The following is an
exact transcript of a Tibetan Time Transference
performed before an audience of approximately 700 people on
Saturday, August 27, 1994 at the Learning Light Foundation,
This is a very dangerous form of
much like a post-life progression into the future, but far more
intense, where soul energies are actually shifted and switched.
There is always the danger of getting trapped in the astral plane "Outside
of Time." It is a very secret technique that is unique to the
training of the Black Hat Sect of Tibetan Buddhism.
The Black Hats travel the time stream and it is from this sect
that the Oracles to the Dali Lama are chosen.
(Moderator and Director
Learning Light Foundation
in Anaheim, Calif. The date is August 27, 1994) We have got a really
interesting event for you tonight. By a show of hands, how many
people have seen
Sean David Morton
(Everyone in the packed 700 seat auditorium raises their hands.)
That’s great! Well when you have seen him in the past he has done
some talks about UFO’s. He’s very well known for his
research out at "Area
51." He was just on the Vicki Lawrence
show talking about prophecies. He just taped a show with Montel
Williams on "Area 51" that should air next month.
When he’s been here he’s talked about UFO’s, he’s
talked about earthquakes; and his prophecies and predictions for the
Well tonight, for the first time ever, publicly, he’s going to share
with you one of the ways he’s gotten some of that information about
the future. It is a Tibetan Time Transference Technique.
He learned this at the T’ang Boché monastery in Nepal,
which is 30 miles from Mount Everest at the foot of Mt. Ama
Dham Lam. He’s done this before, many times alone, but he
has never done it in this format. He wanted to try it out, and you
people are the first ever to see it. He says as far as he knows
nobody has done this technique publicly anywhere in the world.
he wanted to try it, and he asked to try it here at the Learning
Light Foundation because he likes the energy here, he likes you,
the crowd, and I think that deserves a round of applause. (Very loud
applause) Because its you that makes him feel welcome here. Okay,
he’s preparing right now but he’s going to spend a few more minutes
getting into a meditative state - and the reason I’m asking all the
questions ..... One is - he hasn’t done it this way before and he
thinks this will be the best for him. He says he can’t sit here and
field questions from the audience, he needs one voice to tie into so
he has an anchor in this time frame - and to make it clear - because
what you are dealing with is time....
Everything in time happens at the same time,
once, and the only way to travel through time is on the
astral-level - so he is going about 100 years into our future, to
roughly the year 2096 which we will hear later is actually the year
65 or 66 to them because they restart the years along about 2034....
and we’ll ask him about that. What he’s going to do is contact his
grandson to be, who is also himself in a future incarnation. So
instead of a past life regression, its a post-life progression. For
Vajra, the name of his grandson to be, its more or less like
a past life regression for him, but we are going to be here on the
end of that. We’re going to be on the receiving end of this other
man’s past life regression so its a very interesting process.
If you are used to seeing Sean speak- he can come out and
keep you on the edge of your seat for four hours. He’s not going to
be able to do that. He’s going to come out - go into the meditation
- and talk to us as long as he can. If he gets this connection
working he hopes to stay with us an hour to an hour and a half. If
any questions come up during the show please come over here to the
table, write it down, and put it in the basket. But we can ask him
about the world, what’s happened, what his life is like now, what
the country is like in his time... So if something comes up during
the show and you want to ask him a question please write it down,
and we will try to get through as many of them as we can, and
hopefully he’ll be able to stay with us long enough to answer all of
So Ladies and Gentlemen, Sean David Morton!
(Very loud, raucous applause!)
you, very much. (Pause) Good evening. Doug probably gave
you the best explanation that I can think of.
This is a somewhat unusual talk this evening. This is not me in
the suit and the tie with the maps doing the razzle dazzle -
talking about alot of the things that you probably read about in
my Delphi Associates newsletter. What I’m going to attempt to do
is very deep and very personal for me. So I very much appreciate
the fact that Doug is going to be fielding the questions
and he gave you probably the best explanation that I can give.
Just to give you a little bit of background... In 1986 I lived
in a monastery in Nepal which is called T’ang-Boché.
It was a Black Hat Tantric Monastery that’s on the
way to Mt. Everest. I was there for about 8 months or so. And it
was there that I learned this particular technique. THIS IS NOT
CHANNELING! I am NOT giving up my body or essence to some other
spirit or entity. I am, quite literally, trading places with
myself at a future time. It is totally different from
It is very rarely used, and is unique to our sect, simply
because of the fact the Tibetans put a great deal
of emphasis on the here and now. On the vibratory frequencies of
not being in the past and not being in the future. But, because
they do place so much emphasis on past lives, specifically
because it gives you an idea of your patterns, so you have an
idea as to where you have been so that you can continue forward.
