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			by 
			
			Grant CameronFrom a paper presented in at
 
			the
			
			Crashed Retrieval ConferenceLas Vegas November 16, 2003
 
			from
			
			PresidentialUFO Website
 
			Before considering the available 
			evidence about crashed saucer material and the White House, it is 
			important to view why the role of the president is so important.
 It has long been rumored that the real hard evidence such as crash 
			retrieval materials are in the hands of the military. The president 
			is the civilian head of the military, and thus should be receiving 
			on his desk the best material that has been gathered by the 
			military.
 
 If the critical crash material is not held by the military, but by 
			some agency of the government such as the National Security Agency 
			or CIA, the president should still receive the best available 
			material, as he is the head of the Executive branch that employs 
			most employees of the government.
 
 Most importantly, it is important to view the role of the president 
			in any review of crashed saucer evidence, because the president is 
			the ultimate authority. Only when the president stands up and says, 
			"Some UFOs are not of this world" will the cover-up end. The 
			president’s word is final and cannot be overruled. It is therefore 
			important to see what he knows on the subject, or at least what 
			statements or actions he has taken.
 
 Many believe that once elected, the president is suddenly spoken to 
			by God and suddenly knows everything there is about the ultimate UFO 
			evidence such as crashes. This is quite far from the truth. Once 
			sworn in a president is dependant on cabinet officers to present to 
			him any information he might obtain. All the information from the 
			past administration has been removed and the filing cabinets are 
			empty.
 
 An example is President Clinton, who at the time of his 1993 
			inauguration, was faced with 17,000 classified documents a day being 
			written within the U.S. government. People who think he has time to 
			read these documents, and maintain a 16-hour grueling daily schedule 
			of meetings, briefing, photos, state dinners, and in Bill Clinton’s 
			case dating interns, are mislead.
 
 The president’s knowledge comes from short briefings he gets from 
			subordinates about things they think are important for him to know. 
			The president’s knowledge is therefore dependent on the ability of 
			those below him to gather up the facts for him.
 
 With this as background, the following are some of the stories that 
			look at what the president might have known about the subject of 
			crashed saucers. These few examples I have chosen, are the result of 
			attempts to track down rumored stories, and investigate them with 
			interviews and material from the various presidential libraries.
 
 The following presidential stories show at times the president 
			knows, and at time doesn’t know. Summing it all up I would say that 
			the president is told, but that the level of knowledge is not as 
			great as the stories that have been leaked into the UFO community by 
			U.S. intelligence. The aliens are still in control.
 
 I think the evidence shows that the president knows the reality of 
			the phenomena, but realizes that the government has very little 
			control over the situation, especially when it comes to the 
			phenomena of abductions and cattle mutilations. It is this ignorance 
			and lack of control, which has led to a continued cover-up, while 
			officials scramble to get better information about how to deal with 
			these phenomena.
 
 Our knowledge of the White House role and knowledge has been limited 
			by two factors,
 
				
			 
			Franklin D. 
			Roosevelt
 The only story that I will deal with regarding FDR is a story that 
			is being worked on by CUFOS and the Ohio MUFON people. 
			It involves the longest servicing State Secretary in US history 
			Cordell Hull. Hull won the Nobel Peace Prize for the work he
  did 
			towards the creation of the United Nations. 
 He is one of three Nobel Peace Prize winners who have been involved 
			in UFOs. The other two are Jimmy Carter, and former Canadian 
			Prime Minister Lester Pearson.
 
 Hull’s story is this. The daughter of his cousin, Reverend 
			Turner Hamilton Holt, came forward a few years back to tell a 
			story of an incident that had occurred in Washington DC in 1939. 
			According to what the Reverend told the family his cousin Cordell 
			Hull had taken him to the sub-basement of the Capitol building 
			during a visit to Washington. There he viewed,
 
				
					
						
						1) Four large glass 
						jars holding 4 creatures  
						2) A wrecked round 
						craft of some kind nearby 
			No other supporting evidence is yet 
			available, but MUFON Ohio is still working on it.
 
			Harry S 
			Truman
 
 Harry Truman was, as everyone knows was the president who 
			held the White House at the time of the Roswell crash. 
			Despite the importance of the crash in UFO lore there is very little 
			evidence to be found in White House records to show that
  Truman had 
			any documented involvement in the handling of the crash. 
 A display at the Roswell Museum has a display showing a phone call 
			and a meeting with General Hoyt Vandenberg, who is generally 
			acknowledged to be a key player in the Roswell event. The call and 
			meeting were supposed to have occurred on July 9th, the 
			day after the Roswell press release on the crash. According to White 
			House records, however, neither occurred. Vandenburg and other 
			possible key Roswell players did meet on July 10th, but 
			it was only for 10 minutes and then only for the signing of an Air 
			Force Day proclamation.
 
