PC = Phillip Corso
Q = audience questioner
Q: So, I think in
Exopolitics, if you can project into the future,
after each of the world civilizations rises and falls, and I donít
know how long America can stay at the peak of the top like weíre in
PC: Oh, weíre past it. A democracy has never lasted over 200 years.
Q: Right. If you look at history, all the Roman empire, the
peace of Rome and Britain, and so forth, there is going to come a
time when it is replaced. And if India and China and other countries
emerge, and itís economically advancing in that direction, these
ancient scriptures will come back again. Thatís what I wanted to
know what religion Ö.
PC: My father, every night when he would to sleep, when he was
living with us in the last 3 years, I would go in to wake him up.
And heís wake up with a smile, a kind of strange smile on his face.
And I said, ďOh, youíve been at it again? Whereíd you go tonight?Ē
My father was one of the number one [class] Ė in fact, he helped
Hal Puthoff design remote viewing. He was very strong at that. Extremely
strong at that. So with being an intelligence officer, it helped a
lot. He did a lot for peace. And, and, and he did it mentally, with
his mind. A lot for peace. Yes, he was the strangest man I ever
Q: OK, Iím going to put myself on the spot here a little bit too,
with youÖ. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said itís
all happening simultaneously. I think thatís where the confusion
comes because we try to interpret everything happening
simultaneously in order of that information along the timeline.
that, basically, what I was told is that we take in algorithms and
we convert, in our brain, those [confusion of thought] Ė this
information field, and we take in algorithms and we convert that
into what we consider 3, uh, 4th dimensional space, and that these
other off-world Beings are doing the same thing but they create
other 4th dimensional space through these algorithms, so itís not
really dimensions at all.
At least thatís what I was told. I donít
know what your idea about that is. But I think, I think the
confusion that comes in is, weíre trying to discu- Ö Ö. We got one
foot in one world, weíve got another foot in another world Ö.
PC: Thatís a good analogy. My father used to say that about me. He
said I was really stuck ďover thereĒ.
Q: Yeah, and thatís why itís really confusing, you knowÖ. Youíre Ö
the constantly occurring space that weíre in, youíre talking to your
father because he still exists.
Q: Simultaneously, at the same time, youíre trying to talk to people
here that, that are in 4th dimensional space in terms of 4th
dimensional space so, we go back and forth and itís confusing
PC: Itís confusing all the time. Yes.
Q: All the time. Thatís better. It comes and goes. It comes and goes
with me. But, you knowÖ.
PC: Well, weíre limited Beings. And because weíre limited, when you
do infinity [i.e., the infinity symbol], thatís why it lays
sideways. Itís a crazy eight.
Q: Yeah, but this is like, the way I understand it, itís like weíre
in one great thought thatís existing at all t-, e-eexisting Ö.
PC: Well, I might be able to help.
PC: Ö. If the tree falls in the forest and thereís no one there to
hear it, is there any sound? Itís irrelevant. It doesnít matter, you
know. Who cares? Ö If thereís no humans, the universe is not aware
of itself. So it doesnít matter that it exists. So, do we matter?
Youíre darn right. We matter a lot! Ö Are you supposed to know how
powerful a Being you are? You, you, youíre god!
And that, thatís who
you are. And, and, and do you realize that? No, we donít realize
that. And this fellow who was channeling last night [Daryl Anka
channeling Bashar], actually he made a lot of sense and it scared
the heck out of me! [audience laughter]
PC: But, yeah, thatís basically Ö I mean thatís, thatís what Ö. This
is not me. This is Edgar Cayce speaking, you know. And, and if you
read on him, I think he has one of the best analogies of what
existence is, in one of his books, than anything there is. Basically
thereís more pins Ö. Thereís more, atoms on a pinhead than there are
grains of sand in the world. Thereís a huge number.
[spelling uncertain] is a one inch letter around the circumference
of the Earth, squared. Square that! Thatís a big number, you know.