Paying off your karmic debts so to speak. Breaking the wheel
called Samsara. Time can also be a stream. Instead
of going into the past one can astral travel into the future.
Sometimes, when I get in this state, this individual that I am
going to speak to or, that is going to speak to you, does not
agree with everything that I think here now.
There are still many things in his time line, in his reality,
that can in fact be changed from this, or our, current time
line. One can change what we call, the ’Quinta’
of time as opposed to the ’Quantum’
of time. The Quantum of time has to
do with the mass consciousness, with the reason why all
of us are here. And the reason why we are here specifically is
because this is very much a school, a college, a university -
and as such there are certain lessons, and certain things that
we agreed to learn when we came into this school. There are
certain classes that must be taken. However, the future that he
comes from, even though he will exist in it, and even though the
majority of society there is as it is, does not mean that
certain things that we do in this time line and this time frame
cannot change certain events that get us there.
He talks about getting to where they are either the hard way or
the easy way. And the only reason why I am doing this now is
because in the next 5 or 6 years or so we are going to have
very, succinct and very specific decisions to make every day as
to whether or not we are going to do this the hard way or the
easy way. So I appreciate your indulgence and your understanding
with the way that we have to do the questions through Doug.
As I said, this is a very difficult technique for me. Its very
straining, and it would be very distracting if I had to take a
large number of questions from a large group of people so
Doug and I did a brief meditation before this so that I
could feel a little bit more connected with him. So without any
further ado, if you will allow me to do this here, this takes
just a few minutes - to get into. There may be some somewhat
violent physical reactions, its all right, I’m okay, I hope.
(Laughter from the audience. A deep sigh) Here we go.
(Approximately 1 minute
of near silence and then three claps are heard - followed by a
minute of chanting. Another 30 seconds of near silence.... sounds
begin to emerge from within the trance..... then heavy breathing,
gasping, maybe crying, frantic, fear, sudden panic, choking,
gagging, gasping, trying to silence the breathing, which is almost
normal again - then silence. Shivering with cold - or maybe -
shaking with fever.
Then difficult breathing, wheezing, hurt or
injured - suffering - suffocating. Faint crying, this lasts for
roughly 3 or 4 minutes. Sean is in fact traveling forward and
experiencing his own death, to fully disconnect himself. There is a
brief period of "Crossing" in the void. as Vajra’s
consciousness comes into present time, Sean is coming alive
in his body in the future, getting to spend a few hours on the ranch
in the future time-line. Then from silence to a 60 second time frame
moving towards this time and place..... slow deep breaths - coming
closer .... drawing nearer to transference .... 5, 4, 3, 2 ... )
Blessings to you my friend.
DOUG: Blessings to you.
VAJRA: Where is this?
DOUG: We are in Anaheim, California.
VAJRA: (He laughs) And when is this?
DOUG: It is August 27th, 1994.
VAJRA: My hair. (He touches his head and shoulders.) It
was so much longer a few moments ago. Hello my friends.
DOUG: Well we welcome you here. Can you visit with us a
VAJRA: Om. I have made the time.
DOUG: What year have you just come from?
DOUG: Can you explain to us, I know.... I was told
earlier they restarted the numbering of the years.
DOUG: Can you explain to us why they did that, and when
they did that?
VAJRA: Om. You are on the old calendar, Om? This is...?
DOUG: August 27, 1994.
VAJRA: Ah. Before the turning of the Great Age. Om?
VAJRA: It is sometimes hard for me to remember the old
calendar which is..... Our years, from the old way, are shorter
than your years, by some. Our years are, by your counting are
still 24 hours, but our year is only 336 to 340 days. Where if I
remember correctly, and this is not my specialty at all, your
years were 364? 365?
DOUG: 365. Yes.
VAJRA: Our years are 336 to 340 days. It varies because
we are on a lunar calendar, and we adjust for the 28 odd day
cycles of the moon, and Gaia or Earth,
is now in a new orbit with a new ecliptic. A "New Heaven"
if you will.
The years began over after the ’Time when there was no time’.
There was a great meteor that struck the planet in the area that
you and we would call the Northern Atlantic Ocean. And when this
comet struck the planet, it took the Earth off its course for a
brief period. And there was great chaos in those years. It was
not until year One, that the clocks were restarted. And so that
is why I come to you from the year 65. Which would.... I am not
sure what it would be from your counting. It would be
approximately 100, 101 years of your 365 day / year time.
I am 37 years old by that counting as we speak now. The person I
am communing through is my grandfather, corrective?
VAJRA: Om. (Laughs) I would not enjoy getting THAT mixed
DOUG: And you are Vajra, yes?