 The following were present:
 
				
					
						
						
						Honorable W. Stuart 
						Symington, Assistant Secretary of War 
						
						Lt. General Hoyt S. 
						Vandenberg, Acting Deputy Commander
						
						Army Air Forces Major 
						General Lauris Norstad 
						
						General James H. Doolittle 
			The White House records, however, might 
			not be all that inclusive. Edwin Easley, for example, is 
			shown in White House records to have never had contact with Truman. 
			In direct contradiction to this is a statement by Easley’s daughter 
			who stated her father had promised not to talk after making a 
			promise to the president.
 General Roger Ramey is another example of possibly incomplete White 
			House records. White House records show that he never had contact 
			with the president, and yet George Filer of "Filer’s Files", stated 
			that Mrs. Ramey had told him during an interview that she and her 
			husband had met Truman and his wife on more than one occasion, and 
			were in fact good friends.
 
 The oral history testimony of Robert Landry, the Air 
			Advisor to President Truman, may also help shed light on why 
			there is no crashed saucer material, or recorded contacts with 
			Roswell participants, in White House files.
 
 Landry told Truman oral historians that he briefed 
			Truman on UFOs orally every three months during his tenure (February 
			1948 – January 1953). He described himself as a go-between to the 
			CIA. As a side light to this, Landry undoubtedly told 
			Truman of the number of radar UFO sightings (described in a second 
			oral history interview) he had while stationed with the 8th 
			Army Air Force in Hawaii during World War 2.
 
 
			Dwight 
			D. Eisenhower
 
 As I said previously, the president only knows what is told to him 
			by those around him. He can be cut off from knowledge such as Harry 
			Truman was while vice-president under FDR. During his whole time as 
			vice-president he only met with the
  president twice, and was 
			therefore out of the loop on almost everything that was going on. 
 When Truman became president he decided that the next president 
			would not end up as president knowing nothing as he had. He set up a 
			series of briefing to be given to the president-elect that would 
			have him ready to govern when sworn in. This is a practice that 
			continues up to the present.
 
 Truman helped brief Eisenhower on many subjects he 
			would need to govern. One of those briefings is the rumored UFO 
			briefing given to Ike in November 1952. This briefing has become 
			famous because of the
			
			MJ-12 document mailed to Jamie 
			Shandera in 1984. As my time is limited and others are talking 
			about this document I will not deal with it.
 
 I will say, however, that I have spent a lot of time in the past 
			couple months looking at the concept of "if president’s gets UFO 
			briefing and what they are told." I will discuss later other 
			examples which show the importance of such briefings.
 
 Now to perhaps the most well known of the presidential UFO stories. 
			This story is the visit of Eisenhower to Palm Springs in February 
			1954. It was during that visit that the press discovered Ike had 
			disappeared. Panic broke out and one reporter almost got a story on 
			the wire stating that Ike had died of a heart attack.
 
 Ike’s press secretary James Hagerty gained control of the 
			situation saying Ike was at the dentist after having broken a cap 
			eating chicken. Ike reappeared the next morning at church and all 
			was forgotten.
 
 All of the 1950s stories state that
			
			Ike had gone to nearby Edwards Air Force Base, 
			and there met with aliens who landed at the base. Ike met 
			with the aliens, heard their message, and thereby decided the world 
			was not ready for this type of information. The story further states 
			it was at this point Ike ordered the real cover-up to start.
 
 In the late 70s and early 80s, when dead aliens became the rage, the 
			story of Ike’s visit to Edwards turned into a visit to see dead 
			alien bodies. Although no 1950 story mentions dead aliens there is 
			actually some evidence to indicate that he may in fact have gone to 
			Edwards to see alien bodies.
 
 A month before Ike made his trip to Palm Springs, the APRO 
			Bulletin published a headline story which stated "A.F. Men 
			Examine UFO: Object Found Near California Oregon Border." 
			Prominent radio commentator Frank Edwards, who broke the 
			story, stated that the object had been moved to a "West Coast US 
			airfield."
 
 An interesting sidelight to this story is the fact that one of the 
			air force men reported to be going to the airfield to investigate 
			the object was none other than J. Allen Hynek.
 