Now, thereís something more than there Ö even of that, and thatís
time. Time is infinite. But, thereís only so many souls. You create
so many souls. So, what happens as those souls reincarnate? Each one
has the chance to play number uno.
Q: Ö I think whatís happening to us is, is that, we that have
created the mess, if you look at it on a timeline, we who have
created this mess, we have all had, Ö. participated in the creation
of the problems that we have today, but in prior lives Ė if you want
to do it out Ė and so weíre back now, to correct the imbalance so
that can mo- Ö all move forward, both ourselves here and the
off-world folks because weíre not separate from themÖ.
weíre executing a plan Ö. Weíre executing a plan in which people
have been imbedded all throughout society and theyíve been nourished
as, as in- Ö from, from childhood, from birth to death to take on
certain roles, and, within this overall plan. And thatís whatís
happening to you and I and whatever, is we integrate ourselves into
PC: My father, he made me really angry a lot of times because he had
all these corporations that just, you know, that he funded and such.
And I said, ďWhy do I have to work as a grease monkey? Why canít I
go to work for Northrup? Why canít I go to work here, Dad?" Because
he never let me fit into the norm. He didnít want me in anything
that Ö. I didnít even finish high school. He didnít want me educated
by the system. And he wanted me to stay out of the system because he
knew I had, he knew I had certain gifts, and he didnít want these
contaminated. Now, children have imaginations. Uh, those arenít
imaginations, those are gifts, and they get contaminated from within
So, youíre right. We, weíre told to think within the box. And we do
think within the box. And our system of schooling needs changed, and
educated. Iím not saying we need, what is it, Harry Potter. We donít
need Ö. By the way, I was born on Halloween, and my sister was born
on Halloween six years later. And uh, boy, did that mess me up as a
kid, let me tell you! And then my dad would show me the two Xís in
my hand and he said Ö you know.
PC: But it did teach me to use this [indicating the brain]. And, if
you use this and you exercise it and you Ö. But, you know, donít go
crazy on it! Donít, donít start thinking that ETís going to come
here and save us because I donít believe he is. And my fatherís
exact words were, and I hate to say this, but Iím just going to say
it the way he said, ďWeíre too rotten to save!Ē Thatís the way he
Ö. Hereís a man that never said a cuss word, never laid a hand on
me, I mean, he was too good for his own good, but yet he, he sees
dead people in ways and such like that, and, and had tremendous
mental abilities and such. And yet, he sees Ö. Of course maybe
thatís because he was a, a colonel in the military and he saw the
negative side of it, you know. I hope he was wrong. But he also died
under a lot of adversity. When my father passed away we were being
sued by the book, we got no money from the book. It was all
And, and it was a really a very bad time. Ö. When Iíd hear
my dad say that, I considered the times that he said it. I donít
think he really meant it. And how can you when he loved my 3 boys,
you know, and Iím sure he would want the best for them. And thatís
why the book was written, by the way. It even says that in
He felt that young people could handle it,
Iíve got to tell you, real quick, about something. He would go into
the Pentagon. And he says there was a room that they would go into,
like a jail cell, and, he says, you werenít allowed to take anything
into the room. No papers, no pencils, nothing to record anything
whatsoever. And you go in there, and you come out, and whatever
question you asked would be answered, and youíd come out with that
And I asked him, ďWas that ET in there?Ē He never answered
me. He would never say a word. I guess it was classified, so, you
know, a military man would not say anything. I thought it was ET in
there. So, I just brought that up real quick to let you know that
maybe there was one in the Pentagon. I donít know.
Voice in audience: True!
PC: You think so?
Voice in audience: Iím hearing them saying that.
PC: You hear them say that? Yeah. Well, he talked about it quite
often. He talked about a lot of stuff that, that, uh, is not in the
books. And what I hope to do is modify this book [Dawn of New Age] a
little bit. Maybe a section in the back, that Iím speaking of now,
of our conversations when I used to sit on the floorÖ.
Q: OK. Uh. You had said that you actually connect into the planes
and the computers and that theyíre pretty much alive.
PC: Oh, yes.
