source: The Hieronimus & Co.
Filmmaker Boris Said and Researcher Richard Hoagland Agree and
Both Richard Hoagland and Boris Said are vocal about their
suspicions that others in their field of interest -- Egypt --
are hiding what they know or have discovered, and for a variety of reasons.
Boris does not conclude the cover-up is a conspiracy, but believes
instead the Egyptians are most interested in the new discoveries being made
by Egyptians and any delay would be caused by pride.
Richard, on the
other hand, is convinced that certain officials in charge of granting
permits for excavation and study and releasing information on discoveries
are deliberately hiding or blocking some of the most extraordinary
possibilities. They joined Dr. Bob Hieronimus together on March 8,
1998 to discuss both the areas upon which they agreed and where they
Richard Hoagland is a former science consultant to Walter
Cronkite, CBS News, CNN and NASA,
and an advocate of the artificial creation theory for the anomalous Face and "pyramids" Mars. In August of 1993 he received the
Angstrom Foundation Medal for Excellence in Science. His Mars
anomalies research led him to the study of the ancient mysteries in
Egypt when he noticed the striking similarities between the Face on
Mars and The Sphinx. He says there is "a real set of
connections that we now can prove connects this extraordinary complex on
Mars at Cydonia with an equally extraordinary complex on Earth at Giza."
Boris Said has a very unusual biography beginning with an education
at Princeton University and a fluent knowledge of several languages
including Russian, French, Italian, Spanish and English. From 1953-1980
Boris was a sportsman and attained several automobile racing speed
records. He was a member of the U.S. Olympic Bobsled Team in 1968 and 1972,
and in 1980 Said began the transition to film work as he both drove the
four-man bobsled at the Lake Placid Olympics and worked on TV interviews for
Since 1983 his credits have included writing, producing and directing
documentaries on bobsledding, dolphins, a Zulu witch doctor, and other
varied topics. The 1994 NBC TV feature documentary that he produced with
John Anthony West, "The Mysteries of the Sphinx" hosted by
Charlton Heston, was awarded an Emmy.
Boris first learned about the mysteries surrounding the monuments in
Egypt and the questions about their origins from John Anthony West,
when in 1990 West asked him to help make this documentary. West was
working with Boston University geologist Dr. Robert Schoch whose
ground breaking work indicates that the age of the Sphinx
is thousands of years older than the Egyptian civilization itself.
came to it with no opinions whatsoever," says Boris, regarding the
controversial debates on the new findings.
"I mean, I didn't know. I had
just about figured that Egypt was spelled with a "y" and Sphinx was spelled
with an "i", and I had those backwards for a while.... I listened to
Robert Schoch the first trip explain why the Sphinx was
older than 4-5000 years, and it just made perfect sense to me, I mean,
nothing could have been more obvious. The marks were there, it was in the
stone, and so I got interested right from the start in... an alternative
viewpoint to the age, and perhaps the meaning, of those monuments."
In his bio, Boris states his life goal is to prove the existence of
ancient, highly advanced civilizations on our planet, perhaps our true
ancestors. It's a new life goal for him, he says.
"My life's goal used to be
to go faster than anybody else, but now I'm doing something a little
headier, and it came from my initial exposure to Egypt, and I've got to
thank John Anthony West for that."
WHO BUILT THE PYRAMIDS?
To this eternal question, Boris says,
"they were Egyptians, they lived in
Egypt. I mean... we've called them variously "Atlantians" and,
I suppose, "Little Green Man from Mars", but that was Egypt, and so
therefore, to me, they're Egyptians."
He says there is no way the pyramids
were intended to be tombs for Pharaohs.
"They've never found bodies in them.
There's no single mark that identifies the pyramids as the tomb of any
particular Pharaoh and, to the extent that in some of the pyramids bodies
were later found, I think these structures were probably used as tombs by
people who came later. I think that whoever created these structures used
something that we don't know [about]."
Robert Bauval revealed how, at
the dawning of the Age of Leo, the air shafts in the Great Pyramid point directly to the stars of Orion.
Boris continued to point out how the Sphinx looks like
a lion, "its got to give you some indication that the people back then knew
something we don't know."