 Finally, related to Eisenhower, is the testimony of Brigadier 
			General Steven Lovekin who stated that he had been shown 
			small UFO wreckage pieces, and that Ike was fully aware of the 
			facts. Lovekin had served with the White House Army Signal Corps. 
			In a conversation with me Lovekin stated that Eisenhower 
			knew what was going on and that Lovekin himself had witnessed 
			Eisenhower talking about UFOs while at Camp David.
 
 
			Lyndon 
			B. Johnson
 
 During a recent visit to the Lyndon Johnson library in Austin 
			Texas, I spent a week looking at the UFO connection to the 1965 
			power blackout in the northeast, and the role of the Johnson 
			White House in the crash of an object in Kecksburg,
  Pennsylvania. 
 Based on information supplied by Kecksburg expert Stan Gordon 
			and researcher Leslie Kean I was looking for information that 
			would support stories, which showed the involvement of such groups 
			as NASA (who have now agreed to turn over 3 dozen pages of 
			documents they have always claimed they don’t have) and the 
			Office of Emergency Planning at the crash site.
 
 My library research involved checking the president’s movements and 
			contacts between him and his top advisors with the information 
			Stan Gordon had collected related to the crash.
 
 At the time of Kecksburg crash President Johnson was 
			at his White House ranch in Austin, Texas. A careful review of the 
			evidence showed some interesting parallels to what Gordon had 
			discovered about groups reported at the crash scene. These included:
 
				
					
					
					James Webb, the head of
					NASA arrived at the ranch at 9:50 the morning after 
					the crash.
					
					All members of the Joint Chiefs 
					of Staff arrived the morning after the crash.
					
					The Governor of Pennsylvania 
					arrived at the ranch in afternoon. 
			On Sunday night, three days after the 
			crash Johnson arrived back at the White House. The next 
			afternoon, Johnson met off the record with Buford Ellington. 
			Ellington was the head of the Office of Emergency Planning, which is 
			inside the Executive Office of the President. This was one of the 
			groups that appeared to have been involved in the Kecksburg crash.
 One of the key people under Lionel Ellington was USAF Col. 
			J. Leo Bourassa. He headed up the "Special Facilities Division" 
			within the Office of Emergency Planning. He is the person mentioned 
			in
			
			the Blue Book file dealing with the 
			Kecksburg crash.
 
 While at the Johnson library I was looking for files on Bourassa 
			and on the "Special facilities Division" to see how it fit 
			into the Kecksburg crash. What I learned about Bourassa 
			while at the library is that he had also been heavily involved in 
			the 1965 blackout of New York City. In fact, he wrote a report to 
			Ellington detailing his findings. Bourassa’s findings hinted at the 
			possible role of UFOs in the blackout.
 
 From the November 23, 1965 Bourassa report we read,
 
				
				"The lack of specific information at 
				the time, plus the state of confusion that existed in the 
				Northeast U.S., the fact that sabotage, enemy action, and 
				unknown phenomena were all considered possibilities…" 
			It was not until I got home that I 
			figured out who J. Leo Bourassa was, and why this might be 
			significant to his involvement in the Kecksburg crash. It 
			turns out that Bourassa was the head of
			
			Mount Weather, the nuclear attack 
			proof bunker outside Washington D.C., where the president and top 
			government leaders are taken in case of nuclear attack. 
 In fact, on September 11 when the Trade Towers were hit, the 
			top 15 government leaders were rounded up by the secret service and 
			taken there, while Cheney directed things in the bunker 
			under the White House.
 
 Bourassa, who at Mount Weather had instant access to 
			the Joint Chiefs of Staff Command center, all the military services, 
			fire departments, NORAD, and other key agencies, was involved 
			in the Kecksburg recovery and may actually have been 
			directing the proper units to the site behind the scenes.
 
 Aerial photographs of Mount Weather show the presidential 
			heliport where the president is dropped off. The tower that directs 
			in the president’s flight is known as "bluegrass tower." In the 
			Kecksburg Blue Book file right after J. Leo Bourassa’s 
			name you will find (Code blue grass). Another connection to 
			the code "bluegrass" is a paranormal CIA project 
			started in 1955, which I haven’t confirmed yet.
 
 Another person who adds evidence for this role of Mount Weather 
			in UFOs was Brigadier-General Steven Lovekin who 
			testified for the Briefings held by CSETI for Congressmen and 
			others in April 1997. He stated,
 
				
				"I was fortunate enough to travel 
				around Washington DC area, and I was fortunate enough to speak 
				to one individual who was a government employee. He was not 
				military. I only knew him as Frank, and I first met him at 
				Mount Weather Virginia, Winchester, which is the place many 
				of you might know where the president in case of attack. He told 
				me at that time, the first time that I saw him, because he knew 
				I was interested in this subject matter, that this place also 
				had facilities to track these UFOs." 
			Finally, I should mention a final note 
			on the Special Facilities Division. In a 1996 story former 
			USAF physicist Robert Collins posted a chart and a letter to 
			the Internet following the release of "Independence Day."
			 
