of London were firmly established.
Queen Elizabeth, through her Hanover ancestors, carries the
bloodline of the Black Nobility in Germany, back via the Black
Nobility Venetians through the Phoenecians, the Egyptians, to
Sumer and, no doubt, Atlantis. Prince Charles can trace 3,000
years of descent alone from Edward III (1312 - 1377), the
monarch who formed the elite Satanic Brotherhood group, the
Order of the Garter. Successive generations in these bloodlines
follow their ancestors because they are very carefully educated,
initiated, and put through Satanic rituals such that they are
totally under the control of the secret orders they are inducted
into and whose direction they eventually follow. If they donít,
they are assassinated or taken out of power.
Joseph Duggan: You have also been doing research
regarding all the missing children. What have you discovered?
David Icke: Directly linked to the control being
implemented by the Black Nobility is mind control, Satanism, and
the missing children. Ted Gundersen, a former high-ranking
member of the FBI, has given me figures of missing children from
a private organization in Denver where, of 19,000 missing
children in 1995, only 11,000 were found. Eight thousand were
still missing. If these figures are extrapolated to the whole of
the US, it means that somewhere around 400,000 to 500,000
children go missing every year. Apparently, similar figures
exist for many parts of Canada mostly urban areas of high
statistics from California)
Joseph Duggan: Why donít we hear about all these missing
David Icke: The media reports the sensational cases, but
there are thousands of cases that they never report. First of
all, the US Federal registry of missing children is only
concerned with children where there is evidence that they have
been taken across state lines and therefore come under federal
jurisdiction. So, if you consult their figures, you see that
they are much lower than have been reported when you check and
total up missing persons state by state, as I did. Children who
go missing within a state are often street children who have
been away from home for years, as well as many children who are
reported missing; but, because of the sheer volume of missing
persons, nothing much is done. There is also a great lack of
funding, social workers, and manpower to follow up on all of
these missing children.
Joseph Duggan: Where are they all disappearing to?
David Icke: This is what gets upsetting. Many of them are
taken into Satanic rituals for human sacrifice, others are
abducted into secret CIA and government mind control projects.
Cathy OíBrien was a victim of this type of operation, except
that her father sold her to
MK-ULTRA and he became part of that
whole program. Many children are needed for these mind control
experiments and come through breeding programs, adoption
agencies (particularly, it seems, Catholic ones), from the Third
World where children are kidnapped and parents sell their
children, and through a network of Social Services agencies.
There are also organizations whose job it is to find children of
the right genetic background for specific mind control projects.
Other children are kidnapped and sold as sex slaves in the
pedophile rings, some of which have penetrated to high levels in
the government of Canada, the US, Belgium, and
rings have been exposed by individuals like Cathy OíBrien who
named Pierre Trudeau, Brian Mulroney, George Bush,
etc, in her book,
Trance Formation of America. The same
pedophile rings exist in every Western country, but have not as
yet been exposed. The white slave market in the Orient and Arab
countries is still active and, according to Ted Gundersen, a
white, blond, blue-eyed teenage girl can be sold for $50,000.
There are even kidnapping rings that will photograph prospective
children for clients and then grab the one they choose. This is
hard to believe, but it is happening.
Joseph Duggan: What is the good news in all of this?
David Icke: The great news is that people all over the
world are waking up to the truth about what is really going on.
Itís as if a light has come on in human consciousness and the
Dark Nobility is desperately trying to maintain the darkness.
This information is painful and brings up a lot of fear and
feelings of helplessness in people, but if we can embrace it
with love and understanding, while realizing that it is only
happening because we have given up our power to these dark
forces, it can be cleansed from our world. However, as long as
these activities continue to be carried out in secret, and we
are in denial about their existence, we are powerless to change
anything. Standing in your light of love and truth does not mean
that you personally have to go out and fight these forces, but
it contributes towards the light and love within human
consciousness which will finally overcome the dark forces.
Sooner or later, we will all have to decide which side to align
ourselves with. Iím here to point out what is really going on
and to remind people that they have a choice and that we do have
the power to turn things around. In fact, as I travel, I feel a
tremendous turning of the tide. We are going to succeed, and the
change in consciousness I have experienced around the world is
phenomenal. We are part of it and, just as it is difficult for a
fish to understand what water is, it is hard for us to
understand the tremendous changes happening in the consciousness
of our world. Yes, humanity is waking up and we will see the
effects of this tidal change in human consciousness in our