Richard adds that we are the descendants of these architects of the
Egyptian monuments, whoever they were. He notes that when he first began his
research into the Face on Mars in 1983, he remembers the almost
unanimous reaction of archeologists when they were shown unidentified
pictures of the Martian anomalies.
"The answers ranged from Hanuman, the
Indian monkey god, to an aerial view of some pyramid complex in Egypt..
Initially looking at these things, I was thinking in terms of aliens,
in terms of other, in terms of visitors to the solar system who had erected
a stunning artificial complex on Mars.... Over the ensuing 15 years... my
thinking has come perhaps 180º and in good measure because of... John
West, Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval."
began wondering about the possibilities that the anomalies an Mars
perhaps could indeed be related to the monuments in Egypt.
"Which really got me to
thinking," he said. "If this stuff on Mars was not alien, if it wasn't
somebody else, somebody from way out there, then the comparisons between the
architecture we find at
Cydonia on Mars and the ancient enigmatic
architecture, bits and pieces of which we have found now all around this
planet, maybe make the case for a previous high civilization epic on planet
Earth, in which case we could be looking at our stuff, the human race. So I
think Boris is very perceptive when he says, ultimately, it's
Egyptians that did what we see in Egypt. The only question is, how ancient,
ancient, ancient were those Egyptians?"
WERE THE PYRAMIDS ON MARS BUILT FOR THE SAME REASON AS THOSE IN GIZA?
Richard says to answer that, one has to examine what the pyramid
complex in Egypt was used for,
"By tracking the numbers, the
geometry, the specific angles, the relationship of these things to each
other, and their relationship to the sitting of the things here on Earth,
particularly the Giza Plateau, we have gotten on the trail of what I
call, an old/new physics, which we term hyperdimensional physics. It
turns out its the same physics that physicists like Maxwell and
others in England were attempting to launch about 100 years ago.
at Cydonia, the numbers on Mars, the numbers at Giza,
the numbers of many ancient sacred sites all over this planet, are the same
numbers that Maxwell and Kelvin and those colleagues back in
England 100 years ago were deriving as the basis of the physics of the 19th
and 20th century.... The usage of the pyramid complex at Giza appears
to have been in service to this physics. These were not tombs, not temples,
but potentially, machines, huge machines built of limestone as the working
substance, the working material, at a specific site on a rotating planet,
such as Cydonia is on a rotating Mars."
The positioning of the
structures was of the utmost importance, having to consider the physics and
the interaction of the "pyramid machines" with the planet
itself when they were turned on. According to Hoagland, this is all
technology which we are just beginning to glimpse again, incredibly ancient,
incredibly sophisticated, incredibly arcane. We can only now see the empty
shells of what might have been a functioning complex whose purpose we are
also just beginning to dimly grasp. But it was light years beyond providing
tombs for some egocentric Pharaoh."
Boris Said agrees,
"It's very difficult to find fault with Richard's logic,"
noting that Bauval's concept suggests the pyramids were placed in a
position representing the stars of the Orion constellation.
Boris is now working with Tom Danley, sonics expert and
consultant to NASA, to explore the air shafts leading down
into the King's and Queen's chambers, "which have been described by
Bauval as lining up with the stars of Orion. Quite
recently a fellow named Gantenbrink sent a robotic camera up the end
of one of those shafts and he found a door with hinges and apparently some
space underneath it. What we've been doing is, we've been approaching this
problem from a completely different scientific viewpoint.
testing the sonics of the Great Pyramid. We've
known for a long time that if you lie in what they call the sarcophagus,
which is that stone box in the King's Chamber cut from a solid piece of
granite, and you hum, you hum a scale, for example, there will be certain
notes that sound louder and more resonant to you than other notes. And
recently we had an opportunity to put sensors all over that pyramid,
including the five chambers above the King's Chamber, which I guess
we're going to discuss in more detail later, and we found that when we
activated the pyramid with hugs speakers and amplifiers in the King's
Chamber that all of these sensors resonated, leading us to believe that the
entire pyramid was some sort of huge sonic machine."