			 
			As a part of that posting, Collins 
			made the following interesting comment.  
				
				"The following has been uncovered 
				over the years of research. MJ-12 had a "cover" under 
				which it operated and that cover was reportedly 'The Office 
				of Emergency Preparedness, Special Facilities Division.'" 
			I followed up on this possible role of 
			the Special Facilities Division in the crash at Kecksburg 
			during a recent trip to the National Archives in Washington but was 
			unable to come up with a single piece of paper on the unit after 
			reviewing almost every box of files from the Office of Emergency 
			Planning.
 
			Richard 
			Nixon
 
 The only Nixon story I wish to deal with in this presentation 
			is the story about President Nixon giving Jackie Gleason
  access to dead alien bodies. Three separate people claim to 
			have been told the story by Nixon. (Bill Knell, 
			Larry Warren and Beverly Gleason) 
 The key witness of the three was Beverly Gleason, the second 
			wife of the comedy superstar. We have proof that she wrote a version 
			of the story for the National Enquirer in 1983 four years before 
			Gleason’s death. It was a story that Beverly said made Jackie very 
			angry.
 
 The gist of the story is that Gleason was friends with Nixon. He 
			lived in Miami, Florida near Nixon’s southern White House at Key 
			Biscayne. Gleason saw the bodies late one night at 
			Homestead Air Force Base in 1973, which was close to both men’s 
			homes. It was also the base where Nixon flew in on his 92 
			trips to the southern White House.
 
 There is very little supporting evidence other than what Beverly 
			Gleason and the other two witnesses claimed Gleason told them 
			about the event. In only the last few months Mrs. Gleason has 
			reconfirmed the story she told so many years ago as being true.
 
 
			Gerald 
			Ford
 
 Gerald Ford as most people know was involved in the big flap 
			of UFO sightings in Michigan in the mid-sixties. He helped to
  initiate a congressional look at the UFO problem. 
 The only things I wish to bring up about Ford is to play a 
			clip which shows how quickly and dramatically opinions can change 
			once a person enters the White House. Listen to him talk about UFOs 
			before he became president. From the March 26, 1966 "Face The 
			Nation" show the following question and answer.
 
				
				Q: Mr. Ford, what about 
				flying saucers? We’ve had some in Michigan in the past week. Do 
				you really believe in flying saucers – you’ve called for a 
				congressional investigation?
 Ford: Dave, we’ve had several incidents in Michigan in 
				the last week – incidents that many reliable good citizens felt 
				were sufficient to justify some action by our government and not 
				the kind of flippant answer given by the Air Force where the 
				passed it off as some "swamp gas."
 
			And in addition there are other 
			incidents that happen from time to time – reported by people who I 
			think are basically fully sincere and honest. It seems to me that 
			this mystery which has been around the country with all these 
			various sightings does require that the congress take a good look at 
			it. They should bring up these witnesses from the Air Force 
			and NASA – have them interrogated by the members of a House 
			of Senate committee. Let them put their records on the line, and let 
			the people who have seen these unidentified flying objects come and 
			testify. I think the American people would be more assured that 
			there were, or were not, if an effective public hearing were held."
 Ford did nothing on the UFO front once he became 
			president or after. It naturally leads to the question of whether 
			there is a big briefing given which changes all presidents’ minds 
			about releasing confirming evidence of UFOs.
 
 
			Jimmy 
			Carter
 
 It has always been questioned whether Jimmy Carter was told 
			much about evidence such as crashed saucers because he had run his 
			campaign against the Washington insiders. He also got into trouble a 
			couple of times with the U.S. military such
  as when he cut the 
			defense budget, cancelled the B-1 bomber, leaked the stealth fighter 
			secret. 
 The evidence now seems to indicate Carter was told and may 
			actually have been told about the crashed saucers.
 
 Now, as background for those of you who did not know Jimmy Carter 
			had seen a UFO, here is his version of the event. He has 
			spoken of this sighting more times than he lusted after women.
 