VAJRA: Yes. I am sorry. How do you do? My name is Vajra of the House of Morton, (Bows and places his hands in
prayer and touches them to his heart, lips and forehead.) Om A
DOUG: So you are the grandson of Sean David Morton?
VAJRA: Om, and yet he and I are the same.
DOUG: Because you are he in a future life, by our
DOUG: Okay... and Sean told me earlier that "Om" also
means "yes" in your vocabulary?
VAJRA: Yes, in the old English. Yes.... apologies.
DOUG: Okay, thank you. You talked about the birth of the
chosen one. Can you explain that a little bit?
VAJRA: It came at the same time as the Sign In The Sky.
After the striking of the great comet, the great
meteor, after the nuclear weapons were finally leashed. By your
timing, and I am not very good with the old calendar, it would
be... In our calendar it would be seven years B.I.
(Before the Immanuella) which would be from our year zero
back 7 or 8 to your year 2027.
The comet struck directly after much of the
nuclear weapons were loosed at the area that in the old tongue
was called China. There was a period where there
was timelessness, where there was a great thick cloud that was
over the planet for those periods of 7 or 8 old standard years,
and then there was a Great Sign in the sky. The
Great Sign, as it has been told to me, was of all
the Vimanas, Conveyances, crafts,
transports..... all of the great Starships of the Galactic and
Inter-Galactic Federations that did not interfere in our history
but simply appeared - on this one day at our year zero, and
appeared in the sky for one full day, so that all of mankind
could see that we were part of a greater whole. So that all
of mankind could see that we were not to be left alone, that we
had something to work towards. Even though they did not
interfere, it came as a great revelation for many people on the
They altered our ecology at that point. There was cleaning by
the Sky People of the atmosphere at that time by these many
great ships, all of which simply came into this density at one
particular point, and when they came all into one density they
became visible to the point at which we are now, or were....they
became visible, for that one solar day, and they brought mankind
Without interfering in our history, they cleaned the atmosphere
and cleaned much of the soot and dirt and radiation that had
accumulated in the upper layers of the stratosphere and the
ionosphere at that time and period. For a period of those years,
the 7 to 8 old solar standard years, there was a period where
the Earth itself was off course, where there were great changes.
We did not know when the days were, when the nights were. It was
black for many days. It was light for many days. And at that
particular point they stabilized the orbit so that since then,
when the time codes had been started over, our year now, as you
call it, is the 336 days, 24 hours still, but 12 months of 28
days (plus several hours) apiece, plus consideration of the
lunar cycle, which of course is not exactly 28 days.
They brought us back into harmony with the rest of the solar
system and back into harmony with our own moon. The
gravitational force of the moon was causing the great many
earthquakes and volcanoes and earth changes upon the planet
every 5,000 to 5,500 of the old solar standard years, and so by
bringing us back into line we now have very moderate climates
all across the Earth. Even though many places are still
desolate, even though many places are still waste lands where
the people live and many live beneath the sea, there are still
those who live in space and still those who live on the bases
and outposts that we discovered on the moon, and so, this was
the beginning of the time coding of our year zero or one - which
in the old calendar was 2034 AD.
I am not avoiding your questions. There was at that point a
birth in what is now a much larger Island of England, near the
place called Stonehenge, and this was the birth
of the Chosen One. The Magical Child. The White Buffalo Calf
Woman. This was the birth of the woman who has become our
Queen, the woman who has become a leader, as you would
describe it, of our planet. She is called the Immanuella,
and She, for no words that I have, would be considered a
She had great technology. She was able to crack the codes
around the rearrangement of physical matter. Her symbol was
the Ank and the Staff of Ra, which She
used as devices which allowed her to channel energy from the
Ark of the Covenant and rearrange certain types of matter;
rearrange certain types of structures. She had access to the old
ways, and she came into her queenship at a very, very young age.
She was infused with Messianic Consciousness at the age
of five years. At the age of 7, She was recognized and
Coronanated. So at her birth, at zero, which was the same day as
the great ships appeared, we restarted our clocks and as of now,
we are in the 58th year of her glorious reign, in the year 65
AI. (After Immanuella or After Incarnation.)
DOUG: Is this what the Bible refers to as the second
coming of the Christ?