Richard equates the pyramid to a pipe organ. The openings of some of
the recently discovered air shafts from the King and Queen's Chambers are
open now and wind is blowing across them like a pipe organ. When you blow
air across an organ pipe you get a certain resonant frequency.
Richard Hoagland says the builders of the pyramids created hyperdimensional machines, placed at certain latitudes on the
spinning planet to excite certain acoustic resonances when the air
passed through the open passages.
Boris adds that even if the passages were closed, if you had an
internal excitation mechanism, the pyramid as a whole will resonate with
certain fundamental tones. The more power, the more energy, the louder the
"What we proved," says Boris, "was when we got back to the
laboratory and analyzed our recordings, we found that there were sounds
present in the King's Chamber even when we weren't making any sounds. They
were below the audible range, below 20 Hertz, below 20 vibrations per
second.... Down as far as half a vibration per second, or half a Hertz.
We found that these lower scales had the same five peaks, and when you
plotted the peaks on a graph and raised them three or four octaves to where
you could hear them, low and behold, it was the same notes. It was the same
chord... an F sharp chord, which the early Egyptian
texts suggest was a harmonic of Mother Earth. And I
might tell you, coincidentally, and we bring this out in our tape, a lot of
Native American makers of sacred flutes, tune their flutes to F sharp.
Why? Because it's compatible with the harmony of Mother Earth.
Now that's just too big a coincidence."
THE PYRAMIDS WERE USED FOR SONIC RESONANCE
"We're right now working on a program to replicate
the Giza pyramid in a virtual reality state with virtual
sound, which we believe will restore, in theory, restore the pyramid to the
way it was when the sides were smooth. You know if you think about the wind
blowing over the aides of the pyramid, it's like blowing across the mouth of
a pop bottle. It makes a hooting sound, it makes a toot, right? You blow
across a Coke bottle? Well, we think that's what used to happen with the Great Pyramid.
And we believe that if we can replicate the
pyramid, make it smooth, and get rid of the incursions, all of the
tunnels.... We believe that maybe the entrance to the pyramid was from the
bottom, from down underneath somehow, a long series of tunnels. Because
clearly, there was no intrusion into the grand gallery, and we believe that
was all part of the giant echo chamber that enhanced the vibrations....
We're gonna try and compare this condition to other pyramids around the
world and see whether perhaps that wasn't what they had in mind."
Richard explains that in resonance theory,
"it's really the mass and
the length of the cavities or chambers that determine the ultimate tones
that a structure will produce."
He says Boris and his NASA
colleagues are on the trail of a theoretical model that Stan Tenen
and I have been working on for about ten years relating to the model that
the pyramids really were machines designed by an extraordinary physics, much
older than the classical Egyptian model, designed to do something
interacting with the planet.
Now, if you excite these things
acoustically, meaning with sound, not from the outside but from the inside,
with technology which is now missing because it was all taken away, you got
the same effect that Boris is talking about.
"The very structure of the pyramids is calcium carbonate, limestone, which
has a certain molecular configuration of the crystal. It's a little
tetrahedron made of calcium and carbon atoms, over and over and over
again in six million tons of this stuff stacked up in a perfect geometry of
the crystal itself called the Great Pyramid. Now if you excite
this, if you basically create a tone inside with some kind of huge loud
speakers or huge system powered by some energy source... the result is the
entire pyramid, all six million tons, will vibrate. It will resonate. It
will sound a set of tones, the tones that Danley and Boris are
now tracking, in a very faint way."
Richard envisions the builders of
the Pyramid designing it so the amplified tones would literally twist the
calcium carbonate crystal back and forth in a rhythmic pattern in such a way
that you could also twist space and time itself and
potentially create extraordinary changes of consciousness. He goes on to
"because the pyramid, through the plateau, is anchored to trillions
and trillions of tons of this limestone stretching a quarter of a way around
the planet to Indonesia, you literally could change the resonant
characteristics of Planet Earth itself if you pumped enough
energy into the pyramids [serving] as machines at their precise latitude".