				
				"There were about 20 of us standing 
				outside of a little restaurant, I believe, or high school lunch 
				room and a kind of green light appeared in the western sky. This 
				was right after sundown. It got brighter and brighter, and 
				eventually it disappeared. It didn’t have a solid substance to 
				it. It was just a very peculiar looking light. None of us could 
				understand what it was. I never made fun of other people who 
				have seen things of that kind…" 
			This admission of a sighting, and a 
			promise Carter made during the campaign to release all UFO 
			information, led to a deluge of 9,000 UFO letters into the White 
			House on UFOs. Here is a picture from within the Carter archives 
			showing the letters.
 What most people don’t know about the Carter promise is that there 
			was an exception, which I believe relates directly to the crashed 
			saucer subject being discussed here today. Carter made an exception 
			saying he would not release UFO records with national security 
			implications. Here is what he said,
 
				
				"I don’t believe in keeping 
				information like that secret, but there may be some aspects of 
				the UFO information, with which I am not familiar which might be 
				related to some secret experiments that we were doing that 
				involve national security – a new weapons system. I surely 
				wouldn’t release that, but if it was something removed from our 
				national security, then I as president would go ahead and 
				release it. I see nothing wrong with that." 
			In a related story, we have the story 
			of the George Bush UFO briefing of President-elect Carter. 
			According to Marcia Smith, a researcher at the Library of 
			Congress, when Carter asked for the files, then CIA 
			Director Bush said Carter did not have the need to know - 
			that being president was not sufficient "need to know." He would 
			have to go to Congress and get the requested UFO documents 
			declassified. The incident and the constant rumors about George 
			H.W. Bush’s involvement in UFOs led me to make Bush a 
			part of my "UFO Most Wanted" deck. 
			 
			An even more important story comes from 
			prominent civil rights attorney Daniel Sheehan. He was called 
			in by Marcia Smith as a consultant on two studies she was preparing 
			for President Jimmy Carter. One study was on UFOs, and the 
			second was on extraterrestrial intelligence. Sheehan is famous for 
			his legal work on the Pentagon papers, the Karen Silkwood case, 
			Iran-Contra, and several other important cases.
 Sheehan’s story is that he had gained access to the classified 
			Blue Book files, through the efforts of Marcia Smith. In 
			a vault in the basement of the Madison Building in Washington, D.C., 
			Sheehan found pictures of a crashed flying saucer. This is 
			information that he reported back to Smith. Smith, in turn, would 
			have undoubtedly have related this discovery to the president in her 
			study. Here is Sheehan’s account
 
				
				"Back in 1977 when I was asked to 
				participate as a special consultant to the Library of Congress 
				Research Group analysis for President Carter, I was given access 
				to
				
				The Project Blue Book files – 
				the classified sections of them in preparation for a seminar I 
				was asked to present to the top 50 scientists at the Jet 
				Propulsion Laboratory in California in the SETI program. 
				(on the religious implications of extraterrestrial contact) In 
				that context I was allowed to review the classified second of 
				the Blue Book project.    
				In that section I came across 
				absolutely clear pictures, photographs of a UFO that was on the 
				ground. It had apparently crashed and it was stuck in the side 
				of an embankment. There was snow all around in the photograph, 
				and there were United States Air Force personnel in the 
				photograph measuring this particular craft. There were 
				photographs of them. You could see in a number of these 
				photographs. There were actually close up photos of different 
				perspectives of the vehicle. They actually had insignia on the 
				side of the vehicle. They had taken close-up pictures of these.
				   
				So when I saw this in the context 
				that I had been allowed in this room downstairs in the new 
				building of the Library of Congress. It hadn’t even been opened 
				yet. This was a new building. They had a big special room 
				downstairs. There were Air Force guards at the door. When I 
				actually saw these photographs in the files, I said,  
					
					"Well now that I have seen this, 
					and I know that the United States Air Force has these 
					photographs – that they’ve got this vehicle. They’ve 
					obviously got it. Here are the photographs."  
			Further evidence that Carter was 
			briefed and told of UFOs and crashed saucers come from a leaked 
			document that was put out by Bill Moore in the late 1980s. It 
			purports to be notes related to a UFO briefing given to Carter on 
			June 14, 1977. As this is a very complex issue, and this is a very 
			short lecture I will leave out discussion of it. It is one of a 
			series of UFO briefing rumors I am working on.
 The most important evidence that Jimmy Carter may have been 
			told of crashed saucers, and chose not to release it, comes from a 
			1995 interview with Shirley MacLaine on the Larry King 
			show. In a call-in question, Florida UFO researcher 
			
			Art 
			Greenfield asked about a claim that was made a couple weeks 
			before by actor Nicholas Cage. In that claim Shirley MacLaine 
			had told him that Jimmy Carter had been shown a crashed saucer and 
			bodies. Here is the question and Shirley MacLaine’s reply. Keep in 
			mind that Nicholas Cage stands by his claim.
 