VAJRA: The term as used is a knowingness that all of us
have. It is a knowingness of who we are. It is a knowingness of
our place. It is a knowingness of never having not known the
Creator. Of never having not known the Grandmother, the
Grandfather, the Creation and the Great Mystery of all that is
It is not a question of now; us being separated. The
Immanuella is simply the highest manifestation of this force
on the planet, but each one of us knows the joy, knows the
light, knows the power, of this communion. So, to say that
She is the Christ would be accurate. She is the One
predicted and foretold, although Her coming took everyone by
surprise! Certainly, many expected a man. Like, (how did they
say? ) truly, a ’thief in the night!’ But She was
of the lineage of the House of Judah, so Her blood AND
Her Spirit were recognized. We understand.... the balance of
that spirit, and are all striving to become The Christ, or God
We understand that the mind is the builder from the sayings of
the past. We understand that that which is created in the mind
instantaneously begins to manifest in our reality and so we must
be very careful about that which we think, about that which we
manifest. Even these trips through time that I have experimented
with, I have had to work for many days sometimes to rework my
own vibration back to the level of the consciousness that we
have achieved, up from where I have been in the past. I - shock,
I fear, I fear....there is a disturbing residue from visiting a
time as dense as yours. I have been left ill for many days after
DOUG: Okay. Can you tell us a little bit more about the
religious structures? Are the same churches carried forward into
VAJRA: That which you call churches is of...... has
little meaning to me. We all live within the Realm of the
Consciousness. There are those, however, that do not,
who live in the Wastelands. There are those who are more of the
’technical’ than of the soul. I have visited these outposts on
certain occasions and have not found them pleasant at all.
There are many now who live beneath the oceans in technical
cities. There are many now who live in homes and houses on the
Moon, but they are of a technical nature. We represent a
spiritual community. Spiritual communities which were formed
some 20, 30 to 40 of the old solar years before the Great
Recounting - these communities.... words.....shock.... The
communities that you speak of.... that I live in.... words
escape. They are simply of a knowingness. We understand where we
We understand where we are going. We are getting more
and more who are raising up to the vibrations; more and more who
are joining us every single day as they graduate upwards in the
vibration and in the frequency. It is very hard for us here, in
many of the places on this now damaged Earth, to maintain the
proper vibration in order to make the food grow, in order to
make the rains come, in order to do all of the things that we
do. We must be very, very careful about our own energies, about
the forces that exist within us - and at some points, whom we
share this energy with.
The religions that you speak of are still practiced in
many places around the world, but they are very much practiced
by those who are still relying on exceptionally crude
technical means and assistance in order for them to eek out
the survival under which they live. We have a philosophy which
we do not voice, but could be called ’The Way,’ could be
called, or was called in the old times, ’The Keepsake’ of
that which was many thousands of years ago. It is a deep
understanding that All Is One, and we try to live life
without the ’Veil’ between ourselves and the Creation.
We have a direct connection and understand that within our
bodies is the sun, within our bodies is the air, within our
bodies.... our bones are the bones of the earth, that the ocean
is the blood which runs through us. And so we are connected
very, very steadily with the force and the energy that comes
with the earth and so because we are connected with that we see
the connection of the Generator, Operator, Destroyer, the
’G.O.D.’ that exists within each and every one of us and
because of this, we connect with each other.
We see the
Generation and Operation and Destruction of the spirit within
each one of us. We understand that we create the reality in
which we live. That each one of us is the center of the universe
from our own particular unique point of view - and as such, we
act and interact - understanding that we ourselves are God,
which creates all reality and we give respect and unconditional
love to others because we understand that they, within and of
themselves, are also the microcosm of the universe; are also the
Generators, Operators and Destroyers
of their unique reality.
Many of the religions that you speak of, the old
churches, were shattered with .... with .... Day One. They
were shattered with the coming of and the viewing of the ships.
We had to adjust much of our thinking to understand finally
where it was that we have been. Our children now are born
without the ’Veil’. They understand their past lives.
They understand where it is that they have been. This is the
only thing that makes this type of communication as we are now
having possible... my understanding of knowing where I was and
who I was.
I am here with you now because I honor the memory of my
grandfather. I do not do this for any sort of
self-aggrandizement. It causes us both great pain, even though
it is extremely edifying. My grandfather has requested that I
come, and because of my great respect for him I come to you. But
I also understand that I have been many other things in the past
as well, that many of those who have chosen to incarnate around
me now, in some cases I have killed them in a life, or they have
killed me. But it is not something that we take ....
shock.....word? .... ’personally’ - anymore.
We understand that we are the ’Om-Ma-Ne-Paüd-Ne-Hum’, we
are the Soul Shards. That I am not this form, I am
not in essence male or female or white or come from the North
American Union. I am an essence, and as such we
begin as uncut diamonds, as raw lumps, and it is by the
bludgeoning and the striking of that diamond across many
lifetimes, that molds us, that allows us to have these many,
many facets. And that each time we leave or shuffle off a
physical vehicle such as this we go upwards and onwards and a
blow is struck that further helps us to reflect the light of
that which is the Creation.