ALL THINGS ARE VIBRATION
Boris says be doesn't know about hyperdimensional physics and
space time travel, but he,
"loves the work that Richard's doing and I
think it should all come together.... What I'm saying is that if you lie in
the pyramid and you hum or you chant it's conceivable that you could put
yourself into an altered state... There is a very easy way to establish the
logic of this argument, and that is to try it out, and that's what we're
trying to do. There are sounds .... that tape, you know, that were made
inside this King's Chamber, and if nothing else, they're spooky."
they are something different, something we haven't heard, or been exposed to
in a long time, although researchers like Don Campbell, a former
guest on 21st Century Radio® are showing how vibrations and classical music
can be used to assist healing in surgery and in analysis.
"I think that
we're getting to a point," says Boris, "where all of a sudden we're
going to find out that vibes is not just a colloquial expression for the New
Age.... It's where healing is, it's where altered states are, where
HOAGLAND AND SAID TAKE SIDES ON THE GANTENBRINK DOOR
Richard explained the significance of the famous Rudolph
Gantenbrink discovery that has caused so much controversy in the past
"Back in the early '90s one
Rudolph Gantenbrink was invited to the plateau, to Egypt, with a
little robot called Upuaut, which means "opener of the
way", to basically go up the shafts between the interior of the pyramid
and the outside -- the air shafts in the King's Chamber that angle up at
about 45 degrees through the masonry, through that six and a half million
tons of limestone, and then similar shafts that angle up at a similar angle
from the Queen's Chamber which is below the King's Chamber, down deep in the
bowels of the pyramid, almost in the center, and also now exit on the
outside -- or at least the ones on the north exit, the ones on the south do
not, and Gantenbrink built this at the cost of something like two or
three hundred thousand dollars -- a little robot with a cable, with
closed-circuit television, with lasers to direct it, and he sent it up the
shaft inside the pyramid and he videotaped what he saw.
circuitous routes, this video made its way out of Egypt when there was a
political kind of "falling out" between the Egyptians and the
Germans. And it wound up on the BBC through the good offices
of, among others, Robert Bauval, who kind of "midwifed" this to the
world. And what we saw was the discovery of a here-to-for unknown little
door, about eight inches square at the end of about a 180 foot shaft angled
up from the Queen's Chamber that this little robot had imaged
when it crawled up on its little tractor treads to the end of this tunnel.
And the big controversy was, number one: What was behind the door, because
it was a long way from the outside of the pyramid. There could be a very big
room behind that little door. And number two: Why did the Egyptians,
particularly Dr. Zahi Hawass, who's in charge of the plateau,
suddenly get very uninterested in going past the door and finding out what
was on the other side? Boris?"
"Well, OK, I view the story slightly differently, and this is one of the
places Richard and I disagree" said Boris. "That's because
Zahi Hawass has never precluded me from shooting anything I wanted to
shoot in Egypt, in fact, has given me three opportunities to go up above the
King's Chamber with a full television crew.... My understanding of the
Gantenbrink story was that when Gantenbrink got permission to use
his robotic camera there, he was supposed to have had an agreement with the
Egyptian government where the announcements of what was back there were
going to be made by the Egyptian government, giving him full credit.
Egyptians claim that what Gantenbrink did was violate the terms of
their secrecy agreement, went out and broadcast the whole story to the world
as his find. And the story that I heard was that not only the Egyptians but
also some of the official German organizations were a might "put one with
Mr. Gantenbrink for leaking the story". Now, I don't know which is true,
but I can tell you that I've never had a problem. I think that a lot of
these problems, these secrecy problems, arise because people forget that
we're dealing with Egypt, with a sovereign country, and that the artifacts
and the secrets of the past in Egypt are, after all, Egyptian.... There are
more Egyptian artifacts in the British museum than them are in all of Egypt,
for God's sake, so the Egyptians have some precedence for being a little bit
"put out" with what they see as foreign exploitation."
is, the door is discovered in '93, it's now '98 and, as far as we know, no
effort has been made to put an optical probe, a fiber optics cable, a little
TV camera, anything under the door -- there's a crack, the bottom right hand
corner. Nor has there been any effort to go through the door or to raise the
door as a portcullis, which it appears to be. And Zahi Hawass is
officially on record as saying at one point that there was nothing behind
the door, that it was simply a false trail, and there was no interest
Boris says the door may be like an air regulator for using the Great
Pyramid as an instrument.