				
				Larry King: "Cocoa Florida 
				with Shirley MacLaine, hello.
 Art Greenfield: "Hello, Good evening Larry and Shirley, 
				About two weeks ago, Nicholas Cage was on the Letterman Show and 
				said Shirley had told him that President Carter had told her he 
				had seen recovered alien spacecraft and aliens in a hanger. Can 
				you tell me exactly what President Carter said?"
 
 Shirley MacLaine: "He didn't tell me that, but he told me 
				many times that when I first wrote "Out On A Limb" that he would 
				support me, that it was true, that there were crafts, that he 
				believed there were occupants, why should we be the only people 
				in the universe. He wanted to shine the sunshine laws on 
				intelligence, to expose it, to see how the people would react, 
				but he didn't and wouldn't and couldn't as he explained to me."
 
			Ronald 
			Reagan
 
 Ronald Reagan was a president who was interested in the 
			paranormal. Any number of stories could be told about his comments 
			on the White House ghost, or the fact that he claimed his father 
			spoke to him during his funeral. The Reagan
  White House actually had 
			people hired to keep Reagan away from school children asking 
			questions after speeches because, as Marlin Fitzwater said, 
			"The goddamnest things would come out of his mouth." Reagan had two 
			UFO sightings. 
 There are a couple quick crashed saucer related stories that I would 
			like to share. The first centers on the visit of Steven Spielberg to 
			the White House in June 1982 to screen ET – The Extraterrestrial 
			to Reagan and 36 other people.
 
 The story of ET is actually the fictionalized version of the live 
			alien story that has been circulated by U.S. intelligence inside the 
			UFO community many times over the last 55 years. As the story goes a 
			live alien was recovered from a crash in the late 1940s, and it died 
			in captivity in 1952.
 
 Reagan sat beside Spielberg during the screening. 
			According to the story that Spielberg told to film producer Jamie 
			Shandera near the end of the screening Reagan leaned over to 
			Spielberg and stated, "I bet there aren’t six people in this whole 
			room who know how true this all is." Spielberg was shocked by the 
			statement but was unable to get future details from the president as 
			Reagan left for bed as soon as it was over.
 
 A couple months after seeing ET – The Extraterrestrial - 
			President Reagan made an appearance at the old Roswell Army 
			Air Base. There in front of the west hanger where the bodies and 
			craft pasts from the Roswell crash were rumored to have been held 
			for a short period before being shipped to WPAFB, Reagan made 
			a campaign speech for Senator Harrison Schmitt then running 
			for re-election. In case you are wondering, Reagan did mention ET 
			in the speech.
 
 As a side note to this Vice President Dick Cheney also showed 
			up at the Roswell base to make a speech in 1992. Cheney has 
			long been rumored to be an inside player on the critical information 
			such as crashed saucers, so I have put him in my "UFO Most 
			Wanted" deck as the King of Clubs.
 
			 
			Another Reagan story is the 
			involvement and knowledge of Frank Carlucci, a key person in 
			the military industrial complex, and Reagan’s former national 
			security advisor. One of
			
			Steve Greer’s disclosure witnesses 
			tells of Carlucci being a key figure in a Top Secret air 
			show at Norton Air Force Base in 1988, where an alien 
			reproduction vehicle was shown off. 
 Carlucci is also in my "UFO Most Wanted" deck, holding one 
			of the highest cards.
 
			 
			Finally on Reagan, let me quickly 
			discuss the role of your present Secretary of State Colin Powell. 
			Powell was Reagan’s last National Security advisor. He told 
			presidential historian Lou Cannon that one of his roles in 
			the Reagan White House was to keep the alien references out of 
			Reagan’s speeches. He stated he worked hard to keep the alien 
			invasion remarks out lest people think there actually was an alien 
			invasion.
 Powell stated that whenever Reagan brought up 
			aliens in meetings, he would roll his keys and whisper to his 
			colleagues "Here comes the little green men again."
 
 Powell stated further that the concept of Star Wars was an 
			idea that Reagan got from the 1951 movie "The Day the Earth Stood 
			Still." Now billions are being spent on the idea.
 
 
			Bill 
			Clinton
 
 Clinton, like Jimmy Carter, had problems with the military. 
			He, like Jimmy Carter, had also run as a Washington outsider
  against 
			the Washington insiders. He referred to them as the "F***king 
			Washington crowd" 
 He should, therefore, not have been surprised when the Washington 
			insiders, who told the UFO secrets, chose not to play ball with 
			Clinton.
 