Q: What do you do with a car that just keeps breaking? [audience
laughter] I mean, you know, I really am serious about this because
PC: Who owned it before you?
Q: An x-boyfriend [laughing].
PC: Well, there you go! [audience laughter] Get a new car!
Q: Well, Iím selling it for himÖ. and it keeps breaking.
PC: Give it back to him!
Q: Heís not here on the island Ö. But, Iím just curious.Ö How you
can connect with them [mechanical devices] to find out how to
release some of that old energy, or whatever?
PC: Well, I worked for a company called Larry Smith Electronics and
I finally quit because I was so frustrated because every time I
would go in to fix an autopilot, and Iíd say, ďOK, Iím going to put
the 183IC in itĒ, and Iíd plug it in that the thing would work.
Always the same IC, you know, and the odds are a million-to-one that
itís not the same IC each time. So Iíd say, ďHow do I write this
up?Ē So, I would write it up.
Do I have that ability? Yeah. I donít know where it comes from, you
know. It comes from my father. He did not have that ability. H- his
was different, you know, with photographic memory and such. But,
yes, I had that ability. So I donít know if you can do that, uh, if
you learn to do that, you know. So, itís not something Ö.
Q: Well, Iím very intuitive, but Iím having the hardest time with
this car Ö.
PC: Well, love it! Itís hard for a woman to love a car. I guess they
can. Polish it! Iím serious!
Q: I did! I did polish it.
PC: OK. I donít know. Iím not saying that every machine is alive.
Iím just saying that there are people that have connections with
machinery. And my connections are not with every machine. But when I
build an airplane, itís definitely connected there. I donít want to
turn it over to the owner. And, when I do turn it over to the owner,
he better treat it nice! We, weíve taken many of our planes and
weíve resold, you know. And, I still keep in touch with them.
Theyíre my children. Yes, Paula.
Paula [Harris]: OK, what I wanted to say was, we really loved your
dad, in Italy, as you very well know. And before he died he said
that he would Ö to leave a chair empty in the front row, uh, because
he would always be present whenever we talked about disclosure --
and Iím going to call it disclosure because thatís a common term.
And, and Iím glad you mentioned the reason why, because everybody
thought he had different reasons, and that its for someone to come
close like that. He, he said it was for your boys and for the
grandchildren to know Ö and that they could handle it. What advise
would you give to, to us, especially to us journalists who keep
working on supporting your dadís testimony, by bringing forth other
people to support his testimony, because obviously Colonel Corsoís
testimony was not enough?
PC: Well, thatís true. Itís a collective effort, which youíre doing
a very good job of, Paola. Youíre one of the only, you might say,
people in this field that Iíve ever met - Iím sure thereís others
but I donít every one - but youíre one of the ones that report, and
without an opinion. And I think thatís very good because if we keep
that up we canít get lost in crazy stuff.
And thatís up to each and
every person here to, to weed out the crazy stuff, because if you
do, youíre going to go out the branch of that tree, and youíre going
to have to come back, and itís going to take too many years. We
donít have that many years to go out on this crazy stuff. But how to
do we keep my Ö. I guess the essence of the question is, is, how do
we keep my dadís legacy alive, and, and, what do we do to Ö.
Paula: And how do we find the other people to come forth and support
what he Ö. Obviously he, there were other people around him. He
wasnít the only one.
PC: Well, you have a gentleman sitting right there [Paul Hellyer -
pictured with Phil Corso].
Paula: Yes. I know.
PC: And, and, and I, you know, itís magnificent, because that age
there, they, you know, Ö and Iím getting there, you know. We have to
do something. Timeís running out, and itís running out quick! And
how do you get them to come forward? You get them to come forward
maybe with this book, you know [Dawn of a New Age]. Now Iíll tell
you right now Ė my wifeís going to whip me with this one! I donít
need the money from this book. Iíll give it all away. Iím just doing
this for everyone. I hope it can bring Ö. [moderator reminding Phil
Corso of the time]
PC: Five minutes. OK . I hope it can bring some peace to the world.