"If someone would ask me today what the door was
about, and I'm sure a lot of people disagree with me, I think it's like
looking at a clarinet I think that door has something to do with regulating
the flow of air down that shaft and I also think, because I want to just
sneak this in here edgewise, that the reason these shafts are not straight,
the reason you can't see through them to the stars of Orion is
for the same reason that the neck of a saxophone isn't straight. I think it
all has something to do with the velocity and the effect of the air blowing
across those shafts.
They are eight inch shafts -- what in the world could a
door be doing there? I mean, presumably, eight inch people were trying to
get in and then locked the door, or presumably it was to keep rain out? The
shaft is 240 feet long. What I'd like to know is, if you've got a shaft
eight inches in diameter, extending for 224 feet or whatever it is, on an
angle up through solid rock, why would you put a door 20 yards from the end,
Richard points out that it's quite possible tha,
are not classic Egyptian, that they're much, much older, maybe circa
13 thousand years old or maybe 50 thousand years old, or maybe even older
than that, because there's no way to date the stone. It is conceivable that
we're dealing with a high tech civilization that placed these pyramids there
for purposes that have nothing to do with the classic Egyptian mythologies
He continued by saying,
"the Egyptians that came much, much
later, the current generation of Egyptians, and by current, I mean the last
6,000 years, merely took advantage of preexisting monuments built by their
great, great, great, great, great, great ancestors and created ceremonies to
explain the ineffable, the enigmatic, the mysterious. It's conceivable that
if these pyramids were left there by a very sophisticated, high tech race,
long vanished into time the same lineage of whatever built the structures on
Man, of that caliber of technology, then in essence they could be time
capsules. And time capsules only function if you can keep the barbarians
from getting at the pod stuff in the time capsule until the time is ready.
The eight inch shafts are perfect deterrents to tomb robbers and grave
diggers and all the stuff that's going on in Egypt in terms of everything
valuable being looted in the previous several thousand years. The only way
you can get up that eight inch shaft is by a 20th century technology and
science that can build a Gantenbrink robot, send it up the shaft,
knock on the little door, and see what's waiting for all of us behind it."
Boris wants to know,
"How come if they were going to leave a time capsule
they would leave it at a place where it would be reasonably easy to excavate
from the outside? Why didn't they put it down into the pyramid, or why
didn't they hide it some way? My question is, how come, fee up there at the
end of an eight inch shaft? Well, you could shinny up the outside of that
thing, and whack away at it with pick axes, and probably get to it."
CONTROVERSY OVER THE SCHOR EXPEDITION
Boris was part of the Dr. Joseph Martin Schor expedition in
1996, which was funded by the A.R.E. He recalls,
"When we were
doing our radar and our seismic tests under the Sphinx, we
located what appeared to be a 30 by 40 foot cavity about 30 feet below the
paw. I went to Dr. Schor in 1995 [and he] agreed to fund an
expedition to try and record the opening of that tunnel. We spent two years.
Dr. Schor had a permit to explore the Giza Plateau, and
we had a permit to film. Dr. Schor took over all the science and the
government negotiations, and I wound up the filmmaker."
During the ensuing drawn-out negotiations with the FOX Television Network,
the Schor expedition returned several times to Egypt to record the
exploits. In the Fall of 1996 Boris reports that they uncovered a
polished, black granite sarcophagus lid at the bottom of a well, 120 feet
below the surface of the plateau. They put their ground penetrating
radar to work and determined that there was no sarcophagus under the lid.
Instead, about two and a half meters down, it appeared there was an
"anomalous cavity" two and a half meters wide with a domed ceiling that
descended at an incline of 25 degrees in the direction of the Sphinx,
about 275 yards away. According to their seismographer, there was no
geological formation that could have been responsible for that sort of
configuration on the radar.
After their return to New York, FOX essentially
demanded absolute control over the script and content of the show they were
working on, even though they already had 42 minutes of a 48 minute hour in
the can. Boris says at the same time he was becoming suspicious about
FOX's motivations, and decided their proposal was more of a "sell-out".