 
			Clinton did many things, which upset the military such 
			appearing to dodge the Vietnam War, and making a promise to put gays 
			in the military.
 
 It was these kind of things that have led to the idea that 
			Clinton may have been cut out of the UFO situation. One 
			of the stories that has been told to support this idea is a story 
			told by Dr. Steven Greer about the late White House reporter
			Sarah McClendon, and her question to Clinton about UFOs. Here 
			is what Greer said on the Art Bell show.
 
				
				"You know Bill Clinton leaned 
				over and told Sarah McClendon, who hosted us at the 
				National Press Club on May 9th – this is a story I 
				haven’t told, and I’m going to tell you now. She told me this. 
				Bill Clinton leaned over to her and said, because she brought up 
				this issue to Bill Clinton saying, "Why don’t you do something 
				about what Dr. Greer and this group are trying to do?" He bent 
				over and he said, "Sarah, there’s a secret government within 
				the government, and I don’t control it." 
			What I wish to discuss today about the 
			Clinton presidency is the Clinton connection to the Roswell story. 
			The Clinton Roswell crash story started just after Clinton entered 
			the White House in 1993. Billionaire Laurance Rockefeller had 
			seen a documentary on Roswell. He was amazed by what he saw. He 
			decided it was time to go to the president and get him to 
			declassify all UFO files, despite warnings from researchers such 
			as Bud Hopkins who were telling him this is not how it 
			worked.
 Rockefeller’s presidential effort was cut of at the pass by 
			Bill Clinton’s science advisor Dr. Jack Gibbons, a self 
			acclaimed UFO skeptic. Gibbons handled Rockefeller’s questions and 
			concerns related to declassifying the UFO files from 1993 to 1996.
 
 Gibbons told Rockefeller that the request to 
			declassify all UFO files would be impossible if the cover-up was as 
			widespread as Rockefeller was claiming. Gibbons proposed taking one 
			case and trying to get it declassified. They would then have a 
			pattern to follow.
 
 Rockefeller thought about it, and said that this one case idea would 
			be fine. He was choosing the Roswell case. Thus began a move 
			to get the facts on Roswell. The USAF started their study on 
			what really happened in 1947.
 
 Bill and Hillary Clinton are most well known for their 
			interest in UFOs, and their efforts to get to the bottom of the 
			Roswell crash. Looking back at the 1,000 pages of UFO material that 
			was released to me by the Clinton White House Office of Science and 
			Technology Policy, it appears that Hillary may have been 
			dealing with the UFO issue for the president.
 
 The OSTP files reveal that much of the Rockefeller effort to 
			declassify the Roswell case was being passed through Hillary 
			Clinton’s office in the West Wing of the White House.
 
 In a November 1, 1995 letter from Rockefeller’s lawyer Henry 
			Diamond to Dr. Gibbons, Diamond discussed a draft letter 
			to the president on UFO disclosure that he felt it was now time for 
			the president to see. Further Diamond talked about how Mrs. Clinton 
			and her staff had been helping Laurance Rockefeller to edit the UFO 
			letter to the president.
 
			 
			Laurance Rockefeller, 
			head of the UFO Disclosure Initiative to Clinton White House 
			walks with rumored 
			UFO Insider Dick Cheney. 
			  
			In a second letter written by 
			Laurance Rockefeller to Dr. Gibbons, Rockefeller stated,
			 
				
				"You indicated that you will keep 
				the First Lady’s office informed and we shall as well." 
			As I have said President Clinton 
			was very interested in the Roswell crash case. It was even known 
			that he had a book on Roswell in his private library. Some of his 
			top officials, however, claimed to be ignorant of Roswell. One such 
			official was Anthony Lake who was speechless when asked a 
			question about Roswell on the Diane Rehm Washington DC talk show.
			Diane Rehm was forced to go to commercial to bail him out.
 In a second appearance on the show Lake talked about 
			Roswell. He made the claim that he as National Security Advisor 
			to the president was "out of the loop."
 