Steven Greer, heís looking a new world - itís right in
here [Dawn of a New Age]. The technology thatís in here, if we could
only apply it. And I mean, nuke plants that are as big as that table
that will run for 5 years unmanned in Alaska, and produce water thru
reverse osmosis, for 5 years without being touched.
Now, we hear
about the atomic bomb. Dad says in here, we are lost in the nuclear
age, because thereís good nuclear stuff. He would go into rooms, he
speaks about, and eat meat thatís 5 years old! He and General
Trudeau. And thereís people starving in the world because of no
refrigeration?! Come on! In Switzerland thereís light bulbs that
will glow for the next 50,000 years! And theyíre bright enough to
read by, and go by, and theyíre not harmful. But yet theyíre,
theyíre treating them.
So, so what has happened to us?! Because we have an atomic bomb
weíre going to kill all nuke away? You donít know. He says itís
wrong. We have it right here! Steven Greer just doesnít know where
to look, and I already told him that. Look here [Dawn of a New Age],
Q: What you do is you connect innately with the molecules of the
airplanes. You can talk to them. I talk to my car all the time,
beloved molecules of my car. I donít talk to the car. I talk to the
ďBeloved molecules, I thank you. I am grateful for
you traveling with me. I clear you of everything that does not need
to be in this car. Thank you, molecules.Ē
And you can connect to any
computer in this way. Start talking to your equipment. You too!
[laughing] Thank you.
PC: Well, machinery is, is wonderful, but, you know, it has a
lifetime too, and weíre going to replace it with new machinery, and
later technology. And this is going to keep happening. So we reach a
point pretty soon that the technology is probably as smart as us.
Thatís one thing Dad says in the book, too. When he and General
Trudeau released the first chip, they also said that they were
afraid because they didnít know where that was going, where that was
going to take us Ė or take over us. And they, they were smart enough
at that time, before they knew really its, its limitations of what
it possibly could do. So yeah, maybe evolution is, is a machine. Who
knows. Yes, míam.
Q: Well, on that note I was wondering if, uh, you or your father or
anyone you know of, has any, um, experience of anyone traveling here
without a machine? And, are any of your technologies being developed
for us to travel, without our bodies, without machinery?
PC: I donít think so. But, but I donít know. That, thatís a tough
one. Sure. You know, you, you want to travel to the end of
existence? You can do that in your minds instantaneously, you know,
because you can visualize what it looks like. Thereís nothing faster
than thought. But I donít think that we know how to use it yet, and
harness it properly. Will it ever happen? Maybe.
fiction now, you know. But, Dad also speaks in the book - almost
every question asked tonight is in the book. And he also speaks of
mental Ö certain frequencies, that he learned, and these frequencies
are in the book. He talks about them. And he talks about interfacing
with machinery. And itís been done for a long time, because the EBE
did it. The Rowell craft was an interfaced machine. Ö
When Dad was dying, he came back with a gallon of blood in his
stomach, on an airplane Ö. Doctors said he [will] be dead by the
next morning. In walked Dr. Roe [spelling uncertain] Ė Iíll say his
name now Ė and he had a little machine. And the little machine
opened up the chest Ė and there were 2 other or 3 other doctors
involved and they said he would be dead by the morning.
up his chest, put the little machine in there, and thereís no
bleeding. And the machine, Dad asked for the machine, through Dr.
Roe. Pretty interesting, you know. I have my ideas of what the
machine is and where it came from. But the good doctor down in Palm
Beach has the machine still today. If you go to him, heíll probably
deny itÖ. Who knows. He said he got it in Russia. He picked it up in
a shop in Russia. [audience laughter]
PC: But heís also quick Ö. Dr. Roe, real quick, he quit his practice
to do cloning that was led by my dad Ö Yes?
Q: Hi. I just wanted toÖ engage you a little bit about Ė I thought I
heard your comment that we would not be able to go to the future,
um, that weíre not able to go to the past, but in
David Bohmís Implicate-Explicate Order, weíre infolding and unfolding all the
time, I mean, my understanding is, 14 times a second.