"In the end," he says, "I thought, if we're that close to opening the
tunnel, let's just go open the tunnel and see what's down there, you know,
and then well run an option later with the network. What I did not know..
[was] that Dr. Schor's permit to explore the plateau had been revoked
by the Antiquities Committee, I know not why. But when we got over there in
February of 1997 and went down in the bottom of the wells to film, we found
out that although we had a permit to film, there was no permit to actually
use the radar. And that's when it hit the fan, because at that point I said,
"what is this, how come we weren't told?"
And Zahi said, "I thought
you knew" and, of course, I didn't know because Dr. Schor hadn't
bothered to tell me. To make a long story short, they would not let us lift
the lid, they would not let us dig down into the tunnel, and that's where
the matter stands. My own feeling is that the tunnel is probably under
water, because I believe it's below the water table, the tunnel is below the
water table that exists on the Giza Plateau at the moment.
There are all sorts of rumors that they've been trying to pump the water out
of there, which is kind of like trying to lower the level of the ocean. And
I also understand that they lifted, that they raised that Sarcophagus lid
and were unable to dig beneath it because of the water, but that's hearsay."
"Now Dr. Schor is suing me for control of the film," Boris
continued, "and I'm basically trying, through alternate means in Egypt, to
persuade the Egyptians to open their own tunnel, because, as you know, as
I've said before, I believe that the Egyptians are sovereign and I believe
that they should be in charge of opening this tunnel. I've even offered to
create a television production in conjunction with, and in association with,
Egyptian television, so that the Egyptians would have absolute and complete
control over this project. I trust them to tell the truth. I think that the
problem is that there have been so many agendas, you know -- FOX,
Dr. Schor, God knows, all these people seem to have an agenda."
After obtaining permission from the Egyptian authorities, Boris would
like to take a group of impartial observers to Egypt and have them standing
around the monitor when the excavation is attempted.
"What we're trying to
do is get permission to drill a hole into the room and send a camera down
through the hole... send a sealed drill down, so that no air can get in, in
case there is something perishable down there, and send a camera down, and
see what's down there."
Richard disagrees with the significance of the Schor
expedition discovery of the "secret" tunnels under the Sphinx,
suggesting the commotion created by the Egyptians about them is merely a
diversionary tactic employed to distract the public from the truly important
location for excavation: behind the Gantenbrink door. He says some
extraordinary footage fell into his hands from unnamed sources connected
with the Schor expedition.
"That footage not only corroborates
the idea that there's really interesting activity going on inside the
pyramid but that activity includes the actual digging of what I've called a
secret tunnel. [They are] sequestering limestone from that tunnel in little
burlap bags, actually they're big burlap bags, upstairs in chambers above
the King's Chamber for a while, and that the ostensible, possible reason for
this secret tunneling is to get into the room behind Gantenbrink's
Door without anybody knowing."
Boris points out that using the term "secret tunnels" is incorrect.
"The tunnel is a fact.... The tunnel was as obvious as a tunnel would be.
Get up to the top of a level there, and there it is, you know. Where it
goes, I have no idea. It certainly seems to go in the direction that
Richard says this room would be. It seems certainly to be heading in the
direction at the end of that air shaft. I just don't believe they're hiding
it. If they were hiding it, my question to everybody is, why would they let
me up there with a crew?"
Boris says that with all the pros and cons
about Dr. Zahi Hawass,
"I can only tell you that he has never said to
me, 'Don't shoot here'. He's never said to me, 'You can't go there'. They
have made it certainly difficult to get permits to dig, to excavate, that
sort of thing. That's been unbelievable -- and I think a lot of that's to do
with the ego of who's going to get to make the announcement, who's going to
get to be the discoverer, and so forth. So that's just my own personal view.
But as far as that tunnel is concerned, yes it's there. Where does it
go, I don't know. It was 10 feet long the first time I saw it, 40 feet long
or 50 feet long the second time I saw it, and it was clearly being dug, sort
of, along one of the walls of the first chamber above the Kings Chamber."
Larry Hunter and others claim that under the direction of Zahi
Hawass, items are being secretly removed from these newly discovered
chambers and sold on the black market. There are other even wilder rumors
circulating on the Internet attached to the recent legitimate discoveries in
and around the Great Pyramid and Sphinx.