				
				"Just one minute. I would like to 
				thank you for saving, if not my life at least some embarrassment 
				when I once did this (show). I think it was the second caller 
				who called in and asked me about Roswell Air Base, and 
				there was this stunned blank look on my face. I had no idea what 
				he was talking about. You said very generously "It’s time to 
				take a break."    
				Over the break you explained to me 
				that we might or might not be keeping an alien at Roswell Air 
				Force Base. I had never before been let into this conspiracy, 
				even as National Security advisor, so I didn’t know what to say. 
				I tried to prove a negative afterwards that there is no alien 
				being held there. What I should have said is that in fact the 
				alien does not look anything like the alien in Independence Day 
				– the movie. Anyway I want to thank you for stepping in." 
			Anyway, in response to the push by the 
			White House the USAF Headquarters released their report on the 
			Roswell crash in late 1995. It was titled "The Roswell Report: 
			Fact vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert." It concluded that 
			there was nothing to the alien spaceship theory.
 President Clinton was not amused. In a speech on November 30, 
			1995 he answered back to the USAF. It was a speech given in Belfast 
			Northern Ireland in front of 80,000 people, and I can assure you 
			after a couple weeks at the Reagan Library studying how presidential 
			speeches are put together, the reference to Roswell was intentional. 
			Nothing gets in a presidential speech that is not there for a 
			specific reason.
 
 There had been a letter writing competition in Northern Ireland. 
			School children wrote letters to the visiting U.S. president and the 
			two winning letter writers were on the stage with Clinton during his 
			speech. Neither of their letters, however, was read. Instead, 
			Clinton answered a letter from Ryan who was asking about 
			Roswell. This is what Clinton stated,
 
				
				"I got a letter from 13-year-old 
				Ryan from Belfast. Now, Ryan, if you're out in the crowd 
				tonight, here's the answer to your question. No, as far as I 
				know, an alien spacecraft did not crash in Roswell, New Mexico, 
				in 1947." 
			A couple days following this speech the 
			Air Force published a news story on the release of the USAF Roswell 
			report. They quoted the above Clinton statement stating that 
			he had therefore agreed with the USAF conclusion. Nothing could be 
			farther from the truth.
 As with any argument, it is only as strong as the facts one wishes 
			to leave out. Here is the very next line of what Clinton said 
			in the speech. It was a clear shot across the bow of the Air Force 
			stating that he wanted more answers.
 
				
				"And, Ryan, if the United States Air 
				Force did recover alien bodies, they didn't tell me about it, 
				either, and I want to know." 
			So in 1997, the USAF decided the screw 
			the president with yet another Roswell report, this one called "The 
			Roswell Report: Case Closed." Answering the president’s order 
			that he wanted to know about the bodies, the Air Force spent much of 
			the report dreaming up the bizarre notion that dummies dropped in 
			1953 explained why people in 1947 were reporting bodies in 
			connection with the Roswell crash.
 
			George W. Bush
 
 My final story is a key story dealing with the role in the inside 
			workings of the UFO story as it applies to Vice President Dick 
			Cheney. Cheney has held many key government positions, has been 
			tied into the military industrial complex for years, and
  has been 
			the focal point of many stories dealing with
			
			Area 51 and crashed saucers. 
 In April 2001, just after entering the White House I had a chance to 
			question Cheney on UFOs. He was on the Diane Rehm talk show 
			announcing that the U.S. had just recovered a plane from China 
			that the Chinese had shot down claiming to be a spy plane. Cheney 
			was in a victorious mood, until the questions started. I was first 
			up with the UFO question and all the rest of the questions 
			were on Halliburton. I don’t think he has appeared on an 
			open-line talk show since.
 
 The question I asked him was the key question of briefings. Because 
			of his background I wanted to know if he had been involved in 
			anything official dealing with the UFO subject, defined by 
			the question of whether anyone had every walked in his office and 
			given him a briefing. The Q&A went as follows,
 
				
				Question: Good morning. Mr.
				Cheney, I have a question. Since a statement made by 
				George Bush last July there has been a vicious rumor in the 
				UFO community that you have been "read-in" to the UFO program. 
				My question to you is, in any of your government jobs have you 
				ever been briefed on the subject of UFOs, and if you have 
				when was it and what were you told?
 Cheney: Well, if I had been briefed on that, I am sure it 
				would have been classified, and I couldn’t talk about it.
 
 Host question: Is there an investigation going on within 
				this administration Mr. Vice President with regards to UFOs?
 
 Cheney: Um… I have not come across the subject since I’ve 
				been back – I guess it’s January 20th. I’ve been in a 
				lot of meetings but I don’t recall one on UFOs.
 
			Cheney has always been considered 
			to be a smart man, but he slipped up on this answer. This is 
			probably because he was not expecting the question. 
 The government has always stated that all UFO material has 
			been released, and there is no cover-up. Cheney however 
			clearly stated that the subject was "probably classified.’ If it is 
			classified, there are documents. If there are documents the 
			government has not released them, and we have been lied to.
			There is a cover-up.
 
 I hope my presidential tales have added to your knowledge of what is 
			going on.
 
			  
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