That sun which we see in the sky is very much a tube if you
will, a tunnel that leads to the center of the universe, that
leads to the center or the Great Omniscient, Omni-Father
who resides at the geographic center of all time and space and
so our lives become a prayer.
We gave up the idea - even though we do have gatherings-- and
they are the most important thing to us- we gave up the idea of
being sacred and/or holy in one particular place - although
there are places of power that must be empowered. We understand
that we must pray in motion, that we must meditate in motion,
that we must - in all that we do - manifest the Generator,
Operator, Destroyer within us - manifest the essence of
the "Is" within all of us.
DOUG: Thank you. I want to switch gears a little bit from
the spiritual to the political. In 1994 we live in the United
States of America, and based on what you’ve just said I trust,
or I understand that the USA doesn’t exist in the same form
anymore. Can you tell us about the country you live in?
VAJRA: I am domiciled in, and am a Sovereign Citizen of,
New Omaha. It is in an area of what was called the
United States of America. We have a flag that is a.... how can
you say?..... it is the color yellow, and it has a serpent
upon it. And it says "Don’t Tread on Me." That flag
represents what we now call the North American Union. The area
in which I live is called the Nation/Country/State of New
Jerusalem but it was made up of a number of what at that
time were called States, such as Kansas and Nebraska and Iowa in
the old.... many of these places .... the names ceased to exist
a long, long time ago.... but there are thirteen different
nation states now, who are independent countries that exist,
where I am now.
DOUG: Does that include what used to be Canada?
VAJRA: Yes, there is a large part of Canada
in the center and west that is still there. Most of what was in
the east however, was inundated, and in the north.... when the
poles began to crack and melt.... when the earth began to come
out of harmony more so and more so and when it was placed back;
we no longer have what used to be called an extreme tilted axis.
That the planet is north / south - straight up and down now. And
so much of the ice caps, both north and south, and many sections
of the Nordic and Scandinavian countries also began to melt as
well, and so when this happened there was a great tundra that
was under great water after many of the massive earthquakes and
after the war, which lasted some 27 of your old standard years,
and this great war claimed many different areas and changed much
of the political nature of that continent which we now live in.
The Great Flu Plague of the early 21st Century did
much to isolate everyone. The New Omaha area.....
most of the old Indian names were gone back to, and many of the
old Indian names were kept, simply because many began to return
to the older ways of the Red Race because that was
the philosophy which worked the Alter of this Creation, of this
continent - and so I live in an independent country of New
Jerusalem in the City of New Omaha in the year 65. We are
considered a global capitol.
DOUG: You mentioned bringing back some of the Indian
names. I had a question from someone in the audience about the
return of the status of the Native Americans.
VAJRA: They are many of our Elders. They
are many of our leaders. They were the ones who, when the great
catastrophes occurred, opened up and saved many thousands of
people. They opened up the doorways into the ’Sideways
Realities’. Many were also transported off this planet by
friendly Sky People, also called ’Shining
Their.... and my history is faulty as so much of
what it was before the Great Change was lost.... Let me explain:
there were great libraries of knowledge that were placed into
magnetic devices, your computers and data bases, and when many
of the earth changes began and when the meteors struck and in
the last great atomic conflagrations, those devices were simply
wiped clean - and the loss of knowledge and letters from your
time to ours was devastating. That which we know now was buried.
I have much of it that comes from my grandfather’s journals
where those were saved as he lived because he carried many books
with him in which he wrote every day and there was a saving of
those; so I have some knowledge as to what occurred from this
time, but I do have some questions also that I would like to ask
you of things now. That is why this kind of travel is
enlightening for me, and worth the risk I take.
When the great Civil Wars began upon this
continent, there was no food. There was a great controlling by
the Dark Ones, by the ones who ruled this land,
that kept food from many for purposes of control, for purposes
of power, and thousands went to the elders of the various Red Elder tribes as they were the only ones left who had
the seed that could grow, that had not been irradiated or
genetically engineered. It was because of this great famine that
swept the land of plenty that my city of New Omaha
became the center of the world that it is today because we still
retain the ability here to grow much of the food that is spread
throughout the planet.
Even now, the reason that we must maintain a spiritual community
here is because we have the responsibility of feeding much of
the world’s population at this time (0065) - And though it is
nowhere close to the population at this time (1994) - as history
has it there were several billion on the planet at this time. We
have the responsibility of growing much of the food of this
planet and so the Red Elders, those
who were native to here, became many of our leaders and showed
us the old ways.