Richard says he has "no current knowledge, rumors not withstanding,
of things taken out of the pyramid that are of a high tech nature." In terms
of Larry Hunter's stories, Richard states, "I do not have
access to his sources and I can't vouch for their accuracy or inaccuracy."
He does point out, however, that completely independent of Larry,
years before he ever even knew that Larry existed, at a 1987 book
signing he was approached by a young man with appropriate credentials who
claimed to be related to,
"one of the most prominent
nuclear physicist the world has ever known," someone "critically involved in
the development of the Manhattan Project." This young man
claimed to have direct knowledge of an American C-130 dispatched from Wright
Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton Ohio to Cairo after which it was secreted
away by the U.S. Air Force at Wright Patterson where it was undergoing
He also notices coincidences
that indicate other discoveries could include "very important technological
artifacts... in another secret chamber... down towards the Queen's Chamber
from the grand gallery access." He says there were "three rooms discovered
[with] radioactive sand in them, down that corridor, by the
Japanese and the French."
"Whether this has taken place several times over the history of the modern
exploration of the pyramids, I do not know," says Richard, "but there
is a pattern here.... The pattern is that under Dr. Hawass and the
Egyptian Antiquities Council, a variety of foreign experts, using very
sophisticated, high technology tools, over the last 10, 20, 30 years, have
been brought to the plateau, have found major discoveries, and then they're
kicked out. And we never find out what happens to the leads and the
"doorways" they literally open. That is very disturbing to me."
Boris says he doesn't know anything about "C-130s and
radioactive sand," but be is in touch with a fellow now "who claims
that the Ark of the Covenant was buried up there somewhere and
was radioactive." He also says that,
"periodically there are stories
of blue lights coming out from under the Sphinx and people disappearing and
so on.... But again, all I can tell you is, I've never seen anything
disappear illicitly from the pyramid, and I maintain that whatever the
Egyptians want to take out of their pyramid is not illicitly taken out. It's
taking the stuff out I don't know what they've taken out. I've never out.
never me always been very open with me. Perhaps they have an agenda.
Perhaps they want me doing my thing there and distracting people from the
truth. I don't know. I only know what I see through the lens and that
is, everything that I've asked to photograph.
Now, I haven't gone to Zahi
and said, 'Hey, we'd like to take pictures of the C-130 next time it comes,
you know. I mean, we're looking for what's going on under the Sphinx.
We're looking at the Pyramid as a possible clue to a previous civilization,
and if, along the way, we turn up some evidence that Richard could
use, I'm thrilled." He's certain no theft is taking place. "I've been
working an that plateau for nine years and I have a lot of friends there,
and they know that if they come up with information, they have my collect
number to call.... And I can tell you, I don't believe that that's happened,
over the last nine years, in any event, since I've been involved. Now, I
could be wrong. I'm not, you know, I'm not there, I'm not the CIA, but not
to my knowledge has any of this stuff been going on.... I believe that
Zahi is protecting the Sphinx. I think that he was born to
that. I think that his life's goal is to protect his plateau, and I think
he's trying to prevent what he sees as foreign exploitation of the
sacraments of the sacred objects of Egypt... I think that he or the Egyptian
archeologists or the Antiquities Department would like the credit, because
so far they haven't been credited with anything. It's all been Howard
Carter and a variety of French and Japanese and German archeologists."
Richard says he has no
direct knowledge of a cover-up or secret discoveries, but emphasizes that
"if you believe that the establishment would not allow into the mainstream
stunning evidence that the pyramids are older than 6,000 years, that they
were built by a civilization so much more ancient that our heads would spin
if we were to have physical, verifiable proof then you can believe that
that level of suppression of that extraordinary kind of evidence would, in
fact, take place. In the real world, in the mainstream world, the
circumstantial evidence in favor of the suppression theory is here. Since
1993 we've had an extraordinary puzzle, the Gantenbrink Door,
and nobody has been allowed to go behind it, Why not? ... It makes no sense.
It's illogical to find a mystery and then say we're not going to try to find
out the answer."
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