So, if itís
possible with our mind, through remote mind, all I think we really
need is knowledge. And through that knowledge, if we have ideas of
coordinates, ideas of potentials, ideas of realities, that, would it
not be possible, with everything self-contained, as with this
womanís con-, or idea about, you know, we donít need external
technology. I mean, from what you understand, would, could you see
your way to that potential?
PC: Well, first of all, why do you want to do that, you see? Again,
benevolent. You, you have no business going back to the past, or me
or anybody like that, or going to the future, unless you have a
purpose. Now thatís what time travel is. You cannot time travel
without a benevolent purpose.
Q: But what about discovery? Just discovery? For the adventure?
PC: No, no. No, you canít screw up the universe for discovery. No.
Iím sorry. You see, I told you that when I was at the table with
these religious Ö. Thatís what the Air Force is bewildered with now.
They thought they were hot shots, and were going to time travel all
over the place. No. Theyíre bewildered. They have no purpose for it.
Whatís the purpose? To go back and take care of a country that, uh,
you know, I mean, come on Ö to start a war? Thatís not a benevolent
purpose. So you have to have a reason for it. Youíre going to
correct something that was wrong back then? Possibly. I donít know,
you know. But I do know this, and Dad told me, ďThe purpose has to
So, you know, there, there Ö. If, if a meteor hits tomorrow, our
planet, and destroys it, we would certainly have a reason to leave,
wouldnít we? Thatís a benevolent reason. So that might be possible,
during a time like that Ė just a quick example. [moderator
PC: Last one. Yes, sir.
Q: Yes, Phil. My question is, the material in the book, that youíre
going to have published [Dawn of a New Age], will it be the complete
material, not, unedited Ė all of the material that he has?
PC: Yes. This book right now is in my dadís Ö well, some of it is
typed, but most of it is in his original handwriting. His
handwriting looks like a computer handwriting. Itís printing. And
itís in his original. And thatís the way we want to do it, unedited.
If I do anything, it will be in the back of the book, and it will
say, big dummy me is saying these things, you know, not my father.
So, yes, weíre going to leave this alone. And, and ,uh, you know,
uh, I donít know if its ever been printed that way before, but maybe
weíll photograph it just like it is. I think each one of you will
probably enjoy reading it just the way it sits.
I was going to print up a chart, back here Ė an intelligence
officerís chart on the EBE, and um, and hand it out to you all. If
we can find a printer, Iíll do it tomorrow. And it just shows the
logic of why the EBE can travel in space and why we canít. and it
goes through a chart of what we have and what they have, you know Ė
a comparison chart. Iíll see if I can get it printed up for you guys
and hand it out tomorrow.
Q: Oh, thatíd be great. [audience applauds]
AW [Angelika Whitecliff]: We want you to stay here a minute and talk
about your meteorite.
AW: Weíre actually not quite done yet with Phil, because Phil has
made one other exceptional contribution to our conference. And you
might have been wondering why we brought in a table over here on the
stage, and what we have sitting in that glass case. Well, it is an
extraterrestrial object. It is a meteorite, and itís something very,
very special. Uh, the energies that it brings to this conference
gives all of us an opportunity to experience extraterrestrial, right
here, right now.
And so, this is a legacy, really, that, that, uh,
Phil has offered to us, for this conference, and to be present for
future conferences here in Hawaii, to offer everyone the opportunity
to experience extraterrestrial first-hand. And so, maybe, uh, Phil
could tell us a little bit more about this meteorite, and uh, the
significance of it.
PC: It would be a pleasure. Yes. Well, first of all, it began very
negative. It came from demand, from the White House, who told me to
shut up, as a gift. [laughter]. So, weíre going to turn that around.
OK? Weíre going to make it very positive. The unit itself, about 3
months ago, my middle youngest son, Andrew Ė and heís mentioned in
the book too. Isnít that weird tonight? Andrew wanted it.
lecture ends and the viewing of the meteorite begins.]