But so many of them had slipped back into the
ways of the Dark Ones, had slipped back into the
ways of evil, and so it fell to many of my race to become their
apprentices; many of my race to become the assistants to the Old
Ones, to bring forth the knowledge of how to open up the
doorways to the other realities, of how to bring the rain, of
how to care for the land and the Earth, and so their philosophy
here and now is very important and very deep to us as it has
always been a philosophy that has been connected with the spirit
that is within all of us, with the Great Spirit, with the Sun,
with the Earth, with the Moon, and with that Which We Do Not
VAJRA: Shock - Answer, Om? Yes! (Laughs) Question?
DOUG: You mentioned about population. What is the
population at your time in the world?
VAJRA: As I speak from my time it is 1.8 billion,
DOUG: 1.8 billion. Okay. You talked about Earth changes,
and changes in our country. A lot of people living here in
California are concerned at this time because there are a lot of
people that talk about waters coming in over the land; parts of
California disappearing beneath the ocean. Can you tell us has
this happened? And if so, when it happens?
VAJRA: Om. I have tried to make a study of this history
before I came so that I could be of service to your curiosity.
There is no part of your planet from my perspective that remains
unchanged. California, however, is still here. It is part of a
greater state called Calineva, which is part of
what is left of the old country, city-state of California
and sections of what was called Nevada, and portions of the
lower sections of what in the old times was called Arizona.
There were great cracking fractures that occurred from the
southern part of South America that began to crack the western
coast. These came directly after eruptions of many volcanoes.
Eruptions of volcanoes in the Pacific Northwest, eruptions of
volcanoes in parts of Mexico, which are now underwater,
eruptions of volcanoes at the tip of the new land mass where
many are settling now, which we call New Atlantis,
in the areas that were once called Bermuda and the
Lesser Antilles and the areas that are now a chain
of islands off where Florida once was. Florida is now a
continuation of that island chain.
The center part of America is the least changed from these many
changes. California is still here in my time. It has broken into
three great islands of which there are waterways that exist
running across the center part of that country and the great
cities that were on the coast, however, were destroyed. The city
of Los Angeles still exists in my time. There is no longer a San
Francisco on the coast, however, it has moved inland by 50
miles. The city of Old Seattle is now in the center sections of
that state which was called Washington, but that entire area now
is called Eden, which is a combination of the old States of what
was called Washington and Oregon.
DOUG: Okay. Can you remember when the splits started
occurring in California?
VAJRA: The dating is hard as the years are different.
This is 1994 with 365 days. By my calculations, the great
fractures would begin in 1998, in the Northern Parts, Eden (
Washington), with also great quakes in Colorado and Wyoming. The
greater problems begin with great flooding across Europe and the
Pacific Northwest and the Midwest in the Americas in 38 to 37
B.I., which would be....(thinks) 1996 to 1997. But as I said
this is only when it all begins in earnest. The flooding
worldwide becomes greater with each year as the rains and snows
do not stop! Across the world water rises and great changes in
temperature begin to effect the Pacific and Atlantic jet streams
and wind patterns. There is more to be feared by this gradual
rising of the water than of the quakes. The water rises and
simply never returns to normal, as the rivers go back to their
ancient courses, regardless of man’s efforts.
DOUG: Was there a lot of death during this process of the
VAJRA: Om. Although we do not see it as such. Many were ’Translated"
as we say, but they will return if it is their Karma to
do so. However, there were great warnings. There was a
consciousness, there was a communication, that took place. There
were those who were listening to the Elders, and
listening to guides who fled to the center parts of the United
States, and who fled inland many months before these great
fractures and floods began to occur, and so the.... it is hard
to explain. There was much loss of life. Yes. And there was much
loss of life all over the world. It was here in the NAU
that the least loss of life occurred across the planet. There
were the two great fractures... in the west of the San Andreas
and along the New Madrid fault line in the east. There were
inundations of the place of the Shumosh
(Washington, Oregon) and inundations in that which was Florida
to make way for the rising of the new continent which is
called New Atlantis.
It all happens over an extended period of some 40 years
beginning in your year 1998. You are what we call "The
Exodus Generation." Old San Francisco had one quake just
before 2000, it was rebuilt, and then another destroyed it
completely by, I believe, 2006. Los Angeles was shaken badly,
but the larger fracture did not occur until.... (thinks, rubbing
his forehead), I believe, 2010. I do know that there is a
terrible shower of meteors in late
2012. One large asteroid
shatters in the upper atmosphere and rains down a ’River Of
Fire’ as it was called. There is also a huge disturbance of the
Earth’s electromagnetic field at that same time which severely
affects the human brain, and wipes clean most of the planet’s
computer data bases.
But I have traveled astrally back in time on many occasions, and
every time the events occur. But if you were to change or alter
an event in the past, we in the future would never know it. It
just becomes part of our history. It is just the way the
time-stream seems to work.
DOUG: So by your year 65, New Atlantis has risen out of
VAJRA: Om. It rose directly after the great meteor, but
also sections of it began to rise with the eruptions of
volcanoes in that area; first with Monserrat and then with Pelé
that began to bring it up above the sea, that began great
inundations in the southeastern parts of the NAU.
DOUG: Okay. Can you tell us a little bit about the
environment? A lot of people today are concerned with the
quality of our air and our water.
VAJRA: There are still great holes in the atmosphere
which we are actively in the process of repairing, in many
different places, with ozone and negative ion generators. We are
also actively replanting the forests and replenishing oceanic
plankton at a furious rate. Many of the ’Techs’ who live
underwater and those who live in the Wastelands and the barren
areas must rely on water regeneration and air regeneration for
their air and their water. We do not need such things where we
are, as we practice The Way, and those who practice
The Way of Spirit and live in harmony with the Earth,
we do not need such things. We also are in connection with many
other of these same communities all across the planet at this
There is much of the world’s communication system which was
rebuilt or restored some 20 of our years ago, however, many will
not listen; many are not worthy to come to us, they.... (shakes
his head, thinking.) that is a negative term... They have not
yet learned certain things about how to be with us. There were
some who came to be with us and they grew very ill because their
spirit, their vibration, if you will, was not at a proper level
as of yet, and so they must learn and grow to be where it is we
are. The environment that we live in is very different.
It is not as if the entire Mother is a vast
utopia. There are huge wasteland sections where there are people
who still live in caves. There are people who still live, as I
said, in tech cities underwater. There is still the great
station which was built some 30 years ago, which is in-between
Mother and Moon. There are the cities also on the Moon, so there
is travel back and forth. So there are a great many divisions in
We have the responsibility here to maintain the Mother
and maintain the spirit for we at the center grow much of the
food from the Mother and for the people and for those who live
in the tech cities. So there is trade, but in some cases we
cannot stand contact with certain of these individuals simply
because of the difference in vibration. If we come in contact
with a person who is of so low a vibration, it can make us very
sick. It can make us almost ’translate’ (death), simply because
a high energy system will always flow into a low energy system.
Our clothes are somewhat protective. We wear white made from an
electra-silk fabric, which aids and increases the
body’s electromagnetic flow, because it is protective
and reflective. We also have much longer sleeves that come over
the hands with hoods which keep the energy in and also close off
the energy here at the forehead. Men wear gold, and women are
allowed to wear silver only and dress in black for Gatherings
and Ceremonies, as it aids in absorbing energies which they need
to balance the men and the Earth.
We do not cut our hair in this short uncomfortable manner, and
we have bands across our heads, each of which has a stone in the
forehead which enhances the ability of the third eye. I am a
possessor of one of the Soul Gems which is connected to
eleven other stones with which we stay in contact with the
various spiritual communities across the Earth. These Soul
Gems come from ancient, ancient times and have been
finally brought back to Earth to help us to maintain the balance
of this planet. My grandfather possessed one of the Soul Gems
for a time, but it is something he never speaks of.
We are still very young. We have only had 65 of our short years
to try to recover from the Great Devastation and
the Great Manifestation that was brought down upon
this planet by the insanities of this age, but those were also
brought by the endings of the cycle of the Mother Earth and the
tearing that was brought by the Mother and the misaligned Moon
and from which much of the Mother was saved simply because of an
intervention at one particular point by those whom we may
someday join. What we term the Sky People... or
the Consortium of such.... who simply appeared. They
still have only a very limited interference in our society.
Sometimes ’They’ come to visit us in prayers and
meditations, but they have made it very clear that they are not
Even the Gray Ones who had taken
some women long ago, (and that practice has been outlawed now),
those children live on the ships; they do not yet live on this
planet... although, and this is part of grandfather’s
experience, but grandfather did have extensive contact, when he
was older, with those of other races from other planets. There
was one great contact that occurred.... has.... at this time has
there been a great visit or Great Announcement from the
DOUG: No, there has not.... not to our knowledge.
VAJRA: There was a man who came, who in our history was
called ’Puana’, and he came before the great crackings of
the Earth. He came before the great wars. He came
before and announced to many people, and he brought two others
with him, where he landed and appeared to all the great
governments at the time and announced to the people the things
that would be occurring if they would not change.
There was one final warning before all of the catastrophes began
to take place where Puana warned the planet, and said to
all the people that this is what will occur, that this future
will happen unless you change the path you are on. It began with
the Great Ships flying in full view over cities in Mexico and
South America, then over the great cities of the United
States. Most did not listen, but he did come, and it will be the
last great warning that this age has before much is driven into
darkness, and since that has not occurred at this point in time,
it will be something that will occur in the very near future
where there shall be a landing and one final warning by this being who warned mankind one last time.
DOUG: Do you remember about what year that might have
VAJRA: No, I do not.
VAJRA: If this is 1994, it occurs at around the turning
of the last Great Age.
DOUG: So before or after the year 2000?
VAJRA: Om. Actually a bit after.
DOUG: Okay. Going back to the Native Americans. Someone
wants to know how can we connect with an Elder who can tell us
when to move inland to be safe from these earth changes?
VAJRA: I do not know.
VAJRA: I do know that in those parts of what was called
the United States, that those areas of Arizona, New Mexico and
Colorado, many fled the great floods and quaking in Calineva into that area of what is now called Hopi
Land, of that great area of mountains and plains and the
place of the Red Rocks.
It is all renamed Hopi Land, because
Elders of the Hopi teach and protect so many, and
thousands return to their old ways of peace and harmlessness.
DOUG: Okay, thank you. Let’s talk a little bit more about
what your life is like in your time. Sean tells me you’re
VAJRA: Yes. I build things.
DOUG: You build homes or...?
VAJRA: I build homes, I build structures as are needed.
It is a humble job. (Laughs) I did not want the kind of
excitement that grandfather had!
DOUG: (Laughs in response) What are your homes like in
VAJRA: Ha! Grand! This is good! This is something I
We use different structures for different things. I have studied
old architecture going back to as many records as I could find,
and I found that structures were not in tune with the physical
bodies of the people who were living in them. And so we tried to
begin to use different types of shapes, and each one of these
shapes has a direct connection to the RNA / DNA helix of the
body so we use tetrahedrons, we use pyramids,
we use dodecahedrons, we use many of the various
shapes, each of which we have discovered
resonates at a particular tone, a
particular density, a particular sound if you
will of the Creation and of that which is in the body.
We have very stringent laws as to the building of these places
so that each one of the places is in tune with the ancient
philosophies of structure so that each building, each home, each
individual is directly in line with the
electromagnetic lines of force that course
across the planet - what the ancients called
"Dragon Lines", if you will.
There was a great deal of knowledge that was passed on to me and
I found an old man who was a survivor from what was China
and he taught me many things about the ancient art of what is
called Feng Shuî, and he showed me dragon lines
of how to build on these areas so that the success and the
happiness and the growth of each person in these buildings can
be in tune and be in harmony with themselves and with the Earth.
When we wish to grow things we use the triangle,
the tetrahedrons, in order to help the plants
grow. We use pyramid shaped structures because these pyramids
resonate directly with the carbon atoms at the center of all red
blood cell matrixes and also with the evolving and developing
47th and 48th chromosomal pairs that we are finding developing
now in many of the younger children.
These unleashings of the chromosomal RNA/DNA helix
we are using now as sections of homes where we would place a
person inside a building and that structure would then
contribute to their well being.
We have a way of making synthetic stones where we will coat the
roof and walls with different types of gemstones: amethyst,
malachite, jade, ruby, diamonds, hematite. We have found that
the gemstones themselves, which are the highest manifestation of
the mineral kingdom, can program the minerals within the body
and that those minerals then create a hormonal balance, and
hormones are the first purveyors of consciousness within the
human form. So we discovered that by placing different
individuals inside different shapes-- paying careful attention
to the angles also as these have a profound effect-- and then
lining the roof with these gemstones, we found that performance
on their various paths and their general happiness and peace and
joy was amplified many times.
So, we also require that there be running water through each one
of the homes we construct, so that there is some form of stream
that will run through the center part of the home. We found that
this contributes to the electrical field and the electrical
well-being of each person within the space. We also found that
it took the negative aspects and negative energy and would pull
them outwards back down into Mother Earth where
they could be cleansed.
So it is not unusual within each one of our homes to see many
circular patterns also because we found that square patterns
were limiting and that energy began to build in the corners
which constantly had to be cleaned, and so since it is so
important to our well being in this state, we formed the
circular buildings out of the geodesic domes. In the
circle we found that that was the best for a family unit
and then we would have tetrahedrons and we would
have the pyramids and the dodecahedrons
for various specialized purposes. But it was important, once
again, to make sure that the home and the places and the
buildings that were built were at first in harmony with the
Earth, and were then in harmony with the people who would exist
in them, were then in harmony with the water flowing through the
center, and were then in harmony with the specific purposes to
which each one of the buildings was to be used.
DOUG: It sounds like architecture includes a lot more
than it does today.
VAJRA: (Laughing) Om! It is not like building the
rectangular coffins you all live and die in now.
PART II of the VAJRA